No Way Down: Chemical Release at Wacker Polysilicon
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- A CSB safety video on the investigation into the fatal release of hydrogen chloride at the Wacker Polysilicon North America facility in Charleston, Tennessee, that occurred on November 13, 2020. One contract worker was killed and two others were seriously injured when attempting to escape the release.
Learn more here: www.csb.gov/wa...
We gather again for the semi-annual USCSB subscribers meeting
Yessir we do. We are the faithful of the USCSB
Present!
i love it when they upload. get to watch stuff explode
o7
Here
USCSB Lesson #1408: If you show up to work with jeans, gloves, and safety glasses, and everyone is in head-to-toe Soviet era hazmat suits, maybe just sit that one out.
What exactly makes a rubber chemical protective suit "Soviet-era"?
@@_ArsNovaYou know, like the "Bio-robots" in Chernobyl
Congrator Aren't formed to think about that (they actually aren't formed at all. Because this costs money)
@@_ArsNova During the Cold War the preferred material and construction for Hazmat suits was to use a solid impermeable rubber suit. American, and by extension a lot of Western Europe, used semi-permeable fabrics with a special activated charcoal interlayer to stop gasses and such from reaching the skin while still allowing moderate breathability making them much more comfortable to wear for extended periods.
@@_ArsNova I believe the main idea is the style, not THE SUIT itself. Soviet-style is something like a heavy, thick-rubber, cumbersome and designed to withstand small nuclear explosion as they couldn't afford to build single-use suits. Meanwhile west built suits that held together once. Well engineered but the Soviet-style is more intimidating and projects air of "maybe i should sit this one out" attitude when wearing 'casual friday'-clothes.
I never clicked on a video from a gov agency this fast
i'm not even subscribed to them, but the universe knew what i wanted
@@billy4lifeify Welcome to the society. We are few, but we are loyal, and we all completely lose it when we see a new video has dropped. 😅
Amen friend
@@Jason_Hubredit’s not often!! It’s like Christmas😂
my favorite government agency
Ah, the David Attenborough of chemical safety incidents.
I hope they're making sure his voice will be perfectly replicated by AI in the future. I can't imagine these videos without it.
Perfectly said.
This channel is the jewl within the sea of coal
@@Jason_Hubredthat would be a poor soulless imitation. I think finding a new voice would be better.
@@hylobateslar4151Man’s not heard the latest in voice replication - I can guarantee you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference
That was not verbal instructions, that was a game of telephone.
I bet you anything the final instruction was "anything between 15 to 40 lbs is okay".
Verbal instructions is always a game of telephone.
too much institutional knowledge is transmitted verbally, we would have much better outcomes if people were trained to reference the written source.
veritas inflections are pawlwise a flamed homophone purple monkey dishwasher.
It just kept going!!
one of the best uses of taxpayer money
One of the few times you use hold out fanned cash towards the gov without hesitating!
People are always like "Oh ThE gOveRnMenT iS sO bAd ThEy RuN tHe DMV AnD iT's So BaD" but clearly they've never seen this channel.
I would support a CSB Patreon SO HARD
They even have their own background music.
@@FayeVert Sadly I don't think they can legally do that because they are a government agency.
I may be German, I may work in IT, but these videos still teach me a lot about watching out for dangers, and the importance of procedure. Thank you for making these videos available to everyone!
These videos are ultimately about how complex systems fail. That is very applicable to IT systems as well.
These are the most German videos available in English.
Funnily enough Wacker themselves (or more specifically the original company, Wacker Chemie AG, as "Wacker Polysilicon" is a division of theirs) are German. I'm sure Germany (& probably Europe as a whole) takes workplace safety _much_ more seriously than the US though (especially with the ISO signage system extensively used throughout the EU), which is just sad since the US _could_ take it as seriously as that too (& thus help prevent deaths, injuries, & property damage, among other things), but for various reasons they don't.
@@TheCarson116 It looks like the incident had zero technical leadership. I expect more out of a German or and American chemical firm (I've worked at both)
It proves that any industry will only benefit from establishing written policies, assessing risk, and anticipating total system failure. At my work, I don’t have to worry about acid clouds, but I do have to worry about how we continue operating without the internet.
I leave work at a petrochemical facility only for a CSB video to drop. What a day to be alive
Watch out for red arrows above your head
watch out for simplified diagrams
Never forget your PPE
God bless you made it another one and didn't get sick from the food truck either
You're braver than any cop. 🤘
props to the guy who was helping and trying to shield less equipped colleague
Wasn't even his colleague, they worked at different companies
@@nickwilde2569On that particular day, they were colleagues regardless of which company paid their wages.
