More accurately France WAS participating, but dropped out because costs were jumping too high. They then went with the Rafale, which is arguably at least as good and maybe superior to the Eurofighter, at least in some aspects.
The french participated and true costs were far too high for them and they wanted lead on the design as well as a more specialized aircraft for their specific needs and felt without them innlead their contributions would be directed at resources not needed.
@@manumanu-li3fethe capabilities of the EF are different to them of the Rafale, the concept of the EF was a AA-fighter and was later convertet to a multirole-fighter and the concept of the Rafale was always a multirole-fighter, for this reason the Rafale has better AG capabilities (e.g. higher payload), but in AA the EF has advantages especially in high altitudes and high speed combat (e.g. better thrust to weight ratio). In my opinion this are both very capable fighter. And the F35 isn't a replacement of the EF it's rather for replacement of the Tornado and the Harrier.
So, the thing to remember about the French is their national security strategy. It's a top priority for them to maintain independent capability. That includes development, construction and sustainment. So they will cooperate with other nations, joint development and such, but they keep full copies of the blueprints, as it were. They develop their own aircraft, ships, vehicles and equipment across almost all types. They have an independent nuclear capability. They also maintain the capacity to achieve independent expeditionary operations. Pretty much unique capabilities in NATO aside from the US. It was really valuable from an American perspective during the WOT. One of the regions we were concerned with was terrorism in the Sahel region- an area of interest to the French. They also had the diplomatic network with local governments there so they had it handled with their regional allies with little direct assistance from the US. Meaning no disrespect to our other allies in NATO, because we all have our parts to play, but having an ally like that is great. It can also be a pain in the ass because if the the rest of NATO disagrees with the US, they're the first to tell us to, uhh, jog on (is that what you'd say in the UK? Bugger off, maybe?). But, you know, sometimes we may need to hear that.
Poland is a sneaky good military. I would say they are a top 4 nato military. And getting stronger. They are ordering a shit ton of all the top systems in the world
@@codymiller9086 no I’m American. It’s a fact that they have modern equipment. And Eastern European men make excellent soldiers. They’ve had a good military for a long time. Now they’ve just modernized everything. New tanks and self propelled artillery from South Korea and the US They’re ordering hundreds of himars. New apaches, f35s.
Turkiye has lots of stuff, specially from other NATO nations. But they don't know how to use it. Parking tanks on top of hill and complaining that these tanks then get wrecked...
@@rabidDAWGfan82 Absolutely, we try to produce equipments by our own to preserve our sovereignty and autonomy from other major powers but also to export our equipments (Rafale). We diverged from the Eurofighter program to build an aircraft suited to our needs. Our goal was to create a versatile multirole aircraft capable of deploying a french nuclear weapons systems (ASMPA) and executing carrier-based landings. In the other hand other european countries wanted a superiority and interception role fighter. An now they need to buy F-35s to use nuclear weapons and seek the U.S. approval to use these bombs. An other example, is that, the Rafale while in the initial years of service included certain technological components were American, this is no longer the case today. As a result, we have the flexibility to export it to nations where geopolitical interests may not align with American preferences (India).
France didn't surrender in WW1 were you engaged only in 1917. France fought alongside america to bring them independance (ok more to trigger england than love for you). Love how France surrended in 1940 after a strong fight and americans only remember this haha
yes and the Americans took 5 years to come....they let the Russians destroy Nazism, they just came to prevent Russia from taking all of Europe at the end when war was already won.
yes you are right my friend, the French were incredible, they fought with ferocity, let's not forget that the Germans trampled on the laws of war by bypassing the French army through Belgium by trampling on the neutrality of a country! The French had to urgently reorganize, which they did brilliantly despite all the difficulty. let's not forget that they faced a German army in top shape, fanaticized, and doped with Pervertine, an army which will be defeated but at the cost of 5 years of war and with the two biggest powers in the world of the time involved and 21 million deaths for Russia only! what should we hope for? that France resists an army made for conquest and war against an army made for peace? the French population at the time was 47 million people, Germany almost 70 million having, moreover, a fierce desire for revenge from WW1. Don't forget that the French saved the British army from disaster and through their sacrifice allowed it to escape from Dunkirk and return to England. Despite this, France held up very well, all you have to do is listen to the speeches of very famous German generals such as: - General Erwin Rommel who described the fighting with the French army as "extremely tough" and recognized the ability of French troops to organize effective occasional resistance, despite unfavorable circumstances. - Général Heinz Guderian One of the main architects of the Blitzkrieg and commander of the German armored (Panzer) forces, Guderian also expressed his respect for the French army. In his memoirs, Erinnerungen eines Soldaten ("Memories of a Soldier"), he mentioned that French units fought with admirable courage, notably the armored divisions. - Felfmarchal Franz Halder, chief of Staff of the German Army during the French campaign, Halder noted in his diary the fierce resistance of French units - Feldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt who notably highlighted the difficulty of breaking through certain defensive lines - Général Hans von Kluge whop did not understand how these French people could resist with so much courage and valor to protect at the cost of their lives the pocket of Dunkirk where the English were embarking in disaster towards England - Etc etc... no, the French were remarkable against a disproportionately superior army! To finish I will quot you the dramatic moment of this verbal confrontation under the bombs between the French (Abrial, Fagalde, Altmayer) and the future British Marshal Alexander who evacuated his troops and refused the fight while the French continued to resist : -Fagalde (french): So you admit that the French army alone is covering the embarkations of the British army, while the British army is not providing any assistance to the French army for its withdrawal? -Alexander (english): I am more than willing to cooperate with you, but I must inform you that my troops will begin withdrawing tonight at midnight, in accordance with the orders I have received from General Gort. -Altmayer (french): I believe I must insist on the concept of honor. We are fighting to save everything that can be saved, whether British or French, but we cannot leave our position without feeling that we have fulfilled our duty. That moment has not yet arrived. We can achieve more, provided the British are willing to assure us of their support. -Alexander (english): I have received orders to embark at midnight. -Altmayer (french): But, General, we have been given a mission by Admiral Abrial and General Fagalde, explicitly confirmed by General Gort. It is to defend the Dunkirk bridgehead with all available French forces and three British divisions. We must fulfill this mission. -Alexander(english): I have not received orders from General Gort. -Abrial (french): In sum, the letter that General Gort wrote to me, the only one I consider valid, contradicts the verbal orders he gave you, General. To ensure we act in full agreement, I propose that we go together to see General Gort. It is 4:30 PM, and he told me he would not embark until 7 PM. La Pérouse, please announce our visit to General Gort. -Alexander (english): There is no need to see General Gort; he left at 4 PM. -Abrial (french): Since we can no longer count on British cooperation, General, the mission assigned to me will be carried out by French troops alone. We French are bound by an imperative mission: to resist to the death to save as much personnel as possible from the Dunkirk bridgehead. As long as that goal is not achieved, we will stay in place. In reality, notes Dominique Lormier, who brought this dialogue to light, General Gort did not leave Dunkirk until 2 AM on the night of May 31 to June 1, 1940
Probably in the next 5 years, when the TFX fighter jets, I-class frigates, TF2000 destroyers and aircraft carriers developed by Turkey come into service, Turkey will be NATO's 2nd largest military power. It should not be forgotten that Turkey is currently Nato's 2nd largest army in terms of the power it gives to Nato.
Don't pay attention to what biased and jealous people say! Turkey is the 7th largest military power in the world after England, which is far behind Turkey in terms of conventional power. This actually makes Turkey the 2nd largest NATO power! Considering that Turkey has risen from 11th place to 8th place in just a few years and that the Turkish defense industry is developing very quickly, it would not be surprising for it to rise from 8th place to 5th place in a few years.
turkish fan boys always lives in the dream , very funny , look at who are the biggest arms sellers in the world and you will have an idea of who has the best weapons
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Turkiye needs to be updated seriously, they are number two, as they should be. they are number 8 in the world according to global fire power, but that only takes into account numbers which are only 50% of the deal, it doesn't take into account experience and capabilities etc. Turkiye has one of the best army's in the world.
@@dorukcider4117 même sans le nucléaire, la capacité de la France et de la Grande-Bretagne sont meilleures que celle de la Turquie ! vous confondez grande armée avec armée puissante ! La Turquie et une grande armée, mais pas plus puissante que la France ou la Grande-Bretagne !
