"Debaucherous" is not a word - the word is 'debauched'. In spite of his short reign Edward was well loved by his people - not least for his love of pleasure as opposed to the prudery of his mother's era. The term "Edwardian Era" is still one of nostalgia - the good time before the storm that broke later.
yes I was wondering if anyone realised that this was not a word, but a silly thing made up. Edward was popular, after the gloomy years of Vic's reign....
Prince Albert went to talk to Bertie about his behaviour in Cambridge England, not Ireland..He became ill after walking in the rain with Bertie and died Two weeks later.
It's true that the Queen blamed the Prince of Wales for that walk in the rain causing his father's death. Actually, Albert had been in poor health for at least 2 years, and died of typhoid fever not Crohn's - neither of which has anything to do with getting cold in rain - although he probably already had Crohn's along with other chronic diseases. For various reasons, Victoria & Albert's marriage while very passionate (9 children) was not actually very happy. I think the posthumous "cult" of Albert, the Albert Memorial, the Royal Albert Hall, general Albert-worshipping, and the fact that the Queen remained in deepest mourning for nearly 40y till she died, is perhaps more plausible as a deep sense of guilt in Queen Victoria rather than grief.
Learned this from a friend in Australia. When confronted with the Camilla factor, Charles said, "I am not going to be the first prince of Wales without a mistress!"
@@carey579Yep. Marriage is for duty; mistresses are the compensation. Aristocrats are well known for bed hopping within their social circle. I believe that Princess Anne has a fling with Andrew Parker Bowles before he married Camilla. Prince William has allegedly had an affair as well. The Duke of Edinburgh allegedly had several affairs.
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 I know and Charles may well have said that but I'm always sceptical of these anecdotal quotes which are so perfect that they sound made up by creative dramatic minds :)
She had to play by the rules of this man’s world. Doubt Edward would invite his wife’s lover - there isn’t even a derogatory term for a male version - if it was the other way around,
@@carey579 There is a derogatory word - cuckold - for a man whose wife cheats, but not for a woman whose husband cheats. Funny how much language can tell you about society! (Sorry, not really funny.)
Bertie was the epitome of the lovable rogue. No matter how scandalous his personal life, almost everybody loved him. He was gracious and witty, often the life of the party. And yes, he was remarkably considerate to people that in that time would have been considered socially inferior. Given his voracious sexual appetites it is a wonder he did not contract a social disease. As for his later health problems, there was more than just his overeating to blame (for which he gained the friendly nickname "tum tum"). Bertie was a lifelong chain smoker. By most estimates he smoked between 12-16 cigars a day along with as many as twenty cigarettes. It's quite likely he died from a combination of emphysema and congestive heart failure.
People often forget that Edward shaped the alliance with France that brought Britain into WW1. Edward saw the threat of German Naval Bases in the Channel Ports, and just how ambitious the Kaiser was.
A great book about Edward 7 by Stephen Clark. "Edward, a English king , made in France". he was almost preordained to have an affinity with the French since a teenager.
I’m glad you said. Allegedly . - historians say his wife invited his mistress to come to his bedside. A kind and caring deed just like what his wife would do. So much rumour comes on this channel.
4:42- One time Victoria candidly admitted a large part of her dislike for the Prince of Wales, 'Bertie is my caricature!' Yep, she had hoped her eldest son would grow up to be like Prince Albert but, instead he not only resembled her more (unlike his eldest sister Vicky who took after their father in looks and intellect) but he also had her strong temper and emotions (while Albert was far more of patient person)! Oh, and she had this vision of being the progenitor of an endless line of King Albert's but that didn't work out either!
Why has no one ever mentioned that Queen Victoria hated the “Kensington System” and yet that is exactly what she and Albert did to the future Edward VII?
@@user-fl3im1qy2o Because Victoria and Albert were trying to teach him to be as scholarly a monarch as possible via strict education so he could be an informed and knowledgeable leader whereas the Duchess of Kent and Conroy strictly wanted Victoria to be totally dependent on them so they could rule through her. I'll grant that Bertie's parents were stricter than they should have been but they had a pragmatic instead of a draconian goal!
I guess that is true. My point is that their plan obviously failed and instead of finding a better solution, they made their son feel bad about who he was.
You did a fine job with that, and got through his obvious and mostly wondrous foibles to the kind and intelligent man he was and the last English king to do the work of a monarch, albeit of the constitutional variety. He's become all told, my favorite English King. "Edward the Carresser"! How could I have missed that one. That got you my subscription alone, and eagerly. Thank you!
One of Edward's favourite tricks to amuse children was to slap pieces of buttered toast on each thigh and shake his legs, so that they slid down his trousers. The children had to guess which slice would make it to the ground first. It ruined his suits, of course, but to him a new made-to-measure suit from Saville Row was nothing.
His Majesty loved his grandchildren and always tried to make time for them. Unfortunately, history ONLY wants to malign a man who was horribly and abominably treated by his parents in an untenable system, much like his mother who had to suffer the Kensington system from her mother and her mother's lover.
I agree. Bertie and Alexandria also brought their own children up in an incredibly liberal way for the time. He had his faults, but was an extremely popular king who everyone liked. @@davidrubin8228
@davidrubin8228 in the meantime his subjects were living in extreme poverty , children being sent down the mines , and working in cotton Mills. They were privileged and still are today .
It's a shame so much of Edward's legacy involves his many mistresses. He was actually a very progressive monarch who achieved many good things for his subjects. There's something very likable and human about him that carries down through the generations. If we're completely honest, Prince Andrew is far more debauched than his famous gg grandfather.
Promiscuity and charisma are trademarks of pathological narcissism. Entitlement to be promiscuous with other mens wives is a measuring contest to assure themselves and others of their superiority. Add addictions to food and gambling, and probably alcohol given the lifestyle, (and possibly other substances popular at the time), and there is a clear picture of a very impaired personality.@@MyOutsideSocks
Give me a break. People of power have always gotten whatever they want, that is how human nature works. I am sure old Bertie rogered more than a few 12 year old girls and boys in his time as most such people always do. Andrew is not the exception, he is the rule and one of the few dumb enough to get caught.
@MyOutsideSocks Many, many powerful men in American politics have destroyed their political careers through sexual misconduct. Donald Trump seems to be the only one in which his MAGA followers turn a blind eye to his serial adultery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
Do we really believe he had enough clout or political will to achieve much at all for those who paid his board and lodgings? Or that there’s anything likeable about knowing you’re going to represent your god as head of your faith whilst repeatedly and unapologetically breaking one of its main tenets? Your generosity exceeds mine here, but I admire your link to his sexually incontinent gg grandson:).
he reigned just 10 years and did jack shit as king except reign…he had no political power, he had no clue about what was actually going on in the empire: everything that he got credited with was due to Parliament and the Prime Ministers
I think a lot of his problems had to do with his mother - even though she had a boatload of kids, she HATED children. She didn’t hide it, either, she spoke about it with her mother, and spoke about it with her daughter when she was pregnant with her first child. So, he didn’t get what he needed in the most important years of his life, the first few years.
If you read up a little on the "Kensington System" that her own mother tried to use on her to render young Victoria weak and entirely reliant on her mother for all support, her attitudes towards children might come into sharper focus.
@@katie7748 She didn't hate children or babies. Because she made a couple of oft repeated negative comments about them didn't equate to her hating them.
My great grandfather was one of his footmen, and he used to go with him to all the various "play houses" . There is a story that he had an affair and child with a Polish princess Zinzan, the child was given to the footmans family to raise, i have no proof obviously but i can well belive it.