Also, a Pen Gulf victim was put under the emergency shower by Jake Marshall employees to try protecting them from the hydrogen chloride gas, which turns into hydrochloric acid when it mixes with moisture in the eyes, nasal membranes, and lungs. The water from the shower would have helped shield the victim, as well as dilute any acid formed on clothes and skin, if the flow rate was high enough. See p. 23 of the report.
@@markh.6687 So what I'm hearing here is that, at least some of the Jake Marshall employees were well versed in chemical incident response, potentially to the point of understanding the specific chemical interactions involved. They may have been ill prepared for the task at hand, but they were very prepared if anything went wrong.
@@sparcnut every worker has far more in common with workers at another company than they do with their own bosses.
Narrator: "They were not provided torque specs"
Me:"Well that's definitely what happened"
Me: “Those fools, rookie mistake.”
"Just tighten the shit out of it with that impact over there."
@@AGueroAFuera many ugga-duggas were applied
avgn : what were they THINKING
You must be new here... The gentleman that narrates these videos is not simply called Narrator. The gentleman's name is Sheldon and he is a man of Legend
But seriously; what a horrible, preventable accident. RIP Mr. Aguilar.
May he rest in peace
F
MY TAX MONEY PAYS FOR THIS. HELL YES
First time I've ever agreed to that sentiment outside of aerospace stuff.
@@chrisbolland5634 National parks?
@@chrisbolland5634 I don't know... I like firefighting services, roads, libraries, breathing clean air, drinking clean water, the basic pillars of societies, etc.
@@chrisbolland5634 I once told one of my professors about the program in the treasury Department that will take defaced currency, try to see how much there is, and then send you back your money and legitimately could not believe the government would help out people like that
I am also happy your tax money pays for this.
2 videos in 3 months? We are blessed
"Yeah we should have more accidents so we can get more awesome videos like this" - no one
@@dj_laundry_list I said WE are blessed, not the workers. And you'd be surprised
but the workers that were part of the events that bring us these videos are cursed...
@@dj_laundry_list With the amount of safety incidents we have annually, they almost have unlimited content to farm. It’s likely the quality of the videos that takes them so long to upload.
@whatzituya55 if every incident was reported properly the uscb would have 10 videos a week
I was middle management at a chemical company in Texas similar to Wacker. I can tell you as an insider, upper-level management weighs the cost of safety against what it would cost in lawsuit settlements should someone lose their life or get seriously injured. They come up with a number. If the cost of safety exceeds that number, they don’t enforce safety rules as closely. If anything like this ever happens, everything is blamed on middle management. IOW: me. When I was there, I saw a lot of corner-cutting on safety so I quit. On the way out, I warned my crew about the lax safety standards. Word got around and a dozen employees quit. The company found out about it and sued me. Had it not been for pro bono work by a public interest law firm, I would have been screwed. The outcome was 1) they would completely review safety standards and practices. 2) I would not go public and 3) they paid legal fees to the firm that defended me. Personally, I received nothing but a nice dinner from my attorneys. Oh well, all’s well that ends well I suppose. I left Texas.
You did in fact just go public - just left out the name of the company :)
Thank you for your service.
Wow, there needs to be prison time associated with this.
awesome!!
I worked for an aerospace firm that calculated risks for certain operational scenarios. I'm happy to say that we never, ever, ever, ever cut corners or fudged reports to get by. Sometimes we had to redesign a part that technically met gov't standards, but not our engineering standards, at the cost of many millions of dollars.
There is a code for it. Api 580 and 581 risk based inspection. I laugh every time I'm in a safety meeting, and I hear the phrase "there is no price on a human life." Bs. Yes, there is. That's why I knew how hard the jab was being pushed was bs. Companies weigh everything by risk vs reward. If you can't be sued, there is no risk.
"Management ignored workers concerns" is such a frustrating reoccurring element to these types of accidents. Always an unfortunate reminder about why we need regulatory agencies that have enough teeth to hold companies and individuals accountable.
When you see where something could go wrong, leave a paper trail.
Without consequences and overwatch these managers are fine with risking lives to save inconsequential amounts of time.
@@BeefIngot The results are usually featured here, too. Along with a death count. Funny how we're constantly hearing from "interest groups" (paid shills.) about how these rules are 'unnecessary' and 'burdensome' because they mean that some demon in a suit can't go on an extra vacation that year or worse not be able to pay off that Senator that helps them skirt the law and causes chaos whenever necessary.