@@ecruz99 la France à tellement plus d'expérience que la Turquie. Elle date de quand vos dernières guerres ???, car nous depuis 1958 on n'arrête pas ! tu veux la liste tien dans tes dents le néophytes! Crise de Bizerte, Première guerre civile tchadienne, Guerre du Sahara occidental, Deuxième guerre du Shaba, Conflit tchado-libyen, Guerre du Liban, Guerre du Golfe, Guerre civile djiboutienne, Guerre de Bosnie-Herzégovine, Guerre du Kosovo, Guerre d’Afghanistan, Crise politico-militaire en Côte d'Ivoire, Première guerre civile centrafricaine, Première guerre civile libyenne, Guerre du Mali, Troisième guerre civile centrafricaine, Guerre contre l'État islamique, guerre d'Ukraine non officieux ! ou vous êtes ou vous ? a oui, vous tuez des petits peuples opprimés dans votre zone frontalière.
Not Himmars only MLRS as it will be mix of HIMMARS, Chungwo from South Korea and Polish RW Langusta. Also Poland won't be able to buy extra 1000 MBT. Rather I. Total we will have as a nation around 1000 top MBT which you can buy now. Also our air defence will be the strongest in Europe after modernisation will end.
Turkiye has 700.000 military personnel, 2.000 tanks, 13.000 armored vehicles and over 200 fighter jets. Most of the tanks are m60 sabra(modernized version), leopard 1 and leopard 2. Fighter jets are f-16 fighting falcon and most are f-16 block 70(modernized version). How is it possible that Italy, France and the UK are in front of Turkey with only 200.000 military personnel, 200 tanks and 100 fighter jets? Same thing for Poland, they have more combat vehicles than the others even they are 9th. We all know Turkey is up to fight and always doing cross-border operations so they have proved itself. I think Turkey is more capable of a conventional war than the others, except the U.S.
I don't know why Italy is 4'th but UK and France both has Nukes, ICBM's, nuclear attack submarines and real aircraft carriers not LHD's pretending to be carriers.
@@engineeranonymous It makes sense. Nukes and ICBMs are game-changer weapons. However, Turkey is far stronger than the others in a conventional war in my opinion. I do not think that no one dares to use Nukes in a war so Turkey should be on the top after the U.S.
@@eamoshhh BS. France can manufacture most of its weapons. France doesn't rely on other countries to arm itself, whereas Turkey is buying most of its stuff abroad. In case of war, it is essential to produce your weapons yourself, not to mention no one in the western world would provide anything valuable to Turkey. You could only buy russian crap.
Dire que l'armée française se rend est totalement faux. Les anglais ont fuis à Dunkerque, protégé par l'armée française. Nous avons continuer à se battre en France pendant que les anglais étaient acclamé sur leur îles.
Not too sure about what's going on with France's conventional military but I do know it's all fun and games until the foreign legion is involved... those guys have nothing better to do and you might just make their day if you challenge them.😂
I completely understand you. They also keep telling us Italians that we changed sides when, in fact, all they would have to do is study and understand that in World War I it was a defensive alliance and therefore no pact was broken. And in World War II, a civil war broke out. Or when they say that we did nothing in World War II. But beyond the fact that these things are false (even if they were true, it's been 80 years, I would say things have changed), but I repeat that they are false.
Les turcs on battue les anglais et les français en même temp (bataille de dardanelles )1915-1916 Pourtant il y sont derrière la liste de l'otan. Si la France n'aurait pas eu le nucléaire il ne seront même pas dans le top 10. La france est une armée qui ne possède pas d'expérience sur le terrain , ils y aura beaucoup de perte militaires français si un jour une guerre éclate.
@@giovannimonfardino4075 Yep. I hate when people make fun of either France or Italy, it's always the people who wouldn't even dare to pick up a rifle that speak the most shit.
France makes there own fighters in house , if I remember Rafale didn’t want to get involved in the euro fighter ,only Germany , Italy , uk and Spain Edit : I meant dassult not rafale , got confused between the company and model
nope, this list was actualized, counting economic power and technology too, not only numbers like before! Italy has 1000 Leo1 tank, they get dismantled, Turkey still uses it, they cost a lot, but most are not even ready for combat!
@@Nuclear_Fallen_King1 turkey has not even 5 gen fighter, and they have no planes for the carrier!!! the fighter made only his first flight! Italy has 2 carrier and F35, + Typhoon, best ships and a much bigger economy! I was in the Turkish military, otherwise I had to pay a lot of money, most tanks are useless, bcz no money to maintain!
We do have reserve personnel in Poland. Every adult man (without serious health issues) aged between 18 and 63 years old are reservists. We also have Territorial Defence Force which is 40k+ people (light infantry). Also some paramilitary organisations but I don't know exact numbers. Regarding tanks: most of our T-74 and PT-91 tanks were send to Ukraine. We replaced them with Abrams tanks and K2 tanks from Korea (they will be modernized into K2PL). Some MIG fighters, and I heard that some SU, were also send to Ukraine. There are some korean made FA-50 (or FA-50PL) + we are waiting for our F-35. Regarding artillery we are using eg. AHS Krab, KMO Rak, SpGH Dana, K9 Thunder, WR-40 Langusta, HIMARS and korean made Chunmoo. We are trying to replace old post-soviet BMP-1 with our homemade IFV Borsuk but it is still in the process.
@@srebrnikjudasza In Poland those 32000 is counted as part of active personnel. Only ex Territorial Defence Forces personel is counted as reserve personel.
@@ThePsycho022 Even the F-16 will not be replaced! only the older ones. The US may have an estimated 3,750 aircraft, roughly 4,000, it's just a number.
@timosthomo566 You realize American pretty much fights with one arm behind their backs? America could level that whole country if they felt like it. Everything is a game of politics and saving face. Everyone would be pretty upset if American erased an entire country from the map.
you need to know that economy and manufacturing power should be included! Greece has so many tanks, most Leo1 can't even start the engine like Turkey, Italy has 1000Leo1 tanks, they will be dismantled. If you count manufacturing power most nation would end far behind
Turkey already has a very strong and experienced army. For 40 years we have been at war with the PKK. We entered Syria and Iraq and in the 70s we made Cyprus Turkish soil again. This country, which you do not take seriously, has its own advanced defense industry and technology companies, and we recently flew our 5th generation fighter jet. Yes, our economy is terrible, there are many political crises in the country. But the Turkish army is growing and developing independently. Don't be afraid, we need to eat 40 loaves of bread to become like the Ottomans. And we have no eyes on your lands. As long as you don't try to establish a state etc. on our borders that acts against us.
@@mustafasavuljust 1 bread and 1 fromage to become like napoleon army here (🇨🇵) lol. Im glad we have turkey & poland. Currently, in the top 5. My country out of 10 without the nuclear submarines.
@@ΠαζαρακιαΣιτιIf you come to the northern regions, I can offer you the baklava and other original Anatolian dishes you stole from us, the best neighbor in the region.
Türkiye is the country with the most attack UAVs in the world after the USA and China. Türkiye changed the course of the war in Armenia, Syria, Libya and Ukraine with its UAVs such as TB2, Akıncı and Anka. Türkiye has more than 300 active UAVs. This alone is enough to be in the top 3.
The script read by that AI voice neglected bombers in air force strengths, and idiotically described the A-10 Thunderbolt II (the Warthog) as a fighter, when it is an attack aircraft that carries a couple of self-defense IR-guided missiles. It did not distinguish between branches of military service, apparently lumping all active-duty personnel into the 'army'. The mispronunciations were consistent and blatant. It also neglected long-range missile capability. It's a collection of the sloppiest sort of generalizations.
In a conventional warfare Turkey is definetely stronger than France and Italy and likely stronger than UK, thats exactly why Greece has 12 submarines, also in these comparison lists i never seen active personnel numbers of turkish gendarmerie, they are literally same with the land forces, in a war time they will be also deployed and they have around 200k personnel
Bro this video is so old. You should take this video again because turkey has reached the 3th on nato in 2024 we has got 5th gen fighter and we have a huge uav army.
@@spoonm1237 nah he is wrong. Im turkish as well. Rn we have 4.5 gen which is a prototype for 5th gen in development that will happen in approximate 10 years. Ppl call it 4.5 gen due to its engine and some other compartments. You can check TF-X program.
Seriously what is with the 🐂 💩 comments. I only mentioned why they have submarines, ain't it obvious. Problem with the world today is everyone is opinionated about nothing, just absolutely bollocks. Who really gives a shit what you think.
The Eurofighter Typhoon was a project between Germany, England, Spain and Italy. That's why these countries have the Eurofighters. But the Mirage is very similar to the Eurofighter.
funny to hear a brit saying that France is always surrendering... pretty much the only war France completely lost was WW2 and french soldiers sacrifice themself to let english soldiers leave at Dunkerque... so you probably need a history lesson about france military and specifically the history with England. We've been best enemies since 1500 years mate.
