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I love the Marvel series yall did a while back!! I'd personally love it if yall circled back there and covered characters more in depth like Bucky Barnes's walk with his past or Rhodey, or Yelana!! Love watching yall, btw. Keep it up!
It's slightly irresponsible to psychologically review a movie about violence overcoming violence given the geopolitical reality in the Middle East and not addressing the effects of the cycle of violence in the real world.
26:00 "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having" is actually a quote from known anarchist and feminist Emma Goldman (1869-1940). She said that in response to some young activist man who was telling her that dancing wasn't fit for a revolutionnary. She answered that a revolution that doesn't celebrate the joys of life is not a revolution worth having.
True, there have been so many revolutions where the revolutionaries turned out to be so much worse than their original oppressors when they overthrew them. You've got to be able to love and have respect for life if you ever hope to make a positive change.
@@meh2510 That’s the strange paradox of revolutions. Because those with the ambition for powers for themselves have more drive to complete the revolution than those that’s simply want a better system. Hello Future Me’s video on revolutions really highlights how complicated revolutions truly are.
As a story that gets frighteningly more relevant as time goes on, I really appreciate this movie. It's not just a blatant sociopolitical message, it's not just gratuitous violence against the government, and it's not even about V. As she says at the end, he's all of us. It's about an idea that people should be free, to do good or bad, to make mistakes, to choose for themselves. That, I think, is one of the most basic concepts humanity can ever rally behind.
It's an idea not just for the middle class "nice" people who are oppressed. Two Central American countries have rounded up thousands of people, without trial, saying they're gang members, and they're being placed in grim prisons. Yes, life is better for those left untouched, presumably innocent, but friends and families can get no information about the people imprisoned. And, without doubt, some are innocent.
@@veramae4098 yo vivo en un país dominado por el narcotráfico y las pandillas que lo controlan. Todos los días muere gente inocente en medio de las luchas entre pandillas. Todos los días, niños pierden sus vidas porque son prácticamente secuestrados y lavados de mente por estas pandillas para que les sirvan como mulas. En mi país necesitamos un Bukele. Así que no defiendas a esas ratas que tantas vidas se cargaron, o terminas siendo cómplice. Decidieron cagarse en las vidas de miles de personas, se enriquecieron a costa de la miseria de la gente, no se lo pensaron dos veces en jalar gatillos. Y sobre los pocos inocentes encerrados? Se están realizando investigaciones y ya han sido liberados más de 6.000 y el número avanza.
@@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs Probably because Facism is rising in the West. There are far-right governments and parties gaining popularity in Europe and around the world that are pretty anti-freedom and free speech, even though that's what they pretend to stand for.
featuring this timeless, important masterpiece? with the actual director? i cant believe this. you really outdid yourselfes! bravo! you give this movie the recognition it deserves!
To take a phenomenal actor like Hugo Weaving, and hide his face behind an emotionless mask is such a risk, but for him to still be able to deliver such a powerful emotional performance really is a credit to his skill. So many great actors would be totally powerless behind a mask like that. Hugo Weaving pulls it off so well.
@@AFLoneWolf Right. I have heard some actors have it in their contracts that their face must be shown for X amount of time. That's why they Have the shots of RDJ from inside the iron man helmet, and why none of MCU heroes wear their masks and helmets very long.
Karl Urban in Dredd does it equally well, and I‘d say this although his mouth and chin are visible, there is very little if anything by way of emotion shown. It is almost a part of the mask
Not to mention the fact, whereas most other actors often covered completely in make-up or a mask are able to act with their eyes, Hugo isn't even afforded *that.* His performance is entirely conveyed through voice and body language, and the best part is, he makes it come off so natural you almost don't even *notice* that his eyes are hidden away as well until you really start picking apart the performance (or rather, that's been my experience, at least). 🌹
The fact the panic attack scene was the first scene Hugo and Natalie filmed together is insane! Literally so freaking well done to the both of them honestly!
My favourite scene from this movie is the Evey is reborn scene. It shows the parallels between both Evey and V, who were both technically created by the same method, but were reborn differently. V was reborn in fire and became full of rage and wanted revenge and vengeance, but Evey was reborn in water, discovered that god was in the rain, found inner peace with her past. Shows that someone may go through same traumatic experiences, but everyone will come out the other side differently. Also another favourite line is when one of the doctors that V kills asked V “Is it meaningless to apologise?” And V responds “Never.” I love this movie! It always gives me goosebumps! ❤
@katemiller4084 are you in my head? That was my take, too. The letter she reads as she's being tortured, the way the author of the letter, and V, were tortured, is absolutely heartbreaking even as it reveals the core strengths in each of them. After all, who are we when our name, family, work, home, apparel and appearance, our rights, our choices, and even our own voice, are stripped from us?
Even their names are in correlation. The number 5 is big theme throughout the film. Evie's name is broken down into two letter sounds, E which is the 5th letter of the alphabet and V, which is the 5th from last letter of the alphabet. V is also the roman numeral for 5.
Its totally in character for V to have a theatrical alliterative monologue. I don't know if it was Hugo's performance, the crew's genius, or a combination of both, but V has a much more somber and genuine tone for one line in it "the only verdict, is vengeance". That vengeance, for better or worse, ultimately does define him as much as his personality does.
It should be noted that it also represents their gender and what that represents. Female energy is often depicted with water and life giving imagery, forgiveness and nurturing. Male energy is often associated with fire, rage, vengeance, and justice.
Never shows his face and yet you can understand who V is just by his voice/tone and mannerisms and then be able to empathise with him. Voiceover work is highly underrated.
Hugo Weaving’s performance in this movie blows me away. With nothing but his voice (which is admittedly amazing) and his pure physicality, he’s nothing short of absolutely mesmerizing.
That sentiment is why we are where we are. No one wants to be the person to make a better world. They all think they deserve to live there. None of them do. But you can't convince them and you are never going to get them to think of anyone more than themselves. Most certainly not the potential people of some future generation. That, to me, is the heart wrenching part. The fact that it's the docile cogs who get to enjoy a world they never bothered to create.
@@Ahzpayne ...I feel you get that kind of backwards; "docile cogs" aren't necessarily enjoying themselves, they just think that they don't have the power to change it. They/we've been beat down into "that's just the way it is".
No freaking way!!!! I dresses up as V for Halloween and just rewatched! LETS DO THIS Ok, 5 mins into it and I dropped a like during the SurfShark ad because of Alan.
For real, I haven't even thought about this movie for years and for some reason I started talking about it someone just yesterday, then suddenly this appeared on my recommeded! I had to watch it immediately.
@@ryanthompson2462 Similar here. I knew about that movie for years but didn't know what it was about. Just a few days ago I watched a video about how to write a revolution that showed scenes of "V like Vendetta" and I thought that movie seems interesting and now Cinema Therapy did a video about it.
Any time CT gets principle filmmakers on their videos (directors, writers, actors, etc) always makes that episode extra special. And you got James McTeigue for V for Vendetta??? We couldn't have asked for a better guest!
28:07 in the original graphic novel, they never revealed V's face either. There was a scene pondering the face beneath the mask, wondering if it was one of the other characters seen in the story or some mundane reveal. The lesson was that it doesn't matter who is behind the mask, only what the mask stands for.
@@kendelia9609 Yes! Not taking away from brilliant hosts and the director and screenwriters, but when talking about plot details being "early on in the script" and ZERO mentions of "yeah, we took this directly from the original material" - made me cringe...
For me, it was a simpler lesson. We are not our faces. Our face, our skin, our bones, nothing physical about us has to necessarily define us. But also, nothing physical of someone has has to define them. Not height, not weight, not color, not beauty, not deformity. Not the clothes they wear, the cars they drive, the jobs they have. What defines someone are their ideas AND their actions.
Back in high school there are so many students in my drama class, who tried to do V's opening monologue to Evie, and his broadcast speech, and it just can't be pulled off by someone who isn't classically trained. Hugo Weaving is an actor who is cut from a rare cloth.
Hugo Weaving should've gotten MUCH more praise for his performance. He pulls off a brilliantly compelling performance without EVER showing his face (a primary part of communication), relying solely on his voice and body language to flesh out these scene. I've always seen this as a modern interpretation of George Orwelle's '1984', even if that was entirely an accident.
Oh absolutely! His performance is entirely conveyed through voice and body language, and the best part is, he makes it come off so natural you almost don't even notice that his eyes (which actors covered in make-up or masks will often resort to, see most Beauty & the Beast adaptations) are hidden away as well, not until you really start picking apart the performance (or rather, that's been my experience, at least). 🌹
F*ck man. Hugo Weaving deserves all the praise for any of his performances. Like, being able to do a cold character like Agent Smith or a power hungry and narcissistic theatrical villain like the Red Skull? Like, at first, you'd be like "How do you act with a mask on the entire time?" And then you look at Hugo Weaving's skills and you go "Oh, with Hugo Weaving, that's how."
