The fact that anyone can honestly say that Swann took this is baffling to me. Battle was over after “This cat is lame, but I can rap the same, looks like ‘insert an actors name’”.
Not to mention illmac then leads up with “I don’t want to sound cliche today, But if you shaved your face with a razor blade, You look like an overweight Macy Gray” He literally beat Swann at his own style with a very complex bar
Lol. Some of the comments on this battle are pretty out there. I personally thought this one was too close to call. Two different styles clashing, both being executed flawlessly by two great MCs. The judges did what they had to do and the crowd reaction I'm sure made it a lot easier to make the decision.
i dont even think this was close. "i dont wanna sound cliche today, but if u shave your face with a razorblade u'd look like an overweight macy gray" KILLED everything swann said.
i saw swan freestylin on MTV a long time ago & he went to the finals i personally think he won but they gave it to Wrecognize (hes wack) then i saw wreckognize on fight klub & he got killed by Jin lol
@ChewyBeat Nah, almost every joke that was actually directed towards Illmac was a short joke. The rest could've been against anyone. It was close, but Illmac definetely won this. He was 17 here.
jj ww every line in the first was premeditated, its kind of obvious… ur giving illmac too much credit for thinking it was all from the top, and not giving swann enough credit for his freestyle ability
Well Mr. ITypeInAllCaps, you are very wrong. Illmac burned him simply with that "insert an actors name"... classic line. Also, I think Macy Gray has since fallen off because she and swann were mentioned together. Seriously though, Illmac had flips and rebutts un this battle that rate among some of the best I've heard.
in nearly every battle swann has a reference about the guy hes battling and a celebrity, illmac just shut swann down completely with, "this cat is lame, and i can rap the same, he looks like insert actors name"
Proverbs 13:1-13 A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. A man shall eat well by the fruit of his mouth, But the soul of the unfaithful feeds on violence. He who guards his mouth preserves his life, But he who opens wide his lips shall have destruction. The soul of a lazy man desires, and has nothing; but the soul of the diligent shall be made rich. A righteous man hates lying, But a wicked man is loathsome and comes to shame. Righteousness guards him whose way is blameless, But wickedness overthrows the sinner. There is one who makes himself rich, yet has nothing; And one who makes himself poor, yet has great riches. The ransom of a man’s life is his riches, But the poor does not hear rebuke. The light of the righteous rejoices, But the lamp of the wicked will be put out. By pride comes nothing but strife, But with the well-advised is wisdom. Wealth gained by dishonesty will be diminished, But he who gathers by labor will increase. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life. He who despises the word will be destroyed, But he who fears the commandment will be rewarded.
Your simple question has a simple answer. For a simple person such as yourself, no. He didnt say "that" razor blade line. And the only reason I know that line is because I listen to hip hop for the lyrics and he is one of the best lyricists out.
first off the line of em's is.... "youll be safe for days, if you shave your legs, with renee's razor blades". And no i dont think illmaculate was thinking, hmmm iam gonna bite eminem soo everybody will think iam dope. What is eminem the only person allowed to rhyme the word razor-blade. And the way its delivered by eminem in that song is alot slower of a flow than illmaculates in this battle.
Nah, both of them were freestyling. Illmac is short and Swann talked about it. Nothing generalized, and Swann doesn't need flips. Its not a part of his technique, which is what makes him so dope and different from every other battler out there. I see your point though. Maye the the judges felt the flips in Illmac's second round won it. Its possible.
I disagree with you on both of those. Illmac didn't just have the macy gray line. The "inser actors name" called out Swanns whole style and cadence which NEVER changes. In the WRC...how can u say Illz and Parable won that last battle? Illz got shook after the "tekken 3" and u could tell by the long ass pause. After that he didn't really say anything. He's lucky Parable did a good job of covering for him.
You don't understand the fundementals of freestyle in hiphop, you can judge as a spectator and the um, internet accepts your opinion, but as far as true freestyling goes, swann didnt flip like illmac did, he was basically a stand-up comedian on the mic, punchlines aren't everything.
Why would I cry? Watch the crowd. Watch Swann's dejected, bloated, quivering face after the rounds are up. Including swann, the only person who thinks he won is you. I'm pretty content actually.
so what if he had more punchlines, if that was the point of a battle some of the worst would be winning. Illmac's style, multi's, and punches were alot better.
I heard the Macy Gray bar and realized I was witnessing the birth of Dizaster’s whole style
This is a classic battle.
The fact that anyone can honestly say that Swann took this is baffling to me.
Battle was over after “This cat is lame, but I can rap the same, looks like ‘insert an actors name’”.
Not to mention illmac then leads up with “I don’t want to sound cliche today,
But if you shaved your face with a razor blade,
You look like an overweight Macy Gray”
He literally beat Swann at his own style with a very complex bar
illmac turned that line against him so nice tho.
i thought that too about the dope line, but i played it 4 my boy who is in the rap game. he said dat line is played out. been said awready.
