FYI to all that reads this, the lens station can be purchased with Rokinon. They are cross compatible. I purchased it to update my Samyang lens. I do confirm it works. Your welcome ;)
Didn't know that in March of 2020 when I bought mine. I ended up buying the Samyang branded station at Amazon UK. Took 5 days to arrive at my front door in Las Vegas which is impressive.
Rented one and shot it alongside the RF 85 f/2 and RF f/1.2 Its a really good lens, but no, its not better than the L. Its not even as good as the L, not even close. But then again, the L is also $2700. So this is a nice compromise but honestly, id take the Canon f/2 over this. Cheaper, lighter, IS, macro and its made by Canon.
thanks for the input! Canon glass will always be very sharp as they are manufactured directly for canon, unfortunately they don’t give resources to third party developers like Sony does, so third party lenses will always be playing catch up.
Also not to forget that, depending on the lense, certain camera features may not be available. For updating you may also need additional adapters that further increase the price. From what I know RF third party lenses are also just EF lenses with an RF mount (so they actually use EF registration numbers and the camera think you just mounted an EF lense). There are many downsides for using a third party lense which buyers should be aware of. For many users that may not matter when considering the price so its absolutely fine. Its just important that people know about that before buying and thinking its just the same but cheaper.
Great review! I owned this lens on Sony then sold it in favor of the Sigma 85mm DN Art. When I swapped over to the R6 I was tempted by the Samyang again but went for the RF 85mm f/2 as I mainly shoot still life with the lens so the close focusing distance makes a huge difference! If the 85mm DN Art comes out in RF mount, I think you’d fall in love with it even more than the Samyang!
Great review! You deserve more subs! I think this lense will be good too for street photography and thank you for noticing the update. Didn't knew that one yet. Handy because I'm switching too, to a mirrorless body.
Really great review. Informative without too much detail. You had some fun and introduced some humour. Gonna subscribe and encourage you to keep going with your channel. Cheers from the UK.
FANTASTIC video. Thank you for sharing! I just picked my new R6 and have been looking at 85’s. This Samyang option looks ideal. Wonder if I can find that docking station here in Japan.
1.4 is the sweet spot on full frame RN. 1.4 prime and 2.8 zoom is as good as it gets for image quality, weight and price compromise. For APSC it's 1.2 and f2 I'd say, but we're not getting f2 zooms for some reason.
I have both the Samyang 85mm f/1.4, have updated it to firmware v3 but I also have the Sigma ART EF Mount and it while heavy and larger, it is a better lens for sharpness edge to edge. Agree overall that Samyang is a GREAT lens but it has shortfalls.
The Samyang 85/1.4 is a great design. It's a cheapskates' delight. I considered buying other 85/1.4 lenses, but this Sigma is already superb. No need to spend more.
I just got this lens and it’s insane. There is no way possible the canon 1.2L is $2000 better. No way. This lens it’s crazy sharp and fast. Paired with the canon R5 it’s amazing. So light too
I bought the Samyang 85mm/F 1.4 EF lens for my Canon R5 to shoot indoor basketball games at my local college. Awesome results and far more inexpensive than the Canon & Sigma lens version.
I appreciate that you included some ungraded images! One concern people had with the FE version, is that it has a yellow/green color tint. is that something you noticed? for a lens that I would mainly shoot portraits with, good colors are pretty important. thx for your video!
thank you for watching! I went back to review some of the comparison shots in my photo library and did not notice a significant difference in color tint, I do know that some people with FE mount bodies have small issues with green tint, this could possibly be the case, but I did also hear that it can be easily corrected with a magenta post correction! Hope that helps!
I got this lens and tested it on low light scenarios for nightclub and interior or exterior night shots. it preforms really good but it have this focus hunting issue when you try to focus on dark homogeneous surfaces also when the frame is busy with people moving. I had hard time to focus when I tried it in nightclub so I had to switch to manual focus.
I like this review. I have been debating whether to get this one or the Canon RF 85 mm F2 macro. My use case would be primarily portraits. I won't need it for videos. Which one would you recommend?
for protraits I would definitely recommend this samyang lens since the blur would be a lot prettier, which body do you have? if you have the R6 or R5, definitely the Samyang since the IBIS would compensate for the lack of IS in the lens
I'm having this lens and it feels great, especially with the small size and weight. However, after using Sigma 85 Art, I have to say nothing beat that lens in term of quality so this Samyang still doesn't get me the feeling of super sharpness. One thing though since it's smaller, I can now afford to bring it with me on traveling, which I would never do with 85 Sigma art before. What's the point of having a good lens but you hardly can bring it to anywhere else, right?
@@Ghost_Samurai21 in the end i bought the Samyang for my R. i tried sigma but it's really too heavy and i Made the return with Amazon. Now im waiting for the Samyang
Looks nice. I just picked up the Samyamg XP 85mm 1.2 quite cheap. It’s an EF mount lens, might need a firmware update for adapted compatibility, but wow! Amazing sharpness wide open, next to no chromatic aberration, and (according to many) generally better image quality than the Canon EF 1.2 L II. Manual focus only, but who needs AF anyway? ;)
nice! 1.2 is definitely another world! it sure looks like a beast of a lens. enjoy!
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Samyang has stopped production of R lenses, I think they don't keeping up with Canon's software updates. I'm curious if the 85 ul still works ok with the new 1.5 update
Great question and that's also something that I am looking out for. It currently works normally on my R6 with firmware 1.5. IBIS works, Focus works, etc.
The FE version of this lens has a strong yellow colour cast, I wonder if this lens exhibits the same behaviour as it's basically the same optical design.
