A few decent corrections and additions have come in folks, thanks. I like the one about the time stamp shifts going from long intervals down to short intervals (from months to hours) as being like a countdown to doom getting faster and faster. Regarding the issue of seasonal change in the rockies, those of you who say I've never lived in the rockies ... not quite. When I was a kid I lived in Alberta, Canada for five years, so experienced five Canadian winters, and went to the rockies a lot. I do recall the shift to winter happening a lot quicker in Canada than in UK, but I don't recall THAT amount of snowfall occurring so quickly. Though we were out in the prairies. I didn't witness the seasonal change in the rockies directly.
Wow! Great video, Rob, as always! Thanks so much for sharing. I love how you decode things -- I actually moved where it looked like heaven, understand, not the evil realm. Secret messages are fun! ;)
Don’t forget that Kubrick was human and not every single continuity error you find is a deliberate “clue”. What sort of message is Kubrick the genius giving us with the helicopter shadow during the opening scene? Or can we just admit that there are probably many many mistakes in his films that are mistaken for deliberate, meticulous planning. Kubrick was like a painter and there are just happy little accidents
@@travman1987 At no point have I ever, in 14 yrs of making film analysis vids, claimed that every single continuity error by Kubrick (or any other film maker) is deliberate. I have even cited that helicopter shadow several times as a likely error. And at many points in my videos I point to details as "possibly" carrying intended meaning rather than confirmed. So your rebuttal there is null and void :)
I feel the same way about Rob's breakdowns of the Shining. I saw this film on Betamax numerous times in the 80s, and these analyses have helped me watch this film with fresh eyes.
@@johannypaulino2953 Funnily, I think Sesame Street would be ripe for analysis lol. I'm serious.the psychology of kids films and TV shows is fascinating.
@@collativelearning Next thing I know, you're doing analysis of Clangers or Ed Edd n Eddy (wacky sound effects in that show)... Re: I am actually considering doing a study on a segment of Disney's Fantasia.
As someone who lives in Colorado and about 45 minutes from the Stanley hotel, I can promise you that the weather and landscape can change that drastically in less than 9 days.
Out there, in the winter, when does the sun rise? Could there be some light peeking through at 6:30 am? I think it gets brighter in the mornings after the autumn time change here so the 6:30 on her watch could be in the early morning? That would explain why Danny is eating cereal and watching cartoons? I assume it’s cereal and cartoons since I haven’t watched this film in at least a couple years. So having the time jump to 4 pm would make sense then.
Ester Park is where the Stanley Hotel is which is the same hotel that Stephen King bases The Shining on it’s also the same hotel seen in the Mini Serises version of The Shining
@@jimjo8541 in Colorado seems the latest sunrise is at 5:55 so it’s easily bright enough for sunlight making it more likely it’s in the morning when jack is locked in the storeroom, plus Danny eating cereal and watching cartoons
This channel has totally opened my eyes on how to interpret film... As a fellow artist (musician), I only know of a handful who dive this deep into their respective discipline... Kudos!
It's because Rob is a true pro at what he does. Nothing is said without detail and if it's a stretch, he always points it out. There is so much "Film Analysis" out there but it's child's play in comparison to Rob, even the better ones. It drives me crazy to see these Circus Act YT Channels get millions of views for telling all those people what real fans of cinema already know. "25 Facts about 'The Shining' You Never Heard!"... #1- Its about the Moon Landing!!... Seriously, that's the type of sh*t they talk about. Blows my mind
@@mk-ultramags1107 I just found an essay by a guy claiming he has 'finally' worked out that the Grady in Ullman's story (the father of two girls, 8 and 10) is not the same Grady that Jack meets in the Gold Room toilets.....something I read on Rob's site over a decade ago! What's worse is that more than a few comments congratulate the guy on 'his' research and 'his' conclusions! It pisses me off a little, I can't lie. One thing I have no time for is plagiarism.
@@davidlean1060 I thought the "Grady" that Jack meets in the Gold Room and restroom is the former caretaker of the Overlook Hotel and father to the twins. To me this Grady is a ghost appearing to Jack, my interpretation. This same Grady tells Jack: "you've always been the caretaker." Then who is Delbert Grady the father of the twins? To me it is the Grady in the Gold Room restroom. What am I missing? Can you point me to a link with pther analysis. Thanks! Shine on! :)
Perhaps the intent with the weekday captions was to make it feel like the days were bleeding together for Jack, with nothing different happening in his environment to distinguish one day from another.
I completely agree with this idea (and after 15 months of Covid-19, I can relate to that personally). There was too much of a change in the weather, as Rob explained, for the six day titles to be immediately sequencial. It occurred to me as well after the one month later title the first few days would be less than one month apart. The days were blending into each other but as the intensity of the situation escalated, the time between the day titles were getting closer and closer. So for example, the first two days were three weeks apart, then two weeks, then one, and then three days apart, as in finally from Saturday to Monday. I also considered that the last two titles of specific times were actually from Dick Halloran's time zone in Florida as in when he received Danny's cry for help it was 4pm EST.
yes, that's what I've always thought!!! the unstable view of time. huge spans of time can happen in an instance, a few hours can feel like forever, a few moments can feel like hours
This is just a limitation of the time. The Timberline Lodge is fairly close to the summit of Mt. Hood. There's barely enough level surface in front of the building for the parking lot, let alone a hedge maze. Since the actual sets were in England it was either sacrifice the maze or the mountain for the aerial shots. CGI wouldn't have been good enough yet to fake it.
And Kubrik really compresses time when in the bathroom scene, Grady suddenly switches from polite, affable, deferential serving man to stern, domineering, intimidating bossy hard-ass. The effect is astounding.
Incontinuities like this is Kubrick's take on subliminal perception. Compared to his three earlier films, The Shining is seemingly a blunt instrument. So he took his time to puzzle the audience with irregularities of all sorts. An old chessplayer gets a kick of doing this. - Thanks for the example!
"I read somewhere that if you think you're going over the edge, the first thing you lose is your sense of time; with your eyes closed you can't tell five seconds from fifty." - Frank Murphy, BlueThunder
I've always thought the inter-titles were just there to indicate how rapidly things were going down hill. The unravelling starts very broadly, then gradually closes in... seasons, months, weeks, days, morning afternoon. I think its designed to ratchet up the tension, increasing immediacy of the danger.
I love your stuff,, Rob, but just a friendly comment from a meteorologist: The weather just east of the Rocky mountains can change very quickly, and very dramatically. To go from a fine summer day to a winter snowstorm can occur in a day. It's called a chinook.
