There was a show choir who also did a 9/11 show, the Carmel Ambassadors. They started out with New York, New York, then they blew up the towers with pyrotechnics. Then they put on filthy tattered versions of their previous costumes, by the end they were singing “Light ‘em up” in front of footage of the Navy raiding Bin Laden’s compound. I was a volunteer at my school’s show choir comp and I thought my friend was just joking when he said Carmel had a 9/11 show. It was awful. It’s been 7 years and I still can’t believe they did it. It felt like a 30 Rock joke, I don’t know how it got through so many levels and nobody said no. They’ve since been trying to wipe every trace of that show off the internet, but you can still see it.
Thanks for the shoutout! A very bold yet captivating show for sure, glad I could capture it for history. Probably some of my favorite Infinity Quad Features in this book.
Impressively executed. Bold and creative. I suppose 23 years is “long enough” to wait before doing this for most but it’s such a complicated subject for a piece like this.
No. They did not take it too far. Played "Flight Of Valor" by James Swearingen a couple of years ago for Veterans Day Concert. It was about Flight 93. As long as the performance doesn't mock the tragedy (whatever it may be) I'm all right with it.
I saw this show at the florida circuit premier and this regional, the collapse took everyones breath away every time. Honestly the quietest i've ever heard a gym full of people.
I think that this is partly what marching art shows should be about. Not only entertainment and display of musical virtuosity, but some shows should make people think deeply too. Afterall, it's art!! And this is what art is all about!
One of the best Madison Scouts shows (2011) was a 9/11 show. It is interesting to me how many people had this go right over their heads. I even remember someone on DCP commenting why do drum corps shows insist on having storylines and why can’t they just play good music like Madison. I pointed out their show had one of the most explicit storylines that year, including the collapsing towers done in drill. Just because a show doesn’t have narration doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a story.
That show was one of the most difficult, and important, shows I've been fortunate to perform in. The corps even visited the 9/11 memorial and museum, along with the 9/11 Tribute museum during the tour that summer. We sang the corps song at Ground Zero. Thank you for remembering it.
Was a part of the Deshler High drumline 03-05 & miss my former percussion pals. Just came across this channel randomly & so happy I did. Great stuff sir. I was the only female snare for 9 years til 2007 & my back sure feels it! 😂 37 but would do this all over again, as DCI was one of the best experiences ever.
damn! what a throwback! i had the pleasure of seeing this live with my highschool indoor drumline, and once it occured to me what the subject matter was (which was pretty much the moment the props came out) i thought this show would be a big talking point. it seemed i was the only one who thought it came outta left field. eager to hear your thoughts :)
I have to say, I'm not a big follower of indoor percussion but there are shows that wow us, and shows that put us to sleep. There are themes about war, death, Greek tragedy, etc., etc. Overall this was actually a nice show and musically they brought it, especially for early in the season. Having said all that, the theme is a bit odd and of course not all will like it.
my school was "famous" for doing dark shows. ("famous" because noones famous in HS, but we were also 8 time TCGC PSW champion and 2 time WGI PSW Finalists) Our shows included "This Great Imbalance," about imbalance of power and other things in the world, "All is Vanity," I THINK is about people who are always unhappy, and all we need to "be happy" is more of what we already have. "Trafficked Innocence" WOAH. "Genocide." Just straight up genocide. "Restricted," basically the marching show concept, which was about oppression. People who like NSSH, however, forget that this was the OG show. "Year Zero" kinda confused on this one. Maybe it uses "Year Zero" by Ghost? That would make this a DARK dark show, so I don't know. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" This has sound clips of Hitler, Trump, and the floor is literally a globe that's a red ocean and yellow land. "Only If For A Night" I don't think this was normal, dark show. Maybe F+TM? 2019's show title is probably lost to history I don't think they were champions 2018 or '19, so that sucks. 2020 and 2021 were the same show (thanks, COVID), and oh. my. gosh. "Desensitized" is probably my favorite indoor show that my school did. It's a show about a school shooting, and wow is it awesome writing. 2022 and forward, eh. We won 2022 with "Mirage" which was a show about a mirage... and the mirage was there being... a mirage. The building was real, and I'm upset I was tasked to build the prop they used, which was NOT constructed well. Gorilla tape on flag silks and a frame. Ew. "What About Us," was a show about inequality, which I actually really liked. This year was called "Awakening" and was well written, but after we went to PSO, it kinda went downhill for us.