That's a good inference, I have not noticed any yellow hues that destroy the image though I would say the R6 sensor could be compensating it with white balance.
i have samyang 85 AND the canon RF 85 the canon is way heavier and the canon takes sharper images and it auto focuses a tad quicker, not sure if its worth 2k more tho.
I have the EF version on the 5DM4 and its awesome. Im buying the R6 to couple with 5DM4. I hope the samyang will work with the R6 with Canon s adopter.
thanks! I would recommend the Samyang 1.4 only because personally I love the extra stop from the f1.4, gives you that nice creamy bokeh and is an RF Mount so you don’t have to worry about a lens adapter VS an EF.
Hi albert. Buy any chance have you tested/compared this Samyang to a 85 1.8 Viltrox from a different mount? I am wondering how good this Samyang really is. At 2:40 you said two different things: "This lens is super sharp", but then you said "it's sharp enough wide open". So when shooting at 1.4 is it super sharp or sharp enough? I read many reviews about the Viltrox for Fuji mount and people said that this lens was very sharp wide open, but I have been really disappointed because I don't find the Viltrox very sharp wide open, in fact is soft. I didn't know there was a Samyang/Rokinon 85 1.4 in RF mount and I would like more information about will appreciate your input thank you.
Hey Adrian, I've never tried the Viltrox, but the Samyang is indeed sharp wide open, I shoot a lot of portraits and I am always amazed by how sharp it is, I would assume Samyang is a lot sharper than Viltrox given how long they have been in the market (1972 vs 2009). Hope this helps!
Just picked one up. Great lense for the price. Super sharp pictures. I am getting lots of onion ring bokeh though 😟 not sure if its just my copy. I may exchange for another one.
Thanks for the review. I have been agonizing over if I should select this lens or the RF 85 f2. Does the samyang support RF only features like the evf distance scale, the high speed display, and adjustable focus ring sensitivity?
Unfortunately many of the Canon RF features are not available for this lens. Mentioned also in 07:24, this lens needs a lens station (sold separately...also impossible to find here in the States) that does allow focus ring sensitivity, lens updates, etc. However, in manual mode, the distance scale is present. I’d say definitely go with the RF f/2 if the feature is important to you.
@@albertthoughts I’m in Texas I have this lens for my R6 and I have the lens station👌🏾 updated my lens to V3. I ordered the lens station through Rokinon
@@albertthoughts It’s not clear if samyang has truly cracked the RF mounts code. Superficially it looks like the RF but internally it probably uses EF mount software. In the end I went with the RF 85. I just didn’t need the extra aperture stop in the end
@@Russianspyonyou definitely wont go wrong with the RF85! I picked up the RF35 over the weekend with a deal from Canon so will be dropping a video on that shortly, I don't doubt you'll definitely enjoy the RF 85!
This is a great video mate. In comparing the canon 85mm f2 lens with this. While I have not experimented with the lens, I am selling my Canon 85 and purchasing this based on the research I have done. While the Canon 85 has image stabilisation, it struggles to hit the mark in low light situations. The focus breath is a disaster. My old EF Canon lenses with an adaptor respond better with the eye detection and auto focusing modes. I was so frustrated with the Canon 85 on one shoot I nearing took it off my camera body and tossed it over a fence!! Thankfully I kept my cool and I will sell it instead. The colours on this Samyang lens and the creamy backgrounds combined with the razor sharp focal points look incredible. This is just my opinion of course. Cheers!
My problem with this lens is it's lack of image stabilization, so I'll probably go for the older ef 85mm f1.4 is usm since i have an eos rp which lacks sensor stabilization
I ended up returning my copy. When shooting on silent mode the aperture blades had a really loud clicking noise. It was silent at F1.4 once I change f2.8 or f3.5 for example. The noise was really loud and slow focusing.
If you aren’t going with R lenses, why go with a Canon R body? If someone has a Canon DSLR (ie 5d3/ 5d4) with a big set of awesome L lenses, why switch to the R/R6/R5 - especially if they have a very limited R-lens catalog at the moment, and foreseeable future (compared to the vast L library). The only thing I can think of is if you do video (4k video at high frame rate). Can I get your thoughts on this? I’m debating adding a full frame camera to do youtube videos. Full frame 4k sounds enticing, but that’s the only benefit I see. I’d appreciate your help with this. I don’t necessarily have to stick with a Canon, but would prefer to do so because of future lenses. I DON’T like to use lens adapters (ie use L lenses on the R bodies).
i agree with the last part, adapting EF lenses on the R body kind of defeats the purpose of a smaller body, yet it is the best bet right now to have a wider array of lenses available (affordability as well). The R has excellent video capabilities but if you’re looking for a full frame that mainly does video I would go for the R6 since the non-crop will give you better flexibility, check out my video on the R6! I’ve since picked up a couple RF lenses and will be doing some reviews on them soon, stay tuned!
@@albertthoughts Thank you very much for your response. Just had a follow up question - so I am clear, are you recommending that I get the R6 over the R5? If so, I assume it’s because of overheating issues with the R5 (when recording at 4k for extended periods of time)? I look forward to your reviews on the lenses. I’m looking into that as well, so I am sure your videos will be helpful! Regards!