We're barely one step away from a Fascist* state at this point, and they want to elect the head of the Corporatocracy back into the White House. If you think it's bad now, oh just wait. He's got a plan so that our lives never again have to interfere with that CEO's vacation ever again.
*Fascism is easy to sum up. It's "of the business, by the business, and FOR the business" instead of "of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, and for the PEOPLE."
I think it's one of the "bingo card" fields in Plainly Difficult videos 😬
Time for my usual two-part reaction to a USCSB upload notification:
Yay, a USCSB video! 😄 ...... Oh no, a USCSB video. 😰
😂
For that reason, I really appreciate they cut straight to number of people who got hurt. Its not meant to be dramatic and keep you wondering
Lol came here for this. Glad to have a new video to watch but sad it had to be made in the first place.
Thank you , USCSB
36 likes AND A HEART FROM USCSB but no replies? How???
Fun fact: The "bald eagle" call you hear in the USCSB intro is actually a red-tailed hawk.
fake
Yes I agree that seems like the hawk call
real
yup, classic Hollywood trivia. bald eagles are photogenic but they sound hilarious. 😂
100%.
The guy shielding the woman from the release may have saved their life....
Oh they absolutely saved her life. Hydrogen chloride is incredibly dangerous. It's what hydrochloric acid is made of. The chemical burns can destroy you.
Woulda been nice for her to have been issued chemical rated PPE. Pathetic company leadership. Typical capitalist thinking. Bunch of business do nothings providing no value and harming innocent people.
Her not giving in to impulse and trying to climb down also probably saved her life.
And found himself a wife if they are both single.
True but she is going to need a heck of a skincare routine. I hope she gets a huge payout from the company.
I know a guy who works at an industrial gas facility. He's an area manager and I told him about the CSB videos and he was pretty interested in showing his crew what the CSB does. Hopefully that crew will be safer for these videos.
Edit: thank you to all the investigators and the board members who dedicate their professional life to digging up the lessons these disasters should teach us.
Most of the people who work in those places mock safety, sleep thru presentations and general see anyone interested in such things as weak.
But that said, I got out in one piece. They might not.
In 3 minutes, the maintenance technician managed to tear a hole in his acid suit, knock his respirator off in the middle of a cloud of acid, and fall off a 70 ft tower. Really shows you the value of staying calm and thinking things through in situations like this...
Yes
The maintenance tech didn't fall off the tower. They were trapped by the stairwell until the release had stopped. The one who fell was one of the other workers that had been installing insulation.
It does still underscore the value of staying calm. That's often a tough thing to do in emergencies, especially if you are inexperienced.
I wouldn't discount the sheer lack of visibility, you could easily snag on something even moving somewhat cautiously. ...I agree the respirator might've been more preventable, although if you had to duck under something to move about, that could just happen too.
bro was cooked before he got to work. dude was on borrowed time
I was thinking the same thing.
Soon as you said Graphite, I already knew what happened.
Wondering why graphite was used. I don't know enough to make an educated guess
@@YanickaQuiltthermal properties and chemical (acid) resistance if I were to guess. HCl is nasty stuff.
@@YanickaQuiltmy guess is the HCL at high temperature in the exchanger would eat through many other standard heat-exchanger materials. Once it was cooled, steel pipe was fine.
@@josephfolkemer The danger comes when HCL comes into contact with moisture. A very small unseen leak will corrode the metal severely as the wisp of HCL gas mixed with moisture in the air. I've seen a 3/4" valve chewed nearly in half from a very slow leak....and packing blow right out of another with 400psi behind it... and that's in a process with maybe 300ppm of HCL gas in the mix, not straight HCL. Scary stuff.
No you didn't, because it's not there!
This channel always reminds me of the phrase "If you think it's expensive to do it the correct way, wait till you see how much it costs to do it the wrong way."
Upper Management: “that’s what insurance is for!”
The lawsuits and fines are still usually less than the profits they get from cutting corners. They see that as a price of business.
It’s so sad that something really bad needs to happen to get such an great video like this.
There would be no Air Disasters series if we didn’t have enough to fill up all of those episodes. People just keep finding new ways to screw up stuff.
The real sad part is they don't nearly cover all of the accidents that occur country wide in the time it takes them to make a video
Torquing flanges down while high pressure highly hazardous chemicals are in the piping is crazy.
You're saying workers health is more important than shareholders earnings? 😮
Also, for this to happen the equipment must have been pressurized while not properly torqued down, right? Maybe that's fine, but it does sound a bit odd.
Live torquing is done all the time safely. Their procedures and policies failed them in this case.
