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This has to be one of my favourite episodes of all time. You can just tell by the way Cem speaks and expresses himself, probabilities, Maths and market understanding is deeply ingrained and conceptualised in his brain to the point where its hard for him to translate his brains understandings of his complex and expansive knowledge of the market into english hahaha. Please Riz, you have to have him on again and try to get more in depth on how options fundamentally drive the market and how options actually function to physically affect the movement of price and price action on our charts. Great episode.
I was thinking the exact same thing regarding your second sentence. You could see the mental gears turning as he tried to articulate his thoughts. This was a great interview.
Agree, been learning a lot about positioning in the options chain last half year and everything Cem said in this video is making my brain orgasm. Thanks!
YES! This is the stuff I live for. Market Micromechanics, option orderflow, second order greeks, my GOD this guy know what he's talking about. GREAT guest Riz. Extremely competent and humble. Favourite podcast yet.
Thank you, Riz, for creating this amazing opportunity with Cem Karsan. The level of knowledge shared here is outstanding, especially for retail traders looking to expand their understanding. Cem’s ability to simplify complex topics is exceptional-he truly makes learning accessible. This podcast is pure gold!
And to think, there's retail traders out there right now drawing rectangles around candlesticks, calling moves "turtle soup", referring to themselves as "smart money", and claiming they "trade like banks". Yet we have this gentleman on this episode breaking down the market to a science. There's levels to this ladies and gentlemen, never forget that.
It is mind blowing to think technical analysis is secondary to options flows and positioning but it does make sense having heard that the options market is much more active than the traditional stock market
This guy is a world class, understanding technical analysis alone can help u, but u won't well without much understanding of the market structure flow and how distribution are made and when likely.
Thanks for an excellent episode. Im sure many would like to know what learning resources Cem could recommend to learn the 'how' of what he does. Is it as straightforward as Hull or Natenburg plus experience? What more? 🙏
I'm sorry but yet again there is a lot of woo woo and how amazing is THEIR understanding of the materket but literally zero actionable info helping others do the same.
Not at all, he’s being very specific actually just it’s very complexed the concepts that he’s talking about. Specifically he’s talking about expirations, liquidity, statistical probability, the flow of orders between buyers and sellers and macroeconomics.
@wordsofrizdom yeah but we heard this stuff over and over from his interviews which is always great but you have to rely on his analysis and we're never in a better position to do this ourselves, I realise its a complicated field but most of the time its far too generic and vague for anyone that would like to implement a similar system. not to take anything from your interview btw, I always like to hear him speak and loved the way you approached it, so thanks for that!
He has NO OBLIGATION TO ANYONE to share ANYTHING what has value. If you want such valuable information work on it yourself, find it yourself, program it yourself, learn how to interpret it yourself, etc... I have made such a system myself: analysis and visualization. It is a lot of work.
God bless you, Riz. This one is for the Options guys. I'm not an options guy but I really appreciate that you're letting traders of all asset classes eat well this year. Definetely one of the finer episodes, brother.
For those complaining how there is "nothing actionable" it's likely you're earlier along the trading journey that this is almost meaningl6. Most people simply buy calls or puts, but options are actually highly dynamic positioning instruments to bet on probable events. His main point is (1) understand how options work along a probability surface, (2) options flows drive the market, and (3) think in terms of a probability surface (trader psychology), so by gaining a deeper understanding of that, you can derive a sense of where money is flowing and to capture some of that flow for yourself.
Thank you for your comment, yes I believe many just aren’t ready YET for this conversation. However, my hope is that this pushes many to level up their understanding of options trading and the opportunities it brings!
@ ok name one thing that was super specific and/or actionable for retail traders that watch this (not doubting the knowledge and experience of the guest, just question it from the perspective of the retail crowd, like myself, that watches this) - I accept maybe the comment came across as being overly harsh, but that wasn’t the intention.
