Hello everyone who is discovering this video - I just want to make one thing clear. The reason the British people were fairly tolerant towards black GIs at this time was because Britain itself was pretty much all white. After the war when the British invited non-white people from the colonies to work their racist attitudes really showed themselves. Read about the struggle of the Windrush generation and the Bristol Bus Boycott if you are interested as well as the multiple race riots that lasted until the 1990’s.
From the standpoint of a black serviceman serving in Britain, the sheer contrast between being constantly humiliated and threatened by American whites and the humane and tolerant attitude of British whites would have been stunning in the 1940's. The fact that many British women were attracted to black men and unafraid to express their feelings just would have been a soothing balm that helped heal some psychological damage. I know the British had their prejudices but by comparison blacks would not have noticed any. The bit at the end about racial strife in 2020 is a bit overblown. Yes, there are still racists in American, of all different races, but nowadays it is regarded as a shameful attitude to have. Racists need to keep there attitudes private otherwise their lives will be difficult . Most of what you see in the numerous BLM/Antifa riots is an attempt to use the issue of race as a reason for starting a Communist revolution. Many blacks in the USA hate BLM because they are Marxist liars. These BLM impostors do not love blacks.
The fundamental thing to learn from this is to rid ourselves of the delusion that the USA is a democratic country when it is clear ly not. The Vietnamese communists weilded that well deserved stick, as African Americans killing other people for a system that didn't exist is absurd. American and British racism whilst from the same coin, are both frustratingly unique to each other, remember colonial America had always had a black population built up mainly through the slave trade sinc e the 17th century. the British Empire at that time related to non white populations through the periphery of it colonies, and so the contemporary relationship of the Windrush Generation and its legacies is a very new phenomenon. It really is a complex task of comparing Apples with Oranges.
"When asked by the Americans to segregate, the Barman responded by putting up a sign saying Black American Soldiers Only" - British Humour and Fair Play at it's finest :)
@@PeterNgola I don't know your politics but a lot of this happened . There's a commemorative plaque outside one of the pubs in Bamber Bridge . Also the locals would be used to the black soldiers without whites , segregated units , and called these polite people yanks . Along comes whitey and things get nasty .
@@PeterNgola it was reported in many locations across England and Scotland including London, Bristol Preston and most famously Bamber Bridge. Just because it doesn't fit the current narrative doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@@JackovdaBoro none of these nations are free from criticism. However, when compared, the US is definitely at the bottom when it comes to the UK. With all of the UK's problems and aristocracy that permits bigotry.
My dad (long gone) a WW2 RN seaman told me the segregation on the docks he saw was blatant with "move out the way boy" a common phrase he witnessed . The Limey sailors hated it and would often specifically ask the Black troops out for a pint down the pub just to spite the US military prejudice. As he said when a German was shooting at you, you didn't give a dam what colour the guy next to you was ,he's on your side and that's what really mattered .
My great aunt married a black G.I. and he never went back to the U.S. he always used to say the British people treat him better than the Americans ever treat him.
Thank you. As a black person from America I thank you for sharing this. A lot of our minority groups fought for America in World War II and sometimes they do not get their honors.
Props. Hurts me to hear that black soldiers...in Europe....supposedly to fight off fascism had to face facism from some their own countrymen. And heartened to hear those northern working class English whites, weren't having none of that shit. And good on the people of Suffolk...for tearing the vicars wife a new arsehole. Only luv.
My teacher married a Black American GI. She taught us children well. We understood the American civil war. The slave trade. Knew our spirituals by 11 years. Greetings from Yorkshire.
@@GabrielReyes-jr5ew funny how a Mexican American wants to call me an "invader". I'm a by-product of the British Empire, while you're a Mexican in America.
Easter Worshipper that’s why the chancellor of Britain the second highest ranking politician in Britain is brown, and why the Home Secretary is brown. Your just a racist moron. Probably got some hate towards Britain cause of the empire. Morons
Easter Worshipper you can’t even type with proper English. It’s clear that your either a Chinese 50 cent troll or just some racist East European wanker. If you are Eastern European this is exactly why we wanted to get rid of you lot. Your racist and have ignorant views. You have nothing to offer to Britain, you don’t bring good food, spices and rich culture like the Indians Chinese and other Asians do. Britain’s national dish is chicken tika masala cause it taste so good. Your Eastern European foods are dog shit. Your culture is trash and we don’t respect you lot that much. The only polish geezer any brits will have any respect for us that Robert geezer who plays for Bayern Munich. Take your racist views and fuck if to a place where it has something to do with you. You dumb cunt.
@Easter Worshipper you get the award for the stupidest comment I have read all year! Britain is extremely ethnically diverse. After the war people came from the Carribbean islands following a call from the British government to come and help rebuild the country. At that time it was a British colony and lots of people of Carribbean decent live here. Most of my friends who are of Carribbean decent are mixed race because where I live there are no areas where people live with only others of the same race. We mostly live next door to one another and there's not a big taboo against interracial dating/marriage like some places I could mention. There was also a call for South West Asians to come and there is a large population of people who came from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. There are also a lot of people from East Asia, particularly China as there must be 100 Chinese run restaurants and take aways in my small city. My immediate neighbours are a mixed race (Carribbean + white) lad I went to school with and his white wife and a middle aged Indian woman with her white husband and their teenage children. Across the country their are people from all over the world. I do not know anyone who is racist and I have only heard someone say a racist comment once and I threw him out of my house. My grandad retired to a tiny village in Cumbria and my grandad said that the people there were racist. This is due to ignorance, living in an isolated place with a tiny population of all white people and never getting to know anybody from a different background. I started school at 4yrs old there where about 20 kids and I can remember everyone and there were 7 kids who were not white. A mix of Indian decent (2), (3) mixed race (both boys and one girl had black dads and white mums) and a girl and a boy (2) whose parents were both black British of Carribbean decent. As I grew up with a mix of different ethnicities I was colour blind and didn't differentiate between people with different skin colours. We all played together, there wasn't any segregation. If there was any segregation it was girls played together and boys played together- as they do at primary school age. Your comment is totally uninformed and I have just informed you that you're wrong!!!
I am proud to be British and a veteran. Racism has never been part of my life. I've had close friends, colleagues and neighbours of different nationality, religion or colour. I know the UK has done wrongs and made mistakes in the past, but that doesn't change who I am and how I respect others.
@camrenwick: Thank for posting! It all starts with the individual. When doing wrong is the norm, as it has been in the US and in other places in the world, it is often difficult to see. Once one does see, doing right often takes more courage than the average person can summon up in the face of so much risk for so little personal gain. I wish that more people would accept the fact that we shape the world we live in by how we choose to treat others, instead of waiting on higher powers, society, protest movements, or enlightened leaders to save us from ourselves.
I live in Preston and I am proud of my fellow Prestonians for not endorsing Jim crow laws. I have read about this account in the local paper and the bullet holes in the Halifax bank at bamber bridge.
Not too many though. We can't allow ourselves to be demographic replaced. We went from being 99.9 English in 1950 to being only 70% English in 2020. That's a very worrying trend and it cannot continue. There is no England without English people.
Because there was no racism in India, Hong Kong or South Africa. "For me, soldiers are all equal. Those black people wore your same uniform, fought on your side, and so you will be in the same jail." Erwin Rommel response to a request from white South African officers to be quartered separately from black enlisted men.
Some of these stories I know all too well. I'm African American. My Dad was a Sgt. Major, (one of the top ranks for enlisted troops) Quarter Masters. His unit was attached to Gen. Patton's 3rd Army during the "Battle of the Bulge", my Dad earned four (4) Bronze Stars, Purple Heart. One of my uncles served with my Dad, U.S. Army, another uncle served U.S. Navy at that time. Korean War, another uncle served 82nd Airborn, and another, (dads younger bro.) served U.S. Airforce. I'm a former active duty U.S. Marine, (Viet-Nam vet.) along with my other four brothers, U.S. Marines. We all work hard like a lot of Americans, to make this country of ours a more "perfect union", and we'd all be proud to serve again. We have all sorts of growing pains as a nation but you must remember, we're a young nation (247 years as a Republic) also remember we're a people government. So it's up to the good people in this country of ours to do the heavy lifting, NOT POLITICIANS. We are the most diversified country in the world. So thanks to all those who have taken time to read what this 76 yo. had to say.
