I think the reason the Orville is so successful is because like you said, Seth McFarline respects and loves Star Trek, so he'll do Trek fans good. /nod
Seth is a mega star trek fan... it is basically his religion. He has never made anything funny about Star Trek on his shows... Star Wars, other movies.... have all been comically parodied and ridiculed with his excessive need to be funny.... but you can tell Seth zealously worships Star Trek.
STD is following the modern formula of most of the modern shows. Like the new Battlestar Galactica or GOT, a continuous story arc that basically involves unhappy people being mean to each other. The Orville is optimistic and presents a future world that you would want to live in, and a crew you would love to serve with.
that's basically the thrust of what MacFarlane says in the interview I took some clips from. (though, he doesn't name Discovery of course). Bringing sci-fi back to the happy place it was in before everything had to be grim-dark. I actually quite enjoyed Battlestar Galactica back in the day though.
So true, I have acces to STD on netflix, yet I don't watch it there because I don't feel it's worth it, it's more a chore than a pleasure like The Orville is, kinda hope that it comes to netflix, they can boot STD for all I care.
Over 50 years of loving Star Trek... and I LOVED The Orville ! Best since Next Gen ! I like the jokes... I am with you on Seth, he totally surprised us with this show ! I am impressed ! Can't wait til season 2
I tried watching Star Trek before but found it incredibly boring but I watched Orville and IT WAS SO MUCH MORE FUN I LOVED IT!, Seth McFarlane somehow makes it seem interesting Idk if its his sense of humour that pulls me in or what but if I had been introduced to the star trek universe with Orville I would've loved it much more.
Probably not, you know he also helped with TED Talks? Because he earned so much money off of Ted which he thought was pretty stupid he felt he should put it into something good.
@@GummyDinosaursify Exactly. This very much seems to me 99% Star Trek; 1% comedic bits inserted so they can call it a comedy and thereby avoid copyright infringement action from Paramount.
Season two is even better. Every episode has more and more to offer, and they have fun guest stars each episode like Ted Danson and Jason Alexander. I usually describe it as "Star Trek for normal people." It is NOT a parody of Star Trek. It's not a parody at all. It's just a sci-fi show that has slightly more comedy than Star Trek, but a lot less than, say Red Dwarf.
I gave the Orville a chance two weeks ago. And once I started, I couldn’t stop. Last night, I finished the second season, and I’m kinda sad there’s not more to go with right now. I’ll just probably start all over again from the beginning. There’s really nothing left to say here - you summed it up pretty good, and I couldn’t agree more.
Word on the grapevine is that Macfarlane has stated for Season 2, he plans to shift the series even further towards sci-fi driven plots and less emphasis on comedy. From what I've gathered, Macfarlane deliberately placed more comedy in the opening 6 episodes so he could convince FOX it was a "parody of Trek" and not a serious sci-fi series similar to Trek. If you recall, the trailers for the series billed it as pretty much a televised "Galaxy Quest," but by episode 6, the comedy had become virtually non-existent (honestly, no more than it was in TNG). Apparently, since the network didn't seem to mind the shift to more serious sci-fi, Macfarlane plans to have season 2 lean further in that direction.
P I honestly have seen and read about this planned shift today for the first time and it absolutely was what I thought watching the 2nd season including last nights episode. The more serious tone is very noticeable and if it stays like that, it will make The Orville as highly enjoyable as SG1 for me (sry sci-fi nerd here, love trek but stargate and SW more). This show rocks
@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock Post-S2 comment: The rumors were true. Season 2 shifted further away from comedy and took a darker, more sci-fi approach, even introducing a 2-part story. Season 2's episode _"Home"_ is an absolute delight; arguably the best episode of the season with guest appearances by Robert Picardo (The Doctor on _Star Trek: Voyager_ ), John Billingsly (Dr. Phlox on _Star Trek: Enterprise_ ) and Molly Hagan (the Jem'Hadar Eris in _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ )
Maybe all the love that this show get's will help to make some people realize how much potential their is in the Start Trek franchise and make "actual" Star Trek again.
That's my hope as well. I really hope the folks in charge of Discovery realize how much more sucessful this show is than their own and sort of course correct based on that.
The Orville shows how sick Hollywood is....particularly the folk at Paramount...for letting sickos write Star Trek scripts in the absence of GENE RODDENBERRY. !! If a TOTALLY DIFFERENT group of writers of this show can evoke this level of nostalgia...WHY THE HELL AREN'T THEY WRITING FOR STAR TREK ??????!!!!!
I just finished binge watching the first season of The Orville the other day and watched the first couple episodes of the second season last night. I'm loving it so far. During many of the episodes, I found myself thinking about parts of various episodes in terms of the Star Trek universe... "Captain isn't (usually) supposed to go on away missions!" "Why don't they just use the transporter room?" "What about the Prime Directive?!" but had to keep reminding myself "this isn't the Trek universe!" They do seem to take extra liberties in bending the rules of physics, or doing things that don't quite make sense. For example in the episode with the 2-D portal, they allowed the shuttle itself to flatten into 2 dimensions, but used a bubble to keep the occupants of the shuttle in 3-D. Wouldn't the ship fail to function when all the electrical components get crushed into 2-D? All in all, it's a great show. It feels a lot like Star Trek, even though it's not. We need MORE!