Given the clear implications of the 4th order Volga, it's undeniable we're firmly entrenched in a negative GEX regime. But what most fail to appreciate is how this shifts the gamma profile into a self-reinforcing convexity loop, driving dealer hedging activity toward a liquidity vacuum. It's not just bearish-it's a cascading flow dynamic poised to accelerate downside velocity. But hey, keep buying the dip, right?"
Proffesionals always talk in 2nd order derivatives what a podcast it gave me so many food for thoughts to play with esp Greeks Thnz Riz for bringing such an intelligent species
If I were to be tested with this lecture I would receive a very low score. Question, would having a fuller understanding of Options Trading give me more of an edge Future Trading? Appreciate what you are doing here Sir Riz!
I found this video to be exceptionally insightful and profoundly thought-provoking, as it presents its message in a way that is both engaging and deeply impactful. The creator's ability to communicate such meaningful ideas with clarity, creativity, and a sense of purpose truly resonated with me. I was particularly impressed by the attention to detail and the thoughtful approach taken to ensure the message was not only conveyed effectively but also left a lasting impression. It’s rare to come across content that strikes such a perfect balance between inspiration and practical wisdom, and I genuinely appreciate the effort and passion that went into producing this remarkable piece. This video has not only motivated me to reflect more deeply on its central themes but has also encouraged me to take action in applying its lessons to my own life. 🎉🎉
I found the section on charm, vanna and delta the most informative. Here is how I understand it could be used. Option dealers who sell options want to avoid the risk of unlimited losses so they hedge their positions with delta hedging. If they sell you 100 put options with delta=-0.5 they need to short 50 units of the underlying asset as a hedge. The problem is that delta does not stay constant (i.e. for put options it moves between 0 and -1 and for call options between 0 and 1), so the dealers need to re-adjust the hedge based on how the delta changes. "Charm" measures how delta changes as the option moves towards maturity (the delta of out-of-the-money options basically moves to zero as the time to maturity decreases, while for in-the-money options it moves to 1 for calls and to -1 for puts). "Vanna" measures how delta changes when expected volatility changes (for out-of-the-money options it holds that higher volatility results in higher deltas and lower volatility in lower lower deltas). "Gamma" measures how delta changes when the underlying asset price moves (when price goes up the delta of call options increases and the delta of put options decreases). Knowing this allows you to predict what transactions in the underlying asset option dealers need to make in order to re-hedge their exposure. If they sold 100 put options with delta=-0.5 and hedged them with short 50 units of the underlying and the delta then changes to -0.25, the option dealer needs to buy 25 units of the underlying to re-adjust the hedge (i.e. be 25 units short). Option dealers typically make these transactions at specific times of the day, which allows you to predict how they will move the price by comparing the estimated volume of transactions they need to make with the expected liquidity at that time of the day (i.e. estimating the market impact of these transactions). Example of an actionable idea would be as follows: (1) You observe very high open interest in slightly out-of-the-money options that are close to maturity (2) The market makes a positive overnight move so that the price opens higher with lower implied volatility (3) As the options moved closer to maturity (charm), price moved up (gamma) and volatility decreased (vanna), the delta of the out-of-the-money puts moved closer to zero (from some non-zero negative value), so the option dealers will need to start buying the asset to decrease their short position and thus re-adjust the hedge. (4) As long as the amount of their purchases (which you can approximately calculate) is relatively high compared to the liquidity on that market during that time of the day, you can expect they will push the price up, so you can buy the asset beforehead and speculate on the up move.
