Absolutely love this motor, it's so buttery smooth in my traxxas trx4 blazer. And the wheelies are awesome in 2nd gear. Also the program card for my 1080 worked fine changing parameters, so if you have one laying around you don't need the led program card
I like to shift into 2nd, get the truck to barely move, set the cruise and shift down to 1st for an insane slow crawl. You cannot stop the wheels from spinning. I love the fusion.
Might have to find a good reason to put this in my wife’s Ecto. “I dunno honey, guess the original motor burned up or something, darnedest thing”. Thanks for the review, have a great one.
I been waiting on u to review this motor I got mine as soon as it was available and went in my modified gen7 and over my 2300 axe and 1800 fusion it's by far the smoothest
- Thank you Paul for the specific info/feedback on the HobbyWing FUSION 1800Kv, for I have yet to install & run it, in my GMADE (GS02F) !!! 🙄... I believe it "will" be the smoothest motor, for (ANY) Crawler !! 👌 😁 I am really lookin' forward to the NEW H.W. FUSION PRO (2300Kv) Motor, as I anticipate my "desired" application(s), - will require me to have this newer H.W. FUSION PRO 2300Kv !!!! 😉 ...But, I do NOT want to lose the torque, that the 1800Kv might have, - over the "2300Kv motor's "quoted" (by manufacturer)... high-er RPM range, if that is truly "how" that works !!? 👍 - Now, I can stop worrying 'bout missing-out on the H.W. Axe 2300. 😆 - Thanks again, for your input, it is greatly appreciated !!! 👌
GOOD MORNING JOE FROM ENGLAND SIR. IM SO HAPPY YOUR REVIEWING THIS FUSION. I HAVE JUST ORDERED MYSELF ONE. HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND BUDDY 🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼🤩🤙🏼👍🏼
This is the Best power system on the market paired with the Worst servo to come in a standard crawler lol. My Steering servo was upgraded immediately, best mod ever.
May put one of these in my red bronco. I like to try and get get crawlers as quiet as possible! My Blazer has the Castle Mamba X SCT 1415 2400kv system in it. Fantastic combo as you know. On the fly “basher” (haha) and “crawler” modes vis the app and Bluetooth link. Power for days. But dang if that castle whine isnt annoying! 😂 Kinda like savox servos. I like em. Have them in several of my RC’s including my Kraton EXB 6s. It’s really annoyingly loud but I only hear it for brief split seconds ha.
THIS looks great! I have had the TRx4 for 6 years (my son and I love them). But, now hes 10 and wants something faster, LOL. I wonder, if we did the 12T pinion on the motor, this would give maybe some more on the higher end?
OK, admittedly this $149.00 'Brushless' system is both simplified as well as performs well in crawling. How about comparing it to some Crawlmaster Pro or Puller Pro Brushed motors.
The motor itself is a 540 and has the normal diameter. The rear portion is all ESC and SBEC. If you remove the ESC SBEC it's exactly the diameter of a 540.
Love the videos dude!! Would like to see how you set this motor up on the program card… I’m having issues with my max reverse item, when I lower the value of the item it slows my forward motion down and not my reverse 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ maybe it’s still got some kinks to work out lol
I made a big mistake not pre ordering one of these! I have the 1800kv right now in my Sport and it’s my favorite motor by far. I’d like to see how the Fusion is in SV2.
Love my 1800kv Fusion! Will have to order the 2300kv version soon. Can you use the same programming card from the 1800kv or do you have to purchase a separate one specific to the 2300kv???🤔
I used the programming card from my hobbywing 1080 and it worked fine. You just need to use the sticker that comes with the motor as it only has like 13 parameters bot 15
Adding to the first comment you can also use the card from your 1800 KV motor. Just reference the parameters in your 2300 KV manual. The first item has an additional setting for the forward/revers options. I think the rest are the same.
I badly want to test 2 of these out in my 22lb Clodbuster 1/6th build --- hard to decide to replace what works so well already but would be nice to get rid of all the wiring of twin ESC's and twin brushless motors. Can they run on 4s though? or 6s maybe even?
