Dave once claimed that Roman is faking leukemia just to get sympathy , and also claimed that leukemia is not serious, that should tell you what kind of a person Dave is
I don’t listen to a thing Dave has to say, never did but I do think faking leukemia was how to get Roman over and then later to switch heel but it’s whatever it’s just scripted tv, a show to be watched 😂🤷🏽♂️
@@mohammadbashammakh he really did that? Holy shyte what a scum bag. This guy is legit a goof. He's what we call in jail fresh fish because he's such a low life he's thought of the same way you treat a fish. No one feels bad when a fish gets hooked.
Dutch also said “if you’re gonna comment like that why not talk about Tony’s humanity and how, despite being criticized, Tony still donated to the cause.”
that's because Dutch is a normal down to earth human being who understands how to market. Dave is a 60 yr old child who is completely oblivious about himself or the harm he could be doing to the very people he's trying to help.
Well, Dave doesn’t have to publicize Corny’s selfless charity because you just did and it’s listed on the fundraiser and has been mentioned by numerous Podcasts and bloggers. How much would be raised if the donor’s names were not included?
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 Who cares if anyone gets kudos for being generous. As long as people who need help get helped, I don't care. The ones usually throwing that out there are mostly people who never do anything for anyone else.
Was that the video where Meltzer talked for 20 minutes about how he judges the scores and it was a complete mess and made the ratings sound utterly pointless?
@@jamesmaskell3743yeah because CVV pointed out the disparity between 5star matches in New Japan and AEW Vs WWE and TNA and also that Kurt Angle doesn't have any 5star matches which is idiotic
Because a man and his wife are sick and need help. If Dave had been successful with his "attack" and caused them to not be able to afford their hospital visits then ...
@@EmoEmu Your words make little sense. Meltzer is largely irrelevant, a sad punchline, to a large chunk of the pro wrestling adult audience. Most of the overall audience is vaguely familiar with his name. So please explain how he would impact Mantell’s medical stuff.
It's amazing. What Dave does with the positive spin on AEW, he would do negatively with WWE. When I used to listen to him, he'd say a criticism like the matches on Raw were short. The next week, the matches would be longer, he'd said they were too long. The week after, the matches would be perfectly timed, then he'd say there weren't enough promos. He constantly changes the goalposts.
Meltzer also ignored Jim Cornette. Dutch Confirmed that Cornette donated an equal amount to Khan. Both donated 5k. Jericho got a shout out for 1.5k, Cornette gets ignored for his 5k.
I am a huge supporter of aew and I am also an adult; I'm saying I love to listen in to Dutch and can get passed any "shots" fired at aew. They're generally fair criticisms. Tbf I have also never gave a shit about Dave or ratings, specifically his styling of ratings, to begin with. 💯
@ I believe “adult” is a subjective concept. I ran a PI agency for over 20 years and would get resumes (for lack of a better term) several times a week. Age did not factor into the fact that some people are just not very sharp about the absolute basics of grammar and spelling. Yet every single person would claim, “Excellent communication skills, in writing and verbal.” Dave falls into the category of degrees dingbats. My dad called those folks educated idiots. Meltzer just blurts out the dumbest stuff at times.
Dutch im hoping the best for you, your wife and your family. Im sorry dave had to make a bad situation worse for no reason and hope you are well. This thumbnail is hands down the funniest thumbnail ive seen on youtube in ages so thank you for the laughs.
It's quite clear to me that Dave Meltzer is being told what to report about AEW's business. There isn't a chance at all that he would know that information. I mean JON MOXLEY just came out and said that AEW isn't in a good place! Moxley would know way more than Meltzer.
Stuff like this is how you can tell Meltzer doesn’t have a lot of real world experience talking to actual people. This is the kind of edgy, tone deaf take you’d expect from a teenager posting from their basement.
Dave is a Below Average Fan while Mike Sanders is an Above Average Fan. I like how Randy Orton took Above Average Mike Sander' finishing move, the 3.0, and made it one of his regular moves.
Podcasts critique the product and what's funny is that's Dave's only purpose is to critique the product and not only does he refuse to do it now he's calling out Dutch for doing the job Dave refuses to do.