Alotta people don't know, but Seth is a huge Trek fan. This show was basically his way to express his love for the franchise and what it represents in Star Trek; good character development and stories.
I absolutely love this show, was so glad it's been bought back for a third season, let's hope it goes on for years to come, even hope they go big screen, would love to see it at the cinema
Totally enjoy The Orville. Was sceptical at first, but the pilot episode def stole my attention, and it just gets better and better. Talking about family guy, Seth said in one interview that he hasnt written the episodes since 2010. So that explains a lot to me. Anyway....... Season 2 is coming y'all!!!!
We couldn't handle it....THAT show would exceed the manufacturers recommended safety limits !!!!!! .....lol.........It would tear the fabric of the TV/Continuum APART !!!!!
Excellent video. I don't think The Orville is a parody, although many people tend to label it that way. Just because it has comedy, it doesn't make it a spoof. Galaxy Quest would be a parody. The Orville feels more like an homage to Trek.
When I was able to post my first comment on The Orville ...years ago....I acknowledged that the spirit of Star Trek was rather obvious on the screen. I think Gene Roddenberry would be quite entertained by this show. Thanks Seth.....let me ''buy you one'' !!!!!!
Am rewatching all the episodes again. In hindsight I must admit the comedy felt a little forced, The drama a little stilted. But season 2 came out much stronger. The humour flowed better, the characters felt more natural. I think that they realised being funny AND serious wasn’t working, they have to be serious at times and funny at other times. Now it’s brilliant.
YESSSS!!!! My five seconds of fame has come!! And gone. (sigh) Oh, and great analysis, love these characters, (#Kitanpower) Cmon, FOX, how 'bout a raise for this show!! Can't wait for Season 2!!.Keep up the great work!! :)
I’d say the Orville is a little more serious than Guardians. I love it far more than I thought I would. Seeing Seth this way has increased my respect tremendously for him. He is very talented and a lot less crass than I thought he was.
It's rather interesting how The Orville and STD are basically polar opposites. While STD calls itself Trek and tries to act like a serious entry in the series, it barely has any touching points with any previous Trek. You know, beyond taking the name and insignia. Meanwhile, excepting the amount and type of humor, The Orville bleeds Trek in every aspect and at every step, despite not being Trek "officially". Hope we get a dozen more seasons, at least.
Seth MacFarlane to Paramount executives in early 2016: "I would be interested in producing this new Star Trek Discovery series you're working on. I'm worried that you are going to make it too dark and depressing." The Paramount executives: "Nah, audiences love dark. If you don't like it, go make your own show! Hahaha ha!!" That conversation literally took place.
Which is why I Don’t like the newer Star Treks. There is too much fighting, wars, and hostility. Real Life is OverFilled with negativity and hate and violence and the pandemic! The Orville has become my “New Reality”!
My all time favorite Star Trek show was DS9, however, The Orville is now up there below it and TNG. I just love it! STD is just too dark for me, but that's not to say there hasn't been moments that I liked. Just not for me.
Ohhhh man, I don't know where I'd put The Orville if I had to rank it in with the various Trek shows. That's a tough one. But yes, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about STD as well haha
Orville is basically the MCU to Star Trek Discovery's DCU. One is full of joking, full of optimism and focuses on character over plot. The other one is dark, gritty and focuses on plot over character. Both can work but one is just more appealing than the other.
coming at this as a die polytreknic, i honestly like Orville more as a setting. Better continuity. More relateable characters. More optimistic tone. Discovery is great in seasons 3 & 4, but merely very good in seasons 1 & 2, and not a good continuity fit. Picard is great, but dark, pessimistic, and while character driven, not aiming to feel like trek shows past, but life after starfleet. Lower Decks feels like, "oh, Sh**, Seth did it, we need a response!" And it is a good response, but still, not optimistic, tho not the dark pessimism of Picard. The only otimistic trek right now is Prodigy, but i want more Orville. And, if Seth can't do more himself, a spinoff. I love them all... but Orville is the kind of SF I longed for since Ent season 3. And the ending of Season two was stories of hope.... showng Orville can have a dark edge... but they also won against long odds....
This show works so well because it lacks the pompous, dry, bureaucratic quality of the Next Generation. The characters are flawed, and the situations are well-grounded in relatable situations. In this respect, it's a lot more like TOS than TNG. When Seth is making better "Star Trek" at FOX than Star Trek, there's something wrong at CBS.
Season 3 was amazing, but a mixed bag... it was way too serious and the humour only starts to come back about halfway through. Overall though its 1000% better than Discovery, Picard and even Strange new worlds. If you love proper Star Trek, then this is what you should be watching.
I love the Orville. It's the first new trek since ENT. I feel like the humor was heavier handed early on but then in production they must have realized they have an actually good show without it and decided to tone it down a little. I like the blend of 85% trek 15% McFarlane, especially since he is a canon trek character.