I just picked one of these up if you run it at 7.4 bec will it fry the locking servos? Not sure if they can handle 7.4 or is there a way to put 7.4 to the steering and leave 6.0 on the locking servos
"Funny" that you purposely got a new Fusion Pro specifically for the TRX4. Why do I say that? Because I not only pre-ordered one of these, and because I received mine a little less than two weeks ago (yes, I actually had mine before Hobbywing Direct started shipping to customers...I think Amain made a 'mistake', and shipped mine early), but because I installed mine in the TRX4 Kit I'm in the process of building. Still need to decide on a body. Any suggestions (especially a Toyota body...and, even better, a hard-body) for a 12.3" wheelbase?
@@ExocagedRC I know "almost any 12.3" body will fit"...but, I was inquiring of anyone knew of Toyota (especially hard) bodies. The reason I was being specific about Toyota bodies is this. There's an online vendor out of Arizona who, on their website, advertises a particular Toyota LC70 body as being 312mm (ie. 12.3")...except that the manufacturer lists the current version of said body as being 324mm. Now, it is possible that the body the vendor is selling is a no-longer-in-production body, which might have been 312mm. In order to get 'clarification', I contacted the vendor and asked whether it was 312mm, or 324mm. The vendor responded back with a "snarky" reply (here's the reply I received: "either way its very small, and the rear bed can be spaced out farther 323mm wheelbase"), yet also never answered my question. I responded back, with the following: "That's not what I asked. I'm sure the product's box clearly indicates what the wheelbase is. Can you just provide that info, please?", to which the vendor hasn't bothered to reply. This is why I was asking if anyone knew of any 12.3" wheelbase Toyota bodies...especially a hard body.
I have the Firma 2-1 2300kv on my ‘21 Bronco and its basically the same. Joe can you still use the same Programing card from other Fusion for this 2300kv fusion?
You can use the same program card. Just reference the manual with the 2300KV. The first item has an additional option for the forward/reversing setting.
You cant.. I tested a lot of spektrum rebranded Hobbywing systems and they do not work with Hobbywing LCD program cards and Simple program card. They require the Spektrum branded hobbywing program cards as they seem to be tied in by software.
Spectrum is an all inclusive company. They force you to buy thier radios, receivers because they want to bring you into their realm of rc electronics. It's great stuff, but you won't be able to use generic open source controls.
My fusion pro 2300kv sometimes just shuts off when I drive in high gear (trx6 hauler) When in lowgear there is no issue.. but in high gear it just switches off when I hit the throttle. Sometimes I just drives in high gear nd sometimes it just shuts off. It doesn’t make any sense. Somebody knows the problem?
Hey exo love the videos great stuff! I installed mine today and my steering is reversed any help anyone would be much appreciated please and thank you!!
hi, i buy the fusion pro 2300 kv motor for my trx4 sport. did you keep the original motor pinion? can you give me the parameter for this motor for expedition? thanks for all.
Fusion has: -Less powerful system compared to the AXE. -Lack of RPM/Throttle settings. -Lack of Bluetooth connectivity. -Lack of motor swapping capability (As in just buy a different motor to change KV). Gains over the AXE: -Simplicity. -Weight reduction.
What's the biggest tooth pinion you can go with this with stock trx4 spur. So far 11tooth hits 13mph 12 tooth hit 14.3 mph I wanna get to 15ish so a 14tooth max?
Quick question, do I need to buy a different motor mounting plate in order to install this motor on my Traxxas TRX4 Defender? Or can I use the stock one?
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Traxxas nailed the 2 speed transmission. The best in versatility and very hard to beat for a all around truck.
yes they sure did, the whole truck is stout and capable
Preordered two of these myself. I was pleasantly surprised earlier this week when I came home to find them sitting on my porch!!! Love them!
Absolutely love this motor, it's so buttery smooth in my traxxas trx4 blazer. And the wheelies are awesome in 2nd gear.
Also the program card for my 1080 worked fine changing parameters, so if you have one laying around you don't need the led program card
Cool info about the card..! Thanks
Cheers 👍
Thank you for a good review of this product. You have answered the questions I had and make the decision to put one of these both of my TRX4s.
Installed the 1800kv version on my modified gen 7 pro and absolutely love it.its a slow crawl beast!!
A perfect choice, i think! Espacialy in this 2 Speed TRAXXAS NEW BRONCO... It crawles AND runs... A fine Trail Crawler... 👍👍👍😁
I like to shift into 2nd, get the truck to barely move, set the cruise and shift down to 1st for an insane slow crawl. You cannot stop the wheels from spinning. I love the fusion.
