Ah, a favorite of mine. Thayer David, Louis Edmonds, and Jonathan Frid were a brilliant team, and I never tire of watching their characters interact. This is so poignant. I'm a Barnabas fan from '67, so I am delighted when younger fans happen upon 'The Cousin from England' and appreciate him, too. Thanks for posting!
As a child, I was considered "odd" because my two favorite characters (for a very long time) were Barnabas Collins and Capt. Daniel Gregg (the Ghost and Mrs. Muir).
I watched this episode for the very first time last night, after viewing the entire 1795 storyline. This episode reaches almost Shakespearean epicness. Dark Shadows was often dismissed as "just another soap opera". Maybe a little different than others because of the gothic storyline. But the level of acting and the intense drama of this episode, had me riveted. Lou Edmonds and Jonathan Frid acted this beautifully. Together with the entire storyline, this is one of the best DS episodes.
Iam a.man and that.all most had me crying. But i often wonder what type of film. It would have been some blacks in the story i just wonder but good horrow soapopra. Any way. Love it
I love the fact that the same music cue used once Ben closes the mausoleum panel on Barnabas' now chained coffin, is the same one used when Willie unintentionally releases Barnabas from his coffin.
Willie. Was looking. For.julary. it was told that the collins. Family..was. Burry in their julary..so.he went grave.robing..and he got more.than what he was.looking for .it was so horrible. That it chage his life
That last look---(at 4:46) between Barnabas and his father, so real; so haunting. The last looks of our loved ones we lose haunt us thoughout our lives.
007jimmymac Yeah, Joshua didn't look away until Barnabas closed the door. Barnabas and Joshua looked like they were trying to memorize each other's facial features to keep in their hearts
too true. I wondered why Edmunds said that Joshua was his favorite to play. This scene makes it obvious. I was honestly going to quit this show when I found out that Burke and Sam were going to die, but I don't think I can now
Many of the actors preferred their roles that took place back in time. Grayson Hall preferred the role of Magda (the Gypsy woman), Katherine Leigh Scott preferred the role of Josette, and Diana Millay refused to play any part other than Laura (the Phoenix).
Inspector Spinda Well, look at Daniel(1840) and Edward. Daniel was senile and Edward cared more about money than his own family. Roger was paranoid and blamed everyone for the bad things that happened to him. Joshua was the only character Louis Edmonds played that actually had decent character and had character growth. Joshua was perfect compared to Edmonds main three roles.
If you watch this video Edmunds made not long after oral surgery for cancer, you’ll see just exactly why Joshua was and remained till Edmund’s death his favorite character to portray: m.th-cam.com/video/vLdZ1gnn8pg/w-d-xo.html
Joshua had believed he no longer had feelings, but in this scene, you see him dying by inches with each moment he spends with his son. His lost son. He can do nothing for him except either destroy or confine him and it's killing him. Louis Edmonds at his best. And Frid feeds well on the exchange and turns it outward into Barnabas' own barely confined pain.
LordZontar Agreed. The pain and heartache is obvious in Joshua's eyes. I mean, that just that afternoon, Joshua lost the person that was consistent in his life. Losing what he had shared with Naomi, his wife, was too much for him to brood to himself about.
Willie was.a.greedy thief. He thought he was going get .a Prize.persesion..but instead. He got .more than what he bargain. For. Something that change his life forever
@@njpubadjuster3710 actually it would have ended before that because he was on the brink of death when he was posseted by the ghost of Quentin before they went to the 1895 story line.
I've watched this storyline many times. Sometimes, people ask why Joshua didn't die like the rest of his family. I think the answer isn't that he didn't love his son. He definitely did, but he could never show it and that's what saved him.
Was Joshua still being himself as he was more concerned with how he felt, rather than Barnabas' request and the danger posed (which came true) if he were to be released?
atlantic 11561 I mean, surely he knows that mausoleum won’t last literally forever? It’s not indestructible. Even if no one ever stumbles into the room, some day the place would be taken down or something.
there was no way on eorth a parent could kill their own child no matter if he became a monster or not.it was bad enough tryin to forget he was chained in a coffin.just imagine how awful he would have felt destroying his own son
I started watching DS in 1968; my whole 6th grade class rushed home to watch it. Barnabas scared us in fact, all of the vampires in the show were so terrifying that I slept with my rosary around my neck at night. One boy I remember, who wasn't Catholic nor did he have even a plain cross, told our class that he simply slept at night with his fingers shaped in the shape of a cross every night. Our favorite episodes were the costumed ones from the past. Years ago, the Sci FYI channel showed the whole series. Now on streaming and DVD, looking back, I now am grateful for having viewed some of the finest in television programming in my lifetime during the 1960s through 1970s with nighttime soaps taking over later on.
Astraldragon1 Yes, he even tried to say that he loved Barnabas, but was stopped because of Barnabas's own love and fear of his father's life. Joshua died inside as his son rejected his love, you could see it. If I were Joshua, I would have forced Barnabas into an embrace and held him as long as I could.
I wish we knew what happened to Joshua Collins after the 1795 Storyline. I often wondered what Joshua would say if he knew how much Barnabas risked for everyone in the Collins family. I would stand on top of the Mausoleum and shout to the world! "Barnabas Collins is my son!"
