Analyzing the hook (goro chagi) and the axe (naeryo chagi) we can see several problems with them in ITF sparring and the haxe basically gets the best of each, almost retiring them both. The axe protecs your body as it goes up, differently from the hook that usually leaves you open for a well timed blitz that allows your back to be taken. The haxe goes up in front enough as to discourage most types of approximation. The hook has a longer reach since you can project your hip more when compared to the axe that comes from a more squared stance. The haxe allows you to project your hip more, getting the range needed to score that makes the axe always fall short (literally). The axe can be used from both stances, even if primarily from a closed stance, while the hook will hit a high shoulder with tucked chin 9 out of 10 times. The axe can easily go over that shoulder. The axe also leaves you front facing as you fall closer to the opponent, which is important when trading punches in a close range while the hook, even if it hits, leaves you in a bad position, which kinda goes together with the first point, but more considering when you're using it offensively to close range and go to hands, which is an option that the haxe gives you and the hook doesn't. There is basically no follow up from the hook. Overall it's very hard to think of a situation where you would rather use either the hook or the axe instead of the haxe. It's a well deserved S tier.
Strongly disagree. Hook kick follows very naturally from a side kick or as a step-back counter. Downward kick is a brilliant shot if you've got the dynamism, with a switch after a front leg turning kick. Also you can do a side kick straight after a hook kick without dropping your leg.
Ride along, front leg carry and blitz is s class technique for the people with less flexibility like magomed naurdinov, Timothy bos. This tier list for fighters like martin finn, luke moriarty, ziga
Great analysis! Did you mention roundhouse to body? It's kinda fundamental part of blitz and front leg carry, isn't it. You can also counter side kick with switch round kick to body with back leg. I think that haxe is effective because of the (bad) rules. If you try to push forward into hax, leg will get stuck on the shoulder (of defender) and lead to "leg grab - minus point". This forces people to avoid hax by any cost. Anyhow, that final list is a perfect menu to plan task based sparring training. Start with top row and move downwards until its time to spar 😀
Where is the front side turning kick? Like a back leg turning to the body in an open stance or a quick one from the front leg in a closed stance? I think those are worth mentioning.
I think blind turning kick similar with axe also when orthodox vs orthodox. It is just lead turning kick to the head. Lead turning kick is important kick like haxe. Because haxe doesn't work good at the orthodox southpaw positions. Lead turning kick for me is S class
Analyzing the hook (goro chagi) and the axe (naeryo chagi) we can see several problems with them in ITF sparring and the haxe basically gets the best of each, almost retiring them both.
The axe protecs your body as it goes up, differently from the hook that usually leaves you open for a well timed blitz that allows your back to be taken. The haxe goes up in front enough as to discourage most types of approximation.
The hook has a longer reach since you can project your hip more when compared to the axe that comes from a more squared stance. The haxe allows you to project your hip more, getting the range needed to score that makes the axe always fall short (literally).
The axe can be used from both stances, even if primarily from a closed stance, while the hook will hit a high shoulder with tucked chin 9 out of 10 times. The axe can easily go over that shoulder.
The axe also leaves you front facing as you fall closer to the opponent, which is important when trading punches in a close range while the hook, even if it hits, leaves you in a bad position, which kinda goes together with the first point, but more considering when you're using it offensively to close range and go to hands, which is an option that the haxe gives you and the hook doesn't. There is basically no follow up from the hook.
Overall it's very hard to think of a situation where you would rather use either the hook or the axe instead of the haxe. It's a well deserved S tier.
Strongly disagree. Hook kick follows very naturally from a side kick or as a step-back counter. Downward kick is a brilliant shot if you've got the dynamism, with a switch after a front leg turning kick. Also you can do a side kick straight after a hook kick without dropping your leg.
Ride along, front leg carry and blitz is s class technique for the people with less flexibility like magomed naurdinov, Timothy bos. This tier list for fighters like martin finn, luke moriarty, ziga
Great analysis!
Did you mention roundhouse to body? It's kinda fundamental part of blitz and front leg carry, isn't it.
You can also counter side kick with switch round kick to body with back leg.
I think that haxe is effective because of the (bad) rules. If you try to push forward into hax, leg will get stuck on the shoulder (of defender) and lead to "leg grab - minus point". This forces people to avoid hax by any cost.
Anyhow, that final list is a perfect menu to plan task based sparring training. Start with top row and move downwards until its time to spar 😀
You are absolutely correct. It was somehow left out 🙃🙃
Where is the front side turning kick? Like a back leg turning to the body in an open stance or a quick one from the front leg in a closed stance?
I think those are worth mentioning.
I think blind turning kick similar with axe also when orthodox vs orthodox. It is just lead turning kick to the head. Lead turning kick is important kick like haxe. Because haxe doesn't work good at the orthodox southpaw positions. Lead turning kick for me is S class
Kind of feels like reverse punch, side kick & roundhouse kick is the basics you need to nail down really. Rest is good to have.
That's a good foundation. They have to be effective in many ways. Timing and Distance and other skills then facilitate those weapons.