@@dnebdal Not at all, it's actually its common practice, where i work we have to go back and retorque a lot of equipment when it comes back online.
take a boiler for instance, you have a cold torque setting which is done in the shop for a sight glass and when it's up temperature 400c at 6000 Kpa you need to retorque it to avoid possible leaks.
No difference for cold service equipment, when you get under -20c the metal contracts leading to leaks so retorquing is required.
i work in a refinery and these are must watch its sad to say the root causes are always human error up and down the chain of command.
...compared to what? Compared to draining and restarting the system? A lot of things can go wrong that way too. It seems to me that people should be able to ensure that everything is properly torqued. The problem here was the game of broken telephone where verbal instructions had to pass through THREE people to get to the apprentice torquing the bolts.
@8:00 "No, yeah we totally communicated the torque requirements to the apprentice.... it's his fault"
That tracks.
Jman- Torque the bolts to 40ftlbs
Apprentice-all of them?
Jman- you’ll figure it out.
Those are the same people who would call me a moron, without common sense, or having a problem with authority. Do what they said, not what the law states... It's probably because half of the managers can't read a production drawing to save their own life. Let them do the job, and if they get it wrong... Well, they should know what will happen.
The "spring" pictured between the blue flanges is actually a bellows-style expansion joint. You can't actually see through it, but I can understand how the animator was confused.
I was really confused about what that was, I was trying to imagine why this rigid industrial tower needed suspension lol
I was also confused how that was supposed to work
I actually tought it was part of the heat exchange system. Like spring-like piping that allows air to pass through so it cools down.
My guess was that those are used to connect pipes that are not perfectly aligned or to allow some movement. Is that correct?
@@MidBoss You can see that the pipes are not aligned
I used to be an apprentice Industrial Pipefitter. Love this channel so much. I've delt with wrenches that are taller than I am, and I'm 6 feet tall. These wrenches can get mind-blowingly massive, lol. I was injured twice, but nothing serious. Once, a massive end cap weighing a good 300 pounds, landed on my foot. Thankfully, it didn't end up bending the steel toes inwards on my boots. Another time, a group of us just got done with a meeting, I turned around and took a step and ended up falling into a hole due to one of the floor grates having been opened. Sprain my ankle or something, since my toes turned purple/red for a day or two, but I just continued working and my toes are fine now many years later. Stay safe out there, folks! So many ways to get injured; or worse out there.
These videos are so nostalgic. They remind me of watching hours of "How It's Made" on Sci channel. The clear visuals, the iconic relaxing voice, It's all so peaceful and facinating.☺️☺️☺️
Or "Unsolved Mysteries" with Robert Stack.
Super nostalgic…Minus the death and capitalism’s wanton disregard for human life and environment
Sometimes it's like "Fact or Fiction" with Jonathan Franks. Nah he wouldn't do that.. oh shi!.
@@kilodeltaeight without that capitalism we wouldn't have all the things we have.
Socialism just swept under the rug any incident like the one in the video.
Reminds me of being in science class in school, and the teacher rolled out the CRT TV and turned off the lights. Simpler times
I work in oil and gas, binge watching old (and the rare new) CSB videos after work while on the road is good times. It does make me think a tad more about safety.. much more than any safety training has done. Adding a few photos of the documented damage after the animation would be great. Like the old school videos. Keep it up!
That is one small criticism I have of the newer videos.
The older videos, I suspect out of necessity, had more real life footage and photos in them.
I understand the desire to show off the amazing computer graphics but real pics of the damage would help to drive home the lesson.
Safe journeys in your work.
@@1978garfieldI think aome of these accidents have less obvious damage-a releace of HCl wouldn’t necessarily cause striking damage to the surrounding machinery (I don’t think).
@@arielioffe1810 the broken graphite flange would have been a neat visual aid
Thank you for the feedback and your support of the CSB.
USCSB deserves more money and focus. It is groups like these that are part of enforcing rules to prevent dangerous working conditions.
Sometimes it is workers making poor choices, and sometimes it is abuse by higher ups. It should always be prevented if possible. Does your board of executives feel like it is “losing money”? Is the floor manager trying not to “waste time”? Well too bad. If we can’t keep workers safe then you shouldn’t be doing manufacturing. Maybe the service industry selling clothing and food in stores is more your speed.
I do love that these videos exist; they are so instructive for those who need it, as well as informative and entertaining to lay people.
Totally agree, and its why voting is so important - Trump tried to kill this agency, it needs to be talked about more
The king of narration returns.