In my own personal head Canon I'd like to believe Joshua had one more secret. Daniel was adopted by Millicent's parents and was in reality the son of Jeremiah and Laura Stockridge. Jeremiah was so upset by his wife's death Joshua gave the boy to cousins to raise and thus the original storyline of the Collins branch in the 60's being Jeremiah's descendents is still true.
When Ezra Braithewaite came to Collinwood during the lead-up to the 1897 storyline, David answered the door and Ezra asked to see David's "Uncle Barnabas." David corrected him, saying Barnabas was his cousin. But actually Barnabas was pretty much everybody's uncle. Joshua said he would adopt Daniel. If he did, that made Barnabas and Daniel brothers, and thus Barnabas was the uncle of the first Quentin and Gabriel; the great-uncle of Gabriel's son who was the father of Judith, Edward, the second Quentin, and Carl; the great-great-uncle of Jamison, Nora, Lenore, and Lenore's brother; the great-great-great uncle of Elizabeth and Roger; and the great-great-great-great uncle of Carolyn, David, Tom, Chris, and Amy. Another interesting fact is that clearly I have too much free time.
Jonathan Frid and Louis Edmonds never dated each other. Louis Edmonds had a boyfriend /partner at the time , for twelve years. Jonathan and Louis were both gay, true, but they were just close friends until Louis' passing. Jonathan did not have a long term relationship with anyone.
The 1795 story line and the beginning of Dark Shadows where the best. How Barnabas became a vampire, and up to the time he is chained into his coffin. Also what let up to him being released from his coffin. Excellent acting and episodes.
Remember watching Dark Shadows in the late 60s with mom and my sister ,brothers,and a good friend neighbor David Williams would come everyday it was so scary back then still gets me now i love this show .
Apparently, there was another time in their lives when they quarreled with each other, I gathered! There was a brief conversation in the scene where Barnabas was sick and close to death. Barnabas says something about when Joshua was wounded (in a Rev. War battle, I'm guessing) in the war. He says that they promised each other that they would never quarrel again! It was where Joshua expresses some regret about their more recent quarrel. I picked up on that, and guessed that at some time in the past, there had been some static between them! Barnabas must've been a older child or mid-late teen then, and being at war time only about 15 or 20 years before. Anyway, that was something I surmised on my own, by listening to what the characters were saying in that scene! I don't know if anyone else picked up on that or not?
@@njpubadjuster3710 It's intriguing, since they are fictional, I don't think so. But there is a "Collins" branch grafted on our "Stoddard" tree, way back! Who, or whatever inspired the writers to name the family that, may have known about some people on our family tree! I found out about seven or so years ago, that on my mom's side, there are 3 individuals named Barnabas! And even more of a coincidence, one of them's dad was named Jeremiah! But the problem with that was- their last name was Aldrich, not Collins or Stoddard. Still, it's intriguing!
deal with Barnabas' predicament, and deciding to chain him in his coffin forever, was really one of the best. in fact, that whole travel back to 1795 to Collinwood by Victoria Winters was one of the best period sections of the Dark Shadows series ever. explaining how Barnabas and the Collins family were cursed and tormented by Angelique and how those events shaped what was happening in present-day 1967-71. Well done Dan Curtis & Staff & Cast members: Jonathan Frid, Louie Edmonds, Joan Bennett, Nancy Barrett, Cathyrine
I saw this show when I was in grade school. I never forgot the look on Joshua's face at the 9:00 mark. His family has been destroyed, and he doesn't understand why or even how.
FDzerzhinsky I always thought that Naomi Collins killing herself had more to do with Joshua than with Barnabas's vampirism. Look how he treated her. He insulted her, locked her in her room, outright called her stupid and left to be picked on by the mercy of other's.
i wasnt fortunate enough to be around in the 60s when dark shadows aired.i wsnt born till 1972 but i did see the revival show in 1990 and ben cross was a great barnabas.the gentleman who played barnabas in the original might have been proud of the job ben cross did as barnabas
I wasn't either I was born in 1969 and the show ended when i was 2. I was fortunate enough though that my local ABC station showed it in the late 70's to early 80's ( i was 9 - 12) as filler between The Edge of Night and The Mike Douglas Show in the 4:30 - 5:00pm time slot. Granted they only showed from Barnabas coming on the show to the end of the 1840 time line but it was still most of the series. Now I have the DVD set and have watched It a few times.
I was born I'n the 60s 1965 I. Saw the ariganal I. 1983 on. Wbff TV 45.thanks to my. Mon. And I. Saw 1795.and Barnabas cure of the vampire. Curse.i am. Fortunate to see and know about thank. You Mon. In. The world of spirt thank. You for introducing me to dark shadows
Kathryn Leigh Scott, Alexandra Moltke, John Karlan, Thayer David, Lara Parker, Mitch Ryan, Grayson Hall, and the rest! all did a superb job. simply timeless!
I am Curious to know where the Cross (Medall) that's on Jacket Barnabas is wearing came from, as well as Medal with ribbon in his Portrait in Foyer at Collinwood(New House? )
What a classical masterpiece as a play of a Shakespeare way as to have that one and one dialogue of that discussion with each other, and that is as between Joshua and Barnabas.
that Scene between them was touching.. you can tell how hard it is for Barnabas's father to admit he loves his son. even if he had a hard time showing that in his own way he does care about his son.
