Dorothy Kirsten last perf. NY-Bergonzi MacNeil "Tosca"

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2010
  • Two "old pros" KIRSTEN ( last minute replacement) & BERGONZI. '79

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  • @kensonkuba8925
    @kensonkuba8925 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    She was about 69 years old at the time of this performance. She regularly sang with Frank Sinatra 29 years prior to this. The quality of her voice when singing with Sinatra was noticeable. Must be her operatic training.

  • @vanmusician
    @vanmusician 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In her autobiography she clamed to be born in 1915. but when she died it was revealed she was born in 1910, so 69 when she sang this final performance. I saw her in 'Fanciulla del West' here in Vancouver in 1966. I found her voice needed a bit of getting used to - it was so bright!

  • @alexanderzaphir721
    @alexanderzaphir721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Licia ,Dorothy ,& Zinka....3 queens of the Met.They have proven to us ,that the perfection of their techniques has no age...

  • @SilverSingingMethod
    @SilverSingingMethod 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What is great is you can hear the *real* sound of the voices in the theater. Not the mic'd/enhanced voices like today. You hear the ambient sound. Great! THIS is opera.

    • @EmilyGloeggler7984
      @EmilyGloeggler7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silver Singing Method That is your subjective opinion. Opera is more than just healthy beautiful or ugly sound.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EmilyGloeggler7984
      No it’s not. They had no amplification but nowadays it’s common.
      Why are you almost always wrong? 😆

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@draganvidic2039 Emily enjoys being a troll.

  • @unclelouie3828
    @unclelouie3828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How I ever got these videos 'under cover'- Amazing. Here I sit (like Miss Havisham) watching my old videos... and loving every minute. When you're taping your mind is on everything but the performance.

    • @VinylToVideo
      @VinylToVideo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you made these, I wonder if you know what a service you were doing the world? I think now even the Met couldn't complain. If there are full or other performances they should be celebrated and be available for all to see.

  • @sharky-os2lm
    @sharky-os2lm 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely LOVE how she's hanging onto the final note as she jumps! Brilliant!

  • @gaytenor
    @gaytenor 14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A remarkable performance by Kirsten with the voice still sounding youthful.

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Metropolitan Opera House
    February 10, 1979
    Tosca...................Dorothy Kirsten [Last performance]
    Cavaradossi.............Carlo Bergonzi
    Scarpia.................Cornell MacNeil
    Sacristan...............Renato Capecchi
    Spoletta................Charles Anthony
    Angelotti...............John Cheek
    Sciarrone...............Russell Christopher
    Shepherd................Robert Sapolsky
    Jailer..................Philip Booth
    Conductor...............James Conlon

  • @jmccracken1963
    @jmccracken1963 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice selection of highlights featuring THREE old pros (Kirsten, Bergonzi, and MacNeil) in roles that they excelled in, and a "young pro" conducting (James Conlon), and, of course that splendid Otto Schenk/Rudolf Heinrich production which was 20 years old and still going strong at the time of this performance. Even more amazing is that Kirsten is "still going STRONG" at the age of 68 - a testament to careful use of voice and careful role selection. Thank you VERY much!!!!!

  • @wbondar
    @wbondar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME!!!!!!! Thanks for posting such a gem! William

  • @ChrisStockslager
    @ChrisStockslager 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I assume she was replacing Verrett? What was she sick with?
    And my god, MacNeil's voice is just so damned HUGE! What I wouldn't give to have heard him live in the house.

    • @melbapatti
      @melbapatti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Verrett had recurring asthma problems, I believe.

    • @melbapatti
      @melbapatti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chris Stockslager, You would have been floored by the size of his voice, especially in something like Tonio in Pagliacci where his high Ab sounded like it was coming up from the floor, through his body, and bouncing off the back wall of the theater. Then a few measures later he did it again, LONGER, on the high G. At age 59.
      He got a little unsteady in his last 7 or 8 Met years, but the size of his voice and his ringing top never deserted him. If you want to hear prime MacNeil, get the Sony CD of Ernani from the Met with Price and Bergonzi. His Act 3 contains some of the best baritone singing you’ll ever hear.

    • @Twentythousandlps
      @Twentythousandlps ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No matter how late, MacNeil's voice filled that huge space as few can.

  • @opertutto
    @opertutto 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing this splendid memento of Kirsten and Bergonzi. A remarkable document. I hope you will share other ones from the same period.

  • @ladyrotha5420
    @ladyrotha5420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still gives spinal chills!

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WOW. Now that's really a treasure.

  • @Thewisemonkey9
    @Thewisemonkey9 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this so much... most modern singers have not power or stamina... these guys had voices similar to titans! Kirsten's (Last performance) beats most current sopranos in thier prime... Bergonzi is a musical miracle and MacNeil is awesome!
    I think it must be the diet and hard living that made these people like this... these guys are all as fit as fiddles. Today/ Pick one up and they rattle and shake ;).
    Love this! Thank you!

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    she was amazing.

  • @sospello
    @sospello 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another treasure. Now I won't be able to sleep--serves me right for opening your site at 2 in the AM!

  • @leandroabreu9532
    @leandroabreu9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Splendida orchestra !!!