That definitely is NOT a Chinook, a chinook is when a very cold winter suddenly gets warm do to winds over the Rockies. I definitely have seen it go from summer to winter is less than a week. This makes me question a lot more of what you say in this interpretation of this movie. If you make the mistake of making the assumption that green grass one day means ,it can’t snow the next . A very short sighted guess. But, that mistake has made me watch this 2 times , so good work. Keep up the critiques
Yeah, I wanted to comment on this as well. I've lived in the rocky mountains, and you can literally have a warm green autumn day and then be snowed it overnight in feet of snow. Especially in October and November. I've definitely experienced something similar to the snow storm in the shining.
Another piece of detail: the jazz song that plays when Jack enters the ballroom is called "Midnight, the Stars and You". In its lyrics, several lines begin with "Midnight...". Among all the light jazz songs from this era, Kubrick specifically chose the one that referenced a specific time.
An unwinding clock loses track of time. The phrase "unwinding the clock" can also refer to 'the turning back of time'. Unwinding means "To wind off; to loose or separate; to untwist; to untwine; as, to unwind thread, to unwind a ball of yarn", it also has an archaic meaning according to Webster: "to trace to the end unwinding the labryinth and bringing the hero out- Laurence Sterne". That ties quite neatly with the labyrinth/minotor themes.
One more point, I've always thought the 10 captions were to identify "acceleration" and not necessarily specific periods - but to show the compression of time. We started with vague checkpoints (Interview, Closing Day), then jumped a month, and then compressed to days, and then compressed to hours... To me this illustrates the acceleration of time and events, more than specific days/times. The dire situation was gaining speed, a sense of pending doom, urgency, etc. Months to days to hours.... The subconscious level of "time" being presented seems to me more about the emphasis on urgency, rather the irrelevant specific times presented.
You completely missed the fact that the U.S. has four time zones - Pacific, Mountian, Central, and Eastern. Hallorann is leaving Miami, which is in the Eastern time zone. When it's 8:00AM Eastern, it's 6:00AM Mountain time (Colorado). So Danny is watching cartoons at 6:30AM (not PM). Note the breakfast cereal in front of him. Jack pounds on the pantry door at around 7:00AM. Then, later that day at 4:00PM, Jack is sleeping on the dry goods when Grady knocks.
One important fact here: the day the hotel closes is October 30th, the day before Halloween, while in the "All work and no play" scene Jack declares he is obligated as caretaker until May 1, the day after Walpurgis Night AKA the Witches' Sabbath. These are probably the two most important days in the occult. I think these were chosen specifically for this by Kubrick, to symbolize the descent into horror and the supernatural...
Regarding the eggs, the book establishes that Sidewinder, Co. is close enough to make grocery shopping feasible for at least a month after they move in. In fact, Halloran advises Wendy to do so and buy fresh milk for Danny as long as it's feasible, since they only have powdered once they lose the roads.
It's also worth noting that in late October it should be pretty much dark by 6pm, and by mid-winter it's completely dark by about 5pm... The scene with the typewriter, and then where Wendy examines the snowcat apparently occurs between 6:30 and 7pm, yet it is broad daylight outside.
Something that stood out to me about the time titles was that it gave me a feeling of a crime reenactment documentary. Its just a feeling but that gives, perhaps, a feeling that we’re watching something that is already pre-determined.
I always felt that the contrast of the normal events happening in linear time (plane travel, car, snowcat) versus what is happening at the Overlook was supernatural twisting of time perception, physical things, etc. I think all these time errors were part of Kubrick's intentional design to show that reality was being manipulated. My thoughts anyhow, interesting tidbits here!
And that's without even factoring in how much a snowdrift can build up against an inner corner like that one with high winds and light, dry snow. Given a sharp enough cold snap (not too terribly improbable in the Rockies), that can very easily be a single day's product. The only real issue with that is daylight hours: even if the _4 PM_ segment really *is* just nine days after the _One Month Later_ segment, that would put it right around Thanksgiving, and the start of Daylight Savings, so the evenings should still be pretty well lit until well after 7:00. Actually, sunset should be later during that final week than it was during _Closing Day,_ if we're committed to taking it literally. I think it makes more sense to say that the Hotel is some kind of discrete space where time is both inconsistently paced *and* cyclical in nature. Once its victims enter, they get stuck reliving the same struggle on an endless repeat--unless they find a way to escape. I think that interpretation also fits really well with the subtext of American and European history, and with the theme of chronic familial violence and abuse.
Very true. Even here in NYC, we can get a couple feet of snow in one long night and snow drifts drift covering half the door. And that's just Queens NY. I can only imagine Colorado. Once again, this guys' film analysis is just so far off, and people take his work as gospel.
I’m under the impression “time” is an abstract, meaningless concept in this story. If the characters have “always” been at the hotel as mentioned by Grady, then this would mean it could Literally be any time: past, present or future. Dates are chronological-days of the week are redundant. I think this was intentionally done by Kubrick and is a masterful concept. He was a genius, unlike any other the world has known.
The orchestral stabs when the title says 4pm (black screen), or any of the time stamps in the movie.. I can imagine Stan in the recording studio listening to different jump scare sounds by an orchestral ensemble. "Ah no .. yes that one."
Fun fact: in germany many actors have their voiceactors for years and years, jack nicholson is one of them, everybody in germany could identify jack nicholsons german voice, however he got established a little bit later than the shining, the voiceactor is dubbing ullmanns voice in this movie.
In Canada we often have all four seasons in a single day. Between Octoner and february I often bring two outfits wherever I go in case the weather changes from scorching hot to snowstorm. Maybe it's like that in Colorado.
I think the haziness of when things happen and how long they’ve been there in this film actually helps it. It adds to the “going mad” quality it has and actually makes you feel like you’re starting to go a little mad along with the characters
Something I’m just noticing for the first Time is Jack’s tie when he interviews with Ullman. It’s grass green and the pattern looks quite like an overhead of a maze 🤔
That's what I thought. I said to myself "Oh, yes it can! This Brit doesn't know shit about the Colorado Rockies!" He is wasting our time with obscure theories. I'm unsubscribing now. I've had enough of this weak analyzing and ignorant postulating.
That's strange how they show natural time cycles (days, seasons/ years) contrasting with artificial ones (months, hours/ minutes), while days of the week are used to measure out a timespan greater than a week without repeating. And Halloran suggests that visions of the past and future are similar and not easily distinguishable, and seems to obsess over time while returning to the hotel yet still shows up at exactly the "wrong time."
I feel like you, Rob, are the OG of these kind of movie analysis vids. So many have copied your style with varying degrees of subtlety and success, but I truly feel you are among the most influential TH-camrs in existence. Talking like at least Top 10.