@MorganScorpion , would you find it any easyer to kill your own son? dispite what Barnabas became his father still cared for and loved him in his own way even if he couldn't show it.
Astraldragon1 He showed it plenty. He kept throwing caution to the wind to hide Barnabas in the Tower Room. He tried to embrace him twice in the cellar in the Old House, an attempt to comfort Barnabas when he talked about the horrors that he endured every night. He tried to tell Barnabas that he loved him. Joshua Collins was my favorite character, he was gruff, but also very vulnerable at the end.
you should have showed the last part of this where Joshua tells Ben that he has his freedom and that he id giving him $500. A lot of money back in those days. I remember the 1841 story line where ben is old and has a grand daughter. They should have done a story line about Ben and what happened after he got his freedom just to tie it together. Maybe have Barnabas visit Ben's grave and raise his spirit to tell him what is was happening then before he and Julia went back to that time. Also Barnabas could have found out what happened to his dear friend after he was chained up.
I was 5 years old when I watched how Josette jumped from Widows Hill. I learned what death was that morning of the Sci-Fi Channel rerun. Everything else afterward in this storyline of DS was just as powerful. Decades later, I can say I spent several nights and days in the real house called Collinwood. Forever grateful for the living and the ghosts who led me there and here. In this time, the parallel time, and every time beyond....
Joshua's words proved right Willie got into the secret room by accident and found Barnabas and set him free while he was looking for Family jewels......
Yeah they are a great team ^_^ I love them all dearly. Oh my Mom has been a fan that long too awsome!!! She got me hooked at a young age and still i'm crazy for DS! I have an icon that says that and no problem thanks for commenting :)
Johnny Depp may have been a fan of the original show but his movie was too far away from the original series and any true dark shadows fans like myself will see that they took a gothic soap opera and turned it into a comedy even though Johnny said he'd keep it like the original series.
I was more bothered by the plot. I tone I could help dealt with. But if you really think, it is impossible to keep the general original plot, and have barnabas come in, in a first film and have it be good. there is simply too much backstory to be given with vicky and the house and family, and the focus will be all off, which is what happened for the movie.
William Barnard - The Johnny Depp movie disrespected The Dark Shadows franchise. Tim Burton buried Dan Curtis' masterpiece. Johnathon Frid died the same week it came out. The movie was so bad...it killed Barnabas Collins...literally.
If not for Cousin Daniel, the family would have ended with Joshua's death. That's why Barnabas forgiving Angelique was so out of character. She was responsible for him losing his immediate family -- Naomi, Sarah, Jeremiah, Josette, and Abigail.
I was hoping it would be more like the Brady Bunch, The Addams Family, or the Beverly Hillbillies movies from the 90s, but those worked because they were already silly comedies already!
Great acting in the early Barnabas episodes. It was all one take and no edits mostly.The occasional stumbles make it seem more real. Best vampire gig of all time but the all movie versions sucked.
how about part two of the Laura Collins/Angelique fight.. where Laura burns the copy of Angelique and then Angelique causes Laura to age and dissappear after she finds her children missing.
let me state personally, as many of you have already. I was a staunch fan of the original series back from 1968 (when I started watching it, at age 6) until it ended in April of 1971, just a few weeks before my 9th birthday. I knew the climate, the feel of the Original Dark Shadows series, and that movie from Burton and Depp was not even close. it was more like a tongue-in-cheek spoof comedy. hell, you could see that just from the trailers and previews they put out before the crap was released. when i hear people claiming that the film was good and that it was really in line with the original series, I know they are either completely ignorant of The Real Dark Shadows series, or they're just newbies trying to jump on a bandwagon they really don't understand, or they're simply damned fools. DS had a certain aura and feel to its atmosphere, which is why so many of us remember it well still to this day, and continue to view the old episodes over 55 years later! What Dan Curtis and Staff and his cast of great stage/screen actors did was/is unmatched and timeless! I can always tell when folks commenting have completely MISSED THE MARK by their ridiculous comparisons to that 2012 movie, which had NONE of the aura, ether, or cosmic force that the original tv series did. too many folks these days fail to do their homework and due diligence before analyzing and commenting on subject matters, without properly understanding the essence of the subject matter at hand! pity😢
I agree - from the trailers I saw, Burton's film looks very tongue-in-cheek, snarky humor - which totally misses the point of the original show. I don't think that Burton can improve on the original show, at all!
m so My mom watched this show when she was little. She was born in 1965 and Barnabas was added when she was 2. She loved Vampires even as a baby and both Dracula and Barnabas were her favorites. She refused to watch the 2012 Dark Shadows movie at all, said it ruined Barnabas and everything else
Frid had to remain in the coffin after Edmunds closed the lid for the entire scene between Edmonds, and David,. Unlike his character Frid needed air. Of course in those days the audience wouldn’t notice, since they also had no means to “review” such things as is now possible, thus enabling details of that sort to be taken notice of.
@jockboy69 - legally, a marriage can be annulled if it has not been consummated, and Joshua can certainly find a friendly judge to sign the appropriate certificate.
In real life and today you can get whatever.you want done and the collins. Had prestige. And clot and power. So with that little.bs matter...no.problem. He will get that done
They could also annul if the marriage was fraudulent (had "no right basis") -- for example, if one partner was a purported Christian at the time of nuptials, but turned out not to be one, or was a witch, a Gypsy, or even "a man who took woman's dress" and deceived a male partner.