Im not sure what people expect from these podcast, a full out course step by step strategy on how to get 100% win rate? It doesnt work like that thats the point. If he started laying out all of the details on how to predict and connect stuff this video would be longs tens of hours probably. Cause its not as easy as saying find a support level and take a long lol. Analysis like his takes time and patience and lots of probabilistic thinking etc
It’s a very true statement! I think some want every single ounce of knowledge a guest has, which I understand why BUT as you perfectly said it’s limited time and to take 27 years of trading experience and try to bundle into a very short segment is near impossible but our guests do an amazing job of it that’s for sure b
@@wordsofrizdom the way he presents his approach sounds veryyy complicated, Im not sure I even want to dive as deep as he does. Maybe in a few months or years. For now Ill stick to my simple futures contracts haha. Im not sure most of the people are even capable of such analysis and diving that deep into market mechanics because this is more than just buying and selling volume. This is reading the reason behind market’s sentiment by reading the data from the global level. Thats how I view it from what he said. Comparable to rocket science almost haha
@@wordsofrizdom also regarding podcasts in general. If it werent for some other podcast I probably wouldve never changed my approach to trading. Why? Because I would simply never search for a different approach because I wouldnt even know what to search for. That particular podcast episode gave me an opportunity to hear about some other trader’s view of the market, market/price mechanics. As hes an expert he of course did an excellent job explaining it vaguely on the podcast, just enough that I started questioning what he is talking about. Found his channel and watched his free course three times. Then it opened more questions and started exploring articles and forums about certain topics and in just a few weeks my view on trading and price action and just about everything has changed dramatically. At first it seemed more complicated but I soon realised its all so simple because its the reality of any kind of market really. If its true its logical and whats logical is to understand. So ye. Podcasts are actually a great great start to exploring new worlds in just about any industry because they you give us the opportunity to hear about things we had never heard before
I understand the concept of what he's talking about but, there is little chance of me ever being able to put any of this into a trade with out the data he has available, I'll just keep trading the noise in the futures market
I´d never commented before, but this time I´ll give 5Star rating. I´ve no doubt that this guy describe alpha which couldn´t be found somewhere but in this interview. And also thz alot for WOW.🎉
Finally a real trader. Cem is the only trader on this channel worth listening to 😂 everyone else is noise. Volatility affects everyone's P&L, options are the underlying not the derivative. Options move markets not technical analysis or any indicators lol this is big boys stuff. Get ready to get humbled all you fake traders/course sellers 😂😂
I’m sorry but the broadcast was meant to say things to help us we retail traders. He’s saying a lot from a great prospective but without given any specific information or some kind of way, no disrespect to him but could have helped us more
got to be careful here - cem definitely knowledgeable. The man manages client money in three different funds, all three of them lost money in 2024 though!
I love the podcast and guests and content. But I absolutely HATE that you ask a question and FOLLOW IT with an ad. It’s insane. At least move it to the end of the guest talking before you ask the next question. Drives me absolutely bonkers.
i would like to be in contact with this guy, am pretty accurate in determining price direction either short term inter term and long term, currently working with a US private investor in providing those technicals on all assert classes, am looking to grow and perheps feed a larger institution or investors the kind of consistent market insights i provide.
@@unknowndaytrader yes i do, my approach is quit different from what i see out there hence am reaching out, it has a touch of ICT however unique in how i dertemine direction almost accurate in most cases, if you like you can observe my analysis for a week then we can talk after seeing first hand my approach, am sure youll be convinced
Asslam o Alaikum Brother I really enjoying your Show, but could you please give me the last Traders book name or any contacts info Thanks alot and best of luck, our support is with you
Not to stupid just not got the insights, experience or knowledge right now! That will change thanks to the insights here and further research afterwards 🔥
Not at all, he’s being very specific actually just it’s very complexed the concepts that he’s talking about. Specifically he’s talking about expectations, liquidity, statistical probability, the flow of orders between buyers and sellers and macroeconomics.
Yes but there is so much to learn from what he is saying on so many levels. Watch it again and again. Keep in mind that at the end of the day he's a market maker (they have a bro or sis code) and at a very basic level, market makers have to take your money, not give it to you.
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Thanks!
This has to be one of my favourite episodes of all time. You can just tell by the way Cem speaks and expresses himself, probabilities, Maths and market understanding is deeply ingrained and conceptualised in his brain to the point where its hard for him to translate his brains understandings of his complex and expansive knowledge of the market into english hahaha.
Please Riz, you have to have him on again and try to get more in depth on how options fundamentally drive the market and how options actually function to physically affect the movement of price and price action on our charts. Great episode.