Thanks for your story. What was your experience like during your service, and did the other veterans in your family ever share stories of negative experiences they had with stuff like racism? I would be very interested to hear about it all
Hi, I'm a former member of Her Majesty's Armed Services and a retired British Police Officer. Just in case no white guy has ever said it. Thank You all for your Service Brothers. My regards.....
That’s great! I’m so glad I could help you with this information. I don’t know what your lesson is on but it’s good to remember we in the UK had our own troubles with racism after the war due to an influx of commonwealth migrants we asked to come over to help rebuild the country. There was something called the ‘Bristol Bus boycott’ in the 1960’s which took inspiration from the Montgomery Bus Boycott. And if it helps you in any way - I uploaded my script for this video if you wanted to use it to make your own PowerPoint etc: thekavernacle.wordpress.com/2019/02/21/when-american-soldier-tried-to-bring-jim-crow-to-britain-during-world-war-ii/
The Kavernacle, I’m a World History teacher and we are on our WWII unit. I’m also doing cross curricular lessons focusing on black history month projects with the reading and writing teachers. My students are primarily African American boys with special needs. Their teachers in the past have sugar coated far to much and are finally being exposed to the truth. I appreciate the hard work you put into this ❤️
J S1974 I gave up teaching my students from their text books after the first week of school. They don’t need the watered down whitewashed bullshit that rich men deem to be our history. My job is to prepare them for the real world and we know the truth isn’t so pretty. I always tell them that if they feel comfortable with our nations history, then I’m probably not teaching it right. My school is 85% male African American inner city students, they especially need to know.
I actually experienced this sort of thing in the early 1980,s. I joined other Brits working in a South African Steelworks during the apartheid period. We started cautiously with doorways. There were often two doors into the same space. One marked Europeans and the other None Europeans. Being British and so not European we always used the None European door. We were supposed to eat in segregated mess rooms. There were three - Whites, Indian and Coloured, then Black. We would open the white mess room door and pretend to vomit arguing that we cannot eat surrounded by such disgusting people and then go and sit with the Africans. They were much friendlier anyway. Black Africans were generally called ‘Boys’ so we took to calling ourselves ‘The Boys’ in order to spread confusion. Eventually the management gave up on us and we more or less mixed with whoever we wanted.
MrAllthatnmore Prime Minister Thatcher was not just closing down the coal pits, but also the Steelworks. This was a bad period many Brits. “Get on your bike and look for work “ was the government message and so I joined thousands of other unemployed people flooding the airports. My application to Australia was taking too long and so South Africa is was.
My father fought in WWII and did not receive the GI bill. My brother fought in NAM and he had severe PTSD. Both men was black. Fought for a country that did not respect them. I had to register for selective service. No way was I going to fight over oil. Those men returned home second class citizens. That's America.
@jerrylumpy5141: Thank you for posting! Far too many of these stories bout anti-black racism have the all American feel good Hollywood ending. In most cases there was no justice and not even any admission of wrong doing or harm. Ordinary black people playing the hand dealt them from cradle to grave. The anti-reparations people and those who fling around epithets like "race card" and "culture of victimhood" don't like dealing with real history or with its consequences for real people. That doesn't suit the agenda of the zero sum game they are playing.
DEMOCRATS have never been Americans - - - Robert Byrd, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died Monday at 92. While he was most famous as a master of the Senate’s obscure rules, Byrd wore many hats during his lifetime, including that of Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan. What are the job responsibilities of an Exalted Cyclops? He presides over the Council of the Centaurs and writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant. In the Klan hierarchy, each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops. This member is typically elected by his fellow Klansmen and serves a one-year term. According to the original 1867 Prescript of the Ku Klux Klan, the Exalted Cyclops reports to a Grand Giant, or provincial leader; a Grand Dragon, or state director; and the Grand Wizard, or national chair. Below the Cyclops on the org chart were the Grand Magi, the Grand Monk, the Grand Exchequer, the Grand Turk, and, finally, the rank-and-file members known as Ghouls or Knights. (Many of these titles have changed over time, and most of the sub-Cyclops ranks have been eliminated.) The Exalted Cyclops’ responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs-that’s Klan-speak for a jury-to try and punish wayward Ghouls. Robert Byrd, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died Monday at 92. While he was most famous as a master of the Senate’s obscure rules, Byrd wore many hats during his lifetime, including that of Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan. What are the job responsibilities of an Exalted Cyclops? He presides over the Council of the Centaurs and writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant. In the Klan hierarchy, each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops. This member is typically elected by his fellow Klansmen and serves a one-year term. According to the original 1867 Prescript of the Ku Klux Klan, the Exalted Cyclops reports to a Grand Giant, or provincial leader; a Grand Dragon, or state director; and the Grand Wizard, or national chair. Below the Cyclops on the org chart were the Grand Magi, the Grand Monk, the Grand Exchequer, the Grand Turk, and, finally, the rank-and-file members known as Ghouls or Knights. (Many of these titles have changed over time, and most of the sub-Cyclops ranks have been eliminated.) The Exalted Cyclops’ responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs-that’s Klan-speak for a jury-to try and punish wayward Ghouls. Despite the specific duties laid out in the Klan’s founding documents, there’s no way of knowing exactly what Byrd did as Exalted Cyclops. Klaverns have clashed with the central office throughout the Klan’s history, and there’s plenty of evidence that many chapters operated on a much less formal basis than the Prescript and subsequent manuals suggest. The meeting agenda for a typical Klavern in the 1940s, when Byrd was an Exalted Cyclops, would have included a discussion of black or Jewish outrages against native-born white Protestants. Democrat race hustlers Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton foment black victimhood. The party promotes racial identity politics because of the abject failure of its policies which continues to hurt black people and shows its continued contempt for blacks. Opposition to school choice keeps blacks in failing schools. Politically correct policing has left blacks as victims to violent crimes. In 2019, 9 unarmed blacks (the number is 19 for white people) were killed by police while more than 2,000 blacks were murdered by other blacks in 2018 and Democrats have had monopoly control of ALL the cities we hear and see about black plight: Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit...
Should talk about the similar issues we had with this in New Zealand. We even had a massive riot in Wellington called the battle of Manners st. While officially there were no casualties, there are Six US marines buried in Wellington cemetery who were killed on the same day
Americans points to Maori: we don't want them in this bar. Everyone else, in the bar, in Manners Street, in NZ their native land: so you have chosen death.
The shootouts were between USA troops. The British locals in the pub and the British service people there were against the the American GI’s Trying to arrest their own black troops. They were welcomed all over the country, this was not an isolated incident of the public not accepting this behaviour of racism from the USA. U.K. history shows that the British never accepted slavery on U.K. Soil, and actively fought to abolish slavery around the world. History is history, one cannot change the past, good or bad, but the past needs to be remembered so that (hopefully) bad things do not get repeated. To do this people need to work on the ‘positives’ to be gained and the lessons learned. The people in Britain generally treat everyone with respect, it’s what that person does with that respect that defines whether it increases or falls, regardless of religion, race or colour.
I have worked with the US services in the last twenty years , they still have the segregationist mindset , the Blacks and Whites hardly mix , when they go ashore in Plymouth they are separate , my contrast the Royal Navy all go out together.
I've known about jim crow in the us army since the early 1980s when I became interested in the civil rights movement and era while at secondary school so it's nothing new to me but its still upsetting to think this happened.
I'm from bamber bridge lived there for 24years, still live near by in Leyland. this is a famous legend here abouts, The pub The Hob inn is still a working pub. which iscwhere it all started. Us northerners will accept anybody race colour or creed. The landlords of the pubs in bamber bridge ( place of the riots) had signs saying black troops only!