I could see Dave at the old ECW arena standing in the balcony as the ECW original crowd is chanting "You f**ked up, you f**ked up, you f**ked up ....." as Dutch throws him over the railing and as Dave goes through 4 stacked tables the ghost of New Jack appears nodding in approval ......
Meltzer upon delivery from the stork: (Stork): Choose one, young Meltzer. There is no way you will be able to pull off both....... An award-winning wrestling writer or a compassionate human being? (Young Meltzer): What the heck is that second thing?
K100 can be such a great show when you guys actually do something crazy like, TALK on the show. This back and forth is how literally every single email reply should be.
Dave has done so many stupid things over years: actively going out of his way to spoil WWE shows, create COMPLETELY fake stories, stay up for 24 hours arguing with AEW critics online... but this is officially his lowest point.
I think his dad must have been exposed to lead paint or something. Dave definitely comes off as one who has swallowed too much toothpaste and lived beneath the power lines.
I criticise them a lot because I know they can be so much better. I don't see them hitting a million, but the current numbers are far below what they should be doing.
He THRIVED in a pre internet world. No fact checking, nothing but his version. But, his versions USED to just cover the matches/story's. THEN he figured out the politics and got buddies and they ALL like to smell their own farts. And then talk about the farts among each other, and even RATE said farts😅😂😅. Thankfully THAT time is over and dead. Then being dumb enough to think ur are okay to just blast people WITHOUT actual repercussions.... Aka shite just got real in LA LA Land😅😂😅
Yeah, you’re going overboard with that one. Dave’s an idiot, for sure. Mantell, in spite of his faults and the worst of his host, hasn’t really made anything personal about AEW. Dave is just so ate up with desperation that he conducts himself as though he has a personal stake in AEW. But again - your leap is no better than Meltzer’s idiocy.
Dave is the same guy that said Kenny Omega's illness was worse than Brock's even though Brock had to have the same surgery Omega did, almost died and took years to get back into something close to what he was physically before he got sick.
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Didn't he just do an angle at New Japan show? My point isn't that Omega's diverticulitis isn't serious or Dave shouldn't have reported that it wasn't. It's that he made the comment that it was the most serious case of Diverticulitis ever.
That’s exactly what he did, and I’ll bet Matty and Nicky helped put that idea in his head since he’s obsessed with defending those two twerps, and those two wrestling legend hating little durfwads are exactly the kind of phoney “Christian” hypocrites who’d pull this crap with others livelihoods.
As critical of Tony Khan as I’ve been on here, it’s never been directed towards him as a person and has always been me criticizing Tony as a booker, promoter and his management style as a boss. I’ve always known that Tony Khan is genuinely a really good guy, with a good heart, that is caring and always means well, who is also truly loved by many of the ppl that work for him in AEW. So it didn’t surprise me whatsoever that Tony donated 5 grand to help good ole Dutch out because that’s just who he really is as a person and it’s wonderful to see that kind of humanity in the wrestling business. As far as Meltzer goes, I am now ashamed that I used to respect him as a journalist and ever subscribed to his newsletter too. Seriously, I don’t know WTF has happened to Dave, but what he wrote about Dutch was absolutely f**king pathetic and disgraceful. It was just as bad as what that POS Bruce Mitchell wrote days after Brodie Lee’s death, basically accusing his poor widow of not being truthful about her late husband’s health issues and Dave actually did a interview for his site with Bruce Mitchell not long after that. However, as soon as that interview was uploaded to Dave’s website, it had to be taken down because even his own subscribers were f**king disgusted with him for interviewing Bruce Mitchell to begin with after what that POS wrote about Brodie Lee. So I’m not really surprised by anything Dave does anymore because whenever he’s reported multiple things just this year alone that turned out to be straight up BS. Dave just acts like none of those things ever happened and continues being his usual condescending, ignorant, know it all prick self on Twitter everyday.
Dave Meltzer was much more effective as a liar before the arrival of search engines and fact-checking. These days, he is just a daily meme for how a hack reporter operates. It's fascinating to watch it in real time. He's like the niche-wrestling version of Amber Heard. He's such a narcissistic sociopath that he simply can't bring himself to apologize or retract a report or hear criticism.