I have always been amazed at how Edward has gone down in history as a good king. He indeed led a thoroughly licentious life. However, his son George V, his grandson George VI, and great grand daughter Elizabeth led upright lives, promoting faithfulness to the family unit in society. May God bless them, and may they rest in peace.
Thoroughly licentious life, NOT something to be celebrated. I wonder how much STD's were spread around as in our current era but rarely acknowledged to be epidemic as it is.
Many historians have conjectured on whether Edward VII would have been able to prevent the First World War. He was an extremely able diplomat. If he hadn't loved cigars and food so much, he just might have been able to save Europe from cataclysm.
I've seen that theory and I think it was noted that Edward and his nephew Kaiser Wilhelm outright hated each other because of Wilhelm's hatred of Bertie's lifestyle and Bertie disliked how horribly Wilhelm treated his mother Victoria Bertie's older sister. Wilhelm got all the bravado of being a British prince and showed nothing but contempt for British people. He also thought his uncle was supposed to walk a pace behind him because he was an Kaiser/King/Emperor and everyone was beneath him including Victoria.
@Summergirl. His force was hus wife. She was sister to the zarina in Russia and sister ti the King of Grece and the King of Denmark. She had the relation to Europe.
@@angelau1194 True but I think Harry blames the pomp and bravado for the death of his mother. I don't think he ever got the help he needed to really deal with her loss. It's one of those things about people not understanding mental health correctly and seeing it as a weakness.
Edward 7 was kept down by his parents but when he became King he was a brilliant success. After years of Victorian morality stifling society the new Edwardian age was a brilliant success. One of Britains most beloved and triumphant monarchies. He had many mistress's but he shares that honour with the majority of Britsh Monarchs. It is the rare exceptions who were wver faithful. Nonetheless, very few monarchs have been so admired or loved as Edward and the naming of the age after him helps prove his ultimate success.
@@user-qe1sx8et3b ??? Uncertain of your statement .. appears rather moralistic? In the first place, Edward is responsible for the modern British monarchy. He was able to keep the crown in favour with both sides of Parliament and his personal charm was much admired universally, indeed he is accredited with keeping Europe away from War. His family relationship towards his son George is one of the kindest ever recorded and George himself regarded his father as a friend or brother in intimate closeness...thus Edward was a main architect to his sons reign. In the second place we can see how Edward held the common touch and was even when he was crown prince insisted upon showing himself up close and to his people. His smoking, jovial and kindly nature, his sense of humour and open character meant that at the start of the reign, many feared he would be a disaster but he won his critics over and his age is a tribute to him personally, especially coming from his monolithic Mother's reign. Literally The Victorian era followed at once by the Edwardian speaks volumes as to his truly great reign. You suggest his womanising was a bad thing but in the world of monarchy it often is a desirable thing because kindness can result, good humour and a gentle understanding as it did with both Charles 2 and Edward 7, both of whom were popular and well loved. So greater than your notion of statemanship is the ability to show friendly approachable character and in this Edward excelled.
He wasn't kept down by his parents - they tried to mould him into the best educated and most knowledgeable Prince of Wales ever but while intelligent, he didn't have the same capacity for voracious learning like his elder sister, the educational regime they designed for him was too much and badly affected him.
@@zzzbbbooo Generally Historians agree that he was not valued by his parents. His mother distrusted him and later blamed him for causing the death of Albert. Unlike his parents, he realised the monarchy needed a common touch and often tried to break the restrictive expectations of his Parents. He was never allowed to shine and his parents restrictions on his freedom undoubtedly caused him pain.....so I am sorry but yes he was kept down by his parents and many regarded his succession as a cause of alarm. His flourishing as Monarch thus would amaze many.
@@raymondmartin318 Moralistic? You should say A-moral which many of you seem to celebrate. Many sorrows come from this terrible lifestyle for the participants and for society itself!
Strange fact from this period. Syphilis was rife and one of the effects of this was that you couldn't straighten your little finger. The upper class were well known for having affairs so to prove you didn't have Syphilis the secret signal of drinking tea with your " pinky " straight developed. This is how the middle class started doing it, not knowing the reason why, by aping the upper class
Not accurate at all. Tenosynovitis is a possible side-effect of untreated syphilis, but it is not that specific. Children born with congenital syphilis can have a very shortened and deformed little finer - the Du Bois sign - which cnnot be extended in an affected way as described.
What nonsense! Queen Alexandra sent for Alice Keppel when Edward was dying. If the rest of your history is as erroneous as this, won't bother to look again.
I enjoyed this video until the very end when you mentioned Camilla. She was born Camilla Shand, not Parker Bowles, and it's a shame that everyone feels it appropriate to refer to her by the name of her first husband.
I'm sure that she must be very charming because she isn't, at all, striking. But, they both are adulterers. That is a Big no no in God's book. I realize that we are all human... Yada yada yada ... But, Charles shouldn't be king as a part of that title is defender of the faith. He isn't faithful in anything except his baser habits. He tells Christians to reframe from wishing others Merry Christmas to keep from offending "others", he always womanized with married women, even the wives of his friends, he cheated on his wife and those are all things that the defender of the faith shouldn't indulge in.
As a Catholic it galls me that the English King holds on to the title: DEFENDER OF THE FAITH. Ah, well, if it makes him feel better, let him have it 😂😢😇
@@dragonmartijn Actually, the movement to reform the Catholic Church of ad been around for awhile. And it Certainly needed reforming! The lecherous king simply used that "reformation" as an excuse to kick out his dissenters within the church and replace them with yes-men. The Reformed Church doesn't agree with divorce either
When all this crowd is resurrected, he'll be so happy and so will his former mistress, to find out that 100 plus yrs later, Mrs. Keppel great great granddaughter became Queen Consort to his great great grandson, Charles.
Not sure you get the facts 100% correct...but I love the voice and the humor. Also, it seems that any discrepancies will be corrected by your astute views.😊
Suc a shame fir William & Harry to watch the cheaters who put their mother in the situation hat killed her....to watch them be crowned most have been awful.
I like how so many people talk about Charles straying with Camilla but they never say a bad word about Diana and the many many men she screwed around with.
After Edward VII died, his son George V took the throne. Probably seeing how much his mother suffered, he banished Alice Keppel from court, remained faithful and devoted to his wife Mary of Teck, who was initially engaged to his older brother.
Was Alice Keppel heartbroken at the news of Edward's demise? We don't know. If she was, her behaviour is understandable. She wasn't desperate to see Edward in order to take selfies that she would sell to Netflix. The narrator accepts Edward's refusal to control his behaviour (any evidence that he used birth control?) while expecting his mistresses to quietly accept their fates.
Did Alice Kepple conceive any children during her affair with King Edward while she was still legally married to her first husband? Perhaps, Camilla is one of King Edward's descendants. Therefore, could Queen Camilla legally claim the Throne as the sole heir after King Charles' death? If so, what a mess indeed! That might be why they are keeping it all secret about the Royal couple's alleged other son Simon Durante-Day outside of marriage. Eventually, there will be more information to come out.
Charles married his mistress. Dumb that he is, he should have asked Camilla to wait for him when he had the opportunity. Had she known Charles loved her, she would have waited for him - communicate.
@@masada2828 My understanding is that Charles and Camilla did want to get married, but Charles was not allowed to do so by his parents, because Camilla had previously had another couple of boyfriends. Having been rejected, Camilla married Parker-Bowles in 1973, while Charles was on a long naval exercise, and soon afterwards had a son. They later had a daughter in 1978. Camilla and Charles resumed their relationship in the late 70s before Charles married Diana. It was not until after Diana's death that the Queen accepted the presence of Camilla. I think it is unreasonable to expect Camilla to have waited for 30 years on the off-chance that the Queen would come round to accepting her.