I wonder who he is
Hes my dad
Reliance on verbal communications in a chain is essentially playing the telephone game where there’s a high likelihood that critical details get lost or warped along the way. Preparing, distributing (to all), and using written communications (always checking them before completing a procedure) is critical. And please conduct hazard assessments and always use all appropriate PPE (never downgrade PPE to save money or marginally increase comfort or or to look more socially acceptable/cooler🙄). And it was nearly 50 years since NIOSH issued guidance?! 😬 Wow, this incident was definitely worthy of a video! Thanks again USCSB… may you never be shut down by politicians under political pressure from corporate donors looking to cut costs on necessary safety procedures, programs, and equipment!🙏🙏🙏
"Reliance on verbal communications in a chain is essentially playing the telephone game"
Couldn't have said it better. There are also accents that need to be taken account, some people also speak extremely fast and if you ask them to repeat it slower they just get angry.
Then there's the apprentice who may or may not have been anxious, misheard the verbally transmitted information and just said "okay", despite being aware he didn't hear it clearly, because of nervousness. Just putting this out here because this is a lot more common than people are aware.
@@c0461-e1s Excellent points!👏
As a kid there was a game where you said something say 10x then when it got back to you it was completely different. Chinese whispers I believe it was called
@@Jabarri74 That is (basically) the same game as telephone. You say something to someone, they say it to someone else than the chain continues till it goes back to you (or whoever started it). By the end it is often completely and utterly different than how it started.
Torquing to spec has got to be one of the most overlooked practices in nearly every industry in the US. Torque wrenches are expensive compared to regular wrenches. Even in industries that really ought to know better. Like revalving propane cylinders/tanks.
Still may need to be rechecked while in operation at elevated pressures or temps (lower temps too)
I think the issue is that graphite non metal parts aren't labeled. The torque required would be more or less self-evident.
@someperson7 Most maintenance organizations within facilities have torque wrenches - it's just that getting them to find the required torque spec and actually use it instead of relying on "yeah, that feels about right" can be difficult - especially in a production environment under time pressure. The best way to solve that issue, especially in larger organizations, is through proper planning of maintenance work - finding and staging any special tools like a torque wrench in advance, providing the required torque spec on the work order, maybe even having another person verify and sign off that the torquing procedure was properly completed if it's a particularly critical or hazardous job, like what this video shows.
@@blackbird_actual Yeah you'd think. Propane company who shall remain nameless I can tell you for a fact never tightened a thing to spec in four years and zero people had torque wrenches. Plastic injection molding company had torque wrenches but when they dug it up all of the experienced people decided that the bolts didn't feel right enough with the torque wrench and the wrench must be out of calibration or the spec was wrong. No one ever got calibration instruments or replaced the torque wrenches. Those bolts were holding up multi-ton molds. Meanwhile we were ripping bolts out of the platnen left right and center. Blown a hole, use a helicoil insert until next time. Even mechanics and builders who ought to know better won't be bothered. It's just not embedded into the culture. A lot of companies have guys who just learned on the job and they know what works... Mostly. So they just keep on going the way they've always been working until something bad happens.
I agree. This and on top of that knowing the limitations of using a torque measurement on a fastener for determining preload/clamping force in an assembly. It’s the second worst way after just tightening by feel, but it is MUCH more practical and cheaper than alternatives (angle/torque measurement, preload indicating fasteners and washers, ultrasonic, strain gauges whatever). Even the OEMs overlook this all the time, the only way around it is very strict process controls which everyone always gets lax on after a while because tightening bolts and SHCS seems like such trivial work. Little different rust inhibitor oil on that shipment of fasteners? Bam your over yielding bolts on pressure vessels. New operator? Bam, your over torquing 30% as he drags the wrench past it’s set point. Change in mating thread machining operation? Bam under setting preload value due to garbage rough threads. Hope all of that was accounted for when the product was designed!
I love you USCSB, I'd love a career in this to help prevent these accidents
Reach out to them and ask them what they are looking for. Then see if you can get whatever qualifications they need. It's probably a lot easier than you think.
You're going to need to study a lot of chemistry, engineering, and industrial hygiene.
@@Tekker2234 well, no...the government hiring process can be long and drawn out. Most of the CSB investigators are Process Engineers, so that would be one field to seek a degree in. Industrial hygiene and occupational safety would be related areas of study.
@@FayeVert didn't know that, thank you for clarifying!