Might have to find a good reason to put this in my wife’s Ecto. “I dunno honey, guess the original motor burned up or something, darnedest thing”. Thanks for the review, have a great one.
The 2300 Pro is amazing. Thumbs up from me.
Loving the wheels on the Bronco. Good choice. Now I want a set. LOL.
I been waiting on u to review this motor I got mine as soon as it was available and went in my modified gen7 and over my 2300 axe and 1800 fusion it's by far the smoothest
Your comment just verified how much I need this set up! I love my 1800 fusion ! Thank you
- Thank you Paul for the specific info/feedback on the HobbyWing FUSION 1800Kv, for I have yet to install & run it, in my GMADE (GS02F) !!! 🙄... I believe it "will" be the smoothest motor, for (ANY) Crawler !! 👌 😁
I am really lookin' forward to the NEW H.W. FUSION PRO (2300Kv) Motor, as I anticipate my "desired" application(s), - will require me to have this newer H.W. FUSION PRO 2300Kv !!!! 😉 ...But, I do NOT want to lose the torque, that the 1800Kv might have, - over the "2300Kv motor's "quoted"
(by manufacturer)... high-er RPM range, if that is truly "how" that works !!?
👍 - Now, I can stop worrying 'bout missing-out on the H.W. Axe 2300. 😆
- Thanks again, for your input, it is greatly appreciated !!! 👌
Have the 1800kv one and love it other than it could use a touch more speed, this one looks promising as long as it stays cool.
I'm sunning min on a 13t pinion and 2.2 tires. It doesn't even break a sweat.
@@FarmerFpv How much faster is the top end with the 13t vs this video with the stock gearing?
I just bought this motor for my Element Gatekeeper. Glad to see it is working so well for you!
GOOD MORNING JOE FROM ENGLAND SIR. IM SO HAPPY YOUR REVIEWING THIS FUSION. I HAVE JUST ORDERED MYSELF ONE. HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND BUDDY 🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼🤩🤙🏼👍🏼
thank you buddy, have a great one!
This is good to know. I’ve been trying to figure out what I want to put in my wife’s Bronco. Thanks for this review Joe.
Glad to help
1800kv fusion is a dream I have 2 of ‘em
2300kv is the cream I have order one and now am
Waiting for mine!!!!
This is the Best power system on the market paired with the Worst servo to come in a standard crawler lol.
My Steering servo was upgraded immediately, best mod ever.
Just put mine in my Base Camp, so smooth!!
That system is epic 👊
May put one of these in my red bronco. I like to try and get get crawlers as quiet as possible!
My Blazer has the Castle Mamba X SCT 1415 2400kv system in it. Fantastic combo as you know. On the fly “basher” (haha) and “crawler” modes vis the app and Bluetooth link. Power for days. But dang if that castle whine isnt annoying! 😂
Kinda like savox servos. I like em. Have them in several of my RC’s including my Kraton EXB 6s. It’s really annoyingly loud but I only hear it for brief split seconds ha.
Thanks for all the great videos! Have great weekend!
thank you for watching
I really enjoyed this test. I my have to pick 1# up later this this year. For my trx4 sport !
THIS looks great! I have had the TRx4 for 6 years (my son and I love them). But, now hes 10 and wants something faster, LOL. I wonder, if we did the 12T pinion on the motor, this would give maybe some more on the higher end?
Fusion FOC is my all time favorite.
Fusion is my go to bro.
Can't believe you still have the stock servo in that thing lol.
its the 2055 its traxxas servo but its not stock, not even sure they are selling them any more
OK, admittedly this $149.00 'Brushless' system is both simplified as well as performs well in crawling. How about comparing it to some Crawlmaster Pro or Puller Pro Brushed motors.
yeah but its not really comparable to them due to design, I don't have any puller pro brushed motors
Holmes Hobbies did a comparison awhile back.
The motor itself is a 540 and has the normal diameter. The rear portion is all ESC and SBEC. If you remove the ESC SBEC it's exactly the diameter of a 540.
I would be launching that servo as far as I could into the woods. It’s almost as bad as a outrunner on a castle esc.
LOL its not quiet at all!!
Gotta love the Fusion!
Ok im going to order a few of these for my sport and 10.2!!!!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘 Which wheels are you running ???
