Interesting video. If anyone is installing an RO system you should check to see if your ice maker has any copper, brass or stainless steel tubing. RO water is void of minerals, has a low ph, and will over time dissolve minerals from metallic components of plumbing and appliances. If you want to use an RO system, look at using a remineralization filter to put some minerals back in the water. The RO system will remove heavy metals, and chemical contaminants, and the RO remineralization filter will restore a small amount of some healthy minerals like calcium, magnesium, potassium. Still great clear ice, with no risk of the water dissolving your plumbing long term.
Interesting comment. Thank you. I guess I have dumb luck. Just went to look at the RO system I have and it's the APEC ROES-PH75 which includes a sixth stage which is exactly what you mentioned- a PH enhancing remineralization filter. It's listed as FL-PHPLUS-QC Thanks again for bring it to everyone's attention. I pinned your comment.
You have an amazing home. I love that your fridge has the cabinets over it. You seem like you appreciate the subtle things, attentive to detail, and driven to learn. Not sure what else is in store for this channel but you got another sub!
Great comment made my day. Thanks so much. I wish I could take credit for the kitchen design but I can't. The prior owners did a full kitchen remodel and then were transferred overseas. At the closing they paid off 125k home equity loan they used for the kitchen so it cost them! Honestly, though- I wouldn't change a thing (other than removing a trash compactor and installing the icemaker). If you want poor quality videos by somebody that tries really hard to make high quality videos, you came to the right place! Thanks again
Thank you so much for this great informative video. I can't tell you how frustrated I've been trying to learn about quality clear ice makers for a home bar redesign we're doing. Appreciate all the time to you took to share your machine that I hadn't heard of in any written information I found! Super grateful!
Glad you found it helpful. Very glad we went with the True. There are so many brands of dedicated ice makers of this size, it was difficult for us to decide also. Really a leap of faith based on warranty and reputation and we couldn’t be happier. The one thing to keep in mind is that it’s constantly running and they need a lot of repair. So be ready and good luck.
I know the guy that invented that for GE , he had the patent on his wall next to the patent to the Cat scan machine. He would rave about the clear ice and show you how it worked and he didn't think the CAT scan was a big deal.
Thank you for this video. I just got my fridge which has a craft ice maker integrated. Water is quite hard where I am and every house needs a softener, which makes ice and water quite salty and really not refreshing. I was wondering if a filter might do the trick, and seeing the model you purchased lasted 2 years already is a good proof that it’s a solid solution. We have a frigidaire ice machine that we fill ourselves with water that’s been filtered by a ZeroWater pitcher and it makes clear ice. Harder to do that process with a refrigerator. 😉
Im still on my first set if reverse osmosis filters. The one I have is five stage, Not 3 like I said. The commercial cartridge is an everpure i2000. It says "not for residential use" but so far I haven't been arrested........ It works great. Thanks for comment
Question: I have a water well pump house about 100 ft from the house (I am second home owner, not original). I suspect the PVC pipe going to the house was undersized. We don't get the best water flow in the kitchen. My concern is if I put in a reverse osmosis filter in either the pump house or closer to the house, that I will experience even more reduced flow. Did you notice any substantial reduction of water flow, or is your filter system only attached to the ice maker?
I’m so sorry that I just saw this. Not sure if you solved your issue already but I did get a booster pump to push the water through the reverse osmosis filter. It works fine but it runs quite a bit. It’s a small pump sold by the RO company that isn’t part of the main water. Just sits before the filters and pushes the water through.
Ok the real question here is, when dumped into a cooler with a 12pack , next to regular freezer ice, does it cool faster or slower?, which cube outlasts the other?, and per given area which contains more volume? Basically which makes the more dense cubes (I’m guessing the clear is a denser cube) and thus lasts longer, but may may not cool as efficiently???
Sorry I didn’t see your comment until today. I’m not a scientist so I don’t know if it cools faster than regular ice. I think the faster it melts the faster it cools. I would guess the difference is insignificant. Really just got this machine cause we had a useless trash compactor in that cabinet spot, and this fit perfectly. We do use it every single day, where we didn’t ever reach into the freezer for cubes before. It’s convenient and the ice is tasteless since the water is highly filtered and constantly replenishing. Thanks for commenting.
