I have wasted 7hrs on this level, tried countless times, and still no par score. I seriously fucking quit. This level is literally the ONLY Halo CE level I haven't par scored... whomever at Bungie thought that putting a ridiculous amount of rocket flood in this level was a GOOD idea needed fired and publicly beaten.
Rocket, shotty, ghost makes this achievement very doable. Did this on heroic. Fog, anger, eye patch **Boom and Piñata** skulls on. Despawn glitch didn't work, but the level was relatively smooth sailing, with a few deaths that are remedied by save/quit resets. It is very important in the underground bridge section that you get everything to spawn, because I didn't pay enough attention to the video and sped off to the end, which led to a few save/quit resets with a 2-minute backtrack. Final Score: 27008 Time: 33:30 Total time spent getting this achievement: 7 hours, 33 minutes and 30 seconds.
For those still having a hard time on this achievment it is easier to do the level like you would normally do in *HEROIC* (killing most of the enemies) with the Catch skull on, The Fog skull on (the one that makes you lose the motion tracker) and the iron skull on (you mainly want those skulls for the score multipliyer) and even if you die with the iron skull just immediately save and quit and it loads your last checkpoint. Also the Piñata skull on (as having more grenades is good). *But honestly never use the boomstick skull as the explosive damage is more likely to get you killed, thus making you lose points.* Either way if you want to use this method just play as you would do normally and kiII all the enemies up until the part you destroy the second generator then do exactly what silver did and skip all the enemies with the ghost (you don't actually have to destroy the last wraith, because the wraiths at least on heroic don't pay attention on the player). And then just get to the last generator and that's it. I died 3 or 4 times and got sloppy while doing this (but i mean is a lot easier and more manageable in heroic). And also i finished in 38 minutes and because of that my score went lower *and despite all of that i still got a score of 21k. (Which is more than enough for the par score)* So i would recommend you to do this if you are having trouble on this achievment. Also remember Wraiths on heroic take 2 rockets and Hunters 1 (as i would recommend you to always use rockets and shotgun on this level).
i finally got this achievement after trying for so long and resorting to watching these guides. rocketing the rocket flood saved me a few mental breakdowns. the despawn and the banshee ghost clip make this so much easier. i did it on heroic with boom, catch, fog, iron, and pinata using your methods and the iron skull glitch. having that ghost to breeze through the third chasm and bridge room is essential. really, really helpful tips from this video and this comment. fully recommend to anyone struggling with this as hard as i was. while i still have legendary under 3 hours CE to complete i feel much more prepared for when the time comes to do that. thank you for the strats for what is probably my least favorite halo mission
Used this guide on Heroic with Piñata, Boom, Famine, Fog and Iron (save and quit on death). 24 minutes and 28,000 score. Probably didn’t need all three scoring skulls .
My god this level has sooooo much cancer in it. Going back and getting par score on these games really makes me wonder how they were so beloved in the first place because the frustration is too real with some of these. 29mins and 38 seconds later after like a few dozen save/quits I managed 29,857 points tho which I'm pretty happy about because I would have still beaten it on the old score requirement, but damn if that wasn't void of all fun lol
I figured it out. Don’t listen to this guide there is an easier way. I’ve sunk HOURS into this achievement and discovered the secret. Do the level on normal difficulty. 6 skulls turned on: Anger, Catch, Eye Patch, Famine, Fog, and Iron. Go through the level killing as many enemies as you can. If you die a few times that it okay you can still get it. Be sure to pick off as many wraiths and banshees as you can. Took me 45 minutes and I had around 5 deaths due to those insane rocket launcher flood. Victory will be yours gamers.
I really don’t know how many attempts this took but I’ve literally had so much bad luck from banshees chasing me down and running me over or off a cliff by pushing into another banshee but this rng is pure bullshit. You literally had no random shit happen in this “perfect” run
Got to the part where you need to push the ghost through the door with a banshee. Realized i triggered the checkpoint and the banshee i left behind despawned. My time was almost 20 so I just restarted immediately. So irritating. The library was easier than this
If you’re still struggling with this just do it on heroic with no skulls on. This was the last par score I needed in the game and finally got it on my second try after lowering the difficulty.
fun fact: the two betrayles are cortana stopping you from activating halo at the start and guilty spark turning on you when you refuse to activate the ring
followed the guide minus the shoving ghost thru the door. got it first try on Heroic with 20k points 40min. skulls used: Boom, Pinata, Thunderstorm, Catch, Famine, Eye Patch. when playing on PC Eye Patch skull doesnt really affect u as much
Weirdly enough, this mission was actually pretty easy for me😂 heroic, 6 skulls (boom, piñata, grunt bday party, catch, iron (save/quit), and fog. Finished with 30k points in 24:06. Followed this guide pretty much exactly, just did it on heroic instead of legendary
Haha the name of the achievement is actually a reference to a line in the TV show Firefly "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" The level name is "two betrayals" so...