04:45 I can answer why they closed down a month before it snowed... Colorado weather is CRAZY and it might have been just a slightly delayed winter but the previous 10 years were full on snow by that time of the year. If you've not experienced Colorado weather, it's hard to understand just how volatile it can be in the Autumn and Winter seasons.
Love these deep dives - it's curious, the more I watch your analyses of Kubrick's films I am starting to see many resonances that come later in David Lynch's work. There's a lot of Twin Peaks resonance in this one, for example, that I would never have connected, and that has really surprised me. Great stuff, thanks!
not related to timeline: refrigerated eggs can still be edible after 5 weeks unless you submerge them in a calcium hydroxide solution (old pre-fridge way) then they'll last even two years.
Refrigerated eggs can be eaten for a couple of months without preservation, to check your eggs put them in enough water so submerge them, if they sink to the bottom with no unusual bounancy then they are fine to eat
I'm having flashbacks to the Easter that my mom couldn't find the last egg of the easter egg hunt. After about a year of going "what is that smell?" She eventually discovered that my uncle had hid a died boiled egg in the heating grate 🤢. They should have done the 2 year egg preservation pre-hunt 😏
I also thought it was very odd how monotonous, routine and precise time was discussed in Hallorann’s trip back to the Overlook Hotel… why would Kubrick do this? Maybe to highlight how the Overlook Hotel warps time and space. Great video!!
Every frame I look at I notice new little details that were designed into the space that you would never consciously process. What I love about this movie is how Kubrick, the genius that he is, took a story that was utterly without substance and turned it into something brilliant.
Immediately upvoted before watching cause I know this will be another banger. Appreciate all you do, Rob. For any of you who haven't purchased his DLC, it's worth it, and we owe it to the man. Support Ager the Awesome.
3:56 you’ve never lived in Midwestern US. Sure you’re not going from warm-ish autumn to mountains of snow but it can go from summer like to winter like in one day.
I lived in Alberta, Canada (near Edmonton) for five years when I was a kid. Went to the rockies a lot, though not usually in Winter. I remember there being rapid shifts to winter out in the prairies, but not that amount of snow building up so quickly.
Could it be... that the story actually spans multiple winters? Jack does a great job as a caretaker so he is hired again next year, and then next year, but the movie simply timeskips as through and we get "that was 3 god damn years ago!"
Just wanted to mention, next week is the 100 year anniversary of the July 4th party in the picture at the end of The Shining. Time for another party! And another, and another...
As Jack is slowly losing his mind it would only make sense that his sense of time/days get blurred. Kubric was clever enough to work it into the movie seamlessly and tie it together so that everything is messing with our mind just like Jack.
If Wendy's watch said it was after 6pm in the winter in Colorado, it should be dark outside. It's gets dark before 6pm since there is only a little over 9 1/2 hours of daylight in the dead of winter.
I've only just discovered you Rob and have began watching a lot of your back catalog. Its great to find how much analysis you've done on the Shining because it's my favourite film. Watched loads of other theory and breakdown videos before and documentary films like Room 237 but not anything from yourself until now. Looking forward to seeing what other thoughts you have on the film in your other videos I've yet to watch.
16:07 danny rides his bike past a clock hanging near the cieling that shows the clock as a little after 6. Dunno if that would justify the dark window with the twins, but thought it worth mentioning.
The point of no dates is to add to the uncertainty of how long the characters have been snowed in. Think of them as subtle subconscious cues meant to enrich the plots conveyed experience.
That makes sense. After extended periods of being shut in this past year+ I have sometimes almost lost track of what month it is, let alone what week or day.
My interpretation of the photographs is that they're a subliminal representation of the ghosts in the hotel. They are everywhere, looking out at the family but none of the cast ever look at any of the photos or even acknowledge them, like they can't see them. There are even framed black and white photos in the boiler room, an odd place for such a thing. And if memory serves, there are no framed photos in any of the scenes where we actually see ghosts. Oh, and of course Jack end's up in one of the photos after his death.
Are they not the ghosts of those who have died in North America over time? The hotel represents the American Dream with its gold room being the gold standard and much like modern America it’s built upon a genocide, the Indian burial ground. As such and as we see unfolding right now, those inhabiting the hotel/US are tearing themselves and each other apart and what is influencing this self destruction is vague and unclear. The Shining was Kubrick telling us where North America would finally end up. He was obviously aware that karma is one of the inescapable laws of the universe.
Wonderful and interesting analysis as always, thanks! Years ago, before I knew very much about this movie, I was still still aware that so much of what transpires is just "wrong". The way the characters interact with one another, the strange clothes they wear, the odd dialog, the bizarre lighting, the strange layout of the hotel, the ridiculous amount of luggage they bring, etc. It only makes sense that time itself would not operate normally.
When I see the transition of Jack and the halo of the chandelier straight above his head it makes me think that there is some sort of pineal gland, alchemical shift and the gold room represents the misplaced energies that should have led to divine light but instead drove Jack to the chaos in darkness.
I've noticed that the 'shinning crowns' are often positioned directly above different characters' heads. I thought that might have been a jokey reference to a King being the author!
I think that Kubrick did try to be funny at the times, CWO and Dr Strangelove are satires and he used a lot of comedy actors. In the Shinning he had Shelley Duval dress as Goofy and Scatman Crowthers say Bugs Bunny lines, when he was the voice of Hong Kong Fuey. I don't actually know what the chandeliers mean but you were the first person I've seen pick up on them. 😊
@@robertprice2148 If Kubrick were such a literal type of guy then we wouldn’t have to watch his films dozens of times to find what he was aiming at, no?
@@jessieessex to be fair, not EVERY single thing Kubrick put in his movies is super subtle. The Stephen king reference, I don't buy. But it wouldn't surprise the life out of me of it turned to be Kubrick having a little fun with the observant viewer.
the disorientation theme is deepened by the inclusion of so many possible sub narratives. hence why tons of different analysts can find really convincing alternate meanings. i like the one where wendy is the villain lol.
Love your work, Rob! Just as an aside, though: having lived in Colorado since '95, it is very plausible to go from a clear sunny day to several feet of snow virtually overnight. The eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains (we call it the Front Range) create a kind of climate vortex which makes the weather very unpredictable and extreme. It can snow as early as September and as late as June.
Hi Rob. Love your work. I just so happen to be on a shining analysis binge - perfect timing. I'm wondering if you have ever made a connection between the 4 birds on Danny's door (next to dopey) and the bird pictures framed in room 237 above the bed? I found this recently and I wonder if there is a theme in there.