Loved the vid mate, pretty shocking how fucked America were (obviously things are still bad but not AS bad) but I’m glad to see Britain didn’t discriminate against people fighting and dying for freedom
Yes still fighting for rights till this day, some say things havent changed in 50 years, some 150 years, some 400 years. Maybe we'll get it right sometime
I am honored by my Irish, Scottish, and Irish-English ancestry. I'm also proud to identify as an African American man with Indigiounis Native American [Mayan/Hopi/Columbia] roots. That being said, in all of my travels across the globe, I have never experienced more racial 'hate' than when I served in the US Army, from other Americans while dwelling in the USA and as a soldier or a civilian. Yet, I never experienced more camaraderie than when I was an Active Duty soldier in the US Army. I found that when soldiers are alone, away from their ethnic peers and popular propaganda they [soldiers] find in the adverse situations a 'commonality' that surpasses color, sex, hue, sexual persuasion, creed, political beliefs, and or religion. We all bleed for the ideal of fellowship. Make no mistake, I am not a warmonger or a narcissist. I'm referring to the age-old belief, paraphrased of course, "He [they] who shed [his/her] blood with me, this day...is my brother (or sister)" [sic]. We live in extreme times. One person no matter how righteous or justified could potentially destroy a nation or race people or even the world with the flip of a switch. Yet, despite this we as human beings, have learned to incorporate our commonalities, instead of our differences. We have adopted our distinctness and embraced our uniqueness, for the betterment of all peoples, no matter how obscure. For we are 'all' one race and even though we may not be related, we are still family.
@@fil_britbunnyboi872 there isn't a country on earth that hasn't had slavery the Brazilian Empire had it until the 1890s take your guilt tripping somewhere else.
There isn't any the Democrats and left wing America is doing their best to create one though. I've heard more people say white problems, white privilege, white people, than I've ever heard racial slurs and I've been all over.
But how many countries legalized racism after emancipation, how many countries had laws discriminatory to former slaves and their descendants up to pst the middle of the 20th century, how many countries had racist and anti miscegenation laws that served as role models for the Nazis???
During the war, Britain relied on over seas soldiers ( from the Empire ) who fought and died for this nation. My great grand-dad with his proud Turban (Sikh ) died in Europe fighting the Nazis. The battle of Britain defeating the luftwaffe , we did not have pilots but many 'foreigners' came to our shores to fly our planes. I am an Indo-Brit born here. Nowadays hardly get any racism, if I did I would smash the bigot(s) , ain't taking that shit.
Apparently the us soldiers wanted the Jim crow laws brought into Britain asking pub landlords not to let B Sacks in the pub, the land lord responded with notices saying " Blacks only ,this caused tension amongst the white and blacks so there a battle i I think maybe this obviously in london or south but lancashire had helped the cotton workers in the southern states during the cotton famine during the American civil war maybe the black descendants remembered the aid they received lancashire cotton workers carried on the kindness. It might have been vice versa
fun fact: in ww1 the German army where so impressed by the hard fighting spirit of the "Harlem Hellfighters" they literally where the guys who called them THE HARLEM HELLFIGHTERS. THEN echoing what the VIet kong would later do they even tried to recruit them. "Why fight for a homeland that hates you?" was in the pamplets distrubited by the then Imperial (not nazi) German Army. Og and there are African Americans who escaped the US and nato completely and moved all the way to the soviet union. watched very interesting interview with some of their descendant on RU (which is of course just putin propaganda so you can ignore it). Fun fact that peple don;t want to hear the Russian Federation has a TON of ethnic gorups none of whom have to put up wth the kind of bullshit these poor bastards did. most cofnlcit in Russia has been of the poltical and idological variety not about race. so the long story short: Racism EXISTS IN THE US always has. anybody who tried to fight against it was with rare exceptions like the Civil war when the enitre country split apart over the issue of slavery was beaten whipped tortured and often killed. this is one of the MANY reasons JFK was killed. saoem thing with any number of outgroups. any time you get a wave of new imgrants in the US (frankly in most countreis this is somehwat true as well) you get a sudden upsurge in racism and hate crimes directed towards "those people".
In the timbers of the bank not “the woods” !! Come on get it right. The experience of US black troops in the UK meant that they were not going to accept things as they were when they were demobbed in the US! This helped spark up the civil rights movement in the US.
Great reporting ! I've lived in the United States all my life & have been fully-aware of this country's ugly past ... but I only had a limited knowledge of the history of Black soldiers in Britain & the particular insidious nature of American International Racism. Thank you, Kavernacle !
this video reminds me that in a stand for justice and equality you will always find allies and understanding of plights. great vid in support of a healthy cause.
Even when I visited New Orleans in the mid 2004 I was shocked how the Americans were so racisist !! And none had a passport just an idea about Britain & Europe ! 🇬🇧 I love Jamaica 🇯🇲 and the culture that came to Britain 🇬🇧 America have no idea the black GIs were shot at Shepton mallet prison in Somerset !! 🇬🇧
Thank you for your service and to anyone who dare fight against he Nazi regime, speaking of which many of the RAF squadrons were made up of polish people and yet they too were also forgotten
Yep most Brits favored the repatriation of the Polish pilots that helped saved them... not the vast majority.. 45% strongly opposed that measure... but yes these incidents in the video are true and the British, Australian and NZ treated the US African-American soldiers better than the USA did... Truman said enough was enough and issued executive order 9981(in 1948)to desegregate the US military and in 1989 Colin Powell became the first African-American chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... The British also stood up to Nazi fascism well before us Americans did but many Americans snuck over to the Uk to fight... The Eagle Squadron
@@pjtel9500Colin Kaepernick kneels because certain people want to continue to portray a romanticized image of United States history that isn't as kind or as noble as many of them would like to be reminded of.
@Héctor Santa Ana Hector it's very unfortunate that many people just won't recognize what is true. I'm glad that you have been able to learn what you have learned where you are. Not saying that America is ALL bad, but nobody and nothing is perfect. All of the things you mentioned actually happened, and people like Kaepernick are true American patriots because they remind us of that. Be well. 😊
See this is the kind of stuff that white America does not want the rest of Americans to know about. The history is deep wide and hard and I feel we all should know the facts as to some of the reasons blacks have always had to fight for what we have gotten
Reminded of when my father in the army. Now he did say some racist things but was sickened by how he saw how some of them treated even to the point when barracks were shared on bases between US and UK, messes were made available to black US troops. This is back in the 1950's before I was born It makes me heart-sick now when I see racism now when it's based on the US model. Usually based on the rhetoric of the long past of how blacks are lazy and all the other rubbish. In one of my Jobs as a baker I met 2 BNP members who mostly kept their ideas to themselves but of course sometimes it would come out and it was all stuff that you can read now on extreme right wing US sites plus their own twist on pakistani's being sent back ( had to point out to them that Sikh's were not pakistani) Strange thing was, they did like two-tone and reggae... the mind boggles, they said they can bring their music but not themselves Racial purity is a curiosity when being anglo-saxon or my case anglo-irish denotes a mixed race to begin with
Ah that’s really awful. And yeah BNP aren’t around anymore really but in reality it’s just been replaced by UKIP I think some people can differentiate different culture they like from their racist beliefs which is weird but seems to happen often. Trump loves Mike Tyson.
racism in america will never end i think blacks should move away from all of it and let the racist have their utopia they will see how much the government doesn't care for them either 🤦🏻♂
Yeah my grandfather said they rode on the same buses and trains overseas but when they got back in the south they separated everyone by race. Also he said the new york and Chicago blacks had great fun beating the hell out of white soldiers that called them the Nword to their face overseas. They stating we arent at home now you wont get away with that shit.
@@dannybrooks1847 Black Americans are still more successful, by a huge margin, than any other black people in the world. Last time I check, Americans voted a black president overwhelmingly, two times. So what do you mean "racism in america will never end".
@@pjtel9500 after what's been happening all over the news recently and you have a nerve to say something as dumb as that? I'm not even going to glorify your responses since you must be living under a rock.
Racial segregation was practiced with the greatest rigour in South Africa, where, under the apartheid system, it was an official government policy from 1950 until the early 1990s. Racial segregation in the USA was officially illegal after 1862, but using loopholes in that ruling in the 1920s, however there were "still" so many loopholes allowing segregation in schools, jobs, housing, sitting next to whites, especially, but not only, in particular States usually in the South and "Trumpland". There are racial people everywhere, but I've been to the States often (I'm white), and many racists there always expected me to have the same opinion. I'll never forget when I went to the Mardi Gras in New Orleans how 2 pretty girls came up to my friend and I and 5 minutes later one said quite blatantly the festival would be great if it wasn't for those "niggas".