  • @meganailsa
    @meganailsa 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love the sound of Dorothy Kirsten's voice - wonderful piece of history.
    Can you post Vissi D'arte - it would make my day.Thank you

  • @manolis.799
    @manolis.799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What refreshing art!

  • @UncleLouie867
    @UncleLouie867 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @chsiegel so glad my videos are appreciated. It wasn't easy!!

  • @infrantasi
    @infrantasi 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Patricia Racette sounded this good for about 8 months.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not even ever. She’s a joke.

  • @Tenortalker
    @Tenortalker 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a great artist Dorothy Kirsten. I am not sure that Tosca was the best role to display her wonderful voice, but she had the temperament to succeed in it. It works because even the screams and cries are delivered on pitch, the voice always well placed so no damage could be done. A really great lady!

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravi Tutti!

  • @waynebrasler
    @waynebrasler 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy smokes! If you don't have the C.D. of three of Kirsten's hit pop albums for Columbia try to find it. She was one of the few opera talents who really could also sing pop as a pop singer. This is such a thrill seeing her here, brilliant still.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes; February 10, 1979.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MacNeil was at that point at the end of his career where he sang wide open vowels scarily high. It’s a very unpleasant sound, but somehow the sheer ability to do it must have been connected to the incredible top notes of his prime.

  • @Wolfcrag85
    @Wolfcrag85 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to the performance's date, I believe she was either subbing for Teresa Zylis-Gara or Gilda Cruz-Romo.

  • @vanmusician
    @vanmusician 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She wore a dark wig because the libretto refers to 'bruna
    Floria'. Eleanor Steber sang it as a blonde - no idea how she got away with it!

  • @jameslevister9081
    @jameslevister9081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, the voice is very bright and overly youthful in timbre, but It's strong and the phrasing illuminatescharacter and drama at hand. She was a great vocal artist.

  • @gregberg5559
    @gregberg5559 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    My understanding is that she replaced Leonie Rysanek on this occasion. What a remarkable document this is.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirsten was 69 here.

  • @operabilia
    @operabilia 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad the "Vissi d'arte" is missing, but it's far enough to judge what that thrilling performance must have been.

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you mean three 'old pros'. MacNeil is great too!

  • @walterharper79
    @walterharper79 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    She the best American along with Traubel to come out of the 40's and 50's Manon Lescaut and Butterfly very special

    • @laryhesdorffer2027
      @laryhesdorffer2027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have to include Steber in that list.

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget Eleanor Steber!

    • @walterharper79
      @walterharper79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paragod333 GREAT SINGER BUT THE BOOZE GOT IN THE WAY KIRSTAN WAS ALMOST 70 WHEN SHE SANG THIS TOSCA THE BEST MANON AND BUTTERFLY I EVER SAW

  • @TreblesBasses
    @TreblesBasses 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this at the Met?

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't she supposed be something like 9 years older than she claimed? So was she actually in her 70s here?

  • @vitroz
    @vitroz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! She is 69 here and a total wonder

  • @opera888able
    @opera888able 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ghastly recorded sound but a wonderful record of the great Diva's last work at the "Met". Still in great form. It must have been unforgettable to be there. Macneil relishing the role of the "rat"

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghastly? You obviously haven't listened to many live recordings.

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Ghastly sound" ? YOU try getting video equipment into 'that' place. Amazing it came out as good as it did.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bergonzi sure suffered this one

  • @LordMgls
    @LordMgls 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the question is... how could one sneak a camera into orchestra level in 1979???

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sneaking a Camera. Believe me- IT WAS "NOT" EASY. My Sony Video = A huge camera, cables to a deck- on & on. The lens alone was huge. Batter pack around my waist!! Good picture and sound for that time. ps- You needed two people to 'sneak' the "stuff" in. But aren't 'ya glad I did.

    • @LordMgls
      @LordMgls 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am more than glad that you did!!! I call it public service. Can you elaborate on the details?? It really must be a hell of a story!! greetings from Europe.

    • @LordMgls
      @LordMgls 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for example, how about changing tapes (was it tapes?); how about keeping it hidden during the intervals; other spectators' reactions; going out unnoticed. unfortunately, nowadays, it is so easy to make a clip with a cell phone that too many people do it... and for no reason other than boasting they have the kind of money to seat in "those" seats... Looking forward for your stories!

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It WAS tape. 20 minute REEL to REEL VIDEO-TAPE. Changing and threading the tape in the machine was almost IMPOSSIBLE. Too many stories to tell. But check out StuartLou and see all the "stuff' I managed to tape. I'm AMAZED at how still I could hold that camera.

    • @calibean7736
      @calibean7736 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LordMgls Well not a very good recording unless you're into the sound of coughing

  • @EmilyGloeggler7984
    @EmilyGloeggler7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atrocious acting. Needed more work. She needed to take lessons from better opera singer-actresses like Eileen Farrell and Maria Callas. This is not opera. This is a joke.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Total bitterness Troll has opened her dirty mouth again...

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@draganvidic2039 Why does she (Emily) waste her time. Does she think she's funny? She's just silly. And a troll.

    • @manolis.799
      @manolis.799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should be ASHAMED of yourself to criticize such an artiste

  • @Jjjjjjjm
    @Jjjjjjjm ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the act one duet that used to be on her?Bergonzi and Kirsten just wonderful in it.