@@LegalEagle Hey I found this wacky law in an old trivia game and I wanted to know if it still exists? In Seattle, Washington, the law apparently states that a goldfish must keep still in its bowl if it is going to ride a city bus. Was this a real thing?
Hey Legal Eagle, I'm a little confused about this Carlson interview with Gaetz. If Gaets publicly revealed that his dad was wearing a wire, wouldn't Gaetz be interfering with an investigation? Wouldn't that be illegal? I'd love for you to analyze this situation for those of us who aren't the experts.
Objection to your last video on Sydeny Powell at no point did she say anything about the ghost of Hugo Chevez . She talking about the history of diminon developed in 2002 and Hugo Chevez died in 2013 if Venezuela had meddled in the election. It would be a successer. No reasonable person would interpret what she said as the ghost of Hugo Chevez. In fact that problem was true context of defense no response person would believe she was talking about the ghost of Hugo Chevez
Hey LegalEagle! Unrelated, but Aaron Sorkins "Trial of the Chicago 7" is a film likely to whet your legal expertise, and I really think you'd have a lot of great insight to add to it
@Myka Ruest yeah it's mandatory... but latin is easier for italians because of the shared vocabulary...for example: mens rea=mente rea pendente lite= lite pendente mutatis mutandi=mutanto il mutabile malum in se=male in se malum prohibitum=male proibito I can go on but latin is quite easy for italian(it's the language of the ancient romans after all) i would say it's as distant from italian as beowolf is from modern english
Absolutely. Sounds like a spell in which on a failed saving throw causes the target to take 3d8 of necrotic damage, 1d8 added for higher level casting. Probably like a saving throw of 14 and then it's only like 1d8 of damage.
As a person who played D&D and now plays classic World of Darkness, I absolutely agree. I’m gonna figure out how to homebrew a spell (or equivalent) with that name.
OMG the "Attractive Nuisance" is the heart of one of my favorite stories from my childhood. I was about 3-4 years old living in a tiny town in Wyoming. I was outside playing one day, and I decided I really wanted a lollipop. Where's the best place to get one? The bank, of course! So teeny little me toddled through town with my faithful dog Shadow in tow, and somehow nobody stopped to question why a toddler was walking along the street with just a dog to protect her. I will grant that the town was/is small enough my dad describes it as being a mile wide, but you'd still think the sight would turn some heads. I did make it safely to the bank, and I got my lollipop. Only then did someone think to call the police. Meanwhile, my dad came out to check on me, found no sign of me, and began to panic, especially since I left my favorite tricycle behind. He hopped on his bike to search for me, and began scouring the streets for any sign of me or Shadow. He came home around the same time the police arrived with Shadow and I in one of their cars. They told my dad what happened, and that Shadow wouldn't let anyone near me until I said it was ok, and only then did we get in the car with the nice police. I wasn't in any trouble, since dad was just relieved I wasn't hurt, and Shadow was definitely spoiled for making sure I was safe.
Fauna I don't know how old u are? But nowadays ur dad would have been in big legal trouble! I'm glad shadow kept u safe! And while children need safe keeping I think we've gone way overboard and are hovering over kids too much nowadays!
The other day I was reading about how the author Naomi Wolf humiliated herself by writing an entire book based on a misunderstanding of what the legal term "death recorded" meant. It means "not executed" but she thought it meant the opposite.
Apparently "death recorded" came to mean "not executed" by way of "this crime requires me to pronounce the death penalty, so I will, but I will not carry it out as that is at my discretion as a judge - death is only recorded, but not carried out." The Judgement of Death Act of 1832 gave judges discretion to commute death penalties for all crimes except treason and murder - effectively (though importantly, not legally) abolishing the death penalty for most crimes.
Lol never heard that one. There was a movie (Double Jeopardy??) where a woman was convicted of murdering her husband. He then showed up alive, and the premise of the movie was that she could kill him, since she had already been convicted and she couldn't be tried again for the same crime. Lol, it wouldn't have been the same crime, obviously. Bad, and really stupid, misunderstanding of the law.
Okay, there _has_ to be a bar where lawyers hang out _somewhere_ that has drinks named after some of these terms. "Ugh, what a day. Give me an Unborn Widow." "And a Pendante Lite for me, thanks."
I worked as a personal assistant for a real estate agent that dealt with really high end clients and I assure you, the amount of flummery, tommyrot, balderdash and poppycock they wanted in their homes was unreal.
Meanwhile, in engineering: "So I built this supersonic passenger jet right, but the pilot couldn't properly see the runway during landing. So I made it so the tip of the plane can move down a bit to get out of the way. I call it a "droop snoot"."
Then you've got the gruesome world of programming, "A program can create children processes using an operating system, but if a process loses its parent it becomes an orphan. When the operating system detects an orphan it kills it."
@@suspecthalo Bonus points for using a spherical linear interpolation function, shortened to "slerp". And then there's my ever favourite "this.parent() = null; //Become Batman"
@@dingle2987 That's more on lawmakers. LegalEagle can correct me if I'm wrong here. But last I checked Pro-Bono (state-appointed) work is *significantly* underpaid. A laywer can't remember every line of every law in the book, so that means hiring at least one paralegal to look that information up (20+ an hour job, and they can only do so much research in a day, hence, more then one of them). Experts to dispute the Prosecution's evidence or methodology? That's not even remotely free. So what you end up getting are the fresh-out-of-law-school lawyers taking on the pro-bono cases so the senior guys can go keep the lights on. Poverty doesn't get you into jail so much as being wealthy lets you get out of it. A goor part of why you see rich people avoiding jail is prosecutors deciding not to charge people in the first place...
On the unborn widow thing, the United States recently stopped paying its last civil war pension because the woman who married an elderly civil war veteran when he was in his 70s and she was 19 finally passed away. I think she was getting $9 a month.
Also, men often remain virile until death. Hugh Heffner could have sired new children right up to the death bed. And these rules ought to be gender-neutral.
