His videos on gun stats are freaking crazy. I mean he completely put every detail, just imagine all the images alone that also shows how he gets the stats. Ace is one hell of an awesome TH-camr
He is great but Imo he missed a really important thing with this, that being is there a cap on ads speed with this gun. Aka can I put on every ads improving attachment and will they all stack or is there a point where I can’t improve the ads any more. That’s something I’d really like to see
The editing on your gun guides is absolutely amazing. It makes everything straight to the point, and always in the same order. Some of these youtubers make it really tough to get to the point, or are there just flexing the whole time, without really being informative. Personally, since finding your channel, my gameplay has definitely went up a few points, and is very much appreciated. I think you have one of the best COD based channels out there, if not the best. Thanks man.
Every time I watch one of these gun guides, I'm torn between being thankful for how informative they are, and angry at how useless the in-game stats are.
Agreed, I think this is showing Ace's preference for groundwar and war zone, I might take this suggestion as a more aggressive groundwar class but in 6v6 17"barrel as well is clearly the way to go.
Agreed. Its not a noticable change in BV and you dont feel that -15% damage range 90% of the time if at all on normal MP maps. And 9 round mags slow you down a lot, I'd rather run mine with 17" barrel, tac laser, assassin stock, stippled grip, and either slight of hand or a different sight (I really like the variable even though it slows me down a lot)
@@cloud_monkey422 it's not bad, I just feel like the zoom level on the variable is 1x less than the zoom on the stock scope and I like a little lower zoom. The variable zoom is like 5x-8x zoom and I feel like the stock scope is 6x or something.
*Important Notes:* -In Core, you can OHKO to the lower torso and above at point blank range. At 75 meters, you’ll need to hit the upper torso and above, which you’ll only worry about in Ground War. -The AX-50 deals *248 headshot damage* at its minimum range in Warzone; this means you *cannot* OHSKO a fully armored/healthy enemy! -If you whiff a shot, it’ll take ~1.2 seconds to *rechamber* a shot (going off of TTK). -The *Monolithic Suppressor* gives the AX-50 more range than usual, at 15% rather than 7.5%. -*“Recoil”*, shockingly, exists on the AX-50. Spam firing it will kick it very slightly up and to the right, but this’ll be exacerbated over range so make sure you’re on target after pulling the bolt. -No, *Sleight of Hand* does *not* improve the AX-50’s RoF. Same thing goes for the HDR. -The AX-50 *swaps* the fastest out of its Sniper brethren. It’s still pretty bad, so this’ll only help you with niche scenarios. -The *17” Barrel* poops out on your bullet drop, increasing it by 30% and reducing your muzzle velocity. You might want to steer clear of this outside of CQC-oriented maps. -*Magazine Attachments* supposedly don’t hurt the ADS speed, just movement. -The *Merc Thermal*, despite claiming to improve ADS speed, doesn’t affect ADS speed whatsoever.
I like with how compared to other TH-camrs you get straight to the point and get the information as fast as possible to us and not everything is a stretch to 10 min with boring stuff
Tae Ymssa renetti burst akimbo spread is so bad you have to be very very close. It’s not worth it and it’s not op unless you are close. Single renetti with burst is better. But the akimbo snake is so op. I took out squads using it lol. With the long barrel it has surprisingly decent range. The spread ain’t too bad either. I think they’re gunna nerf it for warzone sooner or later.
Felzy i feel like the mobility of the renetti is really good. Like draw time and sprint to fire speed etc. Dont need to run amped and can instead run tracker or smth. Also in my experience the renetti does more dps in warzone againt armoured players so idk
I find it really interesting that the damage range and ADS time stats for the 17" Barrel and Mono Suppressor completely cancel each other out. Using them together effectively means you're purely trading bullet velocity for having a suppressor, which is neat.
@@juancheese8903 Depends if being 2 frames faster in exchange for a 15% damage range reduction is worth it to you or not. Personally, I'd rather keep the damage range and boost ADS speed with other attachments.
@@andrewmoore7022 I'm talking about the Tactical. The whole point of my first comment is if you combine the 17" Barrel and Mono Suppressor, your ADS and range values entirely cancel out. If you run the 17" Barrel and Tac Suppressor, you're still getting that 15% range reduction from the 17" Barrel. So the choice between 17"/Mono and 17"/Tac is whether you want 2 frames faster ADS with worse range (with Tac) or the exact same as the stock gun (with Mono).
Knutschel No I mean the bullet velocity is higher. At range hitting your shot matters more than damage, this is the main reason for sniper rifles. Damage is still strong with a singaurd arms barrel, just more accurate. There's no point having high damage and low mobility if you struggle to hit your shot.
First of all great video as always bu what I don’t get about MW19 is that there aren’t more sniper rifles you would actually see instead of a nerfed version of a cult classic a weapon the British don’t use and a gun made by some guy in the Middle East where’s my msr and my awm and the m405a5
Out of the regular snipers I love the AX-50 the most, however there is one thing everyone is sleeping on that's VERY underrated. That being the Dragonov with Stopping Power, you get 10 rounds of one shotting a fully armored guy to the upper chest
For those who don’t know, the .50BMG round is an anti-material bullet. Basically .50BMG will punch through almost any type of cover, I’ve seen a block of Titanium stop .50BMG rounds. Any rifle chambered in .50BMG like the AX-50 & Barrett M82A1 are anti material rifles not sniper rifles despite what video games classify them as.
Best quick scoping is mono, tac lazer, combat scope (this is the key), assassin stock, no perc, and stippled. The combat and the mono combined gives the ax 50 the perfect balance of lethality and speed. Try it
Damn you are an amazing shot bro. Thank you for all your vids. Always so informative and professionally presented. So hard to sit through the other ppls vids.