My schools marching band had these white cones as props for our winter show. But the guy checking it to make sure it was stable and stuff. Didn’t know and thought it was a KKK suit.
Says this video posted 3 hours ago... I am surprised that I saw it so early! I have been working with the Sacramento Mandarins Mushu Crew all week and I am exhausted! Now, a bit of time to relax and enjoy this video!
thank you for showing this. I wish I could have seen it at finals. This show moved me. Also John Campese is an awesome human being and I love anything Infinity does.
100% not far enough. No explosions? Seriously, I like this and any attempt at “art”. Keep the bar high….. I love how these stories are like “hey, look at us, we’re serious! Plus we play loud drums!”.
Hey EMC you should make a video building a drum set out of marching drums. You should use a marching snare drum, a marching, bass, drum, a set of marching tanner drums, and a variety of symbols.
No they did *not* go too far. This shouldn't even be a question. My high school's winterguard made a swastika form during a narrative excerpt of "The Dream Deferred" by Langston Hughes at the end of their show. This was in 1993 or 1994, I can't recall which. It didn't even raise a question or a single complaint! Some not-so-fun facts: 1) Just in the US, the CDC estimates that *over 1300 people die of tobacco-related illnesses EVER. SINGLE. DAY.* yet somehow 2) Altria, formerly known as Philip-Morris Cos., is still a publicly corporation with value. Unlike in Grisham's book "The Runaway Jury" they did not, repeat *not* get sued into insolvency. They're still trading! They're still selling a product we KNOW kills people! WHY?!? After 9/11/2001 we bombed the shit out of Iraq, which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, and after tragically and needlessly losing God knows how many American soldiers' lives in the doing.... somehow we are still on good terms with Saudi Arabia, which very likely *orchestrated* those same attacks (AND much more recently Kashoggi's murder, but that's a whole other conversation). Let's hope fusion power and EVs (non-Musk) get us to a point where we can tell the Saudis to pound sand..... but DAMN. We need to get over 9/11 and move the fuck on. There. I said it.
First for the first time in a while! Also are you ever going to do another costume contest? Me and my friend got third place back during the first and only one haha
In 2003 there was a central Ohio has a high school do a show about he space shuttle Columbia disaster as an exhibition show. It was interesting, I also doubt there’s any videos out there of it.
Hey EMC can you take a look at dci sound sport groups, being in one I'm curious to hear your thoughts on each sound sport group ( note sound sport is allowed to have woodwinds)
Idk what to think of this, but I’ve definitely seen better performed art about that event. My example is Come From Away, which is a musical about the aftermath of that day. They never try to recreate the towers falling or anything that could come across as cheesy, since we all know what happened, and each time the topic is directly addressed it is addressed like a tragedy, with the music only helping that. It seems like this medium is much harder to convey those sorts of emotions through percussion and without dialogue, so this performance left me confused as to what they were trying to accomplish other than say “Do you remember this happening?”
As a current firefighter who was in 5th grade on 9/11, my ptsd is flaring. This is giving me the 343 yard stare. As a drummer, those are some sweet beats but my ptsd is flaring and I now have the 911 yard stare. 🫠😅
Well, before watching the video and having no opinion, remember Madison Scouts did New York Morning, and that was a 9/11 show. But it was both classy and slammin' at the time.
Well done on the tenor feature, you play well as always! Is it just me, or did that feature just spend way more time on the lowest Tom than most tenor features?
Thought maybe they were going to form a plane ✈️ and fly into the tower. Musically is was hard to figure out what they were doing with the pattern. Have you ever judged high school competitions before?
Good morning! This is video 253 of me asking for a drumline gym made out of various marching percussion instruments, such as the tenor barbell, and bass drumbbells.
I really really don't like the culture behind infinity. Just because they did mandatory training for it this past year doesn't change the fact it happened. With that said, I really wish this show had it's day in Dayton. I think they took a really sensitive subject and turned it into something really artistic and creative. I don't think it's offensive at all. I also love the black material coming out of the towers. A ferry nice touch. I just wish this group had more respect for long standing groups like McM.