Did it even occur to Meltzer that Tony Khan, a self-acknowledged "fan" of old school wrestling, gave to Dutch's gofundme cos he's a fan of Dutch's from way back when??? Meltzer needs to stay in his lane before he loses what's left of his credibility.
Dave and the Observer no longer have substantial sources within WWE, so they rely heavily on AEW for content and inside scoops. Since the AEW product is ice cold right now, Dave is doing whatever he can to deflect the lack of success- including discussing revenue in an article about Dutch’s health. With WWE being the hottest it’s been in decades, the Observer is becoming less relevant in “wrestling journalism”.
Dave is spreading the new propaganda line from aew fans … Suddenly the things they praised like full buildings, good ratings & ppv numbers no longer matter so any person pointing out their failings don’t have a point r understand the business But there’s a giant flaw in that logic If they’re only interested in keeping wbd happy for renewals… then they need buzz, full arenas for filming weekly tv & high viewership so the network can capitalise on advertisers… the points were judging them by
I love the argument that they'll be making money next year with their Discovery Warner. That deal I've heard comes to 180 million each year I think..... Star Wars the Acolyte cost 180 million and look at how product looked and ultimately did, it looked terrible and was canceled in one season. A near 200 million dollar budget isn't that impressive anymore these days.
If Tony Khan has a backbone, he would publicly ask Dave Meltzer to stop talking about AEW, it only ever has the reverse effect. Tony won't do it of course, he'll take any and all praise that he can get
@@philwalsh8975 I did read it. You want him to tell Meltzer to stop talking about AEW, a ridiculous notion, then say Tony will take all the praise he can get. So as I said above, you managed to turn this story about Tony giving money to a big critic of his into hating on Tony.
All we keep hearing they are going to make all this profit next year. I got a feeling this tune next year when asked about profits we will here it’s a private company
While just as disgusting, I bet Dave's intent wasn't necessarily to shame Dutch but to praise Tony Khan and Chris Jericho for donating to someone who had been critical of them. That's why he named them but left out Jim Cornette who donated as much as Khan and more than Jericho when pointing out the biggest donators. I just hope Dave's ready for the same treatment when he has some serious health issues because he earned it with this shitty behavior.
Kind of a stupid thumbnail when Tony Khan is trying to help the community in any way he can. He's donated to Kevin Sullivan and now Dutch Mantell. This man dropped 10 G's on two absolute legends of the biz, while everybody continues to criticize him. That not only takes heart, but it also says a lot of Tony Khan and the pro wrestling community as a whole.
Most people aren't criticising him as a person they are criticising his booking. The two aren't the same thing, just because Tony is a nice and generous person doesn't mean he is exempt from criticism professionally.
If tony khan donated 5k then it seems he doesn’t have a problem with Dutch’s criticism then why should meltzer? People like ragging on TK but he didn’t have to send him any money if he didn’t want to…. And Dutch never worked for him…. I hope the WWE did something as well…
Why does anyone care about what Meltzer thinks these days. He's given star ratings to Japanese matches that he's never seen. Pre-internet he would rate matches the same day or the day after they happened, despite not having seen it. He had "people in Japan who knew his standards write reviews for him" and they wrote up a review and faxed it to him. He's a scam artist, has been for years.
WBD is so last year, like literally. Hogwarts Legacy last game from them to make money, and according to Google, Barbie was the last movie from them that made money. Both just happen to be 2023. 2024 on the other hand, they've been losing money left and right. Kinda fitting they're working with AEW. 😉😂🤣
How much money would be raised if all donations were made by Anonymous? I keep seeing people heralding the donations from well known folks connected to Mantell and the random fans in the YT comments who want to make sure everyone knows, “I donated X.”
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 bringing up hypotheticals doesn’t prove anything 🤷🏾♂️ just because you have a bad view of the world doesn’t mean there aren’t selfless people out there, get a life 🥱
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DISCO INFERNO reacts to DAVE MELTZER accusing BUSTED OPEN RADIO of being WWE shills th-cam.com/video/nqEj9-Xb9Yk/w-d-xo.html
Kermit inferno
to this day, almost a YEAR later, Dave Meltzer has still refused to report on or at least acknowledge the Chris Jericho drama with that lady.
cuz it never existed? if it was real , the media will be around like he was vince mcmahon
Well Chris and Dave are friendly with each other. It is no secret Jericho was one of the guys giving Dave info when he was in WWE
Well, where's the proof? Nobody showed us an NDA document 🤷♀️
@@criminalmindsgirl2936 the fact that she publicly stated she LEGALLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT ME means that a NDA exists.