@@FayeVerteh I wouldn’t say that you necessarily have to be a process engineer directly to be able to be involved in making a difference. There are plenty of admin roles as well as creative roles and educational. Someone had to press upload on these videos after all! So yes if you want to become a process engineer to directly be responsible for investigating this stuff, sure it’s hard. But we need to be normalizing how vital ALL of the admin and grunt work going on too.
Your videos have introduced me to your reports which are GOLD MINE for a process engineer...
There isn't another channel that makes me more excited for a new video
Sounds like you'd like WTYP
I'm surprised they didn't stamp the torque on the bolts.
EDIT: Posted this as a reply but figured I'd add it here as well.
Guys I don't mean they custom order bolts where the manufacturer puts the torque spec on it; I mean they do it themselves at the time of assembly the infrastructure. You can buy alphanumeric punch sets.
TBH the bolts are probably ur typical grade 8 zinc coated bolts. It's very rare to have fastening hardware to have specs listed on it unless it's a specialized type of fastener for a specific purpose/application and even then often times nothing more than the grade markings.
Regardless of the fastener max allowable torque clamping load (and torque required to achieve this), the fastener could be used for a number of flange and gasket arrangements. The same bolts (maybe SS304 B8SH) are used for service for aluminum flat face flanges, aluminum raised face flanges (rare), stainless flanges, etc. Each will have a different torque spec for the specific flange type and gasket material. There is no clear way to mark this on either the fastener or flange unfortunately.
No chance of a specialized bolt stamper device that could be used manually on site at installation to stamp a figure into the bolt head? I think it'd be "easy" to design such a device along the lines of a staple gun, with selectable numbers and a holder for the bolt. Use I'm imagining: select the desired rating, put the bolt in the holder, and push the handle. The question I have is whether the stamping action is likely to somehow weaken the bolt.
in europe we write the torque number we tightend the bolts in flanges on the flanges in newtonmeters and our initials if the previous guys did that here they might have seen the torque spec and be saved
Guys I don't mean they custom order bolts where the manufacturer puts the torque spec on it; I mean they do it themselves at the time of assembly the infrastructure. You can buy alphanumeric punch sets.
USCSB joins the list of the very few government agencies I fully support and trust. These videos are fascinating and necessary.
Give it time, I'm sure they'll abuse that trust overtime in the name of diversity.
Soon as the corrupt find there's something else to ruin
The USCSB might be the only federal agency I wholeheartedly approve of
Braindead comment
Same.
No love for the National Park Service?
NTSB have some really good board meetings and investigative hearings on their YT.
United States Postal Inspection Service? They're like the most honest cops America has. The Mail Cops.
I am back to learn proper procedures and avoid injury/death in an industry completely unrelated to my daily life.
Thank you USCSB
Never know when you might make a friend with a related job, hear them bitching about stuff at work, and have some alarm bells go off. That's your chance to save lives
@@psymar You are correct, however, I live on a small island that does not have this level of industry 😂
The quality and engaging nature of these videos is absolutely incredible. Right to the point of detail on fittings, rust and textures. Just incredible they manage to make a coherent and valuable resource available like this, especially with such accuracy and detail!
99% of comments: how amazing USCSB and their video production skills are
1% of comments: the actual incident itself
Well, 99% of commenters don't work at industrial chemical processing facilities
Welcome to the 99% Club!
And then there's us birders complaining about the eagle.
A special Thank You for the epic animations and your editing team. Also, the narrator guy is a national treasure.
He's right up there with Robert Stack of "Unsolved Mysteries."
The last time I was this early, Deepwater Horizon was still afloat.
Same here
Thank you USCSB for all that you do. Safety always!
Babe wake up, there’s a new USCSB upload
THIS!
Fancy seeing you here!
I love seeing the same lazy uninspired comment on every video
@@Wasmachineman interesting how we still continually find each other’s comments across TH-cam through various subjects :))
@@ktktktktktktkt literally nobody asked
Who does not love the quality of these videos and animation? Just superb.
I'm a maintenance manager at a chemical plant. I would not be comfortable setting a contractor loose on an exotic piece of equipment like this. I would handle this in house or if it really was required that contractors do the work, I would be standing over them like a hawk until the critical parts were complete. Its crazy watching these videos seeing how these companies just let contractors loose in their plants.
These poor workers. Blue collar workers are the hardest working people but often face the biggest dangers. This is why regulations and so-called "red tape" exists. Yes, sometimes briefings and forms feel labourious, but it reduces the risk of this happening.
As the saying goes; "regulations are written in blood."
@@Tekker2234Yep, and I'd rather not have that blood be my coworkers'.