I remember with the "V" dialog opening why Hugo Weaving is the only person who could have played him. And I had only known him as Elrond at this point.
@@Justanotherconsumer It's so interesting to me that Hugo went from playing the enforcer of a brain-washing institution, to playing the part of someone trying to tear one down. It's such a fun inversion and really shows his versatility as an actor. He was great as Elrond too.
That scene where Evi wanted to take off the mask got me thinking about Phantom of the Opera- both had disfigured faces but Erik (Phantom) was desperate for love and approval for what was underneath, whereas V wanted to protect Evi from what was underneath. I don’t think V is ‘bad’ even though he’s done bad things.
I was thinking the same thing. I thought I was the only one who was reminded of Erik when Evi was about to take the mask off. Regardless of their differences both characters are amazing.
This movie was SO formative for me growing up. This has really helped shape how I feel about our society. This is on par with Orwell on how impactful it is and how well it articulates how easy it is for society to slip into a dark place. I have the DVD, one of the few I still own in the digital age. And its for all the special features. Because those are just as amazing as the movie itself.
I have the same feelings. I grew up in homophobic and racist country. But this movie changed my perspective. I watched it every year since I was 8. Every year I understood much more. This movie changed my mind
A fun thing to keep in mind is that, ultimately, V is a horrible person. But the point of the story is that V is not even a person "per se". He's a symbol. And thus, by the end of the movie, he dies. And he's not remembered fondly as a person because he never was one. He's remembered fondly as a symbol because he always was. A symbol of democracy. A symbol of rising up against tyranny. V for Vendetta, to me, tells us that the heroes that rise up against injustice don't always have to be flawless individuals. They don't even have to be decent human beings. All they have to be is a symbol that empowers others to rise up.
Well, he was a person once, before they imprisoned, tortured, and experimented on, him. I was took it that he believed that person was so changed by what they did that he wasn't really there anymore, which is why he as a part of their awful work had to die with it. I think there's some interesting parallels one could make to the number of soldiers who come home from war with PTSD and find they have to go back, or kill/harm themselves or others, because they can't fit back in to 'normal'/civilian life. He channelled all of his (entirely justified) rage, pain and trauma into taking then down with him, so they couldn't continue do the same to anyone else. But like he taught Evey (sp?), some times there's worse things than dying for what you believe in
Because no one person is entirely good. Just as no one person is entirely evil. V had a point with Evey in his lesson to her. He knew there would be the high chance a new danger shows up, and it would be Evey's task to deal with that.@@dawsondebell1603
@@dawsondebell1603 Most actual heroes are terrible people. That's why they can go as far as they do. They are not good people, they are just people who are willing to do what is necessary. That's also what makes them so strong as characters.
As someone living un UK that yearly celebrates bonfire night (guy fawkes day) , I really love that this was posted as close as you could for the 5th of November. People yearly protest in London on the 5th about a variety of causes and fireworks get shot off generally the whole week between halloween and bonfire night across the country.
I always watch this with my family around Bonfire Night because of how relatable and applicable to nowadays despite it being based on an important piece of British history.
V not only saw his actions as a 'necessary evil', but also understood that 'necessary' doesn't negate that they ARE evil. So many people (in real life and in media) throw the phrase of 'necessary evil' around and act as though that absolves them of the ramifications that come with what they've done. As you've said, the way he hangs his head and slumps his shoulders humanizes him because we know, based on them, that he feels ashamed of his necessary evils. But he still does them because they are necessary. I wish I'd watched this movie in its entirety when I was growing up--I watched it much later and it didn't really hit me as hard as it would now in recent years. When I was younger, I didn't understand the torture segment nor the conversation afterwards. Strange, now, how much I understand as an adult. This vid was so cool, it's amazing that you got the director to join in! Thank you and your crew as always, I enjoyed it very much.
I cannot, CANNOT believe this is for free on the internet, V for Vendetta has always been a formidable movie for me and to see and hear from the director?? I cannot believe it, so proud of you guys and so happy to be here watching this
When she starts having a panic attack, I love the subtle moment where he offers his support and waits for her to give him her hand, just a great subtle way to show that he still respects her freedom and choices, even if he kept her captive to set her free.
V for vendetta has such a weird and special meaning to me. Me and my best friend have watched it on 5th of november for four years now, and the first time i watched it was just hours before my whole world basically collapsed. I feel like watching v for vendetta kickstarted a journey of self-discovery and every year as i watch it i am reminded of how far i've come from where i was. It is truly a masterpiece that i hope i will be watching for the years to come.
I had a similar experience with this movie. I was going through religious deconstruction at the time, and had been suffering from some serious trauma. One November 5th, it happened to storm, and I ended up pausing the movie during her moment in the rain, and ran out and laid down and sobbed for 10 minutes in the rain and thunder. I didn't know then what I believed, but I knew I was no longer Catholic. I have since deconstructed from religion, and am at peace. I have also managed to move on from my trauma for the most part as well. I am no longer having panic attacks like I used to.
Yeah, I remember this movie when I was in my early teens, and now I'm in my 20s. And I realized a lot of it has inspired a lot of my general interest in activism to this day, though activism is a lot more mainstream here in the early 2020s than around the early 2010s, yet at the same time, there's a bigger backlash to that because the movement has gotten stronger. I tried to research every single social issue I could find, followed multiple content makers in blogs/videos/forums/social media online who knew about the issue, heard from real life stories around the issue, read as many books as possible on different social issue, or even volunteered the way I can (through my own nerdy scientific/tech background), and I say a lot of that has came from movies like V for Vendetta. I mean it wasn't the only one, but it was one of the major inspirations for all of that now that I think about it. Cinema Therapy mentioning all this brings back all types of memories, though I guess the change is that there's less of the edgy "I f///ing hate people who make society worse," to more of the, "I don't care 99% of the time people say something mean on the news or the internet because I'm so used to it though I find ways to help in my free time from to time" but still overall, my goals haven't changed that much. So I guess the way I look at this movie is different from when I was slightly younger than now, it seems. I know doing all that sounds complicated, but if people want a mini exposure to all these deeper topics, I suggest just looking up related quotes to activism. Pick what you like, as my suggestion. Quotes about racism, quotes about feminism, quotes about the environment, quotes about poverty, quotes about mental illness, quotes about disability, quotes about trauma, quotes about LGBTQIA+ rights, quotes about immigrants, quotes about war, quotes about refugees, quotes about hunger, quotes about physical illness/chronic illness/terminal illness, or whatever comes to mind for many of you. Then pause at a quote that makes you have a bigger emotional reaction, and take time to think it over and reflect over it. I'm a quote collector as a hobby, and I recommend it if anyone would like it.
"I can't feel anything anymore!" I've been there. Once you've lost what you're afraid of losing, once you've survived your greatest fear, and overcome it... Nothing is scary anymore. There is peace. Yes, sometimes there's a temporary wave of regret or sense of loss, but the fear is gone. You realize you can handle anything. You're going to be ok. You're safe now, no matter what happens.
Personally I don't think being beaten down to the point of emotional exhaustion should be lauded. That's a bad thing, dude, and yes people can survive a lot but they shouldn't *have* to!
I felt this way after my mother died. Yes you become very strong, and you lose fear of a lot of things. But you also are robbed of things too. It gets harder to feel happiness. You lose your innocence and trust. Ultimately it can become a positive thing, but it's so painful.
While not as subtle as the source material, it was great to see V's face obscured as it demonstrates the idea he represents is more important than the man under that mask.
I feel like they missed a trick not posting this on the 5th but so much fun I love this movie! Thank you for doing it. When I was younger I put on captions and looked up every word of the “V” speech so I knew exactly what he was saying. Amazing writing.
I feel like this movie should be screened, non-stop, every platform, every channel, every streaming service for 24 hours. Imagine the impact if everyone saw it. Tis one always moved me. I found the graffic novel years ago and it was just as moving.
i feel like if they did that here in the US there would be another civil war within weeks. something we very much need at this point. however, i also feel that those of us fighting for our rights and equality would be overwhelmed and lose
To be honest I dont think it would make the impact you think it would. A huge majority of people view movies and media as purely entertainment and fiction, so they dont really take much away from it or think about it outside of the time they spend watching it. I am fortunately not one of those people who just mindlessly consume and expel medias that I watch or read from my brain once they're over, but there is an ever present and constant fight between people like us, and those who say "it's only a movie" or "it's just a story" online. At the most this movie would inspire those who already agree with it's message, or those like you or myself who actually take messages and lessons away from the things we watch or read. But people who never thought about it before, or dont view media the same way we do, would probably just see it as a fun bit of fiction that they will later forget about. Maybe this is a bit overly cynical, but this is just what i've seen and experienced back when I also thought that "if only everyone could see this one piece of media that has moved and fundamentally changed me, it would make such an impact on the world." And then was disappointed to see online that not everyone had the same experience or view of the piece of media that I did. And if I tried to express my own view or feelings on it, they were either rejected or ignored. V for Vendetta was one of those experiences for me.