The topic of submarines in Spain is an endless discussion between the needs of the Armada, the money, the geostrategic position and the internal politics of the country, Spain has about 7900 Km of coastline, at least we need between 6 and 8 subarines, however, we are building the new series and there are only four😮💨, greetings and amazing video✌
It's correct that France doesn't operate Eurofighters, they have their domestic made Rafale instead. Also we germans ordered the F-35 as well and still operate the Tornado because Eurofighters can´t carry the B-61 tactical nuclear bomb
The French do not have any Typhoons. They preferred the Dassault Mirrage and Raffaele aircraft. The Raffaele is just as good as Typhoon and why buy the Eurofighter when your home grown aircraft is as good or better. France actually pulled out of the development of Typhoon when they realized that the Raffaele was just as capable and cost 22% less per aircraft.
If you divide the number of American military aircraft by service the United States has 3 of the 5 largest air forces in the World. The United States Air Force is #1, the United States Navy is #2 and the United States Marine Corp is #5 based on total number of aircraft.
But Polish ordered south Corean fighters f35 from the usa and more than 1000 k2 balck pabther tanks.... more then 600 rocket launchers and more than 700 Self probeld guns... the contracts a save and bayed the polish forec ways for the delivery... the numbers is hoples old and he make a contract for more than 200 m1 tanks..
Keep in mind the top three countries in the list are the only ones that have nuclear subs in their navies and all three are nuclear weapon armed for MAD deterrence.
@@hyrikul602Yes, but policy is not capability. You don't get a higher spot on the list just because your doctrine is more lenient with the use of Nuclear Weapons
@@Jugement je ne suis pas sur que la politique francaise soit plus indulgente vis a vis de l'arme nucleaire, Against a larger enemy, France will not hesitate.
@@germainmozet-z3n That's not what I said, I do in fact agree with that. What I meant is that the Nuclear policy of France being more assertive doesn't mean it should get bonus points when discussing capabilities
@@Jugement I agree, but we all know the capacity of each person. If France were experiencing the same war as Ukraine today, the nuclear bomb would have already been sent.
Turkisch drones won 3 wars with ease and is ranked 4. These statistics are anceint. Everybody knows after the US, Turkiye is by far the most powerfull one. Theyve became a regional power, not only by drones. Do some research. Americans know this quite well.
Turkiye smashed Armenia backed by Russia and France, smashed Syria backed by Russia. Smashed Hafter in Libya, backed by France and Italy. They are winning every war and proxy war. You keep thinking that wars are won by youtube lists 😄
PS; Wrt the UK and French navies, I also note multiple discrepancies. Eg, that though France's 3 x Mistral Class LPHs are listed, the UK's 2 x Albion Class LPDs are somehow omitted completely.
The video contains incorrect data about Poland. Poland has reserve troops, plus the data does not match, but it's a video from 2023, it's not surprising, Poland is now in 6th place in the NATO ranking
Spain currently have 2 submarines, 1 old S-70 Galerna class and 1 brand new S-80 + Isaac Peral class (considered the best non-nuclear submarine), but the S-80 + program includes 3 other submarines that will enter in service in the next years (4 in total), with the possibility of increasing to 6 units in total.
Turkey should be higher than Italy right? Numbers just seem crazy difference, and I feel like Turkey would actually have better trained and experienced military since they are located in a dangerous region, especially compared to Italy no?
@@emiryalcn8922italy got a way better navy force than turkey: It currently has 10 Fremm frigates (which will become 18), ships that the USA also is buying, the Horizon class destroyers, and 3 aircraft carriers carrying F-35s. not to mention that by 2035 it will have the sixth generation Tempest fighter available.
it's funny to read/watch these list, due to quite often they aren't accurate (for it's time). For example Poland have an reserve force, but they are not writing it up on the list, the same way other countries does. Norway is also a good example (my country), people call Norway's military small and that is the trick! (I would say that of course) the active force is the active force, but it's when you start to look at reserve numbers things starting to get weird! Norway's Home Guard is listed as the reserve force, when it is actually something between active and reserve force, they are almost similar as a normal active infantry force. What is not listed, is the 170000 reserve force, where 40000 of them are doing Home Guard duty
In 2030, Turkey will have 18 submarines, 24 frigates, 1 destroyer, 1 aircraft carrier (sea tests begin) and 1 helicopter carrier. It is clear that it will be NATO's largest navy after the USA. It is also currently included in the 17th Frigate inventory. 13. It is about to enter the submarine inventory. He has a helicopter carrier in inventory. Turkey is at a very good level in terms of unmanned marine vehicles. The only marine vehicle that successfully completed the NATO exercise was Turkey's unmanned marine vehicle. In the asymmetric war, we saw in the Ukraine-Russia war that these weapons are very dangerous for warships.
@@alensmiljanic3844 It is nuclear deterrence. It is not possible to use it operationally. Because there is no winner in such a war. Additionally, Türkiye is working on Nuclear submarines. Türkiye has ballistic missiles, it is very possible to reach the intercontinental level. There is defense cooperation with nuclear power Pakistan. Türkiye may also take steps towards the nuclear in issue towards the 2030s.
For the US Navy the 11 aircraft carriers are just the nuclear aircraft carriers if I'm not wrong we still have nine regular aircraft and I didn't see any mention of amphibious landing craft at all like the Marines use
Summary The video discusses the top 10 most powerful militaries within NATO, with predictions provided by the speaker who has a military background. The speaker talks about the military strengths of countries such as Greece, Poland, Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, Turkey, the UK, France, and the United States. The video details the military capabilities of each country, including the number of personnel, equipment, aircraft, tanks, submarines, and naval vessels. The speaker also mentions upcoming videos on military jets and discusses the potential implications of these military strengths in the event of a large-scale war. The video concludes by stating the speaker's opinion on the top three countries with the strongest militaries as the UK, France, and America, with Italy at number four. Additionally, the video encourages viewers to like, comment, and subscribe to the channel for more military content.
Dude, the french have never wanted to design something in cooperation with anyone. At the very least they back down near the end and then take all the design choices they like and then design their own - be they tanks or aircraft. That said, it also means they have a strong domestic industry and that's a thing to be respected.
Greece and Turkey are not on the most friendly terms. Greece's military is mostly to offset Turkey. France does what they want and refuse to use other countries equipment if they don't have to. So they make most of their own stuff, and I am pretty sure are the #3 arms dealing nation in the world after the US and Russia. Though after Russia's debacle in Ukraine, France may be #2 now.
The information used in the film about POLAND is not current and not true: 134.5 k professional soldiers, 34.3 k soldiers of the Territorial Defense Forces, 14.5 k soldiers of voluntary compulsory military service. Data for 2023: a total of 191.5 thousand soldiers.
TECHNICALLY every male between the age of 18 to 50/60(not sure), without something prohibiting him from joining an army is considered a reserve personnel in Poland and are called "passive reserve".
For the USA they didn't give the number of aircraft for the Navy (over 4,000 aircraft) and US Marines (1,200 aircraft). The US Navy fighter force is better than other countries entire air force. Also the 9 "helo" carriers are going to be F35 capable as well.
You realy think italy ore franse can beat Türkiye don't be a fool when its ware against Türkiye believe evry Türk will be a soldier. In NATO Türkiye is second strongest army afther usa.
Whats its role ? What france army do? Threating poor african dynasties? Do they even fight ? Do we hear french army of troops any place or conflict around the world ? You guys do good luxury bags and perfumes please keep it up
As an American who always gets giddy seeing the US on any of these lists, it’s cool to see that other countries are hyped to see themselves on these lists too. Btw, always love the UK as our closest allies, ride or die bulldogs. Been subscribed for years now keep up the good fun
Afaik, we have 137 Eurofighters and now, 31 of the 32 F35-Bs as yet delivered. One F35 having taken a nosedive over Hms Queen Elizabeth's ski-jump into the Med. We also do still have over 300 x C2 MBTs though only the c210 cited are still operational and with the C3 life extension UK tank nos will reduce yet further to just under 150. Meanwhile, the French in fact have even fewer operational MBTs than we have and though lighter French AFVs outnumber UK ones by approaching c6,600 compared to just over c5,000 French AFVs are all wheeled, not tracked and less capable than the big % of UK tracked equivalents.
What about experience? How capable these armies to effectively use what they have in their inventory? What are their levels of readiness? What is the ratio of operational equipment?
The experience ispretty much converging at the same level due nato conjoint training. The LAND higher level of readines, if we talk about nato readiness troops Corps, the best are the Italians of the Folgore Brigade Paratroopers, capable to deploy mortars and their foot on the ground on land, with a launch, in 80 minutes (nato numbers). If we talking about in combact readiness status of weapons, USA above all and then France. Italy and UK in this period have some issue with their land forces (they are rethinking their recruitment system due what's happening in Ukraine). AIRFORCES AND NAVIES: USA above all, then Italy and UK are very strong with their navy and af, expecially in multifomain and electronic warfare. France have a slightly better navy than UK and Italy due their blue wather capabilities. The ratio of operational equipment of USA is massive, the European one actually can sustain a medium term war, not a long one. But the whole Europe is working to activating their silent war industry, due Ukraine facts.
