MEN Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2022
- Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil Men - a 2022 folk horror film written and directed by Alex Garland.
Premise: A young woman goes on a solo holiday in the English countryside after the death of her husband.
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Cast:
Jessie Buckley as Harper Marlowe
Rory Kinnear as Geoffrey
Paapa Essiedu as James Marlowe
Gayle Rankin as Riley
Cinematography by Rob Hardy
Edited by Jake Roberts
Music by Ben Salisbury and Geoff Barrow
Keywords: ending explained, reaction video, trailer, A24, Cannes Film Festival, Annihilation, Ex Machina, Dredd
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I loved it. It's hilarious to think about how many people will watch the trailer thinking they're getting a semi-tame cerebral thriller only to realize they've signed up for the pure insanity of the third act. Also, the cinematography is absolutely sunning.
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Exactly what I thought going into this! 💀🤢😂
This review helped me understand this film so much more!!...That last sequence was just ....Jesus Christ 😂
Great review! Nick really echoed my thoughts completely and I rated it the same. The “subtext is literally the text” pretty much sums up my issues with the film. I feel like Alex sacrificed so much depth and character development in the film in service of the metaphor he’s presenting. At the end of the day my biggest gripe is that it does feel written by a man about women’s trauma. I really love Jessie Buckley but she can only do so much within the confines of this role. For the most part she feels like a stand-in for the role of “traumatized woman” and is just there to serve the metaphor by heap loads and loads more trauma onto throughout the film. She doesn’t feel whole or truly realized, she’s more so symbolic in the way that Rory Kinnear’s many men are symbolic. It does feel very on the nose and obvious to me so it’s interesting people are so confused what the movie is about, but I’m glad it is sparking conversations about these things, I just really would be curious to have seen what a woman director would have done with this film. Props to the cinematographer and sound design for creating a beautiful film and the body horror was very well done too, there’s definitely a lot of pros and cons to be had here.
I like Alex's movies and am totally obsessed with Jessie Buckley from the minute I first saw her performance in 'Beast' so cannot wait to see this film. It already strikes a chord. The guy who I left my (extremely) abusive husband for, was 14 yrs younger at the time and our relationship was beyond intense but I remember trying to break it off in the beginning and his reaction at the time. Dead calm. Like the eye of a hurricane. When we decided to mutually part ways five years later...will never forget when he casually said "Do you remember that day when you wanted to leave me? Do you know why I showed zero emotion?" - I remember we had been driving on the highway at that time - "Because I decided to floor it and crash my car into a wall. With you sitting next to me". As I stared at him in shock. The realization hit me that you will never (100%) truly know your partner. Even if you spend a lifetime with them and I literally shuddered, while walking away. It is one thing to threaten S...and another to take that person with you. Ps. Apologies for my macabre confession and Thank you both for the recommendation. ❤❤
That’s sobering. I’m glad you made it out of that situation.
Y'all have the best chemistry and timing! And Joseph cracks me up when he describes people, he's on the nose reading a look and facial features, like 100 percent and he's isn't mean about 😂
OMG I love your analysis of this film Nick! Please do more analyses like this!
I just finished watching it, and thank the lord for Nick and Joseph! I understood and now enjoyed the film so much more after your on-point review.
I'm so low at the moment, you guys though.....actually put a smile on my face. Love you two, funny as anything. xxx
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What do you think of the Green Man folklore Involved in the movie? A figure representing rebirth often depicted with a face made of leaves
@Edwin interesting. I read "The Green Man is typically portrayed as a human face surrounded by dense foliage. Such images appear as far back as the eleventh century, in church carvings. As Christianity spread, the Green Man went into hiding, with stonemasons leaving secret images of his face around cathedrals and churches. He enjoyed a revival during the Victorian era, when he became popular with architects, who used his visage as a decorative aspect in buildings." and that the Green Knight was a form of Green Man legend, which was Def a real Arthurian legend from the 14th century
I really want to see this. Even if I don’t end up liking it, I hope it would at least make for great conversation. Nick, l love hearing your interpretations and Joseph, even though you didn’t get to see it, you always do a wonderful job editing in the visual references for the movie. Thank you both 🙏🙂
Love this channel, and love your takes and taste when it comes to horror. You can tell Nick is way more into movies and cinema than Joseph, but having that dynamic is also what makes your videos so enjoyable and addicting. Keep up the good work!
