I’ve driven Range Rovers for years and don’t really care about image and what other people think. They are the only vehicle that can take you to the South of France or Norway and back in total comfort. Can carry a huge amount of equipment for business or leisure, can tow 3.5 tons, pull up tree stumps and get me through winter floods without getting stressed. You hit the nail one the head when you said they are lovely to drive - the controls are weighted perfectly, the engine and transmission are silky smooth and because of the high driving position and large glass area manoeuvring and parking is much easier than you would expect. You simply get a better view of the world. The interior is very contemporary and tasteful - not over done old boys club like Bentley. I find driving my Range Rover relaxing, and I always seem to arrive chilled and looking forward to the return journey. I don’t find this with other vehicles. Im lucky enough to have driven driven Ferraris and Porsches and they are awesome.....For a few days. After that, the tyre noise, harshness, discomfort and lack of practicality take their toll. I used to spend quire a lot of time in the Middle East where for quite a few people cost is truly no object when purchasing a vehicle. One very wealthy gentlemen once said to me. “Here Ferraris and Lamborghinis are just toys for the city. For travel you need a real vehicle which will take you through the dust storms and the desert and keep you comfortable and safe. You take a Range Rover” And finally, in over thirty years of driving Range Rovers I have never broken down...but have assisted many other travellers who have.
Dave B I have to agree, having owned a jeep in the past nothing compares to a rangerover I'm on my second one now I only wish I had started driving them earlier
It's not just that though, this car as he says occupies this weird middle ground between practicality and luxury, it's not very good at either as it's too luxurious to be practical and too practical to be luxurious, and to me it makes not a damn lick of sense given how much it costs. If you are a country person, you have loads of space for vehicles, and you could buy a double cab 4wd ute or dedicated 4x4 for when you need to go full practical, and buy a pretty decent luxury saloon for when you want luxury for the same price as one of these giant status symbols - even have change left over depending on what you go with - and indeed I would suspect that is what most practical people do - which is why most of these things get sold to townies to take their kids to school in and show that they are keeping up with the joneses and might try to justify it by saying they have only one car park and need to drive on a country road once a decade. No matter how impressive the engineering and how clever the technology - they are pretty damn stupid from a totally rational standpoint.
@@kichaa13 Yes, it does seem to be that way - that's all I can think of when I see one go past "You probably only bought that because you are insecure and feel the need to let everyone know you are wealthy." If I was living in a large city I'd probably go for a Hyundai EV, not one of these retarded monstrosities.
"I've never understood criticizing a vehicle based on who purchases it. Shouldn't a vehicle be judged by it's attributes?" Thing is, we've had Range Rovers for 40+ years now. The people that buy it, for better or worse, will have a significant influence on its future iterations. This particular generation of Range Rover is the product of the influence of the previous generation's buyers, and most businesses will simply just follow the money and cater to what those previous buyers wanted, with slight improvements here and there. So yeah, maybe lazy journalism...but perhaps journalists aren't the only ones slacking off.
‘This car doesn’t deliver the level of comfort I expect’. Man, it’s a Range Rover and can be criticised for many things but lack of comfort surely isn’t one of them.
Tom Bell - Thanks for bringing this up, as the only question I had was whether a safari shirt is mandatory for proper Land Rover etiquette, or simply advisory if you want to be taken seriously when you walk into the dealership?
Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. It’s okay people on here to slag them off but until you’ve driven/owned one you’ll never know what a lovey car they are to drive. I can get out of mine after a 4 hour trip or more and feel like I’ve just popped to the shops. Love it!
Yeah people have to plan before they buy and make sure it's like a quarter of there paycheck otherwise it will be a terrible financial decision and reliability won't be such an issue for money
Probably the best RR reviews I’ve seen on TH-cam. A few points to mention though: 1. 20” wheels WILL transform the ride. I bought mine on 21’s and temporarily fitted 20’s and have never gone back. 2. Most (not all) of the “road biased” tyres that LR fit are surprisingly capable in mud and snow. 3. 78,500 miles, in 2 1/3rd years, with a new SDV8, have proven it to be very reliable. Only one fault of any consequence so far. 4. Love the “that’ll do pig” reference at the end!
They are absolutely brilliant cars. Nothing is perfect, but they have achieved a near perfect balance. What does the pig reference mean? I know he is being funny (love his videos) I am just a bit dim and dont know the meaning. Thanks.
@@eastbaystreet1242 It’s a quote from the end of a funny film: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_(film) PS: Rangie still going strong at 5 years and 137,161 miles 👍
@@Jon-zj2nj Thanks, Jon. Now I understand what a charming close that was to his video. PS: I have been buying RR new and just off 3 year leases since 1993 and I have never had one in the shop for anything other than scheduled service. Maybe I am just lucky. But I suspect it has more to do with good care for my cars (so I share your good experience).
I have owned o 2001 P38 a 4.6 v8 vogue se petrol for 6 years and it’s been a pleasure to own. I still love driving it every time I sit behind the wheel.
@@jeff1595 as far as an "old" range rover, a 2001 P38 is very reliable. The P38 got a lot of upgrades due to the overtake of LR trough BMW in 1999. I owned two P38's, one 4.0 from 2000 and a 4.6 from 2001. Tough vehicles and so comfortable. Due to common problems with the air suspension, i installed in both of them an emergency air override, that helps a lot! The wide range of stock BMW-partss makes them relatively "cheap" to maintain. I own a 2003 L322 and i am still surprised that many parts are just out of a random 3 series BMW... (as well for my 2007 one)...but remeber, these cars were never meant to be cheap, and of course they are not comparable to a toyota yaris or a fiat punto... but you will just fall in love...
Even my mum's Citroen C3: dropped a rim sizes, she's noticed the car rattles less and the overall package of wheels + tyres was cheaper than tyres alone with the old wheels. Complete no brainer.
Think the RR Sport is a better comparison with the Q7. Swapped my Q8 for a sport and the RR is a better ride. Also worth noting that if we’re talking about reliability, Audi is right down there with JLR. Also, it isn’t about prestige v off roadability. These things are great long-distance cruises and will pull a heavy trailer as well as hitting the forest tracks. There is one comment that is spot-on. There are other cars that are better at some things but nothing does as many things as well as a RR/RRS. Really enjoyed the vid and the no-nonsense comments.
All of your downsides that you speak of are only because of where you live. In Australia it works fine. I currently own Every series Range Rover that's been made from the classic to my new Black edition I picked up 2 weeks ago. They are all amazing pieces of art and engineering.
I live in Canada and all the rovers are perfect. The roads are big and wide so you really don’t even feel that big on the road and when it snows (which there is a lot of) it just cruises over everything
Hi, If you don’t mind me asking, how’s the reliability been your range rovers? I’ve always appreciated these beauties but have always been told that they are the most unreliable vehicles one can buy, just want to know to what extent is all that true.
Comparing a Range Rover to an s class is like comparing apples to sausages. I’ve owned several Range Rovers and would never consider any Mercedes over them.
I own the Autobiography & I don’t get any issues with ride or handling because the suspension set up is different & I’m on 22”s to. Try one & you’ll see what I mean. You are right about the SDV8 Engine though, it’s amazing !
If you want to get the best out of a Range Rover then pull a horsebox or a boat for tens of thousands of miles and then you'll discover its true value. My L322 tdv8 is just the most brilliant place to be. It has done 115,000 miles with about 75,000 of those being done pulling various horses up and down the country.