And Johnny Depp said he was a fan of the original and would stay true to the TV Series...all lies...I knew when Tim Butron was announced to direct the movie they would do the comedy stuff...I hate Burton's movies..and they insulted the Original series. a big disapointment.
If only Joshua could have destroyed Barnabas. Maybe in time his broken heart would have mended. But, his love was stronger than his faith to do what was right. Poor Barnabas. He hated what he was
Well of course: and that at least, both Barnabas and then Joshua had enough consideration to free Ben and had enough consideration to admit that Barnabas is a bad person in killing anybody and instead of Joshua is to shoot Barnabas in the heart just as Barnabas wanted it to be so, Joshua had Ben to chained up Barnabas up in the coffin.
So, let me get this straight. He can't bring himself to kill his son, but he CAN bring himself to wall him up alive in a tiny space for all eternity. WTF?
Um.. ok.. Barnabas wasn't really "alive" at this point, he was a vampire, and they're walking dead beings... so, to say he "walled him up alive" is not correct.
Morgan Scorpion I didn't understand it for while, but Barnabas was a safe guard for the family. If Joshua had shot him, the family would been destroyed forever in the 1995 storyline
I think there was a scene when dusk came where Barnabas awoke in the coffin, but unable to move because of the silver cross facing him. He knew that Joshua had betrayed him and left him entombed possibly forever.
This seemed the original plot...chained up in the 18th century....freed by Willie in 1965. However how did Barnabas get out in the 1890s...unless that was just a descendent that wasn't a vampire. It has been 55 years since I watched it.
moe moe He still was Joshua's son, no matter what he was. Joshua still loved him, no matter what. It has nothing to do with having the balls to do something
I thought it was rather refreshing, because the show is very sober, and a little morbid. I thought it was nice to see something fun and campy come out of the show.
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Ah, a favorite of mine. Thayer David, Louis Edmonds, and Jonathan Frid were a brilliant team, and I never tire of watching their characters interact. This is so poignant. I'm a Barnabas fan from '67, so I am delighted when younger fans happen upon 'The Cousin from England' and appreciate him, too. Thanks for posting!
my all time favorite show with out a doubt
As a child, I was considered "odd" because my two favorite characters (for a very long time) were Barnabas Collins and Capt. Daniel Gregg (the Ghost and Mrs. Muir).
@@christinewells-leddon9287 I recently found a dvd of the ghost and Mrs Muir at the library
Love this soap since 1966 and still watching it today in my late 60's!
I watched this episode for the very first time last night, after viewing the entire 1795 storyline. This episode reaches almost Shakespearean epicness.
Dark Shadows was often dismissed as "just another soap opera". Maybe a little different than others because of the gothic storyline. But the level of acting and the intense drama of this episode, had me riveted. Lou Edmonds and Jonathan Frid acted this beautifully. Together with the entire storyline, this is one of the best DS episodes.
Louis Edmonds gave such a compelling performance as Joshua. You can definitely feel his pain.
Iam a.man and that.all most had me crying. But i often wonder what type of film. It would have been some blacks in the story i just wonder but good horrow soapopra. Any way. Love it
He always had that "What the hell is going to happen to me next?" look on his face, and Fate kept answering him. . . .
Emmonds should have received some type of honor for his performance as Joshua Collins in the 1795 story line. Magnificent!
Yes. He was wonderful!
Louis Edmonds is his name.
Yes, his performance as Joshua was my favorite. Especially when he was with Barnabas and Barnabas told him he was a vampire.
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louis edmonds was a great actor I used to love how he was able to cover his mistakes on air with his quick thinking may he rip.
Hooked on the show as a kid, hooked again 50 years later. Only one show can accomplish this.
I love the fact that the same music cue used once Ben closes the mausoleum panel on Barnabas' now chained coffin, is the same one used when Willie unintentionally releases Barnabas from his coffin.
Willie. Was looking. For.julary. it was told that the collins. Family..was. Burry in their julary..so.he went grave.robing..and he got more.than what he was.looking for .it was so horrible. That it chage his life
That is a great observation.
This is one of the most heartfelt episodes in 1795. By far.
That last look---(at 4:46) between Barnabas and his father, so real; so haunting.
The last looks of our loved ones we lose haunt us thoughout our lives.
007jimmymac Yeah, Joshua didn't look away until Barnabas closed the door. Barnabas and Joshua looked like they were trying to memorize each other's facial features to keep in their hearts
Jonathan Frid and Louis Edmunds worked very well together and had some of the best scenes in the show.
too true. I wondered why Edmunds said that Joshua was his favorite to play. This scene makes it obvious. I was honestly going to quit this show when I found out that Burke and Sam were going to die, but I don't think I can now
Many of the actors preferred their roles that took place back in time. Grayson Hall preferred the role of Magda (the Gypsy woman), Katherine Leigh Scott preferred the role of Josette, and Diana Millay refused to play any part other than Laura (the Phoenix).
Inspector Spinda Well, look at Daniel(1840) and Edward. Daniel was senile and Edward cared more about money than his own family. Roger was paranoid and blamed everyone for the bad things that happened to him. Joshua was the only character Louis Edmonds played that actually had decent character and had character growth. Joshua was perfect compared to Edmonds main three roles.