Hey just thought I should point it out the thumbnail of your video is incorrect! Those are ZTZ99 Tanks which belong to China and are NOT operated by NATO countries.
Poland is going to be the main country to challenge Russia after America has walked away. They know that and that is why the are investing heavily, urgently, to get up to speed. They have tried hard to support Ukraine, and done a good job of it. It will play to their advantage as Russia has worn its stocks down over the last two years. Poland with a modernized military will be in a far better position as a result to challenge Russia. This could have all been over if it wasn't for American domestic politics. That was always going to be the deciding factor in the Russian Ukrainian war, and it has proven to be right. Whilst it should not be down to America, alone, to save the Ukrainians, it is America that has fucked it all up.
In France we have our own fighters since decades. It was AlphaJet for training, Mirage 2000 for active missions, and since 2000, one of the best multirole fighter in the world, the Rafale. And our Aircraft Carrier is a nuclear propulsed Aircraft Carrier and the only one compatible with US Marine aircrafts. So our Rafale can land and take off from US aircraft carriers as US aircrafts can land and take aff on our french Aircraft Carrier.
bro Greeks and Turks alone are 23 submarines, more than 4K tanks, 400 fighter jets, over 1 million soldiers, and thousands of armored vehicles… beautifull 😳
I'm pretty sure that his numbers for the US aircraft are wrong. I think that the us has the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd largest air forces in the world, that may be why he didn't list all the different types of airplanes they use as some of them technically fall under the navy or the army.
I think militaries all over the world are moving from barreled arty pieces to rocket/missile based arty pieces. They are more efficient at targeting, have a much longer range and can redeployed faster.
there is some value in blind munitions. a shell once it's fired is very hard to intercept and can't be subject to EW to mess up it's targetting. i heared that the US navy is giving a second though to battleships over carriers recently for such reasons. a shell is completly passive and once it's shot either you evade it or you get pummeled.
@Netscape-kd6mg Maybe, but for example the 127 Oto Melara with Vulcan guided ammunition reaches 120 km, with an accuracy of 2 metres. You can also use conventional shots, but the guided ones activate the GPS, or IR, or Laser when the bullet is almost on the vertical of the target. The 76 in Strales version guides a projectile with a radar beam towards the target. Good for drones and subsonic anti-ship missiles.
@@askallois laser and IR can be countered and GPS scrambled so even if tehy start dummy, in a situation where their active targetting is countered because the enbemy simply just counters blindly because tehy know you have that then all your gazdgety bling is just ewaste that drives up the cost. in the end it's cheaper to sedn 30k dumb rockets to carpet the area over on gided missile that's a one shot kill given a conflict prolongs long enought. All mlilitary experts are in agreement that our hightech gadgets is usefull in war only because we don't have real battlefieldzs nowadays. the ukrainien war was teh first real prolonged conflicts we've had in decades and they see that supplying any real amount of smart munitions in numbers enough to matter just costs way too much over long periods of time
15:44 The Eurofighter programme is between Spain, the UK, Italy and Germany, France didn't participate in it because they were developing the Rafale.
More accurately France WAS participating, but dropped out because costs were jumping too high. They then went with the Rafale, which is arguably at least as good and maybe superior to the Eurofighter, at least in some aspects.
The Rafale is the french Version of the Eurofighter so to speak
The french participated and true costs were far too high for them and they wanted lead on the design as well as a more specialized aircraft for their specific needs and felt without them innlead their contributions would be directed at resources not needed.
@@manumanu-li3fethe capabilities of the EF are different to them of the Rafale, the concept of the EF was a AA-fighter and was later convertet to a multirole-fighter and the concept of the Rafale was always a multirole-fighter, for this reason the Rafale has better AG capabilities (e.g. higher payload), but in AA the EF has advantages especially in high altitudes and high speed combat (e.g. better thrust to weight ratio). In my opinion this are both very capable fighter. And the F35 isn't a replacement of the EF it's rather for replacement of the Tornado and the Harrier.
@@captin3149 Also... they had to drop out because other countries didn't want to develop a carrier capable version of the Typhoon.
So, the thing to remember about the French is their national security strategy. It's a top priority for them to maintain independent capability. That includes development, construction and sustainment. So they will cooperate with other nations, joint development and such, but they keep full copies of the blueprints, as it were. They develop their own aircraft, ships, vehicles and equipment across almost all types. They have an independent nuclear capability. They also maintain the capacity to achieve independent expeditionary operations. Pretty much unique capabilities in NATO aside from the US. It was really valuable from an American perspective during the WOT. One of the regions we were concerned with was terrorism in the Sahel region- an area of interest to the French. They also had the diplomatic network with local governments there so they had it handled with their regional allies with little direct assistance from the US. Meaning no disrespect to our other allies in NATO, because we all have our parts to play, but having an ally like that is great. It can also be a pain in the ass because if the the rest of NATO disagrees with the US, they're the first to tell us to, uhh, jog on (is that what you'd say in the UK? Bugger off, maybe?). But, you know, sometimes we may need to hear that.
Poland is a sneaky good military. I would say they are a top 4 nato military. And getting stronger. They are ordering a shit ton of all the top systems in the world
No doubt. With Russia behaving this way, they probably have all the public support they need and essentially a blank check to build their defense.
the original video is from 2 years ago, Poland has been on a shopping spree since
Poland just ordered over 800 JASSM-ER and 90 Apache helicopters
Do you say that as a polish person? Lol
@@codymiller9086 no I’m American. It’s a fact that they have modern equipment. And Eastern European men make excellent soldiers. They’ve had a good military for a long time. Now they’ve just modernized everything. New tanks and self propelled artillery from South Korea and the US They’re ordering hundreds of himars. New apaches, f35s.
The list is wrong, Türkiye is the 8th strongest military in the world and 3th in the nato (2024 data)
Largest does not equal strongest.
Turkiye has lots of stuff, specially from other NATO nations. But they don't know how to use it. Parking tanks on top of hill and complaining that these tanks then get wrecked...
@@Bjoern211klar deshalb haben sie in Lybien in Syrien in Azerbaijan Konflikte innerhalb kürzester Zeit beendet 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
@@Bjoern211🤡 Italy uk or France Are over turkey 🤡🤡 do you believe they would have even an chance together?
@batu1787should Uk 🤡🤡 really over turkey? Uk?🤡
I'm French and I can confirm that we don't have a Eurofighter. We have RAFALES and Mirage 2000.
The guy who made the video 😅 I'm really wondering from where he get all these wrong informations 😂
France is strong 💪
Don't you guys mostly produce all your own military equipment?
We also have rafales ❤❤ India
@@rabidDAWGfan82 Absolutely, we try to produce equipments by our own to preserve our sovereignty and autonomy from other major powers but also to export our equipments (Rafale).
We diverged from the Eurofighter program to build an aircraft suited to our needs. Our goal was to create a versatile multirole aircraft capable of deploying a french nuclear weapons systems (ASMPA) and executing carrier-based landings.
In the other hand other european countries wanted a superiority and interception role fighter. An now they need to buy F-35s to use nuclear weapons and seek the U.S. approval to use these bombs.
An other example, is that, the Rafale while in the initial years of service included certain technological components were American, this is no longer the case today. As a result, we have the flexibility to export it to nations where geopolitical interests may not align with American preferences (India).
France didn't surrender in WW1 were you engaged only in 1917.
France fought alongside america to bring them independance (ok more to trigger england than love for you).
Love how France surrended in 1940 after a strong fight and americans only remember this haha
yes and the Americans took 5 years to come....they let the Russians destroy Nazism, they just came to prevent Russia from taking all of Europe at the end when war was already won.
He is british though, so I think his quote ab us not being good fighters is just the classic anglo-french rivalry.
yes you are right my friend, the French were incredible, they fought with ferocity, let's not forget that the Germans trampled on the laws of war by bypassing the French army through Belgium by trampling on the neutrality of a country! The French had to urgently reorganize, which they did brilliantly despite all the difficulty. let's not forget that they faced a German army in top shape, fanaticized, and doped with Pervertine, an army which will be defeated but at the cost of 5 years of war and with the two biggest powers in the world of the time involved and 21 million deaths for Russia only! what should we hope for? that France resists an army made for conquest and war against an army made for peace? the French population at the time was 47 million people, Germany almost 70 million having, moreover, a fierce desire for revenge from WW1.
Don't forget that the French saved the British army from disaster and through their sacrifice allowed it to escape from Dunkirk and return to England.