I could definitely see why the law about “unborn widows” is a thing. It’s rare, but there’s plenty of examples through history of people marrying people way younger than they are. Imagine some 20 year old signs a contract and at 70 marries a 50 year old. That’d be odd, but not even taboo socially, so the law needs to account for that being a possibility.
Those all also regard family relations as legalities, an 80-year-old likely won't have biological children but something like adoption and other cases can make someone new their child in the eyes of the law. Most of those also are mostly about the law requiring specificity in say wills so their legal meanings cannot change through future circumstances. Legal documents usually ought to be water tight, that requiring taking into account all possibilities regardless how improbable.
@@naturegirl1999 Suppose you are making your will and decide to leave some money to your six-year-old nephew. If you don't die for another twenty years, it's very possible that your now adult nephew may be married and have kids.
At least half of these sound like they could be sexual euphemisms used by middle-school students... "So, did you have any jiggery-pokery with John Doe today?" "No, but I gave him a frolic-and-detour in the bathroom. He's such an attractive nuisance!" "Yeah, why would anyone want to lose their champerty to *him?"* "I dunno, Jane Doe said he has a pendente lite..."
Fertile octogenarian and the like are "legal fictions" meant to cover every possibility in property and inheritance, no matter how unlikely. And I know those are two areas of law which get real messy real fast. It would be interesting to see a video on the concept of legal fictions.
@Lily Marinovic I think they mean fictitious in the sense that at the moment of signing, it is not currently a reality. Like you sign the will not having any offspring, but the law allows for the currently fictitious idea that you could sire some.
Objection: Champerty actually sounds like an alternative to some fancy tea one might have at a high end restaurant; “Oh, apologies, we are actually all out of that tea, but we do have a lovely Champer Tea, if that would be alright?”
@@ENTERtheCREATOR ..... It involves hot champagne... If it is anything like hot wine, its probably not going to be all that good(the assumption being you use champagne instead of water, and not just as an ad in like cream or milk)
This reminded me of an old episode from Garfield and Friends, where Roy finds an outdated law book filled with ridiculous laws, such as no eating peanutbutter sandwiches on a specific day, requiring a license to use a broom and dustpan, etc.
This reminds me of a youtuber in London who broke ridiculous laws, some in front of police officers. Handling a fish suspiciously, and wearing an "outrageous double ruff" were probably the silliest. Gambling in library was also fun.
Devin is too good at that British aristocrat accent Like, either he practiced a lot, OR he does this frequently on his own time Both scenarios are hilarious
"Suggestion of death" actually makes the most sense. Like if somebody goes missing, but the investigation finds enough evidence to suggest that they're dead.
We have reasonable evidence to presume someone's death, but no solid proof that they did in fact die. Therefore, we can make a suggestion of death without claiming that they are actually dead.
I already knew a few from day-to-day legal documents that I had no time to run by the lawyers. Which is a fairly common thing once you realize that a supermarket receipt is actually a legal document and buying a loaf of bread is a contract.
The "announcing Lady Champerty" bit had me in stiches. Pop culture references were excellent from start to finish. Jiggery-pokery still just sounds... wrong somehow, even if it is only essentially a fancy term for legal malarkey.
In one of the Harry Potter books Harry uses "Jiggery Pokery" as a fake spell when trying to scare his cousin Dudley. I'm a little surprised it wasn't mentioned considering the other Harry Potter references.
The amount of Latin and Greek in most professions is huge. The older the profession, the more Latin/Greek you find. Law and medicine have been around since classical times and therefore have the most Greek and Latin of the professions while computing and engineering tend to have a lot less Latin and a lot more Monty Python.
I have no idea what you're talking about regarding computing and engineering. [*pushes several thousand lines of Python code as well as ancient Perl scripts called "reaver" and "gibbs-slap" just off-camera*]
A good argument to not translate things to modern languages is also that Latin is no longer used so the meaning of words won't change. While some English words for example could have a tiny shift in meaning because of how they are used and that has consequences if it's used to describe law things because it could change the interpretation of laws.
“Mutatis mutandis” is an expression I’ve seen seldomly in math books. In context, it’s usually saying a proof of a statement can be minimally altered to prove a different (but similar) statement.
I used the term “quiet enjoyment” to describe the violation of my rental agreement with a former landlord. Dude wouldn’t stop harassing me with texts and pictures of how he wanted to house cleaned and even threatened to “push me out” if I didn’t prep my room to be shown to future tenants according to his standards. The small claims court came to see it my way on the basis that he never sent me the required letter describing what happened to my security deposit after I moved out.
I remember Frolic and Detour coming up in a class at trade school, since accidents on your way to work and or back home from work are considered workplace accidents in Germany. If I make a stop at a store on my way home and slip and break an arm inside the store, that would not be a work accident. But I don't remember what happens when I leave the store, continue on my way home, and then have a road accident.
I'm happy you can do these fun videos again. I will always appreciate your walking us through the legal garbage storm that was 2020 (and some of 2021), but it's nice that you can relax again.
There's a legal phrased which I found somewhat amusing when I heard it, and yet I also appreciated it just because it sounds so discreet. The term came up in a divorce case, where the husband sued the wife for "constructive abandonment".
"It's a technical term" he said. Little did he know, it would actually become a technical, legal term in the future. Or, in the past, since he said it in the far future when the Earth was about to be destroyed. Hmm...maybe in 2022 we will see Timey Wimey become a legal term too.
"I've not seen Lady Champerty of the North Hampstead Sherford upon Tim's Champerty!" I can't! I can't! I need a sidebar or recess or something after this! 😂😂😂
The reason they use Latin is to avoid words being misinterpreted Latin is a fairly fixed language. When it is a two word legal term with and in the middle say assault and battery it comes from the Norman invasion one one word is old English and the other French-Norman again so whether you spoke English or French there was no debating the charge.
One of my favorites is "actual first lien," which became the default term used in Arizona after a court used it in an opinion without explaining how it differed from a first lien.
