Am I the only one where who is watching those videos just because he wants to learn something about chemistry and who is propably never going to perform any of those experiments himself?
I never did chemistry nor physics in high school and in university, and I love to watch these videos because they are so interesting in so many ways and you can still learn a thing or two while watching them. And the bonus is that Nurdrage is really to the point and helps you understand what is going on :-).
This is a terrific video. Thank you so much for producing it. I have encountered three additional ferric chloride solutions I would like to recover, but as they are not pure, I am not sure how this process would work with them. The first is ferric chloride that has had citric acid added to make what is called the Edinburgh Etch which uses four parts ferric chloride and one part citric acid solution (1 liter hot water mixed with 300ml citric acid powder). The other two solutions are both straight ferric chloride, and the Edinburgh Etch solution that have been neutralized with baking soda in a misguided attempt to render them harmless. Any suggestions how to process these solutions would be greatly appreciated. I believe solving to this could help keep hundreds of gallons of waste from being illegally dumped into land fills and sewers. There is a large group of people etching art in addition to those making circuit boards and I believe many would benefit. Thank you again for all of your great videos!
I read a description of how to use simple electroplating to remove the copper (it plates a copper electrode), using about 10A of current. Wouldn't that be so much simpler?? I haven't tried it yet, but it was published by a trusted electronics magazine
Really good work, what happens if we add sulfuric acid and water in stoichiometric ratios to the etching acid from the beginning and then distilling it? Do we get hcl solution as a distillate and pure copper sulfate crystals as a residue? Thanks your channel is great 👍
I want to see a method of doing a copper mirror on the inside of a bottle. I know the glucose reducing methods like the ones used for silver are too weak for copper but i don't have the time to explore this much further in my lab. I would like to see a series of this. To show the experimental prosses it takes to get something done. Kinda like a road to copper mirror series. It would give an insight on what a scientist goes through to reach an acceptable outcome. It could come off as pretty educational and might inspire some young chemist to do the same. Just some thoughts.
Looks like tubestart isn't going to work for crowdfunding. So i'm checking in with other sites. I know everyone is going to say Patreon, but i'm reluctant to use them since they require i give my social security number. I keep looking for other funding sites.
NurdRage is a gold plated anode good? because gold is the only non reactive metal I have on hand and I could do some electroplating to make a nice anode.
It would be cool, you tried electrolysis of different organic compounds (mainly carboxylic acids or amines). Surprisingly little is known about such a reactions.
If you were using Ferric Chloride to dissolve Iron, Steel or Stainless Steel, what would be needed to recover / rejuvenate the spent etchant? I suspect just more HCL acid and then oxides again? Follow up - what happens to carbon, nickel and Chromium if etching Stainless Steel? Super practical reasons for asking - many thanks!
What do you think would happen if you drunk liquid nitrogen because the whatever frost effect would stop it from touching you cause it's hotter on the inside of your body
iFyre If I'm not mistaken, I believe it has something to do with the fact that he (or she) is recording at his/her workplace and wishes to not be identified. But this is coming from a comment I read months ago; I couldn't tell you if it was NurdRage's comment or someone merely speculating.
nerdygamer11 Yes, but that was a long time ago, If I remember correctly she now has a home lab. Or I might have just imagined that whole thing, I've never really been sure about anything about this channel.
yes, you can take it to your local hazardous waste disposal location and give it to them. then buy you some fresh fecl. I personally like to use the hcl + peroxide formula for etchant, since it turns into CuCl as you use it more, and you can just aerate it with the aquarium stone/air pump to reactivate it, occasionally add a few ml of fresh acid to maintain acidity, and just keep using the same batch for a long long time. best part besides no waste to deal with for a long time, is that the HCL can be purchased cheap from home depot as "muriatic acid" by the pool chemicals for like 10 bucks, and peroxide is like 3 bucks for a liter at the drug store.