Ironically many vote for the party that tries to kill safety regulations; Trump tried to kill the CSB, but only managed to slash its budget
My first introduction to a real "safety culture" was working on the Trans-Alaska Pipeline; Field Hazard Assessments (FHA's) (performed by supervisors who planned the job), Job Hazard Assessments (JHA's) (performed by those tasked with performing the work), Hot Work Permits, written procedures, and Simultaneous Operations (SIMOPS) meetings were the norm. I learned a great deal working in that environment, and I strive to inculcate that same safety culture at my new job. Videos like this go a long way to explaining to employees who have never worked in these types of environments what kinds of hazards they may be surrounded by, but absolutely oblivious to.
Any one of those contract workers had undoubtedly heard that they have 'stop the job authority'. Yet, none of them opted to exercise it in this situation - why not? "Those guys over there are wearing head-to-toe hazmat suits for their job, and they're like 25 ft away, and we've got basic PPE on." OR, "We've got to wear these stupid hazmat suits, and those guys, less than 30ft away, aren't wearing ANY of this stuff?!"= STOP THE JOB
I understand why the USCSB would focus on the steps that employers and regulatory agencies might have taken to ensure the employees were never put into an unsafe circumstance in the first place, but I believe that failing to point out the right of the employees to stop the job when the facility managers and supervisors fail in these circumstances tends to reinforces the mindset that "safety is someone else's job".
It is my expectation that my employees stop the job if they believe there is something unsafe about the situation, and I pray that they have the willingness to do so when they encounter it.
That’s a really good point. We need to voice that right too so that we normalize it for management as well. All too often it’s perceived as the greenhorn is bothered about stuff, by both management and coworkers. If we can get the conversation to focus on it better to be cautious then dead we might turn around some of this stuff
Safety culture is really so important, you have that 100% right! And it is up to everyone to reproduce that safety culture, especially those in positions of authority.
Yeah I’m sorry but if I’m 70ft up and see a crew in full PPE working right next to me and I don’t have that PPE I’m stopping their work till my crew got down.
Yuppp
No shame in a stop work ever!
yeah. Management hears you stopped work because the boys in full hazmat showed up and you're in t-shirts, either they understand or you get to dodge the bullet of working for a place that would've made you go back up.
Same for the full-PPE crew.
As with so many of these videos, this is a rich source of ideas for horror writers. Thanks to the USCSB for all that you do; and best wishes in your investigation of the Biolab release in Conyers, GA. My dog and I were evacuated from our agility trial 6 mi. from the site.
The company I work for has a facility right next to the Biolab place that caught on fire two weeks ago. They couldn't work for almost 4-5 days because there was a yellow haze (probably chlorine gas) still floating around. Scary shit.
@@tylerdover4542 Yikes! It's won't be their first dance with the CSB either--they were there in 2020.
Thank you, USCSB!!!!! Another exceptional safety video that leaders and managers in every industry should watch and consider the implications to their own operations.
The only government agency that I will sit down and listen to. Godspeed, CSB
For every video posted, a Safety Man gets confirmation that the frequent safety violator on their site finally got fired.
i hate working with those safety violators. they think they're invulnerable, and don't care how they're going to kill me.
Watched these videos way back when I was in my senior design course in chemical engineering back in undergrad, pretty amazing how far their presentation has gone
I’m always so amazed at the quality of the 3D modeling in these videos
I have such conflicting emotions about this video.
On one hand i love the format, on the other it means there was a disaster that happened to real people who got injured or died....
They die regardless of someone investigating and reporting on it, sadly. This might help people think better about regulations and be safer themselves. Who knows? Someone might end up being a whistleblower on safety concerns based on what they see in these vids.
Another horrible tragedy, another fascinating watch.
I'm a stay-at-home mom but I watch every single one of these.
Excellent description as always, I learn so much more from this than just a written report. Thank you for your efforts. Charles
1,000 views within 5 minutes??? We've been jonesing for another excellent video from USCSB!
Never stop making these.
We meet once again to congratulate the best US government agency to have ever been created on producing yet another Certified Safety Classic
Safety regulations are written in blood. This is amazing work, thank you for these reports!
A new video from USCB! Stop everything, grab a coffee and watch it!
I will vote for the presidential candidate that vows to increase the USCSB's budget to 5% of the national budget. Why, yes, you may raise my taxes to do so.
Thank you all for another excellent safety video.
I never click on a notification as fast as I click on a USCSB video.
The fact that there were reports FIFTY YEARS AGO that suggested getting these sorts of safety codes into law and nothing has been done...
Always impressed at how clear and high quality these vids are.