King Charles, when he was Prince of Wales for decades, used his time to create important charitable initiatives and completely changed the role of Prince of Wales from what it had been in the past.
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Weird takeaway obese with emphesema and congestive heart failure. If he was content why was he so compulsive? This is like a child in a sweet shop ideal level of emotional maturity.
I did not realize there was a lineal connection between Alice Keppel and Queen Camilla! How the wheels of history turn! AND how history repeats itself from generation unto generation! As for the description of Edward #7 as the"most debaucherous King", I can hear Henry #8 yelling , "Off with his Head!" because surely he holds that title!
Queen Elizabeth is the shining example of how a Real Monarch should behave. No scandals or problems with her personal behavior and reign. She was a shining example of a Real Christian. She feared God which is the beginning of wisdom. She was admired by many world leaders because they watched her behavior and grace throughout her time on the throne. She will be missed !
What you say is true. Even as a Yank I had enough sense to admire her. That said I always felt sort of bad for her because as.practical matter, she had very little free choice about what she was going to DO in her life.
This is an example of a monarch. They have that right to become an example of a faithful and loyal servant to their country. To be the best servant a country is capable of producing as a citizen. Their standards are expected to be very high. At any time a monarch can abdicate if they so choose. We actually as civilians should do the same thing when we work as servants in our workplace. Thank You Elizabeth for your comment.@@elizabethsohler6516
@@user-sv7fd6es6s Do you read the word of God? It says the beginning of wisdom is to fear God. Would you jump out of an aircraft without a parachute? Of course not. It is because you fear the consequences of what would happen. It is there to protect you. So you need that fear to be protected. Jesus spoke on hell as well as he spoke about heaven. He appeared in my home in the spring of 2021. So he really exists. It is why I spend my time warning people. Just like I would warn someone about skating on a thin pond. The bible warns us that when we stand before him in the end. We will have no excuse. Just like your car is the evidence of someone creating a car. The world, animals, the earth and universe is the evidence of another creator. All of this did not just puff into existence. Scripture reminds us that it is appointed unto man once to die then the judgements. God provided a manual (bible) and a Pastor to help you understand he exists.
@@user-sv7fd6es6s "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." It is biblical. Fear in the sense of reverence, hating evil as He does, including sexual sins which is to protect us from the ultimate consequences.
Why do history narrators always say 'Heir to the throne of England? Its been the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain since the act of union in 1707
Just because Camilla's ancestral great-grandmother had an intimate relationship with King Edward, it did not give her a right to where she is today. The late Queen and her mother had right to keep her far away from the Royal Family at all costs years ago. Per my understanding, the late Queen Mother - King Charles' grandmother, was responsible for finding places (castles) for the pair to carry out their rendezvous while both were married. She was not the nice, sweet little old granny that we were led to believe. Read Lady Collin Campbell's book about the late Queen Mother for more information.
Also it was historical evidence that Camilla is gr.grate anty for Charles because Alice Keppel had a child with King after all.That why Charles could nor merry Camilla at first place but she also was not a virgin !
If that is so, that was the only decent thing she (Charles III's grandmother) ever did. You are far too sanctimonious about Charles and Camilla. They wanted to marry years ago, but Charles' parents would not permit it for some reason. I can't understand why so many people on here are demonising Camilla.
Camilla did not wnat to marry Charles, she was in love iwth Andrew. But the queen would probalby not have OK'ed a marriage because Cam had a sexual past@@mfjdv2020
Bertie was one of the most beloved and popular monarchs Britain has ever known. He was a kind, gentle, warm-hearted human being, the complete opposite to his parents in every way. He was also a hugely successful diplomat. The people called him 'Good old Teddy' and 'the Peacemaker'. So bloody what if he had lots of mistresses? I don't blame him in the least, after the way those disgusting parents of his treated him. If you disagree, just imagine how it must have been for him growing up with those two cruel, stern icebergs who never showed him any love or encouragement, plus a horrible elder sister and even more horrible tutors. The only tutor who was kind to him, was sent away by his father. I'm very happy for him that he was finally able to live a little after that unspeakable Victoria kicked the bucket at long last.
I’ve read some comments in which some were outraged about “King of England,” then say he was “King of the United Kingdom.” That is somewhat incorrect. In 1801, England became United Kingdom of Great Britain. Which United Kingdom of Great Britain became United Kingdom in 1922, or 1927.
Chuck Windsor met Camilla at a Polo match in 1970. She said to him my Great Grandmother and your Great Grandfather had an affair, how about it? The awakard Gordosn Schoolboy was never the same after the experienced woman showed him hows its done. Chuck wanted to marry her but Papa & Mama said no dice! They wanted him to marry a beautiful girl from an aristocratic family. Chuck was sent away in the military and Camilla married but after her children were born, thry picked up where they left off in secret. Chuck bought Highgrove because it was down the street from his mistress. Chuck married the beautiful Lady Diana Spencer. He did the deed so they could have an heir and a spare and continued to get action from his older more experienced woman. He left Diana, Princess of Wales at Kensington Palace. He told her he wasn't going to be the only Prince of Wales to not have a mistress.
She did. Queen Alexandra and Mrs. Kepple were actually very friendly - as was Queen Alexandra with Lily Langtree, another of Edward's many lady friends. Difficult to accept at first, Alexandra came to accept Edward's affairs - especially when the ladies in question respected the social conventions and norms and maintained the facade required. Alexandra even went out of her way to receive both of them socially, and supported Langtree's career when she was first making her way as an actress. Say what you like about "Edward the Caresser", but Queen Alexandra was a classy lady.
The United Kingdom is made up of four countries of which England is only one. Where you see this written instantly tells you the writer has a poor grasp of the subject at hand unless it is referring to events before the Union of the Crowns. @@bahr-pq4uo
@@bahr-pq4uo 'England' is not a sovereign country and has not been since 1707. England is merely one of the home nations within the United Kingdom. In fact, officially England is not even a country, as it has no parliament or first minister of its own (unlike Scotland and Wales).
I always wonder how different things would have been if Victoria married a different man (and had her obsession been a bit less) or if Albert had lived.
She might have married her cousin George, who was born and educated in the UK. That would probably have been a lot better for all concerned. But for some reason she preferred Albert. Or maybe _dearest_ Uncle Leopold gently pushed her in Albert's direction. Albert was his nephew after all. It's all pretty tragic really. Albert's mother (to whom he was devoted) was banished from their home after his dad found out she had a lover. Albert and his brother never even had the chance to say goodbye to her. And Victoria as a young girl was full of fun, loved dancing and laughing. But dearest Albert soon changed all that 'frivolity' and turned her into as cold a prude as he was himself.
It's particularly annoying that a SCOTTISH commentator on this video repeatedly refers to ENGLAND, ENGLISH society, the ENGLISH government and, in particular, incorrectly describes Edward as heir to the throne of ENGLAND (no such title since 1707!). England is NOT the same thing as the United Kingdom, of which Victoria and Edward WERE monarchs, the correct adjective to describe the people and government of the UK is BRITISH (a term not used once here). What's more Edward spent most of his life as Prince of WALES and is often seen in the photos used wearing a traditional SCOTTISH outfit - kilt, sporran etc.