Alan Mac did you had any problems? Also own a 08 L322 tdv8 and it's glorious , i achieve regulately 28 mpg which for a V8 is mega. Also i bought the car for my own family safety,as all know l322 is a battleship weighing almost 3t with full tank and people inside.
@@stevenjr6582 It's heavy on brake discs and pads but then I do tow a lot.so not a surprise. I also probably over-maintain it but it's a big, complex car so, to me, that makes sense. Apart from consumables (which are many and expensive with fluids, filters and gaskets) I had to replace a rear wiper motor, an air suspension sensor and a gearbox seal - which happened pretty much on 100,000 when I had planned to get the gearbox serviced - so really nothing worth commenting on. I have a friend who has a petrol Land Cruiser he uses to pull his small dingy and not only is the RR vastly superior to drive but his V8 petrol can't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Now that my daughter has gone to Uni I no longer need a tow car but if I sold it I'd get less than £14K for it. So I'll keep it until it needs scrapped - it is just such a lovely vehicle.
You get a lot less with a range rover. Less passenger space, less ride quality, less noise insulation, less technology, less quality, less reliability and a lower status brand. Land rover is like a toyota compared to a Mercedes.
If no one is oncoming on a narrow country road with completely destroyed verges then do you stay entirely in "your lane" the whole time? More fool you if you do, no point in wrecking the side of your car for no reason. Just slow down and move over when necessary, otherwise no need to drive in all the mud/potholes that litter the edge of our roads at this time of year.
@@justjosh11 thanks for the driving lesson! If you need to drive a vehicle in the middle of the road like a battleship then it's probably not fit for purpose!
In my opinion...RR is the best looking suv on the market. Better exterior than bmw...benz...jaguar...audi...Aston...lambo. To me it simply is art. Gorgeous. Timeless. Proper lines and curves. And sexy. I hope they won't change the exterior anytime soon. As far as their electronic reliability goes, that's a diff tale. I can only have one vehicle, and have always wanted a RR. But i end up going with german high end super sedans... currently have f90 m5 competition. One of these years ill just get a RR...i need it.
"if I had the money" I'd buy one in a hot second, if I had even more money I'd buy a pre-owned one. Great review AND good to see it caked in road grime... another fantastic video thank you.
The Range Rover is all the car you could ever need, we’ve had one for the past 5 years and it’s fantastic and has served us well, it does love a pair of front tyres though 😟
Great review , pretty much as you say, its a masterclass in control calibration. A 4x4 ripe for EV power, will lower the C of G so suspension calibration refined and roll reduced, space utilisation gets 7 seats, economy transformed, civilised progress torque and thrust all scaled up. So then you end up with no real argument it being a monster other than its size........Big, Medium, Small follows.
I find that a lot of RR owners are reluctant to go anywhere near the verge on narrow roads. Usually ends up with me putting the two wheels of my small 2wd car on the verge on my side and negotiating past them
As a new Range Rover owner (picked up an old sport) I now know why this is… believe it or not hitting a verge is how you roll these things! It even warns you in the manual against it. That being said it is easy to place and I personally try not to take up the whole road with it
I've never loved the new l405 range rovers as much as the l322, or as most people would know them as, the mk3 or 2001-2012 model. My dad has a relatively high mileage 2006 facelift model 4.2 litre supercharged example in which you got various upgrades, such as the newer 6 speed ZF gearbox, the 4.4 litre petrol model was swapped from BMW's engine to the much better jaguar alternative, and the general quality of the cars shot up compared to the earlier BMW built cars. This supercharged model has been one of the best cars my family has owned, also the most expensive costing a cool £6,300, but despite the car being relatively cheap for a 4.2 supercharged with almost all the available options and an LPG system fitted, it has been reliable with only the reversing camera and the driver's seat heater failing, the camera was £100, and the heated seat wasn't used anyway, and the cooling function still works to my knowledge. Overall, the car has been very reliable compared to some of the older ones we've had, and the car as worn incredible well for a 14 year old car that has done 140,000 miles, driving better than the low mileage, top spec P38 (mk2 or 1995-2001) Vogue that we had before, admittedly being a chipped 2.5 as opposed to the 4.0 litre, 4.6 or 5.0 litre v8 as was available.
The Company I work for wont buy Range Rovers any more because they break down so often. Mine broke down at Fleet services on the M3 Not only did it cost to get it recovered and repaired, I got a fine for staying more than 2 hours in the services..........
These service station time limits need challenging. Service areas are an essential part of the road network. They even issue fines when at night when the car park is nearly empty. Last year I stopped in one, intending to make it a short break, then realised I was quite tired and as the advice says 'don't drive tired' I had a nap. It was dark, I didn't see the signs. Like the rest of the fascistic legal system in the UK, summary justice applies. You can appeal but we will penalise you for doing so, and the appeals process is stitched up anyway so it's a waste of time. I'm sure there must be an MP or two, pushing back on this sort of madness.....
James, try and get yourself on one of the Land Rover experience half day courses. It will demonstrate to you just how unbelievable these are off road and really emphasize just how much the Kensington crew just don't need one. Whilst I agree with you that they would be better buying an S-Class or A8, unfortunately the depreciation on those is criminal compared to the Range Rover.
It's really sad to see the direction Land Rover is going. I grew up in the countryside and we had and still have quite a few Land Rovers. They just do what they can do best: go Offroad if you need to get somewhere nothing else can go. Fast forward to 2020 and noone seems to drive Land Rovers offroad because of the paint, 22 inch wheels with borderline slick tyres and most importantly: who can see you drive in your Range Rover when you're alone in the woods? Noone, so there's no need whatsoever to do it. Just drive into the city and you get the attention. It's ridiculous. And it's only gotten worse after Tata bought JLR. Don't get me wrong, I still like Land Rovers, or should I say Range Rovers, since it's the only one left that looks good. The thing I don't like is the thought and company behind the brand and of course the pretentious people who buy them.
Who the hell even cares that someone drives a Range Rover? They're more common than Corsas on the road at this point and no one knows if it's the base model or top £100,000+ spec. Every chav with a bit of spare money buys one.
@@TheHBW44 have you driven either of these vehicles? Your remark sounds much more of a fan boys response than a review. In any event, the suspension settings may vary based on the range rover being substantially heavier than the S class, while riding on the same architecture of air suspensions. This is just a bit of insight.
Most cars ride too firmly these days, I am surprised that you observe how much you can feel the road in this, I would have expected to be pretty isolated from it, with the RRSport being the one to feel more ‘connected’.
@Strange Reviews the land cruiser too is a serious drug dealer car, you can even see it in news all around the world, but fortunately toyota still makes many other different models like 70 series and patrol
@Strange Reviews An American here, so please feel free to disregard, but in the states black is a highly-rated color among those liking the elegance of maximum shine (they love to look at themselves in the mirror - like finish, especially those with huge egos that want to look "Presidential"!), while the drug dealers use much more nondescript vehicles and the drug runners go for the most disposable (drop the drugs & abandon the vehicle). While I agree with your color choices for Rovers since such a large vehicle looks overwhelming in any brighter colors, I will always favor smaller SUVs in brighter colors and specifically regret the one black vehicle I have owned as a concession to my wife's taste for black, as it was the dark color that was a factor in an accident that gave my son his TBI. Even our present burgundy vehicle is so much less visible than our silver vehicle that I drive with the running lights on most of the time and both my wife and I have agreed that we will not likely buy another dark vehicle. Silver has become my favorite as a balance of visibility, appearance, and maintenance (I too live in farm country, yet need to navigate the streets of NYC). As for dictating who gets to buy what vehicle, sounds way too much like where some in our government would like to lead US.