Great info! Clear ice makers are great. I installed one in my previous home, as well as dealt with the commercial one at restaurant. I'm assuming your system isn't literally running 24x7? If I didn't use ice in mine, it would just run about 2-3 total hours over that day to keep the bin full. Was also wondering -- after the water comes out of reverse osmosis, it is not going to have any more dissolved solids in it. The TDS is going to be close to zero, isn't it? Or is it higher due to the well water? I would think that the filter after reverse osmosis doesn't really do anything. Would it be better to have that one first so the reverse osmosis doesn't need to filter out as much solids? Lastly -- have you seen the newer tankless reverse osmosis systems? The membrane is larger and it is a self-contained unit, so it is able to provide the water instantly without the need for a tank. Might be able to have something like that in the kitchen itself maybe in an adjacent cabinet.
rodhoutx okay, so a little poetic license was taken with the 24/7 thing, but it runs quite a bit, mainly because it doesn’t make that many cubes at once, and more melt than are made. I never really checked over a 24 hour period, but it’s way more than 75% of the time it seems. Some times it says “full” and it’s on standby waiting for more melt. Definitely not 2-3 hours over the course of a day, even if unused. I bought an electronic total dissolved solids meter. It’s around 400ppm before the reverse osmosis membrane, and around 6ppm after. The only reason I have it then go into the commercial filter is because it has some sort of slime inhibitor which helps the ice maker and I was concerned if I ran it through that filter first, the RO would filter that stuff out. I haven’t seen the tankless system, but if you choose that you have to make sure that it produces enough water at a high enough pressure to satisfy your icemaker. I don’t think the ever pure filters out solids. I know it does scale, chlorine, bacteria and any remaining sediment. That was why I put the ro first. May all be overkill, but the machine was expensive and the water quality in my house with a well isn’t great. The taste is bad, and the filters really make the ice taste like a bar. Tasteless and great. Thanks for commenting.
Nice informative video. We're considering getting the same or a similar machine. What about noise from the ice machine right in your kitchen? Noise from clear ice makers seems to be a significant concern for some people. We've considered putting the ice maker in the basement to minimize noise, but of course that would make use of the ice less convenient. Could you comment on your experience with the noise? Thanks.
Sure. Since its totally encapsulated by granite on top, and cabinets on both sides, its not too loud. There are three different types of noises. 1. The intermittant pump getting rid of water from melted ice. I never really hear that unless i am in the basement. Its pumps for maybe 5 seconds then stops. 2. Ice dropping. Can definitively be heard, also once in a while. The further the ice drops, the louder the noise, so if you use a lot of ice, you will hear it. Its almost like popcorn. Again, intermittant. Lastly is the pump, which pumps water and runs almost constantly, unless the unit is full. At that point everything shuts down until some ice melts. So there are periods of time where there is complete silence. The machine is very well-insulated. You can tell just how well when you open the door to get ice and the Machine is making ice. Sounds like a kitchen faucet running. We have a 2 level house where the bedrooms are all on the second level. We use the icemaker regularly, so the convenience far outweighs the small amount of noise. In perspective for us, we have two subzeros and a wine refrigerator all running in the kitchen also. It doesnt add any significant sound to our kitchen
@@Samlol23_drrich Thanks for the quick response. Such detailed information is very hard to find about these clear ice machines, and it's very helpful in making an informed decision. Sounds like lots of people buy clear ice machines and then regret it later. We're now planning to go ahead with the True. Best regards!
@@algr1887 that is really the main reason for the video. There is really zero information out there on clear icemakers in general, and i found zero from homeowners who had the True. Good luck. You won't regret the purchase.
We've never had any problem. You can choose the size of cubes it makes from 1 to 5 (the largest), so i would suggest the smaller sized cubes. We have a fairly heavy duty blender though so we could probably blend Rocks! Thanks for commenting
Quiet but it’s totally surrounded by cabinets on all sides and granite on top. It about as loud as a refrigerator with the occasional muffled sound of cubes dropping.. our house has an opened floor plan, and you can only really hear it in the kitchen.
Nice review. Do you happen to know if there are any ice makers that have a freezing system built in? I recall some of them do have it at certain businesses from years ago.