Have to say I saw the trailer and cringed a little. Weirdly it's actually very well done a refreshing and original uptake on the scifi trekie genre's. Well done. 👍
I think the Orville has the ability to be the Star Trek we have all been waiting for decades. The writing is reminiscent of TNG, the special effects are pretty damn good and the acting is good. What kills it is the shitty jokes and references to the 21st century. I know this is supposed to be a spoof, but it has so much more potential than that. In Star Trek the characters are meant to be aspirational but have their own faults that make them human. In the Orville characters are making out of place jokes and references it tense situations essentially killing any immersion. The Krill could make for perfect vilains. They could act almost like the xindi from Enterprise. Pushing the crew to their limits and testing their morality as they must stop an almost unstoppable enemy. The show need this in the second season otherwise I fear it will be cancelled like Enterprise was. I hope Seth McFarlane pulls off something good in season 2. Because if not, something truly special could be lost.
Yea, I can totally see how the jokes could be a problem for some, though they weren't really for me, and I felt that they were kept to a minimum in most of the more serious situations. This is a Seth MacFarlane show and Fox *loves* him, so I don't think this show will get cancelled unless it tanks in the ratings which it won't if the response from Star Trek fans so far is any indication. Here's hoping the second season is even better than the first!
You watch this video after season 3 and you get to see all the major arcs and developments of these characters, like Malloy really comes into his own by the end. I love his time travel arc.
I think Orville needs a switch-style episode. This would be one that the ship is tooling through space, doing something mundane, relaxing, making a few wise cracks (very few) to disarm the viewers. They catch something unusual on their long range sensors, and feel like investigating. When they get there, they are suddenly immersed in a hyper stressful, critical situation; one that they must muster all their skills to overcome. At the end, they defeat the threat, and head for home in a somber mood, pondering the events. I'm thinking something like the "Doomsday Machine", or an opponent that can only be stopped by thinking & working "out of the box". Oh, and the antagonist (if any) can't have Kazon hair. Think serious.
Yeah, I think they could do that and end one episode on a dramatic cliffhanger. Just to switch up the pace and the stakes once halfway through the season. But then go back to business as normal after.
Unlike a lot of people, I actually like every series of Star Trek and place each series in it's own bubble, place and time, if you will. However, I was just curious as to what The Orville was about. I finally started watching and completed all of the shows in 2022. And, I must admit, I am a huge fan. The production, casting, writing, EVERYTHING, was done quite well. I will watch as many episodes as they produce. Excellent job!!!
The thing about macfarlane's work is he was told to create a fox show based off it's most popular (and later long running) series, The Simpsons. He LITERALLY made multiple series that were made to be parodies of another animated comedy series. When he was allowed to stretch his creative thoughts, he created one of the better Si-Fi series within the last few years.
I totally love the Orville series. It is a wonderfully light hearted but sometimes poingnant expose of life in many of its facets. Recommended viewing.
Closest we'll probably came to a Galaxy Quest TV show. Hmm. Don't know quite how to feel about that. Also, really hope that more TNG era actors guest star in the series. I'd love to see Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn (preferably playing a Moclan since they're so reminiscent of Klingons), Gates McFadden, Johnathan Frakes, Kate Mulgrew, etc.
Michael Dorn as a Moclan would be hilarious, but I don't think he'd do it. Dorn hates going through makeup. I could totally see him coming on as a guest spot though
This has to be the best show on tv by far. The writing and acting is on point my hats off to the people that make this show what it is great job and I hope I keeps going for years to come. I can't wait for the next episode every week I look forward to it.
From the moment I heard about this show, I knew I was going to like it. And the humour in the first episode just helped to cement the fact that The Orville was going to be good and just getting better. "So it's an anti-banana ray? Does it work on all fruits? How about salads?" lol And "Happy Arbor Day" or the better line "You've got wood!" lol
*Heart warming, imaginaytion inspiring and adventurous,* that's all I expect from a Star Trek take... The Orville is a love message to Star Trek fans. For me this is especially true after that huge flop of Picard usurpation (along STD - which is surely not as bad as Picard, it's just another Sci-Fi having its own "personality" which is _not_ Star Trek)! Finally, a real Star Trek... Not because it's "like" TNG, no, not at all (personally I wasn't a fan of TNG, coming from the very 1st series with Kirk since it got repeated several times after its finale during the following decade in my pre-teen youth). The main reason is that as opposed to most series nowadays, it doesn't focus on spewing gore or twisted dark plot/ambiance nor boring "Soap-like" intimate relations and gossips of which most TV series seem to have copy the same script to adapt (during its "era", I already found that TNG was trending that way and I wasn't a fan of this)... As if they're all produced by the same "clan" transforming their laziness into marketing efficiency, in order to force viewers into cheap and incoherent emotions that are most of the time childish and non believable while all having the same "social" narrative as a canvas (for instance Netflix productions have such a tendency). *The main reason(s) imho - Because it bears a sense of adventure and discovery* (of Galaxies, species and relations with aliens, cosmic bodies and events, etc., rather than relational intimacies "studies", twisted mind sets and plots for easy shocking emotions), in engaging and heartfelt stories with memorable characters, in a future filled with hope rather than witnessing a worsen humanity having even more flaws and weaknesses than nowadays. But most importantly, if I want to see a Star Trek, I *do not* want to be lectured at nor educated by pretentious producers (or pseudo "critics" trying to categorize everything into boxes and giving a bad mark when they're not able to do so, by lack of imagination and open mindedness): I have other multiple sources for such matters, I don't want to rely on some propaganda machine nor a fantasy lore forcing one sole pretermined narrative that's shared among most other series on those matters, especially when it's done with utter nonsense - i.e. ST Picard; I want to flee from our nowadays realities and stupidities for a moment, as I want to get *_entertained_* in order to refuel my psyche rather than being submitted to lazy shocking and/or nonsensical emotions (and that I can't feel when it's done as cheap shots over an imparted time of an episode, only there for filling the gaps of a lack of imagination). *I want the adventure to be the center of interest,* rather than soap-like bedroom crap that I don't relate to (since most of nowadays TV series characters are all forgivable and replaceable anyways, via scenarios that are freakingly boring, unreal/incoherent and uninteresting - unless one would nurture a seed of voyeurism). The Orville is telling us to "hang on" in these corporate SJW totalitarian days, which is quite needed! More Star Trek than Star Trek but it's not Star Trek... Yes, MacFarlane has a special sense of humor :)
I thank you for a well done wrap up of the The Orville, I like it a lot and as for being like Star Trek that is ok bye me. Looking forward to season two and yes I will watch Star Trek Discovery, but it is not as good as The Orville
I'm way late to this, but I just started watching this week and as someone who never watched Star Trek in the past, I found this show really fun and engaging, and it's made me want to delve into TNG.