Despite this, France held up very well, all you have to do is listen to the speeches of very famous German generals such as:
- General Erwin Rommel who described the fighting with the French army as "extremely tough" and recognized the ability of French troops to organize effective occasional resistance, despite unfavorable circumstances.
- Général Heinz Guderian One of the main architects of the Blitzkrieg and commander of the German armored (Panzer) forces, Guderian also expressed his respect for the French army. In his memoirs, Erinnerungen eines Soldaten ("Memories of a Soldier"), he mentioned that French units fought with admirable courage, notably the armored divisions.
- Felfmarchal Franz Halder, chief of Staff of the German Army during the French campaign, Halder noted in his diary the fierce resistance of French units
- Feldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt who notably highlighted the difficulty of breaking through certain defensive lines
- Général Hans von Kluge whop did not understand how these French people could resist with so much courage and valor to protect at the cost of their lives the pocket of Dunkirk where the English were embarking in disaster towards England
- Etc etc...
no, the French were remarkable against a disproportionately superior army!
To finish I will quot you the dramatic moment of this verbal confrontation under the bombs between the French (Abrial, Fagalde, Altmayer) and the future British Marshal Alexander who evacuated his troops and refused the fight while the French continued to resist :
-Fagalde (french): So you admit that the French army alone is covering the embarkations of the British army, while the British army is not providing any assistance to the French army for its withdrawal?
-Alexander (english): I am more than willing to cooperate with you, but I must inform you that my troops will begin withdrawing tonight at midnight, in accordance with the orders I have received from General Gort.
-Altmayer (french): I believe I must insist on the concept of honor. We are fighting to save everything that can be saved, whether British or French, but we cannot leave our position without feeling that we have fulfilled our duty. That moment has not yet arrived. We can achieve more, provided the British are willing to assure us of their support.
-Alexander (english): I have received orders to embark at midnight.
-Altmayer (french): But, General, we have been given a mission by Admiral Abrial and General Fagalde, explicitly confirmed by General Gort. It is to defend the Dunkirk bridgehead with all available French forces and three British divisions. We must fulfill this mission.
-Alexander(english): I have not received orders from General Gort.
-Abrial (french): In sum, the letter that General Gort wrote to me, the only one I consider valid, contradicts the verbal orders he gave you, General. To ensure we act in full agreement, I propose that we go together to see General Gort. It is 4:30 PM, and he told me he would not embark until 7 PM. La Pérouse, please announce our visit to General Gort.
-Alexander (english): There is no need to see General Gort; he left at 4 PM.
-Abrial (french): Since we can no longer count on British cooperation, General, the mission assigned to me will be carried out by French troops alone. We French are bound by an imperative mission: to resist to the death to save as much personnel as possible from the Dunkirk bridgehead. As long as that goal is not achieved, we will stay in place.
In reality, notes Dominique Lormier, who brought this dialogue to light, General Gort did not leave Dunkirk until 2 AM on the night of May 31 to June 1, 1940
Probably in the next 5 years, when the TFX fighter jets, I-class frigates, TF2000 destroyers and aircraft carriers developed by Turkey come into service, Turkey will be NATO's 2nd largest military power. It should not be forgotten that Turkey is currently Nato's 2nd largest army in terms of the power it gives to Nato.
If donkeys could fly...
Don't pay attention to what biased and jealous people say! Turkey is the 7th largest military power in the world after England, which is far behind Turkey in terms of conventional power. This actually makes Turkey the 2nd largest NATO power! Considering that Turkey has risen from 11th place to 8th place in just a few years and that the Turkish defense industry is developing very quickly, it would not be surprising for it to rise from 8th place to 5th place in a few years.
turkish fan boys always lives in the dream , very funny , look at who are the biggest arms sellers in the world and you will have an idea of who has the best weapons
@@YanGarcia-rk7fu Yorumunu zamanı gelince hatırlatırım sana :) savaş gemilerinin bir çoğu hizmete alındı. savaş uçakları ise seri üretime girecek. senin gibi salaklar sağ olsun uyuyan devi uyandırdılar. bir kaç sene sonra görürsün güç dengelerinin nasıl değiştiğini
Greece has such a large military compared to others of its size and wealth because they are worried about Turkey.
And for a good reason. Turkey would invade as soon as they see greece to be weak.
Isn't Turkey in NATO 😅
Turkey and Greece is the highest tension relationship within NATO. The two nations are bitter rivals even though they are both in the alliance
@@ryss1 nato countries can still attack eacother, and article 5 can't be activated, so there gonna be american mediation if there is between them
@@ryss1 yes but they have a long history together of issues before NATO and even after.
Turkiye needs to be updated seriously, they are number two, as they should be. they are number 8 in the world according to global fire power, but that only takes into account numbers which are only 50% of the deal, it doesn't take into account experience and capabilities etc. Turkiye has one of the best army's in the world.
Also the fact that Britain and France are up there thanks to nuclear capabilities not real army power
@@dorukcider4117 même sans le nucléaire, la capacité de la France et de la Grande-Bretagne sont meilleures que celle de la Turquie ! vous confondez grande armée avec armée puissante ! La Turquie et une grande armée, mais pas plus puissante que la France ou la Grande-Bretagne !
@@tikou8377 funny :)
@@tikou8377 hahahaha without any experiences on a real battlefiled ?
@@ecruz99 la France à tellement plus d'expérience que la Turquie. Elle date de quand vos dernières guerres ???, car nous depuis 1958 on n'arrête pas ! tu veux la liste tien dans tes dents le néophytes! Crise de Bizerte, Première guerre civile tchadienne, Guerre du Sahara occidental, Deuxième guerre du Shaba, Conflit tchado-libyen, Guerre du Liban, Guerre du Golfe, Guerre civile djiboutienne, Guerre de Bosnie-Herzégovine, Guerre du Kosovo, Guerre d’Afghanistan, Crise politico-militaire en Côte d'Ivoire, Première guerre civile centrafricaine, Première guerre civile libyenne, Guerre du Mali, Troisième guerre civile centrafricaine, Guerre contre l'État islamique, guerre d'Ukraine non officieux ! ou vous êtes ou vous ? a oui, vous tuez des petits peuples opprimés dans votre zone frontalière.
Poland in the future will have 600 HIMARS systems and 1,000 155 mm self-propelled howitzers . Poland will have about 1,600 tanks
Not Himmars only MLRS as it will be mix of HIMMARS, Chungwo from South Korea and Polish RW Langusta.
Also Poland won't be able to buy extra 1000 MBT. Rather I. Total we will have as a nation around 1000 top MBT which you can buy now.
Also our air defence will be the strongest in Europe after modernisation will end.
Turkiye has 700.000 military personnel, 2.000 tanks, 13.000 armored vehicles and over 200 fighter jets. Most of the tanks are m60 sabra(modernized version), leopard 1 and leopard 2. Fighter jets are f-16 fighting falcon and most are f-16 block 70(modernized version). How is it possible that Italy, France and the UK are in front of Turkey with only 200.000 military personnel, 200 tanks and 100 fighter jets? Same thing for Poland, they have more combat vehicles than the others even they are 9th. We all know Turkey is up to fight and always doing cross-border operations so they have proved itself. I think Turkey is more capable of a conventional war than the others, except the U.S.
I don't know why Italy is 4'th but UK and France both has Nukes, ICBM's, nuclear attack submarines and real aircraft carriers not LHD's pretending to be carriers.
@@engineeranonymous It makes sense. Nukes and ICBMs are game-changer weapons. However, Turkey is far stronger than the others in a conventional war in my opinion. I do not think that no one dares to use Nukes in a war so Turkey should be on the top after the U.S.
@@engineeranonymous Turkey has nuclear too with usa nuclear share program(I don't remember programs name)
@@eamoshhh BS. France can manufacture most of its weapons. France doesn't rely on other countries to arm itself, whereas Turkey is buying most of its stuff abroad. In case of war, it is essential to produce your weapons yourself, not to mention no one in the western world would provide anything valuable to Turkey. You could only buy russian crap.
@@Wolf_28-61 false nuclear with Rusia no USA, always a treason
Dire que l'armée française se rend est totalement faux. Les anglais ont fuis à Dunkerque, protégé par l'armée française. Nous avons continuer à se battre en France pendant que les anglais étaient acclamé sur leur îles.
Not too sure about what's going on with France's conventional military but I do know it's all fun and games until the foreign legion is involved... those guys have nothing better to do and you might just make their day if you challenge them.😂
I completely understand you. They also keep telling us Italians that we changed sides when, in fact, all they would have to do is study and understand that in World War I it was a defensive alliance and therefore no pact was broken. And in World War II, a civil war broke out. Or when they say that we did nothing in World War II. But beyond the fact that these things are false (even if they were true, it's been 80 years, I would say things have changed), but I repeat that they are false.