William Barnard I agree. Louis and Jonathan during this time period were fantastic together
If you watch this video Edmunds made not long after oral surgery for cancer, you’ll see just exactly why Joshua was and remained till Edmund’s death his favorite character to portray:
m.th-cam.com/video/vLdZ1gnn8pg/w-d-xo.html
The best acting of the whole series was on exhibit during the 1795 storyline, but especially in the scenes between Jonathan Frid and Louis Edmonds.
True.
Absolutely!! 👏👏👏
Your absolutely right...this is amazing stuff! Why can't popular stuff be as good as this. When did things become so dumbed down?!
Joshua had believed he no longer had feelings, but in this scene, you see him dying by inches with each moment he spends with his son. His lost son. He can do nothing for him except either destroy or confine him and it's killing him. Louis Edmonds at his best. And Frid feeds well on the exchange and turns it outward into Barnabas' own barely confined pain.
LordZontar Agreed. The pain and heartache is obvious in Joshua's eyes. I mean, that just that afternoon, Joshua lost the person that was consistent in his life. Losing what he had shared with Naomi, his wife, was too much for him to brood to himself about.
@Marilyn Willett True, but his sister Abigail treated her mean too!
That look Joshua gives Barnabas at 4:50 breaks my heart.
And so the coffin stayed chained up until Willie discovered the coffin and released Barnabas
Willie was.a.greedy thief. He thought he was going get .a
Prize.persesion..but instead. He got .more than what he bargain. For. Something that change his life forever
@@karltrafton7547 Willie Loomis got more than a prize when he opened this box of Crackerjacks😂😂😂
Joshua's inability to kill Barnabas ended up being the salvation of the Collins family throughout time itself.
But, of course, not right away.
Correct. If Joshua had destroyed Barnabas, the Collins family would have ended with David's death by Gerard Stiles.
@@njpubadjuster3710 actually it would have ended before that because he was on the brink of death when he was posseted by the ghost of Quentin before they went to the 1895 story line.
@@williambarnard1763 well, at that point, they were repeating themselves by rehashing the same storyline.
@@njpubadjuster3710 yes and no
Even though Josh was tough he actually did love his son .. and did the best he could
I've watched this storyline many times. Sometimes, people ask why Joshua didn't die like the rest of his family. I think the answer isn't that he didn't love his son. He definitely did, but he could never show it and that's what saved him.
So rather than put him out of his misery, Joshua chooses to bury his son alive forever? Now THAT is compassion!
atlantic 11561 Can you imagine killing the person that you helped bring into the world and the one you raised?
Was Joshua still being himself as he was more concerned with how he felt, rather than Barnabas' request and the danger posed (which came true) if he were to be released?
atlantic 11561 I mean, surely he knows that mausoleum won’t last literally forever? It’s not indestructible. Even if no one ever stumbles into the room, some day the place would be taken down or something.
Often wondered, wouldn't a vampire die just from lack of blood for 172 years?
there was no way on eorth a parent could kill their own child no matter if he became a monster or not.it was bad enough tryin to forget he was chained in a coffin.just imagine how awful he would have felt destroying his own son
I watched Dark Shadows with my grandmother early 1970's...
This is wonderful Nikki, wonderful and very very touching scenes.
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I watched Dark Shadows from the 1st day to the last...from 1966 to 1971.
Me, too. I just retired from teaching and have started watching the episodes again. Mistakes and all, they are even better than I remembered!
Me too!
I started watching DS in 1968; my whole 6th grade class rushed home to watch it. Barnabas scared us in fact, all of the vampires in the show were so terrifying that I slept with my rosary around my neck at night. One boy I remember, who wasn't Catholic nor did he have even a plain cross, told our class that he simply slept at night with his fingers shaped in the shape of a cross every night. Our favorite episodes were the costumed ones from the past. Years ago, the Sci FYI channel showed the whole series. Now on streaming and DVD, looking back, I now am grateful for having viewed some of the finest in television programming in my lifetime during the 1960s through 1970s with nighttime soaps taking over later on.
Joshua truely loved Barnbas his son even if he never showed it before, you can tell he does while they talk.
Astraldragon1 Yes, he even tried to say that he loved Barnabas, but was stopped because of Barnabas's own love and fear of his father's life. Joshua died inside as his son rejected his love, you could see it. If I were Joshua, I would have forced Barnabas into an embrace and held him as long as I could.
I wish we knew what happened to Joshua Collins after the 1795 Storyline. I often wondered what Joshua would say if he knew how much Barnabas risked for everyone in the Collins family. I would stand on top of the Mausoleum and shout to the world! "Barnabas Collins is my son!"
In my own personal head Canon I'd like to believe Joshua had one more secret. Daniel was adopted by Millicent's parents and was in reality the son of Jeremiah and Laura Stockridge. Jeremiah was so upset by his wife's death Joshua gave the boy to cousins to raise and thus the original storyline of the Collins branch in the 60's being Jeremiah's descendents is still true.