NurdRage Hey I have a very peculiar question. If you boil off urine. What is left at the bottom of the container? Also- You should do a video on the old method of deriving saltpeter from urine. It may seem disgusting but in the name of science all must be tested.
is more convenient and easy, to recover copper and ferric chloride,at same time, making an electrolitic cell with diaphragm, in one compartiment. 50%hydrocloric acid and in the other the waste ferric chloride,,,,electrodes made from graphite and a thin foil of cooper.,current density about 10 amp/inch2,,,,remember 96500 coulomb=1 mol of copper.=63 grs
nognog nog I have recovered original voice by pitching down audio and he did not sounded like a girl. btw no additional waist chemicals have been produced during conversion.
I read that Ferric Chloride can be made to etch faster by addition of Citric Acid to make a solution called 'Edinburgh Etch'. I'm very curious to know if you've heard of this technique and if you could possibly talk about the mechanism of action and efficacy? Love your channel btw, wish there was a subscriber level in patreon that would get us in more direct contact with you for this sort of discussion. Be well
Hey NurdRage. I've been watching your videos for a while now and I've been thinking that you should set up a patreon account for your channel. It will help cover for the cost of any lab equipment (I'm no chemist so I don't exaclty know what you may need/want) and also allow for you to maintain a steady revenue from what you do.
Raihan Danurdara Dissove it in distilled water and add a more reactive metal with valence 4, such as tin. The tin (IV) chloride should dissolve and the pure platnium should precipitate. Recover by filtering. Lead wouldn't be too good because the plumbic chloride precipitate would make it difficult to separate.
Raihan Danurdara Any other method will cause production of chlorine gas, and that's generally bad... At least you need a lot of safety to do it. With tin, you don't need to worry, because tin (II) chloride quickly reacts with any chlorine molecules to prevent the gas from escaping. If you want to do it anyways, use any other metal and it should work, with the exception of silver, mercury or lead, as these would precipitate along with the platinum.
Btw, I don't know if platinum is soluble in water. I considered it as not being soluble, but I may be incorrect. If it is, you have to use silver or lead, and take care of the chlorine gas that escapes. There will be a precipitate of silver chloride or plumbous chloride, filter that then evaporate the remaining water. After evaporating the water, pure platinum should precipitate.
what is a good reasonably priced hotplate a begging chemist could use. i don't want to break the bank but i i want it to get hot enough it will be useful. also i hear a lot of danger about hot plates is it really an easy thing to catch it on fire? i don't want this obviously ha ha.
hey NR I was just looking at some info on the Journal of Chemical Education on Sulfamic acid (pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ed020p189). Seeing that they reference that it is used to make nitrous oxide, I naturally went to your page to see it. You haven't done it yet, so consider this my request.
***** He had tried crowd funding to raise money for a lab when he switched jobs and could no longer use the lab at work for his videos. Unfortunately he didn't make enough money for a lab space at the time. I am glad he managed to set up another lab. I enjoy his videos.
I only understand about 20% of things you talk about, but for whatever reason I still find your videos extremely interesting :|
Am I the only one where who is watching those videos just because he wants to learn something about chemistry and who is propably never going to perform any of those experiments himself?
Probably not.
I never did chemistry nor physics in high school and in university, and I love to watch these videos because they are so interesting in so many ways and you can still learn a thing or two while watching them. And the bonus is that Nurdrage is really to the point and helps you understand what is going on :-).
No you are not. For example me, i even dont understand what he is talking about. İ am turkish and dont understand english much.
Finkel - Funk not the only one. I have watched every last one of these videos and they are cool as fuck, i will not be doing any of these things
Terry Sterling I don't even understand what he is doing in half of them but I just love him
I wish I knew you in real life. You certainly must be the coolest person ever to hang out with!
I think NurdRage is Grant Thompsons wife.