The irony of wanting to essentially force the masses to watch V for Vendetta in the hopes of shaping society with repeated messaging is lowkey hilarious.
The acting in this movie is the next best thing to perfect. That moment when Evie says they created a monster, despite the mask you can see the pain, the acceptance, and the ambivalence on his face.
The fact that this masterpiece just as relevant now, if not more so, as it was then is... Sad. And horrifying. This movie should be required viewing for everyone. Could you imagine how people might react to the state of things if everyone had learned the lessons it was trying to teach?
Based on the usual voting patterns, I suspect that maybe 50% of American citizens would take nothing from this movie because they are so programmed otherwise that they would incapable of recognizing its message for what it is.
“Remember remember the 5th of November, the gun powered treason and plot. For I know of no reason why the gun powdered treason, should ever be forgot.”
I hate to be this person, but it's "gunpowder," referring to Guy Fawkes' Gunpowder Treason of 1605. I can understand how you could mishear it as "gun powered," though. The nursery rhyme in full below: Remember, remember, the 5th of November, The gunpowder, treason and plot. I see no reason Why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, 'twas his intent To blow up the King and the Parliament Three score barrels of powder below Poor old England to overthrow By God's providence he was catch'd With a dark lantern and burning match Holler boys, holler boys, let the bells ring Holler boys, holler boys God save the King!
It’s funny - this is basically a tradition against Catholics, but I was brought up to love this tradition, and my (Catholic) school and church held an annual fireworks and bonfire (without guy Fawkes atop), which we all went to. It is a great time.
@@lizcarter4521the persecution of Catholics in England is something we… seem to have chosen to forget. A lot of the Christian-on-Christian violence seems to be conveniently forgotten.
@@kyothinks It’s all good 👍 I was trying to quote Evey’s narration in the beginning of the movie by memory, and I wondered if I got it down right 😅 lol
this is one of my all time favorite movies, just below lord of the rings. it's a lesson in freedom but it's also a lesson in oppressive states. Hugo's acting thru just his body and voice are masterful
I cannot begin to say how much this movie means to me! I have watched it at different times in my life and each time I reflect on what my life was like, who I understood myself to be. The beautiful portrayal of a lesbian love story and how central it was to everything, really helped me to see such a relationship in a positive light. I think in many ways representation like this is ultimately what helped me on the road to realizing I am a lesbian.
*So so grateful to everyone who worked to make this movie* ❤ I watched it when I was fairly young with my parents and I memorized his presentation from day one... the message means so much to me as I work with people in prison. Thank you!
The discussion of consent made me think of Samaritan law in life-saving. When you're saving someone's life, you actually need to make sure it's okay with them before you touch them or do anything. Unless they fall unconscious, then there's actually a rule about implied consent, and you can go ahead and try and save their life. It's interesting how closely it ties to this
Every single character in this movie is so well characterized that you could probably make multiple hours of cinema therapy just talking about them all: How they reacted to pressure, how they relieve it, their coping mechanisms, how they justify things to themselves. Every character is just balancing on a knife edge in a storm of tension, waiting to fall... Like dominoes.
This movie has been my absolute favorite non-animated film ever since it came out, I saw it three times in theaters before they changed it out. It is also one of the 5 movies that can bring me to tears. Also the mask, it never changes its expression but the actor is so talented with body language and voice inflection that you would swear that it does.
I absolutely love this film. The relationship between V and Evy is all about transformation to me. His transformation at the beginning of his journey in the film, his transforming her and deprogramming her, her connecting with him during the last part of the film. That scene with her in the rain harkening back to him escaping the facility pure gold.
"V" is among the very few films I feel improves upon the source material, even if only a little. The action is action, sure, but the rest, the terror and heartbreak, the passion and sorrow, and capped at the end with the Vindication and memory of all those who were lost and who suffered... hoo boy. I cry my eyes out at the end of this film.
A shame you guys didn't talk about the scene with Evey stepping out in the rain after being released from 'prison'. While most of it is pretty obvious (the cut between her laughing in the rain and him roaring in flames is pretty clear symbolism), I would've loved to hear from the director about that scene and how deep it actually went. Episodes like this are fantastic for film nerds, and I hope y'all get to cover more movies with help from the crew behind them! :)
I saw v for vendetta when i was 12 in an imax theater with my mom, dad, sister, and grandma. Dad always laughed when he talked about walking out of the movie, because his mom HATED it, and I loved it so much I was practically bouncing off walls. Completely opposite sides of the spectrum.
I must confess, and it’s not just with you guys, when any TH-camr does a sponsorship, I usually just kind of tune out. But this one was absolutely brilliant, I loved it!
This is one of the few movies I have vivid memory of seeing with my grandfather. It was an eye opening view on society. I’ll never forget the moment we realize in real time with her that the prison was all “fake”. That shock me to the core the first time I watched it. I’m gonna have to look at the patreon and watch the directors cut on this. Thank you for featuring it.
This episode is pretty good timing for me and the fellow Brits in the audience considering it's bonfire night on Sunday (I mean that's probably why it was released today but it's still nice)
I've loved this since I read Alan Moore's graphic novel and I was so happy that when I watch it's movie adaptation, it was just as good. This movie is still so relavant and the acting/direction was so good. I still watch it every year on the 5th.
I remember watching this for the first time around the time Covid was underway and the 2020 US Election was in full swing. With that frame of time when I was viewing this movie, it hit hauntingly close to home. And honestly, it made me more active and vocal in my politics for obvious reasons; so in that aspect, this movie's story and message are highly effective.
V for Vendetta has to be the most accurate comic book to movie adaptation ever, it’s utterly brilliant! I can’t believe you got the director to join you on my favourite movie!
I haven't ever seen V, but this 3:12 whole speech ending in her asking "are you like a crazy person?" just had me instantly quip back "no, he's a theater kid...but close enough" Honestly this is me when talking about theater or theater tech stuff cause I get so excited at how it works.
What I love about the “under the bed hiding” scenes is that young Evie covers her teddy bear’s eyes with a hand and then older Evie covers her mouth with her hand. Idk if it just happened organically but I love the details 🎉
I am so happy that you are covering this movie. I would have never expected you guys to ever cover this movie at all. It's got a special place in my heart and is honestly one of the coolest movies ever. And it's one of the best adaptations of a comic book to movie in my personal opinion. Hell, I would say V for vendetta is definitely one of the most unique and most captivating Indie comic book graphic novels, along with Alan Moore's other work in watchmen, James O' Barr's The Crow, and the Og Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics from Mirage by Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman.
This is one of the most influential films I have ever seen. Rewatching this movie during the 2020 election/ covid era really gave me the hope I needed to keep moving forward. Thank you for covering this. You guys keep doing the great work you do. I know your work has helped me.
Well you can color me surprised, I didn’t think you guys would ever do this movie. Now you just need to take a look at the RDJ Sherlock Holmes and Cast Away, and that’s my wish list about finished.
Hugo Weaving's acting in this movie is nothing short of phenomenal. The way he conveys emotion in such subtle, but obvious ways with his face covered is simply amazing. To me, this is one of his best, if not his very best, work. I love this movie so much.
Oh that is SO cool that you got James on! V and Evie's relationship is both fascinating and terrifying. Do I know why V does what he does to her, yes - but you'd think someone who's suffered as he has would NEVER wish that on anyone else. I think the only way the mask coming off could work was if his back was turned away from Evie so that she could maybe see the scars from his burns, but nothing else.
OMG I am so excited to see this movie discussed. It is one of my all time favorites! My papa introduced it to me when I was a child and now I can practically quote the whole thing. As always I love what Cinema Therapy does and what it has to say about the characters we idolize and reference.
I love the casting of John Hurt made me laugh when I first saw it in the theater. Winston Smith has become Big Brother. It was perfect to me. Also, I'd been a huge fan of Sinead Cusack for two decades, so seeing her as the doctor was brilliant.