When Ezra Braithewaite came to Collinwood during the lead-up to the 1897 storyline, David answered the door and Ezra asked to see David's "Uncle Barnabas." David corrected him, saying Barnabas was his cousin. But actually Barnabas was pretty much everybody's uncle. Joshua said he would adopt Daniel. If he did, that made Barnabas and Daniel brothers, and thus Barnabas was the uncle of the first Quentin and Gabriel; the great-uncle of Gabriel's son who was the father of Judith, Edward, the second Quentin, and Carl; the great-great-uncle of Jamison, Nora, Lenore, and Lenore's brother; the great-great-great uncle of Elizabeth and Roger; and the great-great-great-great uncle of Carolyn, David, Tom, Chris, and Amy. Another interesting fact is that clearly I have too much free time.
Oops, I neglected to include Judith, Edward, the second Quentin, and Carl themselves.
The characters on Dark Shadows always stayed up all night. When did they sleep?
Seems like they never slept at all.
They stay awake so they don't have to endure the dream curse.
Edmonds and Frid were partners in real life. That was treasure enough for the both of them. Rest in peace you two.
Jonathan Frid and Louis Edmonds never dated each other. Louis Edmonds had a boyfriend /partner at the time , for twelve years. Jonathan and Louis were both gay, true, but they were just close friends until Louis' passing. Jonathan did not have a long term relationship with anyone.
The 1795 story line and the beginning of Dark Shadows where the best.
How Barnabas became a vampire, and up to the time he is chained into his coffin.
Also what let up to him being released from his coffin.
Excellent acting and episodes.
Omg the best scene ever.
What a.classical Shakespeare's type of father and son tale of a epic interest drama.
Oh I agree! I have a feeling that old Shakespeare himself would've relished something like this series! Charles Dickens, too!
Remember watching Dark Shadows in the late 60s with mom and my sister ,brothers,and a good friend neighbor David Williams would come everyday it was so scary back then still gets me now i love this show .
This whole timeline left me with a creepy, eerie feeling...but in a good way. Well done.
He really loved Barnabas. He just never knew how to show it to him or the rest of the family.
Apparently, there was another time in their lives when they quarreled with each other, I gathered! There was a brief conversation in the scene where Barnabas was sick and close to death. Barnabas says something about when Joshua was wounded (in a Rev. War battle, I'm guessing) in the war. He says that they promised each other that they would never quarrel again! It was where Joshua expresses some regret about their more recent quarrel. I picked up on that, and guessed that at some time in the past, there had been some static between them! Barnabas must've been a older child or mid-late teen then, and being at war time only about 15 or 20 years before. Anyway, that was something I surmised on my own, by listening to what the characters were saying in that scene! I don't know if anyone else picked up on that or not?
@@2oldfashgrl Stoddard? Long lost Collins heir?
@@njpubadjuster3710 It's intriguing, since they are fictional, I don't think so. But there is a "Collins" branch grafted on our "Stoddard" tree, way back! Who, or whatever inspired the writers to name the family that, may have known about some people on our family tree!
I found out about seven or so years ago, that on my mom's side, there are 3 individuals named Barnabas! And even more of a coincidence, one of them's dad was named Jeremiah! But the problem with that was- their last name was Aldrich, not Collins or Stoddard. Still, it's intriguing!
deal with Barnabas' predicament, and deciding to chain him in his coffin forever, was really one of the best. in fact, that whole travel back to 1795 to Collinwood by Victoria Winters was one of the best period sections of the Dark Shadows series ever. explaining how Barnabas and the Collins family were cursed and tormented by Angelique and how those events shaped what was happening in present-day 1967-71.
Well done Dan Curtis & Staff & Cast members: Jonathan Frid, Louie Edmonds, Joan Bennett, Nancy Barrett, Cathyrine
I saw this show when I was in grade school. I never forgot the look on Joshua's face at the 9:00 mark. His family has been destroyed, and he doesn't understand why or even how.
FDzerzhinsky I always thought that Naomi Collins killing herself had more to do with Joshua than with Barnabas's vampirism. Look how he treated her. He insulted her, locked her in her room, outright called her stupid and left to be picked on by the mercy of other's.
I remember reading that after the loss of his family, Joshua took to the bottle.
Anyone notice the mauseleum door popped open by itself as Ben finished chaining the coffin?
@@njpubadjuster3710 Where did you read this? I'm curious.
Jonathan Frid -RIP!
Love this. Thanks! You know, by my count there've been 11 versions of D.S. and so far I've liked them all to some extent.
i wasnt fortunate enough to be around in the 60s when dark shadows aired.i wsnt born till 1972 but i did see the revival show in 1990 and ben cross was a great barnabas.the gentleman who played barnabas in the original might have been proud of the job ben cross did as barnabas
I wasn't either I was born in 1969 and the show ended when i was 2. I was fortunate enough though that my local ABC station showed it in the late 70's to early 80's ( i was 9 - 12) as filler between The Edge of Night and The Mike Douglas Show in the 4:30 - 5:00pm time slot. Granted they only showed from Barnabas coming on the show to the end of the 1840 time line but it was still most of the series. Now I have the DVD set and have watched It a few times.
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A very touching scene
Kathryn Leigh Scott, Alexandra Moltke, John Karlan, Thayer David, Lara Parker, Mitch Ryan, Grayson Hall, and the rest!
all did a superb job. simply timeless!
