An insight into the projection room at The Phoenix Cinema, East Finchley, London

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2010
  • A chance to see how film projection works, set in the projection room of The Phoenix Cinema, Britains oldest purpose-built, continuously operating cinema. Starring Peter Bayley MBE, the cinemas Chief Projectionist, who has worked here for 50 years and is the first projectionist to receive an MBE for services to the UK film industry.
    From September 2010, The Phoenix will be holding regular behind-the-scenes tours. Keep an eye on our website for more information: www.phoenixcinema.co.uk

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  • @brian1157
    @brian1157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel incredibly lucky to have been a projectionist before the digital age took over. I ran 16 projectors back in the early 2010's while in college. Once a movie set started I had to clean, swap, thread, start, and check one movie every 5 minutes, not including the time it took to get from one side of the building to other and make adjustments as needed. I had my walkie talkie, small flashlight, toolset, and wristwatch. I felt like a Swiss army Macgyver man up there in the dark lol.

  • @oldproji
    @oldproji 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I started my training in 1957 on Kalee 21s with President arc lamps. In those days we were still running nitrate film on Saturday mornings with every safety precaution still in full use - even down to surprise visits by the Fire Chief. No smoking in the Box (aka booth or projection room) and certainly more than one projectionist on duty at a time. As I worked my way up the ladder I worked on several makes of projector, including BTH SUPAs, Ross GC3s with Peerless Magnarc lamps, Phillips FP 20s and DP 70/35 at Elstree Studios back in the early 1970s. The trade has changed out of all recognition since I last took a changeover.

  • @ducter2001
    @ducter2001 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is what Cinema is all about..the magic of watching film...Modern day digital projection has snuffed-out the enjoyment of going to the cinema. Digital has turned me away for good from the Cinema. Watching this clip makes me pine for the love of Film projection. Tkns for posting. ....memories never die.......

  • @MANTLEBERG
    @MANTLEBERG 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes the young people will never see a technicolor scope print displayed with carbon arc light, we used to take it for granted, but i miss it now, i like the50-35 towers, i still have spares for these...the good old days.

  • @indran5071
    @indran5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed

  • @prabhakarv4193
    @prabhakarv4193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative. Thank you

  • @ladyretro
    @ladyretro 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good glimpse into the projection room!

  • @indran5071
    @indran5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The smell of the film

  • @edwardmorris18
    @edwardmorris18 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for posting this wonderful video. Its sad that so many cinemas can no longer show 35mm or 70mm films. Digital has destroyed cinema. Of course the saddest part of all is the ending of the role of the Cinema Projectionist. Many thanks to all our great Cinema Projectionists of the past - you will be missed!

    • @oldproji
      @oldproji 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I started training in 1957 and left the industry in 1974 for a different career. I miss those early days.

    • @neilrobinson1761
      @neilrobinson1761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Digital has destroyed cinema. Can you explain why as Digital has allowed more Independents to show more new releases something they would never have been able to with 35mm, just look at all the old Christmas films that were back in cinemas all over the country this would never have happened before Digital.

  • @indran5071
    @indran5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad i was a projector operator and mobile cinema also open air cinema was very interesting now feel very sad.the sound of the projector nice to hear

  • @jonsadj7
    @jonsadj7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh i see. Good work

  • @uktvcool
    @uktvcool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how is the sound synched to the frame in the gate as the bottom loop allows for human guesstimate of its size so could be out of synch by a frame or two at least

  • @reyjulio
    @reyjulio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a real cinema,digial is only a big tv for home.

  • @MCRedThree
    @MCRedThree 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most do. You can find theaters that use this kind of reel-to-reel system though. The Coolidge Corner in Boston runs a couple screens that way. The Amherst Cinema also uses reel-to-reel for archived prints. You can find this olden days style in the States. But you're right - platters are most common. Nowadays, if they don't have platters, it's likely because they don't have "film."

    • @TheThecyclist
      @TheThecyclist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      archive films are not permitted to be shown using a platter to reduce the chance of damaging the print some archive films can only be shown if the cinema still has two projectors such as art houses and can do reel changeovers which also prevents damage to the print as each reel is run singly then rewound back onto its original reel by hand

  • @user-bi4xo6kn3v
    @user-bi4xo6kn3v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rewind Project listening music.