I have CPTSD and just been retraumatized this past month. 35 years old and it's hell. Especially if what caused it is still happening and you've been stuck under the stress of it so long you now have physical disabilities from it too. It's hell that I currently can't physically or financially escape from. And if I don't get to ever do it the 'right' way then I could lose access to my nephews and niece and I want to keep them safe.
I loved the dichotomy of V & Evie. The rage of retribution born in fire and the sorrow of surviving reborn in water. Trauma can do many things to people but ultimately we can channel it into something powerful.
V for Vendetta is one of my absolute favorite movies. And to this day, it's the only movie that my mother has watched and then hugged me afterwards, thanking me for making her watch it.
With this movie being one of my all time favorites and it having SO many interesting messages and themes as well as the beautifully complicated relationship of the protagonists, V for Vendetta had always been in my top 3 movies that I desperately wanted you to talk about. I couldn’t believe it when TH-cam told me you were actually doing a video about it, WITH THE FREAKING DIRECTOR NONETHELESS. Thank you so much for this. I guess dreams do come true.
@@CinemaTherapyShow he’s so brilliant and talented and certainly seems like a great guy! I’m so happy you got the opportunity to chat with him and could share some of that with us!
This is my favorite movie of all time. I watch it every 5th of November. It's an absolute masterpiece. Thank you for doing this movie. I've never clicked so fast on a notification!
V For Vendetta is one of those rare movies for me that while it may not necessarily be BETTER than the source material, it's at least just as good, but for different reasons. I like the ending of the graphic novel better, but the movie has fewer plotlines and is easier to follow, not to mention exciting action sequences. Like I said, both good, but for different reasons. Great video, as always. One scene I prefer better in the movie than the graphic novel is the "God is in the rain" scene. It happens in the comic, but the film makes the parallel with V's baptism in fire, and I totally dig that. For the record, like many, I saw the movie before I read the source material, so Evie emerging from the prison, learning what really happened to her, messed with me something fierce.
C-PTSD is such a wild ride. Natalie Portman did such a good job portraying that moment of retraumatization. I appreciate how sensitively y'all handle trauma related topics
I was just telling a friend that I watch this movie every year on the 5th of November for I think about 10 years. One of my favorite movies, if not the favorite. Thank you for covering it !
Probably my favorite Weaving performance, and Portman as well. You never even see his face!.. but you don't need to.. in fact it's 10x more impactful. He emotes so well though that mask it's insane! This is definitely an underrated classic! Always lives in my heart rent free! I must admit, I'm not as big a fan of the only slow motion combat these days.. but that was definitely a product of the time.
Oooo how fun, I was wondering if you were going to do an episode on V! I'm working on convincing a friend of mine to watch _V for Vendetta_ with me if only for him LOL. My family and I find him to be a highly intriguing neutral (but not docile!) character, and I think she'd like him a lot for that, too :) (Edit: I also wanted to ask, have you been well? You both seem rather tired here, even with Alan's exuberance. Hopefully things are or will be alright
V to me is a hero of another form that you don't see very often. The gray areas that he and this movie explore are groundbreaking. Say what you will of the contrasts of the movie and the original work by Alan Moore. The movie and the character are so powerful in their meanings. There is so much to it thats defining to reality and the individual heart/spirit.
I remember watching this as a kid with my father, I didn’t understand any of the messages or subtitles of any of it. Watching as an adult, so much makes sense and makes me think.
This was incredible to watch. As a trans lesbian living in Florida this movie has been one of the central points of guidance and learning in my life. Thank you James, and everyone on the movie for the masterclass piece you gifted us. Thank you CT also for this brilliant BTS look and analysis, subscribed.
I am a queer person of color and I can't even fathom what it must be like to live in florida right now i live in california and while hatred lives everywhere it's nothing compared to the south, i definitely think you are courageous, Stay safe out there friend!!!
@@anitacrumbly I've not been outside since late 2019 except for dr and hospital. All my food is bought by my mates or family with my money. Sleep during the day, live online do ttrpgs and video games. I would like to be able to do..anything outside but like..feminine clothing and my beard refusing to go away is just asking to be assaulted *sigh*
I watched V for Vendetta for the very first time a few years back, on the 5th of November. I was 21 when I saw it, and at first didn't known much about it other than Anonymous uses V's mask and message to represent themselves. I fell in love with the movie and doted about it for a while. I'm glad you guys all sat down together to talk about it, it helped me understand V and Evie's relationship more than I did before.
Congratulations @cinematherapyshow!! So proud and excited for you! This was another stellar video and I was screaming when you introduced the director. All the best to you both 👏🏽
V for Vendetta’s been increasingly important as I grow up. I know it’s not accurate to the original comics but the movie will always have a significant place in my heart as a manifesto to never give in to cruel circumstances and an idea will always survive. Thank you so much for having the director of this masterpiece on here. ❤
I recently read the graphic novel because I loved this movie so much, and it turns out that the film was a really faithful adaptation as far as I can remember.
*An Inch, it is small and it is fragile, but it is the only thing the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.* I still watch Valerie's speech sometimes. Never fails to make me feel.
Alan Moore, the venerable visionary behind 'V for Vendetta,' expressed vehement vexation, deeming it a vivid violation of his vision. The movie's veering verbatim, a verge of voragine. This video’s valutazione, a valuable view and voyage through the visuals, vividly exploring the various facets and values embedded within the cinematic version.
One of my absolute favorite movies and I have not been able to watch it in years because of how relevant it's gotten. I used to watch it every fifth of November and when I tried to in 2016, I just couldn't do it. It felt like watching the future at that point and covid just made that feeling stronger. Truly one of the most powerful movies I have ever watched. The fact that Hugo Weaving didn't get an Oscar for this is ridiculous. The fact that he consistently makes me forget that I can't actually see his expression is amazing. I have a few movies that I think everyone should watch at least once and this is one of them.
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You missed the opportunity to have this release on the 5th of November
I love the Marvel series yall did a while back!! I'd personally love it if yall circled back there and covered characters more in depth like Bucky Barnes's walk with his past or Rhodey, or Yelana!! Love watching yall, btw. Keep it up!
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57 alright then, I won’t
love how you did the comp for james on the theatre seat. ;')
It's slightly irresponsible to psychologically review a movie about violence overcoming violence given the geopolitical reality in the Middle East and not addressing the effects of the cycle of violence in the real world.
26:00 "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having" is actually a quote from known anarchist and feminist Emma Goldman (1869-1940). She said that in response to some young activist man who was telling her that dancing wasn't fit for a revolutionnary. She answered that a revolution that doesn't celebrate the joys of life is not a revolution worth having.
True, there have been so many revolutions where the revolutionaries turned out to be so much worse than their original oppressors when they overthrew them. You've got to be able to love and have respect for life if you ever hope to make a positive change.
@@meh2510Amen!!
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That’s the strange paradox of revolutions. Because those with the ambition for powers for themselves have more drive to complete the revolution than those that’s simply want a better system.
Hello Future Me’s video on revolutions really highlights how complicated revolutions truly are.
@@J-manli HFM produces some really outstanding videos.
Thank's for the reminder, haven't had time to look into those, but I value his other content, a shout out well deserved! @@J-manli
As a story that gets frighteningly more relevant as time goes on, I really appreciate this movie. It's not just a blatant sociopolitical message, it's not just gratuitous violence against the government, and it's not even about V. As she says at the end, he's all of us. It's about an idea that people should be free, to do good or bad, to make mistakes, to choose for themselves. That, I think, is one of the most basic concepts humanity can ever rally behind.
Why is this film more relevant than ever? Why do you say so? 😗
It's an idea not just for the middle class "nice" people who are oppressed.
Two Central American countries have rounded up thousands of people, without trial, saying they're gang members, and they're being placed in grim prisons.
Yes, life is better for those left untouched, presumably innocent, but friends and families can get no information about the people imprisoned. And, without doubt, some are innocent.
@@veramae4098 yo vivo en un país dominado por el narcotráfico y las pandillas que lo controlan. Todos los días muere gente inocente en medio de las luchas entre pandillas. Todos los días, niños pierden sus vidas porque son prácticamente secuestrados y lavados de mente por estas pandillas para que les sirvan como mulas. En mi país necesitamos un Bukele. Así que no defiendas a esas ratas que tantas vidas se cargaron, o terminas siendo cómplice. Decidieron cagarse en las vidas de miles de personas, se enriquecieron a costa de la miseria de la gente, no se lo pensaron dos veces en jalar gatillos. Y sobre los pocos inocentes encerrados? Se están realizando investigaciones y ya han sido liberados más de 6.000 y el número avanza.
@@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs Probably because Facism is rising in the West. There are far-right governments and parties gaining popularity in Europe and around the world that are pretty anti-freedom and free speech, even though that's what they pretend to stand for.