I have a Disco3. Takes the kids to school in the week and does off road duties at weekends, hauling hay, straw, horse muck, through ditches, mud/ruts etc. Oh yeah, pulling two kids on sledges through the snow when required. It's a brilliant car. I'd love to use the RR doing that and see how well it does :)
KangoV I’ve owned Disco 4’s and an SDV8 and they are both very good at what you’ve described. There’s nothing to match the ultimate load carrying capacity of yours though 👍 And at least the RR still has a split tailgate, rather than the D5 monstrosity!
OK, so it's not your sort of thing. My SDV8 will have to be crowbarred away from my cold dead hands. And my P38 Range Rover as well. But even I don't get the Land Rover lineup.
As far as the country goes I reckon JLR made a big mistake getting rid of the Defender. There is a big market out there for affordable, simple 4x4 with hose down interiors that not being addressed by anyone properly.
I've been put off a Range Rover, because most of the critics say it's huge. Well I have a Ford Everest that I've just measured across the mirrors and it is indeed smaller in width than the Range Rover by 1mm! Therefore it's the same size as a Ford Ranger. Get over how huge it is, because it isn't. Length and weight isn't a worry, or height.
I couldn’t imagine owning / using something so big and boxey that doesn’t have a bed and a kitchen in the back ... plus I bet my sprinter doesn’t throw as many codes! 🤙🏼
gOtze1337 In comparison to other current LR products (with the exception of the very recent Defender), this car is boxy. That’s one of about 100 reasons why I replaced my last Disco 4 with one of these rather than the oddity that LR thought was supposed to replace it.
The SQ7 has an electrically assisted boost pressure which gives torque from 1000 rpm, not sure how you can say this is better. I drove one of these the other day, its 'flat' unless you really stomp on it. Suppose that's why I'm shopping for a Cayenne 4.2 TDI at this stage.
I’ve had bentayga , xc90, x5m , sq7 and I’d take the Range Rover everyday for everything > you can drive 500 miles get out do a meeting and do the same all over again > it’s seats are literally 300% more comfortable than the others and it drives so soft > yes they break a lot but until somebody builds a better car I’ll be in an autobiography until then .....
The trouble with JLR products is that they *can* be reliable, but you have to look after them a lot more carefully than other premium brands, which is where the terrible reputation comes from. Things will go wrong, and you have to get them sorted properly and quickly. Otherwise, you're in a disaster zone and you're going to bankrupt yourself.
It's a great thing that they're trying to make it more reliable but ultimately doesn't matter if they don't succeed. It's like "buy our product, it's shite but we did what we could".
The Talentless Mr. Kipling Not everyone in the world wants a Toyota Land Cruiser thanks. If it suits you, go right ahead and buy one and I won’t air my reasons for never wanting one, if you agree not hang around Range Rover reviews recycling the same tired old comments about Range Rover reliability 👍
The way I see it is, there is nothing out there like a Range Rover. Volvo XC90 and Audi may ride better and maybe are better quality and so on, but they are no way near as practical or good offroad as a Range Rover. It's not only JLR products that have been turned in to luxury vehicles so have Volvo, Audi and a lot of others, the days when the motor industries made cars for the averages family is long gone...
In the USA (key market) these actually are considered small 🤨, easily fit into parking space ☺️ and petrol is dirt cheap 🤓. Just as a Fiat 500 is perfect for Paris and Rome as it fits into the narrow streets, “it’s horses for courses” with the RR model range. Having said that my new Discovery 5 td6 is near identical up front with same instrument display, leather seats, has same engine, but I’m happy chucking logs, building rubble or kids in the back BUT it did cost whopping £70k + 🥴. Have kept my old Disco 2 for green lanes and off reading. 😜
Because: 1. It has a much broader power delivery with a huge amount of bottom end grunt. 2. It has much nicer 6 piston Brembo brakes. 3. The suspension is better, with a great deal less body roll. 4. It’s smoother. (And yes, I’ve driven both)
Steve C this kind of vehicle demands power/torque , this is only possible with a bigger engine. Aerodynamics is poor on Range Rovers so it needs power from almost idle level. The same thing cannot be said about the petrol syblings which have more pwr but at higher revs, which results in a best day 20mpg and the worst 10-12.
I often hear comments from people who suggest that “there’s no point in buying a V8, when the 6 is plenty fast enough” (read the same for “there’s no point in buying a 6, when the 4 is fast enough”. If all anyone wanted was a car capable of cruising at the 70mph limit (UK), then we’d all be happy driving ultra sensible, 1.0 litre 3 cylinder, economy hatchbacks. It’s doesn’t have to be down to speed, it can all be about power delivery 👍
I had a Toyota Land Cruiser J20 with the Turbo-Diesel V8. It was a great car and in the city and a bit overland, it wasn`t so much more bad in fuel efficiency compared to my Citroen Berlingo at this time. Unfortunately, I need to drive mostly on the Autobahn and there it was drinking Diesel like hell. So after a while, I was going back to use the Berlingo more daily and just took the J20 for the weekend family excursions. It was just twice the price to use it and for just reaching another destination it wasn`t worth to keep it. - It was really a great car. Never a single problem - but not for my use. I guess with a Range Rover you would have the same problem under the same circumstances.
Ended up buying one of these because I have 3 kids, wanted something big and safe so the choice was one of these or a Volvo XC90, needless to say the wife preferred the range rover.
I've not hated but I didnt like them for a good while. Honestly don't ask me why, maybe just because everyone was obsessed with them or at least thats what I thought. I'm car valeting at a dealership and my boss owns a 2020 Vogue and its honestly a beauty
Great review James.. you gave us both sides of the biscuit as well as the cream in the middle. Honest and to the point. It was so interesting that I nearly didn't notice your JLR Shirt (nearly) ;-) Thanks again.. keep them coming.
Jay, I'm with you, on this one. I've never known why the Range Rover is such a big deal. I'd much rather have a sorted SQ7 or MkII X5. Decent review too.
Got the 4.4 Autobiography. Can’t think of one other car I would now have after this. Had the 2.0 petrol ( 4 cyl ) F Pace before this and averaged 26 mpg. I drive this like it’s going back to dealer tomorrow and STILL get 26 mpg so if I drove it conservatively it would be well into the 30s 👍
The choppy ride, for me personally was a deal breaker when I wanted to buy one. You just don't expect those jolts from a Range Rover. So I went for a Cayenne 4.2 diesel - rides sort of the same but at least it's much more sporty and it's much smaller and maneuverable.
REMUS UMA ,Porsche is an ideal Suv much sportier than Range Rover but nowhere near with the pedigree for go anywhere ability. The transaxle joint disconnect when in off road and tough up when going on road. Range Rover is a true luxury off roader which can be driven anywhere even in 1.5ft water. Hope you enjoy your Cayenne as much as i enjoy my RR.
i'm ashamed to say that previous range rover videos didn't interest me, so i didn't watch them. but the title of this one, promising the possibility of some trash talk WRT range rovers has turned the tide and i watched it. i'm not proud of myself today. :) time passes...okay. now that i've watched it, i feel short-changed. hardly any trash talk. :(
There’s plenty of ill informed trash talk about them elsewhere on TH-cam and even in this comments section, so it shouldn’t take long to find something to confirm your prejudices.