Ace, one suggestion. Do the Recoil profiles at farther ranges for the sniper rifles. At 15-20m away from the wall of course it's going to look good. This still has the best recoil of the 3 sniper rifles, but no one is going to be ADS'ing with a sniper rifle at a target 15m away and worrying about recoil. At 50-75 m range, the recoil is much more noticeable, especially when you compare the three sniper rifles side by side. I did a recoil test in one of my vids at 50m and at that range you can see the drastic difference between the 3 sniper rifles. AX-50 blows the other 2 away.
AX-50 is my favorite heavy sniper in the game. I run the EBR for DMR duties, which works great for most maps, but the big 50 is great for big maps with long sightlines (Arklov has a couple). Very powerful, very satisfying.
I believe it does that for all guns, and it's not technically wrong, as it *does* increase your actual rate of shots fired in a minute. It would be far less confusing if it didn't change the bar though, the bar should really be purely for cycle speed.
Ace, I know you included it in the big list at 8:05, but as far as the tac and monolithic suppressor affecting ADS time, I think this has been glossed over a bit in other videos. I think its worth noting here that the monolithic is adding more time to the ADS for sniper rifles vs other weapon categories. Most of the time I slap it on because it's a small difference. I put it on the AX-50 and it became borderline unusable when trying to play with it the same way I was playing when I was grinding no attachments.
Definitely gonna steal your ground war setup. But for quickscoping, I'm gonna have to say the 17" barrel, tac laser, variable zoom for better fov, singuard stock, and stippled grip. 9/10 I always get the kill.
Assuming the bullets have a constant acceleration downwards, it would actually be possible to calculate the bullet velocity change from the different barrels based on bullet drop! I could maybe put a formula together to test consistency
But it's hard to measure the length dropped. You don't have a ruler inside the game. Until today I still don't know how Ace measures those "50m" "75m" in multiplayer maps
That works in Warzone but doesn't work in multiplayer. Besides, compared to horizontal distance, the bullet drop is so small that I don't think the accuracy provided by the pinging feature is enough for the job.
My camping setup is the 32" barrel and the 12x sniper scope. The aim down speed is slow AF but I don't have to worry about it when I'm shooting from 300m+.
I actually started using lightweight suppressor instead of monolithic. My reasoning is, I am not losing ads speed (like with monolithic) and about 20 meters of range doesn't really matter on a rifle that needs a head-shot anyway over a longer distance.
AX50. All speed attachments. All snap shots/quick shots. All up in your face closer and more aggressive than the guys with the SMGs. That’s how I roll (in multiplayer unless it’s shipment than I’ll use the kar most of the time) 17in barrel Tac laser Assassin stock Stippled grip tape Focus
Just a little thing on Skill based matchmaking, I don't know if everyone know this, so sorry for pointless information. I have a lot of played on warzone, but only in trios with friends. My second game of solo's, was a 18 kills win against complete rookies in this game. So the skill based matchmaking can be individuall on every gamemode.
One goes boom. One goes gas. One goes thermite. One just kills. /s In all seriousness I would like this as well, been really enjoying crossbow lately, especially in hard-core where the explosive bolt is much more able to kill with splash damage.
He said on his twitch stream that he's probably not going to do it... not enough people use it for it to be worth a whole video and I'd say a lot of people won't watch it as there's no point if you have no desire to use it.
Is there any reason to use monolithic suppressor instead of lightweight in warzone if its a one shot kill to the head always anyway? Since there is no range drop off isn't the decrease in damage range irrelevant?
Do snipers have a max range where the bullet will just disappear? I notice when playing Tavorsk sometimes I will have perfect aim on someone ontop of a very far building but the bullets never seem to hit.
The ax 50 is a 2 head shot kill with full armor, and sometimes wurj 2 plates, never trust the stats, the hdr is the best sniper rifle for long range gunfights, the ax 50 is for multiplayer
How did you get the drop off to 248 damage? I'm running the lightweight Suppressor in Warzone and I haven't had any trouble at possibly 50m+ at one shots to the head. Plus some of my other sources tell me it's always a one shot to the head. I had assumed the video that you didn't get a one shot was a hacker
@@BigShay1977 I did see testing where 2 people kept trying to get into the same match and eventually did, so he either did that or just marking people and killing them and seeing what range they do or don't die at. My guess is the bullet drop threw off his calculations. I think he aimed above the head and hit the upper chest resulting in no kill, but that still doesn't explain how he got the 248 number. I hope he's wrong, so my attachments work as I think they are.
TL;DR Please include differences in time in frames as well as milliseconds. I love your videos and recommend them to all my friends who nerd out about game mechanics too. I have a recommendation: When you include time differences when compared to base time (e.g. when you gave a list of ADS times with each of the attachments when compared to the base ADS time), please consider listing these time differences in frames (at 60FPS) as well as milliseconds! I've noticed you will often do this when the difference is only a single frame, and you did it here when talking about the difference made by each barrel on ADS speed. So please keep that up! That number is much more useful to your average player who hasn't spent as much time staring at spreadsheets as wizards like yourself and Drift0r. It is much easier for me to retain and then tell my friends that "Stippled Grip Tape improves your ADS speed by 3 frames," than it is for me to remember that it "reduces ADS speed from 617ms to 567ms." Of course I understand why you include both.
This sniper is absolutely beast in multiplayer match. I carry whole team in almost every match. Work as well with burst Renetii. Other sniper guns are very good but ax50 is my favorite sniper gun ever.
as a sniper myself his setup is good but i'd advice that if you are quickscoping use sleight off hand since you want to keep going on without hiding behind cover for too long. I usually also use 7 round mag since it's way better than a 9 round mag cuz you could ads way faster. IMO don't use an AX-50 without any extended mag and all the ads attachments since it ads's way too quickly.