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs have you seen the ending to this movie. It kind of predicts some events that happen in the US at least.
featuring this timeless, important masterpiece? with the actual director? i cant believe this. you really outdid yourselfes! bravo! you give this movie the recognition it deserves!
This movie was amazing and one of the best comic book adaptations there is!
Yes yes yes
I've never seen the movie.
I THOUGHT THE SAME, THIS IS INSAAAAAAAANE 😁😁
Yes 🙌🏻 a 💯
To take a phenomenal actor like Hugo Weaving, and hide his face behind an emotionless mask is such a risk, but for him to still be able to deliver such a powerful emotional performance really is a credit to his skill. So many great actors would be totally powerless behind a mask like that. Hugo Weaving pulls it off so well.
It's even more complimentary to Weaving because the guy they originally hired didn't want to leave the mask on.
@@AFLoneWolf Right. I have heard some actors have it in their contracts that their face must be shown for X amount of time. That's why they Have the shots of RDJ from inside the iron man helmet, and why none of MCU heroes wear their masks and helmets very long.
Karl Urban in Dredd does it equally well, and I‘d say this although his mouth and chin are visible, there is very little if anything by way of emotion shown. It is almost a part of the mask
Not to mention the fact, whereas most other actors often covered completely in make-up or a mask are able to act with their eyes, Hugo isn't even afforded *that.* His performance is entirely conveyed through voice and body language, and the best part is, he makes it come off so natural you almost don't even *notice* that his eyes are hidden away as well until you really start picking apart the performance (or rather, that's been my experience, at least). 🌹
Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
The fact the panic attack scene was the first scene Hugo and Natalie filmed together is insane! Literally so freaking well done to the both of them honestly!
Wow, I had no idea that was the first scene! It's so emotionally charged and beautifully acted!
For real what a jump head first into it lol
My favourite scene from this movie is the Evey is reborn scene. It shows the parallels between both Evey and V, who were both technically created by the same method, but were reborn differently.
V was reborn in fire and became full of rage and wanted revenge and vengeance, but Evey was reborn in water, discovered that god was in the rain, found inner peace with her past. Shows that someone may go through same traumatic experiences, but everyone will come out the other side differently.
Also another favourite line is when one of the doctors that V kills asked V “Is it meaningless to apologise?” And V responds “Never.”
I love this movie! It always gives me goosebumps! ❤
V was reborn in fire so Evie could be reborn in water.
@katemiller4084 are you in my head? That was my take, too. The letter she reads as she's being tortured, the way the author of the letter, and V, were tortured, is absolutely heartbreaking even as it reveals the core strengths in each of them. After all, who are we when our name, family, work, home, apparel and appearance, our rights, our choices, and even our own voice, are stripped from us?
Even their names are in correlation. The number 5 is big theme throughout the film. Evie's name is broken down into two letter sounds, E which is the 5th letter of the alphabet and V, which is the 5th from last letter of the alphabet. V is also the roman numeral for 5.
Its totally in character for V to have a theatrical alliterative monologue. I don't know if it was Hugo's performance, the crew's genius, or a combination of both, but V has a much more somber and genuine tone for one line in it "the only verdict, is vengeance". That vengeance, for better or worse, ultimately does define him as much as his personality does.
It should be noted that it also represents their gender and what that represents. Female energy is often depicted with water and life giving imagery, forgiveness and nurturing. Male energy is often associated with fire, rage, vengeance, and justice.
“Is this therapy? No. Is it therapeutic? Yes.”
Not Jono unintentionally (or intentionally?) summarizing CinemaTherapy 👏🏻 ❤
Hugo Weaving should have gotten an Oscar for his performance.
Facts.
Never shows his face and yet you can understand who V is just by his voice/tone and mannerisms and then be able to empathise with him. Voiceover work is highly underrated.
Absolutely. I feel like he should get Oscar's all the time, but thats just me.
@@j.munday7913nah, not just you ❤
He owned the late 90s to early 2000s with a series of iconic roles.
Hugo Weaving’s performance in this movie blows me away. With nothing but his voice (which is admittedly amazing) and his pure physicality, he’s nothing short of absolutely mesmerizing.
I think the most heart wrenching thing about V is he fought so hard to ignite a change; A change for a better world. A world he could never thrive in.
The curse of all revolutionaries...once a guerilla, always a guerilla.
That sentiment is why we are where we are. No one wants to be the person to make a better world. They all think they deserve to live there. None of them do. But you can't convince them and you are never going to get them to think of anyone more than themselves. Most certainly not the potential people of some future generation. That, to me, is the heart wrenching part. The fact that it's the docile cogs who get to enjoy a world they never bothered to create.
@@Ahzpayne ...I feel you get that kind of backwards; "docile cogs" aren't necessarily enjoying themselves, they just think that they don't have the power to change it. They/we've been beat down into "that's just the way it is".
@@tracy4290 the sacrifice not having been made the world they will get to enjoy has not been created yet. is reading really so difficult?
Hmm. I need to go watch Andor again. Thanks for the reminder.
No freaking way!!!! I dresses up as V for Halloween and just rewatched! LETS DO THIS
Ok, 5 mins into it and I dropped a like during the SurfShark ad because of Alan.
Just bought the mask. I've been meaning to, but this pushed me.
For real, I haven't even thought about this movie for years and for some reason I started talking about it someone just yesterday, then suddenly this appeared on my recommeded! I had to watch it immediately.
They’re great at doing movies that you’ve somehow JUST recently watched.
@@ryanthompson2462 Similar here. I knew about that movie for years but didn't know what it was about. Just a few days ago I watched a video about how to write a revolution that showed scenes of "V like Vendetta" and I thought that movie seems interesting and now Cinema Therapy did a video about it.
I WAS V FOR HALLOWEEN TOO!!!
Stephen Fry was an absolutely brilliant piece of casting. Then again, the whole movie was beautifully cast.
I’d pay money for y’all to watch all of The Boys and tell us wtf is wrong with Homelander
All the things are wrong with Homelander.
oh my god yes
Omfl, yes. The dude is unstable af there's no hope in saving that mf.
What *isn’t* wrong with Homelander?
Homelander is a therapist's wet dream
Any time CT gets principle filmmakers on their videos (directors, writers, actors, etc) always makes that episode extra special. And you got James McTeigue for V for Vendetta??? We couldn't have asked for a better guest!
We’re so honored he came on the show!
28:07 in the original graphic novel, they never revealed V's face either. There was a scene pondering the face beneath the mask, wondering if it was one of the other characters seen in the story or some mundane reveal. The lesson was that it doesn't matter who is behind the mask, only what the mask stands for.
Anyone else find it odd that no credit here was given to the graphic novel, Alan Moore or anyone involved?
@@kendelia9609yes but then again, Mr. Moore didn't want any credit for the movie.
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Yes!
Not taking away from brilliant hosts and the director and screenwriters, but when talking about plot details being "early on in the script" and ZERO mentions of "yeah, we took this directly from the original material" - made me cringe...
But also, remember that at the end when all of the other people wearing the masks took theirs off. Hence, everyone is V and V is everyone.
For me, it was a simpler lesson. We are not our faces. Our face, our skin, our bones, nothing physical about us has to necessarily define us. But also, nothing physical of someone has has to define them. Not height, not weight, not color, not beauty, not deformity. Not the clothes they wear, the cars they drive, the jobs they have. What defines someone are their ideas AND their actions.
Back in high school there are so many students in my drama class, who tried to do V's opening monologue to Evie, and his broadcast speech, and it just can't be pulled off by someone who isn't classically trained. Hugo Weaving is an actor who is cut from a rare cloth.
Hugo Weaving should've gotten MUCH more praise for his performance. He pulls off a brilliantly compelling performance without EVER showing his face (a primary part of communication), relying solely on his voice and body language to flesh out these scene. I've always seen this as a modern interpretation of George Orwelle's '1984', even if that was entirely an accident.
Not an accident at all. Ever notice the guy who plays this film's "Big Brother" (John Hurt) played Winston in 1984?
Oh absolutely! His performance is entirely conveyed through voice and body language, and the best part is, he makes it come off so natural you almost don't even notice that his eyes (which actors covered in make-up or masks will often resort to, see most Beauty & the Beast adaptations) are hidden away as well, not until you really start picking apart the performance (or rather, that's been my experience, at least). 🌹
F*ck man. Hugo Weaving deserves all the praise for any of his performances. Like, being able to do a cold character like Agent Smith or a power hungry and narcissistic theatrical villain like the Red Skull? Like, at first, you'd be like "How do you act with a mask on the entire time?" And then you look at Hugo Weaving's skills and you go "Oh, with Hugo Weaving, that's how."