Cut kitty. Thanks for the review thumbs up I was curious about this lens. (sorry if I posted two comments my computer glitched) After looking at the sample footage the pictures and video in this review look really soft and lack contrast. Maybe it's export settings maybe it's TH-cam compression who knows but the samples leave a lot to be desired. Maybe a used Canon EF 85 or Sigma EF 85 with a EF to RF adapter might be a better choice. It might be a good comparison video to check that out. :)
I'll probably be getting this over the Canon 85mm F2. I did really want to get the F2 considering it's a native lens but no weather sealing, no lens hood (not a biggie but c'mon Canon), it's F2 and the focus isn't silent with the STM motor is just too much. I'll take my chances with the Samyang but keenly awaiting Sigma jumping onto the RF mount.
totally agree, with such limited options, the Samyang really shines especially at this price point. but you wouldn't go wrong with it even if sigma came out with their own variant! sigma I believe would price their ART 85 1.4 at near the $1000 range
that is unfortunate, Samyang does make a big line of manual focus lenses and have recently stepped into the AF world. the newer rokinon should have AF as its the same exact lens, I hope your local camera place will order these soon!
thanks for the kind words! unfortunately theres no way currently. theres also no way to check unless you have the lens station which is a bummer. if you purchase directly from rokinon's website, you might have luck finding one.
@@albertthoughts Do you know how this lens work with R6 ? I heard there are some issues with focusing and IBIS Issue ? I'm not sure if V3 firmware fixed all current issue. do you happen to know anything on this issue ?
its handled really well, they've added a UD element to the front of the lens (upgrade to their first iteration) and minimizes chromatic aberrations wide open. there is still traces of CA but its largely minimized.
Unfortunately no this is for the RF mount which currently is only the R R3 R5 and R6. The 2000d is an EF mount and I totally agree Canon makes it so confusing.
@@MrPanthers23 That's too bad :( I know they have lenses lined up to be released, but I'm almost certain there's going to be extra delays. I guess we'll see. 😪
@@KyleCWong what I read about Sigma was they are doing financially well making current lenses. To create a new RF mount costs money for R&D. In this shrinking photography market, Sigma is trying to be cognizant of expenditures, etc... I hope the article is wrong, but who knows.
without firmware 3 that lens wouldn't work properly with R6/R5 so how you could recommend it? Most retailers don't state what firmware they sell it with
Do the minute differences in quality/bokeh/clarity between f/2, f/1.8, f/1.2 really matter to the average Joe or Jane or them photographer like me? I think not. I think it only matters to pixel peeping professionals seeking to eliminate the teeniest speck of noise that most of us would only notice if viewed through an electron microscope. 🤦🏼♂️
If it makes you think buying and selling another lens will improve your photography why not. But if you take good photographs with your current lens why?.
I would say it is rather hard since it is very much zoomed in, maybe a group of up to 3-4 but definitely not more - you also probably won’t need to update if it’s for the RP since they designed the original firmware for the R/RP
I believe if the Viltrox speed booster has a EOS-M to EOS-R mount adapter it should theoretically work, but if they do not, double adapters may cause some problems.
there is an EF samyang 85mm 1.4 AF available and you should buy that if you're interested in this lens for the m50 since you can adapt EF to eos M but not RF to eos M. but you know it will crop and become more or less around 135mm which is not necessarily a problem but u just need to know that. otherwise if you want the 85mm perspective sigma has a 56mm 1.4 that crops to a very similar focal length to an 85mm for EOS M mount. i recommend the sigma over the samyang since you don't need an adapter there. but if you plan to upgrade to RF in the future, the Samyang on EF mount will be adaptable to the RF bodies.
@@vipersrt30 oo yes the IO85AF-C (85mm f/1.4 Samyang EF) for Canon EF, this is actually a different lens and lens structure and I believe does not actually have a ED glass in it which may cause fringing and chromatic aberrations unfortunately, but I do hear that the Sigma 56mm f/1.4 is a great lens, good recommendation! reference: www.samyanglens.com/upload/file/ENG_catalogue.pdf
How can you live with minimum focal distance of 1m in product photography? And how often you take pictures with aperture 1.4? Stopping down to 4-5.6 any 85mm lens gives you spectacular results. And you can buy many of samyang's lenses very cheaply with stacked focus rings apertures not working etc. Just get Canon EF 85mm 1.8 for 200$ used and you are done! And No! Samyang is not even close to Canon L lenses...
Too bad it doesn’t offer IS or have another version with IS that competes fully against the Canon. Once you start using IS lenses it is just hard to be switching up, unless you are using flash.
I haven't personally tested it but I've heard from my pal at the camera store it should work although the EF version isn't really optically similar to the RF, in other words the RF 85 1.4 has more ED (UD) elements that help with chromatic aberration
@@albertthoughts I see. But it shouldn't be that much of a different right? I can't seem to find much review of this newer version of this lens online. I am thinking of buying the ef verison, adapt it to my m50 right now, and upgrade to a eos r line later and adapter it to that camera. I can't adapt rf lens to a m50 unfortunately
unfortunately, there isn't for this series. there is an ef85mm f/1.4 from samyang/rokinon but its not the same construction and doesnt have the ED elements that diffracts chromatic aberration so I would not actually recommend that one. however, I hear great things about the ART series Sigma 85mm which is slightly higher in price but offers excellent image quality.
I was so happy when I got mine paired with my R5. Then I noticed it wasn't always accurate and there is a an amber urine cast to the images. It would have been great if it was accurate.. I sent it back and ordering the real deal RF 85 f/1.2.
unfortunately no, there is however an EF version of a 85mm f/1.4 from Samyang but the structure is different and doesn't actually included the expensive elements that reduces chromatic abberations and flare.
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Canon's color is way better. Samyang has a yellow tint that is noticeable even after post processing. Good cheap lens but that's about all it is. If you're thinking of buying an RF 85mm stick with Canon, you won't have to mess with the color and it focuses flatter than the Samyang. With Canon if you focus on someone's eyes their midriff or the top of their jeans or dress is also in focus, with Samyang it's out of focus. Plus Canon gives you an option of a macro focus, Samyang; doesn't. I shoot only stills so I don't care which one is better at video.