I'm torn. On the one hand, I would love to support Devin in that small and easy way by jumping onto CuriousityStream and Nebula. Stimulus money gotta stimulate, right? On the other hand, Devin's ads are one of the best parts of his videos (because lawyers selling out to sponsors is so very much on brand as to be a feature rather than a bug) and I would feel their absence over there. :)
I've always liked "expressio unius est exclusio alterius" It sounds like a Harry Potter spell but means "the expression of one is to the exclusion of all others" and is why contracts with lists have the line "but not limited to" and is also why we have the 9th amendment in the Bill of Rights!
If I just say "including", that doesn't specify whether the subsequently listed items are the only things included, or just examples of what could be included. Expressio unius est exclusio alterius clarifies that anything not listed is presumed to be excluded, unless a statement like "not limited to" is made. Language is fascinating...
@@Twistedcrescendo I'd say more like a black rare: "Destroy target creature. At the beginning of your next upkeep, its owner returns target creature card from their graveyard with lesser or equal converted mana cost to the battlefield under their control." You know, because it's suggesting death but ultimately not making the death permanent.
Suggestion of Death 3BlackBlackBlack Sorcery Choose 2: - Each opponent sacrifices a creature, then you sacrifice a number of creatures equal to the total number of creatures sacrificed this way. - Sacrifice a number of creatures equal to the number of opponents you control and draw that many cards. - Choose a player; discard X cards and destroy X creatures that player controls, where X is the number of creatures Target player controls. - Choose any number of players; sacrifice X creatures, then those players discard cards equal to the number creatures sacrificed this way, at random, divided as you choose.
"Even though Aunt Bertha is 100 years old, the law presumes that she could have more children. " I'm curious: why doesn't the law presume she might adopt instead of using her fertility as the argument against perpetuity?
"If you have a bucket of candy or a PS5 sitting on a float in your swimming pool" I'm dying from that sentence. Also that's going to lure more that just minors. That pool might fill up fast, and about at the same rate of basements emptying.
Every time I hear you give these inside things about law and law school, it sounds more and more like medical school. I swear we both just say shit in Latin and hope nobody calls us on it lol.
POINT OF LAW! The baker being judged at 6:25 (on what appears to be a celebrity special of The Great British Bake Off) is Georgia "Toff" Toffolo, a star of the UK reality TV series "Made in Chelsea" (imagine Jersey Shore meets Downton Abbey), who studied Law before going into television
I've also seen mutatis mutandis used in mathematics, where definitions and theorems may be applied to slightly different but similar objects while the details remain largely the same. It can save a lot of time when the changes are mostly just trivial.
@@afropoppette As Interpreters we need to be aware of a variety of things. This video explaining terms help insure interpretation is done correctly. (If you want to ask more questions you can email me at thomasinterpreting@gmail.com .)
Wisdom save, if fail, target thinks they're dead, lays down for 1 minute or on successful charisma check, at which point they convince themselves they aren't.
As much as I've appreciated all the dedicated and extensive looks at serious issues in todays world this last year or so, it's nice to have a video like this again. Stay well out there.
Mutatis mutandis, what a wonderful phrase! Mutandis mutandis, ain't no passing phase! It means "To change, specifically the things that need to be changed"! It's our legal term, not a philosophy! Mutandis mutandis! I'll leave now
Not sure if it exists in the USA, but here in Canada we have a legal term of "The Casual Fornicator." It's used in family law to determine parental rights and refers to an individual who has not demonstrated any interest in whether he did cause a pregnancy or demonstrate even the minimum responsibility to the child. As such, "Casual Fornicators" are not entitled to all the same rights as other biological fathers.
My father is an attorney. The only time I actually needed to use his services is when a landlord made "quiet enjoyment" of my apartment impossible, by renovating the apartment above me, very loudly, for months and months (I worked at home).
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@@Maxawa0851 it's Lorem Ipsum. It is not 100% Latin and it's not meant to make 100% sense. It is used as dummy text for designers drafting websites, news letters and articles. That's the joke, by the way.
I went down a Google rabbit hole because I swore ‘Jiggery Pokery’ wasn’t racist and didn’t watch the next 30 seconds of the video where he says as much
The youngest female to give birth was confirmed to be just five years, seven months, and twenty one days old after she went through precocious puberty. She had a five pound eight ounce baby boy through a caesarean section due to her pelvis being too small, obviously, for the baby's head to pass.
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There are a lot of ridiculous terms to cover, so there will probably be a part 2 to this video.
@@LegalEagle Hey I found this wacky law in an old trivia game and I wanted to know if it still exists? In Seattle, Washington, the law apparently states that a goldfish must keep still in its bowl if it is going to ride a city bus. Was this a real thing?
Hey Legal Eagle, I'm a little confused about this Carlson interview with Gaetz. If Gaets publicly revealed that his dad was wearing a wire, wouldn't Gaetz be interfering with an investigation? Wouldn't that be illegal?
I'd love for you to analyze this situation for those of us who aren't the experts.
Objection to your last video on Sydeny Powell at no point did she say anything about the ghost of Hugo Chevez . She talking about the history of diminon developed in 2002 and Hugo Chevez died in 2013 if Venezuela had meddled in the election.
It would be a successer.
No reasonable person would interpret what she said as the ghost of Hugo Chevez. In fact that problem was true context of defense no response person would believe she was talking about the ghost of Hugo Chevez
Hey LegalEagle! Unrelated, but Aaron Sorkins "Trial of the Chicago 7" is a film likely to whet your legal expertise, and I really think you'd have a lot of great insight to add to it
As an italian i had to study latin my entire high school so i can effortlessly talk like a pretentious lawyer...good to know
Same here only for working in the medical field. So many medical words are just Latin with a little Greek here and there
@Myka Ruest yeah it's mandatory... but latin is easier for italians because of the shared vocabulary...for example:
mens rea=mente rea
pendente lite= lite pendente
mutatis mutandi=mutanto il mutabile
malum in se=male in se
malum prohibitum=male proibito
I can go on but latin is quite easy for italian(it's the language of the ancient romans after all) i would say it's as distant from italian as beowolf is from modern english
@@mattethebest1 I sardi che parlano praticamente un dialetto latino essere tipo:
Caeciliaes est in horto
@@ad-skyobsidion4267 hehe we had to traslate whole pages, i hated it, but now i can spot a bullshitting lawyer so that's a plus...