TOS.....TNG.....STV......STDS9....and to some extent...STENT....Are American Treasures.....! Give me a barf bag for Diss-scovery ( Dysentery )....and Picard... (Pick-A-Card) !!....The latter two are wearing a Red Rubber Nose !!
So happy the Orville is a thing. Seth has his hits and misses, but the Oville is a definite hit! Once you watch it, you realize how far off base actual Trek has become.
I think the reason the Orville is so successful is because like you said, Seth McFarline respects and loves Star Trek, so he'll do Trek fans good.
/nod
He has so far, and I'm sure he'll keep it up!
Yup. He IS a fan, so he respects the fans. He cares.
Seth is a mega star trek fan... it is basically his religion. He has never made anything funny about Star Trek on his shows... Star Wars, other movies.... have all been comically parodied and ridiculed with his excessive need to be funny.... but you can tell Seth zealously worships Star Trek.
To be honest, I was prepared to hate The Orville. Seth Macfarlane is crafting a lovely valentine to ST:TNG. I absolutely love it.
Yea, same here. Was very pleasantly surprised.
It was quite a surprise, I watched the first episode just to see how cheezy it would be......WRO-O-O-O-NG !!!!!! Orville is a MasterPiece !!
@@douglasrowland3722 the orville should try transporter to energize to beam out like star trek transporter beam down
STD is following the modern formula of most of the modern shows. Like the new Battlestar Galactica or GOT, a continuous story arc that basically involves unhappy people being mean to each other. The Orville is optimistic and presents a future world that you would want to live in, and a crew you would love to serve with.
that's basically the thrust of what MacFarlane says in the interview I took some clips from. (though, he doesn't name Discovery of course). Bringing sci-fi back to the happy place it was in before everything had to be grim-dark.
I actually quite enjoyed Battlestar Galactica back in the day though.
But Battlestar Galactica had characters that were interesting!
I would say that's the main difference between BSG and Discovery, yea.
Steve C wow this is THE BEST and comment I have seen about modern television
So true, I have acces to STD on netflix, yet I don't watch it there because I don't feel it's worth it, it's more a chore than a pleasure like The Orville is, kinda hope that it comes to netflix, they can boot STD for all I care.
Over 50 years of loving Star Trek... and I LOVED The Orville ! Best since Next Gen ! I like the jokes... I am with you on Seth, he totally surprised us with this show ! I am impressed ! Can't wait til season 2
Same here; I'm really excited for season 2
Thanks for watching!
I tried watching Star Trek before but found it incredibly boring but I watched Orville and IT WAS SO MUCH MORE FUN I LOVED IT!, Seth McFarlane somehow makes it seem interesting Idk if its his sense of humour that pulls me in or what but if I had been introduced to the star trek universe with Orville I would've loved it much more.
me too
The Orville rules, seriously I hope they do a dozen seasons of that thing!
Amen to that. Same here.
The Orville is probably the best thing Seth MacFarlane has done to date
Yes ! May God bless his Ford Fairlane...!
YEAP
Probably not, you know he also helped with TED Talks? Because he earned so much money off of Ted which he thought was pretty stupid he felt he should put it into something good.
I don’t necessarily agree that this is a straight parody though, more like an homage with some aspects of galaxy quest type parody sprinkled within.
I believe they legally have to call it a parody otherwise CBS would probably sue
Would you prefer a _gay_ parody?
wow I just commented the same thing
Dittos on the mention of Galaxy Quest !
@@GummyDinosaursify Exactly. This very much seems to me 99% Star Trek; 1% comedic bits inserted so they can call it a comedy and thereby avoid copyright infringement action from Paramount.
If Star Trek is no longer Star Trek, and it isn't, then Orville is welcome to it.
Pretty much, yea. I think I'd be a lot more upset about Discovery if The Orville wasn't also a thing.
That's a view ! That's a view !
Star Trek is dead, Long live 'Star Trek - The Orville Generation'! xD
May it live long and prosper
Season two is even better. Every episode has more and more to offer, and they have fun guest stars each episode like Ted Danson and Jason Alexander. I usually describe it as "Star Trek for normal people." It is NOT a parody of Star Trek. It's not a parody at all. It's just a sci-fi show that has slightly more comedy than Star Trek, but a lot less than, say Red Dwarf.