I am Curious to know where the Cross (Medall) that's on Jacket Barnabas is wearing came from, as well as Medal with ribbon in his Portrait in Foyer at Collinwood(New House? )
I always wondered that myself! I figured that it was a family crest, that he was proud to wear. Of course, I don't know for sure!
Barnabas was in the Navy and it was a service medal he received for his naval service
What a classical masterpiece as a play of a Shakespeare way as to have that one and one dialogue of that discussion with each other, and that is as between Joshua and Barnabas.
that Scene between them was touching.. you can tell how hard it is for Barnabas's father to admit he loves his son. even if he had a hard time showing that in his own way he does care about his son.
@1:02 Joshua: "I will have the marriage annulled."
Thank you for your dispensation, Pope Joshua! LOL!
jockboy69 Joshua was one of the most influential people in Collinsport, he gets things done!
@MorganScorpion , would you find it any easyer to kill your own son? dispite what Barnabas became his father still cared for and loved him in his own way even if he couldn't show it.
Astraldragon1 He showed it plenty. He kept throwing caution to the wind to hide Barnabas in the Tower Room. He tried to embrace him twice in the cellar in the Old House, an attempt to comfort Barnabas when he talked about the horrors that he endured every night. He tried to tell Barnabas that he loved him. Joshua Collins was my favorite character, he was gruff, but also very vulnerable at the end.
you should have showed the last part of this where Joshua tells Ben that he has his freedom and that he id giving him $500. A lot of money back in those days. I remember the 1841 story line where ben is old and has a grand daughter. They should have done a story line about Ben and what happened after he got his freedom just to tie it together. Maybe have Barnabas visit Ben's grave and raise his spirit to tell him what is was happening then before he and Julia went back to that time. Also Barnabas could have found out what happened to his dear friend after he was chained up.
fun to notice, the coffin opens from the other side from the origonal scene when willy found him
Poor guy, his heart is breaking with what he has to do!
Poor Joshua. How would you go on living?
I was 5 years old when I watched how Josette jumped from Widows Hill. I learned what death was that morning of the Sci-Fi Channel rerun. Everything else afterward in this storyline of DS was just as powerful.
Decades later, I can say I spent several nights and days in the real house called Collinwood.
Forever grateful for the living and the ghosts who led me there and here. In this time, the parallel time, and every time beyond....
Great scene..
Joshua's words proved right Willie got into the secret room by accident and found Barnabas and set him free while he was looking for Family jewels......
Yeah they are a great team ^_^ I love them all dearly. Oh my Mom has been a fan that long too awsome!!! She got me hooked at a young age and still i'm crazy for DS! I have an icon that says that and no problem thanks for commenting :)
Johnny Depp may have been a fan of the original show but his movie was too far away from the original series and any true dark shadows fans like myself will see that they took a gothic soap opera and turned it into a comedy even though Johnny said he'd keep it like the original series.
I was more bothered by the plot. I tone I could help dealt with. But if you really think, it is impossible to keep the general original plot, and have barnabas come in, in a first film and have it be good. there is simply too much backstory to be given with vicky and the house and family, and the focus will be all off, which is what happened for the movie.
Depp lost his audience to be sure!
William Barnard - The Johnny Depp movie disrespected The Dark Shadows franchise. Tim Burton buried Dan Curtis' masterpiece. Johnathon Frid died the same week it came out. The movie was so bad...it killed Barnabas Collins...literally.
You write we should. Demand a remake of the movie
The hell.with jhonny deep he fucked up..our soap opra horro..mystery and supence episode s the hell with him
If not for Cousin Daniel, the family would have ended with Joshua's death. That's why Barnabas forgiving Angelique was so out of character. She was responsible for him losing his immediate family -- Naomi, Sarah, Jeremiah, Josette, and Abigail.
yes, a very poor writing decision they made disregarding that fact.
I was hoping it would be more like the Brady Bunch, The Addams Family, or the Beverly Hillbillies movies from the 90s, but those worked because they were already silly comedies already!
I.hated the jhonny dip or.whoever.it was a currmy dark Shadows..movie remake and.a.lot of fans hated and thats including.me
I like morbit ghostly vampire..soapopra..romance and horror .and .morbid...no comedy in.that
Louis Edmonds was outstanding in all the roles he played on Dark Shadows, but especially as Joshua Collins, the family patriarch in 1795.
I can't blame old Josh. I couldn't kill my son either, no way!
D.J. Cook Yeah. Why not try another witch to lift the curse?
joshua did what he had to do.barnabas was his son monster or not.there was no way he could kill his son
Great acting in the early Barnabas episodes. It was all one take and no edits mostly.The occasional stumbles make it seem more real. Best vampire gig of all time but the all movie versions sucked.
House of Dark Shadows is a classic. The Johnny Depp version? Not so much...
how about part two of the Laura Collins/Angelique fight.. where Laura burns the copy of Angelique and then Angelique causes Laura to age and dissappear after she finds her children missing.
let me state personally, as many of you have already.
I was a staunch fan of the original series back from 1968 (when I started watching it, at age 6) until it ended in April of 1971, just a few weeks before my 9th birthday.
I knew the climate, the feel of the Original Dark Shadows series, and that movie from Burton and Depp was not even close. it was more like a tongue-in-cheek spoof comedy. hell, you could see that just from the trailers and previews they put out before the crap was released. when i hear people claiming that the film was good and that it was really in line with the original series, I know they are either completely ignorant of The Real Dark Shadows series, or they're just newbies trying to jump on a bandwagon they really don't understand, or they're simply damned fools.