  • @ThePoreproductions
    @ThePoreproductions 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    movie theaters in the states that use film, use a platter, instead of big reels.

  • @jolami2021
    @jolami2021 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing!!

  • @TheCineSinge
    @TheCineSinge 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't that just magic?

  • @jonasgu97
    @jonasgu97 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DUCT TAPE 4 EVER !!!!!

  • @lordbemylight
    @lordbemylight 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoy this technology while you can before it becomes obsolete. These gigantic digital hard drives (about 300 GB) are taking the place of film. They may be more convenient for use because of the ability to re-use the drive, but I hear the maintenance costs are higher.

    • @Goofybeatz
      @Goofybeatz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is indeed, and the cost to even acquire one of these digital projectors, let alone the TMS (master automation systems) is absolutely expensive.

  • @Muswell
    @Muswell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh gosh. This is wonderful. The mechanics of presenting a film. Do any cinemas make it an occasion nowadays by having curtains opening?
    It's all been lost. We're now just watching a film - like listening to a song download instead of PLAYING the record. Lost.

    • @oldproji
      @oldproji 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It used to be the job of showmen: keeping carbons properly trimmed, taking seamless changeovers from one projector to another, operating tabs (curtains) and house lights at an appropriate time, fading in and out of the non-sync aka dual record player. Everything had to come together at the right time. Cinemas today are no more than viewing theatres you would see in any film studio, and requires no showmanship at all whatsoever.

  • @Ampex196
    @Ampex196 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a very, very different world to the digital cinema of today.
    Personally, I was never happy about using any type of long-play system (towers or cakestands). At least with a tower you could pause rewinding to examine the print between screenings.
    Call me old fashioned, but as far as I'm concerned, the only way to project a film is on two machines with changeovers and carbon arc lamps.

  • @jonsadj7
    @jonsadj7 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sureley not... The sound cant be played after the corresponding frame has already been shown.... the Dolby unit has to process this?
    Unless the Audio is printed ahed of the video...?

    • @oldproji
      @oldproji 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose technically you are right. If a married magnetic track or optical track is projected it will always stay in sync. If it is unmarried then start marks on both film and sound track will take sound processing into account.

    • @smartrain1
      @smartrain1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sound is printed 21 frames ahead of the picture.

    • @jonsadj7
      @jonsadj7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smartrain1 Ah mint, i didnt know that. Thanks (Y)

  • @indran5071
    @indran5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was operating carbon arc.

  • @am-uw4pq
    @am-uw4pq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2019 anyone?????🤣🤣🤣

  • @darrenburnfan
    @darrenburnfan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't get me on Digital. I was a cinema projectionist from 1961 to 1982, using 35mm film and was trained to show the films properly, carbon arcs and all. Last September, 2013, I was invited to see my first Digital presentation at the Regal, Tenbury Wells, Worcestershire, England. The film was the classic Carol Reed drama from 1948, The Fallen Idol, and former child star of the film, Bobby Henrey, now 74 years old, had flown all the way over from the United States to attend the occasion and to promote the launch of his autobiography. Well, the film was supposed to have been shown in its original 4 x 3 aspect ratio, but they actually ran it horizontally stretched to 6 x 3 across their wide screen, distorting the image and making the actors look very broad and fat. The presentation was a disaster and in front of one of the film's stars, too! The untrained staff hadn't the foggiest idea how to correct the distortion. Well, that was my first experience of Digital and it will be my last!

    • @oldproji
      @oldproji 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I trained from 1957 and left the trade in 1974. Ex NATKE member.

  • @darkvader7231
    @darkvader7231 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was way better before the advent of new massive video screens which are crap, clinical and cold with no style or substance, long live film and single screen cinemas if there are any left!!!

  • @user-qb2bi4sp8q
    @user-qb2bi4sp8q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Современный кинотеатр напоминает ресторан, где кушают и пьют напитки и одновременно смотрят большой телевизор. Очень неприятно смотреть кино в такой обстановке.