Thank you. I dont know of any commercial or residential because then the ice wouldn't melt and would only need to be made as it was used. Right?? And It wouldn't necessarily be fresh
@@Samlol23_drrich i do know of commercial keeping it frozen, but, they're too big. Residential, I just looked t what the man below stated about uline. They're refrigerated. I think it would be just as fresh with that nice crispness frozen ice keeps hold to. Pricey that uline is and I prefer half diced ice. I'll probably end up caving for commercial. Ty
Sorry. You didnt miss it- i dont think i ever mentioned it. True only makes one machine. And the different models are based on panel ready vs stainless steel. Mine is TUI-15- R/L -OP -B (right vs left hinge, panel ready. The Stainless is TUI-15-R/L-SS-B I did not realize that the stainless steel model, besides the door being stainless, also has the interior trim in Stainless ( the part under the ice compartment), and mine is black plastic. Either way i would have gone with the panel ready since i already had a panel made and it was just a matter of installing the panel and trim. Hope that helps
Thanks. It’s this one. true-residential.com/products/clear-ice-machine/ I didn’t realize at the time, but the panel ready model, which I got only has a small amount of stainless steel inside. We wanted that because we were replacing a trash compactor with a panel, so I had the panel made already. The all stainless is nicer inside (if that matters to you). Thanks.
Thanks! You can absolutely turn it on and off, but there us no timer/ delay type of feature. Off, however still keeps power to the unit, since the pump needs to function as the ice melts if you were to shut it off and not empty the ice. I typically remove all of the ice and turn the (dedicated) breaker off if you want it completely without power. It doesn’t take all that long to make ice; if you were to arrive at say a lake house at 8pm and turn it on, the hopper will be full early the next morning. Still no issues, and we use it daily. Thanks for commenting!
Still recommend this machine after a few years? Any idea how many gallons of water it uses a day if you aren't using any of the ice? Thank you for the informative video!
It’s just out of warranty now, I believe. It’s been 5 years and yes, I still do recommend it. We had one warranty claim, where the customer service was fabulous. I had direct contact with a service rep, and without too much discussion he sent someone out to our house with a redesigned part. That was within the first year and it’s been perfect since then. Honestly no idea how much water it uses, but it does operate close to 24/7. Yes, sometimes it stops when it’s full but it’s always melting so it’s not full often. I would never use ice if we didn’t have it. It’s clear and tasteless. The RO water and filter probably help. I installed it myself. From plumbing to panel. If you are in the market for one of these, I think it’s the best. Might be easier to get parts for the subzero, but so far it hasn’t really broken. It will, though. Lots of electronics. Hope that helped. Good luck.
@@Samlol23_drrich thank you so much for the response! Glad to hear that, finding an ice maker has been a chore. My only concern after reliability has been the noise of ice dropping, but it sounds like it hasn't been an issue to you.
@@CH-pp5py oh it makes noise when the ice drops. The more full the machine is (ie less distance to fall) the quieter it is. There is a faint sound of water running as well as the pump runs. We have a lot of noisy items, though. In our kitchen there are two kick style heaters which blow heat fairly loudly. Also it makes probably 20 cubes or less per batch so it’s not for an extended period of time. It 100 percent depends on your setup though. Which way the front of the machine faces, where in your house it is, etc. not a deal breaker at all. It’s something I didn’t even consider, and about which my wife made no mention after it was up and running. Good luck
True Clear ice maker. The exact model depends on if you want stainless or panel ready, left or right hinge. The link is to the site for a panel overlay right hand hinge, which is what mine is. No complaints. Thanks for watching. true-residential.com/products/15-clear-ice-machine-overlay-panel/?finishes=Stainless+Steel&hardware=Stainless+Steel&hinge=Right+Hinge
www.tri-city-sales.com/products/True-Residential/tmf/tui15lssd.html Price varies slightly depending on whether you want all stainless steel or panel ready . Panel ready is less expensive however you need to have a cabinetmaker make a panel to match your existing cabinetry which can get costly bringing the overall price equal or more than the stainless steel door model.