I couldn’t agree more! You have truly understood what’s happening in this episode! I will definitely try my best!
I was thinking the exact same thing regarding your second sentence. You could see the mental gears turning as he tried to articulate his thoughts. This was a great interview.
Agree, been learning a lot about positioning in the options chain last half year and everything Cem said in this video is making my brain orgasm. Thanks!
YES! This is the stuff I live for.
Market Micromechanics, option orderflow, second order greeks, my GOD this guy know what he's talking about.
GREAT guest Riz. Extremely competent and humble.
Favourite podcast yet.
Andrea! Thank you for your support. An incredible episode for sure, hope people take the time for the necessary in depth research🫡
yes!!!
Thank you, Riz, for creating this amazing opportunity with Cem Karsan. The level of knowledge shared here is outstanding, especially for retail traders looking to expand their understanding. Cem’s ability to simplify complex topics is exceptional-he truly makes learning accessible. This podcast is pure gold!
Love to hear that! Cem did an amazing job and all credit to him for participating in this podcast and sharing such insights for everyone to learn!
Thanks for bringing in real live traders , not social media influencers
So much more to come!
Thank God. No more charlatan...
This
Thanks Riz for getting real experienced veterans vs influencer fake course seller traders. Big improvement!
Plenty more to come! Have podcasts with verified guests considered the best in the world
And to think, there's retail traders out there right now drawing rectangles around candlesticks, calling moves "turtle soup", referring to themselves as "smart money", and claiming they "trade like banks". Yet we have this gentleman on this episode breaking down the market to a science.
There's levels to this ladies and gentlemen, never forget that.
💯💯💯!!!
Thank you for tuning in🙏🏽
Loved this episode and the inside view on options.
This is how i talk when people ask me what I do for a living
😆😆😆
Exactly
Same here, little do they know - I am in the memecoin trenches getting rugged most of the time
@@1312Mork2 lmao
It is mind blowing to think technical analysis is secondary to options flows and positioning but it does make sense having heard that the options market is much more active than the traditional stock market
Indeed! Specially when Cem explained it more like a new technology it makes perfect sense
Love the changes you made with regards to your guests. Exciting stuff!
Love to hear that. We have many more to come I can assure you of that!
One of my favourite pods!
Thank you for this one
🔥
Love to hear it! Let’s goooo! 🔥🔥🔥
keep posting brother you are doing great job !👏🏻
Thank you🙏🏽
what a listen, best one to date
Fascinating conversation! Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it🫡
Thank you for bringing Ken Carson on
It was my honour to host Cem! Far out of my depths but hope we provided as much value as possible
Influencer to Underdogs to legends... RIZ has grown so have we...Thanks you RIZ
This guy is a world class, understanding technical analysis alone can help u, but u won't well without much understanding of the market structure flow and how distribution are made and when likely.
Thank you for tuning in🫡
We all needed this
Indeed such an in depth options masterclass!
Thanks for an excellent episode. Im sure many would like to know what learning resources Cem could recommend to learn the 'how' of what he does. Is it as straightforward as Hull or Natenburg plus experience? What more? 🙏
I'm sorry but yet again there is a lot of woo woo and how amazing is THEIR understanding of the materket but literally zero actionable info helping others do the same.
Not at all, he’s being very specific actually just it’s very complexed the concepts that he’s talking about. Specifically he’s talking about expirations, liquidity, statistical probability, the flow of orders between buyers and sellers and macroeconomics.
@@wordsofrizdom He is being very broad and vague. Definitely not specific - as you can see from the comments.
@wordsofrizdom yeah but we heard this stuff over and over from his interviews which is always great but you have to rely on his analysis and we're never in a better position to do this ourselves, I realise its a complicated field but most of the time its far too generic and vague for anyone that would like to implement a similar system.
not to take anything from your interview btw, I always like to hear him speak and loved the way you approached it, so thanks for that!