@@criminalmindsgirl2936 Go learn what vowels are
"FAAK THE DAVE MELTZER!"
- Iron Sheik from beyond the grave
I agree
This ☝️☝️🫡
"DA SHEIK WULD FAAKEM DAVE IN HIS STUPID AIS!"
Dave once claimed that Roman is faking leukemia just to get sympathy , and also claimed that leukemia is not serious, that should tell you what kind of a person Dave is
i dont know why people still support Meltzer after that.
The Alex Jones of wrasslin....
@@aceloco817Jones had the White Paper!
I don’t listen to a thing Dave has to say, never did but I do think faking leukemia was how to get Roman over and then later to switch heel but it’s whatever it’s just scripted tv, a show to be watched 😂🤷🏽♂️
@@mohammadbashammakh he really did that? Holy shyte what a scum bag. This guy is legit a goof. He's what we call in jail fresh fish because he's such a low life he's thought of the same way you treat a fish. No one feels bad when a fish gets hooked.
Were just day's away from Corny droppin his diss tack on Dave 😂
For once Jim....I don't find you tiresome
Chomp chomp buck chomp
Thankth Dave, chomp chomp for taking Cornette’s ire off of me chomp buck chomp chomp..
Kevin Dunn probably.
Dutch also said “if you’re gonna comment like that why not talk about Tony’s humanity and how, despite being criticized, Tony still donated to the cause.”
that's because Dutch is a normal down to earth human being who understands how to market. Dave is a 60 yr old child who is completely oblivious about himself or the harm he could be doing to the very people he's trying to help.
Dave is an internet troll. If you saw him in person, he wouldn't have the same energy
100% spot on. He is a person from the comment section, except he has a big platform.
I dunno, Dave looks like he has short bus strength……
My thoughts & prayers go out to Dutch & his family. This is a private matter. Best wishes to the Mantells
Cornette donated 5k too but doubt that Uncle Dave would point that out
Well, Dave doesn’t have to publicize Corny’s selfless charity because you just did and it’s listed on the fundraiser and has been mentioned by numerous Podcasts and bloggers. How much would be raised if the donor’s names were not included?
@@ithinkaboutthings9052Bro find a better use of your time
He didn't point it out, actually. He reported Tony Khan and Jericho as top donors, even though Cornette $5000 like Khan and not $1500 like Jericho.
@ Why does Meltzer or anyone else think it’s necessary, decent or charitable to publicize who gave what?
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 Who cares if anyone gets kudos for being generous. As long as people who need help get helped, I don't care. The ones usually throwing that out there are mostly people who never do anything for anyone else.
Chris Van Vliet totally exposed Dave in the interview he did with him. Ever since that interview everybody realized how biased his "star ratings" are.
Was that the video where Meltzer talked for 20 minutes about how he judges the scores and it was a complete mess and made the ratings sound utterly pointless?
@@jamesmaskell3743yeah because CVV pointed out the disparity between 5star matches in New Japan and AEW Vs WWE and TNA and also that Kurt Angle doesn't have any 5star matches which is idiotic
There is almost no way that Dave Meltzer would agree to do an interview with Steve Blackman, Ken Shamrock, or Dan Severn.
@roccojamison89gooker51 To play DA, it's difficult to rate an attempted murder a 5 star classic.
Dave Meltzer will soon learn about karma , mark my word
What do you have planned, Mohammed?
Yeah, Cos Corny's rant on dis is gna drop soon
Karma never forgets an address
@@pearcemark2why ask me ? I’m not karma
No one more deserves a bite in butt from karma than Meltzer
When TNA overtakes dynamite ole uncle Dave will really lose his shit 😂
In 2024, I can not understand why anyone cares what Meltzer says.
Amen! 👋
Because a man and his wife are sick and need help. If Dave had been successful with his "attack" and caused them to not be able to afford their hospital visits then ...