@Blaze Temp yeah KKK is still burning crosses killing black people cops are still harassing black soldiers both Republicans and Democrats are corrupt ya'll should just get a third party at this point
Valuable historical lessons about British values and the unimportance of the colour of people’s skin completely lost on the bloke narrating as he swerves off course and straight into something, something, Donald Trump is a baddie…. Honestly Mate?
The British are also insanely racist like Trump - look at my pinned comment. And yes Trump always dog whistled to far right militias. If you can’t see Trump is a racist there is no hope for you
I thought that this was an informative, fair and well researched video for the most part and I applaud Kavernacle for his work here. However, the Trump reference was baseless and unnecessary, given the context of the subject matter and actual bigotry. A bit of a slap in the face to half of the American public.
Irony is the fact that the British treated the troops of their colonies worse while treating the black soldiers of the American Army with respect And also the irony is that American,who treated their black soldiers in a bad manner,used to behave respectfully with the locals of the British colonies,when they were stationed there.
Racism and discrimination is just an absolute joke. We are all flesh and bone. Being a veteran I did and would be happy to fight alongside anyone willing to fight beside me.
sonny d yeah but does not excuse how British people treated black immigrants coming over because the British government asked them to to rebuild the country...
@@TheKavernacle every country would act negatively to large immigration from people of a different skin colour, Asians, Africans too. It's just human nature.
Black US Air Force pilot Fred V Cherry was a POW in Vietnam and his white bunk mate Porter Halyburton(from the South) became the best of friends and the NVA and VC propaganda did not break them.... they went around the USA after the war to tell their story...
There were plenty African American combat units during the war 92nd Infantry Division "Buffalo Soldiers" fought in Europe, 93rd Infantry Division fought in the Pacific, 761st Tank Battalion "Black Panthers" fought in Europe and the 762nd Tank Battalion which fought in Europe this isn't counting the countless support Troops that were made up of black American soldiers.
Bamber Bridge is a satellite town of Preston and not in Preston - that footage at the start was terrifyingly old and featured the three towers that were demolished a long time ago. They were known as 'Crack Towers'. Ironically because a (possibly Jamaican) drug gang had taken over the top few floors of at least one of them. It was a bit like the Dredd film thinking about it!
The US South had many more dealing with Africanized DNA than England did but recently it is starting to catch up. Enoch Powell warned about it too. Even Albert Schweitzer said racial equality was impossible--and modern South Africa is proof of that. The European soldier of 1945 had no idea they were fighting and dying to bring rape epidemics and muslim invaders, but some did--Charles Lindbergh, Ezra Pound, George Orwell--they could read the signs.
Still didn't want the British civilians interacting too much with the Americans. Nah son, say what you mean, Black men and white women. No need to speak in code.
More propaganda, pure and simple. Though some were treated as second class citizens my people were massacred by the millions. But polish people are white, so white privilege and stuff. Never mind that there are exceptions to the rule of the race hustler. Not to mention the lack of men in Europe as so many died. Foriegn soldiers really had their way, this isn't even hyperbolic. I'd also like to remind people that this was the greatest reward for fighting, the comfort of a female. .Because if tomorrow you die, you have at least past on your Genetics and hopefully stayed to support them. Hard to do unfortunately, we're not conditioned for such a lifestyle.
@AngloGirl85UK What ?. The Bs was for someone saying that he was racist and i am saying he is not. For the exact same reasons you just said. Should see who i was replying to 1st.
I've read on his history he's probably one of the most racist presidents we've had in 50 years most of his life he's been racist that not even 4 years of presidency will ever make up for it
That “No Blacks, no dogs, no Irish” is a gross exaggeration. During the war especially, there was a housing shortage, plus poverty among just about everybody, house owners were poor as well. Practically every house owner took in lodgers to help with money. The trouble is, a lodger lives in your house, uses your kitchen and of course, your lavatory. Many black and Irish people were less interested in personal hygiene, many had never used a flush toilet. That’s why the signs existed. And it’s obvious why a home owner would likely not want a dog in their home. They were not comparing people with dogs. I lived in those days. Everyone had lodgers.
Hello everyone who is discovering this video - I just want to make one thing clear. The reason the British people were fairly tolerant towards black GIs at this time was because Britain itself was pretty much all white. After the war when the British invited non-white people from the colonies to work their racist attitudes really showed themselves. Read about the struggle of the Windrush generation and the Bristol Bus Boycott if you are interested as well as the multiple race riots that lasted until the 1990’s.
From the standpoint of a black serviceman serving in Britain, the sheer contrast between being constantly humiliated and threatened by American whites and the humane and tolerant attitude of British whites would have been stunning in the 1940's. The fact that many British women were attracted to black men and unafraid to express their feelings just would have been a soothing balm that helped heal some psychological damage. I know the British had their prejudices but by comparison blacks would not have noticed any.
The bit at the end about racial strife in 2020 is a bit overblown. Yes, there are still racists in American, of all different races, but nowadays it is regarded as a shameful attitude to have. Racists need to keep there attitudes private otherwise their lives will be difficult . Most of what you see in the numerous BLM/Antifa riots is an attempt to use the issue of race as a reason for starting a Communist revolution. Many blacks in the USA hate BLM because they are Marxist liars. These BLM impostors do not love blacks.
@@michaelk969 Ermm... Have you seen who is President right now? Who dog whistles to fascist militias...?
Just like in WW 1 Korea the white GI s the beast told them that the black soldiers were the enemy.
The fundamental thing to learn from this is to rid ourselves of the delusion that the USA is a democratic country when it is clear ly not. The Vietnamese communists weilded that well deserved stick, as African Americans killing other people for a system that didn't exist is absurd.
American and British racism whilst from the same coin, are both frustratingly unique to each other, remember colonial America had always had a black population built up mainly through the slave trade sinc e the 17th century. the British Empire at that time related to non white populations through the periphery of it colonies, and so the contemporary relationship of the Windrush Generation and its legacies is a very new phenomenon.
It really is a complex task of comparing Apples with Oranges.
@@TheKavernacle The left does the dog whistling.
"When asked by the Americans to segregate, the Barman responded by putting up a sign saying Black American Soldiers Only" - British Humour and Fair Play at it's finest :)
Squaddie humour.
"I dont mind the yanks, but i don't care much about the white fellows they brought with them."
I call bs it even happend
@@PeterNgola I don't know your politics but a lot of this happened . There's a commemorative plaque outside one of the pubs in Bamber Bridge . Also the locals would be used to the black soldiers without whites , segregated units , and called these polite people yanks . Along comes whitey and things get nasty .
@@PeterNgola it was reported in many locations across England and Scotland including London, Bristol Preston and most famously Bamber Bridge. Just because it doesn't fit the current narrative doesn't mean it didn't happen.
"Don't mind the Yanks but I don't like those white fellas they brought with them." UK WWII quote.
Lol. Don’t forget what you did to your colonies
@@kthevsamig4958 what? you mean ending slavery? yes I can see how some can that being a tragedy
@@bokvarv1926 The british legit started the slave trade
You’re cringe, look at the state of UK do you feel like you’re winning?
@@JackovdaBoro none of these nations are free from criticism. However, when compared, the US is definitely at the bottom when it comes to the UK. With all of the UK's problems and aristocracy that permits bigotry.
My dad (long gone) a WW2 RN seaman told me the segregation on the docks he saw was blatant with "move out the way boy" a common phrase he witnessed .
The Limey sailors hated it and would often specifically ask the Black troops out for a pint down the pub just to spite the US military prejudice.
As he said when a German was shooting at you, you didn't give a dam what colour the guy next to you was ,he's on your side and that's what really mattered .
I call bs
@@PeterNgola You're not very specific .
@@PeterNgola You call a lot of things.
@@PeterNgola fuck off
@@PeterNgola I'm surprised you can walk straight carrying around that massive chip on your shoulder
My great aunt married a black G.I. and he never went back to the U.S. he always used to say the British people treat him better than the Americans ever treat him.