Atlas Slates That sweater! ...I don't judge or care either way -- brilliant chemist deserves the accolade :)
OMG i just now saw you are back!!!!!! YT didn't tell me that 10 months ago!!!!
anyway Welcome back!!!
This is a terrific video. Thank you so much for producing it. I have encountered three additional ferric chloride solutions I would like to recover, but as they are not pure, I am not sure how this process would work with them. The first is ferric chloride that has had citric acid added to make what is called the Edinburgh Etch which uses four parts ferric chloride and one part citric acid solution (1 liter hot water mixed with 300ml citric acid powder).
The other two solutions are both straight ferric chloride, and the Edinburgh Etch solution that have been neutralized with baking soda in a misguided attempt to render them harmless. Any suggestions how to process these solutions would be greatly appreciated. I believe solving to this could help keep hundreds of gallons of waste from being illegally dumped into land fills and sewers. There is a large group of people etching art in addition to those making circuit boards and I believe many would benefit. Thank you again for all of your great videos!
is it worth doing all this? it consumes a lot of energy its seems
If you dont mind asking, may i know where did you get the voice changer i find it so awesome :3? Also love your channel bro its cool 👌🏼
Please have a video on gold and silver recovery from pcb circuit boards.
Is there a way to directly convert the copper(I) chloride to copper metal without chemical waste?
Can you remove the iron from the solution if you so wanted to?
I read a description of how to use simple electroplating to remove the copper (it plates a copper electrode), using about 10A of current. Wouldn't that be so much simpler??
I haven't tried it yet, but it was published by a trusted electronics magazine
Anyone else thunk this guy sounds like buffalo bill?
"It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again"
Alex Lovato I just always assumed NurdRage WAS Buffalo Bill.
Justin Hall Voice changer, iff you are a long time follower you would know.
Ben-Rollo Carpenter. It was a joke. Look up Buffalo Bill Silence of the Lambs. He's got a weird low pitched voice.
Alex Lovato He does, but without the accent Bill has.
Justin Hall Ok m8, dónt know that Buffalo bill, so. But now i looked it up and you are rright.
Would you mind if I took the information in this video and made it into an assignment for my students? I'd be showing them your video afterwards.
Having you already uploaded this?
Chris Greenaway That's what I thought at first too, but this one is different :)
Really good work, what happens if we add sulfuric acid and water in stoichiometric ratios to the etching acid from the beginning and then distilling it? Do we get hcl solution as a distillate and pure copper sulfate crystals as a residue?
Thanks your channel is great 👍
I want to see a method of doing a copper mirror on the inside of a bottle. I know the glucose reducing methods like the ones used for silver are too weak for copper but i don't have the time to explore this much further in my lab. I would like to see a series of this. To show the experimental prosses it takes to get something done. Kinda like a road to copper mirror series. It would give an insight on what a scientist goes through to reach an acceptable outcome. It could come off as pretty educational and might inspire some young chemist to do the same. Just some thoughts.
What editing software do you use?
I'm not sure if you take suggestions, but it would be cool if you do a video on the "Blue Bottle" experiment.
At which step the hydrochloric acid is created in this solution? At the time of etching, before or after it?
Looks like tubestart isn't going to work for crowdfunding. So i'm checking in with other sites. I know everyone is going to say Patreon, but i'm reluctant to use them since they require i give my social security number. I keep looking for other funding sites.
Subscribe Star xo
Oh nice one I want you to make a video about some chemicals and tiknology
Is this the ferric iron yellow dust found on tomb floor that was used as poison dust? Was this only use it had back then?
NurdRage is a gold plated anode good? because gold is the only non reactive metal I have on hand and I could do some electroplating to make a nice anode.
Nurdrage , I want you to make a video showing how to make phosphorus pentoxide
It would be cool, you tried electrolysis of different organic compounds (mainly carboxylic acids or amines). Surprisingly little is known about such a reactions.
how do i recycle pure ferric chloride...will simple distillation work?