Yeah, the name "Osiris" is probably a reference, even though it could also be a reference to a lot of other things :P You should watch Firefly and the movie Serenity, they're pretty great.
@@nstorm2415 yeah. Me too. Now I'm stuck on SLASO Regret. You don't know what difficult halo is until you get here and THEN there's Gravemind. I ended up getting all the par scores, honestly I found that I was getting in my own way when I had difficulty with a mission. I was trying too hard make good time AND score with as little difficulty as possible. But that's not how you're gonna beat a lot of scores. Haley's lab cave, for example, you WANT to turn on almost all scoring skulls, and then when you get to her cave steal a banshee ASAP and now stay flying as high as possible and ONLY kill banshees and even Phantoms and wraiths (tilt makes them take a lot of banshee bombs). You can get 1000pts per banshee with enough skulls on and they never stop spawning. Time only matters if you want that time multiplier, but if you have 14.25x skull multiplier you can take as much time as you want. If you are having the worst luck, even turn on IRON SKULL because its a 0.30x. If you die, press pause, Save & Quit, resume game from menu and you spawn at last checkpoint. You will need this trick when you learn to play LASO anyway. When playing for score, play on heroic with most skulls on. But if that wasn't good enough, play legendary and most skulls.
I got this first attempt at going for par score after doing look out for the little guys and leave it where it lay achievements don't see what the fuss is about but it is a long mission and definitely my least favorite CE mission, thanks for the guide anyway Silver just need the par time on it now then on to Keys
Hey silver, keep up the great videos!! :D also, could you do mabye a series on multiplayer mabye something like road to rank 50. Or just casual multiplayer gameplay :)
14:30 I have no fucking clue how anyone got through this using the skulls/difficulty listed in the description. 80% chance I get blown up or the banshees get flipped before I can even get in one, and then everyone and their mother has something that can fucking one-shot you at 14:49. Curse. This. Level.
I had grunt explosions skull for that achievement, couldn't trigger the chain reactions but they were allowed to happen if any grunts were killed by incompetence or flood 😁
I'm surprised how much people hate this level going off these comments. Back in the day, this was my favorite Halo level of all time, I had several friends who agreed. I still feel this is my favorite Halo CE level
@@tredenroseau6718 That's probably true, I didn't find the achievements too bad. Tbh the worst ones for me have been the multiplayer ones and Halo 4 ones. Halo 4 is a pain to play over and over again
I have wasted 7hrs on this level, tried countless times, and still no par score. I seriously fucking quit. This level is literally the ONLY Halo CE level I haven't par scored... whomever at Bungie thought that putting a ridiculous amount of rocket flood in this level was a GOOD idea needed fired and publicly beaten.
agreed
Just run the level as fast as possible and the time multiplier can help you
Combined with the dog shit inconsistent checkpoints makes this more painful
Lmao
😂
Rocket, shotty, ghost makes this achievement very doable.
Did this on heroic.
Fog, anger, eye patch **Boom and Piñata** skulls on.
Despawn glitch didn't work, but the level was relatively smooth sailing, with a few deaths that are remedied by save/quit resets.
It is very important in the underground bridge section that you get everything to spawn, because I didn't pay enough attention to the video and sped off to the end, which led to a few save/quit resets with a 2-minute backtrack.
Final Score: 27008
Time: 33:30
Total time spent getting this achievement: 7 hours, 33 minutes and 30 seconds.
The betrayals are Guilty Spark betraying Master Chief and Bungie betraying good level design. This level is hell
For those still having a hard time on this achievment it is easier to do the level like you would normally do in *HEROIC* (killing most of the enemies) with the Catch skull on, The Fog skull on (the one that makes you lose the motion tracker) and the iron skull on (you mainly want those skulls for the score multipliyer) and even if you die with the iron skull just immediately save and quit and it loads your last checkpoint. Also the Piñata skull on (as having more grenades is good).
*But honestly never use the boomstick skull as the explosive damage is more likely to get you killed, thus making you lose points.*
Either way if you want to use this method just play as you would do normally and kiII all the enemies up until the part you destroy the second generator then do exactly what silver did and skip all the enemies with the ghost (you don't actually have to destroy the last wraith, because the wraiths at least on heroic don't pay attention on the player).