Well even though he didn’t return to the USA I salute him for fighting for us
Yeah right. LMAO
I don't blame him. Many US soldiers stayed in Europe after the war as most experienced the same your grandfather did.
Hope the US didn't try to tax him in the UK, they like to do that to their citizens working abroad
And I'm sure most brits wouldn't have it any other way.
Thank you. As a black person from America I thank you for sharing this.
A lot of our minority groups fought for America in World War II and sometimes they do not get their honors.
Props.
Hurts me to hear that black soldiers...in Europe....supposedly to fight off fascism had to face facism from some their own countrymen.
And heartened to hear those northern working class English whites, weren't having none of that shit.
And good on the people of Suffolk...for tearing the vicars wife a new arsehole.
Only luv.
@@petergleave3198 Props?
@@PeterNgolaProps = proper respect or proper recognition for another person; an expression of approval
And they should be as much as anyone else as we are all human beings.
My teacher married a Black American GI. She taught us children well. We understood the American civil war. The slave trade. Knew our spirituals by 11 years. Greetings from Yorkshire.
Good to know
Thats why I'm proud to be Black British, i wouldn't have it any other way
@@GabrielReyes-jr5ew funny how a Mexican American wants to call me an "invader".
I'm a by-product of the British Empire, while you're a Mexican in America.
Easter Worshipper that’s why the chancellor of Britain the second highest ranking politician in Britain is brown, and why the Home Secretary is brown. Your just a racist moron. Probably got some hate towards Britain cause of the empire. Morons
Easter Worshipper you can’t even type with proper English. It’s clear that your either a Chinese 50 cent troll or just some racist East European wanker. If you are Eastern European this is exactly why we wanted to get rid of you lot. Your racist and have ignorant views. You have nothing to offer to Britain, you don’t bring good food, spices and rich culture like the Indians Chinese and other Asians do. Britain’s national dish is chicken tika masala cause it taste so good. Your Eastern European foods are dog shit. Your culture is trash and we don’t respect you lot that much. The only polish geezer any brits will have any respect for us that Robert geezer who plays for Bayern Munich. Take your racist views and fuck if to a place where it has something to do with you. You dumb cunt.
@Easter Worshipper you get the award for the stupidest comment I have read all year! Britain is extremely ethnically diverse. After the war people came from the Carribbean islands following a call from the British government to come and help rebuild the country. At that time it was a British colony and lots of people of Carribbean decent live here. Most of my friends who are of Carribbean decent are mixed race because where I live there are no areas where people live with only others of the same race. We mostly live next door to one another and there's not a big taboo against interracial dating/marriage like some places I could mention. There was also a call for South West Asians to come and there is a large population of people who came from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. There are also a lot of people from East Asia, particularly China as there must be 100 Chinese run restaurants and take aways in my small city. My immediate neighbours are a mixed race (Carribbean + white) lad I went to school with and his white wife and a middle aged Indian woman with her white husband and their teenage children. Across the country their are people from all over the world. I do not know anyone who is racist and I have only heard someone say a racist comment once and I threw him out of my house. My grandad retired to a tiny village in Cumbria and my grandad said that the people there were racist. This is due to ignorance, living in an isolated place with a tiny population of all white people and never getting to know anybody from a different background. I started school at 4yrs old there where about 20 kids and I can remember everyone and there were 7 kids who were not white. A mix of Indian decent (2), (3) mixed race (both boys and one girl had black dads and white mums) and a girl and a boy (2) whose parents were both black British of Carribbean decent. As I grew up with a mix of different ethnicities I was colour blind and didn't differentiate between people with different skin colours. We all played together, there wasn't any segregation. If there was any segregation it was girls played together and boys played together- as they do at primary school age. Your comment is totally uninformed and I have just informed you that you're wrong!!!
Calm down Holden. Don't get racist just to own the racists now lmao
I am proud to be British and a veteran. Racism has never been part of my life. I've had close friends, colleagues and neighbours of different nationality, religion or colour. I know the UK has done wrongs and made mistakes in the past, but that doesn't change who I am and how I respect others.
You’ve grown up with 95% white mostly homogenous society stfu
Good man
@camrenwick: Thank for posting! It all starts with the individual. When doing wrong is the norm, as it has been in the US and in other places in the world, it is often difficult to see. Once one does see, doing right often takes more courage than the average person can summon up in the face of so much risk for so little personal gain. I wish that more people would accept the fact that we shape the world we live in by how we choose to treat others, instead of waiting on higher powers, society, protest movements, or enlightened leaders to save us from ourselves.
Jesus Christ you Brits are that dense that you don't realize you help started the Atlantic Slave Trade?
American CO: "Impose a colour ban!"
British Pub Landlord (Presumably Al Murray's Grandfather): *Uno reverse card*
I live in Preston and I am proud of my fellow Prestonians for not endorsing Jim crow laws. I have read about this account in the local paper and the bullet holes in the Halifax bank at bamber bridge.
Bamber Bridge is a 20 minute drive from my house.
Makes me Proud to be Lancastrian.
All are welcome in the United Kingdom.
Proud to be British.
This story made me proud
Me too cocker.
Nice
Not too many though. We can't allow ourselves to be demographic replaced. We went from being 99.9 English in 1950 to being only 70% English in 2020. That's a very worrying trend and it cannot continue. There is no England without English people.
Because there was no racism in India, Hong Kong or South Africa.
"For me, soldiers are all equal. Those black people wore your same uniform, fought on your side, and so you will be in the same jail." Erwin Rommel response to a request from white South African officers to be quartered separately from black enlisted men.
Some of these stories I know all too well. I'm African American. My Dad was a Sgt. Major, (one of the top ranks for enlisted troops) Quarter Masters. His unit was attached to Gen. Patton's 3rd Army during the "Battle of the Bulge", my Dad earned four (4) Bronze Stars, Purple Heart. One of my uncles served with my Dad, U.S. Army, another uncle served U.S. Navy at that time. Korean War, another uncle served 82nd Airborn, and another, (dads younger bro.) served U.S. Airforce. I'm a former active duty U.S. Marine, (Viet-Nam vet.) along with my other four brothers, U.S. Marines. We all work hard like a lot of Americans, to make this country of ours a more "perfect union", and we'd all be proud to serve again. We have all sorts of growing pains as a nation but you must remember, we're a young nation (247 years as a Republic) also remember we're a people government. So it's up to the good people in this country of ours to do the heavy lifting, NOT POLITICIANS. We are the most diversified country in the world. So thanks to all those who have taken time to read what this 76 yo. had to say.
Thanks for your story. What was your experience like during your service, and did the other veterans in your family ever share stories of negative experiences they had with stuff like racism? I would be very interested to hear about it all
Hi, I'm a former member of Her Majesty's Armed Services and a retired British Police Officer. Just in case no white guy has ever said it. Thank You all for your Service Brothers.
My regards.....
@@truthhurts9241 I appreciate you, thanks, Ed.
Adding this to my lesson plan for my 12th graders on Thursday. Thank you for adding information that is often overlooked.
That’s great! I’m so glad I could help you with this information. I don’t know what your lesson is on but it’s good to remember we in the UK had our own troubles with racism after the war due to an influx of commonwealth migrants we asked to come over to help rebuild the country. There was something called the ‘Bristol Bus boycott’ in the 1960’s which took inspiration from the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
And if it helps you in any way - I uploaded my script for this video if you wanted to use it to make your own PowerPoint etc:
thekavernacle.wordpress.com/2019/02/21/when-american-soldier-tried-to-bring-jim-crow-to-britain-during-world-war-ii/
The Kavernacle, I’m a World History teacher and we are on our WWII unit. I’m also doing cross curricular lessons focusing on black history month projects with the reading and writing teachers. My students are primarily African American boys with special needs. Their teachers in the past have sugar coated far to much and are finally being exposed to the truth. I appreciate the hard work you put into this ❤️
Ah that’s amazing ! I’m sure you are doing a great job with them - appreciate you using my work ! 😁
i wish that was done when i was in 12th grade!