It's not meant to be actionable. Otherwise he loses his edge.
He has NO OBLIGATION TO ANYONE to share ANYTHING what has value. If you want such valuable information work on it yourself, find it yourself, program it yourself, learn how to interpret it yourself, etc...
I have made such a system myself: analysis and visualization. It is a lot of work.
Very interesting! Also, brother Riz pls take care of your health!
Definitely that’s my focus for this year! The tour has been incredible but very draining but we are through it now!
hey man just wanted to give you props for asking the right questions.
Thank you🫡
A lot of talking without really saying anything
Annoyed I fell for the whole ‘secret algorithm’ story but thankful the truth always prevails 🙏🏼
It’s okay many people have but it’s time for change!
This is one of those guys who can say things for an hour but says things for a minute.
Yes if he had the real time I have no doubt he could expand into even more detail
God bless you, Riz. This one is for the Options guys. I'm not an options guy but I really appreciate that you're letting traders of all asset classes eat well this year. Definetely one of the finer episodes, brother.
Love to hear that! That is the aim and goal, we are working extremely hard to bring the very best! Your support means a lot 🙏🏽
Wow, this was mindblowing. Gonna rewatch and take notes :O
Definitely, you'll get the most form rewatching and taking as many notes as possible!
For those complaining how there is "nothing actionable" it's likely you're earlier along the trading journey that this is almost meaningl6. Most people simply buy calls or puts, but options are actually highly dynamic positioning instruments to bet on probable events. His main point is (1) understand how options work along a probability surface, (2) options flows drive the market, and (3) think in terms of a probability surface (trader psychology), so by gaining a deeper understanding of that, you can derive a sense of where money is flowing and to capture some of that flow for yourself.
Thank you for your comment, yes I believe many just aren’t ready YET for this conversation. However, my hope is that this pushes many to level up their understanding of options trading and the opportunities it brings!
Great interview!
Thank you for watching!
Gem podcast....🎉 Basically all your podcast from past 2 months are mind blowing....so much Learning ❤.....thanks 🙏 for your Efforts
Not a single useful thing in this episode. Mostly generalized, vague and high level discussion.
Maybe you’re just not ready to try and learn what is being said. Not only is it super specific and informative but very actionable as well!
@ ok name one thing that was super specific and/or actionable for retail traders that watch this (not doubting the knowledge and experience of the guest, just question it from the perspective of the retail crowd, like myself, that watches this) - I accept maybe the comment came across as being overly harsh, but that wasn’t the intention.
After 30 mins.. Am still thinking if he is talking in English or not 😂😂😂😂
Thanks reads this then switched off anger 2 mins, thank you for saving me an hour my friend. People’s ego make them talk but provide nothing
Man…, we are not worthy !! This conversation is life changing!!
Thank you for tuning in! 🙏🏽
Perfect, thank you, thank you for your existence and appearance.
Thank you for tuning in🫡
Very interesting one..got alot to research on now
Thank you! All the best with your research🫡🙏🏽
This is a masterpiece
Awesome info given
Real traders with real infos 🔥 🔥
Keep going ❤
Thank you 🫡
Given the clear implications of the 4th order Volga, it's undeniable we're firmly entrenched in a negative GEX regime. But what most fail to appreciate is how this shifts the gamma profile into a self-reinforcing convexity loop, driving dealer hedging activity toward a liquidity vacuum. It's not just bearish-it's a cascading flow dynamic poised to accelerate downside velocity. But hey, keep buying the dip, right?"
Darius Dale and Michael Howell, are the two other guys I put up there with Cem... maybe you could land an interview with them one day.
I will try my best that’s for sure
Best trading pod , Larry Williams would be a great guest
Will do my best to make it happen🙏🏽
does normal intaday stock value is related to options and futures
This is free on TH-cam 😮 🎉....amazing Learning Podcast ❤
Great pod!
Thank you brother! Appreciate your support always 👊💙
Agree 100%. Long live Market Micromechanics
Obviously They have big advantage over Technical Analysis Traders .