DS had a certain aura and feel to its atmosphere, which is why so many of us remember it well still to this day, and continue to view the old episodes over 55 years later! What Dan Curtis and Staff and his cast of great stage/screen actors did was/is unmatched and timeless! I can always tell when folks commenting have completely MISSED THE MARK by their ridiculous comparisons to that 2012 movie, which had NONE of the aura, ether, or cosmic force that the original tv series did. too many folks these days fail to do their homework and due diligence before analyzing and commenting on subject matters, without properly understanding the essence of the subject matter at hand! pity😢
I agree - from the trailers I saw, Burton's film looks very tongue-in-cheek, snarky humor - which totally misses the point of the original show. I don't think that Burton can improve on the original show, at all!
m so My mom watched this show when she was little. She was born in 1965 and Barnabas was added when she was 2. She loved Vampires even as a baby and both Dracula and Barnabas were her favorites. She refused to watch the 2012 Dark Shadows movie at all, said it ruined Barnabas and everything else
AGREED!!!!
The coffin does not shut all the way
Frid had to remain in the coffin after Edmunds closed the lid for the entire scene between Edmonds, and David,. Unlike his character Frid needed air. Of course in those days the audience wouldn’t notice, since they also had no means to “review” such things as is now possible, thus enabling details of that sort to be taken notice of.
@jockboy69 - legally, a marriage can be annulled if it has not been consummated, and Joshua can certainly find a friendly judge to sign the appropriate certificate.
In real life and today you can get whatever.you want done and the collins. Had prestige. And clot and power. So with that little.bs matter...no.problem. He will get that done
They could also annul if the marriage was fraudulent (had "no right basis") -- for example, if one partner was a purported Christian at the time of nuptials, but turned out not to be one, or was a witch, a Gypsy, or even "a man who took woman's dress" and deceived a male partner.
And Johnny Depp said he was a fan of the original and would stay true to the TV Series...all lies...I knew when Tim Butron was announced to direct the movie they would do the comedy stuff...I hate Burton's movies..and they insulted the Original series. a big disapointment.
Astraldragon1 Amen. Hear Hear! Preach It!
Burton should be kick in his ass..for that. One we should. Ask.Hollywood. or somebody. For a remake because. Burton fucked it up
depp was a fan of the original series.you cant hold him responsible for the mess that movie was.that is squarely on the shoulders of tim burton
But they are a lot dead some are still alive not much I’m so glad 🙂 they are keeping dark shadows alive
Any requests?
could you do one of barnabas and josette when they try to marry
Any scene with Willie Loomis!
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So very sad. ☹ .But then we wouldn't have had this great series.
If only Joshua could have destroyed Barnabas. Maybe in time his broken heart would have mended. But, his love was stronger than his faith to do what was right. Poor Barnabas. He hated what he was
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Joshua also had Laura's name struck from the family records even though she had been married to Jeremiah.
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Well of course: and that at least, both Barnabas and then Joshua had enough consideration to free Ben and had enough consideration to admit that Barnabas is a bad person in killing anybody and instead of Joshua is to shoot Barnabas in the heart just as Barnabas wanted it to be so, Joshua had Ben to chained up Barnabas up in the coffin.
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So, let me get this straight. He can't bring himself to kill his son, but he CAN bring himself to wall him up alive in a tiny space for all eternity. WTF?
Um.. ok.. Barnabas wasn't really "alive" at this point, he was a vampire, and they're walking dead beings... so, to say he "walled him up alive" is not correct.
Morgan Scorpion I didn't understand it for while, but Barnabas was a safe guard for the family. If Joshua had shot him, the family would been destroyed forever in the 1995 storyline
I think there was a scene when dusk came where Barnabas awoke in the coffin, but unable to move because of the silver cross facing him. He knew that Joshua had betrayed him and left him entombed possibly forever.
@@tenhirankei you’re thinking of the 1897 storyline when he awoke after Barnabas of 1969 sent his spirit back to inhabit his 1897 self
but yes, this episode with Joshua having face and deal with Barbabus
This seemed the original plot...chained up in the 18th century....freed by Willie in 1965.
However how did Barnabas get out in the 1890s...unless that was just a descendent that wasn't a vampire. It has been 55 years since I watched it.
If only the Johnny deep movie took this direction instead of the one it used. The camp of the original series wasn’t intended to be!
I thought silver bullets worked on Werewolves, not vampires...
@Sue Taft stake to the heart, not steak
@LordZontar Probably true!
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shot him aready!!! come on don't you have the ball.he is not your son anymore!
moe moe He still was Joshua's son, no matter what he was. Joshua still loved him, no matter what. It has nothing to do with having the balls to do something
he was still his son maybe he was a monster but joshua couldnt live knowin he killed his son could you?
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I thought it was rather refreshing, because the show is very sober, and a little morbid. I thought it was nice to see something fun and campy come out of the show.
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johnny depp's version is more of a comedy which is stupid i think
They made a mockery of.the original. In my opinion
it wasnt his fault it turned out to be a comedy that is on the shoulders of tim buton .you cant blame the actor for the way the director and writer make a movie
well johnny depp did live up to it he was great as usual
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