Exactly
@@EmoEmu Your words make little sense. Meltzer is largely irrelevant, a sad punchline, to a large chunk of the pro wrestling adult audience. Most of the overall audience is vaguely familiar with his name. So please explain how he would impact Mantell’s medical stuff.
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 That's why the guy used the word "IF".
Reading comprehension is amazing, guy.
This was honestly the lowest of the low. This was absolutely uncalled for. Shame on Dave, do better dude.
it's a pathetic thing to do. When talking about real life, talking about wrestling shouldn't even matter.
Dave Meltzer has no shame to begin with
Actually, making 🪩🐸 sit out of the show, just to get an interview is pretty low.
It's definitely the low for this show.
Ha.
All I know is Corny better never get sick.
If he does, expect that pissing on Russo’s grave to become pissing on Russo himself!
dutch should sue meltzer for disclosing him and his wifes personal medical info
It's amazing. What Dave does with the positive spin on AEW, he would do negatively with WWE. When I used to listen to him, he'd say a criticism like the matches on Raw were short. The next week, the matches would be longer, he'd said they were too long. The week after, the matches would be perfectly timed, then he'd say there weren't enough promos. He constantly changes the goalposts.
Probably because TNA/WCW were the targets when you were listening to him
Meltzer also ignored Jim Cornette. Dutch Confirmed that Cornette donated an equal amount to Khan. Both donated 5k. Jericho got a shout out for 1.5k, Cornette gets ignored for his 5k.
I am a huge supporter of aew and I am also an adult; I'm saying I love to listen in to Dutch and can get passed any "shots" fired at aew. They're generally fair criticisms.
Tbf I have also never gave a shit about Dave or ratings, specifically his styling of ratings, to begin with.
💯
Absolutely. Yes, Dutch and James are critical but it's not done in spite.
'tangentially' was kicking y'all's ass for a lil bit
If they can’t pronounce it, they definitely don’t know its meaning.
I was laughing so hard, I had to keep rewinding.
Sometimes you forget how dumb most adults are
@ I believe “adult” is a subjective concept. I ran a PI agency for over 20 years and would get resumes (for lack of a better term) several times a week. Age did not factor into the fact that some people are just not very sharp about the absolute basics of grammar and spelling. Yet every single person would claim, “Excellent communication skills, in writing and verbal.” Dave falls into the category of degrees dingbats. My dad called those folks educated idiots. Meltzer just blurts out the dumbest stuff at times.
Tangentially! TANGENTIALLY WITH A CHAIR BAH GAWD!!
Love the Meltzer Kahn hug 😂😂 Might be a t-shirt 🤪😂
That was clutch for Tony... I've give him that
This video had everything. Emotions, opinions and even a word of the day.
Dutch im hoping the best for you, your wife and your family. Im sorry dave had to make a bad situation worse for no reason and hope you are well. This thumbnail is hands down the funniest thumbnail ive seen on youtube in ages so thank you for the laughs.
Even if Dave M donated now, his good deed didn't go unpunished.
I know what you mean, it wouldn't feel right.
Good and Dave Meltzer doesn’t fit together in the same sentence
How much did he donate? I don't see it.
@ that’s because he didn’t
It's quite clear to me that Dave Meltzer is being told what to report about AEW's business. There isn't a chance at all that he would know that information. I mean JON MOXLEY just came out and said that AEW isn't in a good place!
Moxley would know way more than Meltzer.
Stuff like this is how you can tell Meltzer doesn’t have a lot of real world experience talking to actual people. This is the kind of edgy, tone deaf take you’d expect from a teenager posting from their basement.
Dave is your average wrestling fan.
Dave is a Below Average Fan while Mike Sanders is an Above Average Fan.
I like how Randy Orton took Above Average Mike Sander' finishing move, the 3.0, and made it one of his regular moves.
Podcasts critique the product and what's funny is that's Dave's only purpose is to critique the product and not only does he refuse to do it now he's calling out Dutch for doing the job Dave refuses to do.
Konnan better not be defending Dave after this bc there is no excuse to this at all
I could see Dave at the old ECW arena standing in the balcony as the ECW original crowd is chanting "You f**ked up, you f**ked up, you f**ked up ....." as Dutch throws him over the railing and as Dave goes through 4 stacked tables the ghost of New Jack appears nodding in approval ......