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I love the dynamic, I very much relate to Nick talking nerdy filmography with my friends and they only are partially connecting with what I’m saying but I’m just happy to have someone to share my thoughts with 😅
I thought it was interesting that she lied about knowing how to play the piano. "Do you think he's cute?" "No, he's British." LMAO!
So I recently subscribed, and I have been watching your back catalogue. You both crack me up..love from Australia.
Just saw this one. I love psychological/metaphorical horror, movies that make you think. Great review as always guys, thank you
I was laughing my butt off everytime it gets weird and that creepy birth-after-birth scene (It happened 5 times). I guess I'm a masochist and a massive glutton for visual punishment.
I like your reviews so much!
7:00 Joseph the way you explain was very well done, bravo. And Nick what you said early to that point is wonderful. Very good insight, guys🙏👏👏👏💯
So remember that film Mother! ? Getting vibes of that from this review, is that fair
Oh wow, absolutely not. After you see it, you’ll realize why that’s blasphemous haha
Yeah it’s nothing like mother 😭😭
I love the trailer; I still want to see this even though I watched this review. Thanks for review, FJF🎥
Really interesting insights and references brought up. I also thought of Society in the birth scene. Not so much Kylie though😸 Great vid!
i can’t wait to hear this review!
Amazing analysis. Thank you!!
Rory Kinnan is good actor. He was under used in Bond films
Thank you for the review. It paired well with my blueberry cake doughnut and coffee :)
ok this actually sounds interesting. I love the male lead actor - haven't seen him in much BUT his portrayal of Frankenstein in HBO's Penny Dreadful was really interesting - Frankenstein is a favorite of mine and he really got the hurt/want to belong note. I will check this out. I was afraid it was going to much more .... well let's just say I didn't think I could watch it .... love love Folk Horror.
I was definitely intrigued by the trailer, now I really want to see it!
I appreciate that you guys understand some of the fear that comes with just being a woman. I've tried explaining it to so many men who just look at me blankly, or try to mansplain why I'm wrong!
I actually tried to reframe how I think of "paranoia" or "fear" in the case of just existing as a woman. I refer to it as "survival instinct" and I'm not sure if this was something we inherited instinctually that maybe we develop it through evolution (there are scientific studies related to the gut feeling of reading someone's bad intentions) or if it's something we develop over time and growing up. But whatever it is, it's like having eyes in the back of our head, which is on a swivel, and the nuance of not making it look like we are as aware of our surroundings as we are (because not looking paranoid is part of the built-in in security mechanism).
Yesss that is how you do a review👏👏👏
I have been waitin for this since vid u guys first posted it what 10 days ago? Funny you should mention black mirror since Rory was in the very first episode. I love Ex Machina & Annihilation (Joseph u need to watch those movies asap..) So ya, I'm a lil less hyped now that I've heard this review but I'll still check it out.
want to give you boys the engagement but will watch this after I’ve seen it. Feel like Alex Garland is an exciting voice in modern horror/sci-fi.
I think I liked it more than you but it was a good review and I like the references you saw in it. For me, it did a great job of evoking the sometimes blinding panic of needing an escape route that isn't always to be had and the often resulting caution-to-the-wind, frustrated anger of 'I can only be terrified for so long before it gives way to the feeling of, sod it then, let's do this', (like when faced with hide and seek, she gives her own countdown and opens the door when she's 'supposed' to run and hide). As to the 'on the nose' metaphor points, I get what you're saying but in all fairness, I don't think Alex was aiming for subtlety.
I'm Glad u did a review since I keep getting this ad the past week on TH-cam constantly.
Also a fun fact if u drink dandelion tea in the first few weeks of pregnancy it can induce a miscarriage so maybe the scene was hinting at something like that
This is true. Parsley & pennyroyal as well.
No subtext , was very heavy handed. I’ll sit with it tho; love your thoughts!
omgg this one was so good, i think I'll watch it. this one could have been an hour long! :))
Really enjoyed this discussion! I'm working on an analysis of this movie as well. Would it be okay for me to use a few short clips from your review in my video?
Sure - just tag us so we can watch it.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews Thank you so much! Uploading it now with you tagged in the description :)
I connected to the emotions in the film. Looking forward to a rewatch to spend more time with the metaphors, although I wonder if it really is as black and white as "all men are the same".