Don't forget to mention that the ax-50 has more zoom compared to the hdr when using base scopes. It makes a huge difference in warzone, the difference is pretty substantial.
There is something i don't understand. Monolight supressor increase range by 15% and short barrel decrease it by 15% but if u equip both ur 1 shotkill range in the stomatch is 72m (i tested in killconfirmed splitscreen). This means short barrel decrease a little more or monolight supressor increase less
may sound strange, but these videos could be very easily reviewed at PowerPoint slides! definitely enjoy watching Ace but when I'm tryna come back and find info really quick to compare stats between weapons it can be difficult
The monolithic suppressor on it makes your bullet drop 2 times as good if If u have on the 32 inch at 200 meters or so with no suppressor it is like 1 notch and with the monolithic u can do that from 400 meters to 460 meters to hit a person in the head
I would argue that slight of hand does increase fire rate because if shooting al thel shots at once, you are spending less time reloading, and more time being able to get those shots out.
Unsure if something was changed over the stealth patches But I remember this weapon operating fairly differently in relation to the attachments. Drift0rs tests showed that the stippled grip did nothing, while 9lives showed that it had a 1 frame difference. I guess it's irrelevant in warzone and ground war. But it might make a difference in standard tdm and domination maps.
PuRe Joma The AX-50 is the faster Sniper. He said he usually like the AX in Warzone when moving to counter snipe. The HDR is better for longer team he sniping So for the most part sitting back with the HDR is probably the clear choice but if you like to move a lot and aren’t too far back the AX-50 is a good choice
Finally, we can now compare the two big boi snipers with facts... Ace, can you please compare the focus and presence of mind perks...well, not really compare them, but know how much of an advantage provide compared to standar flintch and hold breath time
So which barrel is the best for warzone? If the 32" barrel has more bullet velocity that means it'll hit the target faster and you wont have to lead as much unlike the singuard arms which helps the damage range by 5%, which is only important on multiplayer because warzone is a 1-3 shot kill sniper unlike multiplayer where its 1 or 2.
The strangest thing to me is how the SA barrel has slightly more bullet drop than the 32" barrel but somehow has more range? Seems like the 32" should have the best of both of those properties, doesn't it? I've been running the 32" in Warzone when I use the AX50. Now I think I'll be running the SA Barrel instead since I already use the monolithic suppressor as well. So then I'll have incredible range but just have to deal with 5% more bullet drop than the 32" barrel which I honestly don't think I'll notice much since I avoid shooting past about 125 meter shots anyways. It just becomes more of a waste of bullets usually. Since their teammates, if close, will have them back up before you can rush. That usually results in them recovering and being able to shoot you just before you get close enough to them to find cover. So I generally try to only snipe withing 50m-125m so the bullet drop will be less of a problem. I'm more concerned with how much range I can get and how often I can get 1 shot downs. I've been dealing with bullet drop and velocity in BR's now for about 4 years, so it's not that hard for me to compensate for anymore. Especially with info like this that helps me to make more informed decisions in combat and when setting up the classes. Thanks again Ace! You always bring great info to the front lines ;)
@@Reyalegro 16 Ms is like a frame. Like I said if I want the most bullet velocity on a sniper just use the hdr as it's a lot better. How I use it is, I aim in quick and shoot then get back in cover. You're at a disadvantage when you just aim in against an hdr.
@@Lazyfoal Yeah I know HDR is better at that, but still it's only 1 frame ADS speed vs significantly slower bullet velocity. I'd rather have the 32" and I play the same as you describe (quick peeking and shooting). You have to aim higher over the head with the SA barrel to get a headshot, compared to the 32"
@@Reyalegro personally, I like to aim higher over the head, it's what I'm used to. Just use what you are comfortable with. The kar98 with variable zoom is really good if u like the ax50 and it has better bullet velocity. U can try that as well. That frame actually matters to me. I've tried to use 7 round mag instead of stippled grip tape on quads but I just didn't like how slow it was even though it was like a frame.
@@TR0J3NH0R5E i wouldnt go that far, but it has something to do with hus content being narrowed down to CoD. Other streamers like jackfrags for instance with 3 mill subs plays a variety of fps games, hence why his has so many. ACE'S channels doing great really and is up there with the rest
Was really looking forward to this Gun Guide and as always you never disappoint. This is my favorite SR. It is the most versatile and you can really build it to your liking in the Gunsmith. I love having the raw numbers and appreciate you setting the guide up the way you have. 😉👍
Pretty sure the sustained rate of fire/DPS is higher with slight of hand than the extended mags. I haven't measured, only tried for myself... and not being caught reloading as easy is nice. I definitely prefer it on my M14.
The AX-50 is by far my favorite sniper or marksman rifle in the game (even tho I abuse the HDR in warzone). I have to disagree about the 17” barrel being a huge negative on the quick scoping class. Most targets will be close enough when sniping aggressively that I have personally not noticed a difference and if a target is a little bit farther the bullet velocity does require some lead, but not so much that a competent sniper couldn’t hit a shot unless you’re in ground war. Also, the 9 round mags slow the ADS speed down and unless you are going for absolutely ridiculous clips the extra ammo is more of a hinder ace than a positive.
I know the AX50 is the better qwikscoping sniper but I still prefer the HDR. It's more consistent especially if you don't have the perfect aim to hit the upper torso/head.
Or you can hold breath to steady aim. The AX & HDR are about the same when both are setup for long range but the AX-50 will have faster ads speed & faster fire rate.