Its crazy that three men thought their best option was to go over a guard rail at 70+ feet without any tieoff.
Panic makes people do wild things! Can't imagine how scared they must have been to stay up there for that 70 ft drop to seem preferable!!
I mean when your only other option is walking through a cloud of acid that's the best bet, walking through that cloud for as long as it would take to get down could very easily be fatal especially if in their hurry the respirators aren't fully sealed and they're breathing it in
@@LadyMWZipstaying up there would be basically a death sentence of the wind changed even with respirators, that much hot acid vapor would absolutely rip any part of you apart it touches and full body acid trauma is a lot to try to heal
@@noodlelynoodle. Hydrochloric acid is definjitely not strong enough to "rip you apart." Watch fewer movies.
tbh i wouldve done the same thing - or at the very least gotten to the next level below. bones can be reset, chemical burns can permanently scar and disable you
2025: The USCSB concludes that acronyms like SIMOPS, which shorten simple terms, are unnecessarily confusing. Instead, it's clearer to simply say that you should not perform two tasks at the same time.
Hey friends, welcome back to the annual gathering. Popcorn anybody?
Popcorn… polymer? #neverforget
were we not here just a couple months ago?
I have some
Thanks but I'm already full from Well There's Your Problem. Also have some baba ghannouj
I honestly feel bad about how badly I want to see more of these videos....Thanks for doing what you do guys, I'm from Australia.
babe wake up new USCSB video. Jokes aside from working on industrial sites I find it actually insane that they got told to interact with plant equipment while live. lock that shit out.
I think it's a nice touch having an acknowledgement of the person who died there.
Im here for every new video. Watched all your catalog of vids. Super educational
Blessed are we to have been delivered another fine USCSB video. Even though I'm british, very much appreciated
I paused playoff baseball to watch this instead. Another incredibly well animated and narrated video! Hopefully this saves future lives.
You are a person of high taste.
This channel must never stop making these videos
Two or three times a year, a government agency actually improves my day. This is one of those days.
WE LOVE YOU, SHELDON!!!
And the animation of the gas cloud is absolutely astounding!
I learned something new today about over tightening bolts.
Well yeah but what different types of materials will allow for torque specs
@@unclemonster48 That too. Who knew?!
What a sad incident. Thanks for the thoughtful well made video
Unfortunate that so many of these are the result of poor communication and lack of procedures. An extra stairwell should've been there, even if it wasn't required because then you're ahead of the game when they finally make it as a recommendation.
Or an escape ladder
I'm glad to see a new CSB video, but it's always sad when someone loses their life over events like this. I hope work like this helps prevent future disasters.
I love the video but I hate the video at the same time I hit the fact that this happened but I love the animation
This video was good as always, looking forward to learning about what happened in Georgia with the chemical fire near Atlanta.
this is like one of those mandatory safety meetings that are FUN to attend
Well, except for learning about injuries and deaths.
@@Jason_Hubred It is all fun and games until people melt alive...
I think this channel should be required viewing for EVERY undergrad and postgraduate working with hazardous chemicals or conditions.
I find work training videos so boring yet LOVE to watch these. No clue why but always find these videos interesting to watch.
one of the best channels on this website
Can we get a round of applause for the narrator? Unsung hero in these vids, they do an amazing job everytime.
Is it mainly engineers like myself watching these? We learn a lot from mistakes and how not to repeat them.
there is a surprisingly wide and diverse fanbase. I have a degree in a subdivivsion of environmental engineering, but don't work in the field. Lots of people in the building trades watch these, lots of "workplace safety guys", lots of people in the industrial maintenance field (who I believe were the original intended target audience), lots of people who work in warehouses or other jobs that are dangerous but not recognized as such, but then there's also just random folks who find them interesting.
I merely work in IT and still find them both interesting and relevant in surprising ways.
Former contract worker in chemical refineries here.
Had many jobs before those and after. But the whole time I was there, was extremely concerned about safety.
It's horrific that these things happen all the time. But it's morbidly fascinating to hear about and watch. Possibly learn something even though I no longer work in these environments.
@@kilodeltaeight yes, discovering the relevancies to what you think is a "safe" job is always fun, isn't it?
I was just thinking, these are my favorite videos on TH-cam.
Here in Canada, you'd be kicked off the job site until you suit up.... and you wouldn't be touching anything without a handful of paperwork and prior workup, safety briefing, and crystal clear instructions. If any of that is not followed, you can go home.
I work in IT and these are so entertaining to watch. Please never stop making these animations
damn i just watched a old vidoe and now a fresh new one is out !!! best safety videos out there!