And then just get to the last generator and that's it.
I died 3 or 4 times and got sloppy while doing this (but i mean is a lot easier and more manageable in heroic). And also i finished in 38 minutes and because of that my score went lower *and despite all of that i still got a score of 21k. (Which is more than enough for the par score)*
So i would recommend you to do this if you are having trouble on this achievment.
Also remember Wraiths on heroic take 2 rockets and Hunters 1 (as i would recommend you to always use rockets and shotgun on this level).
i finally got this achievement after trying for so long and resorting to watching these guides. rocketing the rocket flood saved me a few mental breakdowns. the despawn and the banshee ghost clip make this so much easier. i did it on heroic with boom, catch, fog, iron, and pinata using your methods and the iron skull glitch. having that ghost to breeze through the third chasm and bridge room is essential. really, really helpful tips from this video and this comment. fully recommend to anyone struggling with this as hard as i was.
while i still have legendary under 3 hours CE to complete i feel much more prepared for when the time comes to do that. thank you for the strats for what is probably my least favorite halo mission
@@Clacker1337
Glad to know It helped someone lol.
Possibly the biggest slog mission in all of Halo.
Cool
You mean the whole of halo 4 and 5?
Yeah, ngl, I think Two Betrayals is a worse level than The Library
Used this guide on Heroic with Piñata, Boom, Famine, Fog and Iron (save and quit on death). 24 minutes and 28,000 score. Probably didn’t need all three scoring skulls .
My god this level has sooooo much cancer in it. Going back and getting par score on these games really makes me wonder how they were so beloved in the first place because the frustration is too real with some of these. 29mins and 38 seconds later after like a few dozen save/quits I managed 29,857 points tho which I'm pretty happy about because I would have still beaten it on the old score requirement, but damn if that wasn't void of all fun lol
c'mon now. Back in the day you didn't have par score and running this level casually on Legendary, without boom is totally fine.
I figured it out. Don’t listen to this guide there is an easier way. I’ve sunk HOURS into this achievement and discovered the secret. Do the level on normal difficulty. 6 skulls turned on: Anger, Catch, Eye Patch, Famine, Fog, and Iron. Go through the level killing as many enemies as you can. If you die a few times that it okay you can still get it. Be sure to pick off as many wraiths and banshees as you can. Took me 45 minutes and I had around 5 deaths due to those insane rocket launcher flood. Victory will be yours gamers.
I really don’t know how many attempts this took but I’ve literally had so much bad luck from banshees chasing me down and running me over or off a cliff by pushing into another banshee but this rng is pure bullshit. You literally had no random shit happen in this “perfect” run
Got to the part where you need to push the ghost through the door with a banshee. Realized i triggered the checkpoint and the banshee i left behind despawned. My time was almost 20 so I just restarted immediately. So irritating. The library was easier than this
If you’re still struggling with this just do it on heroic with no skulls on. This was the last par score I needed in the game and finally got it on my second try after lowering the difficulty.
fun fact: the two betrayles are cortana stopping you from activating halo at the start and guilty spark turning on you when you refuse to activate the ring
followed the guide minus the shoving ghost thru the door. got it first try on Heroic with 20k points 40min. skulls used: Boom, Pinata, Thunderstorm, Catch, Famine, Eye Patch. when playing on PC Eye Patch skull doesnt really affect u as much
I cannot even put into words how pissed off this achievement has made me
You were right Smith. You were always right.
I honestly don't have the patience or motivation to get this good. Credit to you, man got skills.
Weirdly enough, this mission was actually pretty easy for me😂 heroic, 6 skulls (boom, piñata, grunt bday party, catch, iron (save/quit), and fog. Finished with 30k points in 24:06. Followed this guide pretty much exactly, just did it on heroic instead of legendary
The banshee despawned for me when I jumped out early from it
Using your strat driving the ghost to banshee at the end all enemys despawned on me and the banshee wasnt even there to fly up to waypoint.
Did you kill the five enemies at 19:50 to spawn the others?
Heroic with catch, famine, fog, thunderstorm, boom and though luck skulls on. Did it first try in 42min
That you must of had a lot of points since 42 mins gets you no time multiplier
Video: 22:30 Me: 1:30:00!! These par score runs are a bear!
Haha the name of the achievement is actually a reference to a line in the TV show Firefly "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" The level name is "two betrayals" so...
I wonder it this was a thing to tease buck in halo 5, because nathan fillion is in firefly right?
