Argument from complexity is rather silly
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Hey vimoh it was me 😭😭😭😭🙏 , I loved the convo and I didnot have organised answers to those , now I have. It's a dream come true for me I showed it to my friends and family that I talked to you I hope I will debate you more
I recommend you watch Laurence Kraus's lecture on an universe from nothing.
The questions were really good :) It is what I always ponder over too. For our minds, it is a very logical leap to think that there is some creator.
@@SaikatBasakThanks for the recommendation.
Till now, there is no way to prove that if wind carried sand with it and somehow a sandcastle can't be created because it's complex. Look for contradictions in reality which will depend on your definition of God of course.
I would recommend reading "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins, evolutionary biology is complicated and this book simplifies it to the maximum extent possible. Once you are done with that, read "The Ancestor's Tale" by the same writer. The second book addresses the issue of complexity and how perfection among living organisms is a misunderstood aspect.
I hope it helps.
"Complexity" is relative and requires a frame of reference anyway.
How is everything in so much sync and interdependent? The ecology, the species living in it, the mountains, the vegetation there. everything is so much linked to each other. If one thing is messed up with the other automatically starts degrading. I wonder how everything is so connected?
Don't natural processes demonstrate an inherent intelligence? Why does intelligence have be the human type?
Why is there the evolution of simple systems to complex systems in the universe? Kindly explain.
Like natural number, there is natural cuteness. This is complex cuteness
Also @vimoh what do think about these bhakti-sufi saints? Like there are numerous saints who claim to have seen god or have realised the essence of god. Were these appearances or realisations hallucinations or just creation of mind? I put this question because in recent times i have come across many names with similar experiences. What do you think about them,? In current times there is one personality called Sri M. He has written his autobiography called 'apprenticed to a himalayan master'. In this he describes his experiences from childhood till adulthood. A lot of supernatural phenomena have been discusses in it. If you be interested please have a read of it. And please discuss with us what should we make out of such 'experiences'
It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow
Vimoh please react to Yoga of Love and how confidently he puts silly arguments🤌🏻😭
Dinosaur bahut pehle ke nahi the bhai, aur dinosaur ke pehle ka bhi kafi information hai. Dinosaur mesozoic era pe tha aur life ke spread hua precambrian pei
Single cell was simple then everything is evolution
Hello sir because you are older thank for making such good argument . I learning to some good arguments
Have you heard some of Osho's thoughts and his philosophy? What do you think about it?
sir agar mai nature ko God man lu tab aap mujhase kaisa praman manenge jisse main Ishwar ke hone ka aapko Vishwas dila pau❤❤❤ please bataiye
main poochhonga ki nature ko god kyun maante ho. nature ko nature maanna kaafi nahi hai?
@@vimohlive kya iska matlab aap god ko do pairon wala do aankhon wala aur do hathon wala vale ko hi god manenge ye jaruri hai kya
mai nature ko kyu god nahi nam sakta
waise aap ye mat soche ki mai kisko god manata hu matlab mere liye kaun god hai aap bas itna bataiye ki aap ko god k hone kya kya proof chahiye
@@vimohlive samajh lijiye agar Eiffel tower hi god hota tab bhi to aap yahi kah sakte the ki Eiffel tower ko Eiffel tower Mano god kyu manate ho
to ye galat hai na agar mai aap ko Eiffel tower ko god proof na kar pau to aap bol sakte hai Eiffel tower ko Eiffel tower Mano tab bat thik rahata
@@vimohlive to isase kya main yah nishkarsh nikal sakta hun ki aap Ishwar ke ek Swaroop ko mante Hain Jo aapke Jahan mein baitha hai
@@amantripathi2715 main poochh raha hoon alag alag cheezo ko god maanne ki kya zaroorat hai? un cheezon ka naam hai. unko use karo. why the need to call anything god?
Next topic Nihilism 🥺
there are already many videos here about nihilism
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We can not overcome 'DEATH'. Dear brother, death is a name given by human society, which is in fact a continuous change process of matters in nature. When water converts into ice in a very simple natural process, it can be called as water died and ice is born.
True. And to the best of our knowledge, when we die, we turn to dust. So we die and dust is born.
@@vimohlive Thank you sir for your personal reply. Its my great pleasure. I'm a big fan of yours since long. 🌹❤️🙏🏻
Sir bigest fan
The biggest fan I ever saw was in Pune airport
@@vimohlivewhat did he do ?
@@vimohlivewhat did he do ?
@@Nickel287 Nothing. It was a giant ceiling fan.
@@vimohlive😂
Bhai hindi me bolo , south asian hindi samjhte hai english nahi
bhai poora south asia uttar pradesh nahi hai. I talk to people in the language they use. Why would I talk to an English speaker in Hindi?
Vaah. "South" asian hi keh diya. "दक्षिण एशियाई" nahi mila tha sanskaari shudh Hindi main. Tamil channel pe bhi jaake bolna chahiye "bhai south asian hindi samajthe hai, tamil nahin". Par voh jaake nahin karoge. Sirf english baat karne vaale channel pe aakar karoge.
Does language matter if the recipient understands it?
The question was in English, and Vimoh responded in English. Nothing wrong with that. And Hindi is not a sole representative language of South Asia. There are also other great languages like Urdu, Tamil, Telugu and many others.
Sorry sir, I'm fluent in Hindi, but f*** Hindi.
Misleading rebuttal ... complexity implies inverse probability of something happening on its own. If something doesn't come into effect on its own, there is an external effector ...
@@rommelbengali huh?
Sure, as long as you don't insist that the "external effector" is a god.
@@PramodKumar-gy8lb let's not call it god .. but accepting that there is an external factor is progress. This is good.
@@mhmmdmz Everything we see around us has external factors involved in their creation. I have no reason to believe otherwise and I am also comfortable with the idea that there are things out there that I will never know about.
Your patronizing tone indicates that somehow we would reach a god conclusion by going down a road of reason. Reason never takes you there. There's always a fallacy in the arguments when anyone reaches a conclusion about a god and it is not that difficult to spot.
@@PramodKumar-gy8lb - patronizing? - in any case, the idea is the belief in an external creator is the most rational and plausible explanation to our present observations. What's the fallacy in that argument (If one were to overcome the bias of the popular definitions of God... ).
Vimoh's arguments usually boil down to him not 'seeing' something ... not very strong IMO
feel free to come talk to me on any saturday at 8 pm.
@@vimohlive Thank you again. Will try but prefer doing a 1-1 (or similar)... :)