Ya know, I appreciate how people have been dissecting this particular movie over the years, coming up with theories and what not...but I'm surprised no one has asked the ultimate question. WHOS FACE IS THAT ON THE COVER POSTER!?
I’ve lived in Colorado and the weather can be really strange…one day it’ll be 60 degrees and then 20 for the next week..and that was just in Denver…the over look is way in the mountains…the snow is kinda believable
19:18 The gust photos issue can be solved easily. Up until the 1970's, black and white photography was predominant in the field, as color photography was expensive to process and print. Color photography was still expensive, but it was becoming more widely embraced. The Overlook, having had decades of guest photos already, wanted to keep their displays consistent, keeping black and white rather than color. In addition, color photos of the time were not the most colorfast, especially if they might be displayed under sunlight. All of this would have been well-known to Kubrick, as he was a photographer before going into film.
I don't think it was ever specified just how long the Torrence family had spent at the hotel. They take up residence on 30th October and Jack mentions that he is contractually obligated to act as caretaker until 1st May. What was the date supposed to be when Jack died? From the depth of the snow, I would say it could have been anywhere between December and March. I do not recall Christmas being acknowledged at all in the film.
Never thought of taking the time to think about this, but it makes this film that much more interesting to me. There's so much to study with this film. Amazing 👌
I assumed that it was another way to disorient the audience like you mentioned. It's odd to be so specific with what time is shown on the clocks while also jumbling up what day it is. I believe its a way to give the feeling of cabin fever or being lost in the woods long enough to forget what time or day it is. Knowing what time it is could be seen as comforting or something we take for granted because we use it plan our daily routines so maybe distorting the flow of time in the movie is meant to make us uneasy on an almost subconscious level. Just my opinion lol
Time doesn’t matter when your at the overlook hotel. Time just melts away. When it shows Halerin traveling and looking at his watch, that is how the REAL world works and time is important. The time errors in the hotel aren’t really errors, that’s why it’s all over the place! Just a thought. Great video!
Excellent and stand-up work as always, Rob. At least in the film, Kubrick makes it evident that both time *and* space (or “one’s own perception”) is NOT to be trusted in the Overlook. Speaking of the hotel, do you (or anyone) perhaps see any correlation between all of the continuity errors and the very name of the hotel itself?
I note that the two Days in the Days named are the ones that are missing in the first week. first ones being Tuesday, Thursday etc. The following are the days in between being Monday and Wednesday.
@16:06 when Danny rides his big wheel through the service hallway, there’s a clock on the wall that looks like says 6:10 (after the mom radioed the police at 11am) maybe that window could be blocked by the snow drifts we saw outside. Love watching these. It’s fun!
Nice vid! One thing I spotted though, at 16:33 you may be wrong about that being a clock. For one, the 'noon' is off kilter to the right. Second, it has seven labelled divisions on it, which a clock wouldn't have. It could be some other dial for pressure or whatever, not for time.
@15:35 the comment about eggs. You can freeze eggs for a few months so Wendy could still cook eggs. Absolutely useless input I know, but it's all I got. Fantastic series, thank you Rob.
Yes, but powdered eggs could only be used to prepare “scrambled“ eggs, not the one that we see as _easy over._ Yes, I´m aware that there are modern egg preparations that simulate an egg yolk, but I´m assuming that a hotel of the period of the movie would not have used these.
A few decent corrections and additions have come in folks, thanks. I like the one about the time stamp shifts going from long intervals down to short intervals (from months to hours) as being like a countdown to doom getting faster and faster.
Regarding the issue of seasonal change in the rockies, those of you who say I've never lived in the rockies ... not quite. When I was a kid I lived in Alberta, Canada for five years, so experienced five Canadian winters, and went to the rockies a lot. I do recall the shift to winter happening a lot quicker in Canada than in UK, but I don't recall THAT amount of snowfall occurring so quickly. Though we were out in the prairies. I didn't witness the seasonal change in the rockies directly.
Wow! Great video, Rob, as always! Thanks so much for sharing. I love how you decode things -- I actually moved where it looked like heaven, understand, not the evil realm. Secret messages are fun! ;)
Did I see correctly that when Jack is talking to Ullman there is the picture of him in the ball room that they show at the end?
Don’t forget that Kubrick was human and not every single continuity error you find is a deliberate “clue”.
What sort of message is Kubrick the genius giving us with the helicopter shadow during the opening scene? Or can we just admit that there are probably many many mistakes in his films that are mistaken for deliberate, meticulous planning.
Kubrick was like a painter and there are just happy little accidents
@@travman1987 At no point have I ever, in 14 yrs of making film analysis vids, claimed that every single continuity error by Kubrick (or any other film maker) is deliberate. I have even cited that helicopter shadow several times as a likely error. And at many points in my videos I point to details as "possibly" carrying intended meaning rather than confirmed. So your rebuttal there is null and void :)
@@collativelearning “The top of Hallorans head is very shiny. Possibly a shining reference.”- Rob Ager
I never get tired of listening to you talk about this movie, Rob.
Rob could talk about a Sesame Street episode and I would give it a thumb up. ❤️
I feel the same way about Rob's breakdowns of the Shining. I saw this film on Betamax numerous times in the 80s, and these analyses have helped me watch this film with fresh eyes.
@@johannypaulino2953 Funnily, I think Sesame Street would be ripe for analysis lol. I'm serious.the psychology of kids films and TV shows is fascinating.
@@collativelearning yayyyy! I’m here for it. Peace. 🌟
@@collativelearning Next thing I know, you're doing analysis of Clangers or Ed Edd n Eddy (wacky sound effects in that show)... Re: I am actually considering doing a study on a segment of Disney's Fantasia.
As someone who lives in Colorado and about 45 minutes from the Stanley hotel, I can promise you that the weather and landscape can change that drastically in less than 9 days.
Literally in 3 days, blazing heat to snow chains lol
Out there, in the winter, when does the sun rise? Could there be some light peeking through at 6:30 am? I think it gets brighter in the mornings after the autumn time change here so the 6:30 on her watch could be in the early morning? That would explain why Danny is eating cereal and watching cartoons? I assume it’s cereal and cartoons since I haven’t watched this film in at least a couple years. So having the time jump to 4 pm would make sense then.
Ester Park is where the Stanley Hotel is which is the same hotel that Stephen King bases The Shining on it’s also the same hotel seen in the Mini Serises version of The Shining
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@@jimjo8541 in Colorado seems the latest sunrise is at 5:55 so it’s easily bright enough for sunlight making it more likely it’s in the morning when jack is locked in the storeroom, plus Danny eating cereal and watching cartoons
I like you Rob. You’re the best goddamn analyst from Timbuktu to Portland, Maine.