I feel like chops just don’t go with 9/11. I don’t understand why common core is talking about 9/11 like it’s something in the far past. We were never taught about Challenger exploding as if it was ancient history, like they’re teaching about 9/11 in schools nowadays. This just doesn’t seem appropriate as a way to demonstrate chops. Just like with the Holocaust one, I think some stage directors are a little confused about whether this is a dance show or a marching band. The throwing the “ashes” also looks a lot more like they’re playing with it, I’m not sure what they’re supposed to be representing with that. It also is treating 9/11 as if it was literally only about the towers collapsing and not the massive terrorist attack. The Holocaust one at least felt more sensitive to the victims and the history. This feels just like “buildings collapse, what a metaphor,” like a 20 year old who wasn’t even alive yet wrote this. It’s like they went too far and not far enough.
They should've had the towers collapse in the show, but did more to show that as a united country, we came back, we became strong again and didn't let it destroy who we were. They could've made it about coming back together after tragedy as a community. The ashes always on the floor, as it is something that is never to be forgotten Make it less about the incident and more about how it affected the country and how all of our differences were thrown aside
I think if the season didn't end early the i think they could have done a little better with the visual give 8.6 out 10 for that considering what happened latter in the season but i think it was good i think they try too let people know never get no matter what 🙍 the day that changed America😢
Now I wanna see an indoor drumline show based on Pearl Harbor
Wild
Or the OJ Chase
Or Chernobyl.
Or what happened on June 4th, 1989, as if anything even happened
There actually was one at the TIA Atlantic Coast Championships this year
“There’s been a second marimba”
Underrated comment
The scene is just Eric whispering into Scojos ear. “Sir, there’s been a second marimba”.
THEY HIT THE FUCKING GOCK BLOCK
"Sir a tenor hit the tower"
There was a show choir who also did a 9/11 show, the Carmel Ambassadors. They started out with New York, New York, then they blew up the towers with pyrotechnics. Then they put on filthy tattered versions of their previous costumes, by the end they were singing “Light ‘em up” in front of footage of the Navy raiding Bin Laden’s compound. I was a volunteer at my school’s show choir comp and I thought my friend was just joking when he said Carmel had a 9/11 show. It was awful. It’s been 7 years and I still can’t believe they did it. It felt like a 30 Rock joke, I don’t know how it got through so many levels and nobody said no. They’ve since been trying to wipe every trace of that show off the internet, but you can still see it.
“Went through so many levels”😭
Thanks for the shoutout! A very bold yet captivating show for sure, glad I could capture it for history. Probably some of my favorite Infinity Quad Features in this book.
Impressively executed. Bold and creative. I suppose 23 years is “long enough” to wait before doing this for most but it’s such a complicated subject for a piece like this.
No. They did not take it too far. Played "Flight Of Valor" by James Swearingen a couple of years ago for Veterans Day Concert. It was about Flight 93. As long as the performance doesn't mock the tragedy (whatever it may be) I'm all right with it.
We played that for our spring concert this year! Beautiful piece and fun to play.
@@ALC0890 I also enjoyed playing that piece. It had a lot of sonic imagery.
There were several former members of the Bayonne Bridgemen and Garfield Cadets killed in the WTC collapse.
Oh 😭
how do you know that?
@@threydrey328 Was on RAMD about 2 weeks after
I saw this show at the florida circuit premier and this regional, the collapse took everyones breath away every time. Honestly the quietest i've ever heard a gym full of people.
“Ok uhh back to 9/11 here”💀💀💀
"Collapse" is crazy
the part where they explode😭 who writes this stuff
the writing staff... DUH
Out of touch theater people
What's wrong with it? People need to learn about it. They make movies about this all the time.
this is not the comment to read 30 seconds in
I think that this is partly what marching art shows should be about. Not only entertainment and display of musical virtuosity, but some shows should make people think deeply too. Afterall, it's art!! And this is what art is all about!