As a DND dungeon master, suggestion of death absolutely sounds like a DND spell.
Sounds like an overpowered third party Bard spell, imo.
Sounds like the lower level version of power word kill.
Absolutely. Sounds like a spell in which on a failed saving throw causes the target to take 3d8 of necrotic damage, 1d8 added for higher level casting. Probably like a saving throw of 14 and then it's only like 1d8 of damage.
@@bennettpalmer1741 I was thinking Finger of Death, but yeah, Power Word: Kill is a _much_ better comparison.
As a person who played D&D and now plays classic World of Darkness, I absolutely agree. I’m gonna figure out how to homebrew a spell (or equivalent) with that name.
"Pedente Lite: Taste the Lawyer"
It has been a LONG quarantine...
I think Predente Lite is what all those guys got charged with on To Catch a Predator.
To be fair, LegalEagle has always looked tasty. 😋
Taste the lawyer
@@Ajehy well there's the inevitable horny on this channel. Havent seen that here yet
OMG the "Attractive Nuisance" is the heart of one of my favorite stories from my childhood. I was about 3-4 years old living in a tiny town in Wyoming. I was outside playing one day, and I decided I really wanted a lollipop. Where's the best place to get one? The bank, of course! So teeny little me toddled through town with my faithful dog Shadow in tow, and somehow nobody stopped to question why a toddler was walking along the street with just a dog to protect her. I will grant that the town was/is small enough my dad describes it as being a mile wide, but you'd still think the sight would turn some heads.
I did make it safely to the bank, and I got my lollipop. Only then did someone think to call the police. Meanwhile, my dad came out to check on me, found no sign of me, and began to panic, especially since I left my favorite tricycle behind. He hopped on his bike to search for me, and began scouring the streets for any sign of me or Shadow. He came home around the same time the police arrived with Shadow and I in one of their cars. They told my dad what happened, and that Shadow wouldn't let anyone near me until I said it was ok, and only then did we get in the car with the nice police. I wasn't in any trouble, since dad was just relieved I wasn't hurt, and Shadow was definitely spoiled for making sure I was safe.
Fauna I don't know how old u are? But nowadays ur dad would have been in big legal trouble! I'm glad shadow kept u safe! And while children need safe keeping I think we've gone way overboard and are hovering over kids too much nowadays!
Good dog, Shadow!
This is so cute!!!
The other day I was reading about how the author Naomi Wolf humiliated herself by writing an entire book based on a misunderstanding of what the legal term "death recorded" meant. It means "not executed" but she thought it meant the opposite.
That was delicious.
I regret confusing her with Naomis Klein, Campbell, and Harris for the last 20 yars.
Hi JJ.
Apparently "death recorded" came to mean "not executed" by way of "this crime requires me to pronounce the death penalty, so I will, but I will not carry it out as that is at my discretion as a judge - death is only recorded, but not carried out." The Judgement of Death Act of 1832 gave judges discretion to commute death penalties for all crimes except treason and murder - effectively (though importantly, not legally) abolishing the death penalty for most crimes.
Lol never heard that one. There was a movie (Double Jeopardy??) where a woman was convicted of murdering her husband. He then showed up alive, and the premise of the movie was that she could kill him, since she had already been convicted and she couldn't be tried again for the same crime. Lol, it wouldn't have been the same crime, obviously. Bad, and really stupid, misunderstanding of the law.
Okay, there _has_ to be a bar where lawyers hang out _somewhere_ that has drinks named after some of these terms.
"Ugh, what a day. Give me an Unborn Widow." "And a Pendante Lite for me, thanks."
Where you can tell the non-lawyers who pronounce it "light" ;-)
LegalEagle How to Drink Collab.
You know what the name of that drinking establishment would be?...."The Bar"...of course, it's a members-only club
Give me a Cheers-style sitcom set at that bar please it’s all I ask.
@@Snowshowslow And they don’t understand why it isn’t a diet beverage.
"Something people on HGTV would complain about not having in their home" 10/10
I worked as a personal assistant for a real estate agent that dealt with really high end clients and I assure you, the amount of flummery, tommyrot, balderdash and poppycock they wanted in their homes was unreal.
@@twothreebravo thank you for this. My wife won’t believe me when I say people on house hunters are crazy pants.
Meanwhile, in engineering:
"So I built this supersonic passenger jet right, but the pilot couldn't properly see the runway during landing. So I made it so the tip of the plane can move down a bit to get out of the way.
I call it a "droop snoot"."
"Droop Snoot?"
Then you've got the gruesome world of programming, "A program can create children processes using an operating system, but if a process loses its parent it becomes an orphan. When the operating system detects an orphan it kills it."
@@sandyholmerin2925 The snoot droops.
@@suspecthalo Bonus points for using a spherical linear interpolation function, shortened to "slerp". And then there's my ever favourite "this.parent() = null; //Become Batman"
@@suspecthalo This should not have been as funny as it was.
I died laughing at "I went to law school for this"
It's almost like the slightest hint of regret....
Your honor, may i suggest that DFX2KX is dead?
Lawyers have regret? I wouldn’t believe that with all the innocent people in prison due to poverty and inability to pay for proper representation.
@@dingle2987 That's more on lawmakers. LegalEagle can correct me if I'm wrong here. But last I checked Pro-Bono (state-appointed) work is *significantly* underpaid.
A laywer can't remember every line of every law in the book, so that means hiring at least one paralegal to look that information up (20+ an hour job, and they can only do so much research in a day, hence, more then one of them). Experts to dispute the Prosecution's evidence or methodology? That's not even remotely free.
So what you end up getting are the fresh-out-of-law-school lawyers taking on the pro-bono cases so the senior guys can go keep the lights on.