I remember with the "V" dialog opening why Hugo Weaving is the only person who could have played him. And I had only known him as Elrond at this point.
But maybe he’s actually a certain agent and this is just the Matrix.
@@Justanotherconsumer It's so interesting to me that Hugo went from playing the enforcer of a brain-washing institution, to playing the part of someone trying to tear one down. It's such a fun inversion and really shows his versatility as an actor.
He was great as Elrond too.
Man I "met" him in The adventures of Priscilla Queen of the desert... So it's been a very wild ride, he has RANGE
@@RainyDayWolfomg i love that movie 😂
That scene where Evi wanted to take off the mask got me thinking about Phantom of the Opera- both had disfigured faces but Erik (Phantom) was desperate for love and approval for what was underneath, whereas V wanted to protect Evi from what was underneath. I don’t think V is ‘bad’ even though he’s done bad things.
I was thinking the same thing. I thought I was the only one who was reminded of Erik when Evi was about to take the mask off. Regardless of their differences both characters are amazing.
He’s deafly supposed to be bad, Alan Moore wrote him to be a psychopath, a deranged product of the bad guys.
This movie was SO formative for me growing up. This has really helped shape how I feel about our society. This is on par with Orwell on how impactful it is and how well it articulates how easy it is for society to slip into a dark place. I have the DVD, one of the few I still own in the digital age. And its for all the special features. Because those are just as amazing as the movie itself.
Yes! I was 16 when it came out and it was perfect timing.
have you read the actual comic book though?
I have the same feelings. I grew up in homophobic and racist country. But this movie changed my perspective. I watched it every year since I was 8. Every year I understood much more. This movie changed my mind
A fun thing to keep in mind is that, ultimately, V is a horrible person. But the point of the story is that V is not even a person "per se". He's a symbol. And thus, by the end of the movie, he dies. And he's not remembered fondly as a person because he never was one. He's remembered fondly as a symbol because he always was. A symbol of democracy. A symbol of rising up against tyranny.
V for Vendetta, to me, tells us that the heroes that rise up against injustice don't always have to be flawless individuals. They don't even have to be decent human beings. All they have to be is a symbol that empowers others to rise up.
Well, he was a person once, before they imprisoned, tortured, and experimented on, him. I was took it that he believed that person was so changed by what they did that he wasn't really there anymore, which is why he as a part of their awful work had to die with it.
I think there's some interesting parallels one could make to the number of soldiers who come home from war with PTSD and find they have to go back, or kill/harm themselves or others, because they can't fit back in to 'normal'/civilian life.
He channelled all of his (entirely justified) rage, pain and trauma into taking then down with him, so they couldn't continue do the same to anyone else. But like he taught Evey (sp?), some times there's worse things than dying for what you believe in
Could the same thing be said about famous people in history that were said to not be entirely good people?
Because no one person is entirely good. Just as no one person is entirely evil. V had a point with Evey in his lesson to her.
He knew there would be the high chance a new danger shows up, and it would be Evey's task to deal with that.@@dawsondebell1603
@@dawsondebell1603 Most actual heroes are terrible people. That's why they can go as far as they do. They are not good people, they are just people who are willing to do what is necessary. That's also what makes them so strong as characters.
Why was he a horrible person? He was super kind and compassionate. He destroyed evil. Maybe he didn't need to seek revenge like he did.
As someone living un UK that yearly celebrates bonfire night (guy fawkes day) , I really love that this was posted as close as you could for the 5th of November. People yearly protest in London on the 5th about a variety of causes and fireworks get shot off generally the whole week between halloween and bonfire night across the country.
We intentionally posted it when we did as a way to celebrate the holiday!
I always watch this with my family around Bonfire Night because of how relatable and applicable to nowadays despite it being based on an important piece of British history.
V not only saw his actions as a 'necessary evil', but also understood that 'necessary' doesn't negate that they ARE evil. So many people (in real life and in media) throw the phrase of 'necessary evil' around and act as though that absolves them of the ramifications that come with what they've done. As you've said, the way he hangs his head and slumps his shoulders humanizes him because we know, based on them, that he feels ashamed of his necessary evils. But he still does them because they are necessary.
I wish I'd watched this movie in its entirety when I was growing up--I watched it much later and it didn't really hit me as hard as it would now in recent years. When I was younger, I didn't understand the torture segment nor the conversation afterwards. Strange, now, how much I understand as an adult.
This vid was so cool, it's amazing that you got the director to join in! Thank you and your crew as always, I enjoyed it very much.
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There are parallels between this and Luthen Rael's "What have I sacrificed?" monologue in Andor.
I cannot, CANNOT believe this is for free on the internet, V for Vendetta has always been a formidable movie for me and to see and hear from the director?? I cannot believe it, so proud of you guys and so happy to be here watching this
When she starts having a panic attack, I love the subtle moment where he offers his support and waits for her to give him her hand, just a great subtle way to show that he still respects her freedom and choices, even if he kept her captive to set her free.
V for vendetta has such a weird and special meaning to me. Me and my best friend have watched it on 5th of november for four years now, and the first time i watched it was just hours before my whole world basically collapsed. I feel like watching v for vendetta kickstarted a journey of self-discovery and every year as i watch it i am reminded of how far i've come from where i was. It is truly a masterpiece that i hope i will be watching for the years to come.
I had a similar experience with this movie. I was going through religious deconstruction at the time, and had been suffering from some serious trauma. One November 5th, it happened to storm, and I ended up pausing the movie during her moment in the rain, and ran out and laid down and sobbed for 10 minutes in the rain and thunder. I didn't know then what I believed, but I knew I was no longer Catholic. I have since deconstructed from religion, and am at peace. I have also managed to move on from my trauma for the most part as well. I am no longer having panic attacks like I used to.
My family watch it every year as well. Raised my kid on it.
Yeah, I remember this movie when I was in my early teens, and now I'm in my 20s. And I realized a lot of it has inspired a lot of my general interest in activism to this day, though activism is a lot more mainstream here in the early 2020s than around the early 2010s, yet at the same time, there's a bigger backlash to that because the movement has gotten stronger. I tried to research every single social issue I could find, followed multiple content makers in blogs/videos/forums/social media online who knew about the issue, heard from real life stories around the issue, read as many books as possible on different social issue, or even volunteered the way I can (through my own nerdy scientific/tech background), and I say a lot of that has came from movies like V for Vendetta.
I mean it wasn't the only one, but it was one of the major inspirations for all of that now that I think about it. Cinema Therapy mentioning all this brings back all types of memories, though I guess the change is that there's less of the edgy "I f///ing hate people who make society worse," to more of the, "I don't care 99% of the time people say something mean on the news or the internet because I'm so used to it though I find ways to help in my free time from to time" but still overall, my goals haven't changed that much. So I guess the way I look at this movie is different from when I was slightly younger than now, it seems.
I know doing all that sounds complicated, but if people want a mini exposure to all these deeper topics, I suggest just looking up related quotes to activism. Pick what you like, as my suggestion. Quotes about racism, quotes about feminism, quotes about the environment, quotes about poverty, quotes about mental illness, quotes about disability, quotes about trauma, quotes about LGBTQIA+ rights, quotes about immigrants, quotes about war, quotes about refugees, quotes about hunger, quotes about physical illness/chronic illness/terminal illness, or whatever comes to mind for many of you. Then pause at a quote that makes you have a bigger emotional reaction, and take time to think it over and reflect over it. I'm a quote collector as a hobby, and I recommend it if anyone would like it.
That was their first scene together?!?!?!? NO. WAY. I knew they were my heroes for a reason
"I can't feel anything anymore!"
I've been there. Once you've lost what you're afraid of losing, once you've survived your greatest fear, and overcome it...
Nothing is scary anymore. There is peace. Yes, sometimes there's a temporary wave of regret or sense of loss, but the fear is gone. You realize you can handle anything.
You're going to be ok. You're safe now, no matter what happens.
You either physically die or you keep on living. No inbetween
Personally I don't think being beaten down to the point of emotional exhaustion should be lauded. That's a bad thing, dude, and yes people can survive a lot but they shouldn't *have* to!
I felt this way after my mother died.
Yes you become very strong, and you lose fear of a lot of things. But you also are robbed of things too. It gets harder to feel happiness. You lose your innocence and trust.
Ultimately it can become a positive thing, but it's so painful.
“There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence.”
"I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But, I don't trust coincidences."
While not as subtle as the source material, it was great to see V's face obscured as it demonstrates the idea he represents is more important than the man under that mask.
I feel like they missed a trick not posting this on the 5th but so much fun I love this movie! Thank you for doing it. When I was younger I put on captions and looked up every word of the “V” speech so I knew exactly what he was saying. Amazing writing.