Charles Moran wasn't just shooting ponies and making his wife Harriet watch. They were Harriet's beloved, special ponies. He made her watch him shoot them in his anger abt her unfaithfulness. It was emotional abuse/ possibly a thinly veiled threat of what he could do to a being if he chose. Even though there was legal precedent to his case of obtaining q divorce for reasons of insanity, that argument only worked for the wife's 'insanity'. Spouses of cheating men just had to suck it up. He was able to ensure his wife lived the rrst of her life in a mental asylum with this legal argument. He just had to destroy her ponies in her sight on top of it. Obs what she did wasn't right. What he did in response wasn't rigth either. He just lived in a patriarchal and inhumne society that allowed that kind of behavior towards one's wife and destruction of her ponies
I knew a man like Edward VII, charming, full of fun, divinely sexy, passionate but kind. He just loved women, including his own wife deeply. I think like Alexandra, some wives are rare enough to understand that stifling his passions would be worse for their love. She was very smart in this way. Luckily Edward didn't bring home any std's considering all the women he bedded. I never knew about Edward & Alexandra thanks for this, it did fascinate me. Subscribed.👍
I haven’t read a ton of material on the subject but what I’ve read indicates that for most aristocratic women (eligible to marry a king or prince) it was common to be raised to expect him to have affairs. The training for the girls would be how to “manage” the lovers so as to avoid scandal/embarrassment.
@@wleighkst1671I would say you're correct historically, but still in the modern times-either from generational wisdom or innate practical common sense, there are women today who tolerate/practice this "royal" acceptance in their marriage.
@@smorgasbroad1132 agreed but from what I garnered it was almost part of a young aristocratic woman’s lessons from her mother/governess. Perhaps it is still and I am simply unaware but I don’t believe it is. I think each woman chose how they dealt/deal with it today even. Maybe “a more formal acceptance” then compared to now. (Or I’m just not aristocratic enough to know) 😉😁❤️
@@wleighkst1671 I've considered in these situations maybe the wife only wants to do it 2 X',s a month and she's happy and knows if he doesn't do it more often he's not going to be happy. With affairs scandals are avoided. Yoko Ono hooked John Lennon up with May Ping for a while.
@@wleighkst1671 So Camilla was trained in School serving a gentleman - aristocratic, that why she was moving around upper class partying closer to RF activities. In her family Alis Keppel was direction in their life also Camilla inherited from AK money. It was pure Camilla's acting to get Charles, she been asking some ,,friends,, how to get access to him..rest she just sad about gr.gr.parents lovers and added - HOW about us?
Even more if they did not sign it away in the Magna Carta. In that era, Genghis Khan and Chinese emperor ruled 1/4 of the world and you cannot even look at them without permission.
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"Debaucherous" is not a word - the word is 'debauched'.
In spite of his short reign Edward was well loved by his people - not least for his love of pleasure as opposed to the prudery of his mother's era. The term "Edwardian Era" is still one of nostalgia - the good time before the storm that broke later.
yes I was wondering if anyone realised that this was not a word, but a silly thing made up. Edward was popular, after the gloomy years of Vic's reign....
Prince Albert went to talk to Bertie about his behaviour in Cambridge England, not Ireland..He became ill after walking in the rain with Bertie and died Two weeks later.
Back then people believed all sorts of things so it isn't unreasonable for her to believe thats why Albert passed.
It's true that the Queen blamed the Prince of Wales for that walk in the rain causing his father's death.
Actually, Albert had been in poor health for at least 2 years, and died of typhoid fever not Crohn's - neither of which has anything to do with getting cold in rain - although he probably already had Crohn's along with other chronic diseases.
For various reasons, Victoria & Albert's marriage while very passionate (9 children) was not actually very happy.
I think the posthumous "cult" of Albert, the Albert Memorial, the Royal Albert Hall, general Albert-worshipping, and the fact that the Queen remained in deepest mourning for nearly 40y till she died, is perhaps more plausible as a deep sense of guilt in Queen Victoria rather than grief.
"Edward the Caresser" might be the cleverest pun ever.
It’s sad how he disrespected Alexandra and didn’t claim or provide for his illegitimate children but he wasn’t the only one.
Learned this from a friend in Australia. When confronted with the Camilla factor, Charles said, "I am not going to be the first prince of Wales without a mistress!"
@@johnb3289Did he really 🙄😂
@@carey579Yep. Marriage is for duty; mistresses are the compensation. Aristocrats are well known for bed hopping within their social circle. I believe that Princess Anne has a fling with Andrew Parker Bowles before he married Camilla.
Prince William has allegedly had an affair as well. The Duke of Edinburgh allegedly had several affairs.
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 I know and Charles may well have said that but I'm always sceptical of these anecdotal quotes which are so perfect that they sound made up by creative dramatic minds :)
@@carey579 It does sound rather dramatic🎭🎭🎭🎭 🙂🙂🙂but it probably reflects Prince Charles's attitude at the time.
Queen Alexandra invited Mrs. Keppel to King Edward’s deathbed. It was kind of her. There were no dramatics, such as you describe. That’s a fiction.
That's the story I heard too - the ultimate in wifely kindness.
Still, kind stories don't get clicks. 😞
Thankyou for your comment.
It is correct. Always knew the story,she was invited.
She had to play by the rules of this man’s world. Doubt Edward would invite his wife’s lover - there isn’t even a derogatory term for a male version - if it was the other way around,
@@carey579 There is a derogatory word - cuckold - for a man whose wife cheats, but not for a woman whose husband cheats. Funny how much language can tell you about society! (Sorry, not really funny.)
Wow I stand corrected - there is a feminine equivalent of cuckold - it's cuckquean! Who knew?
Much of the controversies in Edward’s early life where caused by Queen Victoria not giving him any useful role.
Bertie was the epitome of the lovable rogue. No matter how scandalous his personal life, almost everybody loved him. He was gracious and witty, often the life of the party. And yes, he was remarkably considerate to people that in that time would have been considered socially inferior. Given his voracious sexual appetites it is a wonder he did not contract a social disease. As for his later health problems, there was more than just his overeating to blame (for which he gained the friendly nickname "tum tum"). Bertie was a lifelong chain smoker. By most estimates he smoked between 12-16 cigars a day along with as many as twenty cigarettes. It's quite likely he died from a combination of emphysema and congestive heart failure.
There’s no proof that he did not catch an STD.
Just like there's no proof he had a STD @@glancycorner7425
People often forget that Edward shaped the alliance with France that brought Britain into WW1. Edward saw the threat of German Naval Bases in the Channel Ports, and just how ambitious the Kaiser was.
@@thehowlingmisogynist9871 The Kaiser was his own nephew, out of his eldest sister Vicky.
I beg to differ. Some (including his own adult children) found his personality loud and over-bearing, not everyone who knew him was a fan!
A great book about Edward 7 by Stephen Clark. "Edward, a English king , made in France". he was almost preordained to have an affinity with the French since a teenager.
A British King, you fool.
Well at least he didn’t behead his wives ala King Henry VIII.
Valid point . Then again maybe he didn't want to end up in the Tower?😊
have you no knowledge of history?
@@glen7318 Only my fair share, Do you mean to say Bertie did his share of beheadings?😉
Alice Keppel - the current "Queen" Camilla's great great grandmother. I guess being a royal mistress was a family tradition
Great grand mother not Great great grand son.
OMG that mistress is Camilla’s great great grandmother ?! How is that possible ? Man j got to look into that . What a wish washy
@@margritpiepes8242 she great grand mother not Great great grand mother
Intergenerational sin. By that time the Puritans and their views were long gone to America where that is still frowned upon.