Definitely want to see this movie! Thank you👍🏽
Ooooo I know that face from black mirror season one episode one, with the pig sex #scaredforlife, this move looks interesting. Thank you for posting, you both make me smile, that's such a gift in a progressively dogshit world.
reminder set. this is A24 - kinda worried I won't be able to take this right now.
Wow - thats one of the fastest movierecaps Ive ever heard. :)
Ughhhh I'm SO TORN😫😫 I really really wanna see this and I know it'll be a while before I get to it. Should I patiently wait till I can see it, even tho I'll probably have hyped it up so much in my head I may not enjoy it😬 or just spoil it and watch the review and if it sounds good enough I'll still watch🤔 Hate these decisions 😭😭
I really wish we could get another (longer) vid on this film where Nick expounds on a lot of the ideas he introduces here. I LOVE Alex Garland, but this is definitely his most confounding project to me. I don’t know if anyone else is interested, but I just watched this for a second time with my brother this week (also an Alex Garland fan, his first time seeing this), and we talked in circles about it after, but later I wasn’t able to find any real discussions on TH-cam that I thought were really hitting near the mark. I refuse to believe that AG’s message is simply “Men bad”, but if it’s not, then it’s really hard to decipher what his motivations were, and he hasn’t said much about it himself.
Maybe enough has been said, and it is what it is, but that’s not the feeling I got the second time I watched it recently.
Let Joseph see it and make a review: part 2… if ya wanna. I’d watch. 🙃
Joseph, please see this film if you get the chance! There's so much more to it that you may enjoy (or at least appreciate)
I saw it and I wasn’t crazy about it to be honest I really liked lamb and Midsommar though (other A24 releases)
Lamb is amazingly sad 😢
Garland & Buckley had me sold on this one... But Rory Kinnear puts it on my "Must See" list.
I've been a big fan of his since Penny Dreadful, his performance as Frankenstein's Monster in that show blew me away!
Yes, he was magnetic.
As a woman...I hated this movie lol. Idk why, I feel like there's so many reasons why but I can't pinpoint it to just one but this movie made me want to go rewatch the Office just to be able to get the ick off me.
It could also be because my husband's best friend committed suicide last week and we all wholeheartedly believe that it was his wife's fault because he did the cooking, cleaning, laundry, worked a full time job and every time he was away from her for more than 30 minutes she would call him at least 2-3 times to complain to him about what he was doing wrong or what she needed him to do that she could have just as easily done herself. Women can be assholes too and this one was such a selfish, rude and bully of a person that I think he wanted a divorce but she told him she would take everything from him from his house to his kids and whatever child support she could get. If you're one of these asshole women, do better ladies...
I like your guys thoughts on the film. I honestly thought maybe her husband was cheating on her and her pregnant friend showing up was the clue maybe it was her lol. I’m probably completely off but still thought it was a possibility
That’s what I was thinking too
I watched half of the movie for the first time tonight. Watching the other half tomorrow. I felt sad for Harper but really for all women. I can’t hike by myself because I’m female. I don’t want to even walk in my own neighborhood alone. Men in trucks will slow down as they get close and just stare. I’m thinking, great, is this person trying to kidnap me? Most men, even in 2024, have no clue or even want to understand what women have to worry about.
Btw. The cinematography in this movie is beautiful. The tunnel scene had me on edge. Tomorrow, when I watch the 2nd half, I don’t want to see any more dead animals. 😣
I loved the movie. I haven’t seen a ton of old surrealist films but based on a few, it reminded me of that. The subtext = text… the imagery basically being THE MOVIE… if you look at it as a surrealist film, that isn’t a negative, it’s just how it’s supposed to be.
Just for fun I looked up the trailer, first thought, is this voodoo-ism? lol! Yes, a 'particular' actor in it lead me to that conclusion! ;D Wonder what your opinions, and feel for this plotline will be, informative no doubt!
Someone on Reddit made the connection between all the images of Pan in this movie (pagan god) and how he makes copies of himself
Oh nick you'd really enjoy that really old Brando film. What that filmmaker and Brando did back then just...wasn't done then.