And Season Three is even better. These people don't seem to know the meaning of the sentence "impossible to top the previous episode". GO ORVILLE!
Inviting an entire planet for his wedding... 😂😂 Only Isaac could pull that off 😂😂
I love The Orville. Can't wait for more.
Same here! Thanks for watching.
"Could you move a little left? You were just weirdly framed and it was buggin me" Still a perfect human funny response.
Seth is a nerd that is why The Orville is like Star Trek.
I'm trying to understand: what is a "nerd" for you?
My dad was a die hard trek fan and because of the orville I'm finally watching the next generation
I gave the Orville a chance two weeks ago.
And once I started, I couldn’t stop. Last night, I finished the second season, and I’m kinda sad there’s not more to go with right now. I’ll just probably start all over again from the beginning.
There’s really nothing left to say here - you summed it up pretty good, and I couldn’t agree more.
Word on the grapevine is that Macfarlane has stated for Season 2, he plans to shift the series even further towards sci-fi driven plots and less emphasis on comedy.
From what I've gathered, Macfarlane deliberately placed more comedy in the opening 6 episodes so he could convince FOX it was a "parody of Trek" and not a serious sci-fi series similar to Trek. If you recall, the trailers for the series billed it as pretty much a televised "Galaxy Quest," but by episode 6, the comedy had become virtually non-existent (honestly, no more than it was in TNG). Apparently, since the network didn't seem to mind the shift to more serious sci-fi, Macfarlane plans to have season 2 lean further in that direction.
Yea, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. MacFarlane is a savvy business man.
I'm very interested in seeing how MacFarlane will respond to the inevitable Orville fan films.
P I honestly have seen and read about this planned shift today for the first time and it absolutely was what I thought watching the 2nd season including last nights episode. The more serious tone is very noticeable and if it stays like that, it will make The Orville as highly enjoyable as SG1 for me (sry sci-fi nerd here, love trek but stargate and SW more). This show rocks
holy shit this is sounding better and better. I gotta get my hands on this show
@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock Post-S2 comment:
The rumors were true. Season 2 shifted further away from comedy and took a darker, more sci-fi approach, even introducing a 2-part story.
Season 2's episode _"Home"_ is an absolute delight; arguably the best episode of the season with guest appearances by Robert Picardo (The Doctor on _Star Trek: Voyager_ ), John Billingsly (Dr. Phlox on _Star Trek: Enterprise_ ) and Molly Hagan (the Jem'Hadar Eris in _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ )
Maybe all the love that this show get's will help to make some people realize how much potential their is in the Start Trek franchise and make "actual" Star Trek again.
That's my hope as well. I really hope the folks in charge of Discovery realize how much more sucessful this show is than their own and sort of course correct based on that.
The Orville shows how sick Hollywood is....particularly the folk at Paramount...for letting sickos write Star Trek scripts in the absence of GENE RODDENBERRY. !!
If a TOTALLY DIFFERENT group of writers of this show can evoke this level of nostalgia...WHY THE HELL AREN'T THEY WRITING FOR STAR TREK ??????!!!!!
I loved The Orville.
You know its good when it makes you smile by the end of each episode, I know I did.
Every episode ends in a good note and made me feel hopeful.
I just finished binge watching the first season of The Orville the other day and watched the first couple episodes of the second season last night. I'm loving it so far. During many of the episodes, I found myself thinking about parts of various episodes in terms of the Star Trek universe...
"Captain isn't (usually) supposed to go on away missions!"
"Why don't they just use the transporter room?"
"What about the Prime Directive?!"
but had to keep reminding myself "this isn't the Trek universe!"
They do seem to take extra liberties in bending the rules of physics, or doing things that don't quite make sense. For example in the episode with the 2-D portal, they allowed the shuttle itself to flatten into 2 dimensions, but used a bubble to keep the occupants of the shuttle in 3-D. Wouldn't the ship fail to function when all the electrical components get crushed into 2-D?
All in all, it's a great show. It feels a lot like Star Trek, even though it's not. We need MORE!
I love when you begin a new series with low expectations and it surpasses everything you thought it would be. Far better than the inverse.
Alotta people don't know, but Seth is a huge Trek fan. This show was basically his way to express his love for the franchise and what it represents in Star Trek; good character development and stories.
I really enjoyed watching The Orville. I hope that they continue to move forward and Kick Butt
Seth MacFarlane tweeted last night; apparently Robert Duncan McNeill (Tom Paris on Voyager) directed one of the season 2 episodes.
@@BullSession I wonder if that means they'll bring a not-Borg catsuit named "9 of 10" onboard, lol.
I absolutely love this show, was so glad it's been bought back for a third season, let's hope it goes on for years to come, even hope they go big screen, would love to see it at the cinema
Totally enjoy The Orville. Was sceptical at first, but the pilot episode def stole my attention, and it just gets better and better. Talking about family guy, Seth said in one interview that he hasnt written the episodes since 2010. So that explains a lot to me.
Anyway.......
Season 2 is coming y'all!!!!
Yea! I'm gonna wait for the whole thing to come out, then binge it. Can't wait!
I legit thought it would be Family Guy in space, just goes to show how creative Seth can be, when he's into what he's making
Compared to STD ya, it's more classic Trek. Would love to see The Orville with STD's budget.