Why does anybody pay any attention to Meltzer? He's basically an internet troll making up stories for clickbait.
Meltzer upon delivery from the stork:
(Stork): Choose one, young Meltzer. There is no way you will be able to pull off both.......
An award-winning wrestling writer or a compassionate human being?
(Young Meltzer): What the heck is that second thing?
Awards?
K100 can be such a great show when you guys actually do something crazy like, TALK on the show. This back and forth is how literally every single email reply should be.
Dave has done so many stupid things over years: actively going out of his way to spoil WWE shows, create COMPLETELY fake stories, stay up for 24 hours arguing with AEW critics online... but this is officially his lowest point.
Disco being absolutely defeated by a 4 syllable word is maybe the funniest thing ever.
I think we can all agree - Tan-GENT-Tilly - that Dave is heel of the decade.
Daves always been a goofy
I think his dad must have been exposed to lead paint or something. Dave definitely comes off as one who has swallowed too much toothpaste and lived beneath the power lines.
Now you're insulting the Disney character Goofy
Damn disco nailed it
How much credibility does someone have to lose before people completely abandon support for them?
Tony can just stand up to Dave now and say that was out of line
How about instead of making 250mil... You take the critiques, address them, and make 500mil.
I criticise them a lot because I know they can be so much better. I don't see them hitting a million, but the current numbers are far below what they should be doing.
Dr. Evil: Why settle for billions when you can have millions?
@@jamesmaskell3743 They have a fucking stacked roster of talent that could be developed and elevated.
It's not even worth getting upset over. Meltzer is the most asinine AEW fanboy. The guy lost any credibility and stature a long time ago
dave just cant help himself - hes gotta white knight for tony khan at every opportunity, even when it has nothing to do with tony.
Don't mess with those Memohis boys, Cornette is going to unleash the vilest promo on Dave the world has ever seen.
Good for Tony, a good dude, Piss on Dave!
If its all about profit, why does Dave think Hulk was the worst worker in the world for 10 years.
MELTZER SAYS IM IN THE KEY DEMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why does Dave have to put his two cents in everything? He doesn’t matter sad cry for just attention.
Bahahaha that word three me off
Where is konan?
He THRIVED in a pre internet world. No fact checking, nothing but his version. But, his versions USED to just cover the matches/story's. THEN he figured out the politics and got buddies and they ALL like to smell their own farts. And then talk about the farts among each other, and even RATE said farts😅😂😅.
Thankfully THAT time is over and dead. Then being dumb enough to think ur are okay to just blast people WITHOUT actual repercussions.... Aka shite just got real in LA LA Land😅😂😅
Dutch said some mean things about Tonys show so obviously he should die according to dave
Yeah, you’re going overboard with that one. Dave’s an idiot, for sure. Mantell, in spite of his faults and the worst of his host, hasn’t really made anything personal about AEW. Dave is just so ate up with desperation that he conducts himself as though he has a personal stake in AEW. But again - your leap is no better than Meltzer’s idiocy.
@@ithinkaboutthings9052
You're obviously stupid
Tan-gent-uh-lee
Tan-gen-tuh-lee
Totally agree with Disco.
Dave is the same guy that said Kenny Omega's illness was worse than Brock's even though Brock had to have the same surgery Omega did, almost died and took years to get back into something close to what he was physically before he got sick.
what's the status of Omega's health?
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Didn't he just do an angle at New Japan show? My point isn't that Omega's diverticulitis isn't serious or Dave shouldn't have reported that it wasn't. It's that he made the comment that it was the most serious case of Diverticulitis ever.
Why the hate on Dutch from Dave, he critiques wrestling.......just like Dave!
You are making me agree with Disco?!
Dave gets minus 5 stars
Aew only worries about 5 stars matchs. Thats why they don’t draw. They had Cm punk but they kept Jack Perry.
How is it no one has ever Stosseled Meltzer??? Where is Dr Dave Shultz when you need him!?
how did that work out for Shultz though?
@ It’s the most infamous moment of his career 🤷🏻♂️ , but he definitely got hung out to dry by Vince (if what Shultz says is correct).
way to go Dave. try to publicly shame an old man going through some life threatening illnesses. stay classy.