I feel like this movie should be screened, non-stop, every platform, every channel, every streaming service for 24 hours. Imagine the impact if everyone saw it. Tis one always moved me. I found the graffic novel years ago and it was just as moving.
i feel like if they did that here in the US there would be another civil war within weeks. something we very much need at this point. however, i also feel that those of us fighting for our rights and equality would be overwhelmed and lose
To be honest I dont think it would make the impact you think it would. A huge majority of people view movies and media as purely entertainment and fiction, so they dont really take much away from it or think about it outside of the time they spend watching it. I am fortunately not one of those people who just mindlessly consume and expel medias that I watch or read from my brain once they're over, but there is an ever present and constant fight between people like us, and those who say "it's only a movie" or "it's just a story" online.
At the most this movie would inspire those who already agree with it's message, or those like you or myself who actually take messages and lessons away from the things we watch or read. But people who never thought about it before, or dont view media the same way we do, would probably just see it as a fun bit of fiction that they will later forget about. Maybe this is a bit overly cynical, but this is just what i've seen and experienced back when I also thought that "if only everyone could see this one piece of media that has moved and fundamentally changed me, it would make such an impact on the world." And then was disappointed to see online that not everyone had the same experience or view of the piece of media that I did. And if I tried to express my own view or feelings on it, they were either rejected or ignored. V for Vendetta was one of those experiences for me.
It could even lose its impact over time. Like the annual TV marathon of "A Christmas Story" -- everyone would just ignore it after a while.
The irony of wanting to essentially force the masses to watch V for Vendetta in the hopes of shaping society with repeated messaging is lowkey hilarious.
The acting in this movie is the next best thing to perfect. That moment when Evie says they created a monster, despite the mask you can see the pain, the acceptance, and the ambivalence on his face.
The fact that this masterpiece just as relevant now, if not more so, as it was then is... Sad. And horrifying.
This movie should be required viewing for everyone. Could you imagine how people might react to the state of things if everyone had learned the lessons it was trying to teach?
Based on the usual voting patterns, I suspect that maybe 50% of American citizens would take nothing from this movie because they are so programmed otherwise that they would incapable of recognizing its message for what it is.
No way you got the freaking director for V this masterpiece with you guys it’s incredible
“Remember remember the 5th of November, the gun powered treason and plot. For I know of no reason why the gun powdered treason, should ever be forgot.”
I hate to be this person, but it's "gunpowder," referring to Guy Fawkes' Gunpowder Treason of 1605. I can understand how you could mishear it as "gun powered," though. The nursery rhyme in full below:
Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
The gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason
Why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, 'twas his intent
To blow up the King and the Parliament
Three score barrels of powder below
Poor old England to overthrow
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match
Holler boys, holler boys, let the bells ring
Holler boys, holler boys
God save the King!
It’s funny - this is basically a tradition against Catholics, but I was brought up to love this tradition, and my (Catholic) school and church held an annual fireworks and bonfire (without guy Fawkes atop), which we all went to. It is a great time.
@@lizcarter4521the persecution of Catholics in England is something we… seem to have chosen to forget.
A lot of the Christian-on-Christian violence seems to be conveniently forgotten.
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“Only the history the victorious writes is remembered”
@@kyothinks It’s all good 👍 I was trying to quote Evey’s narration in the beginning of the movie by memory, and I wondered if I got it down right 😅 lol
this is one of my all time favorite movies, just below lord of the rings. it's a lesson in freedom but it's also a lesson in oppressive states. Hugo's acting thru just his body and voice are masterful
Love how this was posted before the 5th of November so we can observe that day the right way by rewatching this movie!
Exactly!
I cannot begin to say how much this movie means to me! I have watched it at different times in my life and each time I reflect on what my life was like, who I understood myself to be. The beautiful portrayal of a lesbian love story and how central it was to everything, really helped me to see such a relationship in a positive light. I think in many ways representation like this is ultimately what helped me on the road to realizing I am a lesbian.
*So so grateful to everyone who worked to make this movie* ❤ I watched it when I was fairly young with my parents and I memorized his presentation from day one... the message means so much to me as I work with people in prison. Thank you!
The discussion of consent made me think of Samaritan law in life-saving. When you're saving someone's life, you actually need to make sure it's okay with them before you touch them or do anything. Unless they fall unconscious, then there's actually a rule about implied consent, and you can go ahead and try and save their life. It's interesting how closely it ties to this
Every single character in this movie is so well characterized that you could probably make multiple hours of cinema therapy just talking about them all: How they reacted to pressure, how they relieve it, their coping mechanisms, how they justify things to themselves. Every character is just balancing on a knife edge in a storm of tension, waiting to fall... Like dominoes.
This movie has been my absolute favorite non-animated film ever since it came out, I saw it three times in theaters before they changed it out. It is also one of the 5 movies that can bring me to tears. Also the mask, it never changes its expression but the actor is so talented with body language and voice inflection that you would swear that it does.
I feel you
I absolutely love this film. The relationship between V and Evy is all about transformation to me. His transformation at the beginning of his journey in the film, his transforming her and deprogramming her, her connecting with him during the last part of the film. That scene with her in the rain harkening back to him escaping the facility pure gold.
"V" is among the very few films I feel improves upon the source material, even if only a little. The action is action, sure, but the rest, the terror and heartbreak, the passion and sorrow, and capped at the end with the Vindication and memory of all those who were lost and who suffered... hoo boy. I cry my eyes out at the end of this film.
A shame you guys didn't talk about the scene with Evey stepping out in the rain after being released from 'prison'. While most of it is pretty obvious (the cut between her laughing in the rain and him roaring in flames is pretty clear symbolism), I would've loved to hear from the director about that scene and how deep it actually went. Episodes like this are fantastic for film nerds, and I hope y'all get to cover more movies with help from the crew behind them! :)
I saw v for vendetta when i was 12 in an imax theater with my mom, dad, sister, and grandma. Dad always laughed when he talked about walking out of the movie, because his mom HATED it, and I loved it so much I was practically bouncing off walls. Completely opposite sides of the spectrum.
I must confess, and it’s not just with you guys, when any TH-camr does a sponsorship, I usually just kind of tune out. But this one was absolutely brilliant, I loved it!
This is one of the few movies I have vivid memory of seeing with my grandfather. It was an eye opening view on society. I’ll never forget the moment we realize in real time with her that the prison was all “fake”. That shock me to the core the first time I watched it. I’m gonna have to look at the patreon and watch the directors cut on this. Thank you for featuring it.
I’ve been waiting for this movie to become a Cinema Therapy episode
This episode is pretty good timing for me and the fellow Brits in the audience considering it's bonfire night on Sunday (I mean that's probably why it was released today but it's still nice)
Yes, and because we don’t post on weekends so you get it a bit early!
What a stroke of genius it was to cast Hugo Weaving in this role, his voice gives me chills! One of my favorite films
That is an opening scene for a character, with so much complex dialog, I appreciated it as a teenager and I still love it.
I've loved this since I read Alan Moore's graphic novel and I was so happy that when I watch it's movie adaptation, it was just as good. This movie is still so relavant and the acting/direction was so good. I still watch it every year on the 5th.
I remember watching this for the first time around the time Covid was underway and the 2020 US Election was in full swing. With that frame of time when I was viewing this movie, it hit hauntingly close to home. And honestly, it made me more active and vocal in my politics for obvious reasons; so in that aspect, this movie's story and message are highly effective.
V for Vendetta has to be the most accurate comic book to movie adaptation ever, it’s utterly brilliant! I can’t believe you got the director to join you on my favourite movie!
…I watched your Surfshark add entirely because I wanted to be impressed by your commitment to the V iteration. You did not disappoint. 😆
I haven't ever seen V, but this 3:12 whole speech ending in her asking "are you like a crazy person?" just had me instantly quip back "no, he's a theater kid...but close enough" Honestly this is me when talking about theater or theater tech stuff cause I get so excited at how it works.
This is the first time I heard of this movie but now, I wanted to watch the full one. Thank you, Cinema Therapy for introducing me to this movie!
You will not regret it ;)
What I love about the “under the bed hiding” scenes is that young Evie covers her teddy bear’s eyes with a hand and then older Evie covers her mouth with her hand. Idk if it just happened organically but I love the details 🎉
I am so happy that you are covering this movie. I would have never expected you guys to ever cover this movie at all. It's got a special place in my heart and is honestly one of the coolest movies ever. And it's one of the best adaptations of a comic book to movie in my personal opinion. Hell, I would say V for vendetta is definitely one of the most unique and most captivating Indie comic book graphic novels, along with Alan Moore's other work in watchmen, James O' Barr's The Crow, and the Og Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics from Mirage by Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman.