Les turcs on battue les anglais et les français en même temp (bataille de dardanelles )1915-1916
Pourtant il y sont derrière la liste de l'otan.
Si la France n'aurait pas eu le nucléaire il ne seront même pas dans le top 10.
La france est une armée qui ne possède pas d'expérience sur le terrain , ils y aura beaucoup de perte militaires français si un jour une guerre éclate.
@@aka5-9 La France est le pays qui a le plus de victoires militaires au monde, de toute l'histoire de l'humanité. Comment ca pas d'experience?
@@giovannimonfardino4075 Yep. I hate when people make fun of either France or Italy, it's always the people who wouldn't even dare to pick up a rifle that speak the most shit.
Im pretty sure Turkish and pologne gonna be a huge potential army
Poland is increasing in a hardcore lvl. (I'm french)
Currently, In troop u can rank them 2nd.
Nice Analysis
France makes there own fighters in house , if I remember Rafale didn’t want to get involved in the euro fighter ,only Germany , Italy , uk and Spain
Edit : I meant dassult not rafale , got confused between the company and model
French foreign legion? One of their best units and it’s made up of all foreign troops become French citizens.
@@mollybrunsonsmith9450 nothing to do with what I was talking about
There is a mistake in the video. Türkiye is 8th in the world and 3rd in NATO.
You don't have aircraft carriers and 5th gen aircraft.
Bro ig u live in cave we have TCG anadolu and KAAN jet@@askallois
nope, this list was actualized, counting economic power and technology too, not only numbers like before! Italy has 1000 Leo1 tank, they get dismantled, Turkey still uses it, they cost a lot, but most are not even ready for combat!
@@Ezekiel903 bro Italy have 5th gen jet or carrier ? Türkiye have both TCG anadolu and KAAN so that means Türkiye still stronger than Italy and France
@@Nuclear_Fallen_King1 turkey has not even 5 gen fighter, and they have no planes for the carrier!!! the fighter made only his first flight! Italy has 2 carrier and F35, + Typhoon, best ships and a much bigger economy! I was in the Turkish military, otherwise I had to pay a lot of money, most tanks are useless, bcz no money to maintain!
France participated in the Eurofigther project, but saw how bad it was and decided to make the best plane: the Rafale.
We do have reserve personnel in Poland. Every adult man (without serious health issues) aged between 18 and 63 years old are reservists. We also have Territorial Defence Force which is 40k+ people (light infantry). Also some paramilitary organisations but I don't know exact numbers. Regarding tanks: most of our T-74 and PT-91 tanks were send to Ukraine. We replaced them with Abrams tanks and K2 tanks from Korea (they will be modernized into K2PL). Some MIG fighters, and I heard that some SU, were also send to Ukraine. There are some korean made FA-50 (or FA-50PL) + we are waiting for our F-35. Regarding artillery we are using eg. AHS Krab, KMO Rak, SpGH Dana, K9 Thunder, WR-40 Langusta, HIMARS and korean made Chunmoo. We are trying to replace old post-soviet BMP-1 with our homemade IFV Borsuk but it is still in the process.
They mean trained reserves. Now Poland has trained reserves but that's maybe 30000-50000. Mostly ex military personnel.
@@zaqwerty22 Territoral Defence is also considered as reserve personnel
@@srebrnikjudasza In Poland those 32000 is counted as part of active personnel. Only ex Territorial Defence Forces personel is counted as reserve personel.
@@zaqwerty22 I know but by definition of reserve personnel Territorial Defence is included
@@srebrnikjudasza yes but in Poland Defence Ministry count DF as active personnel.
The USA has 1957 fighter jets + 2000 F-35s on order! 4,000 combat aircraft in total.
But the f35 is 50% operational...
@@bobsmakyr30%
Thats truly mental, so many.
thats not working like this, the new 2000 aircraft will replace the ancient aircrafts... so the amount stay at 2000
@@ThePsycho022 Even the F-16 will not be replaced! only the older ones. The US may have an estimated 3,750 aircraft, roughly 4,000, it's just a number.
800 billion dollars a year baby !
Way to go man
This year is something like 880-890 billion $
About 874.2 billion dollars for 2024.
and stiil you lost from taliban
@timosthomo566
You realize American pretty much fights with one arm behind their backs? America could level that whole country if they felt like it. Everything is a game of politics and saving face. Everyone would be pretty upset if American erased an entire country from the map.
you need to know that economy and manufacturing power should be included! Greece has so many tanks, most Leo1 can't even start the engine like Turkey, Italy has 1000Leo1 tanks, they will be dismantled. If you count manufacturing power most nation would end far behind
Turkey and Poland are the rising stars new kid Finland is the unknown but the terrain they fight from is going to be great for training 🤘🤘🤘
Turkey already has a very strong and experienced army. For 40 years we have been at war with the PKK. We entered Syria and Iraq and in the 70s we made Cyprus Turkish soil again.
This country, which you do not take seriously, has its own advanced defense industry and technology companies, and we recently flew our 5th generation fighter jet.
Yes, our economy is terrible, there are many political crises in the country. But the Turkish army is growing and developing independently. Don't be afraid, we need to eat 40 loaves of bread to become like the Ottomans. And we have no eyes on your lands. As long as you don't try to establish a state etc. on our borders that acts against us.
@@mustafasavuljust 1 bread and 1 fromage to become like napoleon army here (🇨🇵) lol.
Im glad we have turkey & poland. Currently, in the top 5.
My country out of 10 without the nuclear submarines.
@@mustafasavul hahaha you made cyprus turkish soil ??AGAIN?? poso malakas eisai re poustotourke.
@@ΠαζαρακιαΣιτιIf you come to the northern regions, I can offer you the baklava and other original Anatolian dishes you stole from us, the best neighbor in the region.
@@ΠαζαρακιαΣιτι You can cry, Cyprus is Turkish land
Türkiye is the country with the most attack UAVs in the world after the USA and China. Türkiye changed the course of the war in Armenia, Syria, Libya and Ukraine with its UAVs such as TB2, Akıncı and Anka. Türkiye has more than 300 active UAVs. This alone is enough to be in the top 3.
The script read by that AI voice neglected bombers in air force strengths, and idiotically described the A-10 Thunderbolt II (the Warthog) as a fighter, when it is an attack aircraft that carries a couple of self-defense IR-guided missiles. It did not distinguish between branches of military service, apparently lumping all active-duty personnel into the 'army'.
The mispronunciations were consistent and blatant.
It also neglected long-range missile capability. It's a collection of the sloppiest sort of generalizations.
In a conventional warfare Turkey is definetely stronger than France and Italy and likely stronger than UK, thats exactly why Greece has 12 submarines, also in these comparison lists i never seen active personnel numbers of turkish gendarmerie, they are literally same with the land forces, in a war time they will be also deployed and they have around 200k personnel
You should see how much Polands military has grown since this video.
Bro this video is so old.
You should take this video again because turkey has reached the 3th on nato in 2024 we has got 5th gen fighter and we have a huge uav army.
What is Turkey’s 5th Gen aircraft ??
@@spoonm1237 tfx kaan
@@spoonm1237 nah he is wrong. Im turkish as well. Rn we have 4.5 gen which is a prototype for 5th gen in development that will happen in approximate 10 years. Ppl call it 4.5 gen due to its engine and some other compartments. You can check TF-X program.
Greece has a lot of submarines because they have a chain of islands. "That is the reason why they need submarines" to protect their land.
From who? Greece can't do jack sh*t.
We have a population of 10 million, half of them are elderly, you cannot cope with Türkiye.
Seriously what is with the 🐂 💩 comments. I only mentioned why they have submarines, ain't it obvious.
Problem with the world today is everyone is opinionated about nothing, just absolutely bollocks.
Who really gives a shit what you think.
@@ahmetkarslgil2268 The Persianns said the same that they are milions but the answer was we are few but Spartans.
@@UNFORGIVEN1821 i bet you are an overweight, late mid aged unemployed man who lives in a dreamland. Perhaps in Germany
Turkey became third most powerful nato behind Uk and USA and 8 most powerful countries in the world
The Eurofighter Typhoon was a project between Germany, England, Spain and Italy. That's why these countries have the Eurofighters. But the Mirage is very similar to the Eurofighter.
Rafale*
funny to hear a brit saying that France is always surrendering... pretty much the only war France completely lost was WW2 and french soldiers sacrifice themself to let english soldiers leave at Dunkerque... so you probably need a history lesson about france military and specifically the history with England. We've been best enemies since 1500 years mate.