Proffesionals always talk in 2nd order derivatives what a podcast it gave me so many food for thoughts to play with esp Greeks
Thnz Riz for bringing such an intelligent species
Thank you for tuning in! Glad you enjoyed it🫡
Finally a trader with wisdom and knowledge who isn’t just yoloing evals.
Thank you for watching🙏🏽
Fascinating guy. Hopefully next time you drive into very specific questions and more detailed explanations.
What would you like me to ask next time?
If I were to be tested with this lecture I would receive a very low score. Question, would having a fuller understanding of Options Trading give me more of an edge Future Trading? Appreciate what you are doing here Sir Riz!
good job thanks
Thank you for tuning in🙏🏽
We need more people talking about binary options
One of the best podcasts ive ever scene (and ive seen/heard a few)
Seen*
Thank you Geoff🫡
@@kkostadinof LOL yep thanks!
Wonderful as always 💫
Priceless knowledge gained from this Pod....
Riz u never fail to deliver the best ❤
Thank you🫡
Trend line traders will be lost on this one.
A lot to learn for sure! Many will feel completely lost and that’s OK. I’d suggest to watch several times, take notes & research🙏🏽
@@wordsofrizdomAbsolutely,this is PHD level of understanding. Lol
😂😂😂
😅😅
"I told you so..."😂😂
I found this video to be exceptionally insightful and profoundly thought-provoking, as it presents its message in a way that is both engaging and deeply impactful. The creator's ability to communicate such meaningful ideas with clarity, creativity, and a sense of purpose truly resonated with me. I was particularly impressed by the attention to detail and the thoughtful approach taken to ensure the message was not only conveyed effectively but also left a lasting impression. It’s rare to come across content that strikes such a perfect balance between inspiration and practical wisdom, and I genuinely appreciate the effort and passion that went into producing this remarkable piece. This video has not only motivated me to reflect more deeply on its central themes but has also encouraged me to take action in applying its lessons to my own life. 🎉🎉
Thank you for tuning in! What was your biggest takeaway from the episode?
I found the section on charm, vanna and delta the most informative. Here is how I understand it could be used.
Option dealers who sell options want to avoid the risk of unlimited losses so they hedge their positions with delta hedging.
If they sell you 100 put options with delta=-0.5 they need to short 50 units of the underlying asset as a hedge.
The problem is that delta does not stay constant (i.e. for put options it moves between 0 and -1 and for call options between 0 and 1), so the dealers need to re-adjust the hedge based on how the delta changes.
"Charm" measures how delta changes as the option moves towards maturity (the delta of out-of-the-money options basically moves to zero as the time to maturity decreases, while for in-the-money options it moves to 1 for calls and to -1 for puts).
"Vanna" measures how delta changes when expected volatility changes (for out-of-the-money options it holds that higher volatility results in higher deltas and lower volatility in lower lower deltas).
"Gamma" measures how delta changes when the underlying asset price moves (when price goes up the delta of call options increases and the delta of put options decreases).
Knowing this allows you to predict what transactions in the underlying asset option dealers need to make in order to re-hedge their exposure.
If they sold 100 put options with delta=-0.5 and hedged them with short 50 units of the underlying and the delta then changes to -0.25, the option dealer needs to buy 25 units of the underlying to re-adjust the hedge (i.e. be 25 units short).
Option dealers typically make these transactions at specific times of the day, which allows you to predict how they will move the price by comparing the estimated volume of transactions they need to make with the expected liquidity at that time of the day (i.e. estimating the market impact of these transactions).
Example of an actionable idea would be as follows:
(1) You observe very high open interest in slightly out-of-the-money options that are close to maturity
(2) The market makes a positive overnight move so that the price opens higher with lower implied volatility
(3) As the options moved closer to maturity (charm), price moved up (gamma) and volatility decreased (vanna), the delta of the out-of-the-money puts moved closer to zero (from some non-zero negative value), so the option dealers will need to start buying the asset to decrease their short position and thus re-adjust the hedge.