Poverty doesn't get you into jail so much as being wealthy lets you get out of it. A goor part of why you see rich people avoiding jail is prosecutors deciding not to charge people in the first place...
@@dingle2987 that's like saying you don't believe there's any good person because some guy was poor and no one gave him money
@@dingle2987 because they’re poor they’re innocent?
The way he voices a character 'Lady Champerty' makes me want to have a DnD session with him
I was honestly thinking this too
I want that as a ring tone
Me too! 😆
Character voicing has nothing to do with being good at D&D you poser
@@topogigio7031 no real such thing as being "Good at dnd"
On the unborn widow thing, the United States recently stopped paying its last civil war pension because the woman who married an elderly civil war veteran when he was in his 70s and she was 19 finally passed away. I think she was getting $9 a month.
What a waste of tax dollars!/joke
BRO that British Champerty impression...
That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on this channel. Outrageous.
I love it. 🤣🤣🤣
THIS 😂🤣😂
Then came the Jiggery Pokery bit ;)
"And all her children." Well biologically may not be able to happen, there's always adoption. That would be a new child
Also, men often remain virile until death. Hugh Heffner could have sired new children right up to the death bed. And these rules ought to be gender-neutral.
I guess these days frozen eggs and a surrogate mother might make it possible?
@@nullplan01 I knew a woman who had a baby from her dead husband's sperm. Heck, with modern technology, a woman could give birth to your own twin.
@@nullplan01 I wouldn't put it past Hef to be virile from beyond the grave
@@benjaminmack7567 And eventually, cloning.
I could definitely see why the law about “unborn widows” is a thing.
It’s rare, but there’s plenty of examples through history of people marrying people way younger than they are.
Imagine some 20 year old signs a contract and at 70 marries a 50 year old.
That’d be odd, but not even taboo socially, so the law needs to account for that being a possibility.
So why is precocious toddler a thing? Why would the law need to assume fertility at birth?
@@naturegirl1999 my guess is in terms of rape, the youngest a person has had a live child 5 years and 7 months
Those all also regard family relations as legalities, an 80-year-old likely won't have biological children but something like adoption and other cases can make someone new their child in the eyes of the law.
Most of those also are mostly about the law requiring specificity in say wills so their legal meanings cannot change through future circumstances.
Legal documents usually ought to be water tight, that requiring taking into account all possibilities regardless how improbable.
@@naturegirl1999 Suppose you are making your will and decide to leave some money to your six-year-old nephew. If you don't die for another twenty years, it's very possible that your now adult nephew may be married and have kids.
00:50 Pendente Lite
01:40 Champerty
03:05 Mutatis Mutandis
03:56 Suggestion of Death
05:00 Attractive Nuisance
06:06 Heartbalm Tort
07:16 Frolic and Detour
08:41 Quiet Enjoyment
09:26 Fertile Octegenarian
10:47 Unborn Widow
12:03 Precocious Toddler
12:48 Jiggery Pokery
thank you!!
At least half of these sound like they could be sexual euphemisms used by middle-school students...
"So, did you have any jiggery-pokery with John Doe today?"
"No, but I gave him a frolic-and-detour in the bathroom. He's such an attractive nuisance!"
"Yeah, why would anyone want to lose their champerty to *him?"*
"I dunno, Jane Doe said he has a pendente lite..."
You are in rare, rare form. Space ghost, D&D first edition, Oregon Trail all in one video? Sir, you just transmogrified my adolescence. :D
What about "Head's Up, Seven Up"!? SO many rainy days playing that game 'cause we couldn't go outside for recess.
And "Chasing Amy"! The least funny of all the "Jay & Silent Bob" movies but I'll take it.
very nice C&H reference
Seriously! Can’t think of the last time I heard a good Space Ghost reference...especially one not about Brak (don’t get me wrong, Brak is great)
Haven't you heard, nerds rule the world now ;)
“As a graduate of law school and Hogwarts.” 😂🔥👏🏼
But does Hogwarts have a law school?
might be an elective class for your newts
So I'm thinking Gryffindor. Ravenclaw maybe? Something legal eagley
@@Cutie_Amor is he a newt tho?
He should review the court scenes from Harry Potter.
"Are you suggesting he died?"
"He could've gotten better."
Evidence to be presented later, if he didn't survive.
"but she is a witch, though!"
"A WIIIIITCH!!"
"BUUUUURRRRN!!"
Fertile octogenarian and the like are "legal fictions" meant to cover every possibility in property and inheritance, no matter how unlikely. And I know those are two areas of law which get real messy real fast. It would be interesting to see a video on the concept of legal fictions.
There are certainly octogenarians who.have fathered children and ladies in their 60s who have mothered them. While unusual it is not fictitious.
Doesn't adoption count the same for inheritance? So surely the 100 yr old could adopt a 17 yr old or something?
@Lily Marinovic I think they mean fictitious in the sense that at the moment of signing, it is not currently a reality. Like you sign the will not having any offspring, but the law allows for the currently fictitious idea that you could sire some.
"the unborn widow is, in fact, related to the fertile octegenaian."
nice to see mixed families these days
18 year old mixed couple in 2010 = Interracial marriage
18 year old mixed couple in 2020 = Zoomer and their cousin
Objection: Champerty actually sounds like an alternative to some fancy tea one might have at a high end restaurant; “Oh, apologies, we are actually all out of that tea, but we do have a lovely Champer Tea, if that would be alright?”
I guess it would be tea with champagne mixed into it?
@@jaschabull2365 that...sounds kinda tasty actually, not gonna lie.
@@ENTERtheCREATOR ..... It involves hot champagne... If it is anything like hot wine, its probably not going to be all that good(the assumption being you use champagne instead of water, and not just as an ad in like cream or milk)
@@newtonianlaw3249 unless it’s iced. You know, the best way to drink tea.
@@ENTERtheCREATOR Fair point
This reminded me of an old episode from Garfield and Friends, where Roy finds an outdated law book filled with ridiculous laws, such as no eating peanutbutter sandwiches on a specific day, requiring a license to use a broom and dustpan, etc.