Thanks for the note! I definitely believe Customer support is a major factor that companies should focus on and that we consumers need to look out for. I haven’t (thankfully) needed support yet but it definitely comes at a cost purchasing from third party companies.
This len has problem with the color. It is very difficult to edit the color. There are always have some extra color blend into the photo. Focus speed is very slow! Not my best Len
i havent encountered this issue with the RF version, make sure to update the firmware, maybe the focus will be quicker for you, linear focusing is quite fast for me actually!
NOT. It is not sharper than the RF versions. None. It is also not sharper than the L version. I own the L version, the RF 85 1.2 and also the RF85 f2. And they are still better options than the Samyang. Have you made a serious comparison or is it just an opinion? And let's not forget the most important thing, cheap is expensive. It is not worth acquiring the samyang having the RF85f2 within reach for a few hundred more.
85 Samyang is super sharp? Ehhhh... it's ok... but it's not 85L RF sharp. 85L RF sharpness is on another level. There's plenty of videos out there that show comparison of this. Samyang isnt even close to being comparable to 85L RF. Lets not get started on the bokeh quality either lol.
try getting support....samyang also dropped this lens and the rokinon might do the same....reverse engineering is not the best way of manufacturing a lens....updates....what updates....stay away from samyang/rokinon products at least for the RF mount!!!!
the elements in the EF version was definitely not good given they omitted the UD elements, from what I'm seeing in the manual, this lens seems to be a complete redesign
@@albertthoughts I used the 85mm f1.4 EF for wide-field astrophotography, but the chromatic aberration created me purple halos around the stars.... I hope the lens has improved👍👍
FYI to all that reads this, the lens station can be purchased with Rokinon. They are cross compatible. I purchased it to update my Samyang lens. I do confirm it works. Your welcome ;)
Didn't know that in March of 2020 when I bought mine. I ended up buying the Samyang branded station at Amazon UK. Took 5 days to arrive at my front door in Las Vegas which is impressive.
Rented one and shot it alongside the RF 85 f/2 and RF f/1.2 Its a really good lens, but no, its not better than the L. Its not even as good as the L, not even close. But then again, the L is also $2700. So this is a nice compromise but honestly, id take the Canon f/2 over this. Cheaper, lighter, IS, macro and its made by Canon.
thanks for the input! Canon glass will always be very sharp as they are manufactured directly for canon, unfortunately they don’t give resources to third party developers like Sony does, so third party lenses will always be playing catch up.
Also not to forget that, depending on the lense, certain camera features may not be available. For updating you may also need additional adapters that further increase the price. From what I know RF third party lenses are also just EF lenses with an RF mount (so they actually use EF registration numbers and the camera think you just mounted an EF lense). There are many downsides for using a third party lense which buyers should be aware of. For many users that may not matter when considering the price so its absolutely fine. Its just important that people know about that before buying and thinking its just the same but cheaper.
Yeah but have you seen the RF F2 af, it's amazingly slow and horrible
@@mikkelstormhansen9733 I own the RF F2. Amazingly slow and horrible? LMAO!!!!! What a troll.
@@michaelbell75 Haven't you seen any video about it?
Great review! I owned this lens on Sony then sold it in favor of the Sigma 85mm DN Art. When I swapped over to the R6 I was tempted by the Samyang again but went for the RF 85mm f/2 as I mainly shoot still life with the lens so the close focusing distance makes a huge difference! If the 85mm DN Art comes out in RF mount, I think you’d fall in love with it even more than the Samyang!
You have a great voice! Perfect for this kind of channel. Thanks for your review.
thank you for your encouraging words Bryan!
Great review!
You deserve more subs!
I think this lense will be good too for street photography and thank you for noticing the update.
Didn't knew that one yet. Handy because I'm switching too, to a mirrorless body.
Really great review. Informative without too much detail. You had some fun and introduced some humour. Gonna subscribe and encourage you to keep going with your channel. Cheers from the UK.
thanks Daniel! really appreciate your encouraging words. hope the channels content brings value to you!
Love the example shots, so beautiful! Lucifur is adorable as well 😊 definitely following!
Thanks so much! 😊
I’m inspired to start my own channel. You appeared in my recommended feed on TH-cam. Great video as well man.
thanks Mr D Lawrence, definitely do, its never a bad time to start!
FANTASTIC video. Thank you for sharing! I just picked my new R6 and have been looking at 85’s. This Samyang option looks ideal. Wonder if I can find that docking station here in Japan.
1.4 is the sweet spot on full frame RN. 1.4 prime and 2.8 zoom is as good as it gets for image quality, weight and price compromise. For APSC it's 1.2 and f2 I'd say, but we're not getting f2 zooms for some reason.
Awesome and helpful review. Thanks for putting this together!
i think i already figured out what lens to buy, ill go with this lens, nice review bro.. thanks
I have both the Samyang 85mm f/1.4, have updated it to firmware v3 but I also have the Sigma ART EF Mount and it while heavy and larger, it is a better lens for sharpness edge to edge. Agree overall that Samyang is a GREAT lens but it has shortfalls.
Thanks for the video!! How good is the focus speed??? and can you gwt 30fps or less? thanks
just picked one up on ebay for $307, perfect time since im traveling to europe, cant wait to use it on my Sony a7r3!!
What camera were you using for the handheld video portion in the park? Amazing stabilization 1:48
Nice review and can you make one compared with EF version ?
The Samyang 85/1.4 is a great design. It's a cheapskates' delight. I considered buying other 85/1.4 lenses, but this Sigma is already superb. No need to spend more.