One of the best Madison Scouts shows (2011) was a 9/11 show. It is interesting to me how many people had this go right over their heads. I even remember someone on DCP commenting why do drum corps shows insist on having storylines and why can’t they just play good music like Madison. I pointed out their show had one of the most explicit storylines that year, including the collapsing towers done in drill. Just because a show doesn’t have narration doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a story.
That show was one of the most difficult, and important, shows I've been fortunate to perform in. The corps even visited the 9/11 memorial and museum, along with the 9/11 Tribute museum during the tour that summer. We sang the corps song at Ground Zero.
Thank you for remembering it.
9/11 was an inside job.
Reviews show... just casually plays the whole damn feature😂🙌🏻 you rock man 🙏🏻
I remember participating in indoor percussion. We made it to state this year (2024) but we only placed 18/20 in scholastic open A or whatever we were.
Was a part of the Deshler High drumline 03-05 & miss my former percussion pals. Just came across this channel randomly & so happy I did. Great stuff sir. I was the only female snare for 9 years til 2007 & my back sure feels it! 😂 37 but would do this all over again, as DCI was one of the best experiences ever.
This and carolina thunder 1999 are aboslutely insane
damn! what a throwback! i had the pleasure of seeing this live with my highschool indoor drumline, and once it occured to me what the subject matter was (which was pretty much the moment the props came out) i thought this show would be a big talking point. it seemed i was the only one who thought it came outta left field. eager to hear your thoughts :)
I have to say, I'm not a big follower of indoor percussion but there are shows that wow us, and shows that put us to sleep. There are themes about war, death, Greek tragedy, etc., etc. Overall this was actually a nice show and musically they brought it, especially for early in the season. Having said all that, the theme is a bit odd and of course not all will like it.
Dude you’re killing it man I love your vids so much keep it up. Also make more skit vids please I miss them
This is the type of show you'll never forget.
I see what you did there.
“Sir, a second tenor has fallen on the field”
No shot this is real
Oh crap its real
If there’s one thing I can count on it’s emcs transcription skills I could bet myself he could transcribe something so well it’s the exact rhythms
I'm glad I'm watching this in my own home so no one can hear me laughing when the prop towers spew out black paper.
Ngl that trasition in the front ensemble at 8:30 to the dance macabre was amazing
THE MALLETS HIT THE 2ND MARIMBA
As long as there's bands covering other tragedies across the world, it should be fine.
my school was "famous" for doing dark shows. ("famous" because noones famous in HS, but we were also 8 time TCGC PSW champion and 2 time WGI PSW Finalists) Our shows included "This Great Imbalance," about imbalance of power and other things in the world, "All is Vanity," I THINK is about people who are always unhappy, and all we need to "be happy" is more of what we already have. "Trafficked Innocence" WOAH. "Genocide." Just straight up genocide. "Restricted," basically the marching show concept, which was about oppression. People who like NSSH, however, forget that this was the OG show. "Year Zero" kinda confused on this one. Maybe it uses "Year Zero" by Ghost? That would make this a DARK dark show, so I don't know. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" This has sound clips of Hitler, Trump, and the floor is literally a globe that's a red ocean and yellow land. "Only If For A Night" I don't think this was normal, dark show. Maybe F+TM? 2019's show title is probably lost to history I don't think they were champions 2018 or '19, so that sucks. 2020 and 2021 were the same show (thanks, COVID), and oh. my. gosh. "Desensitized" is probably my favorite indoor show that my school did. It's a show about a school shooting, and wow is it awesome writing. 2022 and forward, eh. We won 2022 with "Mirage" which was a show about a mirage... and the mirage was there being... a mirage. The building was real, and I'm upset I was tasked to build the prop they used, which was NOT constructed well. Gorilla tape on flag silks and a frame. Ew. "What About Us," was a show about inequality, which I actually really liked. This year was called "Awakening" and was well written, but after we went to PSO, it kinda went downhill for us.
My schools marching band had these white cones as props for our winter show. But the guy checking it to make sure it was stable and stuff. Didn’t know and thought it was a KKK suit.
That tenor feature was ridiculous!!
Check out their 2021 show during Covid. It has some sick beats
This show is hotter than the 82nd floor of the South Tower!