Dave is the product of caring so much about wrestling that it takes over your life 24/7 but having very little actual talent
Smart bunch here, “tangentially.”
But “The VA is Wonderful!😃” 🤦🏾♂️
I'm not surprised this is a guy who has carved out a career spreading stories. He's a wrestling tabloid don't expect integrity, honesty or class.
Was Meltzer bringing it up to dissuade people from donating by reminding them of past AEW criticisms?
That’s exactly what he did, and I’ll bet Matty and Nicky helped put that idea in his head since he’s obsessed with defending those two twerps, and those two wrestling legend hating little durfwads are exactly the kind of phoney “Christian” hypocrites who’d pull this crap with others livelihoods.
As critical of Tony Khan as I’ve been on here, it’s never been directed towards him as a person and has always been me criticizing Tony as a booker, promoter and his management style as a boss. I’ve always known that Tony Khan is genuinely a really good guy, with a good heart, that is caring and always means well, who is also truly loved by many of the ppl that work for him in AEW. So it didn’t surprise me whatsoever that Tony donated 5 grand to help good ole Dutch out because that’s just who he really is as a person and it’s wonderful to see that kind of humanity in the wrestling business.
As far as Meltzer goes, I am now ashamed that I used to respect him as a journalist and ever subscribed to his newsletter too. Seriously, I don’t know WTF has happened to Dave, but what he wrote about Dutch was absolutely f**king pathetic and disgraceful. It was just as bad as what that POS Bruce Mitchell wrote days after Brodie Lee’s death, basically accusing his poor widow of not being truthful about her late husband’s health issues and Dave actually did a interview for his site with Bruce Mitchell not long after that.
However, as soon as that interview was uploaded to Dave’s website, it had to be taken down because even his own subscribers were f**king disgusted with him for interviewing Bruce Mitchell to begin with after what that POS wrote about Brodie Lee. So I’m not really surprised by anything Dave does anymore because whenever he’s reported multiple things just this year alone that turned out to be straight up BS. Dave just acts like none of those things ever happened and continues being his usual condescending, ignorant, know it all prick self on Twitter everyday.
This makes Tony look bad because everyone knows that Dave is connected to Tony and vice versa
tagentially (Tan-Jen-chull-Lee)
The part of this that will get glossed over is the end where they are assessing WBD as a company. It’s a dumpster fire.
Dave Meltzer was much more effective as a liar before the arrival of search engines and fact-checking. These days, he is just a daily meme for how a hack reporter operates. It's fascinating to watch it in real time. He's like the niche-wrestling version of Amber Heard. He's such a narcissistic sociopath that he simply can't bring himself to apologize or retract a report or hear criticism.
Did it even occur to Meltzer that Tony Khan, a self-acknowledged "fan" of old school wrestling, gave to Dutch's gofundme cos he's a fan of Dutch's from way back when??? Meltzer needs to stay in his lane before he loses what's left of his credibility.
Dave and the Observer no longer have substantial sources within WWE, so they rely heavily on AEW for content and inside scoops. Since the AEW product is ice cold right now, Dave is doing whatever he can to deflect the lack of success- including discussing revenue in an article about Dutch’s health. With WWE being the hottest it’s been in decades, the Observer is becoming less relevant in “wrestling journalism”.
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didn't something very similar happen between Booker T and Dave Meltzer?
If Booker T had Dave Meltzer do a spinarooni out of the room and into a parking lot, I'd pay to see that!
Dave is spreading the new propaganda line from aew fans …
Suddenly the things they praised like full buildings, good ratings & ppv numbers no longer matter so any person pointing out their failings don’t have a point r understand the business
But there’s a giant flaw in that logic
If they’re only interested in keeping wbd happy for renewals… then they need buzz, full arenas for filming weekly tv & high viewership so the network can capitalise on advertisers… the points were judging them by
I love the argument that they'll be making money next year with their Discovery Warner. That deal I've heard comes to 180 million each year I think..... Star Wars the Acolyte cost 180 million and look at how product looked and ultimately did, it looked terrible and was canceled in one season. A near 200 million dollar budget isn't that impressive anymore these days.
Im a Dutch listener & i was appalled by Meltzers comments about Dutch & his wife's illness and the go fund me. Just my opinion
If Tony Khan has a backbone, he would publicly ask Dave Meltzer to stop talking about AEW, it only ever has the reverse effect.