Not that much. I would consider it a real luxury item. We had a compactor installed in that spot, which was a total waste and i wanted to fill it with something else. Also, the icemaker in my freezer broke and due to the layout it wasnt easy to make ice (more of drawers). The only reason it seems like trouble is that i installed it myself. Im sure for 500 for an electrician and 500 for a plumber it could have been something i didnt have to think about. But thats not me.
@@Samlol23_drrich Well, well done for the achievement, and thanks for the video. The biggest eye-opener for me was that the ice continually melts and is re-made. But then a main reason I'd come from Amazon to TH-cam after looking at TH-cam is because in the pictures of icemakers there, I thought the ice looked kind of 'wet', and I'd wondered if they had a temperature control. And so that was the real shock: I thought ice-makers should give the best quality ice. And yet all solid water isn't equal... it will surely take less ice in a freezer at -18°C / 0°F than ice that is barely solid at -4°C / 25°F, which means less dilution of the drink. Unless my logic is faulty...
@@tsuchan Commercial ice makers in restaurants work the same way. Water is circulated or sprayed over a freezing evaporator mold. The pure water freezes first and without air bubbles. It is as solid as the ice from a freezer. Ice doesn't get "more solid" below freezing. The ice bins of the residential and commercial models are never frozen with cold air -- they are just highly insulated so the ice is continually melting and more is being made, hence the ice looks "wet". The ice itself and the cold air coming down from the evaporator does contribute to keeping it cold as well. If you were to put both ice back into a freezer, would their temp drop to that of the freezer? Would it be enough difference to affect the dilution of a drink? Probably negligible amount. I actually have a countertop/portable model of a clear ice maker (Luma model). I don't use it all the time, but it does come in handy for mixed drinks or camping trips, or just when you're in the mood for clear ice.
@@rodhoutx Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to understand, though, why the ice-maker ice wouldn't dilute drinks more. Say ambient temperature is 18℃ and a domestic freezer is -18℃. The freezing point of water is 0℃. So: - the capacity of the ice to cool is the energy difference between those two temperatures isn't it? (let's count in whole numbers and say 35 degrees of difference. - the capacity of the ice to cool before melting is 18 degrees. As ice in an ice maker melts (in-situ, as new ice is formed, I suppose the temperature difference between recent ice and melting ice can't be very much, no? (because of conduction and 2nd law of thermodynamics). I really don't know what's a fair average temperature... maybe -7℃ or so? Anyway, taking -7℃ as a sample figure, wouldn't that mean the ice-maker ice has only 24 degrees of cooling capacity, and only 7 degrees before melting?
@@tsuchan I think there is a slight difference too, but maybe not the full 18 degrees unless the ice has been frozen for a few days. As an unscientific experiment today I put a cup of water in the freezer with a thermometer in it right after I wrote that comment. It froze solid at 0℃. After a few more hours, the thermometer was reading the temp of the freezer (-18 C). When I took the cup out of the freezer, the temp was back up to 0 C after about 5 minutes and the ice was melting (so the thermometer reading freezer temp could be an error since the exposed area was in the freezer itself) - I need a way to totally submerge the thermometer AND still see the temp. I agree that the temp WOULD have continued to drop below zero, but slowly. If the ice is used within a few hours of it being created, it will probably be the same temp of the ice formed by the ice maker: 0 C. Having use clear ice from different kinds of ice makers -- the True ice in this video (Top Hat) brings the drink temp down noticably slower and lasts longer than the ice made by Kitchen Aid clear ice makers (which are the small rectangles with a LOT of surface area), but that's a function of surface area.
Interesting video. If anyone is installing an RO system you should check to see if your ice maker has any copper, brass or stainless steel tubing. RO water is void of minerals, has a low ph, and will over time dissolve minerals from metallic components of plumbing and appliances. If you want to use an RO system, look at using a remineralization filter to put some minerals back in the water. The RO system will remove heavy metals, and chemical contaminants, and the RO remineralization filter will restore a small amount of some healthy minerals like calcium, magnesium, potassium. Still great clear ice, with no risk of the water dissolving your plumbing long term.
Interesting comment. Thank you. I guess I have dumb luck. Just went to look at the RO system I have and it's the APEC ROES-PH75 which includes a sixth stage which is exactly what you mentioned- a PH enhancing remineralization filter.
It's listed as FL-PHPLUS-QC
Thanks again for bring it to everyone's attention. I pinned your comment.