It's crazy cause Illmac lost in the first round in the 2005 Scirbble Jam...he was just on this A+ game this year.
Lol. Some of the comments on this battle are pretty out there. I personally thought this one was too close to call. Two different styles clashing, both being executed flawlessly by two great MCs. The judges did what they had to do and the crowd reaction I'm sure made it a lot easier to make the decision.
This is one of the most classic battles of all time.
Swann fucked him up, even Paris Hilton felt bad for him.
nope
Insert an actors name
i come back to watch this about once a year...
Lol.
the ''shaved your face/overweight macy gray'' line killed it for me.
i dont even think this was close.
"i dont wanna sound cliche today, but if u shave your face with a razorblade u'd look like an overweight macy gray"
KILLED everything swann said.
i love how swann talks his way through battles. No cadence. By the way, the caps lock key really makes your point clear....not.
The crowd reaction is edited out in this so people can hear the rhymes more clearly. Swann got a huge reaction to most of his punches in this battle.
So the same applies for illmac and we heard all the crowd reaction for him
^^^the scribble dvd always cut out the crowd so u can hear the lines better, thats why it sounds like they get no response.
Illmac had me at " ... Macy Gray ..."
When we jumps and swings his arm around, I swear he's trying to fly.
"insert actors name" that shit was funny
Beat is Assassination Day - Ghostface Killah
i saw swan freestylin on MTV a long time ago & he went to the finals i personally think he won but they gave it to Wrecognize (hes wack) then i saw wreckognize on fight klub & he got killed by Jin lol
Damn thats a cold ass beat
this was a doap battle, two of the best
haha illmac man, nice battle
swan should make a comeback short personal punchlines are back in
I've had the audio for this one for a while. There was no straight killing on this one but iLLmaculate took it.
great battle, illmac edged him out with that line about being able to jump into his stomach LOL
does imaculate have a cd or no cause i would buy that shit
true freestyling
This is emcee'n at its finest. LONG LIVE HIP HOP.
If only Hov and Nas would've done this in Madison Square. MAAAAN.
asassantion day I want to say off the gza album a real rza beat
DAMN!
WOW, about time i saw the video for this.
illmac RIPPED swann
iam pretty sure that he didnt. Spin the mic is one of the jumpoff events. You may be getting thesaurus confused with illmac.
i heard an audio version of this and the crowd cheered for each of swann's rhymes. weird
swann's first set was hilarious!
@ChewyBeat Nah, almost every joke that was actually directed towards Illmac was a short joke. The rest could've been against anyone.
It was close, but Illmac definetely won this.
He was 17 here.
swann is dope as fukk
@umbra88 illmac was like 15 here, imagine if u were there that year you would be biased to because illmac spittin this was so amazing
Swanns first verse is onpoint.
but Illmaculate ran shop in 04...
Big ups to Greg.
@fuckthabacon
Assassination Day - Ghostface Killah feat. GZA and Raekwon
In my opinion it makes it easier to flow if you move.
esotericness, it's Assassination Day by Ghostface, and yeah I think the crowd was too dumb to get the come dope line.
@ProblyNotYurNmba1Fan Swann always says something like "he looks like (insert actors name)," that's all
illmaculate should make some tracks
did the crowd not catch the come dope line? they gave no response at all
one of fav battles :) ill had the crowd, swann was spitting tho... i'd say it was a tie
Jimmy Rorie swann was spitting writtens while illmac was freestyling and rebutting.
this was by far illmac's easiest win at scribble jam 2004.
jj ww both spit writtens 1st round, both freestyled 2nd round (swan's freestyle was dry, ill had some mean rebuttles)
Jimmy Rorie please tell me a written that illmac spit. please.
illmac has never spit a written in a freestyle battle. you should know that.
jj ww every line in the first was premeditated, its kind of obvious… ur giving illmac too much credit for thinking it was all from the top, and not giving swann enough credit for his freestyle ability
Jimmy Rorie literally everything swann spit in this battle was pre written. literally everything illmac spit in this battle was freestyled.
Well Mr. ITypeInAllCaps, you are very wrong. Illmac burned him simply with that "insert an actors name"... classic line. Also, I think Macy Gray has since fallen off because she and swann were mentioned together. Seriously though, Illmac had flips and rebutts un this battle that rate among some of the best I've heard.
Swann had me rollin, but illmaculate got him on dat one.
@alistilla2 He was actually 17
in nearly every battle swann has a reference about the guy hes battling and a celebrity, illmac just shut swann down completely with, "this cat is lame, and i can rap the same, he looks like insert actors name"
it doesn't matter to me who won...It was just entertaining
beat is from Ghostface's Ironman album..
illmaculate is crazy as fuck :D
Where do you think they battled?
Mac reminds me of my self, same height and charisma lol.
wat is dat instrumental. i've been tryna find it.