I don't much see the comparison, it's not really super weird laws that often gets discussed, but I still like your reference
Wow, now that’s a blast from the past
Sounds like its is verboten to give voters food and drinks on the streets in Georgia.
Maybe it is allowed to give them some Pot or a joint?
Reminds me of an old episode of QI, to be honest. I was missing the *moron in a hurry,* but maybe that doesn't exist in US law.
This reminds me of a youtuber in London who broke ridiculous laws, some in front of police officers. Handling a fish suspiciously, and wearing an "outrageous double ruff" were probably the silliest. Gambling in library was also fun.
“Eminent domain” tends to make things disappear. I’d call that magic
Better than "civil asset forfeiture"
Tell me why I thought this said "Eminem domain" at first. Lmao.
@@dynamicworlds1 depends on the size of the freeway
@@bobcollins8019 LOL
"Suggestion of death" is actually what it's called when your "Power Word: Kill" spell fails in 5e.
The best English law concept has to be the "moron in a hurry" test.
Pedente Lite: Taste the Lawyer
Me: *takes a sip. Hmmmm.... taste like overly verbose language and law school debt. It's not bad.
It goes good with Torgos from Futurama.
@@escutus Or Popplers.
Me: that sounds like, at minimum, grossly inappropriate professional misconduct to put it very politely (if you know what I mean)
Maybe it’s like the Dutch liqueur “Advocaat”?
How does it taste? Well actually, it depends. Because it *always* depends.
Champerty impression made me laugh hard enough to scare my neighbour.
Do not scare your neighbor, that may be illegal. As a layman, im not sure how, but ill bet it is.
I caused my elderly dog to jump off the settee, so am far more guilty.
I was wondering if it was even him or if he dubbed it because it's effin wild!
Sounds like you may have interfered with your neighbor's quiet enjoyment of their property. Better call a lawyer!
IT WAS SO GOOD! I am so impressed with him right now!
After all those jokes, I'm now more convinced that Legal Eagle plays D&D.
Probably challenges his DM's decisions constantly...
He probably plays a ranger with an eagle animal companion.
@@Melesniannon Named “Legal”
"Stop being a rules lawyer!"
"I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR THIS!"
I agree!
_"is it a spell or event from Dungeons and Dragons?"_
WELL NOW IT IS
Devin is too good at that British aristocrat accent
Like, either he practiced a lot, OR he does this frequently on his own time
Both scenarios are hilarious
I thought it sounded like Pops from The Regular Show.
Um, it was awful lol. I've never heard anyone talk like that
@@andrewbloom7694 And he can't pronounce Berkshire either.
He should talk like that more
Nearly as 'goo as Dick Van Dyke's 'Cockernee' accent in Mary Poppins.
Nearly!
"Suggestion of death" actually makes the most sense. Like if somebody goes missing, but the investigation finds enough evidence to suggest that they're dead.
We have reasonable evidence to presume someone's death, but no solid proof that they did in fact die. Therefore, we can make a suggestion of death without claiming that they are actually dead.
I had to rewind to see you do that Champerty/Bridgerton voice. I couldn't believe you actually did that.
As a British, I was triggered
It was absolutely hilarious
ME TOO lol
Devin please don't ever try to do a British accent again. That was simultaneously disturbing, hilarious and so, so wrong. 😂
@@Mute_Nostril_Agony It was Irish so you are fine.
I’m a musician... weird obscure old Italian, French, and German words come at you all day long... mostly on sheet music. I feel you
Such as a crotchet (quarter note) not having a hook despite literally meaning “hook”? The quaver (eighth note) has a hook though...
As a teen, I used to chuckle at the term "f-hole" and the idea that, every once in a while, I broke my G-string.
music term that sounds offensive: ritard. it means to "slow down"...
I'm glad I don't believe in hell, because that's where I'd go
Now, this will be played moderato cantabile...
@@roberto8650 But can you finger A minor on the G string?
I already knew a few from day-to-day legal documents that I had no time to run by the lawyers. Which is a fairly common thing once you realize that a supermarket receipt is actually a legal document and buying a loaf of bread is a contract.
The "announcing Lady Champerty" bit had me in stiches. Pop culture references were excellent from start to finish. Jiggery-pokery still just sounds... wrong somehow, even if it is only essentially a fancy term for legal malarkey.
"I went to law school for this" is now the name of my made up punk band. We will have such hits as subpoena ad testificandum, and Tree Law.
Your next album should be called Philibuster, with the follow up to Tree law, the hit single Bird Law.
In one of the Harry Potter books Harry uses "Jiggery Pokery" as a fake spell when trying to scare his cousin Dudley. I'm a little surprised it wasn't mentioned considering the other Harry Potter references.
Imagine if that was a real spell that he just hadn't learned yet.
The amount of Latin and Greek in most professions is huge. The older the profession, the more Latin/Greek you find. Law and medicine have been around since classical times and therefore have the most Greek and Latin of the professions while computing and engineering tend to have a lot less Latin and a lot more Monty Python.
I have no idea what you're talking about regarding computing and engineering. [*pushes several thousand lines of Python code as well as ancient Perl scripts called "reaver" and "gibbs-slap" just off-camera*]
And that's why software engineering is infinitely more understandable than law
Oh no, so many missed jokes about the “oldest profession” not having any Latin terminology at all 😂
@@mmcat2863 it does though, the name of the profession is a Latin name...
A good argument to not translate things to modern languages is also that Latin is no longer used so the meaning of words won't change. While some English words for example could have a tiny shift in meaning because of how they are used and that has consequences if it's used to describe law things because it could change the interpretation of laws.
"Free cake in the office break room when you're on a diet" is not an 'attractive nuisance', it's Alanis-Morissette-Irony :)
“Mutatis mutandis” is an expression I’ve seen seldomly in math books. In context, it’s usually saying a proof of a statement can be minimally altered to prove a different (but similar) statement.
This is the content we get when people actually learn new words.
There are SO MANY excellent prospective band names in this video.
Those "Does it mean's." They just... killed me.