I use all kinds of wheels from Vitavon to Treal and TGH and all the cheap ones on Amazon
I've seen the fusion 1800kv melt in a 2speed transmission running an 11t pinion
We have quite a few of them locally, issues happen though
Love the videos dude!! Would like to see how you set this motor up on the program card… I’m having issues with my max reverse item, when I lower the value of the item it slows my forward motion down and not my reverse 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ maybe it’s still got some kinks to work out lol
Pulled the stickers off the windows to make them clear
the first few seconds sold me. hahah
I made a big mistake not pre ordering one of these! I have the 1800kv right now in my Sport and it’s my favorite motor by far.
I’d like to see how the Fusion is in SV2.
A Very Cool Mod!!!
Awesome video thx
Love my 1800kv Fusion! Will have to order the 2300kv version soon. Can you use the same programming card from the 1800kv or do you have to purchase a separate one specific to the 2300kv???🤔
I used the programming card from my hobbywing 1080 and it worked fine. You just need to use the sticker that comes with the motor as it only has like 13 parameters bot 15
Adding to the first comment you can also use the card from your 1800 KV motor. Just reference the parameters in your 2300 KV manual. The first item has an additional setting for the forward/revers options. I think the rest are the same.
Every time I order something on Amazon I go threw your Amazon links.. hope it helps
thank you buddy
I badly want to test 2 of these out in my 22lb Clodbuster 1/6th build --- hard to decide to replace what works so well already but would be nice to get rid of all the wiring of twin ESC's and twin brushless motors. Can they run on 4s though? or 6s maybe even?
wanting to drop this into my gen 9, somehow fried the stock ESC so i guess its upgrade time
That servo 🤪
I hope to see you try this motor in the redcat ascent
man thats awesome!
so nice performprom this fusion HB awesome
What you say compared to the axe I use the 2100kv love the lunch on it and turbo settings!
Good rc mod, thanks for sharing good 👍
were you using a 2s or 3s battery?
The 2300 is super snappy in reverse and drive. I need to adjust the settings
Cool rundown! Did you change the BEC setting?
🤘🏼🤘🏼
I just picked one of these up if you run it at 7.4 bec will it fry the locking servos? Not sure if they can handle 7.4 or is there a way to put 7.4 to the steering and leave 6.0 on the locking servos
Nice review.
I was told even though the 2300 is shorter than the 1800 , it's wider. I'm curious if the rotor is also wider.
not sure I'd have to open it up and I haven't got that done yet
@@ExocagedRC I'd honestly be scared to open it up....I'd probably beak something. Hahaha
Why did you buy a motor mount that doesn't fit properly? I never broke factory motor mount
👍😁
"Funny" that you purposely got a new Fusion Pro specifically for the TRX4. Why do I say that? Because I not only pre-ordered one of these, and because I received mine a little less than two weeks ago (yes, I actually had mine before Hobbywing Direct started shipping to customers...I think Amain made a 'mistake', and shipped mine early), but because I installed mine in the TRX4 Kit I'm in the process of building. Still need to decide on a body. Any suggestions (especially a Toyota body...and, even better, a hard-body) for a 12.3" wheelbase?
Well, just about any 12.3 body will fit, possible trimming of fenders and stuff is needed
@@ExocagedRC I know "almost any 12.3" body will fit"...but, I was inquiring of anyone knew of Toyota (especially hard) bodies.
The reason I was being specific about Toyota bodies is this. There's an online vendor out of Arizona who, on their website, advertises a particular Toyota LC70 body as being 312mm (ie. 12.3")...except that the manufacturer lists the current version of said body as being 324mm. Now, it is possible that the body the vendor is selling is a no-longer-in-production body, which might have been 312mm. In order to get 'clarification', I contacted the vendor and asked whether it was 312mm, or 324mm. The vendor responded back with a "snarky" reply (here's the reply I received: "either way its very small, and the rear bed can be spaced out farther 323mm wheelbase"), yet also never answered my question. I responded back, with the following: "That's not what I asked. I'm sure the product's box clearly indicates what the wheelbase is. Can you just provide that info, please?", to which the vendor hasn't bothered to reply. This is why I was asking if anyone knew of any 12.3" wheelbase Toyota bodies...especially a hard body.
I have the Firma 2-1 2300kv on my ‘21 Bronco and its basically the same. Joe can you still use the same Programing card from other Fusion for this 2300kv fusion?