I just got this lens and it’s insane. There is no way possible the canon 1.2L is $2000 better. No way. This lens it’s crazy sharp and fast. Paired with the canon R5 it’s amazing. So light too
I bought the Samyang 85mm/F 1.4 EF lens for my Canon R5 to shoot indoor basketball games at my local college. Awesome results and far more inexpensive than the Canon & Sigma lens version.
I appreciate that you included some ungraded images! One concern people had with the FE version, is that it has a yellow/green color tint. is that something you noticed? for a lens that I would mainly shoot portraits with, good colors are pretty important. thx for your video!
thank you for watching! I went back to review some of the comparison shots in my photo library and did not notice a significant difference in color tint, I do know that some people with FE mount bodies have small issues with green tint, this could possibly be the case, but I did also hear that it can be easily corrected with a magenta post correction! Hope that helps!
I got this lens and tested it on low light scenarios for nightclub and interior or exterior night shots. it preforms really good but it have this focus hunting issue when you try to focus on dark homogeneous surfaces also when the frame is busy with people moving. I had hard time to focus when I tried it in nightclub so I had to switch to manual focus.
Good video, if you keep it up you will probably grow a lot in subscribers
I appreciate your kind words!
I like this review. I have been debating whether to get this one or the Canon RF 85 mm F2 macro. My use case would be primarily portraits. I won't need it for videos. Which one would you recommend?
for protraits I would definitely recommend this samyang lens since the blur would be a lot prettier, which body do you have? if you have the R6 or R5, definitely the Samyang since the IBIS would compensate for the lack of IS in the lens
@@albertthoughts I have the EOS R. Unfortunately, it doesn't have IBIS. Not sure if that'll be a deal breaker.
I'm having this lens and it feels great, especially with the small size and weight. However, after using Sigma 85 Art, I have to say nothing beat that lens in term of quality so this Samyang still doesn't get me the feeling of super sharpness. One thing though since it's smaller, I can now afford to bring it with me on traveling, which I would never do with 85 Sigma art before. What's the point of having a good lens but you hardly can bring it to anywhere else, right?
this or sigma art 85mm, which is better quality image and sharper?thank you so much
Yeah, I have the same question.
@@Ghost_Samurai21 in the end i bought the Samyang for my R. i tried sigma but it's really too heavy and i Made the return with Amazon.
Now im waiting for the Samyang
Looks nice. I just picked up the Samyamg XP 85mm 1.2 quite cheap. It’s an EF mount lens, might need a firmware update for adapted compatibility, but wow! Amazing sharpness wide open, next to no chromatic aberration, and (according to many) generally better image quality than the Canon EF 1.2 L II. Manual focus only, but who needs AF anyway? ;)
*Samyang, not Samyamg; mistyped on my phone and can’t edit the comment.
nice! 1.2 is definitely another world! it sure looks like a beast of a lens. enjoy!
Samyang has stopped production of R lenses, I think they don't keeping up with Canon's software updates. I'm curious if the 85 ul still works ok with the new 1.5 update
Great question and that's also something that I am looking out for. It currently works normally on my R6 with firmware 1.5. IBIS works, Focus works, etc.
The FE version of this lens has a strong yellow colour cast, I wonder if this lens exhibits the same behaviour as it's basically the same optical design.
That's a good inference, I have not noticed any yellow hues that destroy the image though I would say the R6 sensor could be compensating it with white balance.
i have samyang 85 AND the canon RF 85 the canon is way heavier and the canon takes sharper images and it auto focuses a tad quicker, not sure if its worth 2k more tho.
nice! I’ve noticed canon added more UD elements to address vignetting on the samyang. hope you enjoy both of them!
I have the EF version on the 5DM4 and its awesome. Im buying the R6 to couple with 5DM4. I hope the samyang will work with the R6 with Canon s adopter.
I got the Eos RP and I am looking to get my first 85mm do you think I should go for the Samyang RF 1.4 or the Canon EF 1.8 ? You made a great video.
thanks! I would recommend the Samyang 1.4 only because personally I love the extra stop from the f1.4, gives you that nice creamy bokeh and is an RF Mount so you don’t have to worry about a lens adapter VS an EF.
By the way Samyang has discontinued the R series 85 mm lens .
Nice take 👍
Great review! 👌
Thanks! 👍
Hi albert. Buy any chance have you tested/compared this Samyang to a 85 1.8 Viltrox from a different mount? I am wondering how good this Samyang really is. At 2:40 you said two different things: "This lens is super sharp", but then you said "it's sharp enough wide open". So when shooting at 1.4 is it super sharp or sharp enough? I read many reviews about the Viltrox for Fuji mount and people said that this lens was very sharp wide open, but I have been really disappointed because I don't find the Viltrox very sharp wide open, in fact is soft. I didn't know there was a Samyang/Rokinon 85 1.4 in RF mount and I would like more information about will appreciate your input thank you.
Hey Adrian, I've never tried the Viltrox, but the Samyang is indeed sharp wide open, I shoot a lot of portraits and I am always amazed by how sharp it is, I would assume Samyang is a lot sharper than Viltrox given how long they have been in the market (1972 vs 2009). Hope this helps!
Just picked one up. Great lense for the price. Super sharp pictures. I am getting lots of onion ring bokeh though 😟 not sure if its just my copy. I may exchange for another one.
Thanks for the review. I have been agonizing over if I should select this lens or the RF 85 f2. Does the samyang support RF only features like the evf distance scale, the high speed display, and adjustable focus ring sensitivity?
Unfortunately many of the Canon RF features are not available for this lens. Mentioned also in 07:24, this lens needs a lens station (sold separately...also impossible to find here in the States) that does allow focus ring sensitivity, lens updates, etc. However, in manual mode, the distance scale is present. I’d say definitely go with the RF f/2 if the feature is important to you.