Says this video posted 3 hours ago... I am surprised that I saw it so early! I have been working with the Sacramento Mandarins Mushu Crew all week and I am exhausted! Now, a bit of time to relax and enjoy this video!
thank you for showing this. I wish I could have seen it at finals. This show moved me. Also John Campese is an awesome human being and I love anything Infinity does.
My senior year show in 2006 was literally just called "Bipolar"... Yeah, I don't think you'd see that nowadays.
"mr perc captain, they hit a second marimba"
Thanks for not clickbaiting us.
Why did that genuinely make me emotional?
My drum teacher marched snare for this and our line constantly makes fun of it
100% not far enough. No explosions? Seriously, I like this and any attempt at “art”. Keep the bar high….. I love how these stories are like “hey, look at us, we’re serious! Plus we play loud drums!”.
Can you do match grip on the snare drum, traditional grip on the tenor drums, and somehow traditional grip on the bass drums
Hey EMC you should make a video building a drum set out of marching drums.
You should use a marching snare drum, a marching, bass, drum, a set of marching tanner drums, and a variety of symbols.
No they did *not* go too far. This shouldn't even be a question.
My high school's winterguard made a swastika form during a narrative excerpt of "The Dream Deferred" by Langston Hughes at the end of their show. This was in 1993 or 1994, I can't recall which. It didn't even raise a question or a single complaint!
Some not-so-fun facts:
1) Just in the US, the CDC estimates that *over 1300 people die of tobacco-related illnesses EVER. SINGLE. DAY.*
yet somehow
2) Altria, formerly known as Philip-Morris Cos., is still a publicly corporation with value. Unlike in Grisham's book "The Runaway Jury" they did not, repeat *not* get sued into insolvency. They're still trading! They're still selling a product we KNOW kills people! WHY?!?
After 9/11/2001 we bombed the shit out of Iraq, which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, and after tragically and needlessly losing God knows how many American soldiers' lives in the doing.... somehow we are still on good terms with Saudi Arabia, which very likely *orchestrated* those same attacks (AND much more recently Kashoggi's murder, but that's a whole other conversation). Let's hope fusion power and EVs (non-Musk) get us to a point where we can tell the Saudis to pound sand..... but DAMN.
We need to get over 9/11 and move the fuck on.
There. I said it.
First for the first time in a while!
Also are you ever going to do another costume contest? Me and my friend got third place back during the first and only one haha
Congrats on first comment! I might do that again in October.
@@EMCproductionssweet!
next time you do a fundraiser thing can you do it in north Carolina, more specifically west Johnston?
Nah, Carolina thunder 1999 thunder did tho, but I do gotta admit the the explosion part was absolutely WILD
Was that the holocaust show?
We NEED a new indoor show from EMC😭🙏🙏🙏
Nice to see u growing out ur beard after ACC's in Wildwood
In 2003 there was a central Ohio has a high school do a show about he space shuttle Columbia disaster as an exhibition show. It was interesting, I also doubt there’s any videos out there of it.
Honestly feels really well done
can you put marching snare wires on a drumset snare drum? it's been something i've wondered since middle school
I love your videos so much and im so sad i cant come to your record breakings because that is the very last day of school 😥
“collapse” is wild
What marching snare should I get I have no budget
My birthday arrived. And I really wanted to come out the that event but I have no clue if it's even possible.
This leaves me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
When will there be a guts and blackpowder themed indoor drumline?
MUSIC CITY MYSTIQUE AT THE BEGINNING HOLY CRAP
Hey EMC can you take a look at dci sound sport groups, being in one I'm curious to hear your thoughts on each sound sport group ( note sound sport is allowed to have woodwinds)
We love you Eric ❤
can you do a review on oak grove high school indoor percussion
Idk what to think of this, but I’ve definitely seen better performed art about that event. My example is Come From Away, which is a musical about the aftermath of that day. They never try to recreate the towers falling or anything that could come across as cheesy, since we all know what happened, and each time the topic is directly addressed it is addressed like a tragedy, with the music only helping that.
It seems like this medium is much harder to convey those sorts of emotions through percussion and without dialogue, so this performance left me confused as to what they were trying to accomplish other than say “Do you remember this happening?”