(4) As long as the amount of their purchases (which you can approximately calculate) is relatively high compared to the liquidity on that market during that time of the day, you can expect they will push the price up, so you can buy the asset beforehead and speculate on the up move.
Im i the only person that watched this several times, his language makes sense to me💥
Thank you for tuning in - Complex but value packed for sure🫡
You should interview Neoh Young very good trader
I’ll have to check them out thank you
Dang I want a TradeZella hoodie. AY YO UMAR! Merch store plz
TradeZella Merch sounds like a plan! 🔥
Yo member i said our time will come, long story the journey is getting interesting
Love to hear it! Stay on it 🔥
Why did he say you can only hedge 0DTE options with 0DTE options? Why not underlying or futures?
Maybe he’s just focused on the options side of things, a great follow up question no doubt!
Recommendations where we can learn more about options?
Big time Trader
🙏🏽
Am I the only one not able to find the actual gap they are talking about?
It’s the gap formed after election results on the S&P
Im not sure what people expect from these podcast, a full out course step by step strategy on how to get 100% win rate? It doesnt work like that thats the point. If he started laying out all of the details on how to predict and connect stuff this video would be longs tens of hours probably. Cause its not as easy as saying find a support level and take a long lol. Analysis like his takes time and patience and lots of probabilistic thinking etc
It’s a very true statement! I think some want every single ounce of knowledge a guest has, which I understand why BUT as you perfectly said it’s limited time and to take 27 years of trading experience and try to bundle into a very short segment is near impossible but our guests do an amazing job of it that’s for sure b
@@wordsofrizdom the way he presents his approach sounds veryyy complicated, Im not sure I even want to dive as deep as he does. Maybe in a few months or years. For now Ill stick to my simple futures contracts haha. Im not sure most of the people are even capable of such analysis and diving that deep into market mechanics because this is more than just buying and selling volume. This is reading the reason behind market’s sentiment by reading the data from the global level. Thats how I view it from what he said. Comparable to rocket science almost haha
@@wordsofrizdom also regarding podcasts in general. If it werent for some other podcast I probably wouldve never changed my approach to trading. Why? Because I would simply never search for a different approach because I wouldnt even know what to search for. That particular podcast episode gave me an opportunity to hear about some other trader’s view of the market, market/price mechanics. As hes an expert he of course did an excellent job explaining it vaguely on the podcast, just enough that I started questioning what he is talking about. Found his channel and watched his free course three times. Then it opened more questions and started exploring articles and forums about certain topics and in just a few weeks my view on trading and price action and just about everything has changed dramatically. At first it seemed more complicated but I soon realised its all so simple because its the reality of any kind of market really. If its true its logical and whats logical is to understand.
So ye. Podcasts are actually a great great start to exploring new worlds in just about any industry because they you give us the opportunity to hear about things we had never heard before
I understand the concept of what he's talking about but, there is little chance of me ever being able to put any of this into a trade with out the data he has available, I'll just keep trading the noise in the futures market
Q: where should the retail trader start? A: there is so much information out there, but of course we are the best. Ok, moving on.
Remember when Cem would post ES levels on Twitter. I do. Thanks, Cem.
Thank you for tuning in🙏🏽
Me explaining trading to an 80 years old in my village 😂
KEN CARSON
I´d never commented before, but this time I´ll give 5Star rating. I´ve no doubt that this guy describe alpha which couldn´t be found somewhere but in this interview. And also thz alot for WOW.🎉
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Old veterans know much better. Not some Kojo Fx lifestyle video
good
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Matteo La Rosa next
Will definitely check him out!
Love how everyone try’s to make the market so complicated. When at the end of the day it just goes straight up lmao
Do retail traders need to understand what's gamma and Vanna is
nothing interesting 😞
Finally a real trader. Cem is the only trader on this channel worth listening to 😂 everyone else is noise. Volatility affects everyone's P&L, options are the underlying not the derivative. Options move markets not technical analysis or any indicators lol this is big boys stuff. Get ready to get humbled all you fake traders/course sellers 😂😂
Trendline hurts 🤕 in this Video , Order Flows are out of Syllabus for me 😅...