So weird how different people rate the ride quality! Some people say it rides close to an s-class, while others say a subaru on steel springs rides better. Who is right?
It depends with the one tested. People who say the former probably drove the autobiography and people who say the later probably drove the vogue or HSE models
My problem with them is purely the image due to people that drive them. I don’t understand why people “want a Range Rover” when they’re cruising round cities in them. It’s a bit like getting dressed up in a tuxedo and sitting in McDonald’s eating a Big Mac. Round here they have levels, rich who have them new and have well paid jobs, then they get to a few years old and you’ll see them everywhere on the driveways of people in 4 bed housing estate type places where you know they’re financed to the eyeballs just so their wifey can look bawler. Then they get to second-rate drug dealer age and are ragged about by steroid inflated ego’s and driven to death on their budget Wang-Li tyres! I’
Its all about the driving position. fantastic cars i had the previous model a 2002 4.4 petrol vogue and i will probably get a new shape non diesel model sometime soon.
We don’t see many of those in Australia because they have a bad reputation in general but especially off road. I’m sure they would be ok on a green British field.
Woah, big man is from Oz, won't get one because he doesn't like British things where all we have are green fields.. Alright James from Australia, did anyone ask?
@@cinimod1077 "He doesn't like British things" is a rather defensive way of saying, "He likes reliable things," innit? Land Cruiser is the real deal, mate.
Rick C If I lived in Australia, I’d probably own a Land Cruiser too. A widespread availability of new and used parts, widely understood by bush mechanics and often fixable with a crow bar and/or a hammer, with an easy resale. No particular reason to have to put up with them in the U.K though, where the situation with parts and specialist mechanics is usually reversed.
Id rather get a sport. It looks better, its just as luxurious in the front, faster, and just as much of a statment, if you want that. I mean its as tall, as wide and a little less long but is long enough. The best Range Rover for me is definetly the Range Rover Sport SVR, reall the best suv for me. Very, luxurious, one of the fastest suvs and very cool looking.
I have a Range Rover sport and share your thoughts on the suspension. My vehicle just has the 20” wheels with plenty of sidewalls and despite that and air suspension it’s definitely choppier then it should be. Used to have a BMW X3 that I swear rode better around town. Also noticed there’s some low frequency thrumming that doesn’t seem very refined. But I also agree that the perfectly weighted steering and responsive engine really make it more engaging to drive than it needs to be. It feels more like a 3 series than a modern 3 series. Add that to the great looks and practicality and I’m in love as I can be with a family hauler. It’s kind of a guilty pleasure because I share many of your reservations about the brand
@@Jon-zj2nj Doesn't surprise me. They should engineer their way out of that. Off-roading works better with some meaty rubber. Maybe it needs a 4" lift and keep the 20s. 😏
CamberwellCarrot Indeed they do, which is why I’ve fitted 255/55R20’s in place of the standard 275/45R20’s. The 55’s work pretty well off road, but still retain the ability to track a very straight line at high speed 👍 I like the idea of fitting my L405 with a 4” lift kit, but I reckon that my 88 and 89 year old parents might struggle to get in and out and I’ll have to forget about getting in to a car park again! 😉
I want one so much, but I keep taking myself out if it. I might just bite the bullet and accept the higher running costs, I'm in Bulgaria and have a fantastic independent specialist near me, to be honest the costs here aren't crazy, you can refurbish the entire air suspension system for 1200 pounds fitted, a small service is 120, a major is 300. In terms of fuel economy the 4.4 diesel can give unbelievable figures if you drive carefully, I've been in an l405 doing 120km on a level motorway and the computer showed 52mpg with two adults in the car, my friend who's car it is said he gets 30mpg average on a tank, but that's with a lot of town driving
I’ve driven Range Rovers for years and don’t really care about image and what other people think. They are the only vehicle that can take you to the South of France or Norway and back in total comfort. Can carry a huge amount of equipment for business or leisure, can tow 3.5 tons, pull up tree stumps and get me through winter floods without getting stressed.
You hit the nail one the head when you said they are lovely to drive - the controls are weighted perfectly, the engine and transmission are silky smooth and because of the high driving position and large glass area manoeuvring and parking is much easier than you would expect. You simply get a better view of the world. The interior is very contemporary and tasteful - not over done old boys club like Bentley.
I find driving my Range Rover relaxing, and I always seem to arrive chilled and looking forward to the return journey. I don’t find this with other vehicles. Im lucky enough to have driven driven Ferraris and Porsches and they are awesome.....For a few days. After that, the tyre noise, harshness, discomfort and lack of practicality take their toll.
I used to spend quire a lot of time in the Middle East where for quite a few people cost is truly no object when purchasing a vehicle. One very wealthy gentlemen once said to me. “Here Ferraris and Lamborghinis are just toys for the city. For travel you need a real vehicle which will take you through the dust storms and the desert and keep you comfortable and safe. You take a Range Rover”
And finally, in over thirty years of driving Range Rovers I have never broken down...but have assisted many other travellers who have.
Dave B I have to agree, having owned a jeep in the past nothing compares to a rangerover I'm on my second one now I only wish I had started driving them earlier
Dave B I agree got a 06 v8 supercharged SE
Brilliant car love it
72k miles and still pulls like a train
In the UK, different story. I understand all of his reasoning. Middle class women drive them to waitrose and don't know how to manage such a big car
T N So whats that got to do with the vehicle itself?
@@brownfamily67 That's why he hates them
I've never understood criticizing a vehicle based on who purchases it. Shouldn't a vehicle be judged by it's attributes?
It's not just that though, this car as he says occupies this weird middle ground between practicality and luxury, it's not very good at either as it's too luxurious to be practical and too practical to be luxurious, and to me it makes not a damn lick of sense given how much it costs. If you are a country person, you have loads of space for vehicles, and you could buy a double cab 4wd ute or dedicated 4x4 for when you need to go full practical, and buy a pretty decent luxury saloon for when you want luxury for the same price as one of these giant status symbols - even have change left over depending on what you go with - and indeed I would suspect that is what most practical people do - which is why most of these things get sold to townies to take their kids to school in and show that they are keeping up with the joneses and might try to justify it by saying they have only one car park and need to drive on a country road once a decade. No matter how impressive the engineering and how clever the technology - they are pretty damn stupid from a totally rational standpoint.
In the UK its a class issue, seems to define all aspects of social life in the UK.
morgan - I agree, it's often lazy journalism.
@@kichaa13 Yes, it does seem to be that way - that's all I can think of when I see one go past "You probably only bought that because you are insecure and feel the need to let everyone know you are wealthy." If I was living in a large city I'd probably go for a Hyundai EV, not one of these retarded monstrosities.
"I've never understood criticizing a vehicle based on who purchases it. Shouldn't a vehicle be judged by it's attributes?"
Thing is, we've had Range Rovers for 40+ years now. The people that buy it, for better or worse, will have a significant influence on its future iterations. This particular generation of Range Rover is the product of the influence of the previous generation's buyers, and most businesses will simply just follow the money and cater to what those previous buyers wanted, with slight improvements here and there.
So yeah, maybe lazy journalism...but perhaps journalists aren't the only ones slacking off.
"I've recently been driving a lot of McLarens" most casually delivered line ever
‘This car doesn’t deliver the level of comfort I expect’. Man, it’s a Range Rover and can be criticised for many things but lack of comfort surely isn’t one of them.