We couldn't handle it....THAT show would exceed the manufacturers recommended safety limits !!!!!! .....lol.........It would tear the fabric of the TV/Continuum APART !!!!!
Excellent video. I don't think The Orville is a parody, although many people tend to label it that way. Just because it has comedy, it doesn't make it a spoof. Galaxy Quest would be a parody. The Orville feels more like an homage to Trek.
The one think I’ve noticed , if you want good drama acting, get a comedian, because there is a lot of dark anger in them that’s suppressed with humor
eleven minutes in with Bender's voice over, perfect because you know that's EXACTLY what McFarlane said!!
You nailed my opinion with the title of this video: The Orville is more "Star Trek" than Star Trek has been in a long time.
When I was able to post my first comment on The Orville ...years ago....I acknowledged that the spirit of Star Trek was rather obvious on the screen. I think Gene Roddenberry would be quite entertained by this show. Thanks Seth.....let me ''buy you one'' !!!!!!
Am rewatching all the episodes again. In hindsight I must admit the comedy felt a little forced, The drama a little stilted. But season 2 came out much stronger. The humour flowed better, the characters felt more natural. I think that they realised being funny AND serious wasn’t working, they have to be serious at times and funny at other times. Now it’s brilliant.
YESSSS!!!! My five seconds of fame has come!! And gone. (sigh) Oh, and great analysis, love these characters, (#Kitanpower) Cmon, FOX, how 'bout a raise for this show!! Can't wait for Season 2!!.Keep up the great work!! :)
I agree about the raise. With a slightly larger budget, they could possibly incorporate Norm MacDonald's character into the main cast!
I’d say the Orville is a little more serious than Guardians. I love it far more than I thought I would. Seeing Seth this way has increased my respect tremendously for him. He is very talented and a lot less crass than I thought he was.
It's rather interesting how The Orville and STD are basically polar opposites. While STD calls itself Trek and tries to act like a serious entry in the series, it barely has any touching points with any previous Trek. You know, beyond taking the name and insignia.
Meanwhile, excepting the amount and type of humor, The Orville bleeds Trek in every aspect and at every step, despite not being Trek "officially".
Hope we get a dozen more seasons, at least.
I love this Show, but I wish Alara would come back. Miss her
Great show season 3 on Hulu just amazing . hope they have a season 4
Seth MacFarlane to Paramount executives in early 2016: "I would be interested in producing this new Star Trek Discovery series you're working on. I'm worried that you are going to make it too dark and depressing."
The Paramount executives: "Nah, audiences love dark. If you don't like it, go make your own show! Hahaha ha!!"
That conversation literally took place.
Possibly without the hubistric laughter tacked on the end. But otherwise that is genuinely a conversation that happened.
Which is why I Don’t like the newer Star Treks. There is too much fighting, wars, and hostility. Real Life is OverFilled with negativity and hate and violence and the pandemic! The Orville has become my “New Reality”!
Orville is a wonderful series! It “reeks” of a “Perfect Star Trek”, and it has become my favorite series By Far!!! 💖💝
They should put Seth in charge for the next series of official Star Trek, he caught the spirit of the series.
Like I said....Why isn't HE writing for Star Trek TODAY ?????? Contracts?????
Well...there are still 80 years left in this century !!!!!!!!
Episode three was magical. Not only was it as good as Star Trek, it actually passed it in some respects.
My all time favorite Star Trek show was DS9, however, The Orville is now up there below it and TNG. I just love it! STD is just too dark for me, but that's not to say there hasn't been moments that I liked. Just not for me.
Ohhhh man, I don't know where I'd put The Orville if I had to rank it in with the various Trek shows. That's a tough one. But yes, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about STD as well haha
This youtube comments section is like a glitch in the matrix. All positive comments!!! It just goes to show what a great show The Orville is.
Have to say I do like this better than Trek in some ways. More of how people would really act. Laid back less stuffy.
Season 2 trumped Season 1 which was already great.
Loving the 3rd season now!
This was a great assessment! Quality content. I now want to take on The Orville more than I did.
Do it! I highly recommend it! (obviously)
Honour to Seth for daring to do this.
Simple, innocent, harmless entertainment. That's The Orville and that's how it's meant to be.
Orville is basically the MCU to Star Trek Discovery's DCU. One is full of joking, full of optimism and focuses on character over plot. The other one is dark, gritty and focuses on plot over character. Both can work but one is just more appealing than the other.
coming at this as a die polytreknic, i honestly like Orville more as a setting. Better continuity. More relateable characters. More optimistic tone. Discovery is great in seasons 3 & 4, but merely very good in seasons 1 & 2, and not a good continuity fit. Picard is great, but dark, pessimistic, and while character driven, not aiming to feel like trek shows past, but life after starfleet. Lower Decks feels like, "oh, Sh**, Seth did it, we need a response!" And it is a good response, but still, not optimistic, tho not the dark pessimism of Picard. The only otimistic trek right now is Prodigy, but i want more Orville. And, if Seth can't do more himself, a spinoff. I love them all... but Orville is the kind of SF I longed for since Ent season 3. And the ending of Season two was stories of hope.... showng Orville can have a dark edge... but they also won against long odds....