This is kinda how I felt as well.
You should totally do a video where you see if Chat GPT can write a cadence.
As a current firefighter who was in 5th grade on 9/11, my ptsd is flaring. This is giving me the 343 yard stare. As a drummer, those are some sweet beats but my ptsd is flaring and I now have the 911 yard stare. 🫠😅
I remember watching this show in 2020 on YT and i would have never figured this was about 9/11
Well, before watching the video and having no opinion, remember Madison Scouts did New York Morning, and that was a 9/11 show. But it was both classy and slammin' at the time.
Deeply disappointed the snareline didn't form the shape of a plane
2020 overall was going to be an amazing year. Broken City was on fire.
you should make bongo tenor drums
Love the thumbnail
I won’t be able to make it to said event. Sounds fun though!
Another day, another angle
This got a little chuckle
Can you react to strykes show this year? I mostly just want you to transcribe the tenor feature towards the end
Somebody needs to show this to “Jschlart”
Well done on the tenor feature, you play well as always!
Is it just me, or did that feature just spend way more time on the lowest Tom than most tenor features?
That's my school thier performing at :)
Thought maybe they were going to form a plane ✈️ and fly into the tower. Musically is was hard to figure out what they were doing with the pattern. Have you ever judged high school competitions before?
Good morning video #1 of me asking for Curious George drumming, His animaters took their time and animated really well👌👌👌
Video 3 of asking you for a marching snare drum
Wow dude - it's like you ALMOST know what you're doing!
love your vids eric
you should do a video for Carolina Thunder 1999 with the same title
I love a good story in a show
ONLY " TOO SOON" SUBJECTS FOR SHOWS NEXT YEAR! LETS SEE THAT CREATIVITY GUYS
I really hope DCI approves my pulse night club show!!!( I live in Orlando too!)
glad you decided to keep the bearded look Eric, it suits you
Go Profs!
I’m amazed at how many people would’ve had to approve this
Eric. Eric. Eric. Eric. ERIC!!!!!!! East Coast championships at U of Delaware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning! This is video 253 of me asking for a drumline gym made out of various marching percussion instruments, such as the tenor barbell, and bass drumbbells.
....bruh it goes so hard tho
Naw that’s crazy 😭
I really really don't like the culture behind infinity. Just because they did mandatory training for it this past year doesn't change the fact it happened.
With that said, I really wish this show had it's day in Dayton. I think they took a really sensitive subject and turned it into something really artistic and creative. I don't think it's offensive at all. I also love the black material coming out of the towers. A ferry nice touch. I just wish this group had more respect for long standing groups like McM.
I love the buzz
Can you react to the Kennesaw Mountain drum line 2023 season
I want to see an indoor drumline show based on slavery
Can you make a video where you play one of my schools cadences
What in the Testament
I feel like chops just don’t go with 9/11. I don’t understand why common core is talking about 9/11 like it’s something in the far past. We were never taught about Challenger exploding as if it was ancient history, like they’re teaching about 9/11 in schools nowadays. This just doesn’t seem appropriate as a way to demonstrate chops. Just like with the Holocaust one, I think some stage directors are a little confused about whether this is a dance show or a marching band. The throwing the “ashes” also looks a lot more like they’re playing with it, I’m not sure what they’re supposed to be representing with that. It also is treating 9/11 as if it was literally only about the towers collapsing and not the massive terrorist attack. The Holocaust one at least felt more sensitive to the victims and the history. This feels just like “buildings collapse, what a metaphor,” like a 20 year old who wasn’t even alive yet wrote this. It’s like they went too far and not far enough.
They should've had the towers collapse in the show, but did more to show that as a united country, we came back, we became strong again and didn't let it destroy who we were. They could've made it about coming back together after tragedy as a community. The ashes always on the floor, as it is something that is never to be forgotten
Make it less about the incident and more about how it affected the country and how all of our differences were thrown aside
Video #5 of asking EMC to transcribe the Drumline: A New Beat Cadences
I think if the season didn't end early the i think they could have done a little better with the visual give 8.6 out 10 for that considering what happened latter in the season but i think it was good i think they try too let people know never get no matter what 🙍 the day that changed America😢