Title: I hate Range Rover
Me: give me that damn car
Range Rovers are perfection. Literally perfection. Hating Range Rovers is like hating puppies. You are just a terrible person at that point.
puppy's meat is tasty
Paul Thiel I agree
@@rodinjohnson8233 So is your dads.
Perfection, hahahahahahaha what a joke.
Rodin Johnson *coronavirus entered the chat*
We need a review of your shirts some time......LOL
He looks like James May's estranged cousin
"for the last few days, I've been living ..with these shirts. Most of the people who get them would be better off getting normal shirts."
Like grandma's old arm chair :-)
Tom Bell - Thanks for bringing this up, as the only question I had was whether a safari shirt is mandatory for proper Land Rover etiquette, or simply advisory if you want to be taken seriously when you walk into the dealership?
No comment from the great man I see. I think we need to petition for a Jayemm shirt review .
Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
It’s okay people on here to slag them off but until you’ve driven/owned one you’ll never know what a lovey car they are to drive. I can get out of mine after a 4 hour trip or more and feel like I’ve just popped to the shops.
Love it!
I can get out of my 760Li and feel as relaxed, ok bad example as reliability is equally poor.
this guys shirts are on another level. no one else could possibly pull them off.
And nor should anyone pull them off... him remaining fully-clothed is something we should all appreciate....
The greatest car in the world
within the warranty period.
A RR reliability quip. Oh the wit!
Own a 08 L322 tdv8 ,no problem whatsoever .
If it were so awful nobody would have bought one!
Yeah people have to plan before they buy and make sure it's like a quarter of there paycheck otherwise it will be a terrible financial decision and reliability won't be such an issue for money
Probably the best RR reviews I’ve seen on TH-cam. A few points to mention though:
1. 20” wheels WILL transform the ride. I bought mine on 21’s and temporarily fitted 20’s and have never gone back.
2. Most (not all) of the “road biased” tyres that LR fit are surprisingly capable in mud and snow.
3. 78,500 miles, in 2 1/3rd years, with a new SDV8, have proven it to be very reliable. Only one fault of any consequence so far.
4. Love the “that’ll do pig” reference at the end!
They are absolutely brilliant cars. Nothing is perfect, but they have achieved a near perfect balance. What does the pig reference mean? I know he is being funny (love his videos) I am just a bit dim and dont know the meaning. Thanks.
@@eastbaystreet1242
It’s a quote from the end of a funny film:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_(film)
PS: Rangie still going strong at 5 years and 137,161 miles 👍
@@Jon-zj2nj Thanks, Jon. Now I understand what a charming close that was to his video. PS: I have been buying RR new and just off 3 year leases since 1993 and I have never had one in the shop for anything other than scheduled service. Maybe I am just lucky. But I suspect it has more to do with good care for my cars (so I share your good experience).
I have owned o 2001 P38 a 4.6 v8 vogue se petrol for 6 years and it’s been a pleasure to own. I still love driving it every time I sit behind the wheel.
Is a 2001 reliable?
@@jeff1595 as far as an "old" range rover, a 2001 P38 is very reliable. The P38 got a lot of upgrades due to the overtake of LR trough BMW in 1999. I owned two P38's, one 4.0 from 2000 and a 4.6 from 2001. Tough vehicles and so comfortable. Due to common problems with the air suspension, i installed in both of them an emergency air override, that helps a lot! The wide range of stock BMW-partss makes them relatively "cheap" to maintain. I own a 2003 L322 and i am still surprised that many parts are just out of a random 3 series BMW... (as well for my 2007 one)...but remeber, these cars were never meant to be cheap, and of course they are not comparable to a toyota yaris or a fiat punto... but you will just fall in love...
@@philippangst ok
Low profile tyres - the bane of nearly all top end motors - drop a rim size and up the tyre profile changes a lot.
Even my mum's Citroen C3: dropped a rim sizes, she's noticed the car rattles less and the overall package of wheels + tyres was cheaper than tyres alone with the old wheels. Complete no brainer.
Think the RR Sport is a better comparison with the Q7. Swapped my Q8 for a sport and the RR is a better ride. Also worth noting that if we’re talking about reliability, Audi is right down there with JLR. Also, it isn’t about prestige v off roadability. These things are great long-distance cruises and will pull a heavy trailer as well as hitting the forest tracks. There is one comment that is spot-on. There are other cars that are better at some things but nothing does as many things as well as a RR/RRS. Really enjoyed the vid and the no-nonsense comments.
All of your downsides that you speak of are only because of where you live.
In Australia it works fine.
I currently own Every series Range Rover that's been made from the classic to my new Black edition I picked up 2 weeks ago.
They are all amazing pieces of art and engineering.
Totally agree. We are on our fourth - a Sport. Freakin awesome. Makes every trip an event.
I live in Canada and all the rovers are perfect. The roads are big and wide so you really don’t even feel that big on the road and when it snows (which there is a lot of) it just cruises over everything
Hi, If you don’t mind me asking, how’s the reliability been your range rovers? I’ve always appreciated these beauties but have always been told that they are the most unreliable vehicles one can buy, just want to know to what extent is all that true.
@@insayn7995I'll jump in, 95000kms in an SDV6 Sport and haven't had a single issue
No one really needs a McLaren or Ferrari but some people buy them because they love them ... Same as the Range Rover.
Comparing a Range Rover to an s class is like comparing apples to sausages. I’ve owned several Range Rovers and would never consider any Mercedes over them.
I own the Autobiography & I don’t get any issues with ride or handling because the suspension set up is different & I’m on 22”s to. Try one & you’ll see what I mean. You are right about the SDV8 Engine though, it’s amazing !
Fair review, I am on my third one, sheer perfection. As you said, ‘you are not the target audience’ - exactly...........
If you want to get the best out of a Range Rover then pull a horsebox or a boat for tens of thousands of miles and then you'll discover its true value. My L322 tdv8 is just the most brilliant place to be. It has done 115,000 miles with about 75,000 of those being done pulling various horses up and down the country.
Alan Mac did you had any problems?
Also own a 08 L322 tdv8 and it's glorious , i achieve regulately 28 mpg which for a V8 is mega.
Also i bought the car for my own family safety,as all know l322 is a battleship weighing almost 3t with full tank and people inside.
@@stevenjr6582 It's heavy on brake discs and pads but then I do tow a lot.so not a surprise. I also probably over-maintain it but it's a big, complex car so, to me, that makes sense. Apart from consumables (which are many and expensive with fluids, filters and gaskets) I had to replace a rear wiper motor, an air suspension sensor and a gearbox seal - which happened pretty much on 100,000 when I had planned to get the gearbox serviced - so really nothing worth commenting on.
I have a friend who has a petrol Land Cruiser he uses to pull his small dingy and not only is the RR vastly superior to drive but his V8 petrol can't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Now that my daughter has gone to Uni I no longer need a tow car but if I sold it I'd get less than £14K for it. So I'll keep it until it needs scrapped - it is just such a lovely vehicle.
id rather have a range over an s class. an sclass is just a large sedan. you get alot more with a range
You get a lot less with a range rover. Less passenger space, less ride quality, less noise insulation, less technology, less quality, less reliability and a lower status brand. Land rover is like a toyota compared to a Mercedes.
@@jandersen6802 all your points are absolute nonsense 😂😂🤣
Hilariously, you were barely in your lane the entire time!