J S1974 I gave up teaching my students from their text books after the first week of school. They don’t need the watered down whitewashed bullshit that rich men deem to be our history. My job is to prepare them for the real world and we know the truth isn’t so pretty. I always tell them that if they feel comfortable with our nations history, then I’m probably not teaching it right. My school is 85% male African American inner city students, they especially need to know.
I actually experienced this sort of thing in the early 1980,s. I joined other Brits working in a South African Steelworks during the apartheid period. We started cautiously with doorways. There were often two doors into the same space. One marked Europeans and the other None Europeans. Being British and so not European we always used the None European door. We were supposed to eat in segregated mess rooms. There were three - Whites, Indian and Coloured, then Black. We would open the white mess room door and pretend to vomit arguing that we cannot eat surrounded by such disgusting people and then go and sit with the Africans. They were much friendlier anyway. Black Africans were generally called ‘Boys’ so we took to calling ourselves ‘The Boys’ in order to spread confusion. Eventually the management gave up on us and we more or less mixed with whoever we wanted.
Whyd you go work in SA during that time!?
MrAllthatnmore Prime Minister Thatcher was not just closing down the coal pits, but also the Steelworks. This was a bad period many Brits. “Get on your bike and look for work “ was the government message and so I joined thousands of other unemployed people flooding the airports. My application to Australia was taking too long and so South Africa is was.
Me and the boys at 3 am ready to hunt some beans
Britain so European. "European" just means white.
....and kids, here’s another reason why Steve Rogers gave his shield to Sam Wilson.
My father fought in WWII and did not receive the GI bill. My brother fought in NAM and he had severe PTSD. Both men was black. Fought for a country that did not respect them. I had to register for selective service. No way was I going to fight over oil. Those men returned home second class citizens. That's America.
@jerrylumpy5141: Thank you for posting! Far too many of these stories bout anti-black racism have the all American feel good Hollywood ending. In most cases there was no justice and not even any admission of wrong doing or harm. Ordinary black people playing the hand dealt them from cradle to grave. The anti-reparations people and those who fling around epithets like "race card" and "culture of victimhood" don't like dealing with real history or with its consequences for real people. That doesn't suit the agenda of the zero sum game they are playing.
DEMOCRATS have never been Americans - - -
Robert Byrd, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died Monday at 92. While he was most famous as a master of the Senate’s obscure rules, Byrd wore many hats during his lifetime, including that of Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan. What are the job responsibilities of an Exalted Cyclops?
He presides over the Council of the Centaurs and writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant. In the Klan hierarchy, each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops. This member is typically elected by his fellow Klansmen and serves a one-year term. According to the original 1867 Prescript of the Ku Klux Klan, the Exalted Cyclops reports to a Grand Giant, or provincial leader; a Grand Dragon, or state director; and the Grand Wizard, or national chair. Below the Cyclops on the org chart were the Grand Magi, the Grand Monk, the Grand Exchequer, the Grand Turk, and, finally, the rank-and-file members known as Ghouls or Knights. (Many of these titles have changed over time, and most of the sub-Cyclops ranks have been eliminated.) The Exalted Cyclops’ responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs-that’s Klan-speak for a jury-to try and punish wayward Ghouls.
Robert Byrd, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died Monday at 92. While he was most famous as a master of the Senate’s obscure rules, Byrd wore many hats during his lifetime, including that of Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan. What are the job responsibilities of an Exalted Cyclops?
He presides over the Council of the Centaurs and writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant. In the Klan hierarchy, each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops. This member is typically elected by his fellow Klansmen and serves a one-year term. According to the original 1867 Prescript of the Ku Klux Klan, the Exalted Cyclops reports to a Grand Giant, or provincial leader; a Grand Dragon, or state director; and the Grand Wizard, or national chair. Below the Cyclops on the org chart were the Grand Magi, the Grand Monk, the Grand Exchequer, the Grand Turk, and, finally, the rank-and-file members known as Ghouls or Knights. (Many of these titles have changed over time, and most of the sub-Cyclops ranks have been eliminated.) The Exalted Cyclops’ responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs-that’s Klan-speak for a jury-to try and punish wayward Ghouls.
Despite the specific duties laid out in the Klan’s founding documents, there’s no way of knowing exactly what Byrd did as Exalted Cyclops. Klaverns have clashed with the central office throughout the Klan’s history, and there’s plenty of evidence that many chapters operated on a much less formal basis than the Prescript and subsequent manuals suggest. The meeting agenda for a typical Klavern in the 1940s, when Byrd was an Exalted Cyclops, would have included a discussion of black or Jewish outrages against native-born white Protestants. Democrat race hustlers Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton foment black victimhood. The party promotes racial identity politics because of the abject failure of its policies which continues to hurt black people and shows its continued contempt for blacks. Opposition to school choice keeps blacks in failing schools. Politically correct policing has left blacks as victims to violent crimes. In 2019, 9 unarmed blacks (the number is 19 for white people) were killed by police while more than 2,000 blacks were murdered by other blacks in 2018 and Democrats have had monopoly control of ALL the cities we hear and see about black plight: Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit...
Should talk about the similar issues we had with this in New Zealand. We even had a massive riot in Wellington called the battle of Manners st. While officially there were no casualties, there are Six US marines buried in Wellington cemetery who were killed on the same day
Americans points to Maori: we don't want them in this bar.
Everyone else, in the bar, in Manners Street, in NZ their native land: so you have chosen death.
The shootouts were between USA troops. The British locals in the pub and the British service people there were against the the American GI’s Trying to arrest their own black troops. They were welcomed all over the country, this was not an isolated incident of the public not accepting this behaviour of racism from the USA. U.K. history shows that the British never accepted slavery on U.K. Soil, and actively fought to abolish slavery around the world. History is history, one cannot change the past, good or bad, but the past needs to be remembered so that (hopefully) bad things do not get repeated. To do this people need to work on the ‘positives’ to be gained and the lessons learned. The people in Britain generally treat everyone with respect, it’s what that person does with that respect that defines whether it increases or falls, regardless of religion, race or colour.
US military command in UK (c.1943): Segregate now!
Some British pub: Say no more fam: *Black [allied] troops only*
The Brit's arent wrong
I have worked with the US services in the last twenty years , they still have the segregationist mindset , the Blacks and Whites hardly mix , when they go ashore in Plymouth they are separate , my contrast the Royal Navy all go out together.
I've known about jim crow in the us army since the early 1980s when I became interested in the civil rights movement and era while at secondary school so it's nothing new to me but its still upsetting to think this happened.
I'm from bamber bridge lived there for 24years, still live near by in Leyland. this is a famous legend here abouts, The pub The Hob inn is still a working pub. which iscwhere it all started. Us northerners will accept anybody race colour or creed. The landlords of the pubs in bamber bridge ( place of the riots) had signs saying black troops only!
For those of us who have never been there, If this was game of thrones, what house or cause would y'all support?
@@Elcherino123 obviously house stark
“Us northerners will accept anybody race colour or creed”
There are plenty of racist northerners. Voting Labour doesn’t mean you can’t be racist😂
Loved the vid mate, pretty shocking how fucked America were (obviously things are still bad but not AS bad) but I’m glad to see Britain didn’t discriminate against people fighting and dying for freedom
Yeah it is a feel good story for once! Which is rare for English history
@- is anyone? 🤷♂️
@peter totten Are you that naive?
@@PeterNgola I was like 14 so yeah probably was 😂
Yes still fighting for rights till this day, some say things havent changed in 50 years, some 150 years, some 400 years. Maybe we'll get it right sometime
Manners, good character and a love of music will win us over every time.
*Yeah, no.*
I am honored by my Irish, Scottish, and Irish-English ancestry. I'm also proud to identify as an African American man with Indigiounis Native American [Mayan/Hopi/Columbia] roots. That being said, in all of my travels across the globe, I have never experienced more racial 'hate' than when I served in the US Army, from other Americans while dwelling in the USA and as a soldier or a civilian. Yet, I never experienced more camaraderie than when I was an Active Duty soldier in the US Army.
I found that when soldiers are alone, away from their ethnic peers and popular propaganda they [soldiers] find in the adverse situations a 'commonality' that surpasses color, sex, hue, sexual persuasion, creed, political beliefs, and or religion.
