Titus 2:3-6 Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God. Women have to teach as well so no one will malign the word of God
why not do a 5 minute sermon on 1 Timothy chapter 2, where it says that God suffers not a woman to teach ???? See how ya can twist that verse to make it say it's ok for a woman to preach?
You mean where Paul specifically say “I do not...”. It is very easy to see, if you do a study of Paul where he separates his opinions of best practices verses God commanded. It is usually predicated with his “I” statements. With your statement you negate Deborah a prophetess and Judge for God, A woman who spoke Gods truth, for Paul teaching best practices because women were uneducated at the time and without authority in life because of cultural standing. Additionally it is shared that Jesus shared with the woman at the well and she went and shared and many others were saved. Was she teaching?
Hey Mutt...Paul was specifically talking about the women in the church who were still following the goddess artemis/diana (the huge temple devoted to her in Ephasus) Its glaringly obvious if you understand what he states about their clothing and the gold, pearls and braided hair also. He also addresses the correct genesis account and women having children. If you understand the goddess worship in the HUGE temple in their location it all makes more sense! Taking you through the verses... Vs 9 addresses the identification of the goddess worshippers, how they dressed and their elaborate hair styles and clothing. Vs 11 mentions 'assume authority' or in some translations it says "usurp authority' over the husband, this was a common practice of the women to 'control' their husbands by withholding sexual unity to deny them heirs and to make sure the men knew they held the power over bringing life (again all artemis worship dogma). The women would talk over the mens teaching and would spew their female centric genesis account of Eve was created first and then Adam. Hence why Paul specifically corrects the teaching there. Vs 15 is because the goddess artemis was the goddess of childbirth and midwifery and so the women were terrified if they stopped worshipping her that they would die in childbirth (which was another reason for withholding sexual unity with husbands). I really hope this clears up the specific addresses for why Paul basically said 'woman, shut up [with your evil teachings of goddess artemis]'. Rightly so! But please dont be mislead, there were women used mightily by the Lord in scripture who lead the way, who inspired nations and were blessed for their devotion to the 1 true God If you understand the contemporary situations and even secular story writers of the time, Paul and the early church HAD to address specific issues they were having at THAT time. It would be akin to you writing a letter to a pastor explaining that conducting yoga sessions in church is not acceptable. 2000 years into our future what if noone knows what yoga is anymore unless someone looks into it? Yet your letter would be misunderstood in the future to mean that noone is allowed to stretch whilst in a church service or bend over... just in case we are going against that letter that was written about 'assuming certain postures and holding your bodies in such a way' is wrong. WE know what you are referring to...but will they in the future?
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Thanks so much!!!
What a DeLiGhT ...... 🙏🏻♥️🙏🏻
I've been saying the same thing. There's even more to us than what we know,.. and even more amazing, there's more of God to discover.
Beautiful message.Follow God's example.
I’m so thankful we’re not alone! What a joy that we will always be led and loved by God, and we get to follow that example :)
Titus 2:3-6
Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.
Women have to teach as well so no one will malign the word of God
Whats the example you gave? Opro coming to your house? Pls make things legible/Clear. God bless you
why not do a 5 minute sermon on 1 Timothy chapter 2, where it says that God suffers not a woman to teach ???? See how ya can twist that verse to make it say it's ok for a woman to preach?
You mean where Paul specifically say “I do not...”. It is very easy to see, if you do a study of Paul where he separates his opinions of best practices verses God commanded. It is usually predicated with his “I” statements. With your statement you negate Deborah a prophetess and Judge for God, A woman who spoke Gods truth, for Paul teaching best practices because women were uneducated at the time and without authority in life because of cultural standing. Additionally it is shared that Jesus shared with the woman at the well and she went and shared and many others were saved. Was she teaching?
Hey Mutt...Paul was specifically talking about the women in the church who were still following the goddess artemis/diana (the huge temple devoted to her in Ephasus)
Its glaringly obvious if you understand what he states about their clothing and the gold, pearls and braided hair also. He also addresses the correct genesis account and women having children. If you understand the goddess worship in the HUGE temple in their location it all makes more sense!
Taking you through the verses...
Vs 9 addresses the identification of the goddess worshippers, how they dressed and their elaborate hair styles and clothing.
Vs 11 mentions 'assume authority' or in some translations it says "usurp authority' over the husband, this was a common practice of the women to 'control' their husbands by withholding sexual unity to deny them heirs and to make sure the men knew they held the power over bringing life (again all artemis worship dogma).
The women would talk over the mens teaching and would spew their female centric genesis account of Eve was created first and then Adam. Hence why Paul specifically corrects the teaching there.
Vs 15 is because the goddess artemis was the goddess of childbirth and midwifery and so the women were terrified if they stopped worshipping her that they would die in childbirth (which was another reason for withholding sexual unity with husbands).
I really hope this clears up the specific addresses for why Paul basically said 'woman, shut up [with your evil teachings of goddess artemis]'.
Rightly so!
But please dont be mislead, there were women used mightily by the Lord in scripture who lead the way, who inspired nations and were blessed for their devotion to the 1 true God
If you understand the contemporary situations and even secular story writers of the time, Paul and the early church HAD to address specific issues they were having at THAT time.
It would be akin to you writing a letter to a pastor explaining that conducting yoga sessions in church is not acceptable.
2000 years into our future what if noone knows what yoga is anymore unless someone looks into it?
Yet your letter would be misunderstood in the future to mean that noone is allowed to stretch whilst in a church service or bend over... just in case we are going against that letter that was written about 'assuming certain postures and holding your bodies in such a way' is wrong. WE know what you are referring to...but will they in the future?
Can you imagine Jesus Christ telling a woman to sit down and zip it?! Women are to preach just as men are. Don't confuse 'Pastors' with 'preachers'.