I want see how Cem structures/visualizes his data over time.
Is he trading spreads?
I’m sorry but the broadcast was meant to say things to help us we retail traders. He’s saying a lot from a great prospective but without given any specific information or some kind of way, no disrespect to him but could have helped us more
54:13 What does "Long Put, Short Call" mean? It doesn't make sense.
Selling options
got to be careful here - cem definitely knowledgeable. The man manages client money in three different funds, all three of them lost money in 2024 though!
Ouch that hurts. Sometimes the smartest ones performs the worst
I love the podcast and guests and content. But I absolutely HATE that you ask a question and FOLLOW IT with an ad. It’s insane. At least move it to the end of the guest talking before you ask the next question. Drives me absolutely bonkers.
I don't know whether i don't understand English or what because i didn't hear anything here😭
It’s probably the most complexed options podcast available
from what I have seen he is a better talker than investor. the returns of his funds I found were lacking.
This guy speaks very broadly. Nothing specific. Condescending body language.
You need to listen better
Riz riz riz 🎉🎉
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i would like to be in contact with this guy, am pretty accurate in determining price direction either short term inter term and long term, currently working with a US private investor in providing those technicals on all assert classes, am looking to grow and perheps feed a larger institution or investors the kind of consistent market insights i provide.
How Can I dm you sir ? I’ll have a few questions for you
Best to reach out to his team!
How do you trade sir?
I mean your approach?
@@unknowndaytrader yes i do, my approach is quit different from what i see out there hence am reaching out, it has a touch of ICT however unique in how i dertemine direction almost accurate in most cases, if you like you can observe my analysis for a week then we can talk after seeing first hand my approach, am sure youll be convinced
@ thanks Riz once again great show brother, i`ll see if i can thank you
Nah... i don't buy it! 😂
All I hear ...blah, blah, blah... just tell us where did you park time machine? 😅
The Time Machine is in the markets 😉
"Biggest trading podcast in the world" made me laugh..
Name a bigger podcast in trading?
Is it just me, or does this guy kinda look and speak as Simon Sinek?
Literally what I was thinking the entire interview 🤣 great guy to have as a comparison 🔥
I’m completely lost
Asslam o Alaikum Brother I really enjoying your Show, but could you please give me the last Traders book name or any contacts info
Thanks alot and best of luck, our support is with you
All of General Nothings
I’m sure this guy is dropping gems, but I am too stupid to understand it.
Not to stupid just not got the insights, experience or knowledge right now! That will change thanks to the insights here and further research afterwards 🔥
this guy is great. every word is gold swear down
Glad you enjoyed the episode🙏🏽
After 30 mins.. Am still thinking if he is talking in English or not 😂😂😂😂
He is just generalizing, almost beating around the bush
Not at all, he’s being very specific actually just it’s very complexed the concepts that he’s talking about. Specifically he’s talking about expectations, liquidity, statistical probability, the flow of orders between buyers and sellers and macroeconomics.
Yes but there is so much to learn from what he is saying on so many levels. Watch it again and again. Keep in mind that at the end of the day he's a market maker (they have a bro or sis code)
and at a very basic level, market makers have to take your money, not give it to you.
@@GeoffGroves I will watch it again
@@Developingstudent Liquidity! Imagine having a boat you want to sell in an auction on ebay. You need to sell your boat for the most money you can and you only have 3 days to sell it. The harbor where you keep your boat is subject to 6 foot of tide swell. You want to make your boat look really great. Would you take the pictures when there is no liquid under the boat and its laying in the weeds or would you take the pictures of your boat when the harbor is at high tide and there is lots of liquid under your boat?
So he's a multi billionaire? Why not?
That's too short.
My god the most boring one yet😂
you’d have to be at this level to understand and appreciate this knowledge bomb 💣