We all bleed for the ideal of fellowship. Make no mistake, I am not a warmonger or a narcissist. I'm referring to the age-old belief, paraphrased of course, "He [they] who shed [his/her] blood with me, this day...is my brother (or sister)" [sic].
We live in extreme times. One person no matter how righteous or justified could potentially destroy a nation or race people or even the world with the flip of a switch. Yet, despite this we as human beings, have learned to incorporate our commonalities, instead of our differences. We have adopted our distinctness and embraced our uniqueness, for the betterment of all peoples, no matter how obscure.
For we are 'all' one race and even though we may not be related, we are still family.
Thank you for this video!
It genuinely makes me sad that even in modern day that the U.S still has race problems
What else can you expect from a country founded on slavery
@@fil_britbunnyboi872 there isn't a country on earth that hasn't had slavery the Brazilian Empire had it until the 1890s take your guilt tripping somewhere else.
There isn't any the Democrats and left wing America is doing their best to create one though. I've heard more people say white problems, white privilege, white people, than I've ever heard racial slurs and I've been all over.
@@fil_britbunnyboi872 Started by the British. The British were the source of slavery. Most large British cities bear the mark of slavery.
But how many countries legalized racism after emancipation, how many countries had laws discriminatory to former slaves and their descendants up to pst the middle of the 20th century, how many countries had racist and anti miscegenation laws that served as role models for the Nazis???
During the war, Britain relied on over seas soldiers ( from the Empire ) who fought and died for this nation. My great grand-dad with his proud Turban (Sikh ) died in Europe fighting the Nazis. The battle of Britain defeating the luftwaffe , we did not have pilots but many 'foreigners' came to our shores to fly our planes. I am an Indo-Brit born here. Nowadays hardly get any racism, if I did I would smash the bigot(s) , ain't taking that shit.
Yanks in liverpool in ww2 got terrored at footy by me great great grandad
Apparently the us soldiers wanted the Jim crow laws brought into Britain asking pub landlords not to let B
Sacks in the pub, the land lord responded with notices saying " Blacks only ,this caused tension amongst the white and blacks so there a battle i I think maybe this obviously in london or south but lancashire had helped the cotton workers in the southern states during the cotton famine during the American civil war maybe the black descendants remembered the aid they received lancashire cotton workers carried on the kindness. It might have been vice versa
fun fact: in ww1 the German army where so impressed by the hard fighting spirit of the "Harlem Hellfighters" they literally where the guys who called them THE HARLEM HELLFIGHTERS. THEN echoing what the VIet kong would later do they even tried to recruit them. "Why fight for a homeland that hates you?" was in the pamplets distrubited by the then Imperial (not nazi) German Army. Og and there are African Americans who escaped the US and nato completely and moved all the way to the soviet union. watched very interesting interview with some of their descendant on RU (which is of course just putin propaganda so you can ignore it). Fun fact that peple don;t want to hear the Russian Federation has a TON of ethnic gorups none of whom have to put up wth the kind of bullshit these poor bastards did. most cofnlcit in Russia has been of the poltical and idological variety not about race.
so the long story short: Racism EXISTS IN THE US always has. anybody who tried to fight against it was with rare exceptions like the Civil war when the enitre country split apart over the issue of slavery was beaten whipped tortured and often killed. this is one of the MANY reasons JFK was killed.
saoem thing with any number of outgroups. any time you get a wave of new imgrants in the US (frankly in most countreis this is somehwat true as well) you get a sudden upsurge in racism and hate crimes directed towards "those people".
Good piece..Army Vet, U.S.M.C hoorah ❤🖤💚👊🏿💪🏿💯
Stay frosty Marine. 1st Inf Big Red One Hoooah ✊🏾
This is well documented in two books; "Blood For Dignity" and "The Invisible Soldier" Both available on Amazon
In the timbers of the bank not “the woods” !! Come on get it right. The experience of US black troops in the UK meant that they were not going to accept things as they were when they were demobbed in the US! This helped spark up the civil rights movement in the US.
Great reporting ! I've lived in the United States all my life & have been fully-aware of this country's ugly past ... but I only had a limited knowledge of the history of Black soldiers in Britain & the particular insidious nature of American International Racism.
Thank you, Kavernacle !
No they tried let's get one thing right here we are British we don't need to do what America tells us
american exceptionalism cant cope with truth just cognitive dissonance all the way
Such as?
this video reminds me that in a stand for justice and equality you will always find allies and understanding of plights. great vid in support of a healthy cause.
Americans tried bringing it to the USSR in the 1930s, during work programs and got charged with "White Chauvinism," and rightly so.
Even when I visited New Orleans in the mid 2004 I was shocked how the Americans were so racisist !! And none had a passport just an idea about Britain & Europe ! 🇬🇧 I love Jamaica 🇯🇲 and the culture that came to Britain 🇬🇧 America have no idea the black GIs were shot at Shepton mallet prison in Somerset !! 🇬🇧
none of them had a passport(lol).
I wished I knew about this incident when I was in college! It would have been amazing to study more in-depth for my senior paper
Thank you for your service and to anyone who dare fight against he Nazi regime, speaking of which many of the RAF squadrons were made up of polish people and yet they too were also forgotten
Yep most Brits favored the repatriation of the Polish pilots that helped saved them... not the vast majority.. 45% strongly opposed that measure... but yes these incidents in the video are true and the British, Australian and NZ treated the US African-American soldiers better than the USA did... Truman said enough was enough and issued executive order 9981(in 1948)to desegregate the US military and in 1989 Colin Powell became the first African-American chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... The British also stood up to Nazi fascism well before us Americans did but many Americans snuck over to the Uk to fight... The Eagle Squadron
This happened in Australia during WW2 as well.
This is why Colin Kapernick kneels today.
he knelt because he's a bitch ass, washed up qb that needs attention to keep his career afloat.
@@pjtel9500Colin Kaepernick kneels because certain people want to continue to portray a romanticized image of United States history that isn't as kind or as noble as many of them would like to be reminded of.
@Héctor Santa Ana Hector it's very unfortunate that many people just won't recognize what is true. I'm glad that you have been able to learn what you have learned where you are. Not saying that America is ALL bad, but nobody and nothing is perfect. All of the things you mentioned actually happened, and people like Kaepernick are true American patriots because they remind us of that. Be well. 😊
Wow you have currently 0 dislikes on a video talking about race. amazin
See this is the kind of stuff that white America does not want the rest of Americans to know about. The history is deep wide and hard and I feel we all should know the facts as to some of the reasons blacks have always had to fight for what we have gotten
Subscribed! Love this video bro.
RoZi2089 thanks a lot Rozi!!
During the second world war there were also several occasions of this in Australia.
Reminded of when my father in the army. Now he did say some racist things but was sickened by how he saw how some of them treated even to the point when barracks were shared on bases between US and UK, messes were made available to black US troops. This is back in the 1950's before I was born
It makes me heart-sick now when I see racism now when it's based on the US model. Usually based on the rhetoric of the long past of how blacks are lazy and all the other rubbish. In one of my Jobs as a baker I met 2 BNP members who mostly kept their ideas to themselves but of course sometimes it would come out and it was all stuff that you can read now on extreme right wing US sites plus their own twist on pakistani's being sent back ( had to point out to them that Sikh's were not pakistani)
Strange thing was, they did like two-tone and reggae... the mind boggles, they said they can bring their music but not themselves
Racial purity is a curiosity when being anglo-saxon or my case anglo-irish denotes a mixed race to begin with
Ah that’s really awful. And yeah BNP aren’t around anymore really but in reality it’s just been replaced by UKIP
I think some people can differentiate different culture they like from their racist beliefs which is weird but seems to happen often. Trump loves Mike Tyson.
racism in america will never end i think blacks should move away from all of it and let the racist have their utopia they will see how much the government doesn't care for them either 🤦🏻♂
Yeah my grandfather said they rode on the same buses and trains overseas but when they got back in the south they separated everyone by race. Also he said the new york and Chicago blacks had great fun beating the hell out of white soldiers that called them the Nword to their face overseas. They stating we arent at home now you wont get away with that shit.