It’s the fact that y’all alone are more entertaining than any movie in the past 3 years
You guys are the best! After I watched this movie I immediately pulled up your TH-cam post. I love hearing both of your insights. As a woman, I had a similar feeling to perhaps the Get Out experience. It was simultaneously traumatic and cathartic to watch the main character be vigilant and afraid with every encounter, simply because she is female. I recognize every version of men in this film, and I will guess that every woman relates with me on that. It is maddening and infuriating, and I wish I could do a cosmic scream that she did, multiple times. I walk away from this film feeling seen, but it makes me sad that so many people/men will walk away from this film “grossed out” or offended or defensive or dismissive. Life imitating art imitating life. Thank you Nick for the women’s studies books and authors - I am definitely going to check that out. And lastly, I am going to check out this writer more deeply - I am amazed that a male writer cared enough to write this film and amazed that he was able to get it right.
Can u guys do a review on an old film called Rosemary's baby they did a remake of it with Zoe Saldana.
That might be a good one for the podcast.
Fun Fact: Rory Kinnear is the son of Mr Salt's actor Roy Kinnear from Willy Wonka (1973). Nice to see Rory has followed his dad into acting - he did a great job in this film! Jessie Buckley was fantastic, too!
Hiya! Have you watched "Severance" ?
No but several people have recommended it.
I’m seeing it on Monday
I want to see this movie. I will say though that I thought it was instant karma her hubby died immediately getting out of pocket and violent with her.
An amazing film. Beautiful, terrifying, thought provoking. F**king loved it
I'm usually pretty wary when men start quoting feminist theorists but Nick, you were spot on! Respect.
I need it to be simple so I’m sure I’ll like this. I loved ex machina.
The Lols!
Bacon reference also the Pope series
I did not like this movie but might have to watch it again. I missed some blatantly obvious things that makes me think I might have been to tired when I watched it.
Seems like A-24 is the it factor for making movies now. Great review 👍
I have to assume much of it has no purpose. Like all art ( artsy fartsy art ) it’s completely just bending reality and open to interpretation.
I kept hoping for a vague Alien landed and keeps trying to learn male female roles thing. Makes a bunch of men and then tries to reproduce to fix itself. Maybe it falls in love with a her and then reproduces itself but doesn’t understand how all this human stuff works. So he is making it up as he goes along and just trying different things.
if i could have got up and left that new kat Williams special I would have, lol
I don't like the idea of hating on men or perpetrating hate on them. I also took women's studies in college but to be honest I have forgotten all about it. Anyhow this movie is not for me. Thank you gentlemen 😊
he is so descriptive. the film about the witch and the other witch lpl
My memory is a process.
My take is if not for the title of “Men” and the super on the nose metaphor of the forbidden fruit and the garden of Eden this could have been a pretty good movie about this ladys trauma with her one man who clearly is a terrible misogynistic narcissist. But to paint this as a condemnation of all men turned it into an off base, pretentious disappointment. Which is a real shame because the cinematography and acting were pretty damn good. This is a destructive message that we see all to often these days. Throw in the fact that her choice of men being her terrible husband was never called in to question. Ball dropped from a film maker whos previous movies Ive loved
haha, your review will release on may 18, I mean, 2 days before "Men" comes to theaters, so I will watch it on may 20 and then just I'll watch your review, ummm... Ok 👌
I just left from seeing this.10 min ago...
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But then we reach his wild, muscular climax-and that’s where things ultimately fall apart.
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I appreciate a director with an actual vision. Last thought: you can't spell Menace without Men. 😏 Looking forward to this.
This movie was so bad. I hope Alex Garland's girlfriend saw the movie though.
I really appreciated this review! Just saw this film last night and was blown away by its message. The symbolism of the woman who is in perpetual danger throughout her existence because religion, societal conventions and all other constraints placed on her, making her vulnerable to the world of men around her. The message is correct that all men are the same and want to be loved, unconditionally, without giving anything in return and the woman is expected to provide this love. Yet, the opening scene with her eating the apple, was a foreboding of things to come, the allegory of Eve and the snake. The fact that even Mother Nature becomes a threat as it's tainted with how it could become dangerous for a woman because men are a part of her world. Brilliant!
Based on the authors Nick is reminded of, I have to ask, is this a Terf movie?
It’s open to interpretation since it’s dealing with binaries.
Thank you for the review. Just walking out of this one and wow what a weird ending. Technically this movie is perfect but I don’t really understand the message that the director is going for
I think I kinda get it. Like all men are the same, the guy Jeffrey played the same role..the men having the baby represents something as well 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
@@mskizzsogood5929 thanks for replying!