This is one of the most influential films I have ever seen. Rewatching this movie during the 2020 election/ covid era really gave me the hope I needed to keep moving forward.
Thank you for covering this. You guys keep doing the great work you do. I know your work has helped me.
Well you can color me surprised, I didn’t think you guys would ever do this movie. Now you just need to take a look at the RDJ Sherlock Holmes and Cast Away, and that’s my wish list about finished.
Hugo Weaving's acting in this movie is nothing short of phenomenal. The way he conveys emotion in such subtle, but obvious ways with his face covered is simply amazing. To me, this is one of his best, if not his very best, work. I love this movie so much.
I LOVE that Alan commented on the small step back V takes after Evey telling him that line. Its such a powerful image and acting. I always loved it.
Oh that is SO cool that you got James on!
V and Evie's relationship is both fascinating and terrifying. Do I know why V does what he does to her, yes - but you'd think someone who's suffered as he has would NEVER wish that on anyone else.
I think the only way the mask coming off could work was if his back was turned away from Evie so that she could maybe see the scars from his burns, but nothing else.
OMG I am so excited to see this movie discussed. It is one of my all time favorites! My papa introduced it to me when I was a child and now I can practically quote the whole thing.
As always I love what Cinema Therapy does and what it has to say about the characters we idolize and reference.
I love the casting of John Hurt made me laugh when I first saw it in the theater. Winston Smith has become Big Brother. It was perfect to me.
Also, I'd been a huge fan of Sinead Cusack for two decades, so seeing her as the doctor was brilliant.
I have CPTSD and just been retraumatized this past month. 35 years old and it's hell. Especially if what caused it is still happening and you've been stuck under the stress of it so long you now have physical disabilities from it too. It's hell that I currently can't physically or financially escape from. And if I don't get to ever do it the 'right' way then I could lose access to my nephews and niece and I want to keep them safe.
This is my favorite movie of all time! So many layers! The amazing acting! The material! The explosions!
I loved this movie the moment I saw it back when I was a child. The older I get the more I love this film and the pain it fills me with
I loved the dichotomy of V & Evie. The rage of retribution born in fire and the sorrow of surviving reborn in water.
Trauma can do many things to people but ultimately we can channel it into something powerful.
I rewatched this in 2020, and it's stayed with me so much more than when it came out. Haunting and powerful. Thanks for the therapy.
V for Vendetta is one of my absolute favorite movies. And to this day, it's the only movie that my mother has watched and then hugged me afterwards, thanking me for making her watch it.
With this movie being one of my all time favorites and it having SO many interesting messages and themes as well as the beautifully complicated relationship of the protagonists, V for Vendetta had always been in my top 3 movies that I desperately wanted you to talk about. I couldn’t believe it when TH-cam told me you were actually doing a video about it, WITH THE FREAKING DIRECTOR NONETHELESS. Thank you so much for this. I guess dreams do come true.
It really was incredible getting to talk with James about this film! So talented, and an absolute delight to chat with.
@@CinemaTherapyShow he’s so brilliant and talented and certainly seems like a great guy! I’m so happy you got the opportunity to chat with him and could share some of that with us!
This is my favorite movie of all time. I watch it every 5th of November. It's an absolute masterpiece.
Thank you for doing this movie. I've never clicked so fast on a notification!
You're very welcome!
This movie's message is so powerful and sticks with you years later. It was very well done.
V For Vendetta is one of those rare movies for me that while it may not necessarily be BETTER than the source material, it's at least just as good, but for different reasons. I like the ending of the graphic novel better, but the movie has fewer plotlines and is easier to follow, not to mention exciting action sequences. Like I said, both good, but for different reasons. Great video, as always.
One scene I prefer better in the movie than the graphic novel is the "God is in the rain" scene. It happens in the comic, but the film makes the parallel with V's baptism in fire, and I totally dig that. For the record, like many, I saw the movie before I read the source material, so Evie emerging from the prison, learning what really happened to her, messed with me something fierce.
I have watched this every Nov 5th for YEARS now and it is scary how much the story has caught up with the real world in ways
C-PTSD is such a wild ride. Natalie Portman did such a good job portraying that moment of retraumatization. I appreciate how sensitively y'all handle trauma related topics
I was just telling a friend that I watch this movie every year on the 5th of November for I think about 10 years. One of my favorite movies, if not the favorite. Thank you for covering it !
Probably my favorite Weaving performance, and Portman as well. You never even see his face!.. but you don't need to.. in fact it's 10x more impactful. He emotes so well though that mask it's insane! This is definitely an underrated classic! Always lives in my heart rent free! I must admit, I'm not as big a fan of the only slow motion combat these days.. but that was definitely a product of the time.
Oooo how fun, I was wondering if you were going to do an episode on V! I'm working on convincing a friend of mine to watch _V for Vendetta_ with me if only for him LOL. My family and I find him to be a highly intriguing neutral (but not docile!) character, and I think she'd like him a lot for that, too :)
(Edit: I also wanted to ask, have you been well? You both seem rather tired here, even with Alan's exuberance. Hopefully things are or will be alright
V to me is a hero of another form that you don't see very often. The gray areas that he and this movie explore are groundbreaking. Say what you will of the contrasts of the movie and the original work by Alan Moore. The movie and the character are so powerful in their meanings. There is so much to it thats defining to reality and the individual heart/spirit.
The film is absolutely definitive proof that words and actions change the world.
I remember watching this as a kid with my father, I didn’t understand any of the messages or subtitles of any of it. Watching as an adult, so much makes sense and makes me think.
This was incredible to watch. As a trans lesbian living in Florida this movie has been one of the central points of guidance and learning in my life. Thank you James, and everyone on the movie for the masterclass piece you gifted us. Thank you CT also for this brilliant BTS look and analysis, subscribed.
I am a queer person of color and I can't even fathom what it must be like to live in florida right now i live in california and while hatred lives everywhere it's nothing compared to the south, i definitely think you are courageous, Stay safe out there friend!!!
@@anitacrumbly I've not been outside since late 2019 except for dr and hospital. All my food is bought by my mates or family with my money. Sleep during the day, live online do ttrpgs and video games. I would like to be able to do..anything outside but like..feminine clothing and my beard refusing to go away is just asking to be assaulted *sigh*
Honestly as a cis white guy I am just terrified for everyone living in red states right now.
I think this is one of the only films I like to rewatch annually without being a christmas film 😅 ❤
I watched V for Vendetta for the very first time a few years back, on the 5th of November. I was 21 when I saw it, and at first didn't known much about it other than Anonymous uses V's mask and message to represent themselves. I fell in love with the movie and doted about it for a while. I'm glad you guys all sat down together to talk about it, it helped me understand V and Evie's relationship more than I did before.
Congratulations @cinematherapyshow!! So proud and excited for you! This was another stellar video and I was screaming when you introduced the director. All the best to you both 👏🏽
V for Vendetta’s been increasingly important as I grow up. I know it’s not accurate to the original comics but the movie will always have a significant place in my heart as a manifesto to never give in to cruel circumstances and an idea will always survive. Thank you so much for having the director of this masterpiece on here. ❤
I adore this movie especially right now... 🇵🇸 it's hard to feel hopeful in an unhopeful place.
I recently read the graphic novel because I loved this movie so much, and it turns out that the film was a really faithful adaptation as far as I can remember.
Great movie. Not many people realize it's based on a comic (which is also fantastic!). Remember remember, time to watch this again on Sunday!
*An Inch, it is small and it is fragile, but it is the only thing the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.*
I still watch Valerie's speech sometimes. Never fails to make me feel.
That is so anti-metric! :D
Alan Moore, the venerable visionary behind 'V for Vendetta,' expressed vehement vexation, deeming it a vivid violation of his vision. The movie's veering verbatim, a verge of voragine.
This video’s valutazione, a valuable view and voyage through the visuals, vividly exploring the various facets and values embedded within the cinematic version.
Really really enjoyed this episode fellas. We got great therapist insight, and great film geeking, and a great guest!
One of my absolute favorite movies and I have not been able to watch it in years because of how relevant it's gotten. I used to watch it every fifth of November and when I tried to in 2016, I just couldn't do it. It felt like watching the future at that point and covid just made that feeling stronger. Truly one of the most powerful movies I have ever watched. The fact that Hugo Weaving didn't get an Oscar for this is ridiculous. The fact that he consistently makes me forget that I can't actually see his expression is amazing. I have a few movies that I think everyone should watch at least once and this is one of them.
This is an amazing movie and I love that you are covering it!!!!