@@KillerandUndertaker yes but HDR Is steadier , also you are not counting down how little time you have to shoot , so no, often you don't have time to hold breath
His videos on gun stats are freaking crazy. I mean he completely put every detail, just imagine all the images alone that also shows how he gets the stats. Ace is one hell of an awesome TH-camr
He is great but Imo he missed a really important thing with this, that being is there a cap on ads speed with this gun. Aka can I put on every ads improving attachment and will they all stack or is there a point where I can’t improve the ads any more. That’s something I’d really like to see
@@TehCoD1KNifER15 knowing that point is critical for not wasting attachments and getting consequently unnecessary cons.
@@TehCoD1KNifER15 I'd love to know what that limit is for everything. Should probably be its own video just listing all the guns.
The best
That is why i leave a like to his videos, ton of work 👌
Is it just me or is there a slight buzzing in the audio?
probably because he's in norway now
I don't hear it...
I thought I was losing my head, I thought my charger was cooking, nice to hear I’m not the only one
I just assumed it was my headphones lol, it's only on some bits idk
Came to the comments just to see if i was hearing things
The editing on your gun guides is absolutely amazing. It makes everything straight to the point, and always in the same order. Some of these youtubers make it really tough to get to the point, or are there just flexing the whole time, without really being informative. Personally, since finding your channel, my gameplay has definitely went up a few points, and is very much appreciated. I think you have one of the best COD based channels out there, if not the best. Thanks man.
Every time I watch one of these gun guides, I'm torn between being thankful for how informative they are, and angry at how useless the in-game stats are.
if you are going to “really” quickscope -
playing shoot house etc use the 17” barrel as it’s not noticeable the change in bullet velocity
Agreed, I think this is showing Ace's preference for groundwar and war zone, I might take this suggestion as a more aggressive groundwar class but in 6v6 17"barrel as well is clearly the way to go.
Agreed. Its not a noticable change in BV and you dont feel that -15% damage range 90% of the time if at all on normal MP maps. And 9 round mags slow you down a lot, I'd rather run mine with 17" barrel, tac laser, assassin stock, stippled grip, and either slight of hand or a different sight (I really like the variable even though it slows me down a lot)
Agreed his aim down is still slower and if you center properly and hold breath it kill just fine
i_1nf0din I like the stock scope honestly haha
@@cloud_monkey422 it's not bad, I just feel like the zoom level on the variable is 1x less than the zoom on the stock scope and I like a little lower zoom. The variable zoom is like 5x-8x zoom and I feel like the stock scope is 6x or something.
Extended mags starter pack:
-ADS Speed
Aim Down Sight
No Measureable Change
Ikr 😂😂
They really should have a slower reload speed. That's how it works almost universally.
Great sniping weapon but I wish the Barrett .50 Cal or Intervention was added to this game. Xp
You and literally everyone else😂I want my fucking intervention back:/
It will be eventually
@@faceripper77 how do you know?
zero day they know the ppl want it fam. At the rate theyre putting out content i wouldnt be surprised if it comes next season.
Same bro
*Vanilla Stats*
0:21 Damage + Multipliers
1:03 Warzone Headshot Multiplier
1:28 Rate of Fire + TTK
1:52 Vanilla Range
2:21 Silenced Ranges
2:35 Hipfire
2:43 Idle Sway
2:54 “Recoil”
3:11 ADS Speed
3:27 Sprintout Speed
3:42 Ammo Capacity/Reload Speed
4:08 Swap-In/Out Speed
4:20 Movement/ADS Strafe Speed
4:38 Bullet Drop (w/ Barrel Attachments)
*Attachment Stats*
Barrels
5:21 Singuard Arms Pro
5:46 17” Factory Barrel
6:36 32” Factory Barrel
Extended Mags
7:21 7-Round Mags
7:38 9-Round Mags
ADS-affecting Attachment List
7:52 Non-Optics
8:13 Optics
Attachment Combos
8:35 GW/WZ Sniping
10:08 Quickscoping
10:52 Personal Thoughts/Conclusion
Bob The Builder can u fix it
*Important Notes:*
-In Core, you can OHKO to the lower torso and above at point blank range. At 75 meters, you’ll need to hit the upper torso and above, which you’ll only worry about in Ground War.
-The AX-50 deals *248 headshot damage* at its minimum range in Warzone; this means you *cannot* OHSKO a fully armored/healthy enemy!
-If you whiff a shot, it’ll take ~1.2 seconds to *rechamber* a shot (going off of TTK).
-The *Monolithic Suppressor* gives the AX-50 more range than usual, at 15% rather than 7.5%.
-*“Recoil”*, shockingly, exists on the AX-50. Spam firing it will kick it very slightly up and to the right, but this’ll be exacerbated over range so make sure you’re on target after pulling the bolt.
-No, *Sleight of Hand* does *not* improve the AX-50’s RoF. Same thing goes for the HDR.
-The AX-50 *swaps* the fastest out of its Sniper brethren. It’s still pretty bad, so this’ll only help you with niche scenarios.
-The *17” Barrel* poops out on your bullet drop, increasing it by 30% and reducing your muzzle velocity. You might want to steer clear of this outside of CQC-oriented maps.
-*Magazine Attachments* supposedly don’t hurt the ADS speed, just movement.
-The *Merc Thermal*, despite claiming to improve ADS speed, doesn’t affect ADS speed whatsoever.
I like with how compared to other TH-camrs you get straight to the point and get the information as fast as possible to us and not everything is a stretch to 10 min with boring stuff
what’s the best possible ads speed you can get (stacking all ads attachments)?
basically yes
Go find out
@@sumswaggaming yes? Wdym
366 milliseconds, according to Drift0r’s testing.
Also wanna know
There's a buzzing in the audio, mostly noticable in the beginning Ace just wanted to let you know.
Thought there was a bug in my house at first.