I used the term “quiet enjoyment” to describe the violation of my rental agreement with a former landlord. Dude wouldn’t stop harassing me with texts and pictures of how he wanted to house cleaned and even threatened to “push me out” if I didn’t prep my room to be shown to future tenants according to his standards. The small claims court came to see it my way on the basis that he never sent me the required letter describing what happened to my security deposit after I moved out.
Holy shit how can a man with such a smooth voice produce THAT 'British accent'?
I honestly wasn't sure whether to be impressed or terrified
@@BambiTrout Both is good.
Simple. By not using any American accent features.
As someone who sells property insurance, I was all like "hey, attractive nuisance, I know what that is!" I have no life 😅
But you DO know what a neighbor’s pool is. Or the pool on the lot that you have to sell.
I remember Frolic and Detour coming up in a class at trade school, since accidents on your way to work and or back home from work are considered workplace accidents in Germany.
If I make a stop at a store on my way home and slip and break an arm inside the store, that would not be a work accident. But I don't remember what happens when I leave the store, continue on my way home, and then have a road accident.
I'm happy you can do these fun videos again. I will always appreciate your walking us through the legal garbage storm that was 2020 (and some of 2021), but it's nice that you can relax again.
Ohhh you sweet summer child, love from ‘23!
Pendente lite does sound like a lawyer beer, served at a lawyer bar, while waiting for the jury to come back.
But overindulge and you might be... _disbarred._
@@turkeyallalong9850 "Should you infringe on the quiet enjoyment, you might be... disbarred."
There I fixed it.
What else do you think happens in a judge's chambers?
@@tylerpeterson4726 Judicial Review?...Examination of the Body of Law?
That's lit-e
There's a legal phrased which I found somewhat amusing when I heard it, and yet I also appreciated it just because it sounds so discreet. The term came up in a divorce case, where the husband sued the wife for "constructive abandonment".
Legal Eagle: talking about a real legal term
Hallmark Christmas writers: What a great new movie!
Jiggery Pokery: A class the Ninth Doctor came first in.
@DickEnchilada Unfortunately not.
"It's a technical term" he said. Little did he know, it would actually become a technical, legal term in the future. Or, in the past, since he said it in the far future when the Earth was about to be destroyed. Hmm...maybe in 2022 we will see Timey Wimey become a legal term too.
"I've not seen Lady Champerty of the North Hampstead Sherford upon Tim's Champerty!" I can't! I can't! I need a sidebar or recess or something after this! 😂😂😂
You weren't kidding. They do sound horribly made up so far. I wouldn't believe they were words!
I have some news for you. All words were made up
The reason they use Latin is to avoid words being misinterpreted Latin is a fairly fixed language. When it is a two word legal term with and in the middle say assault and battery it comes from the Norman invasion one one word is old English and the other French-Norman again so whether you spoke English or French there was no debating the charge.
Your “As a graduate from both Hogwarts and Law school” made me wonder which house you belong. You look very Ravenclaw to me.
You can't spell "Ravenclaw" without "law", so probably yes.
One of my favorites is "actual first lien," which became the default term used in Arizona after a court used it in an opinion without explaining how it differed from a first lien.
Love my secret nerd time watching the legal eagle videos!
"Mutatis Mutandis" the legal scientific name for people with the X-gene who will become mutants and X-men.
This does make me think back to his Legal Meme Review:
"Name me books that made you cry!"
"Introduction to Property Law"
I'm torn. On the one hand, I would love to support Devin in that small and easy way by jumping onto CuriousityStream and Nebula. Stimulus money gotta stimulate, right?
On the other hand, Devin's ads are one of the best parts of his videos (because lawyers selling out to sponsors is so very much on brand as to be a feature rather than a bug) and I would feel their absence over there. :)
I've always liked "expressio unius est exclusio alterius" It sounds like a Harry Potter spell but means "the expression of one is to the exclusion of all others" and is why contracts with lists have the line "but not limited to" and is also why we have the 9th amendment in the Bill of Rights!
If I just say "including", that doesn't specify whether the subsequently listed items are the only things included, or just examples of what could be included. Expressio unius est exclusio alterius clarifies that anything not listed is presumed to be excluded, unless a statement like "not limited to" is made.
Language is fascinating...
Ok, we need a whole episode on archaic legal stuff done in the Bridgerton voice.
Trial by ordeal?
"We're that already" big flex
It made me laugh :D Though I also thought of some lawyers who are clearly not xD
I remember someone who got a Lhasa Apso dog. Her father-in-law kept calling it “the ipso facto”.
“The ipso facto needs to go for a walk.”
THAT POMPOUS BRITISH VOICE WAS ABSOLUTELY NUTS
I need *more*
These days, I choose to believe an Unborn Widow is a romance novel written by Matt Gaetz.
Once again I‘m here and not studying for my law exams. I feel like I don’t have my priorities straight. 😂
Your priorities seem fine to me...
This is studying for your law exams. Welcome to your new reality.
@@---nu4ed I'm pretty sure you can draw some inspiration from this one.
100% the phrase “suggestion of death” is going to become a magic the gathering card
Black uncommon, -X/-X until end of turn?
@@Twistedcrescendo I'd say more like a black rare: "Destroy target creature. At the beginning of your next upkeep, its owner returns target creature card from their graveyard with lesser or equal converted mana cost to the battlefield under their control."
You know, because it's suggesting death but ultimately not making the death permanent.
Return target creature to its owner's hand however treat it as if it went to the graveyard instead.
Suggestion of Death 3BlackBlackBlack Sorcery
Choose 2:
- Each opponent sacrifices a creature, then you sacrifice a number of creatures equal to the total number of creatures sacrificed this way.
- Sacrifice a number of creatures equal to the number of opponents you control and draw that many cards.
- Choose a player; discard X cards and destroy X creatures that player controls, where X is the number of creatures Target player controls.
- Choose any number of players; sacrifice X creatures, then those players discard cards equal to the number creatures sacrificed this way, at random, divided as you choose.
@@Ryan-ho4hf I don't think the rules of the game support something like that...