Queen Camilla is Queen Camilla, no quotation marks apply. Like it or not it is so, by law.
I heard it a different way. Queen Alexandra invited Alice Keppel to his deathbed. There was none of the “waving a letter from the King” nonsense.
Queen Alexandra knew how the game was played, so did Alice Keppel. It has been that way for centuries
Edward the Caresser ... I love it!
I’m glad you said. Allegedly . - historians say his wife invited his mistress to come to his bedside. A kind and caring deed just like what his wife would do. So much rumour comes on this channel.
his wife did send for Alice but she didn't want to do it. however, she had promised Bertie and so she had Alice come over
4:42- One time Victoria candidly admitted a large part of her dislike for the Prince of Wales, 'Bertie is my caricature!'
Yep, she had hoped her eldest son would grow up to be like Prince Albert but, instead he not only resembled her more (unlike his eldest sister Vicky who took after their father in looks and intellect) but he also had her strong temper and emotions (while Albert was far more of patient person)!
Oh, and she had this vision of being the progenitor of an endless line of King Albert's but that didn't work out either!
Why has no one ever mentioned that Queen Victoria hated the “Kensington System” and yet that is exactly what she and Albert did to the future Edward VII?
@@user-fl3im1qy2o I disagree!
@@wardarcade7452 Why?
@@user-fl3im1qy2o Because Victoria and Albert were trying to teach him to be as scholarly a monarch as possible via strict education so he could be an informed and knowledgeable leader whereas the Duchess of Kent and Conroy strictly wanted Victoria to be totally dependent on them so they could rule through her. I'll grant that Bertie's parents were stricter than they should have been but they had a pragmatic instead of a draconian goal!
I guess that is true. My point is that their plan obviously failed and instead of finding a better solution, they made their son feel bad about who he was.
You did a fine job with that, and got through his obvious and mostly wondrous foibles to the kind and intelligent man he was and the last English king to do the work of a monarch, albeit of the constitutional variety. He's become all told, my favorite English King. "Edward the Carresser"! How could I have missed that one. That got you my subscription alone, and eagerly. Thank you!
Edward VII - "I'm England's most debaucherous king!"
Charles II - "Hold my beer."
Henry VIII .... both of you, get out of my way! I AM # 1 when it comes to sexual escapades! Remember, "I am 'Enry the 8th, I am! I am!"
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Not another hold my beer comment. Say something original
The present King Charles reminds me of king Edward VII
And let's not forget George IV who had most of Bertie's vices and none of his virtues.
"Debaucherous???" Not heard of that one.
"Edward the Caresser", OMG, that made me LOL. Good for you, Bertie. :)
One of Edward's favourite tricks to amuse children was to slap pieces of buttered toast on each thigh and shake his legs, so that they slid down his trousers. The children had to guess which slice would make it to the ground first. It ruined his suits, of course, but to him a new made-to-measure suit from Saville Row was nothing.
His Majesty loved his grandchildren and always tried to make time for them. Unfortunately, history ONLY wants to malign a man who was horribly and abominably treated by his parents in an untenable system, much like his mother who had to suffer the Kensington system from her mother and her mother's lover.
I agree. Bertie and Alexandria also brought their own children up in an incredibly liberal way for the time. He had his faults, but was an extremely popular king who everyone liked. @@davidrubin8228
That's just weird and creepy
@davidrubin8228 in the meantime his subjects were living in extreme poverty , children being sent down the mines , and working in cotton Mills. They were privileged and still are today .
Second howler: I don't think "debaucherous" is a word. Unless you are combining "debauched" and "lecherous".
the public liked him
This is English. Portmanteau words are permitted.
Debaucherous is a word it is described as being "of a debauched lecherous nature". Unless I am very mistaken
Pedant !
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It's a shame so much of Edward's legacy involves his many mistresses. He was actually a very progressive monarch who achieved many good things for his subjects. There's something very likable and human about him that carries down through the generations. If we're completely honest, Prince Andrew is far more debauched than his famous gg grandfather.
Promiscuity and charisma are trademarks of pathological narcissism. Entitlement to be promiscuous with other mens wives is a measuring contest to assure themselves and others of their superiority. Add addictions to food and gambling, and probably alcohol given the lifestyle, (and possibly other substances popular at the time), and there is a clear picture of a very impaired personality.@@MyOutsideSocks
Give me a break. People of power have always gotten whatever they want, that is how human nature works. I am sure old Bertie rogered more than a few 12 year old girls and boys in his time as most such people always do. Andrew is not the exception, he is the rule and one of the few dumb enough to get caught.
@MyOutsideSocks
Many, many powerful men in American politics have destroyed their political careers through sexual misconduct. Donald Trump seems to be the only one in which his MAGA followers turn a blind eye to his serial adultery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
Do we really believe he had enough clout or political will to achieve much at all for those who paid his board and lodgings? Or that there’s anything likeable about knowing you’re going to represent your god as head of your faith whilst repeatedly and unapologetically breaking one of its main tenets? Your generosity exceeds mine here, but I admire your link to his sexually incontinent gg grandson:).
he reigned just 10 years and did jack shit as king except reign…he had no political power, he had no clue about what was actually going on in the empire: everything that he got credited with was due to Parliament and the Prime Ministers
I think a lot of his problems had to do with his mother - even though she had a boatload of kids, she HATED children. She didn’t hide it, either, she spoke about it with her mother, and spoke about it with her daughter when she was pregnant with her first child. So, he didn’t get what he needed in the most important years of his life, the first few years.
Yep. She loved making them but despised babies especially. What a horrid person.
If you read up a little on the "Kensington System" that her own mother tried to use on her to render young Victoria weak and entirely reliant on her mother for all support, her attitudes towards children might come into sharper focus.
@@katie7748 She didn't hate children or babies. Because she made a couple of oft repeated negative comments about them didn't equate to her hating them.
My great grandfather was one of his footmen, and he used to go with him to all the various "play houses" . There is a story that he had an affair and child with a Polish princess Zinzan, the child was given to the footmans family to raise, i have no proof obviously but i can well belive it.
I have always been amazed at how Edward has gone down in history as a good king. He indeed led a thoroughly licentious life. However, his son George V, his grandson George VI, and great grand daughter Elizabeth led upright lives, promoting faithfulness to the family unit in society. May God bless them, and may they rest in peace.
Thoroughly licentious life, NOT something to be celebrated. I wonder how much STD's were spread around as in our current era but rarely acknowledged to be epidemic as it is.
Many historians have conjectured on whether Edward VII would have been able to prevent the First World War. He was an extremely able diplomat. If he hadn't loved cigars and food so much, he just might have been able to save Europe from cataclysm.
I've seen that theory and I think it was noted that Edward and his nephew Kaiser Wilhelm outright hated each other because of Wilhelm's hatred of Bertie's lifestyle and Bertie disliked how horribly Wilhelm treated his mother Victoria Bertie's older sister. Wilhelm got all the bravado of being a British prince and showed nothing but contempt for British people. He also thought his uncle was supposed to walk a pace behind him because he was an Kaiser/King/Emperor and everyone was beneath him including Victoria.
@Summergirl. His force was hus wife. She was sister to the zarina in Russia and sister ti the King of Grece and the King of Denmark. She had the relation to Europe.
Not quite.... the MONEY POWERS run the world and set the agenda....certainly not the Royals, who are mere puppets.
@@williethomas5116 Sounds like Harry.
@@angelau1194 True but I think Harry blames the pomp and bravado for the death of his mother. I don't think he ever got the help he needed to really deal with her loss. It's one of those things about people not understanding mental health correctly and seeing it as a weakness.