@@MrTevens oh ok
Ace do a video on renetti burst akimbo vs snake-shots akimbo please
All you need to know is they can both get one shots and they're both op
Tae Ymssa renetti akimbo have awful bullet spread and recoil so not effective past like 5m, Snake shot still does most of the damage at 21metres
12metres not 21
Tae Ymssa renetti burst akimbo spread is so bad you have to be very very close. It’s not worth it and it’s not op unless you are close. Single renetti with burst is better. But the akimbo snake is so op. I took out squads using it lol. With the long barrel it has surprisingly decent range. The spread ain’t too bad either. I think they’re gunna nerf it for warzone sooner or later.
Felzy i feel like the mobility of the renetti is really good. Like draw time and sprint to fire speed etc. Dont need to run amped and can instead run tracker or smth. Also in my experience the renetti does more dps in warzone againt armoured players so idk
Ace with the AX-50: *10 out of 10, would defintely reccomend*
I find it really interesting that the damage range and ADS time stats for the 17" Barrel and Mono Suppressor completely cancel each other out. Using them together effectively means you're purely trading bullet velocity for having a suppressor, which is neat.
At that point wouldn't you just use a tactical suppressor?
@@juancheese8903 when you dont have the monolitic
@@juancheese8903 Depends if being 2 frames faster in exchange for a 15% damage range reduction is worth it to you or not.
Personally, I'd rather keep the damage range and boost ADS speed with other attachments.
@@BleedingUranium Ahh I see
@@andrewmoore7022 I'm talking about the Tactical. The whole point of my first comment is if you combine the 17" Barrel and Mono Suppressor, your ADS and range values entirely cancel out.
If you run the 17" Barrel and Tac Suppressor, you're still getting that 15% range reduction from the 17" Barrel.
So the choice between 17"/Mono and 17"/Tac is whether you want 2 frames faster ADS with worse range (with Tac) or the exact same as the stock gun (with Mono).
Surprised the sa barrel has more range than the 32"...
This is not true, it is wrong. In every other Test the 32 has more range.
Knutschel No I mean the bullet velocity is higher. At range hitting your shot matters more than damage, this is the main reason for sniper rifles. Damage is still strong with a singaurd arms barrel, just more accurate. There's no point having high damage and low mobility if you struggle to hit your shot.
RYAN BERGEN oh u rite I got it backwards, more damage range but only a 5% difference in bullet drop from the 32"
Just did some research, apparently ax50 can be chambered in 12.7x99mm ammo
Yup. I have to switch it now
Ace’s gun guide series has made getting Damascus so much easier for me
First of all great video as always bu what I don’t get about MW19 is that there aren’t more sniper rifles you would actually see instead of a nerfed version of a cult classic a weapon the British don’t use and a gun made by some guy in the Middle East where’s my msr and my awm and the m405a5
Glad you talk extensively about Warzone too, I know it’s useful to a lot of us
“The Witching Hour” blueprint is a quickscope machine. Plus, it looks great blacked out w/ tan attachments!
Out of the regular snipers I love the AX-50 the most, however there is one thing everyone is sleeping on that's VERY underrated. That being the Dragonov with Stopping Power, you get 10 rounds of one shotting a fully armored guy to the upper chest
ew
SKS does the same thing, but better. Bigger mag, faster fire rate, and it's the not crappy dragonov.
I looked up this video because I was getting hit markers on ground war from long distances. I came for the ranges but I got so much more. 🖤
The 17” barrel is for multiplayer quick scoping I swap the scope personally to the 3.5 cronan and use the granulated grip tape over focus
Ace, how much would my bullet velocity be increased if I use a 32’ barrel and a monolithic?
Monolithic dont effect bullet velocity
Monolithic does increase bullet velocity about 15%
Glad I subscribed to this channel - finally got to see one of these videos within minutes of release!
For those who don’t know, the .50BMG round is an anti-material bullet. Basically .50BMG will punch through almost any type of cover, I’ve seen a block of Titanium stop .50BMG rounds. Any rifle chambered in .50BMG like the AX-50 & Barrett M82A1 are anti material rifles not sniper rifles despite what video games classify them as.
YOUR WRONG DO YOUR RESEARCH!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_International_AX50
Thank you for putting in the time to experiment and thanks for sharing all this good stuff with us
We need the HDR next!
Best quick scoping is mono, tac lazer, combat scope (this is the key), assassin stock, no perc, and stippled. The combat and the mono combined gives the ax 50 the perfect balance of lethality and speed. Try it
Damn you are an amazing shot bro. Thank you for all your vids. Always so informative and professionally presented. So hard to sit through the other ppls vids.
His HDR video says that headshot with HDR always does 250 in Warzone, so does the AX-50 actually do less damage?
Of course
No it does 250 too
@@michaeljr4085 ur wrong idiot
hewhoknowseverything it does less damage fucking moron
@@michaeljr4085 So you're saying the AX-50 doesn't do 250 damage to the head in Warzone?
Watching this videos, “yeah i’ll use the sniper now”, starting MW, Gets 6/28 KD...
Happened to me initially. Now I usually get a 0.8-1.1 KD as long as SBMM doesn't toss me into a highly skilled lobby.
Ace, one suggestion. Do the Recoil profiles at farther ranges for the sniper rifles. At 15-20m away from the wall of course it's going to look good. This still has the best recoil of the 3 sniper rifles, but no one is going to be ADS'ing with a sniper rifle at a target 15m away and worrying about recoil. At 50-75 m range, the recoil is much more noticeable, especially when you compare the three sniper rifles side by side. I did a recoil test in one of my vids at 50m and at that range you can see the drastic difference between the 3 sniper rifles. AX-50 blows the other 2 away.