I have magnesium and it has oxidised. What is the best method to remove the magnesium oxide?
If you were using Ferric Chloride to dissolve Iron, Steel or Stainless Steel, what would be needed to recover / rejuvenate the spent etchant? I suspect just more HCL acid and then oxides again? Follow up - what happens to carbon, nickel and Chromium if etching Stainless Steel? Super practical reasons for asking - many thanks!
Cool video NurdRage! You are God of chemistry! ☺Can you make video about preparetion of potassium?
Another Nurdrage video so soon?! Yes!!! *pinches self to make sure not dreaming.
But if you pinch yourself and you are dreaming then you cease to exist in your now lucid imaginary world and you enter the boring real world.
What do you think would happen if you drunk liquid nitrogen because the whatever frost effect would stop it from touching you cause it's hotter on the inside of your body
Sir. How to make nickel sulphate?
How can you convert the FeCl2 back into HCL for use in pickling steel?
You probably get this question all the time, but why do you use a voice changer?
iFyre If I'm not mistaken, I believe it has something to do with the fact that he (or she) is recording at his/her workplace and wishes to not be identified. But this is coming from a comment I read months ago; I couldn't tell you if it was NurdRage's comment or someone merely speculating.
Plausible.
nerdygamer11 Yes, but that was a long time ago, If I remember correctly she now has a home lab.
Or I might have just imagined that whole thing, I've never really been sure about anything about this channel.
I saw his/her wrists, and I was like "Are those really his wrists?". They look like female wrists.
The NEYi And it is a good one. Sex is irrelevant when dealing with a brilliant chemist and public educator :D
Yet again another goid video
Ant Bunting Nu-uh! Copper :P
FINALLY A VIDEO!!!
please make video how to recycle iron from iron chloride
Can I use MMO anode for CuSO4 electrolysis?
Can I just ship it off somewhere and have it recycled for less cost than the original ferric chloride?
yes, you can take it to your local hazardous waste disposal location and give it to them. then buy you some fresh fecl. I personally like to use the hcl + peroxide formula for etchant, since it turns into CuCl as you use it more, and you can just aerate it with the aquarium stone/air pump to reactivate it, occasionally add a few ml of fresh acid to maintain acidity, and just keep using the same batch for a long long time. best part besides no waste to deal with for a long time, is that the HCL can be purchased cheap from home depot as "muriatic acid" by the pool chemicals for like 10 bucks, and peroxide is like 3 bucks for a liter at the drug store.
Instead of bubbling air could you use hydrogen peroxide?
+Sficlassic you could, but air is cheaper :)
You said here Iron(II) Chloride oxidizes in air to form rust but in the making of iron(III) Chloride air transforms ferrous chloride to ferric why ?
NurdRage Hey I have a very peculiar question. If you boil off urine. What is left at the bottom of the container?
Also- You should do a video on the old method of deriving saltpeter from urine.
It may seem disgusting but in the name of science all must be tested.
NurdRage Man I can't get enough of your videos. It's like Brain Food.
Dry urine.
A++ would recover Copper from Ferric Chloride Etchant again
Is this a reupload?
What can I do with this?
FisherTwelve make more circuit boards with the copper, and then etch them using the same copper chloride that you recovered the copper from
Convert hours of time into pennies of additional chemical solution.
:O My lab has a large amount of left over ferric chloride etchant. We physicists at the lab had no idea it could be recycled XD
is more convenient and easy, to recover copper and ferric chloride,at same time, making an electrolitic cell with diaphragm, in one compartiment. 50%hydrocloric acid and in the other the waste ferric chloride,,,,electrodes made from graphite and a thin foil of cooper.,current density about 10 amp/inch2,,,,remember 96500 coulomb=1 mol of copper.=63 grs
Nurdrage is a girl :o
nognog nog I am 90% sure that you are right.
Noooo
nognog nog I have recovered original voice by pitching down audio and he did not sounded like a girl. btw no additional waist chemicals have been produced during conversion.