If no one is oncoming on a narrow country road with completely destroyed verges then do you stay entirely in "your lane" the whole time?
More fool you if you do, no point in wrecking the side of your car for no reason. Just slow down and move over when necessary, otherwise no need to drive in all the mud/potholes that litter the edge of our roads at this time of year.
Oh the irony...
@@justjosh11 thanks for the driving lesson! If you need to drive a vehicle in the middle of the road like a battleship then it's probably not fit for purpose!
Awful roads in UK
That’s what I was thinking!... However he had a low side camera on the curb side which may have been why he was driving SO far out...?
In my opinion...RR is the best looking suv on the market. Better exterior than bmw...benz...jaguar...audi...Aston...lambo. To me it simply is art. Gorgeous. Timeless. Proper lines and curves. And sexy. I hope they won't change the exterior anytime soon. As far as their electronic reliability goes, that's a diff tale.
I can only have one vehicle, and have always wanted a RR. But i end up going with german high end super sedans... currently have f90 m5 competition. One of these years ill just get a RR...i need it.
"if I had the money" I'd buy one in a hot second, if I had even more money I'd buy a pre-owned one. Great review AND good to see it caked in road grime... another fantastic video thank you.
Thanks dan!
The Range Rover is all the car you could ever need, we’ve had one for the past 5 years and it’s fantastic and has served us well, it does love a pair of front tyres though 😟
How’s the reliability been?
@@insayn7995 completely reliable
More riff-raff exclaim the virtues of a foul, stinking monstrosity!
@@Josh-er6oz did you change alot of suspension components?
@@Elijah-cy9do nope
Great review , pretty much as you say, its a masterclass in control calibration. A 4x4 ripe for EV power, will lower the C of G so suspension calibration refined and roll reduced, space utilisation gets 7 seats, economy transformed, civilised progress torque and thrust all scaled up. So then you end up with no real argument it being a monster other than its size........Big, Medium, Small follows.
I find that a lot of RR owners are reluctant to go anywhere near the verge on narrow roads. Usually ends up with me putting the two wheels of my small 2wd car on the verge on my side and negotiating past them
As a new Range Rover owner (picked up an old sport) I now know why this is… believe it or not hitting a verge is how you roll these things! It even warns you in the manual against it. That being said it is easy to place and I personally try not to take up the whole road with it
I've never loved the new l405 range rovers as much as the l322, or as most people would know them as, the mk3 or 2001-2012 model. My dad has a relatively high mileage 2006 facelift model 4.2 litre supercharged example in which you got various upgrades, such as the newer 6 speed ZF gearbox, the 4.4 litre petrol model was swapped from BMW's engine to the much better jaguar alternative, and the general quality of the cars shot up compared to the earlier BMW built cars. This supercharged model has been one of the best cars my family has owned, also the most expensive costing a cool £6,300, but despite the car being relatively cheap for a 4.2 supercharged with almost all the available options and an LPG system fitted, it has been reliable with only the reversing camera and the driver's seat heater failing, the camera was £100, and the heated seat wasn't used anyway, and the cooling function still works to my knowledge. Overall, the car has been very reliable compared to some of the older ones we've had, and the car as worn incredible well for a 14 year old car that has done 140,000 miles, driving better than the low mileage, top spec P38 (mk2 or 1995-2001) Vogue that we had before, admittedly being a chipped 2.5 as opposed to the 4.0 litre, 4.6 or 5.0 litre v8 as was available.
I bought one! 2015 SDV8 Vogue SE and the engine / gearbox is so well suited.
Would love to even drive one, let alone own one!
The Company I work for wont buy Range Rovers any more because they break down so often.
Mine broke down at Fleet services on the M3
Not only did it cost to get it recovered and repaired, I got a fine for staying more than 2 hours in the services..........
These service station time limits need challenging. Service areas are an essential part of the road network. They even issue fines when at night when the car park is nearly empty. Last year I stopped in one, intending to make it a short break, then realised I was quite tired and as the advice says 'don't drive tired' I had a nap. It was dark, I didn't see the signs. Like the rest of the fascistic legal system in the UK, summary justice applies. You can appeal but we will penalise you for doing so, and the appeals process is stitched up anyway so it's a waste of time. I'm sure there must be an MP or two, pushing back on this sort of madness.....
James, try and get yourself on one of the Land Rover experience half day courses. It will demonstrate to you just how unbelievable these are off road and really emphasize just how much the Kensington crew just don't need one. Whilst I agree with you that they would be better buying an S-Class or A8, unfortunately the depreciation on those is criminal compared to the Range Rover.
It's really sad to see the direction Land Rover is going.
I grew up in the countryside and we had and still have quite a few Land Rovers.
They just do what they can do best: go Offroad if you need to get somewhere nothing else can go.
Fast forward to 2020 and noone seems to drive Land Rovers offroad because of the paint, 22 inch wheels with borderline slick tyres and most importantly: who can see you drive in your Range Rover when you're alone in the woods? Noone, so there's no need whatsoever to do it. Just drive into the city and you get the attention.
It's ridiculous. And it's only gotten worse after Tata bought JLR.
Don't get me wrong, I still like Land Rovers, or should I say Range Rovers, since it's the only one left that looks good. The thing I don't like is the thought and company behind the brand and of course the pretentious people who buy them.
The 2020 Defender is now the workman's Land Rover, not the Range Rover.
@@mattevans4377 2020 defender looks like a 3D printed toy car
@@mattevans4377 But they need a farmer spec version.
@@specialboye4910 OP doesn't care about the looks, he cares about getting a specific job done.
Who the hell even cares that someone drives a Range Rover? They're more common than Corsas on the road at this point and no one knows if it's the base model or top £100,000+ spec. Every chav with a bit of spare money buys one.
Your shirt game is on point mate!
The suspension is rough... 🤯 How?! Do you have the air suspension??? I literally hit everything I can and the ride is uncompromised
@@vincentbittel4860 🙄
@@killerjhul so no answer?
@@gaara4667 we are discussing a new Range Rover, as per the video. I'm not sure what your question hints or implies.
When it goes over speed bumps it’s noticeable compared to say an S class
@@TheHBW44 have you driven either of these vehicles?
Your remark sounds much more of a fan boys response than a review. In any event, the suspension settings may vary based on the range rover being substantially heavier than the S class, while riding on the same architecture of air suspensions.
This is just a bit of insight.
Most cars ride too firmly these days, I am surprised that you observe how much you can feel the road in this, I would have expected to be pretty isolated from it, with the RRSport being the one to feel more ‘connected’.
I still like the current RR, it’s a great looking thing. It’s also expensive and highly unreliable. But they do have a fantastic interior.
It is very unfortunate to see this off road monster turned into an ego-mobile
@Strange Reviews the land cruiser too is a serious drug dealer car, you can even see it in news all around the world, but fortunately toyota still makes many other different models like 70 series and patrol
@Strange Reviews Absolutely spot on!!
Kausar De everything premium has
@Strange Reviews maybe you're the one with bad taste, old man
@Strange Reviews An American here, so please feel free to disregard, but in the states black is a highly-rated color among those liking the elegance of maximum shine (they love to look at themselves in the mirror - like finish, especially those with huge egos that want to look "Presidential"!), while the drug dealers use much more nondescript vehicles and the drug runners go for the most disposable (drop the drugs & abandon the vehicle).