This is my favourite sniper. Was one of the first guns I got gold Camo for. Will be trying for obsidian next 😊
AX-50 is my favorite heavy sniper in the game. I run the EBR for DMR duties, which works great for most maps, but the big 50 is great for big maps with long sightlines (Arklov has a couple). Very powerful, very satisfying.
There is a reason for the sleight of hand misconception, the line stats in game actually show sleight of hand increasing fire rate
I believe it does that for all guns, and it's not technically wrong, as it *does* increase your actual rate of shots fired in a minute. It would be far less confusing if it didn't change the bar though, the bar should really be purely for cycle speed.
@@BleedingUranium it does do it for all, bit confusing to some
Ace, I know you included it in the big list at 8:05, but as far as the tac and monolithic suppressor affecting ADS time, I think this has been glossed over a bit in other videos. I think its worth noting here that the monolithic is adding more time to the ADS for sniper rifles vs other weapon categories. Most of the time I slap it on because it's a small difference. I put it on the AX-50 and it became borderline unusable when trying to play with it the same way I was playing when I was grinding no attachments.
Pretty much every thing is like this, just flat out worse stats for snipers.
Definitely gonna steal your ground war setup. But for quickscoping, I'm gonna have to say the 17" barrel, tac laser, variable zoom for better fov, singuard stock, and stippled grip. 9/10 I always get the kill.
AX-50 AKA The fast one shot that gets you back to your spawn 😂😂.
Assuming the bullets have a constant acceleration downwards, it would actually be possible to calculate the bullet velocity change from the different barrels based on bullet drop! I could maybe put a formula together to test consistency
But it's hard to measure the length dropped. You don't have a ruler inside the game. Until today I still don't know how Ace measures those "50m" "75m" in multiplayer maps
@@ziyuezhang4143 maybe pings enemy? Which gives a distanze measurement?
That works in Warzone but doesn't work in multiplayer. Besides, compared to horizontal distance, the bullet drop is so small that I don't think the accuracy provided by the pinging feature is enough for the job.
I run 17" quickscope build on ground war, just get used to the velocity as the 17" has the most effect on ads
My camping setup is the 32" barrel and the 12x sniper scope. The aim down speed is slow AF but I don't have to worry about it when I'm shooting from 300m+.
Why does it feel like using the base scope feel faster when ads than the faster optics?
Becaus it zooms in much more and makes you feel zooming in faster.
More distance to zoom into, therefore the Aim Down Sight animation will be sped up to reach the “fully aimed down sight” point.
@@oscarshen6855 did not know that XD thanks
@@TheNickJames well shit... again didn't know XD
The faster optics are still pretty good (to me anyway) because I'm more of a quickscoper wallbanger and I don't like sniper glints
I actually started using lightweight suppressor instead of monolithic. My reasoning is, I am not losing ads speed (like with monolithic) and about 20 meters of range doesn't really matter on a rifle that needs a head-shot anyway over a longer distance.
With the shortest barrel you can get hit markers on Khandor hideout
I love the AX-50! I have it kitted with the 3.5 sight and distance is no problem with me. Built for speed agility and accuracy
AX50. All speed attachments. All snap shots/quick shots.
All up in your face closer and more aggressive than the guys with the SMGs.
That’s how I roll (in multiplayer unless it’s shipment than I’ll use the kar most of the time)
17in barrel
Tac laser
Assassin stock
Stippled grip tape
Focus
I like using the AX-50 much more than the HDR, feels a lot smoother. But I do finder it harder to hit longer shots with it.
If you use the 'Pro barrel' & the Mono suppressor it's just about identical to the HDR using a similar setup.
Just a little thing on Skill based matchmaking, I don't know if everyone know this, so sorry for pointless information.
I have a lot of played on warzone, but only in trios with friends. My second game of solo's, was a 18 kills win against complete rookies in this game.
So the skill based matchmaking can be individuall on every gamemode.
wheres the Cross bow gun guide? in the works i hope as the bolt velicoty and differences of the effect of the bolt heads i would love to know
One goes boom. One goes gas. One goes thermite. One just kills. /s
In all seriousness I would like this as well, been really enjoying crossbow lately, especially in hard-core where the explosive bolt is much more able to kill with splash damage.
Elgoomtaf did a pretty good guide on the crossbow, give it a look!
He said on his twitch stream that he's probably not going to do it... not enough people use it for it to be worth a whole video and I'd say a lot of people won't watch it as there's no point if you have no desire to use it.
Jarrads 32 I watch all of his gun guides even tho I’m grinding with snipers 😂
Is there any reason to use monolithic suppressor instead of lightweight in warzone if its a one shot kill to the head always anyway? Since there is no range drop off isn't the decrease in damage range irrelevant?
He said it's not a one shot once past max damage range at beginning of the vid, though I've yet to see it in game.
H1GH3r Im pretty sure in Warzone it’s always 1 shot to the head
While sniping long range with the HDR is easier, the AX-50 is my favorite. Best stock scope, and the feel of hitting that head shot is amazing.
I find that taking the lower power scopes that don't glint with cold blooded makes for a great counter-sniping setup.
Finally, I love this gun. Thanks!
Hdr is better
I used to use the Kar but i switched to the AX for QS and i don't get much hitmarkers anymore. Love the AX
I used the smaller barrel in the ax 50 in multiplayer and boy it’s cracked out of its mind!
Do snipers have a max range where the bullet will just disappear? I notice when playing Tavorsk sometimes I will have perfect aim on someone ontop of a very far building but the bullets never seem to hit.
in ur ax50 vs hdr vid u say ax50 is "guaranteed 1 shot kill to the head"(0:25 in that vid) but here u say it can be a 2 shot, so what is it?