The list is very wrong. Turkiye is nr 2 in nato after usa, and rank top 10 military in world
The topic of submarines in Spain is an endless discussion between the needs of the Armada, the money, the geostrategic position and the internal politics of the country, Spain has about 7900 Km of coastline, at least we need between 6 and 8 subarines, however, we are building the new series and there are only four😮💨, greetings and amazing video✌
It's correct that France doesn't operate Eurofighters, they have their domestic made Rafale instead. Also we germans ordered the F-35 as well and still operate the Tornado because Eurofighters can´t carry the B-61 tactical nuclear bomb
It’s a lol list, USA is obviously first, but second is Turkey, 3d France and U.K. comes in at 4 maybe 5, composting with Poland.
The French do not have any Typhoons. They preferred the Dassault Mirrage and Raffaele aircraft. The Raffaele is just as good as Typhoon and why buy the Eurofighter when your home grown aircraft is as good or better. France actually pulled out of the development of Typhoon when they realized that the Raffaele was just as capable and cost 22% less per aircraft.
En iyi uçağı fransa üretir 💪
Mirage and rafale aircrafts 😊
If you divide the number of American military aircraft by service the United States has 3 of the 5 largest air forces in the World. The United States Air Force is #1, the United States Navy is #2 and the United States Marine Corp is #5 based on total number of aircraft.
I hope so, and in the future you will not beg other countries for help in your war with China.
But Polish ordered south Corean fighters f35 from the usa and more than 1000 k2 balck pabther tanks.... more then 600 rocket launchers and more than 700 Self probeld guns... the contracts a save and bayed the polish forec ways for the delivery... the numbers is hoples old and he make a contract for more than 200 m1 tanks..
Keep in mind the top three countries in the list are the only ones that have nuclear subs in their navies and all three are nuclear weapon armed for MAD deterrence.
Well, the French nuclear policy is a little different of the US/UK ones x)
@@hyrikul602Yes, but policy is not capability. You don't get a higher spot on the list just because your doctrine is more lenient with the use of Nuclear Weapons
@@Jugement je ne suis pas sur que la politique francaise soit plus indulgente vis a vis de l'arme nucleaire, Against a larger enemy, France will not hesitate.
@@germainmozet-z3n That's not what I said, I do in fact agree with that. What I meant is that the Nuclear policy of France being more assertive doesn't mean it should get bonus points when discussing capabilities
@@Jugement I agree, but we all know the capacity of each person. If France were experiencing the same war as Ukraine today, the nuclear bomb would have already been sent.
This was clearly done before Finland joined nato.
Turkey is the 2. largest army in NATO
Turkisch drones won 3 wars with ease and is ranked 4. These statistics are anceint. Everybody knows after the US, Turkiye is by far the most powerfull one. Theyve became a regional power, not only by drones. Do some research. Americans know this quite well.
lol, se complexe d'infériorité et très fort chez les Turques quitte à oublier que beaucoup de pays sont plus puissants qu'eux^^
@@tikou8377maybe i have, but my statement is a fact
@@ArdaDo je vais plus simple pour toi, il y a 7 pays En Europe qui sont plus puissants que la Turquie.
@@tikou8377 th-cam.com/video/bWM8EYUJc3Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dqGaQrwqpIeoyYJS
Turkiye smashed Armenia backed by Russia and France, smashed Syria backed by Russia. Smashed Hafter in Libya, backed by France and Italy. They are winning every war and proxy war.
You keep thinking that wars are won by youtube lists 😄
Yeah not only did the video miss the F-22 but it also missed the sky wardens, which fair enough but it would have been fun to see them
Also the stealth planes like the B-2 and etc... I wonder why they were left off the list.
F22 is a US asset not a NATO one
PS; Wrt the UK and French navies, I also note multiple discrepancies. Eg, that though France's 3 x Mistral Class LPHs are listed, the UK's 2 x Albion Class LPDs are somehow omitted completely.
A trainer is a simple fighter of some kind, used to introduce pilots to the faster aircraft I believe.
Right, but which can be armed immediately as light ground fighters.
The video contains incorrect data about Poland. Poland has reserve troops, plus the data does not match, but it's a video from 2023, it's not surprising, Poland is now in 6th place in the NATO ranking
It's not just 11 submarines from Greece, compared too much larger countries the Fjets are enormous.
Spain currently have 2 submarines, 1 old S-70 Galerna class and 1 brand new S-80 + Isaac Peral class (considered the best non-nuclear submarine), but the S-80 + program includes 3 other submarines that will enter in service in the next years (4 in total), with the possibility of increasing to 6 units in total.
Turkey should be higher than Italy right? Numbers just seem crazy difference, and I feel like Turkey would actually have better trained and experienced military since they are located in a dangerous region, especially compared to Italy no?
Turkey has crap equipment
Italy has triple the economic power of Turkey...
@@GIUSEPPE2245 it has also larger economy than Russia too, but it doesnt make italy stronger than Russia right? 🤣
@@emiryalcn8922italy got a way better navy force than turkey: It currently has 10 Fremm frigates (which will become 18), ships that the USA also is buying, the Horizon class destroyers, and 3 aircraft carriers carrying F-35s. not to mention that by 2035 it will have the sixth generation Tempest fighter available.
@@RT-ff7ew but italy cant defend their borders they getting invaded day by day
it's funny to read/watch these list, due to quite often they aren't accurate (for it's time).
For example Poland have an reserve force, but they are not writing it up on the list, the same way other countries does.
Norway is also a good example (my country), people call Norway's military small and that is the trick! (I would say that of course)
the active force is the active force, but it's when you start to look at reserve numbers things starting to get weird! Norway's Home Guard is listed as the reserve force, when it is actually something between active and reserve force, they are almost similar as a normal active infantry force. What is not listed, is the 170000 reserve force, where 40000 of them are doing Home Guard duty
In 2030, Turkey will have 18 submarines, 24 frigates, 1 destroyer, 1 aircraft carrier (sea tests begin) and 1 helicopter carrier. It is clear that it will be NATO's largest navy after the USA. It is also currently included in the 17th Frigate inventory. 13. It is about to enter the submarine inventory. He has a helicopter carrier in inventory. Turkey is at a very good level in terms of unmanned marine vehicles. The only marine vehicle that successfully completed the NATO exercise was Turkey's unmanned marine vehicle. In the asymmetric war, we saw in the Ukraine-Russia war that these weapons are very dangerous for warships.
France have aircraft and 4 balistic submarine nuclear
@@alensmiljanic3844 It is nuclear deterrence. It is not possible to use it operationally. Because there is no winner in such a war. Additionally, Türkiye is working on Nuclear submarines. Türkiye has ballistic missiles, it is very possible to reach the intercontinental level. There is defense cooperation with nuclear power Pakistan. Türkiye may also take steps towards the nuclear in issue towards the 2030s.
For the US Navy the 11 aircraft carriers are just the nuclear aircraft carriers if I'm not wrong we still have nine regular aircraft and I didn't see any mention of amphibious landing craft at all like the Marines use
UK is receiving 56 Apache -E helicopters which is the latest and last version of the Apache. USA numbers "USA Don't play"
Not sure why Greece is at 10... Kinda seems like it should be at 6 by the numbers given... Probably economy and population played a part.
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Summary
The video discusses the top 10 most powerful militaries within NATO, with predictions provided by the speaker who has a military background. The speaker talks about the military strengths of countries such as Greece, Poland, Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, Turkey, the UK, France, and the United States. The video details the military capabilities of each country, including the number of personnel, equipment, aircraft, tanks, submarines, and naval vessels. The speaker also mentions upcoming videos on military jets and discusses the potential implications of these military strengths in the event of a large-scale war. The video concludes by stating the speaker's opinion on the top three countries with the strongest militaries as the UK, France, and America, with Italy at number four. Additionally, the video encourages viewers to like, comment, and subscribe to the channel for more military content.
I noticed that the U.S. air force did not include the second largest air force in the world...the U.S. Navy/Marine Corps
Italy fighter jets stats are wrong that 92 is referred only to eurofighters there are also 20+ f35 and in 2030 they should be 75 f35s
Italy and Spain have a ton of trainers because they are designated air force training centers for NATO.
Türkiye has the 2.strongest army after usa in Nato. This list is bullsh*t.
I'm not sure what metric is used for this ranking. It's kind of confusing. But Canada doesn't need a huge military. They're out neighbor.
wow.. Royal Marine doesn't know how many countries is in NATO...
You knows?! The number is always increasing every year.
@@Vanduo610Man everyone should know becouse they talk about it every day. Every year its just like +1 or two so whats the problem?
@@Milo51537 What is the problem? Why anyone would need to know exact number of members? Who cares, if we are strongest in the world?!
32, simple guys
Royal marine who doesn't know what plane operate it's closest ally
Trust me Canadas Military is not top ten, its a joke, a paper army.
France pulled out of the Eurofighter program and made their own instead that being the Refael
Why sweden is not here ?