I think ur right, I guess what I really mean is that I don’t really know if he meant anything else or more besides that message. What do u think?
@@AntsMovies I agree .this is a really good point. I can see how one would view this . I also feel like he having the baby over and over represented her and she viewed them but then if you notice the last baby that came out was her husband. So I'm like 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
@@AntsMovies I forgot about the religious meaning as well...🤦🏾🤦🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
@@mskizzsogood5929 oh yeah!! That was totally lost of me when I first saw it but after reading a few reviews I think ur absolutely right. And I also noticed all the men basically blame HER for them being assholes to her, which is so f**ked up obviously
So I think we can all agree that Garland is all about details and the cinematography here by all accounts is gorgeous if not perfect. That's Garland saying to us "there are no accidents here and I will tell you the truth. But you're gonna have to find it." However, from Harper's perspective this is not the case. She is saying "whatever I say is truth". But we definitively know this is not the case. In fact, she lies, I submit, more than once. She lies horribly to Geoffrey about playing the piano. She's actually quite proficient. This technique which Garland uses to great effect has become known as the "unreliable narrator."
Now in the church we see the stone podium which on one side has the carvings of the 'green man' and on the other side is what is known as a 'Sheela-na-gig'. This is certainly a certain amount of low level blasphemy imo worthy of its own discussion. But it's not unheard of for local people to inculcate their own folk stories into their local Catholic church. But I digress.
The Sheela-na-gig nobody knows what that really is it's all over the map. However feminists have adopted it as their own because of big va jay jay, and have put new carvings up. What Garland is saying is "no one really knows what a Sheela-na-gig is, so I'll show you one!!" and that's exactly what he proceeds to do and actually what the creature is at the end! A Sheela-na-gig! With a tip to the hat to John Carpenter's The Thing. Where that creature had everybody fooled. Just like the audience for this movie!!
Now, my hypothesis is that the "truth tellers" in the movie are the men actually telling Harper the truth! Take the first conversation with the vicar. James hit her. Yes, it's a battery usually a misdemeanor, but he's right it's not a *capital offense!* Yes it's wrong and unpleasant but people should not be executed for it! So if the truth tellers are the men and Harper is lying, how much lying is she doing?? Well she lied about the piano, and she lied about being chased out of the woods. The cop is quite literally onto her. And she knows it. It's why after the cop stands next to the tree, all the other "forbidden fruits" fall out of the tree! We see two flashbacks. One where she walks out of the woods, and another later on where she is being chased. It can't be both! Which was it?? The vagrant probably was living in those outbuildings she walks by after climbing out (she wasn't running). This rabbit hole keeps on going! Anyway Garland was kind enough to leave a trail of breadcrumbs to the actual horror this movie wants to tell (but can't lol) and it is scary indeed. Garland did not go 4D with this movie - he went 5D!! Garland also pays homage to "The Shining" in this movie as well imo. Garland has "jigsaw puzzled" his previous works and it's no different here!
3rd act ruined it for me
It sounds super lame.
isnt saying "Gay homosexuals" redundant? as oppose to lesbian homosexuals? serious question
Gay = happy
@@fishjellyfilmreviews - oh. word play. got it.
Ex Machina is a 8 5.
Annihilation is a 6.5.
Men is a 5. Not a good sign Senor Garland that each of yout movies sucks more. I am not a actor or director so I give you props for making art, but not a fan of Men.
Good god I am Sooooo glad I have not wasted my time on this crap! Slow burns are ok like Dark Song but this is crap!
Worst movie I’ve seen in years. Literally not one scare just a couple of gory scenes. All these people saying it’s horrifying and a great film are smoking crack..... yea there’s underlying messages but the movie is so stupid and boring you won’t care to even bother figure out what those messages are. Trust me don’t waste your money on this trash you’ll just be disappointed
Preachy, pretentious and idiotic movie. One-sided (never explores toxic female side), no one in A24 Horror films act like a human being (she just watches a guy give birth to other people for 5 minutes and just stands there...doesn't fight or run or do anything) and it was as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face. Boring, plodding and nothing entertaining about this flick.
garbage movie
Can y’all please review Abducted in Plain Sight on Netflix 🫶🏽
We talk about it a little in this review: th-cam.com/video/XtzAp6Io4Uo/w-d-xo.html. Fast forward to the 5-minute mark.