@@dannybrooks1847 Black Americans are still more successful, by a huge margin, than any other black people in the world. Last time I check, Americans voted a black president overwhelmingly, two times. So what do you mean "racism in america will never end".
@@pjtel9500 after what's been happening all over the news recently and you have a nerve to say something as dumb as that? I'm not even going to glorify your responses since you must be living under a rock.
RIP William Crossland
Thank you for this great video 👍👍❤️❤️
dosent matter who or what they are when your getting shot at if he is on your side then it dosent matter
Racial segregation was practiced with the greatest rigour in South Africa, where, under the apartheid system, it was an official government policy from 1950 until the early 1990s. Racial segregation in the USA was officially illegal after 1862, but using loopholes in that ruling in the 1920s, however there were "still" so many loopholes allowing segregation in schools, jobs, housing, sitting next to whites, especially, but not only, in particular States usually in the South and "Trumpland". There are racial people everywhere, but I've been to the States often (I'm white), and many racists there always expected me to have the same opinion. I'll never forget when I went to the Mardi Gras in New Orleans how 2 pretty girls came up to my friend and I and 5 minutes later one said quite blatantly the festival would be great if it wasn't for those "niggas".
2020 and still ain't nothing change.
You wouldn’t have been able to survive in the 40’s if you think it was bad in 2020.
Watching February 17 2021
Still no change
Racism still prevalent today in 2021
@Blaze Temp yeah KKK is still burning crosses killing black people cops are still harassing black soldiers both Republicans and Democrats are corrupt ya'll should just get a third party at this point
You're right, we still don't have segregation in Britain, I don't live in America so I can't comment!
Valuable historical lessons about British values and the unimportance of the colour of people’s skin completely lost on the bloke narrating as he swerves off course and straight into something, something, Donald Trump is a baddie…. Honestly Mate?
The British are also insanely racist like Trump - look at my pinned comment. And yes Trump always dog whistled to far right militias. If you can’t see Trump is a racist there is no hope for you
@@TheKavernacle how are we insanely racist stop spouting nonsense
I thought that this was an informative, fair and well researched video for the most part and I applaud Kavernacle for his work here. However, the Trump reference was baseless and unnecessary, given the context of the subject matter and actual bigotry. A bit of a slap in the face to half of the American public.
That was interesting as fuck
Irony is the fact that the British treated the troops of their colonies worse while treating the black soldiers of the American Army with respect
And also the irony is that American,who treated their black soldiers in a bad manner,used to behave respectfully with the locals of the British colonies,when they were stationed there.
Britain learned; Americans, as usual, learn nothing.
@@knightofkorbin888British people are still very racist
😂😂😂@@knightofkorbin888
@@knightofkorbin888Britain learned to be weak. Britain learned to kneel
Racism and discrimination is just an absolute joke. We are all flesh and bone. Being a veteran I did and would be happy to fight alongside anyone willing to fight beside me.
Grandad was a kid in ww2 in liverpool d blitz he made friends wid loads of yanks and loads of black yanks
That’s cool! Shame Liverpool (and England) treated Caribbean immigrants like shit in the decades that followed
@@TheKavernacle if its before 2000 every country was racist
sonny d yeah but does not excuse how British people treated black immigrants coming over because the British government asked them to to rebuild the country...
@@TheKavernacle every country was racist back den it wasent just the uk and it was before the civil rights
@@TheKavernacle every country would act negatively to large immigration from people of a different skin colour, Asians, Africans too. It's just human nature.
Black US Air Force pilot Fred V Cherry was a POW in Vietnam and his white bunk mate Porter Halyburton(from the South) became the best of friends and the NVA and VC propaganda did not break them.... they went around the USA after the war to tell their story...
There were plenty African American combat units during the war 92nd Infantry Division "Buffalo Soldiers" fought in Europe, 93rd Infantry Division fought in the Pacific, 761st Tank Battalion "Black Panthers" fought in Europe and the 762nd Tank Battalion which fought in Europe this isn't counting the countless support Troops that were made up of black American soldiers.
That's why Mohammed Ali was one of my heroes.
I agree with most of this video thanks!
Bamber Bridge is a satellite town of Preston and not in Preston - that footage at the start was terrifyingly old and featured the three towers that were demolished a long time ago. They were known as 'Crack Towers'. Ironically because a (possibly Jamaican) drug gang had taken over the top few floors of at least one of them. It was a bit like the Dredd film thinking about it!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!
The no Irish on pubs isnt rascist we just dont want ya starting fights jk jk 😂
They proved themselves harder than anyone.
Loved the video...Thanks for sharing it .
Why were white American soldiers so worried about black American soldiers integrating with BRITISH women?
They care about the ‘Anglo-Saxon’ race I would imagine
The US President had to call UK leadership…. All the way up to Churchhill …. Asking for segregated hours for non-foundationalBlackAmerican soldiers.
The US South had many more dealing with Africanized DNA than England did but recently it is starting to catch up. Enoch Powell warned about it too. Even Albert Schweitzer said racial equality was impossible--and modern South Africa is proof of that. The European soldier of 1945 had no idea they were fighting and dying to bring rape epidemics and muslim invaders, but some did--Charles Lindbergh, Ezra Pound, George Orwell--they could read the signs.
Up the North😁🏴💪🏻🐎🥊🍻👑
love how you included clips from Mafia 3. Despite its flaws, I love that game.
Whaaaat?!! I’m from Preston and I NEVER knew this
I love the US but I hope the US will fix its racial problems
1:12 white AMERICAN military police
This was an amazing video.
Good video bro
Thanks man!
Insane ! Eye opener though
Awesome job! Thanks for sharing.
Still didn't want the British civilians interacting too much with the Americans.
Nah son, say what you mean, Black men and white women. No need to speak in code.
More propaganda, pure and simple. Though some were treated as second class citizens my people were massacred by the millions. But polish people are white, so white privilege and stuff. Never mind that there are exceptions to the rule of the race hustler.
Not to mention the lack of men in Europe as so many died. Foriegn soldiers really had their way, this isn't even hyperbolic. I'd also like to remind people that this was the greatest reward for fighting, the comfort of a female. .Because if tomorrow you die, you have at least past on your Genetics and hopefully stayed to support them. Hard to do unfortunately, we're not conditioned for such a lifestyle.
I loved your video.
FBA 🇺🇸-- very true.
Ive watched Trump for the last 5 years . Tell me what's racist what he has done. Ive not seen any.
Like I said. I've been following America's situation over the past five years. I've no idea where you get that bs from.
@AngloGirl85UK What ?. The Bs was for someone saying that he was racist and i am saying he is not. For the exact same reasons you just said. Should see who i was replying to 1st.
@@seeker1432 Love trump and I'm a Brit maga.🇺🇸🇬🇧
@@tonylake9602 So am i
I've read on his history he's probably one of the most racist presidents we've had in 50 years most of his life he's been racist that not even 4 years of presidency will ever make up for it
Great video!
all the war babies, including phil lynott, that had black GI dads :)
That “No Blacks, no dogs, no Irish” is a gross exaggeration.
During the war especially, there was a housing shortage, plus poverty among just about everybody, house owners were poor as well.
Practically every house owner took in lodgers to help with money.
The trouble is, a lodger lives in your house, uses your kitchen and of course, your lavatory. Many black and Irish people were less interested in personal hygiene, many had never used a flush toilet.
That’s why the signs existed. And it’s obvious why a home owner would likely not want a dog in their home. They were not comparing people with dogs.
I lived in those days. Everyone had lodgers.
C'mon man is the father smoking? Smh
Really enjoyed this video.
And FIFA will play the next World Cup in an open racist country
Turn around Buffalo soldier, your enemy is behind you.
Thanks for sharing this piece of history
I'm proud to be from North west England (Area around Bamber Bridge)
thanks for uploading this
We didn’t fight the civil war for nothing
The Yanks tried the same crap in Australia - didn't fly there either.
Good video and content.
Couldn’t wait to get those snow bunnies overseas 👍🏿
James McGrory bellend
Weird comment!
Disgusting.
@@pjtel9500 it’s amazing
That fetish shit is gross and those snow bunnies who are into it see you as nothing more but a penis they are racist too.