You take your ice seriously. I like the way you think.
Dirty Bay Adventures as someone once said......Ice, Ice, Baby!
You have an amazing home. I love that your fridge has the cabinets over it. You seem like you appreciate the subtle things, attentive to detail, and driven to learn. Not sure what else is in store for this channel but you got another sub!
Great comment made my day. Thanks so much. I wish I could take credit for the kitchen design but I can't. The prior owners did a full kitchen remodel and then were transferred overseas. At the closing they paid off 125k home equity loan they used for the kitchen so it cost them!
Honestly, though- I wouldn't change a thing (other than removing a trash compactor and installing the icemaker).
If you want poor quality videos by somebody that tries really hard to make high quality videos, you came to the right place!
Thanks again
Thank you so much for this great informative video. I can't tell you how frustrated I've been trying to learn about quality clear ice makers for a home bar redesign we're doing. Appreciate all the time to you took to share your machine that I hadn't heard of in any written information I found! Super grateful!
Glad you found it helpful. Very glad we went with the True. There are so many brands of dedicated ice makers of this size, it was difficult for us to decide also. Really a leap of faith based on warranty and reputation and we couldn’t be happier. The one thing to keep in mind is that it’s constantly running and they need a lot of repair. So be ready and good luck.
Great work sir. Where there’s a will there’s a way. Really dig your setup. Those icy beverages must taste that much better.
Great video really looking forward to getting one of these in my new home.
*woahhhh*
That looks so cool!
MidnightWolfy not only cool- COLD!
Literally
I know the guy that invented that for GE , he had the patent on his wall next to the patent to the Cat scan machine. He would rave about the clear ice and show you how it worked and he didn't think the CAT scan was a big deal.
ok... he might be into ice or he couldnt explain the CAT scan to most people hence the ice maker became the piece to talk about
Amazing kitchen.
Thank you very much. When we bought the house the previous owners had just redone it, so we got lucky. Thanks for watching.
I want one!!!!!!!!!
wow..... GREAT.
Korabum Seira thanks for commenting. Didn’t see it until today.
Thank you for this video. I just got my fridge which has a craft ice maker integrated. Water is quite hard where I am and every house needs a softener, which makes ice and water quite salty and really not refreshing. I was wondering if a filter might do the trick, and seeing the model you purchased lasted 2 years already is a good proof that it’s a solid solution. We have a frigidaire ice machine that we fill ourselves with water that’s been filtered by a ZeroWater pitcher and it makes clear ice. Harder to do that process with a refrigerator. 😉
Im still on my first set if reverse osmosis filters. The one I have is five stage, Not 3 like I said.
The commercial cartridge is an everpure i2000.
It says "not for residential use" but so far I haven't been arrested........
It works great. Thanks for comment
hey very nice video, how much did the ice maker cost you ?
Question: I have a water well pump house about 100 ft from the house (I am second home owner, not original). I suspect the PVC pipe going to the house was undersized. We don't get the best water flow in the kitchen. My concern is if I put in a reverse osmosis filter in either the pump house or closer to the house, that I will experience even more reduced flow. Did you notice any substantial reduction of water flow, or is your filter system only attached to the ice maker?
I’m so sorry that I just saw this. Not sure if you solved your issue already but I did get a booster pump to push the water through the reverse osmosis filter. It works fine but it runs quite a bit. It’s a small pump sold by the RO company that isn’t part of the main water. Just sits before the filters and pushes the water through.
Ok the real question here is, when dumped into a cooler with a 12pack , next to regular freezer ice, does it cool faster or slower?, which cube outlasts the other?, and per given area which contains more volume? Basically which makes the more dense cubes (I’m guessing the clear is a denser cube) and thus lasts longer, but may may not cool as efficiently???
Sorry I didn’t see your comment until today. I’m not a scientist so I don’t know if it cools faster than regular ice. I think the faster it melts the faster it cools. I would guess the difference is insignificant. Really just got this machine cause we had a useless trash compactor in that cabinet spot, and this fit perfectly. We do use it every single day, where we didn’t ever reach into the freezer for cubes before. It’s convenient and the ice is tasteless since the water is highly filtered and constantly replenishing. Thanks for commenting.