I was just about to ask the same question. Same programming card as the 1800kv or do you have to purchase a separate one specific to the 2300kv???🤔
You can use the same program card. Just reference the manual with the 2300KV. The first item has an additional option for the forward/reversing setting.
You cant.. I tested a lot of spektrum rebranded Hobbywing systems and they do not work with Hobbywing LCD program cards and Simple program card.
They require the Spektrum branded hobbywing program cards as they seem to be tied in by software.
Spectrum is an all inclusive company. They force you to buy thier radios, receivers because they want to bring you into their realm of rc electronics. It's great stuff, but you won't be able to use generic open source controls.
Would you recommend the Fusion SE 1800kv? I know its not as good as the 550 2300kv.
Can you see if that motor will fit in a stock Capra 🤔 or are we stuck with 540 or upgraded skid
Are you sponsored by vitavon or an owner?? None of my business, I just wondering.
He’s a preferred seller for Vitavon for the US
correct I am a dealer for Vitavon
Nice vid, but ill take a redcat gen8 v2 any day over the traxxas. Design is old & tired. (IMHO)🤷
to me the redcat is a clunky design, both have been around for a while now
@@ExocagedRC
Thats traxxas & axial & everything available. Somebody NEEDS a new,top notch something 🤯😜!
Everyone needs a new design.
Can you do video on 6s lol ? I think that would be awesome
Can you put Traxxas Pro Scale Lightkit with this fusion setup?
Exactly what I would like to know.
@@NOSfusion me 2
My fusion pro 2300kv sometimes just shuts off when I drive in high gear (trx6 hauler)
When in lowgear there is no issue.. but in high gear it just switches off when I hit the throttle. Sometimes I just drives in high gear nd sometimes it just shuts off. It doesn’t make any sense. Somebody knows the problem?
When you're talking about the motor, what does FOC stand for?
Field Oriented Control, basically the esc will keep the motor at a certain rpm loaded or not
everything I've read says that bettery tray limits travel. is this true
Did you change the servos for the transmission and differentials?
Does the fusion pro power the RX or would I need a bec? I’m planning to run a direct power servo
Hey exo love the videos great stuff! I installed mine today and my steering is reversed any help anyone would be much appreciated please and thank you!!
How does this Motor do on a weighted car...I'm looking to put it in my wraith that's around 10lbs
should be fine
If your running a traxxas battery, what adapter would you use to go to the fusion pro?
Will the hobbywing work with the TQI blue tooth?
Just curious if you’ve had any experience with the Spektrum 2 n 1 vs this one? Great videos Joe!
They are basically the same... The Spektrum unit is a rebranded Fusion.
Is the Spektrum compare to the Fusion or the Fusion Pro?
How’s the servo after using the fusion pro? The new bec is at 6amp on this 1
didn't notice any difference
hi, i buy the fusion pro 2300 kv motor for my trx4 sport. did you keep the original motor pinion? can you give me the parameter for this motor for expedition? thanks for all.
Will it fit in the Vanquish Phoenix?
Hey. What is the difference to hw axe ecs and motor? I have 2300kv combo.
Is it only eliminated esc as a separate piece?
Fusion has:
-Less powerful system compared to the AXE.
-Lack of RPM/Throttle settings.
-Lack of Bluetooth connectivity.
-Lack of motor swapping capability (As in just buy a different motor to change KV).
Gains over the AXE:
-Simplicity.
-Weight reduction.
Is the program card included?
Mine did not come with one
Was it with a 3S battery?
What's the biggest tooth pinion you can go with this with stock trx4 spur.
So far 11tooth hits 13mph
12 tooth hit 14.3 mph
I wanna get to 15ish so a 14tooth max?
I went to a 20t... I need a metal spur gear now
Hey was this done on 2s or 3s ?
Quick question, do I need to buy a different motor mounting plate in order to install this motor on my Traxxas TRX4 Defender? Or can I use the stock one?
it bolts right on the stock mount
thanks! just got it, should I use the same 2 mounting holes?
What did you program your settings to?
Lo❤
Will this fit in a Vanphish 410 pro?
yeah I think so
580 is closer to 550 then 540 so at minimal its a 550 it wil not fit qhen you have a dig on your rig😅
Dont put Aluminum where it isnt Needed LOL
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