This show works so well because it lacks the pompous, dry, bureaucratic quality of the Next Generation. The characters are flawed, and the situations are well-grounded in relatable situations. In this respect, it's a lot more like TOS than TNG.
When Seth is making better "Star Trek" at FOX than Star Trek, there's something wrong at CBS.
Fascinating to watch this today, while I'm waiting for S2 Ep 9, Identity, part 2.
Season 3 was amazing, but a mixed bag... it was way too serious and the humour only starts to come back about halfway through. Overall though its 1000% better than Discovery, Picard and even Strange new worlds. If you love proper Star Trek, then this is what you should be watching.
I love the Orville. It's the first new trek since ENT. I feel like the humor was heavier handed early on but then in production they must have realized they have an actually good show without it and decided to tone it down a little. I like the blend of 85% trek 15% McFarlane, especially since he is a canon trek character.
Now that we are at the end of season 3 and craving for season 4, what do we say?? 😉
Have to say I saw the trailer and cringed a little.
Weirdly it's actually very well done a refreshing and original uptake on the scifi trekie genre's.
Well done. 👍
Don't think of The Orville as made the Familly Guy dude, it was by the person behind the Cosmos remake.
I think the Orville has the ability to be the Star Trek we have all been waiting for decades. The writing is reminiscent of TNG, the special effects are pretty damn good and the acting is good. What kills it is the shitty jokes and references to the 21st century. I know this is supposed to be a spoof, but it has so much more potential than that. In Star Trek the characters are meant to be aspirational but have their own faults that make them human. In the Orville characters are making out of place jokes and references it tense situations essentially killing any immersion. The Krill could make for perfect vilains. They could act almost like the xindi from Enterprise. Pushing the crew to their limits and testing their morality as they must stop an almost unstoppable enemy. The show need this in the second season otherwise I fear it will be cancelled like Enterprise was. I hope Seth McFarlane pulls off something good in season 2. Because if not, something truly special could be lost.
Yea, I can totally see how the jokes could be a problem for some, though they weren't really for me, and I felt that they were kept to a minimum in most of the more serious situations. This is a Seth MacFarlane show and Fox *loves* him, so I don't think this show will get cancelled unless it tanks in the ratings which it won't if the response from Star Trek fans so far is any indication. Here's hoping the second season is even better than the first!
I believe that "step up" will happen in next weeks episode of season 2. It brings back the Krill.
Love it just discovered about it a few weeks ago and can't get enough
I love The Orville...well done Seth.
The Bender moment was hilarious . My own STAR TREK. With blackjack. And hookers! xDDD
"In fact, forget the Star Trek and the blackjack!"
You watch this video after season 3 and you get to see all the major arcs and developments of these characters, like Malloy really comes into his own by the end. I love his time travel arc.
I think Orville needs a switch-style episode. This would be one that the ship is tooling through space, doing something mundane, relaxing, making a few wise cracks (very few) to disarm the viewers. They catch something unusual on their long range sensors, and feel like investigating. When they get there, they are suddenly immersed in a hyper stressful, critical situation; one that they must muster all their skills to overcome. At the end, they defeat the threat, and head for home in a somber mood, pondering the events. I'm thinking something like the "Doomsday Machine", or an opponent that can only be stopped by thinking & working "out of the box". Oh, and the antagonist (if any) can't have Kazon hair. Think serious.
That would be great. The Kree episode was almost that, but we still got some car insurance jokes here and there (which I was A-ok with, but still)
Yeah, I think they could do that and end one episode on a dramatic cliffhanger. Just to switch up the pace and the stakes once halfway through the season. But then go back to business as normal after.
"The Next Generation, but funny" nice.
It was the most susinct description I could think of
I'm sure Picard would be facepalming a lot more if he had to sit beside his ex-wife every day at work for seven years, lol.
Unlike a lot of people, I actually like every series of Star Trek and place each series in it's own bubble, place and time, if you will. However, I was just curious as to what The Orville was about. I finally started watching and completed all of the shows in 2022. And, I must admit, I am a huge fan. The production, casting, writing, EVERYTHING, was done quite well. I will watch as many episodes as they produce. Excellent job!!!
Yes, may it live long and prosper
The Orville just shows that Seth McFarlane is a GOD! Fantastic show, lets hope we get seasons 4, 5, 6, 7 etc!
I couldn't agree more. The orville is brilliant. Season 3 even upped the show even more. I really hope this show gets more seasons.
I loved Alara!! Very sad to see her gone :’(
Love this show in every way!
YOU WILL BE SILENT!.
Seth:fuck em,you're doin good.
0:07 That record scratch emphasizing Seth MacFarlane's credit as the creator of the show is brilliant and gets me every time 😄
The thing about macfarlane's work is he was told to create a fox show based off it's most popular (and later long running) series, The Simpsons. He LITERALLY made multiple series that were made to be parodies of another animated comedy series. When he was allowed to stretch his creative thoughts, he created one of the better Si-Fi series within the last few years.
The Destiny’s Child joke made me laugh. Especially the 15 people part.
While it rehashes a lot of TNG plots, it does do some of them better.
awesome review! looking forward to a season 2 review!
I totally love the Orville series. It is a wonderfully light hearted but sometimes poingnant expose of life in many of its facets. Recommended viewing.