@ProblyNotYurNmba1Fan no problem man
swann is still funny as shit
yo anyone know where the beat come from
yall realize illmac was 17 at this time right
Proverbs 13:1-13
A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. A man shall eat well by the fruit of his mouth, But the soul of the unfaithful feeds on violence. He who guards his mouth preserves his life, But he who opens wide his lips shall have destruction. The soul of a lazy man desires, and has nothing; but the soul of the diligent shall be made rich. A righteous man hates lying, But a wicked man is loathsome and comes to shame. Righteousness guards him whose way is blameless, But wickedness overthrows the sinner. There is one who makes himself rich, yet has nothing; And one who makes himself poor, yet has great riches. The ransom of a man’s life is his riches, But the poor does not hear rebuke. The light of the righteous rejoices, But the lamp of the wicked will be put out. By pride comes nothing but strife, But with the well-advised is wisdom. Wealth gained by dishonesty will be diminished, But he who gathers by labor will increase. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life. He who despises the word will be destroyed, But he who fears the commandment will be rewarded.
Your simple question has a simple answer. For a simple person such as yourself, no. He didnt say "that" razor blade line. And the only reason I know that line is because I listen to hip hop for the lyrics and he is one of the best lyricists out.
ay guys what beat is this?
" i don't want to sound cliche but if he shaved his face with a razor blade he'd look like an overweight macy gray" -- how can you beat that?
This is not GZA's Liquid Swordz, it's Assassination Day by Ghostface Killah
dude he didnt bite , who hasnt said "razorblades". but no line was bitten the style was tho.
what do you mean how, all he said was small jokes like he was just like "im gonna say this shit when i battle a short person" swan still dope tho
Man for some reason I prefer listening to this rather than the original track.
Macy Gray line was dooooope
assassination day
0:55 - 1:06... bodied
some one tell me what illmacs first line actually meant. i know rhymefest beat him in 03 but still doesnt make sence
i thought he was referring to the fact that he compared swann to a celebrity and he just made fun of fun for using a look a like lyric?
wat beat is that
He's a little a little small
first off the line of em's is.... "youll be safe for days, if you shave your legs, with renee's razor blades". And no i dont think illmaculate was thinking, hmmm iam gonna bite eminem soo everybody will think iam dope. What is eminem the only person allowed to rhyme the word razor-blade. And the way its delivered by eminem in that song is alot slower of a flow than illmaculates in this battle.
o i got it.
Nah, both of them were freestyling. Illmac is short and Swann talked about it. Nothing generalized, and Swann doesn't need flips. Its not a part of his technique, which is what makes him so dope and different from every other battler out there. I see your point though. Maye the the judges felt the flips in Illmac's second round won it. Its possible.
@siwooot biased towards dopeness
I disagree with you on both of those. Illmac didn't just have the macy gray line. The "inser actors name" called out Swanns whole style and cadence which NEVER changes. In the WRC...how can u say Illz and Parable won that last battle? Illz got shook after the "tekken 3" and u could tell by the long ass pause. After that he didn't really say anything. He's lucky Parable did a good job of covering for him.
I think Swan would of won if he came with 2 more good punchlines at the end but it was a good battle tho
You don't understand the fundementals of freestyle in hiphop, you can judge as a spectator and the um, internet accepts your opinion, but as far as true freestyling goes, swann didnt flip like illmac did, he was basically a stand-up comedian on the mic, punchlines aren't everything.
Swann kills this man, illmaculate used a eminem line
Oh come,
"he couldn't come dope if he ejaculated crack"
That's some sick wordplay by any standard; doesn't necessarily belong in a battle though :P
yea, i guess. illmaculates "inserted actors name" was perfect for dissing swanns cliche lines.
illmac is the bomb
lol, Illmac has never battled Solomon.
Illmaculate merked him.
Illmaculate killed it.
Swan is nice, too.
Illmaculate beat Swann. I like Swann (and he was funny as usual) as much as anyone else does, but he was served in this battled.
illmac isnt overrated, peep the spin the mic battle. he won because he basically ripped it.
Why would I cry? Watch the crowd. Watch Swann's dejected, bloated, quivering face after the rounds are up. Including swann, the only person who thinks he won is you. I'm pretty content actually.
Illmac is actually not that sick he just rhymes well. If you listen he's really not saying much.
yeah but you forget that its a freestyle
the flips and humor illmac brought was not generalized, swanns shit could have been used on anybody
I was there in the nati for that one. Illmaculate chewed everyone that night.
P.S swan sux
Illmac served him. doper flow.
swann won? swan can be funny but I think Illmac caught him on his game here and had more energy
so what if he had more punchlines, if that was the point of a battle some of the worst would be winning.
Illmac's style, multi's, and punches were alot better.
You're joking right? Mac not only countered some of swan's material, but iced him on top of that. Swann got the knocked the fuck out. Period.
whats up with the biased crowd??