No nurd rage is a man I assure you
Definitely a man... Look at the dry ice video... And the sweater is not a clear indicator that Nurdrage is a woman.
Is that his natural voice?
NurdRage for a greener world?
Nice sweater
I am going to start the war now.
Ahem,ponies
this guy reminds me of nighthawkinlight
I read that Ferric Chloride can be made to etch faster by addition of Citric Acid to make a solution called 'Edinburgh Etch'.
I'm very curious to know if you've heard of this technique and if you could possibly talk about the mechanism of action and efficacy?
Love your channel btw, wish there was a subscriber level in patreon that would get us in more direct contact with you for this sort of discussion.
Be well
Hey NurdRage. I've been watching your videos for a while now and I've been thinking that you should set up a patreon account for your channel. It will help cover for the cost of any lab equipment (I'm no chemist so I don't exaclty know what you may need/want) and also allow for you to maintain a steady revenue from what you do.
2:50 I think it was meant light green Iron 2 Chloride, not light green copper 2 chloride, easy mistake damn chloride tongue twisters
If Nurdrage could recover Copper and Iron, how to recover Platinum from PtCl4 ?!! :v
Raihan Danurdara Dissove it in distilled water and add a more reactive metal with valence 4, such as tin. The tin (IV) chloride should dissolve and the pure platnium should precipitate. Recover by filtering. Lead wouldn't be too good because the plumbic chloride precipitate would make it difficult to separate.
Cyberw4y is there some better method using different oxidation metal ??? :/
Raihan Danurdara Any other method will cause production of chlorine gas, and that's generally bad... At least you need a lot of safety to do it. With tin, you don't need to worry, because tin (II) chloride quickly reacts with any chlorine molecules to prevent the gas from escaping.
If you want to do it anyways, use any other metal and it should work, with the exception of silver, mercury or lead, as these would precipitate along with the platinum.
Cyberw4y ohhhhhh, the solubility. i hope those information works on your experiment :)
Btw, I don't know if platinum is soluble in water. I considered it as not being soluble, but I may be incorrect.
If it is, you have to use silver or lead, and take care of the chlorine gas that escapes. There will be a precipitate of silver chloride or plumbous chloride, filter that then evaporate the remaining water. After evaporating the water, pure platinum should precipitate.
Are you a girl because The sweater sleeve is one that I cannot imagine a guy wearing and your skin is smooth and shiny like a girls
what is a good reasonably priced hotplate a begging chemist could use. i don't want to break the bank but i i want it to get hot enough it will be useful. also i hear a lot of danger about hot plates is it really an easy thing to catch it on fire? i don't want this obviously ha ha.
First ur so cool nurd
Wish i could science
OMG YOUR BACK!!!!!! :D :D :D
why dont you wanna reveal your identity? and what is the problem of giving your SSN to patreon?
cool
Grant sent
Me
hey NR I was just looking at some info on the Journal of Chemical Education on Sulfamic acid (pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ed020p189). Seeing that they reference that it is used to make nitrous oxide, I naturally went to your page to see it. You haven't done it yet, so consider this my request.
Have you tried GofundMe? It's what we used to crowd fund my friend while he was in the hospital for 6 months or so.
***** He had tried crowd funding to raise money for a lab when he switched jobs and could no longer use the lab at work for his videos. Unfortunately he didn't make enough money for a lab space at the time. I am glad he managed to set up another lab. I enjoy his videos.
why do you have your voice disguise you're voice???
Does anyone buy copper chloride?
Now if only could explain these things in a way an idiot could understand.... like me.... I am lost
Plot twist nerdrage is a girl
charley say twice don't do it
Last
nurdrage is a girl?!?
Yeah I still don't understand a shit after almost seen all videos :)
Anyone else think that NurdRage is female?
Pootis
its less enjoyable and it gives you're video less profession and quality