The ax 50 is a 2 head shot kill with full armor, and sometimes wurj 2 plates, never trust the stats, the hdr is the best sniper rifle for long range gunfights, the ax 50 is for multiplayer
Just one question, how much zoom does the base sight have? I've been wondering about this to compare to the variable zoom
Should be the same as the standard thermal, as the variable thermal is the same as the regular variable.
Also wanna know
8x zoom
8x zoom. The marksmanships have 7x
@@kyubihakegaru4433 how much zoom has the hdr? X7?
How did you get the drop off to 248 damage? I'm running the lightweight Suppressor in Warzone and I haven't had any trouble at possibly 50m+ at one shots to the head. Plus some of my other sources tell me it's always a one shot to the head. I had assumed the video that you didn't get a one shot was a hacker
I was wondering that too. FOG of Gaming's video comparing the HDR and AX50 said it's always 250 exactly at any range.
@@BigShay1977
I did see testing where 2 people kept trying to get into the same match and eventually did, so he either did that or just marking people and killing them and seeing what range they do or don't die at. My guess is the bullet drop threw off his calculations. I think he aimed above the head and hit the upper chest resulting in no kill, but that still doesn't explain how he got the 248 number. I hope he's wrong, so my attachments work as I think they are.
TL;DR Please include differences in time in frames as well as milliseconds.
I love your videos and recommend them to all my friends who nerd out about game mechanics too.
I have a recommendation:
When you include time differences when compared to base time (e.g. when you gave a list of ADS times with each of the attachments when compared to the base ADS time), please consider listing these time differences in frames (at 60FPS) as well as milliseconds!
I've noticed you will often do this when the difference is only a single frame, and you did it here when talking about the difference made by each barrel on ADS speed. So please keep that up!
That number is much more useful to your average player who hasn't spent as much time staring at spreadsheets as wizards like yourself and Drift0r. It is much easier for me to retain and then tell my friends that "Stippled Grip Tape improves your ADS speed by 3 frames," than it is for me to remember that it "reduces ADS speed from 617ms to 567ms." Of course I understand why you include both.
This sniper is absolutely beast in multiplayer match. I carry whole team in almost every match. Work as well with burst Renetii. Other sniper guns are very good but ax50 is my favorite sniper gun ever.
Ay love the vids keep up the great work 😃😃
as a sniper myself his setup is good but i'd advice that if you are quickscoping use sleight off hand since you want to keep going on without hiding behind cover for too long. I usually also use 7 round mag since it's way better than a 9 round mag cuz you could ads way faster. IMO don't use an AX-50 without any extended mag and all the ads attachments since it ads's way too quickly.
Don't forget to mention that the ax-50 has more zoom compared to the hdr when using base scopes. It makes a huge difference in warzone, the difference is pretty substantial.
There is something i don't understand. Monolight supressor increase range by 15% and short barrel decrease it by 15% but if u equip both ur 1 shotkill range in the stomatch is 72m (i tested in killconfirmed splitscreen). This means short barrel decrease a little more or monolight supressor increase less
That's always been a thing
Maybe the Mono's 15% range increase is scaling off the barrels stats? Just checked it should be 75m if that was the case.
may sound strange, but these videos could be very easily reviewed at PowerPoint slides! definitely enjoy watching Ace but when I'm tryna come back and find info really quick to compare stats between weapons it can be difficult
The monolithic suppressor on it makes your bullet drop 2 times as good if
If u have on the 32 inch at 200 meters or so with no suppressor it is like 1 notch and with the monolithic u can do that from 400 meters to 460 meters to hit a person in the head
I would argue that slight of hand does increase fire rate because if shooting al thel shots at once, you are spending less time reloading, and more time being able to get those shots out.
Unsure if something was changed over the stealth patches But I remember this weapon operating fairly differently in relation to the attachments. Drift0rs tests showed that the stippled grip did nothing, while 9lives showed that it had a 1 frame difference. I guess it's irrelevant in warzone and ground war. But it might make a difference in standard tdm and domination maps.
I love this sniper I run it with the m13 as a secondary and I maxed this girl
Good thing I’ve started using the AX-50 then
Daisho 76 The HDR is better and he has said it
@@hellodumplings8564 lol what the fuck are they identical. Stop talking nonsense toxic garbage.
Got the HDR gold and I just put the AX-50 on, so this was a good time for this guide to come out.
Edward HouDini they aren’t even close tf😂, the HDR has faster bullet travel, less drop off, more damage, etc. HDR is wayyyy better
PuRe Joma The AX-50 is the faster Sniper. He said he usually like the AX in Warzone when moving to counter snipe. The HDR is better for longer team he sniping
So for the most part sitting back with the HDR is probably the clear choice but if you like to move a lot and aren’t too far back the AX-50 is a good choice
Does the HDR also do 248 to the head after dmg drop off?
Don't think so
so at what range does a headshot not kill a full shield target with ax50 full attachments?
My AX-50 setup for it is the Singuard Arms Pro Barrel,Scout Combat Optic,Singuard Arms Marksmen,Bipod Underbarrel and the focus perk
The Bipod barely helps at all you'd be better of swapping that for something to speed up the ads time.
Finally, we can now compare the two big boi snipers with facts... Ace, can you please compare the focus and presence of mind perks...well, not really compare them, but know how much of an advantage provide compared to standar flintch and hold breath time
Can someone explain to me why he's choosing the sa barrel instead of the 32"? The 32" has better bullet velocity does it not?
The 32" is slower
Your my favorite TH-cam I am using all of your information to better develop my TH-cam channel I love your videos keep it up 👍
So which barrel is the best for warzone? If the 32" barrel has more bullet velocity that means it'll hit the target faster and you wont have to lead as much unlike the singuard arms which helps the damage range by 5%, which is only important on multiplayer because warzone is a 1-3 shot kill sniper unlike multiplayer where its 1 or 2.