@@albertthoughts I’m in Texas I have this lens for my R6 and I have the lens station👌🏾 updated my lens to V3. I ordered the lens station through Rokinon
@@albertthoughts It’s not clear if samyang has truly cracked the RF mounts code. Superficially it looks like the RF but internally it probably uses EF mount software. In the end I went with the RF 85. I just didn’t need the extra aperture stop in the end
@@kennlw5 that's good to know it's cross compatible! how does the latest firmware compare?
@@Russianspyonyou definitely wont go wrong with the RF85! I picked up the RF35 over the weekend with a deal from Canon so will be dropping a video on that shortly, I don't doubt you'll definitely enjoy the RF 85!
I cannot find this lens anywhere to purchase. Only MF version or EF mount
This is a great video mate. In comparing the canon 85mm f2 lens with this. While I have not experimented with the lens, I am selling my Canon 85 and purchasing this based on the research I have done. While the Canon 85 has image stabilisation, it struggles to hit the mark in low light situations. The focus breath is a disaster. My old EF Canon lenses with an adaptor respond better with the eye detection and auto focusing modes. I was so frustrated with the Canon 85 on one shoot I nearing took it off my camera body and tossed it over a fence!! Thankfully I kept my cool and I will sell it instead.
The colours on this Samyang lens and the creamy backgrounds combined with the razor sharp focal points look incredible.
This is just my opinion of course.
Cheers!
Have you considered tamrom 85 1.8?
Hello is the samyang 85mm mark II is for canon r series too?
My problem with this lens is it's lack of image stabilization, so I'll probably go for the older ef 85mm f1.4 is usm since i have an eos rp which lacks sensor stabilization
that’s a good call when paired with the RP, will be good for low light as well
You have to upgrade the firmware to v3 via the docking station. Then you'll get IBIS and a higher frame rate capability with the lens.
I ended up returning my copy. When shooting on silent mode the aperture blades had a really loud clicking noise. It was silent at F1.4 once I change f2.8 or f3.5 for example. The noise was really loud and slow focusing.
dang, hope your next purchase is better!
Hi, great review. How about video capabilities of this lens, autofocus as fast as at canon lenses or not?
In my experience it is smooth and fast for video but you just have to make sure to update to the latest firmware for the lens
nice review you deserve more views:)
thanks John!
If you aren’t going with R lenses, why go with a Canon R body?
If someone has a Canon DSLR (ie 5d3/ 5d4) with a big set of awesome L lenses, why switch to the R/R6/R5 - especially if they have a very limited R-lens catalog at the moment, and foreseeable future (compared to the vast L library).
The only thing I can think of is if you do video (4k video at high frame rate).
Can I get your thoughts on this?
I’m debating adding a full frame camera to do youtube videos. Full frame 4k sounds enticing, but that’s the only benefit I see.
I’d appreciate your help with this.
I don’t necessarily have to stick with a Canon, but would prefer to do so because of future lenses.
I DON’T like to use lens adapters (ie use L lenses on the R bodies).
i agree with the last part, adapting EF lenses on the R body kind of defeats the purpose of a smaller body, yet it is the best bet right now to have a wider array of lenses available (affordability as well). The R has excellent video capabilities but if you’re looking for a full frame that mainly does video I would go for the R6 since the non-crop will give you better flexibility, check out my video on the R6! I’ve since picked up a couple RF lenses and will be doing some reviews on them soon, stay tuned!
@@albertthoughts
Thank you very much for your response.
Just had a follow up question - so I am clear, are you recommending that I get the R6 over the R5?
If so, I assume it’s because of overheating issues with the R5 (when recording at 4k for extended periods of time)?
I look forward to your reviews on the lenses. I’m looking into that as well, so I am sure your videos will be helpful!
Regards!
wonder how this lens compare with sigma 85 1.4 (dslr version) and canon ef 85 1.4?
Cut kitty. Thanks for the review thumbs up I was curious about this lens. (sorry if I posted two comments my computer glitched) After looking at the sample footage the pictures and video in this review look really soft and lack contrast. Maybe it's export settings maybe it's TH-cam compression who knows but the samples leave a lot to be desired. Maybe a used Canon EF 85 or Sigma EF 85 with a EF to RF adapter might be a better choice. It might be a good comparison video to check that out. :)
Got one, love it, it’s also perfect for video on a gimbal
What about rap videos do you thinks its ideal??
You can buy the Rokinon Lens Station it works with the Samyang. I’ve done it! Great video! I am subscribed!
thank you! I've since ordered one myself as well, gonna see how it performs!
Just bought the Samyang 85mm RF but the IS is not working, also couldn't find the Lens Station.
Please help. USA
Do you think it would be any good got video as well?
Would you recommend this lens over the 24-105 f4
I think they serve different purposes, 24-105 is a good all arounder while the 85 is a good portrait / mid telephoto
I'll probably be getting this over the Canon 85mm F2. I did really want to get the F2 considering it's a native lens but no weather sealing, no lens hood (not a biggie but c'mon Canon), it's F2 and the focus isn't silent with the STM motor is just too much. I'll take my chances with the Samyang but keenly awaiting Sigma jumping onto the RF mount.
totally agree, with such limited options, the Samyang really shines especially at this price point. but you wouldn't go wrong with it even if sigma came out with their own variant! sigma I believe would price their ART 85 1.4 at near the $1000 range
How is it ? Can't decide between Canon f2 or this Samyang. Would like the close focusing but really it's about portraits..
unfortunately that would not happen any soon. Canon said couple of months ago that they will allow third party manufactures but they didn't.