Or Portland, Oregon for that matter.
Oh, Anthony. As soon as I read your comment, I immediately liked and went to add Portland, Oregon, but you beat me to it.
Well played.
@@audreyquinn73 I was planning on letting someone else do it, but I just couldn’t resist.
He's carrying the White Analyst's Burden for sure.
Thankyou for saying so ... what'll it be?
Indeed - time slows down until all we're left with is a photograph ("frozen" time).
This channel has totally opened my eyes on how to interpret film... As a fellow artist (musician), I only know of a handful who dive this deep into their respective discipline... Kudos!
It's because Rob is a true pro at what he does. Nothing is said without detail and if it's a stretch, he always points it out. There is so much "Film Analysis" out there but it's child's play in comparison to Rob, even the better ones. It drives me crazy to see these Circus Act YT Channels get millions of views for telling all those people what real fans of cinema already know. "25 Facts about 'The Shining' You Never Heard!"... #1- Its about the Moon Landing!!... Seriously, that's the type of sh*t they talk about. Blows my mind
You know what rob would tell you? Go read my 20 part discussion! It's going to cost you!
Ditto on everything you said OP
@@mk-ultramags1107 I just found an essay by a guy claiming he has 'finally' worked out that the Grady in Ullman's story (the father of two girls, 8 and 10) is not the same Grady that Jack meets in the Gold Room toilets.....something I read on Rob's site over a decade ago! What's worse is that more than a few comments congratulate the guy on 'his' research and 'his' conclusions! It pisses me off a little, I can't lie. One thing I have no time for is plagiarism.
@@davidlean1060 I thought the "Grady" that Jack meets in the Gold Room and restroom is the former caretaker of the Overlook Hotel and father to the twins. To me this Grady is a ghost appearing to Jack, my interpretation. This same Grady tells Jack: "you've always been the caretaker." Then who is Delbert Grady the father of the twins? To me it is the Grady in the Gold Room restroom. What am I missing? Can you point me to a link with pther analysis. Thanks! Shine on! :)
I feel like the time between the cards start to become closer and closer together. Like the escalation of his madness becomes more rapid
I noticed that too
Perhaps the intent with the weekday captions was to make it feel like the days were bleeding together for Jack, with nothing different happening in his environment to distinguish one day from another.
That’s what I think as well.
I completely agree with this idea (and after 15 months of Covid-19, I can relate to that personally). There was too much of a change in the weather, as Rob explained, for the six day titles to be immediately sequencial. It occurred to me as well after the one month later title the first few days would be less than one month apart. The days were blending into each other but as the intensity of the situation escalated, the time between the day titles were getting closer and closer. So for example, the first two days were three weeks apart, then two weeks, then one, and then three days apart, as in finally from Saturday to Monday.
I also considered that the last two titles of specific times were actually from Dick Halloran's time zone in Florida as in when he received Danny's cry for help it was 4pm EST.
Time ceases to make sense or matter. They're no longer on the Prime Material Plane.
yes, that's what I've always thought!!! the unstable view of time. huge spans of time can happen in an instance, a few hours can feel like forever, a few moments can feel like hours
Speaking of mazes...ever notice that the maze appears hidden and/or absent from the aerial footage of the hotel?
Look at jacks tie when he interviews with Ullman
11:52 um where’s the maze? Should be visible
Rob has mentioned the disappearing hedge maze in one of his many analyses of the movie.
The Maze is within The Outlook. The Outlook is the United States. With all its stars hanging on the walls like ghosts from the past.
This is just a limitation of the time. The Timberline Lodge is fairly close to the summit of Mt. Hood. There's barely enough level surface in front of the building for the parking lot, let alone a hedge maze. Since the actual sets were in England it was either sacrifice the maze or the mountain for the aerial shots. CGI wouldn't have been good enough yet to fake it.
And Kubrik really compresses time when in the bathroom scene, Grady suddenly switches from polite, affable, deferential serving man to stern, domineering, intimidating bossy hard-ass. The effect is astounding.
I’ve concluded that these analyses are better than the film itself.
Incontinuities like this is Kubrick's take on subliminal perception. Compared to his three earlier films, The Shining is seemingly a blunt instrument. So he took his time to puzzle the audience with irregularities of all sorts. An old chessplayer gets a kick of doing this. - Thanks for the example!
"I read somewhere that if you think you're going over the edge, the first thing you lose is your sense of time; with your eyes closed you can't tell five seconds from fifty."
- Frank Murphy, BlueThunder
DMT is like that.
exactly
Uh oh lol
I've always thought the inter-titles were just there to indicate how rapidly things were going down hill. The unravelling starts very broadly, then gradually closes in... seasons, months, weeks, days, morning afternoon. I think its designed to ratchet up the tension, increasing immediacy of the danger.
I love your stuff,, Rob, but just a friendly comment from a meteorologist: The weather just east of the Rocky mountains can change very quickly, and very dramatically. To go from a fine summer day to a winter snowstorm can occur in a day. It's called a chinook.
That's absolutely right. And the shadows at 3:54 drop at a quite shallow angle. So early November would fit perfectly.
That definitely is NOT a Chinook, a chinook is when a very cold winter suddenly gets warm do to winds over the Rockies. I definitely have seen it go from summer to winter is less than a week. This makes me question a lot more of what you say in this interpretation of this movie. If you make the mistake of making the assumption that green grass one day means ,it can’t snow the next . A very short sighted guess. But, that mistake has made me watch this 2 times , so good work. Keep up the critiques
Yeah, I wanted to comment on this as well. I've lived in the rocky mountains, and you can literally have a warm green autumn day and then be snowed it overnight in feet of snow. Especially in October and November. I've definitely experienced something similar to the snow storm in the shining.
Limeys don't really understand Amerian weather at all, they have nothing to compare it to....
But Kubrick left it to our interpretation rather than a single line of dialogue from Wendy like: "Wow that snow came quick!"
Another piece of detail: the jazz song that plays when Jack enters the ballroom is called "Midnight, the Stars and You". In its lyrics, several lines begin with "Midnight...". Among all the light jazz songs from this era, Kubrick specifically chose the one that referenced a specific time.
"This would not occur in nine days"
Have you been to Colorado?
An unwinding clock loses track of time. The phrase "unwinding the clock" can also refer to 'the turning back of time'. Unwinding means "To wind off; to loose or separate; to untwist; to untwine; as, to unwind thread, to unwind a ball of yarn", it also has an archaic meaning according to Webster: "to trace to the end unwinding the labryinth and bringing the hero out- Laurence Sterne". That ties quite neatly with the labyrinth/minotor themes.