Debaucherous? No such word. DEBAUCHED.
The story teller here is hysterical.
Edward 7 was kept down by his parents but when he became King he was a brilliant success. After years of Victorian morality stifling society the new Edwardian age was a brilliant success. One of Britains most beloved and triumphant monarchies.
He had many mistress's but he shares that honour with the majority of Britsh Monarchs. It is the rare exceptions who were wver faithful. Nonetheless, very few monarchs have been so admired or loved as Edward and the naming of the age after him helps prove his ultimate success.
What are his successes? Legacy is all about achievements, service and statesmanship not womanising!!!
@@user-qe1sx8et3b ??? Uncertain of your statement .. appears rather moralistic?
In the first place, Edward is responsible for the modern British monarchy. He was able to keep the crown in favour with both sides of Parliament and his personal charm was much admired universally, indeed he is accredited with keeping Europe away from War.
His family relationship towards his son George is one of the kindest ever recorded and George himself regarded his father as a friend or brother in intimate closeness...thus Edward was a main architect to his sons reign.
In the second place we can see how Edward held the common touch and was even when he was crown prince insisted upon showing himself up close and to his people.
His smoking, jovial and kindly nature, his sense of humour and open character meant that at the start of the reign, many feared he would be a disaster but he won his critics over and his age is a tribute to him personally, especially coming from his monolithic Mother's reign. Literally The Victorian era followed at once by the Edwardian speaks volumes as to his truly great reign.
You suggest his womanising was a bad thing but in the world of monarchy it often is a desirable thing because kindness can result, good humour and a gentle understanding as it did with both Charles 2 and Edward 7, both of whom were popular and well loved.
So greater than your notion of statemanship is the ability to show friendly approachable character and in this Edward excelled.
He wasn't kept down by his parents - they tried to mould him into the best educated and most knowledgeable Prince of Wales ever but while intelligent, he didn't have the same capacity for voracious learning like his elder sister, the educational regime they designed for him was too much and badly affected him.
@@zzzbbbooo Generally Historians agree that he was not valued by his parents. His mother distrusted him and later blamed him for causing the death of Albert. Unlike his parents, he realised the monarchy needed a common touch and often tried to break the restrictive expectations of his Parents. He was never allowed to shine and his parents restrictions on his freedom undoubtedly caused him pain.....so I am sorry but yes he was kept down by his parents and many regarded his succession as a cause of alarm. His flourishing as Monarch thus would amaze many.
@@raymondmartin318 Moralistic? You should say A-moral which many of you seem to celebrate. Many sorrows come from this terrible lifestyle for the participants and for society itself!
Strange fact from this period. Syphilis was rife and one of the effects of this was that you couldn't straighten your little finger. The upper class were well known for having affairs so to prove you didn't have Syphilis the secret signal of drinking tea with your " pinky " straight developed. This is how the middle class started doing it, not knowing the reason why, by aping the upper class
Interesting - thanks
Not accurate at all. Tenosynovitis is a possible side-effect of untreated syphilis, but it is not that specific. Children born with congenital syphilis can have a very shortened and deformed little finer - the Du Bois sign - which cnnot be extended in an affected way as described.
A human king well loved in France .❤
He didn’t deserve to be blamed for his Fathers death. Your children are your children warts and all.
What a story. I LOVE these!
Again....that plot twist at the end....wow! Love it!!!!❤❤
Randy Andy, Dirty Bertie, a family tradition!
They are all shaggers. Back to the very beginning!😂
And Charles the tampon.
dont be silly. Viritually All Monarchs have been unfaithful husbands
What nonsense! Queen Alexandra sent for Alice Keppel when Edward was dying. If the rest of your history is as erroneous as this, won't bother to look again.
What a smashing chap ol Eddie the 7th was 😂
Alice Keppel was a great grandmother of Queen Camilla.
from one mistress to another. oy!
like Diana nad her mother I suppose@@florinelenaradamilea
This channel is so good, I subscribed to this channel.
I enjoyed this video until the very end when you mentioned Camilla. She was born Camilla Shand, not Parker Bowles, and it's a shame that everyone feels it appropriate to refer to her by the name of her first husband.
I'm sure that she must be very charming because she isn't, at all, striking. But, they both are adulterers.
That is a Big no no in God's book. I realize that we are all human... Yada yada yada ... But, Charles shouldn't be king as a part of that title is defender of the faith. He isn't faithful in anything except his baser habits.
He tells Christians to reframe from wishing others Merry Christmas to keep from offending "others", he always womanized with married women, even the wives of his friends, he cheated on his wife and those are all things that the defender of the faith shouldn't indulge in.
@@cwavt8849Of course, but the Anglican church was invented to let the king do whatever he wants.
As a Catholic it galls me that the English King holds on to the title: DEFENDER OF THE FAITH. Ah, well, if it makes him feel better, let him have it 😂😢😇
@@michaelburgess6556 Kind of like the Pope, it's now more of an honorarium 💔
@@dragonmartijn Actually, the movement to reform the Catholic Church of ad been around for awhile. And it Certainly needed reforming!
The lecherous king simply used that "reformation" as an excuse to kick out his dissenters within the church and replace them with yes-men.
The Reformed Church doesn't agree with divorce either
When all this crowd is resurrected, he'll be so happy and so will his former mistress, to find out that 100 plus yrs later, Mrs. Keppel great great granddaughter became Queen Consort to his great great grandson, Charles.
I thought Camila was Keppel's great granddaughter.?
If he would’ve spent half of the time that he spent with women on his work, he could’ve made the world a better place. Vicky should’ve been the heir.
nonsense. Victoria would not allow him to do more than a social role
Not sure you get the facts 100% correct...but I love the voice and the humor. Also, it seems that any discrepancies will be corrected by your astute views.😊
People who shoot ponies to make a point could never “be a cool guy”
We've all been there. I don't think it precludes him from being a cool guy.
It wasn't Edward who shot the ponies.
It was the women's husband that shot ponies not Edward
Poor innocent animals. Disgusting.
Indeed! Anybody who would do such a vile, callous abusive thing is a dirty rotter.
And Camilla has carried on the family tradition as did Charles
At least she got to be queen. Lol
Suc a shame fir William & Harry to watch the cheaters who put their mother in the situation hat killed her....to watch them be crowned most have been awful.
was the son of king ed 7 gay ?
the video spoke of Male prostitution.
was the whole diana camilla thing a cover up for something else or maybe in parallel with it.
I like how so many people talk about Charles straying with Camilla but they never say a bad word about Diana and the many many men she screwed around with.
After Edward VII died, his son George V took the throne. Probably seeing how much his mother suffered, he banished Alice Keppel from court, remained faithful and devoted to his wife Mary of Teck, who was initially engaged to his older brother.
At least he wasnt dull
No mention of the Entente Cordial and his part
Was Alice Keppel heartbroken at the news of Edward's demise? We don't know. If she was, her behaviour is understandable. She wasn't desperate to see Edward in order to take selfies that she would sell to Netflix. The narrator accepts Edward's refusal to control his behaviour (any evidence that he used birth control?) while expecting his mistresses to quietly accept their fates.
Did Alice Kepple conceive any children during her affair with King Edward while she was still legally married to her first husband? Perhaps, Camilla
is one of King Edward's descendants. Therefore, could Queen Camilla legally claim the Throne as the sole heir after King Charles' death?
If so, what a mess indeed! That might be why they are keeping it all secret about the Royal couple's alleged other son Simon Durante-Day outside of marriage. Eventually, there will be more information to come out.