While I agree with your color choices for Rovers since such a large vehicle looks overwhelming in any brighter colors, I will always favor smaller SUVs in brighter colors and specifically regret the one black vehicle I have owned as a concession to my wife's taste for black, as it was the dark color that was a factor in an accident that gave my son his TBI. Even our present burgundy vehicle is so much less visible than our silver vehicle that I drive with the running lights on most of the time and both my wife and I have agreed that we will not likely buy another dark vehicle. Silver has become my favorite as a balance of visibility, appearance, and maintenance (I too live in farm country, yet need to navigate the streets of NYC).
As for dictating who gets to buy what vehicle, sounds way too much like where some in our government would like to lead US.
Absolutely love Land Rover /Range Rover . I just wish they would make them less complicated and a lot more reliable.
They are a perfect town car. You are sat up high so you can see all around you and others can see you !!
Probably still the ‘best’ family car you can buy.
My god my eyes!!!! I thought curious droid had cornered the market in outlandish shirts.
I have a Disco3. Takes the kids to school in the week and does off road duties at weekends, hauling hay, straw, horse muck, through ditches, mud/ruts etc. Oh yeah, pulling two kids on sledges through the snow when required. It's a brilliant car. I'd love to use the RR doing that and see how well it does :)
KangoV
I’ve owned Disco 4’s and an SDV8 and they are both very good at what you’ve described. There’s nothing to match the ultimate load carrying capacity of yours though 👍 And at least the RR still has a split tailgate, rather than the D5 monstrosity!
Top stuff. Most informative and useful car channel on TH-cam.
I worked at one of the UK's largest car auctions at blackbush and these were like one of the most sold cars even though they're expensive.
OK, so it's not your sort of thing. My SDV8 will have to be crowbarred away from my cold dead hands. And my P38 Range Rover as well. But even I don't get the Land Rover lineup.
As far as the country goes I reckon JLR made a big mistake getting rid of the Defender. There is a big market out there for affordable, simple 4x4 with hose down interiors that not being addressed by anyone properly.
Very professional video you should be on top gear as a guest presenter
I've been put off a Range Rover, because most of the critics say it's huge. Well I have a Ford Everest that I've just measured across the mirrors and it is indeed smaller in width than the Range Rover by 1mm!
Therefore it's the same size as a Ford Ranger. Get over how huge it is, because it isn't.
Length and weight isn't a worry, or height.
I couldn’t imagine owning / using something so big and boxey that doesn’t have a bed and a kitchen in the back ... plus I bet my sprinter doesn’t throw as many codes! 🤙🏼
i liked the previous design of the Range Rover more, i like "boxy" suvs, 4x4/SUV`s shouldnt look streamlined, just my opnion :)
gOtze1337
In comparison to other current LR products (with the exception of the very recent Defender), this car is boxy. That’s one of about 100 reasons why I replaced my last Disco 4 with one of these rather than the oddity that LR thought was supposed to replace it.
The shape is made for having off road ability ,newer ones are more rounded than l322 p38 etc.
The SQ7 has an electrically assisted boost pressure which gives torque from 1000 rpm, not sure how you can say this is better. I drove one of these the other day, its 'flat' unless you really stomp on it. Suppose that's why I'm shopping for a Cayenne 4.2 TDI at this stage.
I’ve had bentayga , xc90, x5m , sq7 and I’d take the Range Rover everyday for everything > you can drive 500 miles get out do a meeting and do the same all over again > it’s seats are literally 300% more comfortable than the others and it drives so soft > yes they break a lot but until somebody builds a better car I’ll be in an autobiography until then .....
It's your prejudice Jay, they're fantastic vehicles if you can afford one & run one.
The trouble with JLR products is that they *can* be reliable, but you have to look after them a lot more carefully than other premium brands, which is where the terrible reputation comes from. Things will go wrong, and you have to get them sorted properly and quickly. Otherwise, you're in a disaster zone and you're going to bankrupt yourself.
Downsizing can work but you sacrifice a large amount of midrange torque compared to a diesel. Midrange torque is more important in a daily driver
It's a great thing that they're trying to make it more reliable but ultimately doesn't matter if they don't succeed. It's like "buy our product, it's shite but we did what we could".
The Talentless Mr. Kipling
Not everyone in the world wants a Toyota Land Cruiser thanks.
If it suits you, go right ahead and buy one and I won’t air my reasons for never wanting one, if you agree not hang around Range Rover reviews recycling the same tired old comments about Range Rover reliability 👍
Frank Richard it's your opinion and it doesen't matter.
The way I see it is, there is nothing out there like a Range Rover. Volvo XC90 and Audi may ride better and maybe are better quality and so on, but they are no way near as practical or good offroad as a Range Rover. It's not only JLR products that have been turned in to luxury vehicles so have Volvo, Audi and a lot of others, the days when the motor industries made cars for the averages family is long gone...
It'll be the lower profile tyres/big wheels. Try it on a higher profile tyre and smaller wheel.
There are many legitimate reasons to hate range rovers... but like you said those looks are stunning. Great review!
Loving your style...nice review. You finished off perfectly.
In the USA (key market) these actually are considered small 🤨, easily fit into parking space ☺️ and petrol is dirt cheap 🤓. Just as a Fiat 500 is perfect for Paris and Rome as it fits into the narrow streets, “it’s horses for courses” with the RR model range. Having said that my new Discovery 5 td6 is near identical up front with same instrument display, leather seats, has same engine, but I’m happy chucking logs, building rubble or kids in the back BUT it did cost whopping £70k + 🥴. Have kept my old Disco 2 for green lanes and off reading. 😜
No SDV8 in the D5 in the UK 🙁
I have a gen 3 shogun lwb and love it. Its big stupid and drinks diesel but its feels utilitarian
Had issues with Mclaren... JLR say “hold my beer”
Don't see point of the V8 over the TD6 in practical terms on the road
Drive them back to back and you will see 11 points.
Because:
1. It has a much broader power delivery with a huge amount of bottom end grunt.
2. It has much nicer 6 piston Brembo brakes.
3. The suspension is better, with a great deal less body roll.
4. It’s smoother.
(And yes, I’ve driven both)
Steve C this kind of vehicle demands power/torque , this is only possible with a bigger engine.
Aerodynamics is poor on Range Rovers so it needs power from almost idle level.
The same thing cannot be said about the petrol syblings which have more pwr but at higher revs, which results in a best day 20mpg and the worst 10-12.
I often hear comments from people who suggest that “there’s no point in buying a V8, when the 6 is plenty fast enough” (read the same for “there’s no point in buying a 6, when the 4 is fast enough”.
If all anyone wanted was a car capable of cruising at the 70mph limit (UK), then we’d all be happy driving ultra sensible, 1.0 litre 3 cylinder, economy hatchbacks.
It’s doesn’t have to be down to speed, it can all be about power delivery 👍
At 4:10 you were passed by an amazing car!
A brilliant review as usual.👍You have a way with words Sir. South Africa.
That's very impressive mpg, better than the mpg I get from my 18 Leon FR St 2L tsi. I've averaged 26mpg over the last 15k miles.
I had a Toyota Land Cruiser J20 with the Turbo-Diesel V8. It was a great car and in the city and a bit overland, it wasn`t so much more bad in fuel efficiency compared to my Citroen Berlingo at this time. Unfortunately, I need to drive mostly on the Autobahn and there it was drinking Diesel like hell. So after a while, I was going back to use the Berlingo more daily and just took the J20 for the weekend family excursions. It was just twice the price to use it and for just reaching another destination it wasn`t worth to keep it. - It was really a great car. Never a single problem - but not for my use. I guess with a Range Rover you would have the same problem under the same circumstances.
best intro to a video.