One more point, I've always thought the 10 captions were to identify "acceleration" and not necessarily specific periods - but to show the compression of time. We started with vague checkpoints (Interview, Closing Day), then jumped a month, and then compressed to days, and then compressed to hours... To me this illustrates the acceleration of time and events, more than specific days/times. The dire situation was gaining speed, a sense of pending doom, urgency, etc. Months to days to hours.... The subconscious level of "time" being presented seems to me more about the emphasis on urgency, rather the irrelevant specific times presented.
Lovely! Jack and his family move in on Halloween and stay through Walpurgis Night. Lovecraft would have approved of this timing.
I'm a simple man: Rob posts a video on The Shining, I click.
As we all do
I'm even simpler, bordering on simpleton: if I notice people parroting a phrase ad nauseam I feel an urge to mimic them.
You completely missed the fact that the U.S. has four time zones - Pacific, Mountian, Central, and Eastern. Hallorann is leaving Miami, which is in the Eastern time zone. When it's 8:00AM Eastern, it's 6:00AM Mountain time (Colorado). So Danny is watching cartoons at 6:30AM (not PM). Note the breakfast cereal in front of him. Jack pounds on the pantry door at around 7:00AM. Then, later that day at 4:00PM, Jack is sleeping on the dry goods when Grady knocks.
One important fact here: the day the hotel closes is October 30th, the day before Halloween, while in the "All work and no play" scene Jack declares he is obligated as caretaker until May 1, the day after Walpurgis Night AKA the Witches' Sabbath. These are probably the two most important days in the occult. I think these were chosen specifically for this by Kubrick, to symbolize the descent into horror and the supernatural...
Regarding the eggs, the book establishes that Sidewinder, Co. is close enough to make grocery shopping feasible for at least a month after they move in. In fact, Halloran advises Wendy to do so and buy fresh milk for Danny as long as it's feasible, since they only have powdered once they lose the roads.
Thanks for that.
It's also worth noting that in late October it should be pretty much dark by 6pm, and by mid-winter it's completely dark by about 5pm... The scene with the typewriter, and then where Wendy examines the snowcat apparently occurs between 6:30 and 7pm, yet it is broad daylight outside.
we're now observing the suns position from the shadows of the trees in a 40 year old movie.
Rob, you're the most based man on this whole plattform.
Something that stood out to me about the time titles was that it gave me a feeling of a crime reenactment documentary. Its just a feeling but that gives, perhaps, a feeling that we’re watching something that is already pre-determined.
I always felt that the contrast of the normal events happening in linear time (plane travel, car, snowcat) versus what is happening at the Overlook was supernatural twisting of time perception, physical things, etc. I think all these time errors were part of Kubrick's intentional design to show that reality was being manipulated. My thoughts anyhow, interesting tidbits here!
That's how I see it, too. They aren't really discrepancies; that's just how time works in the Overlook.
_How_ does this channel still not have 500k likes?
Mr.Ager - hats off, sir..
again
Yes, but at 16:24, the clock reads, 6:10. Clearly hours later.
Having friends and family in Colorado, it can dump many feet of snow in a few days. In wolf creek ski area they can get 24+inches in 24 hours.
I just drove through Wolf Creek! Moved out of Durango :(
And that's without even factoring in how much a snowdrift can build up against an inner corner like that one with high winds and light, dry snow. Given a sharp enough cold snap (not too terribly improbable in the Rockies), that can very easily be a single day's product.
The only real issue with that is daylight hours: even if the _4 PM_ segment really *is* just nine days after the _One Month Later_ segment, that would put it right around Thanksgiving, and the start of Daylight Savings, so the evenings should still be pretty well lit until well after 7:00. Actually, sunset should be later during that final week than it was during _Closing Day,_ if we're committed to taking it literally.
I think it makes more sense to say that the Hotel is some kind of discrete space where time is both inconsistently paced *and* cyclical in nature. Once its victims enter, they get stuck reliving the same struggle on an endless repeat--unless they find a way to escape.
I think that interpretation also fits really well with the subtext of American and European history, and with the theme of chronic familial violence and abuse.
Very true. Even here in NYC, we can get a couple feet of snow in one long night and snow drifts drift covering half the door.
And that's just Queens NY. I can only imagine Colorado.
Once again, this guys' film analysis is just so far off, and people take his work as gospel.
I’m under the impression “time” is an abstract, meaningless concept in this story. If the characters have “always” been at the hotel as mentioned by Grady, then this would mean it could
Literally be any time: past, present or future. Dates are chronological-days of the week are redundant. I think this was intentionally done by Kubrick and is a masterful concept. He was a genius, unlike any other the world has known.
Halloran operated outside the Hotel.
The orchestral stabs when the title says 4pm (black screen), or any of the time stamps in the movie.. I can imagine Stan in the recording studio listening to different jump scare sounds by an orchestral ensemble. "Ah no .. yes that one."
Fun fact: in germany many actors have their voiceactors for years and years, jack nicholson is one of them, everybody in germany could identify jack nicholsons german voice, however he got established a little bit later than the shining, the voiceactor is dubbing ullmanns voice in this movie.
Your saying Jack Nicholsons future German voice actor voiced Ullman in this movie?
@@JonNoto correct.
In Canada we often have all four seasons in a single day. Between Octoner and february I often bring two outfits wherever I go in case the weather changes from scorching hot to snowstorm. Maybe it's like that in Colorado.
It's amazing how a movie 42 years old is still one of the most talked about in history.
My favorite movie of all. Love these videos
I think the haziness of when things happen and how long they’ve been there in this film actually helps it. It adds to the “going mad” quality it has and actually makes you feel like you’re starting to go a little mad along with the characters
Something I’m just noticing for the first Time is Jack’s tie when he interviews with Ullman. It’s grass green and the pattern looks quite like an overhead of a maze 🤔
That change in weather could happen within nine days in the Colorado mountains.
That's what I thought. I said to myself "Oh, yes it can! This Brit doesn't know shit about the Colorado Rockies!" He is wasting our time with obscure theories. I'm unsubscribing now. I've had enough of this weak analyzing and ignorant postulating.
@@sethflix Where are you located? I'm about to film my fourth music video...
I've had it snow with the sun shining.
@@sethflix That was one minor point in a long list of observations
That's strange how they show natural time cycles (days, seasons/ years) contrasting with artificial ones (months, hours/ minutes), while days of the week are used to measure out a timespan greater than a week without repeating. And Halloran suggests that visions of the past and future are similar and not easily distinguishable, and seems to obsess over time while returning to the hotel yet still shows up at exactly the "wrong time."