6:26 I KNEW that was a Chris Frost photo lmao, went to the site and it says right there.
good memory!
Thanks for the sharing bro…
Does it work on 6d mark ii?
Unfortunately no, the 6D uses the EF mount
@@albertthoughts thanks for the reply bro 🙂 keep the good work 💯💯
I have a canon 77D. Amazon says the Samyang is compatible with EF mount. Does Samyang have both an RF and EF version?
Yes it has
I looked at the Rokinon 85 1.4 because it was what my local camera place has in stock and it, unlike the Samyang, does NOT have AF. 😔.
that is unfortunate, Samyang does make a big line of manual focus lenses and have recently stepped into the AF world. the newer rokinon should have AF as its the same exact lens, I hope your local camera place will order these soon!
Thanks for the good video; do you know how we can make sure that the lens has V3 Firmware before buying ? I'm not sure if seller mention this info.
thanks for the kind words! unfortunately theres no way currently. theres also no way to check unless you have the lens station which is a bummer. if you purchase directly from rokinon's website, you might have luck finding one.
@@albertthoughts Do you know how this lens work with R6 ? I heard there are some issues with focusing and IBIS Issue ? I'm not sure if V3 firmware fixed all current issue. do you happen to know anything on this issue ?
Samyang RF 85mm 1.4 - This is good for videos, CINEMATIC, WEDDINGS, PRE WEDDINGS,?? i'm confused in rf 85mm F2 vs Samyang RF 85mm 1.4..
Hey,
good Video.
I Love the Samyang 85mm.
thank you! it’s a great lens!
Maybe I missed it but how is the chromatic aberration on the RF Samyang 1.4 lens? I have the Canon EF 85mm 1.8 and it's driving me nuts.
its handled really well, they've added a UD element to the front of the lens (upgrade to their first iteration) and minimizes chromatic aberrations wide open. there is still traces of CA but its largely minimized.
Do you get a yellow color cast in your photos as compared to the Canon lense?
Personally i haven’t noticed a yellow cast in my copy
@@albertthoughts thanks. I got a bad copy then
Hey would this work with CANON 5D MARK II ?
unfortunately no because it's for the RF mount and not EF (for 5D)
@@albertthoughts Thanks Albert.
You can buy a Rokinon Station at B&H :)
Will it be compatible with my 80d camera?
it will not, only for the RF
does this fit with a canon 2000d? it's a DSLR so i dunno, im kinda new to photography and don't know what fits with what.
Unfortunately no this is for the RF mount which currently is only the R R3 R5 and R6. The 2000d is an EF mount and I totally agree Canon makes it so confusing.
@@albertthoughts yeah, thanks for a good answer!
Waiting for the sigma and tamron lenses to come out on RF, very tempted to get this lens 😋
Sounds like it might be awhile before they make RF glass from articles I've read
@@MrPanthers23 That's too bad :( I know they have lenses lined up to be released, but I'm almost certain there's going to be extra delays. I guess we'll see. 😪
hopefully soon, we're a huge RF market waiting to be tapped
@@KyleCWong what I read about Sigma was they are doing financially well making current lenses. To create a new RF mount costs money for R&D. In this shrinking photography market, Sigma is trying to be cognizant of expenditures, etc... I hope the article is wrong, but who knows.
subscribed the second I saw the photo of the street sign in PV :D
you know it!
without firmware 3 that lens wouldn't work properly with R6/R5 so how you could recommend it? Most retailers don't state what firmware they sell it with
that’s a valid point, I think it’s probably safe to assume that no retailers other than samyang themselves that will ship with the latest firmware.
Do the minute differences in quality/bokeh/clarity between f/2, f/1.8, f/1.2 really matter to the average Joe or Jane or them photographer like me? I think not. I think it only matters to pixel peeping professionals seeking to eliminate the teeniest speck of noise that most of us would only notice if viewed through an electron microscope. 🤦🏼♂️
If it makes you think buying and selling another lens will improve your photography why not. But if you take good photographs with your current lens why?.
can I do group photos with thsi ? also do I need to update it as well if i hve the rp
I would say it is rather hard since it is very much zoomed in, maybe a group of up to 3-4 but definitely not more - you also probably won’t need to update if it’s for the RP since they designed the original firmware for the R/RP
hello brother i have a question Samyang 85mm 1.4 RF mount with canon m50 + viltrox Speedbooster it's possible are not ?
I believe if the Viltrox speed booster has a EOS-M to EOS-R mount adapter it should theoretically work, but if they do not, double adapters may cause some problems.
there is an EF samyang 85mm 1.4 AF available and you should buy that if you're interested in this lens for the m50 since you can adapt EF to eos M but not RF to eos M. but you know it will crop and become more or less around 135mm which is not necessarily a problem but u just need to know that. otherwise if you want the 85mm perspective sigma has a 56mm 1.4 that crops to a very similar focal length to an 85mm for EOS M mount. i recommend the sigma over the samyang since you don't need an adapter there. but if you plan to upgrade to RF in the future, the Samyang on EF mount will be adaptable to the RF bodies.
@@vipersrt30 oo yes the IO85AF-C (85mm f/1.4 Samyang EF) for Canon EF, this is actually a different lens and lens structure and I believe does not actually have a ED glass in it which may cause fringing and chromatic aberrations unfortunately, but I do hear that the Sigma 56mm f/1.4 is a great lens, good recommendation!
reference: www.samyanglens.com/upload/file/ENG_catalogue.pdf
How can you live with minimum focal distance of 1m in product photography? And how often you take pictures with aperture 1.4? Stopping down to 4-5.6 any 85mm lens gives you spectacular results. And you can buy many of samyang's lenses very cheaply with stacked focus rings apertures not working etc. Just get Canon EF 85mm 1.8 for 200$ used and you are done! And No! Samyang is not even close to Canon L lenses...