Ended up buying one of these because I have 3 kids, wanted something big and safe so the choice was one of these or a Volvo XC90, needless to say the wife preferred the range rover.
I've not hated but I didnt like them for a good while. Honestly don't ask me why, maybe just because everyone was obsessed with them or at least thats what I thought.
I'm car valeting at a dealership and my boss owns a 2020 Vogue and its honestly a beauty
Well said about so much of the Rover. Though the Land Cruiser is better on road, and a bit less, well in your face.
Great review James.. you gave us both sides of the biscuit as well as the cream in the middle. Honest and to the point. It was so interesting that I nearly didn't notice your JLR Shirt (nearly) ;-) Thanks again.. keep them coming.
Why do car reviewers all speak like Jeremy Clarkson? That cadence, it's weird. Is it deliberate?
Jay, I'm with you, on this one. I've never known why the Range Rover is such a big deal. I'd much rather have a sorted SQ7 or MkII X5. Decent review too.
Got the 4.4 Autobiography. Can’t think of one other car I would now have after this. Had the 2.0 petrol ( 4 cyl ) F Pace before this and averaged 26 mpg. I drive this like it’s going back to dealer tomorrow and STILL get 26 mpg so if I drove it conservatively it would be well into the 30s 👍
Only one big ‘basically’ and a sneaky little one.
Maybe you are changing your approach....I love the ‘on a basic level’ version!!
Range Rovers are perfection.))))
Creeping towards 100k subs hehe
Great and balanced review for a car you didn't hold hopes for. 👍🏻 again
The car can be as nice as it wants. It's still a massive compensation tool, and I don't want to associate with those sorts of people.
The choppy ride, for me personally was a deal breaker when I wanted to buy one. You just don't expect those jolts from a Range Rover. So I went for a Cayenne 4.2 diesel - rides sort of the same but at least it's much more sporty and it's much smaller and maneuverable.
REMUS UMA ,Porsche is an ideal Suv much sportier than Range Rover but nowhere near with the pedigree for go anywhere ability.
The transaxle joint disconnect when in off road and tough up when going on road.
Range Rover is a true luxury off roader which can be driven anywhere even in 1.5ft water.
Hope you enjoy your Cayenne as much as i enjoy my RR.
It should be on the 20" wheels
Super video I was thinking about getting the supercharger but might buy this 4.4 now. Good performance and decent fuel returns...
i'm ashamed to say that previous range rover videos didn't interest me, so i didn't watch them. but the title of this one, promising the possibility of some trash talk WRT range rovers has turned the tide and i watched it. i'm not proud of myself today. :)
time passes...okay. now that i've watched it, i feel short-changed. hardly any trash talk. :(
There’s plenty of ill informed trash talk about them elsewhere on TH-cam and even in this comments section, so it shouldn’t take long to find something to confirm your prejudices.
So weird how different people rate the ride quality! Some people say it rides close to an s-class, while others say a subaru on steel springs rides better. Who is right?
It depends with the one tested. People who say the former probably drove the autobiography and people who say the later probably drove the vogue or HSE models
@@kafulamulenga753 What do you mean? They both come as standard with the same air suspension.
Best reviewer in English!
Looking like a extra from Narcos with that shirt, it's louder than the SDV8 exhaust
My problem with them is purely the image due to people that drive them. I don’t understand why people “want a Range Rover” when they’re cruising round cities in them. It’s a bit like getting dressed up in a tuxedo and sitting in McDonald’s eating a Big Mac.
Round here they have levels, rich who have them new and have well paid jobs, then they get to a few years old and you’ll see them everywhere on the driveways of people in 4 bed housing estate type places where you know they’re financed to the eyeballs just so their wifey can look bawler. Then they get to second-rate drug dealer age and are ragged about by steroid inflated ego’s and driven to death on their budget Wang-Li tyres!
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Cynical - but true.
LOL amazing and true.
Had one,never again,the breakdown company knew me by my first name.
I just watch these videos for your shirts man 🤣🤣🤣
All in all still a great car...of course a few comprises heck yeah it will do it will do
Its all about the driving position. fantastic cars i had the previous model a 2002 4.4 petrol vogue and i will probably get a new shape non diesel model sometime soon.
Informative video and helpful. Thanks for sharing.👍
We don’t see many of those in Australia because they have a bad reputation in general but especially off road. I’m sure they would be ok on a green British field.
Woah, big man is from Oz, won't get one because he doesn't like British things where all we have are green fields.. Alright James from Australia, did anyone ask?
@@cinimod1077 "He doesn't like British things" is a rather defensive way of saying, "He likes reliable things," innit? Land Cruiser is the real deal, mate.
Rick C
If I lived in Australia, I’d probably own a Land Cruiser too. A widespread availability of new and used parts, widely understood by bush mechanics and often fixable with a crow bar and/or a hammer, with an easy resale.
No particular reason to have to put up with them in the U.K though, where the situation with parts and specialist mechanics is usually reversed.
Id rather get a sport. It looks better, its just as luxurious in the front, faster, and just as much of a statment, if you want that. I mean its as tall, as wide and a little less long but is long enough. The best Range Rover for me is definetly the Range Rover Sport SVR, reall the best suv for me. Very, luxurious, one of the fastest suvs and very cool looking.
I have a Range Rover sport and share your thoughts on the suspension. My vehicle just has the 20” wheels with plenty of sidewalls and despite that and air suspension it’s definitely choppier then it should be. Used to have a BMW X3 that I swear rode better around town. Also noticed there’s some low frequency thrumming that doesn’t seem very refined.
But I also agree that the perfectly weighted steering and responsive engine really make it more engaging to drive than it needs to be. It feels more like a 3 series than a modern 3 series. Add that to the great looks and practicality and I’m in love as I can be with a family hauler. It’s kind of a guilty pleasure because I share many of your reservations about the brand
Something like 18s would probably improve the ride a bit and be better off road. Plus, I likes me a bit of sidewall.
CamberwellCarrot
20” rims are the smallest wheels that will fit over the 6 pot callipers on the SDV8.
@@Jon-zj2nj Doesn't surprise me. They should engineer their way out of that. Off-roading works better with some meaty rubber. Maybe it needs a 4" lift and keep the 20s. 😏
CamberwellCarrot
Indeed they do, which is why I’ve fitted 255/55R20’s in place of the standard 275/45R20’s. The 55’s work pretty well off road, but still retain the ability to track a very straight line at high speed 👍
I like the idea of fitting my L405 with a 4” lift kit, but I reckon that my 88 and 89 year old parents might struggle to get in and out and I’ll have to forget about getting in to a car park again! 😉
I absolutely love mine and I’ve had many many cars
I want one so much, but I keep taking myself out if it. I might just bite the bullet and accept the higher running costs, I'm in Bulgaria and have a fantastic independent specialist near me, to be honest the costs here aren't crazy, you can refurbish the entire air suspension system for 1200 pounds fitted, a small service is 120, a major is 300. In terms of fuel economy the 4.4 diesel can give unbelievable figures if you drive carefully, I've been in an l405 doing 120km on a level motorway and the computer showed 52mpg with two adults in the car, my friend who's car it is said he gets 30mpg average on a tank, but that's with a lot of town driving
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