Argument from complexity is rather silly

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  • @realshot9125
    @realshot9125 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Hey vimoh it was me 😭😭😭😭🙏 , I loved the convo and I didnot have organised answers to those , now I have. It's a dream come true for me I showed it to my friends and family that I talked to you I hope I will debate you more

    • @SaikatBasak
      @SaikatBasak 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I recommend you watch Laurence Kraus's lecture on an universe from nothing.

    • @Dontwatchyoutube
      @Dontwatchyoutube 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The questions were really good :) It is what I always ponder over too. For our minds, it is a very logical leap to think that there is some creator.

    • @one_autumn_leaf69
      @one_autumn_leaf69 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@SaikatBasakThanks for the recommendation.

    • @justacherryontop6538
      @justacherryontop6538 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Till now, there is no way to prove that if wind carried sand with it and somehow a sandcastle can't be created because it's complex. Look for contradictions in reality which will depend on your definition of God of course.

    • @abhinandanbhattacharya1145
      @abhinandanbhattacharya1145 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would recommend reading "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins, evolutionary biology is complicated and this book simplifies it to the maximum extent possible. Once you are done with that, read "The Ancestor's Tale" by the same writer. The second book addresses the issue of complexity and how perfection among living organisms is a misunderstood aspect.
      I hope it helps.

  • @spuriusscapula4829
    @spuriusscapula4829 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "Complexity" is relative and requires a frame of reference anyway.

  • @user-vv8wb7ej9q
    @user-vv8wb7ej9q 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How is everything in so much sync and interdependent? The ecology, the species living in it, the mountains, the vegetation there. everything is so much linked to each other. If one thing is messed up with the other automatically starts degrading. I wonder how everything is so connected?

  • @exopyrox
    @exopyrox 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't natural processes demonstrate an inherent intelligence? Why does intelligence have be the human type?

  • @exopyrox
    @exopyrox 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is there the evolution of simple systems to complex systems in the universe? Kindly explain.

  • @pmis2362
    @pmis2362 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like natural number, there is natural cuteness. This is complex cuteness

  • @user-vv8wb7ej9q
    @user-vv8wb7ej9q 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also @vimoh what do think about these bhakti-sufi saints? Like there are numerous saints who claim to have seen god or have realised the essence of god. Were these appearances or realisations hallucinations or just creation of mind? I put this question because in recent times i have come across many names with similar experiences. What do you think about them,? In current times there is one personality called Sri M. He has written his autobiography called 'apprenticed to a himalayan master'. In this he describes his experiences from childhood till adulthood. A lot of supernatural phenomena have been discusses in it. If you be interested please have a read of it. And please discuss with us what should we make out of such 'experiences'

  • @ShivamKumar-qz7or
    @ShivamKumar-qz7or 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow

  • @Milindmutuswami
    @Milindmutuswami 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vimoh please react to Yoga of Love and how confidently he puts silly arguments🤌🏻😭

  • @SayanSarkarakadragon
    @SayanSarkarakadragon 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dinosaur bahut pehle ke nahi the bhai, aur dinosaur ke pehle ka bhi kafi information hai. Dinosaur mesozoic era pe tha aur life ke spread hua precambrian pei

  • @CUBINGGURU
    @CUBINGGURU 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Single cell was simple then everything is evolution

  • @Madara456
    @Madara456 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello sir because you are older thank for making such good argument . I learning to some good arguments

  • @GOKUPLAYZ534
    @GOKUPLAYZ534 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Have you heard some of Osho's thoughts and his philosophy? What do you think about it?

  • @amantripathi2715
    @amantripathi2715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    sir agar mai nature ko God man lu tab aap mujhase kaisa praman manenge jisse main Ishwar ke hone ka aapko Vishwas dila pau❤❤❤ please bataiye

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      main poochhonga ki nature ko god kyun maante ho. nature ko nature maanna kaafi nahi hai?