Great info! Clear ice makers are great. I installed one in my previous home, as well as dealt with the commercial one at restaurant. I'm assuming your system isn't literally running 24x7? If I didn't use ice in mine, it would just run about 2-3 total hours over that day to keep the bin full. Was also wondering -- after the water comes out of reverse osmosis, it is not going to have any more dissolved solids in it. The TDS is going to be close to zero, isn't it? Or is it higher due to the well water? I would think that the filter after reverse osmosis doesn't really do anything. Would it be better to have that one first so the reverse osmosis doesn't need to filter out as much solids? Lastly -- have you seen the newer tankless reverse osmosis systems? The membrane is larger and it is a self-contained unit, so it is able to provide the water instantly without the need for a tank. Might be able to have something like that in the kitchen itself maybe in an adjacent cabinet.
rodhoutx okay, so a little poetic license was taken with the 24/7 thing, but it runs quite a bit, mainly because it doesn’t make that many cubes at once, and more melt than are made. I never really checked over a 24 hour period, but it’s way more than 75% of the time it seems. Some times it says “full” and it’s on standby waiting for more melt. Definitely not 2-3 hours over the course of a day, even if unused.
I bought an electronic total dissolved solids meter. It’s around 400ppm before the reverse osmosis membrane, and around 6ppm after. The only reason I have it then go into the commercial filter is because it has some sort of slime inhibitor which helps the ice maker and I was concerned if I ran it through that filter first, the RO would filter that stuff out.
I haven’t seen the tankless system, but if you choose that you have to make sure that it produces enough water at a high enough pressure to satisfy your icemaker.
I don’t think the ever pure filters out solids. I know it does scale, chlorine, bacteria and any remaining sediment. That was why I put the ro first.
May all be overkill, but the machine was expensive and the water quality in my house with a well isn’t great. The taste is bad, and the filters really make the ice taste like a bar. Tasteless and great. Thanks for commenting.
Nice informative video. We're considering getting the same or a similar machine. What about noise from the ice machine right in your kitchen? Noise from clear ice makers seems to be a significant concern for some people. We've considered putting the ice maker in the basement to minimize noise, but of course that would make use of the ice less convenient. Could you comment on your experience with the noise? Thanks.
Sure. Since its totally encapsulated by granite on top, and cabinets on both sides, its not too loud. There are three different types of noises. 1. The intermittant pump getting rid of water from melted ice. I never really hear that unless i am in the basement. Its pumps for maybe 5 seconds then stops.
2. Ice dropping. Can definitively be heard, also once in a while. The further the ice drops, the louder the noise, so if you use a lot of ice, you will hear it. Its almost like popcorn. Again, intermittant.
Lastly is the pump, which pumps water and runs almost constantly, unless the unit is full. At that point everything shuts down until some ice melts. So there are periods of time where there is complete silence.
The machine is very well-insulated. You can tell just how well when you open the door to get ice and the Machine is making ice. Sounds like a kitchen faucet running.
We have a 2 level house where the bedrooms are all on the second level. We use the icemaker regularly, so the convenience far outweighs the small amount of noise.
In perspective for us, we have two subzeros and a wine refrigerator all running in the kitchen also. It doesnt add any significant sound to our kitchen
@@Samlol23_drrich Thanks for the quick response. Such detailed information is very hard to find about these clear ice machines, and it's very helpful in making an informed decision. Sounds like lots of people buy clear ice machines and then regret it later. We're now planning to go ahead with the True. Best regards!
@@algr1887 that is really the main reason for the video. There is really zero information out there on clear icemakers in general, and i found zero from homeowners who had the True.
Good luck. You won't regret the purchase.
How much is the price
Great video. Can you use a blender for this type of ice shape (Top Hat) ?
We've never had any problem. You can choose the size of cubes it makes from 1 to 5 (the largest), so i would suggest the smaller sized cubes. We have a fairly heavy duty blender though so we could probably blend Rocks! Thanks for commenting
How loud would you say this true ice maker is?
Quiet but it’s totally surrounded by cabinets on all sides and granite on top. It about as loud as a refrigerator with the occasional muffled sound of cubes dropping.. our house has an opened floor plan, and you can only really hear it in the kitchen.