There is no 11 militaries in Nato. US, Turkey, France. Thats it.
Yeah no mate. Turkey is severely outdated compared to Poland, Greece, Italy, and UK.
But Turkey acts so unreliably they are a member of Nato in name only..very friendly with Russia and very hostile to Israel.
Dude, the french have never wanted to design something in cooperation with anyone. At the very least they back down near the end and then take all the design choices they like and then design their own - be they tanks or aircraft.
That said, it also means they have a strong domestic industry and that's a thing to be respected.
Jaguar, Alphajet, Concorde, C 160 Transall, A400M, EC 665 Tiger, hell, Airbus, Arianespace, MBDA, CFM International...
I would suspect that Sweden would fit easily in the top 10 list. Finland and Sweden joining NATO made Russia VERY nervous.
Nowhere near. Sweden's military is a pathetic shadow of what it was 30 years ago. They've started rebuilding, but it will take decades.
Also for Germany you got to imagine they had restrictions on their military for a while until about 1960 so they had a lot of catching up to do
...also very serious restrictions and almost forced downsizing after reunification in the late 80s.
Greece and Turkey are not on the most friendly terms. Greece's military is mostly to offset Turkey.
France does what they want and refuse to use other countries equipment if they don't have to. So they make most of their own stuff, and I am pretty sure are the #3 arms dealing nation in the world after the US and Russia. Though after Russia's debacle in Ukraine, France may be #2 now.
Yeah they're second now
Turkiye number 2 in otan man, information erroned
That stab at france made me giggle
The information used in the film about POLAND is not current and not true: 134.5 k professional soldiers, 34.3 k soldiers of the Territorial Defense Forces, 14.5 k soldiers of voluntary compulsory military service. Data for 2023: a total of 191.5 thousand soldiers.
France and poland will be up there
TECHNICALLY every male between the age of 18 to 50/60(not sure), without something prohibiting him from joining an army is considered a reserve personnel in Poland and are called "passive reserve".
Turkey has more Figther Jets and Personal. This information is wrong. They have the second largest army behind USA
What’s wild is that we still posses the manufacturing capabilities to double or triple those numbers within a year if absolutely necessary.
For the USA they didn't give the number of aircraft for the Navy (over 4,000 aircraft) and US Marines (1,200 aircraft). The US Navy fighter force is better than other countries entire air force. Also the 9 "helo" carriers are going to be F35 capable as well.
greece at the time of the video also had 22 dasault rafale and around 25 f16 vipers
You realy think italy ore franse can beat Türkiye don't be a fool when its ware against Türkiye believe evry Türk will be a soldier. In NATO Türkiye is second strongest army afther usa.
Are you american ? In France we build our own planes and we have the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale, which is the best multirole plane in the world.
Whats its role ? What france army do? Threating poor african dynasties? Do they even fight ? Do we hear french army of troops any place or conflict around the world ? You guys do good luxury bags and perfumes please keep it up
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@@didierpaya9069 i am reading history with real books ..not the ones they teach you..good luck with this brain
France were originally a partner in the Eurofighter project, but left in a huff about some petty thing and went off on their own to do the Rafaele.
petty thing ? they refuse to make the jet ready for aicraft carrier !!!
typhon can't be on a carrier man ... that the reason .
@@TelManothHexperax Because the JSF (or as you know it, the F-35) was due for that r^ole.
As an American who always gets giddy seeing the US on any of these lists, it’s cool to see that other countries are hyped to see themselves on these lists too. Btw, always love the UK as our closest allies, ride or die bulldogs. Been subscribed for years now keep up the good fun
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Afaik, we have 137 Eurofighters and now, 31 of the 32 F35-Bs as yet delivered. One F35 having taken a nosedive over Hms Queen Elizabeth's ski-jump into the Med. We also do still have over 300 x C2 MBTs though only the c210 cited are still operational and with the C3 life extension UK tank nos will reduce yet further to just under 150. Meanwhile, the French in fact have even fewer operational MBTs than we have and though lighter French AFVs outnumber UK ones by approaching c6,600 compared to just over c5,000 French AFVs are all wheeled, not tracked and less capable than the big % of UK tracked equivalents.
The Eurofighter trainer aircrafts can be used for combats as well. The double seaters (trainers) are the same as the single seaters ones.
Türkiye is 2nd in nato now you speak about 1960
Italy Spain Poland Canada are over rated Turkey is the second biggest army in NATO and also Greece is under rated
What about experience? How capable these armies to effectively use what they have in their inventory? What are their levels of readiness? What is the ratio of operational equipment?
The experience ispretty much converging at the same level due nato conjoint training.
The LAND higher level of readines, if we talk about nato readiness troops Corps, the best are the Italians of the Folgore Brigade Paratroopers, capable to deploy mortars and their foot on the ground on land, with a launch, in 80 minutes (nato numbers). If we talking about in combact readiness status of weapons, USA above all and then France. Italy and UK in this period have some issue with their land forces (they are rethinking their recruitment system due what's happening in Ukraine).
AIRFORCES AND NAVIES: USA above all, then Italy and UK are very strong with their navy and af, expecially in multifomain and electronic warfare. France have a slightly better navy than UK and Italy due their blue wather capabilities.
The ratio of operational equipment of USA is massive, the European one actually can sustain a medium term war, not a long one. But the whole Europe is working to activating their silent war industry, due Ukraine facts.
Hey just thought I should point it out the thumbnail of your video is incorrect! Those are ZTZ99 Tanks which belong to China and are NOT operated by NATO countries.
watching this as an American I feel powerful
The Polish Army will call in reservists for exercises. According to plans, approximately 200,000 people will be trained , 2024r.
I hope we all agree that, with the exception of a few countries, these are just numbers and most are inept at fighting.
drones drones and drones. Turkey has more deadly drones they most on this list. This list is not accurate .
In France we have the Rafale right now, no eurofighter jet...
Poland is going to be the main country to challenge Russia after America has walked away. They know that and that is why the are investing heavily, urgently, to get up to speed. They have tried hard to support Ukraine, and done a good job of it. It will play to their advantage as Russia has worn its stocks down over the last two years. Poland with a modernized military will be in a far better position as a result to challenge Russia. This could have all been over if it wasn't for American domestic politics. That was always going to be the deciding factor in the Russian Ukrainian war, and it has proven to be right. Whilst it should not be down to America, alone, to save the Ukrainians, it is America that has fucked it all up.
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The video he's reacting to is 2 years old. A lot has changed since then to be fair
In France we have our own fighters since decades. It was AlphaJet for training, Mirage 2000 for active missions, and since 2000, one of the best multirole fighter in the world, the Rafale.
And our Aircraft Carrier is a nuclear propulsed Aircraft Carrier and the only one compatible with US Marine aircrafts.
So our Rafale can land and take off from US aircraft carriers as US aircrafts can land and take aff on our french Aircraft Carrier.
bro Greeks and Turks alone are 23 submarines, more than 4K tanks, 400 fighter jets, over 1 million soldiers, and thousands of armored vehicles… beautifull 😳
İtaly stronger than turkey? how can it be posible?
It's called reality check.
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I'm pretty sure that his numbers for the US aircraft are wrong. I think that the us has the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd largest air forces in the world, that may be why he didn't list all the different types of airplanes they use as some of them technically fall under the navy or the army.
I think militaries all over the world are moving from barreled arty pieces to rocket/missile based arty pieces. They are more efficient at targeting, have a much longer range and can redeployed faster.
there is some value in blind munitions. a shell once it's fired is very hard to intercept and can't be subject to EW to mess up it's targetting. i heared that the US navy is giving a second though to battleships over carriers recently for such reasons. a shell is completly passive and once it's shot either you evade it or you get pummeled.
@Netscape-kd6mg Maybe, but for example the 127 Oto Melara with Vulcan guided ammunition reaches 120 km, with an accuracy of 2 metres. You can also use conventional shots, but the guided ones activate the GPS, or IR, or Laser when the bullet is almost on the vertical of the target. The 76 in Strales version guides a projectile with a radar beam towards the target. Good for drones and subsonic anti-ship missiles.
@@askallois laser and IR can be countered and GPS scrambled so even if tehy start dummy, in a situation where their active targetting is countered because the enbemy simply just counters blindly because tehy know you have that then all your gazdgety bling is just ewaste that drives up the cost. in the end it's cheaper to sedn 30k dumb rockets to carpet the area over on gided missile that's a one shot kill given a conflict prolongs long enought. All mlilitary experts are in agreement that our hightech gadgets is usefull in war only because we don't have real battlefieldzs nowadays. the ukrainien war was teh first real prolonged conflicts we've had in decades and they see that supplying any real amount of smart munitions in numbers enough to matter just costs way too much over long periods of time