I feel like you, Rob, are the OG of these kind of movie analysis vids. So many have copied your style with varying degrees of subtlety and success, but I truly feel you are among the most influential TH-camrs in existence. Talking like at least Top 10.
04:45 I can answer why they closed down a month before it snowed... Colorado weather is CRAZY and it might have been just a slightly delayed winter but the previous 10 years were full on snow by that time of the year. If you've not experienced Colorado weather, it's hard to understand just how volatile it can be in the Autumn and Winter seasons.
Great work, Rob. They're ghosts already, right? That's why the time and the hotel don't obey rules for them. Isn't that what the end is telling us?
Love these deep dives - it's curious, the more I watch your analyses of Kubrick's films I am starting to see many resonances that come later in David Lynch's work. There's a lot of Twin Peaks resonance in this one, for example, that I would never have connected, and that has really surprised me. Great stuff, thanks!
not related to timeline:
refrigerated eggs can still be edible after 5 weeks unless you submerge them in a calcium hydroxide solution (old pre-fridge way) then they'll last even two years.
Refrigerated eggs can be eaten for a couple of months without preservation, to check your eggs put them in enough water so submerge them, if they sink to the bottom with no unusual bounancy then they are fine to eat
Just did this this recently. Had 12 eggs that were 2 months old and checked them in water. Only 2 of them were bad.
I'm having flashbacks to the Easter that my mom couldn't find the last egg of the easter egg hunt. After about a year of going "what is that smell?" She eventually discovered that my uncle had hid a died boiled egg in the heating grate 🤢. They should have done the 2 year egg preservation pre-hunt 😏
@@dianesanford581 🤣🤣🤣
I've watched everything you have on TH-cam 10x over...
So glad there's some new stuff
I also thought it was very odd how monotonous, routine and precise time was discussed in Hallorann’s trip back to the Overlook Hotel… why would Kubrick do this? Maybe to highlight how the Overlook Hotel warps time and space. Great video!!
Or maybe to differentiate sanity and insanity caused by a haunted hotel or just already crazy people getting worse
Every frame I look at I notice new little details that were designed into the space that you would never consciously process. What I love about this movie is how Kubrick, the genius that he is, took a story that was utterly without substance and turned it into something brilliant.
Awesome that you keep digging up new stuff from this masterpiece!
I've got clocks spinning in my head now, lol
Immediately upvoted before watching cause I know this will be another banger. Appreciate all you do, Rob. For any of you who haven't purchased his DLC, it's worth it, and we owe it to the man. Support Ager the Awesome.
3:56 you’ve never lived in Midwestern US. Sure you’re not going from warm-ish autumn to mountains of snow but it can go from summer like to winter like in one day.
I have experienced this in the Mayacama mts in California 100 degrees one day, snowing the next. course no major snow drifts as was pointed out
I was thinking Something similiar
Agreed.
its the same in scotland, what makes hill hiking so dangerous there
I lived in Alberta, Canada (near Edmonton) for five years when I was a kid. Went to the rockies a lot, though not usually in Winter. I remember there being rapid shifts to winter out in the prairies, but not that amount of snow building up so quickly.
Love your work Rob. By your videos about The Shining it has become one of my all-time favorites
Could it be... that the story actually spans multiple winters? Jack does a great job as a caretaker so he is hired again next year, and then next year, but the movie simply timeskips as through and we get "that was 3 god damn years ago!"
Simply brilliant! I enjoy these so much Rob! The analysis on the lighting ......wow.
Just wanted to mention, next week is the 100 year anniversary of the July 4th party in the picture at the end of The Shining. Time for another party! And another, and another...
Lol so it is !!!
any excuse 4 a party
It'd be really weird if Jack Nicholson died on the day next week!
As Jack is slowly losing his mind it would only make sense that his sense of time/days get blurred. Kubric was clever enough to work it into the movie seamlessly and tie it together so that everything is messing with our mind just like Jack.
If Wendy's watch said it was after 6pm in the winter in Colorado, it should be dark outside. It's gets dark before 6pm since there is only a little over 9 1/2 hours of daylight in the dead of winter.
I've only just discovered you Rob and have began watching a lot of your back catalog. Its great to find how much analysis you've done on the Shining because it's my favourite film. Watched loads of other theory and breakdown videos before and documentary films like Room 237 but not anything from yourself until now. Looking forward to seeing what other thoughts you have on the film in your other videos I've yet to watch.
Friday is pay day and it’s conspicuously missing because that’s when he drinks his check away.
16:07 danny rides his bike past a clock hanging near the cieling that shows the clock as a little after 6. Dunno if that would justify the dark window with the twins, but thought it worth mentioning.
The point of no dates is to add to the uncertainty of how long the characters have been snowed in. Think of them as subtle subconscious cues meant to enrich the plots conveyed experience.
Precisely.
That makes sense. After extended periods of being shut in this past year+ I have sometimes almost lost track of what month it is, let alone what week or day.
My personal opinion is that The Shining has several plots and many undiscovered things
I think the scene with Danny and his mother is actually 6am because it appears that Danny is eating a bowl of cereal and Danny is in sleeping clothes.
Ah yes, well spotted.
I think Jack referring to April maybe because taxes are due at the end of April.
your videos are magical , never stop man.
6:27 That tells us we're now OUT OF TIME in a nightmare hellscape.
That much snow could easily accumulate in 9 days in winter in Colorado.
My interpretation of the photographs is that they're a subliminal representation of the ghosts in the hotel. They are everywhere, looking out at the family but none of the cast ever look at any of the photos or even acknowledge them, like they can't see them. There are even framed black and white photos in the boiler room, an odd place for such a thing.
And if memory serves, there are no framed photos in any of the scenes where we actually see ghosts. Oh, and of course Jack end's up in one of the photos after his death.
Are they not the ghosts of those who have died in North America over time? The hotel represents the American Dream with its gold room being the gold standard and much like modern America it’s built upon a genocide, the Indian burial ground. As such and as we see unfolding right now, those inhabiting the hotel/US are tearing themselves and each other apart and what is influencing this self destruction is vague and unclear.
The Shining was Kubrick telling us where North America would finally end up. He was obviously aware that karma is one of the inescapable laws of the universe.
Wonderful and interesting analysis as always, thanks! Years ago, before I knew very much about this movie, I was still still aware that so much of what transpires is just "wrong". The way the characters interact with one another, the strange clothes they wear, the odd dialog, the bizarre lighting, the strange layout of the hotel, the ridiculous amount of luggage they bring, etc. It only makes sense that time itself would not operate normally.