Nice review. Do you happen to know if there are any ice makers that have a freezing system built in? I recall some of them do have it at certain businesses from years ago.
Thank you. I dont know of any commercial or residential because then the ice wouldn't melt and would only need to be made as it was used. Right?? And It wouldn't necessarily be fresh
Uline ice makers use a conventional style freezer ice maker which is quieter and it also freezes and holds the ice.
@@Samlol23_drrich i do know of commercial keeping it frozen, but, they're too big. Residential, I just looked t what the man below stated about uline. They're refrigerated. I think it would be just as fresh with that nice crispness frozen ice keeps hold to. Pricey that uline is and I prefer half diced ice. I'll probably end up caving for commercial. Ty
Uline has some of their units with freezer built in. No drain.
Samlol23 what is the make and model I’m sorry if I missed it in the video
Sorry. You didnt miss it- i dont think i ever mentioned it. True only makes one machine. And the different models are based on panel ready vs stainless steel.
Mine is TUI-15- R/L -OP -B (right vs left hinge, panel ready.
The Stainless is TUI-15-R/L-SS-B
I did not realize that the stainless steel model, besides the door being stainless, also has the interior trim in Stainless ( the part under the ice compartment), and mine is black plastic.
Either way i would have gone with the panel ready since i already had a panel made and it was just a matter of installing the panel and trim. Hope that helps
samlol23 thank you
nice review - can you post a link to the one you have?
Thanks. It’s this one. true-residential.com/products/clear-ice-machine/
I didn’t realize at the time, but the panel ready model, which I got only has a small amount of stainless steel inside. We wanted that because we were replacing a trash compactor with a panel, so I had the panel made already. The all stainless is nicer inside (if that matters to you).
Thanks.
Thanks for this video - super helpful! - Are you able to turn it off or set it on delay if you want to?
Thanks! You can absolutely turn it on and off, but there us no timer/ delay type of feature. Off, however still keeps power to the unit, since the pump needs to function as the ice melts if you were to shut it off and not empty the ice. I typically remove all of the ice and turn the (dedicated) breaker off if you want it completely without power.
It doesn’t take all that long to make ice; if you were to arrive at say a lake house at 8pm and turn it on, the hopper will be full early the next morning.
Still no issues, and we use it daily. Thanks for commenting!
Still recommend this machine after a few years? Any idea how many gallons of water it uses a day if you aren't using any of the ice? Thank you for the informative video!
It’s just out of warranty now, I believe. It’s been 5 years and yes, I still do recommend it. We had one warranty claim, where the customer service was fabulous. I had direct contact with a service rep, and without too much discussion he sent someone out to our house with a redesigned part. That was within the first year and it’s been perfect since then. Honestly no idea how much water it uses, but it does operate close to 24/7. Yes, sometimes it stops when it’s full but it’s always melting so it’s not full often. I would never use ice if we didn’t have it. It’s clear and tasteless. The RO water and filter probably help. I installed it myself. From plumbing to panel. If you are in the market for one of these, I think it’s the best. Might be easier to get parts for the subzero, but so far it hasn’t really broken. It will, though. Lots of electronics. Hope that helped. Good luck.
@@Samlol23_drrich thank you so much for the response! Glad to hear that, finding an ice maker has been a chore. My only concern after reliability has been the noise of ice dropping, but it sounds like it hasn't been an issue to you.
@@CH-pp5py oh it makes noise when the ice drops. The more full the machine is (ie less distance to fall) the quieter it is. There is a faint sound of water running as well as the pump runs. We have a lot of noisy items, though. In our kitchen there are two kick style heaters which blow heat fairly loudly. Also it makes probably 20 cubes or less per batch so it’s not for an extended period of time. It 100 percent depends on your setup though. Which way the front of the machine faces, where in your house it is, etc. not a deal breaker at all. It’s something I didn’t even consider, and about which my wife made no mention after it was up and running. Good luck
What is the Make and Model Number?
True Clear ice maker. The exact model depends on if you want stainless or panel ready, left or right hinge. The link is to the site for a panel overlay right hand hinge, which is what mine is.