Then is it worth it to shoot with the samyang at night?? Like portraits?
definitely! if you're able to use a tripod or keep your shutter higher
I am tempted to get this lens after watching this video
definitely check it out if there's a free return on your favorite platform
Too bad it doesn’t offer IS or have another version with IS that competes fully against the Canon. Once you start using IS lenses it is just hard to be switching up, unless you are using flash.
totally agree with this! although it looks like the R5/R6 users won’t be missing out too much on the lack of IS
hello do you know if the ef version of this lens with an ef to eos r adapter will work properly with eos r series?
I haven't personally tested it but I've heard from my pal at the camera store it should work although the EF version isn't really optically similar to the RF, in other words the RF 85 1.4 has more ED (UD) elements that help with chromatic aberration
@@albertthoughts I see. But it shouldn't be that much of a different right? I can't seem to find much review of this newer version of this lens online. I am thinking of buying the ef verison, adapt it to my m50 right now, and upgrade to a eos r line later and adapter it to that camera. I can't adapt rf lens to a m50 unfortunately
amazing lens the only problem you can't buy it, is imposible to find :(
Is there a EF version of this lens, because I have a canon T7I
unfortunately, there isn't for this series. there is an ef85mm f/1.4 from samyang/rokinon but its not the same construction and doesnt have the ED elements that diffracts chromatic aberration so I would not actually recommend that one. however, I hear great things about the ART series Sigma 85mm which is slightly higher in price but offers excellent image quality.
Viltrox 85?
I was so happy when I got mine paired with my R5. Then I noticed it wasn't always accurate and there is a an amber urine cast to the images. It would have been great if it was accurate.. I sent it back and ordering the real deal RF 85 f/1.2.
Are there Lightroom correction profiles for this lens?
just doubled checked to see if I'm seeing it or not, so far it either still shows as a Sigma 85 or they don't show up unfortunately.
is this. also avialable for canon 5div?
unfortunately no, there is however an EF version of a 85mm f/1.4 from Samyang but the structure is different and doesn't actually included the expensive elements that reduces chromatic abberations and flare.
For me i prepare the canon rf 85mm f2 is better and with macro and this is very better prices
I was able to purchase a lens station directly from Rokinon.
how was your experience with the lens station?
Rokinon lens station works perfectly.
Works great.
Do you know where can i buy it in the US
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Canon's color is way better. Samyang has a yellow tint that is noticeable even after post processing. Good cheap lens but that's about all it is. If you're thinking of buying an RF 85mm stick with Canon, you won't have to mess with the color and it focuses flatter than the Samyang. With Canon if you focus on someone's eyes their midriff or the top of their jeans or dress is also in focus, with Samyang it's out of focus. Plus Canon gives you an option of a macro focus, Samyang; doesn't. I shoot only stills so I don't care which one is better at video.
Good luck getting any repairs on this lens. The multiple reviews of frustration should keep most at bay, unless you want to take the risk.
Thanks for the note! I definitely believe Customer support is a major factor that companies should focus on and that we consumers need to look out for. I haven’t (thankfully) needed support yet but it definitely comes at a cost purchasing from third party companies.
I hope 50 mm samyang rf lounching 😢....
hopefully! it would be even sweeter if it were f/1.2
This video did help gonna get it
This len has problem with the color. It is very difficult to edit the color. There are always have some extra color blend into the photo. Focus speed is very slow! Not my best Len
i havent encountered this issue with the RF version, make sure to update the firmware, maybe the focus will be quicker for you, linear focusing is quite fast for me actually!
Returned this lens. Too quirky. Saved up for the 1.2 and never looked back
f/1.4 sharper than f/2 ??????????
NOT. It is not sharper than the RF versions. None. It is also not sharper than the L version. I own the L version, the RF 85 1.2 and also the RF85 f2. And they are still better options than the Samyang. Have you made a serious comparison or is it just an opinion? And let's not forget the most important thing, cheap is expensive. It is not worth acquiring the samyang having the RF85f2 within reach for a few hundred more.
85 Samyang is super sharp? Ehhhh... it's ok... but it's not 85L RF sharp. 85L RF sharpness is on another level. There's plenty of videos out there that show comparison of this. Samyang isnt even close to being comparable to 85L RF. Lets not get started on the bokeh quality either lol.
No, it's not better than the RF 85 1.2, not by far.
Sigma ART 85mm is as good as canon L, but this lens is not unfortunately. I tried all of them.
it’ll be worth barely anything in 2 years though, any canon L lenses hold their value for decades
That's a great point.
try getting support....samyang also dropped this lens and the rokinon might do the same....reverse engineering is not the best way of manufacturing a lens....updates....what updates....stay away from samyang/rokinon products at least for the RF mount!!!!
the samyang 85mm f1.4 EF was an horrible lens
the elements in the EF version was definitely not good given they omitted the UD elements, from what I'm seeing in the manual, this lens seems to be a complete redesign
@@albertthoughts I used the 85mm f1.4 EF for wide-field astrophotography, but the chromatic aberration created me purple halos around the stars.... I hope the lens has improved👍👍
I have the EF version on the 5DM4 and its awesome. Its the latest EF.
“Bokeh stretching out in the corners?” Who cares? C’mon man! Bokeh is bouquet is bowkay no matter how you spell or see it. 🤦🏼♂️
I have both. Canon much batter. Samyang 14mm much better than canon, but in 85mm the canon win
Thank you for the input! I definitely think having more lenses in the market benefits the consumer.