Tony won't do it of course, he'll take any and all praise that he can get
Giving money to his critics tells me he has a backbone. Come on man how do you turn this story into hating on Tony?
@cmcg3738 read the rest of the comment to answer your questions
@@philwalsh8975 I did read it. You want him to tell Meltzer to stop talking about AEW, a ridiculous notion, then say Tony will take all the praise he can get. So as I said above, you managed to turn this story about Tony giving money to a big critic of his into hating on Tony.
@cmcg3738 you may have read it but you don't understand it
@@philwalsh8975 You say Tony doesn’t have a backbone and will take any praise he can get, then pretend this is not hating on Tony. 😂🤡
Dave's a joke, and his 5star ratings mean nothing dudes a complete old mark
All we keep hearing they are going to make all this profit next year. I got a feeling this tune next year when asked about profits we will here it’s a private company
yet there will still be people who deny that Meltzer is a shill for AEW.
Who pays Meltzer?
While just as disgusting, I bet Dave's intent wasn't necessarily to shame Dutch but to praise Tony Khan and Chris Jericho for donating to someone who had been critical of them. That's why he named them but left out Jim Cornette who donated as much as Khan and more than Jericho when pointing out the biggest donators.
I just hope Dave's ready for the same treatment when he has some serious health issues because he earned it with this shitty behavior.
When Dave has health issues (Inevitable, he’s 62), We should all donate 5 stars and a Kenny Omega action figure to his GoFundMe
Meltzer is Konnan’s shill fetish 😅
Who's Conan?
I could be wrong but maybe they meant Konnan?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL too much Arnold! My bad fixing it. Lol
@@theRealDMac16006 just maybe….
Dave is about as trustworthy as CNN
Kind of a stupid thumbnail when Tony Khan is trying to help the community in any way he can. He's donated to Kevin Sullivan and now Dutch Mantell. This man dropped 10 G's on two absolute legends of the biz, while everybody continues to criticize him. That not only takes heart, but it also says a lot of Tony Khan and the pro wrestling community as a whole.
Most people aren't criticising him as a person they are criticising his booking. The two aren't the same thing, just because Tony is a nice and generous person doesn't mean he is exempt from criticism professionally.
Try hooked on phonics,guys.English isn't difficult when it's your native language
This seems snowflakey
If tony khan donated 5k then it seems he doesn’t have a problem with Dutch’s criticism then why should meltzer? People like ragging on TK but he didn’t have to send him any money if he didn’t want to…. And Dutch never worked for him…. I hope the WWE did something as well…
It’s pronounced “tan-gentjelly” if that makes any sense. Tangentially.
Why does anyone care about what Meltzer thinks these days. He's given star ratings to Japanese matches that he's never seen. Pre-internet he would rate matches the same day or the day after they happened, despite not having seen it. He had "people in Japan who knew his standards write reviews for him" and they wrote up a review and faxed it to him. He's a scam artist, has been for years.
WBD is so last year, like literally. Hogwarts Legacy last game from them to make money, and according to Google, Barbie was the last movie from them that made money. Both just happen to be 2023. 2024 on the other hand, they've been losing money left and right. Kinda fitting they're working with AEW. 😉😂🤣
has Meltzer given a public apology for this?
He never do
How much money would be raised if all donations were made by Anonymous? I keep seeing people heralding the donations from well known folks connected to Mantell and the random fans in the YT comments who want to make sure everyone knows, “I donated X.”
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 bringing up hypotheticals doesn’t prove anything 🤷🏾♂️ just because you have a bad view of the world doesn’t mean there aren’t selfless people out there, get a life 🥱
Man, dave is a goof.
Dave has no morals. Part of that is he is a shameless liar and a bad person (I need to be careful how I describe that on TH-cam 😂).
Segments like this are why I am a huge fan of this show.
You guys give it to the people straight... with NO chaser.
You really have a hard time saying "tangentially"? Wow! The public fool system in the works.
This is what happens when bands like Twisted Sister, Alice Cooper, and Pink Floyd write songs like "Be Chrool to Your Scuel," "School's Out," and "Another Brick in the Wall Part 2".