The hotel may take a month to get things going again before the opening season
When I see the transition of Jack and the halo of the chandelier straight above his head it makes me think that there is some sort of pineal gland, alchemical shift and the gold room represents the misplaced energies that should have led to divine light but instead drove Jack to the chaos in darkness.
I've noticed that the 'shinning crowns' are often positioned directly above different characters' heads. I thought that might have been a jokey reference to a King being the author!
@@robertprice2148 I doubt that Kubrick was trying to joke around to poke fun at King but you can think that if you like.
I think that Kubrick did try to be funny at the times, CWO and Dr Strangelove are satires and he used a lot of comedy actors. In the Shinning he had Shelley Duval dress as Goofy and Scatman Crowthers say Bugs Bunny lines, when he was the voice of Hong Kong Fuey.
I don't actually know what the chandeliers mean but you were the first person I've seen pick up on them. 😊
@@robertprice2148 If Kubrick were such a literal type of guy then we wouldn’t have to watch his films dozens of times to find what he was aiming at, no?
@@jessieessex to be fair, not EVERY single thing Kubrick put in his movies is super subtle.
The Stephen king reference, I don't buy. But it wouldn't surprise the life out of me of it turned to be Kubrick having a little fun with the observant viewer.
the disorientation theme is deepened by the inclusion of so many possible sub narratives. hence why tons of different analysts can find really convincing alternate meanings. i like the one where wendy is the villain lol.
the Wendy theory is my favorite. with this in mind the movie finally made sense to me.
it's here
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Nice! Always get pumped whenever you post new videos on The Shining or Kubrick in general
Great stuff as always thanks for another free one Rob!!
Love your work, Rob! Just as an aside, though: having lived in Colorado since '95, it is very plausible to go from a clear sunny day to several feet of snow virtually overnight. The eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains (we call it the Front Range) create a kind of climate vortex which makes the weather very unpredictable and extreme. It can snow as early as September and as late as June.
Hi Rob. Love your work. I just so happen to be on a shining analysis binge - perfect timing. I'm wondering if you have ever made a connection between the 4 birds on Danny's door (next to dopey) and the bird pictures framed in room 237 above the bed? I found this recently and I wonder if there is a theme in there.
Ya know, I appreciate how people have been dissecting this particular movie over the years, coming up with theories and what not...but I'm surprised no one has asked the ultimate question. WHOS FACE IS THAT ON THE COVER POSTER!?
I think its Roger because of the teeth. and the yellow backround is a mirror of his yellow painted gold makeup he wears
@@nicholaskaufmann7276 Roger?
@@joekher1739 He is based on the character in "The Shining" Novel
@@nicholaskaufmann7276 🤔ohhhh. I must look into that now. Lol for a minute there I thought you meant Roger Smith from American Dad lol!.
Amazing!! Was just revisiting your Shining analysis videos and here's a new one that pops up. I HAVE THE SHINE!!
I’ve lived in Colorado and the weather can be really strange…one day it’ll be 60 degrees and then 20 for the next week..and that was just in Denver…the over look is way in the mountains…the snow is kinda believable
19:18 The gust photos issue can be solved easily. Up until the 1970's, black and white photography was predominant in the field, as color photography was expensive to process and print. Color photography was still expensive, but it was becoming more widely embraced. The Overlook, having had decades of guest photos already, wanted to keep their displays consistent, keeping black and white rather than color. In addition, color photos of the time were not the most colorfast, especially if they might be displayed under sunlight.
All of this would have been well-known to Kubrick, as he was a photographer before going into film.
I don't think it was ever specified just how long the Torrence family had spent at the hotel. They take up residence on 30th October and Jack mentions that he is contractually obligated to act as caretaker until 1st May. What was the date supposed to be when Jack died? From the depth of the snow, I would say it could have been anywhere between December and March. I do not recall Christmas being acknowledged at all in the film.
Good point about the lack of Christmas. Interesting in terms of both timeline and mood.
This channel is something else
Never thought of taking the time to think about this, but it makes this film that much more interesting to me. There's so much to study with this film. Amazing 👌
I assumed that it was another way to disorient the audience like you mentioned. It's odd to be so specific with what time is shown on the clocks while also jumbling up what day it is. I believe its a way to give the feeling of cabin fever or being lost in the woods long enough to forget what time or day it is. Knowing what time it is could be seen as comforting or something we take for granted because we use it plan our daily routines so maybe distorting the flow of time in the movie is meant to make us uneasy on an almost subconscious level. Just my opinion lol
4:10 "This would not occur in 9 days."
Maybe not where you live. In Colorado, this is totally feasible.
Time doesn’t matter when your at the overlook hotel. Time just melts away. When it shows Halerin traveling and looking at his watch, that is how the REAL world works and time is important. The time errors in the hotel aren’t really errors, that’s why it’s all over the place! Just a thought. Great video!
Excellent and stand-up work as always, Rob. At least in the film, Kubrick makes it evident that both time *and* space (or “one’s own perception”) is NOT to be trusted in the Overlook. Speaking of the hotel, do you (or anyone) perhaps see any correlation between all of the continuity errors and the very name of the hotel itself?
I note that the two Days in the Days named are the ones that are missing in the first week. first ones being Tuesday, Thursday etc. The following are the days in between being Monday and Wednesday.
@16:06 when Danny rides his big wheel through the service hallway, there’s a clock on the wall that looks like says 6:10 (after the mom radioed the police at 11am)
maybe that window could be blocked by the snow drifts we saw outside.
Love watching these. It’s fun!
Wow never thought I'll hear from you again, so excited
Nice vid! One thing I spotted though, at 16:33 you may be wrong about that being a clock. For one, the 'noon' is off kilter to the right. Second, it has seven labelled divisions on it, which a clock wouldn't have. It could be some other dial for pressure or whatever, not for time.
Just scanning for something interesting to watch and Rob pops up with a Shining upload 🙌🏻
Your Shining analyses are always interesting. It helps with my writing. Thanks.
Very interesting!!! I have studied this film for years, yet never noticed any if this!
@15:35 the comment about eggs. You can freeze eggs for a few months so Wendy could still cook eggs.
Absolutely useless input I know, but it's all I got.
Fantastic series, thank you Rob.
Love this! Great as always, Rob.
Maybe the hotel keeps powdered eggs. They would not go bad I think.
Yes, but powdered eggs could only be used to prepare “scrambled“ eggs, not the one that we see as _easy over._
Yes, I´m aware that there are modern egg preparations that simulate an egg yolk, but I´m assuming that a hotel of the period of the movie would not have used these.
Excellent videos as always!
Always interesting to hear your theories.