...and now another Keppel mistress is sharing the throne
Charles married his mistress. Dumb that he is, he should have asked Camilla to wait for him when he had the opportunity. Had she known Charles loved her, she would have waited for him - communicate.
@@masada2828 My understanding is that Charles and Camilla did want to get married, but Charles was not allowed to do so by his parents, because Camilla had previously had another couple of boyfriends. Having been rejected, Camilla married Parker-Bowles in 1973, while Charles was on a long naval exercise, and soon afterwards had a son. They later had a daughter in 1978. Camilla and Charles resumed their relationship in the late 70s before Charles married Diana. It was not until after Diana's death that the Queen accepted the presence of Camilla. I think it is unreasonable to expect Camilla to have waited for 30 years on the off-chance that the Queen would come round to accepting her.
@@ritasouthernwood7351 what bullshit, they've been married for years and she is now Queen.
Very interesting, thank you.
King Charles, when he was Prince of Wales for decades, used his time to create important charitable initiatives and completely changed the role of Prince of Wales from what it had been in the past.
Please he is a puppet of the WEF and the criminal corporate Zionist minority!!!!
4.08 - The walk in the pouring rain occurred in Cambridge whilst the PoW was at University there.
😃Greetings from Oregon State! I appreciate this body of work you all are creating. There is always a surprising nugget of info I hadn’t come across yet! Thank you! 😊
what rubbish Alice was invited by alexander to see Edward before he died get your facts right
Nicely done 😊
It's almost as if NOT repressing his very human desires helped lead to Edward being a happy, content, capable and well-liked man.
Weird takeaway obese with emphesema and congestive heart failure. If he was content why was he so compulsive? This is like a child in a sweet shop ideal level of emotional maturity.
I'm happy for him, that at least towards the end of his life he was able to be happy and was loved by the people.
That's not what the addiction model says but...
Very human desires? I dont think every guy wants 55 mistresses and who knows how many unnamed f*@ks in his life...?
That's a very generous wife.
I did not realize there was a lineal connection between Alice Keppel and Queen Camilla! How the wheels of history turn! AND how history repeats itself from generation unto generation! As for the description of Edward #7 as the"most debaucherous King", I can hear Henry #8 yelling , "Off with his Head!" because surely he holds that title!
there is no such word.
How dare a Scotsman say that Queen Victoria’s son became the king of England!!
@michaelrogers2080 They must be pretty ancient by now!
"Debaucherous"? Dear lord, I think you mean debauched.
Edward 7th most debaucherous King? You HAVE heard of Henry 8th, haven't you!
And Charles II and George IV, to name but two others.
Henry Had very few known mistresses, Charles II and Edward both had many
Too bad Victoria couldn’t have been heir to the throne.
King Edward VII was a real swinger in his day LOL👍
Queen Elizabeth is the shining example of how a Real Monarch should behave. No scandals or problems with her personal behavior and reign. She was a shining example of a Real Christian. She feared God which is the beginning of wisdom. She was admired by many world leaders because they watched her behavior and grace throughout her time on the throne. She will be missed !
What you say is true. Even as a Yank I had enough sense to admire her. That said I always felt sort of bad for her because as.practical matter, she had very little free choice about what she was going to DO in her life.
This is an example of a monarch. They have that right to become an example of a faithful and loyal servant to their country. To be the best servant a country is capable of producing as a citizen. Their standards are expected to be very high.
At any time a monarch can abdicate if they so choose. We actually as civilians should do the same thing when we work as servants in our workplace. Thank You Elizabeth for your comment.@@elizabethsohler6516
you shouldn't fear god, you should respect him but not fear him
@@user-sv7fd6es6s Do you read the word of God? It says the beginning of wisdom is to fear God. Would you jump out of an aircraft without a parachute? Of course not. It is because you fear the consequences of what would happen. It is there to protect you. So you need that fear to be protected. Jesus spoke on hell as well as he spoke about heaven. He appeared in my home in the spring of 2021. So he really exists. It is why I spend my time warning people. Just like I would warn someone about skating on a thin pond.
The bible warns us that when we stand before him in the end. We will have no excuse. Just like your car is the evidence of someone creating a car. The world, animals, the earth and universe is the evidence of another creator. All of this did not just puff into existence. Scripture reminds us that it is appointed unto man once to die then the judgements. God provided a manual (bible) and a Pastor to help you understand he exists.
@@user-sv7fd6es6s "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." It is biblical. Fear in the sense of reverence, hating evil as He does, including sexual sins which is to protect us from the ultimate consequences.
I simply love the narration. 👍
Narrator's name, please?
Sounds like David Tennant.
such a funny society having a such a funny King
They named a cheap cigar after him
In Canada quite a number of pubs are named after him as well.
Very interesting video and very informative!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
Well Keppel was much prettier than Camilla..
Honey, anyone is prettier than Camilla😊
Cut her hair and put on a pair of pants and she looks like an old, weathered sailor.
and yet, she's queen/@@sarahalbers5555
Why do history narrators always say 'Heir to the throne of England?
Its been the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain since the act of union in 1707
Just because Camilla's ancestral great-grandmother had an intimate relationship with King Edward, it did not give her a right to where she is today. The late Queen and her mother had right to keep her far away from the Royal Family at all costs years ago. Per my understanding, the late
Queen Mother - King Charles' grandmother, was responsible for finding places (castles) for the pair to carry out their rendezvous while both were married. She was not the nice, sweet little old granny that we were led to believe. Read Lady Collin Campbell's book
about the late Queen Mother
for more information.
Also it was historical evidence that Camilla is gr.grate anty for Charles because Alice Keppel had a child with King after all.That why Charles could nor merry Camilla at first place but she also was not a virgin !
Oh I can imagine! The whole Royal Fam is covered in secrets (or Lizard skin??)😂😂)some of them come out ( like visits to Epstein 🤔🧐🤨🤨)
If that is so, that was the only decent thing she (Charles III's grandmother) ever did. You are far too sanctimonious about Charles and Camilla. They wanted to marry years ago, but Charles' parents would not permit it for some reason. I can't understand why so many people on here are demonising Camilla.
Camilla did not wnat to marry Charles, she was in love iwth Andrew. But the queen would probalby not have OK'ed a marriage because Cam had a sexual past@@mfjdv2020
His mother was acrazy mean woman. But you really cant blame her she was raised by a crazy mean woman. Its a sad cycle.
Good Queen Vee wasn't crazy.
George IV could get Edward a run for the money as far as debauchery goes.
Thank God they keep it in the family 😂
Very interesting.. thanks. ❤😊
Bertie was one of the most beloved and popular monarchs Britain has ever known. He was a kind, gentle, warm-hearted human being, the complete opposite to his parents in every way. He was also a hugely successful diplomat. The people called him 'Good old Teddy' and 'the Peacemaker'. So bloody what if he had lots of mistresses? I don't blame him in the least, after the way those disgusting parents of his treated him. If you disagree, just imagine how it must have been for him growing up with those two cruel, stern icebergs who never showed him any love or encouragement, plus a horrible elder sister and even more horrible tutors. The only tutor who was kind to him, was sent away by his father. I'm very happy for him that he was finally able to live a little after that unspeakable Victoria kicked the bucket at long last.
You know so much 🤣
Thought Prince Albert died of typhoid and as a Scot you should know better than to refer to Edward as the King of England.
well said Barbara!
What's decent about not recognizing a child he had??
Kings didn't usually acknowledge illegitimate children in Edwards day.
Thank you for sharing.