    • @amantripathi2715
      @amantripathi2715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vimohlive kya iska matlab aap god ko do pairon wala do aankhon wala aur do hathon wala vale ko hi god manenge ye jaruri hai kya
      mai nature ko kyu god nahi nam sakta
      waise aap ye mat soche ki mai kisko god manata hu matlab mere liye kaun god hai aap bas itna bataiye ki aap ko god k hone kya kya proof chahiye

    • @amantripathi2715
      @amantripathi2715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vimohlive samajh lijiye agar Eiffel tower hi god hota tab bhi to aap yahi kah sakte the ki Eiffel tower ko Eiffel tower Mano god kyu manate ho
      to ye galat hai na agar mai aap ko Eiffel tower ko god proof na kar pau to aap bol sakte hai Eiffel tower ko Eiffel tower Mano tab bat thik rahata

    • @amantripathi2715
      @amantripathi2715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vimohlive to isase kya main yah nishkarsh nikal sakta hun ki aap Ishwar ke ek Swaroop ko mante Hain Jo aapke Jahan mein baitha hai

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@amantripathi2715 main poochh raha hoon alag alag cheezo ko god maanne ki kya zaroorat hai? un cheezon ka naam hai. unko use karo. why the need to call anything god?

  • @676kumarrahul
    @676kumarrahul 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Next topic Nihilism 🥺

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      there are already many videos here about nihilism

  • @SS-ct4hv
    @SS-ct4hv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @Goodgamesful
    @Goodgamesful 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We can not overcome 'DEATH'. Dear brother, death is a name given by human society, which is in fact a continuous change process of matters in nature. When water converts into ice in a very simple natural process, it can be called as water died and ice is born.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True. And to the best of our knowledge, when we die, we turn to dust. So we die and dust is born.

    • @Goodgamesful
      @Goodgamesful 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vimohlive Thank you sir for your personal reply. Its my great pleasure. I'm a big fan of yours since long. 🌹❤️🙏🏻

  • @crazyrishuyt
    @crazyrishuyt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sir bigest fan

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      The biggest fan I ever saw was in Pune airport

    • @Nickel287
      @Nickel287 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@vimohlivewhat did he do ?

    • @Nickel287
      @Nickel287 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@vimohlivewhat did he do ?

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@Nickel287 Nothing. It was a giant ceiling fan.

    • @justalive24
      @justalive24 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@vimohlive😂

  • @chandeshwardas2763
    @chandeshwardas2763 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bhai hindi me bolo , south asian hindi samjhte hai english nahi

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      bhai poora south asia uttar pradesh nahi hai. I talk to people in the language they use. Why would I talk to an English speaker in Hindi?

    • @hindiisonlyalanguagenotkno913
      @hindiisonlyalanguagenotkno913 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Vaah. "South" asian hi keh diya. "दक्षिण एशियाई" nahi mila tha sanskaari shudh Hindi main. Tamil channel pe bhi jaake bolna chahiye "bhai south asian hindi samajthe hai, tamil nahin". Par voh jaake nahin karoge. Sirf english baat karne vaale channel pe aakar karoge.

    • @ShobhitGupta12
      @ShobhitGupta12 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Does language matter if the recipient understands it?
      The question was in English, and Vimoh responded in English. Nothing wrong with that. And Hindi is not a sole representative language of South Asia. There are also other great languages like Urdu, Tamil, Telugu and many others.

    • @spuriusscapula4829
      @spuriusscapula4829 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry sir, I'm fluent in Hindi, but f*** Hindi.

  • @mhmmdmz
    @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Misleading rebuttal ... complexity implies inverse probability of something happening on its own. If something doesn't come into effect on its own, there is an external effector ...

    • @mhmmdmz
      @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rommelbengali huh?

    • @PramodKumar-gy8lb
      @PramodKumar-gy8lb 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sure, as long as you don't insist that the "external effector" is a god.

    • @mhmmdmz
      @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PramodKumar-gy8lb let's not call it god .. but accepting that there is an external factor is progress. This is good.

    • @PramodKumar-gy8lb
      @PramodKumar-gy8lb 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@mhmmdmz Everything we see around us has external factors involved in their creation. I have no reason to believe otherwise and I am also comfortable with the idea that there are things out there that I will never know about.
      Your patronizing tone indicates that somehow we would reach a god conclusion by going down a road of reason. Reason never takes you there. There's always a fallacy in the arguments when anyone reaches a conclusion about a god and it is not that difficult to spot.

    • @mhmmdmz
      @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PramodKumar-gy8lb - patronizing? - in any case, the idea is the belief in an external creator is the most rational and plausible explanation to our present observations. What's the fallacy in that argument (If one were to overcome the bias of the popular definitions of God... ).

  • @mhmmdmz
    @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vimoh's arguments usually boil down to him not 'seeing' something ... not very strong IMO

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      feel free to come talk to me on any saturday at 8 pm.

    • @mhmmdmz
      @mhmmdmz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vimohlive Thank you again. Will try but prefer doing a 1-1 (or similar)... :)