CosmicTwister yes, and hopefully halo 5 will have a lot of firefly references
nfshalostarcraftrock Hopefully. Fireteam Osiris itself is already a reference, but i will probably won't get them, because i never watched them
Yeah, the name "Osiris" is probably a reference, even though it could also be a reference to a lot of other things :P You should watch Firefly and the movie Serenity, they're pretty great.
nfshalostarcraftrock I will watch it :D
Par score is impossible on this level.
Its possible just move fast and kill all you can
@Da Haagen Dazs i get all of those par scores during my laso run
@@nstorm2415 yeah. Me too. Now I'm stuck on SLASO Regret. You don't know what difficult halo is until you get here and THEN there's Gravemind. I ended up getting all the par scores, honestly I found that I was getting in my own way when I had difficulty with a mission. I was trying too hard make good time AND score with as little difficulty as possible. But that's not how you're gonna beat a lot of scores. Haley's lab cave, for example, you WANT to turn on almost all scoring skulls, and then when you get to her cave steal a banshee ASAP and now stay flying as high as possible and ONLY kill banshees and even Phantoms and wraiths (tilt makes them take a lot of banshee bombs). You can get 1000pts per banshee with enough skulls on and they never stop spawning. Time only matters if you want that time multiplier, but if you have 14.25x skull multiplier you can take as much time as you want.
If you are having the worst luck, even turn on IRON SKULL because its a 0.30x. If you die, press pause, Save & Quit, resume game from menu and you spawn at last checkpoint. You will need this trick when you learn to play LASO anyway. When playing for score, play on heroic with most skulls on. But if that wasn't good enough, play legendary and most skulls.
@Da Haagen Dazs Lol I got 16,675 in 46 mins
16,567 and a time of 51:40
I got this first attempt at going for par score after doing look out for the little guys and leave it where it lay achievements don't see what the fuss is about but it is a long mission and definitely my least favorite CE mission, thanks for the guide anyway Silver just need the par time on it now then on to Keys
Hey silver, keep up the great videos!! :D also, could you do mabye a series on multiplayer mabye something like road to rank 50. Or just casual multiplayer gameplay :)
16.8K LOL. 9 more total in MCC for me... single digits feels great lmao. THANKS SILVER
Best level in Halo
14:30 I have no fucking clue how anyone got through this using the skulls/difficulty listed in the description. 80% chance I get blown up or the banshees get flipped before I can even get in one, and then everyone and their mother has something that can fucking one-shot you at 14:49. Curse. This. Level.
i was 169 short of par score in a run that took me 1:38. fml
Just tried that for the first time and man it was brutal, but I did it, although it took me 40 minutes
The Library is the only par score I got naturally, ironically. Heroic no deaths and without the save/quit, somehow.
Ah I did heroic no deaths with acrophobis skull, that's why I didn't get par stuff as well 😁
But the panel? What do you mean by that? Activate it twice or walk up to it like that?
58 min, heroic, 4 skull activated, 25/30 attempts, finally...
Would you recommend doing the despawn for the "look out for the little guys" achievement?
Good question.
I did and all it does is makes it easier to get past the first part
I had grunt explosions skull for that achievement, couldn't trigger the chain reactions but they were allowed to happen if any grunts were killed by incompetence or flood 😁
Grunt Birthday Party actually does affect gameplay, when the effect goes off it deals a bit of damage to anyone nearby, especially with Boom on.
Does the Bandanna skull disable the par score acheivements ?
Yes, sir! Any skull with a 0.00 multiplier will disable par score/time achievements.
When you accidentally restart the level right at the end and have to start all over
EDIT: Got it the day after 😊
Somehow I got this in relatively one go with about a hundred+ save/quits. Heroic with 11 skulls on lol
The despawning the enemies at the start doesn't work anymore
I did this today. It 100% still works.
@@seanbroccoli2698 It took me 4 tries to get it to work.
If you it it too fast then the door stays shut if you try it again the enemies spawn in.
@@TheBioZombie i just did it the way he did. Counted to two and pressed it again. Worked on my first try.
fuck jackles, man
51:40 and still got par score.
I'm surprised how much people hate this level going off these comments. Back in the day, this was my favorite Halo level of all time, I had several friends who agreed. I still feel this is my favorite Halo CE level
Its only fun if u arent achievement hunting lol
@@tredenroseau6718 That's probably true, I didn't find the achievements too bad. Tbh the worst ones for me have been the multiplayer ones and Halo 4 ones. Halo 4 is a pain to play over and over again
@@no-barknoonan1335 Playing it without killing any grunts on legendary is something else
Literally the worst mission to beat the par score. I have beaten par score on MCC in every mission of every Halo, except this one.
Worst level in CE.....