I’ve read some comments in which some were outraged about “King of England,” then say he was “King of the United Kingdom.” That is somewhat incorrect.
In 1801, England became United Kingdom of Great Britain. Which United Kingdom of Great Britain became United Kingdom in 1922, or 1927.
Thanks, I did not know that.
What did you say his name was? Edward Kennedy?
Chuck Windsor met Camilla at a Polo match in 1970. She said to him my Great Grandmother and your Great Grandfather had an affair, how about it? The awakard Gordosn Schoolboy was never the same after the experienced woman showed him hows its done.
Chuck wanted to marry her but Papa & Mama said no dice! They wanted him to marry a beautiful girl from an aristocratic family. Chuck was sent away in the military and Camilla married but after her children were born, thry picked up where they left off in secret.
Chuck bought Highgrove because it was down the street from his mistress. Chuck married the beautiful Lady Diana Spencer. He did the deed so they could have an heir and a spare and continued to get action from his older more experienced woman. He left Diana, Princess of Wales at Kensington Palace. He told her he wasn't going to be the only Prince of Wales to not have a mistress.
they are a defective lot for sure
Even the queen had the lesson forced down her throat, you cannot make your son do what he really don't want to do.
Thank you ceil, a well written synopsis full of good information, much of which I didn't know. 👍👍👍
20:28 What a fantasy! Dream on stupid...
@@smorgasbroad113220:28 20:28 Because it's made up! A quote from this, that & the other women's magazines - are all you people mentally challenged?!
I don’t believe this, everything I read, the Queen sent for Alice Kemple a few days before he died.
She did. Queen Alexandra and Mrs. Kepple were actually very friendly - as was Queen Alexandra with Lily Langtree, another of Edward's many lady friends. Difficult to accept at first, Alexandra came to accept Edward's affairs - especially when the ladies in question respected the social conventions and norms and maintained the facade required. Alexandra even went out of her way to receive both of them socially, and supported Langtree's career when she was first making her way as an actress. Say what you like about "Edward the Caresser", but Queen Alexandra was a classy lady.
They were not all that friendly. ALix liked Lily Langtry but she did not like Alice Keppel much@@jhb1493
So that’s it then “she made such a scene”. Could’ve got the message here in two minutes.
This is definitely Prince Albert in a can, eh?
First howler is in the title, should read United Kingdom.
what s the difference betwen the 2
The United Kingdom is made up of four countries of which England is only one. Where you see this written instantly tells you the writer has a poor grasp of the subject at hand unless it is referring to events before the Union of the Crowns.
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@@bahr-pq4uo 'England' is not a sovereign country and has not been since 1707. England is merely one of the home nations within the United Kingdom. In fact, officially England is not even a country, as it has no parliament or first minister of its own (unlike Scotland and Wales).
I always wonder how different things would have been if Victoria married a different man (and had her obsession been a bit less) or if Albert had lived.
She might have married her cousin George, who was born and educated in the UK. That would probably have been a lot better for all concerned. But for some reason she preferred Albert. Or maybe _dearest_ Uncle Leopold gently pushed her in Albert's direction. Albert was his nephew after all.
It's all pretty tragic really. Albert's mother (to whom he was devoted) was banished from their home after his dad found out she had a lover. Albert and his brother never even had the chance to say goodbye to her. And Victoria as a young girl was full of fun, loved dancing and laughing. But dearest Albert soon changed all that 'frivolity' and turned her into as cold a prude as he was himself.
So Camila's great grand mum was also a mistress.
Like Diana's mum.
Some things never change .
It's particularly annoying that a SCOTTISH commentator on this video repeatedly refers to ENGLAND, ENGLISH society, the ENGLISH government and, in particular, incorrectly describes Edward as heir to the throne of ENGLAND (no such title since 1707!).
England is NOT the same thing as the United Kingdom, of which Victoria and Edward WERE monarchs, the correct adjective to describe the people and government of the UK is BRITISH (a term not used once here). What's more Edward spent most of his life as Prince of WALES and is often seen in the photos used wearing a traditional SCOTTISH outfit - kilt, sporran etc.
@michaelrogers2080 They must be getting on a bit by now!
Great comment, thanks. 'England' is only one part of the United Kingdom, but you wouldn't think so reading a lot of the comments on here!
Charles Moran wasn't just shooting ponies and making his wife Harriet watch. They were Harriet's beloved, special ponies. He made her watch him shoot them in his anger abt her unfaithfulness. It was emotional abuse/ possibly a thinly veiled threat of what he could do to a being if he chose. Even though there was legal precedent to his case of obtaining q divorce for reasons of insanity, that argument only worked for the wife's 'insanity'. Spouses of cheating men just had to suck it up. He was able to ensure his wife lived the rrst of her life in a mental asylum with this legal argument. He just had to destroy her ponies in her sight on top of it. Obs what she did wasn't right. What he did in response wasn't rigth either. He just lived in a patriarchal and inhumne society that allowed that kind of behavior towards one's wife and destruction of her ponies
What exactly is "debaucherous"? Do you mean debauched?
Isn't Keppel related to Camila? Let's say no more.
I knew a man like Edward VII, charming, full of fun, divinely sexy, passionate but kind. He just loved women, including his own wife deeply. I think like Alexandra, some wives are rare enough to understand that stifling his passions would be worse for their love. She was very smart in this way.
Luckily Edward didn't bring home any std's considering all the women he bedded.
I never knew about Edward & Alexandra thanks for this, it did fascinate me. Subscribed.👍
I haven’t read a ton of material on the subject but what I’ve read indicates that for most aristocratic women (eligible to marry a king or prince) it was common to be raised to expect him to have affairs. The training for the girls would be how to “manage” the lovers so as to avoid scandal/embarrassment.
@@wleighkst1671I would say you're correct historically, but still in the modern times-either from generational wisdom or innate practical common sense, there are women today who tolerate/practice this "royal" acceptance in their marriage.
@@smorgasbroad1132 agreed but from what I garnered it was almost part of a young aristocratic woman’s lessons from her mother/governess. Perhaps it is still and I am simply unaware but I don’t believe it is. I think each woman chose how they dealt/deal with it today even. Maybe “a more formal acceptance” then compared to now. (Or I’m just not aristocratic enough to know) 😉😁❤️
@@wleighkst1671 I've considered in these situations maybe the wife only wants to do it 2 X',s a month and she's happy and knows if he doesn't do it more often he's not going to be happy. With affairs scandals are avoided. Yoko Ono hooked John Lennon up with May Ping for a while.
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So Camilla was trained in School serving a gentleman - aristocratic, that why she was moving around upper class partying closer to RF activities. In her family Alis Keppel was direction in their life also Camilla inherited from AK money. It was pure Camilla's acting to get Charles, she been asking some ,,friends,, how to get access to him..rest she just sad about gr.gr.parents lovers and added - HOW about us?
I think you are being generous to say that Dirty Bertie was a decent guy. But in his defense, he probably was a lot better than his descendant, KC3.
how exactly? Since Charles has spent most of his working life trying to create jobs and help others
Such a factoid! Thanks for saving it to the end. Not a Brit but cannot admire the "punchline."
the good ole days when a royal had real privileges and perks
Even more if they did not sign it away in the Magna Carta. In that era, Genghis Khan and Chinese emperor ruled 1/4 of the world and you cannot even look at them without permission.
So Prince Albert Victor was the progenitor of the Forever 27 Club.
Very interesting. However, found the final comment tacky and unnecessary.
Keppelgate, hehe.
Great grandmother of kamilla 😅
Love the ending…