No complaints. Thanks for watching.
true-residential.com/products/15-clear-ice-machine-overlay-panel/?finishes=Stainless+Steel&hardware=Stainless+Steel&hinge=Right+Hinge
what the maker and model? And price that you paid for?
www.tri-city-sales.com/products/True-Residential/tmf/tui15lssd.html
Price varies slightly depending on whether you want all stainless steel or panel ready . Panel ready is less expensive however you need to have a cabinetmaker make a panel to match your existing cabinetry which can get costly bringing the overall price equal or more than the stainless steel door model.
@@Samlol23_drrich I am looking for an under-counter ice maker.
It seems like one heck of a lot of trouble... how much ice do you use?
Not that much. I would consider it a real luxury item.
We had a compactor installed in that spot, which was a total waste and i wanted to fill it with something else. Also, the icemaker in my freezer broke and due to the layout it wasnt easy to make ice (more of drawers).
The only reason it seems like trouble is that i installed it myself.
Im sure for 500 for an electrician and 500 for a plumber it could have been something i didnt have to think about. But thats not me.
@@Samlol23_drrich Well, well done for the achievement, and thanks for the video. The biggest eye-opener for me was that the ice continually melts and is re-made.
But then a main reason I'd come from Amazon to TH-cam after looking at TH-cam is because in the pictures of icemakers there, I thought the ice looked kind of 'wet', and I'd wondered if they had a temperature control.
And so that was the real shock: I thought ice-makers should give the best quality ice. And yet all solid water isn't equal... it will surely take less ice in a freezer at -18°C / 0°F than ice that is barely solid at -4°C / 25°F, which means less dilution of the drink. Unless my logic is faulty...
@@tsuchan Commercial ice makers in restaurants work the same way. Water is circulated or sprayed over a freezing evaporator mold. The pure water freezes first and without air bubbles. It is as solid as the ice from a freezer. Ice doesn't get "more solid" below freezing. The ice bins of the residential and commercial models are never frozen with cold air -- they are just highly insulated so the ice is continually melting and more is being made, hence the ice looks "wet". The ice itself and the cold air coming down from the evaporator does contribute to keeping it cold as well. If you were to put both ice back into a freezer, would their temp drop to that of the freezer? Would it be enough difference to affect the dilution of a drink? Probably negligible amount. I actually have a countertop/portable model of a clear ice maker (Luma model). I don't use it all the time, but it does come in handy for mixed drinks or camping trips, or just when you're in the mood for clear ice.
@@rodhoutx Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to understand, though, why the ice-maker ice wouldn't dilute drinks more. Say ambient temperature is 18℃ and a domestic freezer is -18℃. The freezing point of water is 0℃. So:
- the capacity of the ice to cool is the energy difference between those two temperatures isn't it? (let's count in whole numbers and say 35 degrees of difference.
- the capacity of the ice to cool before melting is 18 degrees.
As ice in an ice maker melts (in-situ, as new ice is formed, I suppose the temperature difference between recent ice and melting ice can't be very much, no? (because of conduction and 2nd law of thermodynamics). I really don't know what's a fair average temperature... maybe -7℃ or so?
Anyway, taking -7℃ as a sample figure, wouldn't that mean the ice-maker ice has only 24 degrees of cooling capacity, and only 7 degrees before melting?
@@tsuchan I think there is a slight difference too, but maybe not the full 18 degrees unless the ice has been frozen for a few days. As an unscientific experiment today I put a cup of water in the freezer with a thermometer in it right after I wrote that comment. It froze solid at 0℃. After a few more hours, the thermometer was reading the temp of the freezer (-18 C). When I took the cup out of the freezer, the temp was back up to 0 C after about 5 minutes and the ice was melting (so the thermometer reading freezer temp could be an error since the exposed area was in the freezer itself) - I need a way to totally submerge the thermometer AND still see the temp. I agree that the temp WOULD have continued to drop below zero, but slowly. If the ice is used within a few hours of it being created, it will probably be the same temp of the ice formed by the ice maker: 0 C. Having use clear ice from different kinds of ice makers -- the True ice in this video (Top Hat) brings the drink temp down noticably slower and lasts longer than the ice made by Kitchen Aid clear ice makers (which are the small rectangles with a LOT of surface area), but that's a function of surface area.
Link?
true-residential.com/products/15-clear-ice-machine-overlay-panel/