Closest we'll probably came to a Galaxy Quest TV show. Hmm. Don't know quite how to feel about that. Also, really hope that more TNG era actors guest star in the series. I'd love to see Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn (preferably playing a Moclan since they're so reminiscent of Klingons), Gates McFadden, Johnathan Frakes, Kate Mulgrew, etc.
Michael Dorn as a Moclan would be hilarious, but I don't think he'd do it. Dorn hates going through makeup. I could totally see him coming on as a guest spot though
The best tv show since star trek voyager for me
That's probably how I'd rate it too
This has to be the best show on tv by far. The writing and acting is on point my hats off to the people that make this show what it is great job and I hope I keeps going for years to come. I can't wait for the next episode every week I look forward to it.
Never watched any star trek series and I enjoyed the Orville.
If you like The Orville, give Star Trek The Next Generation a try (start with season three though)
From the moment I heard about this show, I knew I was going to like it. And the humour in the first episode just helped to cement the fact that The Orville was going to be good and just getting better. "So it's an anti-banana ray? Does it work on all fruits? How about salads?" lol And "Happy Arbor Day" or the better line "You've got wood!" lol
I'm so excited for the next season!
*Heart warming, imaginaytion inspiring and adventurous,* that's all I expect from a Star Trek take... The Orville is a love message to Star Trek fans. For me this is especially true after that huge flop of Picard usurpation (along STD - which is surely not as bad as Picard, it's just another Sci-Fi having its own "personality" which is _not_ Star Trek)! Finally, a real Star Trek... Not because it's "like" TNG, no, not at all (personally I wasn't a fan of TNG, coming from the very 1st series with Kirk since it got repeated several times after its finale during the following decade in my pre-teen youth). The main reason is that as opposed to most series nowadays, it doesn't focus on spewing gore or twisted dark plot/ambiance nor boring "Soap-like" intimate relations and gossips of which most TV series seem to have copy the same script to adapt (during its "era", I already found that TNG was trending that way and I wasn't a fan of this)... As if they're all produced by the same "clan" transforming their laziness into marketing efficiency, in order to force viewers into cheap and incoherent emotions that are most of the time childish and non believable while all having the same "social" narrative as a canvas (for instance Netflix productions have such a tendency).
*The main reason(s) imho - Because it bears a sense of adventure and discovery* (of Galaxies, species and relations with aliens, cosmic bodies and events, etc., rather than relational intimacies "studies", twisted mind sets and plots for easy shocking emotions), in engaging and heartfelt stories with memorable characters, in a future filled with hope rather than witnessing a worsen humanity having even more flaws and weaknesses than nowadays. But most importantly, if I want to see a Star Trek, I *do not* want to be lectured at nor educated by pretentious producers (or pseudo "critics" trying to categorize everything into boxes and giving a bad mark when they're not able to do so, by lack of imagination and open mindedness): I have other multiple sources for such matters, I don't want to rely on some propaganda machine nor a fantasy lore forcing one sole pretermined narrative that's shared among most other series on those matters, especially when it's done with utter nonsense - i.e. ST Picard; I want to flee from our nowadays realities and stupidities for a moment, as I want to get *_entertained_* in order to refuel my psyche rather than being submitted to lazy shocking and/or nonsensical emotions (and that I can't feel when it's done as cheap shots over an imparted time of an episode, only there for filling the gaps of a lack of imagination). *I want the adventure to be the center of interest,* rather than soap-like bedroom crap that I don't relate to (since most of nowadays TV series characters are all forgivable and replaceable anyways, via scenarios that are freakingly boring, unreal/incoherent and uninteresting - unless one would nurture a seed of voyeurism).
The Orville is telling us to "hang on" in these corporate SJW totalitarian days, which is quite needed! More Star Trek than Star Trek but it's not Star Trek... Yes, MacFarlane has a special sense of humor :)
Funny to see this video now telling Orville is comedy as it turned real dark real fast towards the end of Season 2
Iiim a Trekie, that said, I LOVE THE ORVILLE! And have seen all the episodes several times!
I love The Orville and I enjoy Star Trek Discovery. STD Season 2 was way better than season 1
Starting into first season on first personal rerun. It's even funnier this time than last. The funniest show on TV in a number of years.
THAT'S for sure !
I thank you for a well done wrap up of the The Orville, I like it a lot and as for being like Star Trek that is ok bye me. Looking forward to season two and yes I will watch Star Trek Discovery, but it is not as good as The Orville
Hell yea! I'm pumped for Orville season 2.
I love the Orville
It's a great show!
I'm way late to this, but I just started watching this week and as someone who never watched Star Trek in the past, I found this show really fun and engaging, and it's made me want to delve into TNG.
TOS.....TNG.....STV......STDS9....and to some extent...STENT....Are American Treasures.....! Give me a barf bag for Diss-scovery ( Dysentery )....and Picard...
(Pick-A-Card) !!....The latter two are wearing a Red Rubber Nose !!
I've seen all three seasons and also want more. Disney+, please give us more Oriville!!!
Not surprised at all. this is his 'Galaxy Quest done straight!
So happy the Orville is a thing. Seth has his hits and misses, but the Oville is a definite hit!
Once you watch it, you realize how far off base actual Trek has become.
I bought Hulu just to watch it.
It seems like just the right blend of TNG and a sprinkle of Galaxy quest.
Will you be doing season 2?