"Even though Aunt Bertha is 100 years old, the law presumes that she could have more children. "
I'm curious: why doesn't the law presume she might adopt instead of using her fertility as the argument against perpetuity?
Yeah that makes a lot more sense
3:02 "It's a double-edged sword"
*shows a scimitar, a single-edges sword*
"If you have a bucket of candy or a PS5 sitting on a float in your swimming pool" I'm dying from that sentence. Also that's going to lure more that just minors. That pool might fill up fast, and about at the same rate of basements emptying.
Every time I hear you give these inside things about law and law school, it sounds more and more like medical school. I swear we both just say shit in Latin and hope nobody calls us on it lol.
Unexpected Zorak reference. What a legend.
BAD BUG BAD BUG
*MR EAGLE SIR I ALMOST SPIT OUT MY DRINK AT THE BRIDGERTON BIT* P L E A S E I'M WHEEZING
9:51 Nothing good ever follows the phrase “This usually involves Property Law.”
POINT OF LAW! The baker being judged at 6:25 (on what appears to be a celebrity special of The Great British Bake Off) is Georgia "Toff" Toffolo, a star of the UK reality TV series "Made in Chelsea" (imagine Jersey Shore meets Downton Abbey), who studied Law before going into television
Thank you. I've been looking all over for that reference. Sad LegalEagle doesn't want to credit her :(
I too also like to cast black magic when staring at the camera.
Me only knowing Quid Pro Quo:
Mind Size: *MEGA*
Here are four more for a GIGA mind. Do ut des, do ut facias, facio ut des, facio ut facias.
@@roberto8650 I also just learned “in loco parentis” U L T R A M I N D
@@chrisppx Opinio iuris sive necessitatis
I've also seen mutatis mutandis used in mathematics, where definitions and theorems may be applied to slightly different but similar objects while the details remain largely the same. It can save a lot of time when the changes are mostly just trivial.
10:41 : "Look, I dunno. The law's weird. What do you want from me?"
- Devin Stone, 2021
I think it's cool that the law covers unlikely scenarios. Reminds of the most important rule for designing any system: if it can go wrong, it will!
1:47 you did NOT
Oh my god! That voice is HILARIOUS!!!
I'm scarred now
As a Sign Language Interpreter, I appreciate this video.
I took some interpreting courses. Your comment intrigues me. Tell us more!
@@afropoppette As Interpreters we need to be aware of a variety of things. This video explaining terms help insure interpretation is done correctly. (If you want to ask more questions you can email me at thomasinterpreting@gmail.com .)
This is the first time I considered the plight of interpreters dealing with jargon.
I generally loathe ads in every context possible, and yet your segues are something I always look forward to because damn are they smooth.
I’m home brewing a DND spell called Suggestion of Death now.
Wisdom save, if fail, target thinks they're dead, lays down for 1 minute or on successful charisma check, at which point they convince themselves they aren't.
As much as I've appreciated all the dedicated and extensive looks at serious issues in todays world this last year or so, it's nice to have a video like this again. Stay well out there.
0:00 - 0:05 I like your funny words magic man
Objection, "suggestion of death" could also be a indie band name.
Now do The Most Normal (But FAKE) Legal Terms
OBJECTION!
0:15 is a clear violation of the International Statute of Secrecy!
Shout out to all my legal eagles from Reading, England: Home of Jiggery Pokery.
Mutatis mutandis, what a wonderful phrase!
Mutandis mutandis, ain't no passing phase!
It means "To change, specifically the things that need to be changed"!
It's our legal term, not a philosophy!
Mutandis mutandis!
I'll leave now
Please stay 👏👏
That Champerty Bridgerton accent had me shook
"Attractive Nuisance" sounds like it would be applicable to Hansel and Gretel
Sure is and that witch was tripping. Lol
@@portiarichards4057 Her house was one.
Not sure if it exists in the USA, but here in Canada we have a legal term of "The Casual Fornicator." It's used in family law to determine parental rights and refers to an individual who has not demonstrated any interest in whether he did cause a pregnancy or demonstrate even the minimum responsibility to the child. As such, "Casual Fornicators" are not entitled to all the same rights as other biological fathers.
My father is an attorney. The only time I actually needed to use his services is when a landlord made "quiet enjoyment" of my apartment impossible, by renovating the apartment above me, very loudly, for months and months (I worked at home).
Sorry Devin, your intro required this:-
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed varius elit neque, et auctor sem congue non. Donec rutrum luctus ante id blandit. Fusce nec tincidunt nunc. Cras feugiat lectus nec neque tincidunt porta. Morbi luctus magna eget magna blandit, sed semper orci sollicitudin. Nulla vel dolor eget diam viverra feugiat. Suspendisse potenti. Proin finibus ligula magna, vel porta purus porta porttitor. Fusce eu elit vel diam placerat rutrum. Ut sed gravida diam. Pellentesque imperdiet sem eget fermentum pulvinar. Sed vitae ultrices turpis. Vivamus posuere justo dui, at consectetur leo pharetra non. Duis elementum eu libero at sollicitudin.
Amor vincit omnia
@@winonalieux6728 in vino veritas
I dont know enough Latin to translate thsi, what does it mena
@@Maxawa0851 it's Lorem Ipsum. It is not 100% Latin and it's not meant to make 100% sense. It is used as dummy text for designers drafting websites, news letters and articles. That's the joke, by the way.
@@35milesoflead i knew the lorum ipsum thing but is the rest also gibberish?
I love the jiggery bit at the end when every answer is "a little bit racist".
I went down a Google rabbit hole because I swore ‘Jiggery Pokery’ wasn’t racist and didn’t watch the next 30 seconds of the video where he says as much
I keep having to scroll back because my ADHD brain stops paying attention as soon as you actually cover the meaning
The youngest female to give birth was confirmed to be just five years, seven months, and twenty one days old after she went through precocious puberty. She had a five pound eight ounce baby boy through a caesarean section due to her pelvis being too small, obviously, for the baby's head to pass.