On PC would extended mags give a measurable reduction in ADS time? Given the higher fps
The strangest thing to me is how the SA barrel has slightly more bullet drop than the 32" barrel but somehow has more range? Seems like the 32" should have the best of both of those properties, doesn't it? I've been running the 32" in Warzone when I use the AX50. Now I think I'll be running the SA Barrel instead since I already use the monolithic suppressor as well. So then I'll have incredible range but just have to deal with 5% more bullet drop than the 32" barrel which I honestly don't think I'll notice much since I avoid shooting past about 125 meter shots anyways. It just becomes more of a waste of bullets usually. Since their teammates, if close, will have them back up before you can rush. That usually results in them recovering and being able to shoot you just before you get close enough to them to find cover. So I generally try to only snipe withing 50m-125m so the bullet drop will be less of a problem. I'm more concerned with how much range I can get and how often I can get 1 shot downs. I've been dealing with bullet drop and velocity in BR's now for about 4 years, so it's not that hard for me to compensate for anymore. Especially with info like this that helps me to make more informed decisions in combat and when setting up the classes. Thanks again Ace! You always bring great info to the front lines ;)
Why do you prefer the SA barrel vs the 32.0" factory barrel in Warzone? If the 32" has more bullet velocity and less bullet drop?
To aim in quick. The whole point of the ax50 is to shoot first.
@@Lazyfoal It's like 16ms ADS difference; that's negligible. The 32" is simply better.
@@Reyalegro 16 Ms is like a frame. Like I said if I want the most bullet velocity on a sniper just use the hdr as it's a lot better. How I use it is, I aim in quick and shoot then get back in cover. You're at a disadvantage when you just aim in against an hdr.
@@Lazyfoal Yeah I know HDR is better at that, but still it's only 1 frame ADS speed vs significantly slower bullet velocity. I'd rather have the 32" and I play the same as you describe (quick peeking and shooting). You have to aim higher over the head with the SA barrel to get a headshot, compared to the 32"
@@Reyalegro personally, I like to aim higher over the head, it's what I'm used to. Just use what you are comfortable with. The kar98 with variable zoom is really good if u like the ax50 and it has better bullet velocity. U can try that as well. That frame actually matters to me. I've tried to use 7 round mag instead of stippled grip tape on quads but I just didn't like how slow it was even though it was like a frame.
Great analysis!
what's the headshot range for warzone ?? please
This channels WELL underated, the man should have 3 million subs
I don't think it's underrated, just people aren't subbing.
Absolutely everyone in MW community knows who Ace is now.
@@TR0J3NH0R5E i wouldnt go that far, but it has something to do with hus content being narrowed down to CoD. Other streamers like jackfrags for instance with 3 mill subs plays a variety of fps games, hence why his has so many. ACE'S channels doing great really and is up there with the rest
Is it true that you don't get this reflection of light that you normally get with snipers with the merc thermal?
Yes. It's a scout optic. Same as VKL, just thermal.
can you do a direct comparison between hdr and ax50
I like using the AX-50 over the Kar98k for normal map sniping. I use the VLK 3X scope, 17” barrel, assassin stock, tac laser, and focus.
Loving the ax50. Definitely the only sniper I use
Was really looking forward to this Gun Guide and as always you never disappoint. This is my favorite SR. It is the most versatile and you can really build it to your liking in the Gunsmith. I love having the raw numbers and appreciate you setting the guide up the way you have. 😉👍
9:15 - now we know that's not true lol as you mentioned in your recent tac laser video
What makes you think that the headshot damage drops to 248? I've always gotten one shots on people even out to 700m
Yeah confused on this one. Other tests show that even the kar downs fully armoured in 1 shot to head at any range.
I would love to see a crossbow guide so I can finally decide what attachments I want for Warzone
Darth Vader just throw your laser sword into them.
@@ArteriusSaren 😆😆
Been waiting on this one. Thanks ace!
Mark Coomes asks ace if he made a mistake
Pretty sure the sustained rate of fire/DPS is higher with slight of hand than the extended mags. I haven't measured, only tried for myself... and not being caught reloading as easy is nice. I definitely prefer it on my M14.
The AX-50 is by far my favorite sniper or marksman rifle in the game (even tho I abuse the HDR in warzone). I have to disagree about the 17” barrel being a huge negative on the quick scoping class. Most targets will be close enough when sniping aggressively that I have personally not noticed a difference and if a target is a little bit farther the bullet velocity does require some lead, but not so much that a competent sniper couldn’t hit a shot unless you’re in ground war. Also, the 9 round mags slow the ADS speed down and unless you are going for absolutely ridiculous clips the extra ammo is more of a hinder ace than a positive.
I know the AX50 is the better qwikscoping sniper but I still prefer the HDR. It's more consistent especially if you don't have the perfect aim to hit the upper torso/head.
Try Variable Zoom Scope(cuz the standard scope zooms too much), The Short barrel, Tac laser, Singuard arms assasssin and Stippled grip tape
For people who want to sit on roof and have a chance against HDR, you gotta use stability stock so it lower your sway
Or you can hold breath to steady aim. The AX & HDR are about the same when both are setup for long range but the AX-50 will have faster ads speed & faster fire rate.
@@KillerandUndertaker yes but HDR Is steadier , also you are not counting down how little time you have to shoot , so no, often you don't have time to hold breath
@@nemanjap8768 You can be forced to waste time with slower ads speed or you can choose to waste time holding breath.
@@KillerandUndertaker I tried both, and how I set up my gun works better
You should try sprays to test shots or even test grouping in the 10 ring. Keep up the good work
What's the general idea on aiming sensitivity settings in relation to sniping. It always feels a little stiff when aiming for me.