Is Rugby Union Officially Dead In Australia?

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  • @MattTheGinger
    @MattTheGinger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I have a mate who went into marketing for Rugby Union Aus to try help them with becoming interesting again. He suggested engagement with fans and leaning into super coach, they went with NFTs. He left shortly after. The sport might recover if they make better decisions in how to get younger people interested

    • @Br0wnCh3
      @Br0wnCh3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shits pucked! Bloody idiots at the top smh

    • @elevan2760
      @elevan2760 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MattTheGinger what were they selling in NFT's? I dont really understand what the offering is?

    • @TheCaptain001
      @TheCaptain001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MattTheGinger Interesting inside knowledge man. I am a Kiwi, but I love rugby and would really prefer that the Bledisloe was a game to look forward to rather than a ‘given result’. As always you need to get the younger generation involved (I’m 44 and there is no way my knees or back could take that punishment!), but if Rugby Union Oz is as bureaucratic as I know everything in Oz is (no offence, I live in west Oz and love the place 👍) then there is no hope. Lose the mind numbing bureaucracy and KISS. Put money into ‘grass roots’ rugby and put Australia back on the world map. With all due respect, the Wallabies wouldn’t be in the top 10 teams right now and some of their results make me wonder if my local under 11’s female touch side could go through them. They need to lose the ego and get back to basics and regain what they were 20 years ago.
      Cool name as well Ginger 😂😂😂 peace brother 👍

    • @johnkerr5219
      @johnkerr5219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sri Lanka...No R

  • @paulverdon4362
    @paulverdon4362 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I looked it up, there's more people playing rugby in Sri Lanker than in Australia

    • @sammyclarke1206
      @sammyclarke1206 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well thats a lie, show me this data. Rugby is big in Sri Lanka but they have nowhere near as many regos as Australia.

    • @paulverdon4362
      @paulverdon4362 ปีที่แล้ว

      have you heard of google?@@sammyclarke1206

    • @gus-qj2mp
      @gus-qj2mp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats false data, thats participation not registered players. Union has well over 300k participants in Aus but under 160k registered players.@@paulverdon4362

    • @victordastile5204
      @victordastile5204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No way😂😂😂

    • @CommissionerManu
      @CommissionerManu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sammyclarke1206mate, just google it. I did, with as much doubt as you have, and he’s right. It’s both incredible and damning, but he’s right.

  • @erwerwewerwer4575
    @erwerwewerwer4575 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Rugby Administration in Australia has been horrible over the past two decades, so it's no wonder it's on the brink of extinction.

    • @TheCaptain001
      @TheCaptain001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erwerwewerwer4575 Brother you say ‘Administration’ and I see ‘Bureaucracy’. There’s the issue man. I’m a Kiwi but I want to see Australia back in the game because I love my rugby and want to see good games 👍

  • @lachlangray9701
    @lachlangray9701 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Rugby isn’t dead at least not in Canberra everywhere I walk there are people in brumbies gear and we have a massive comp I love going to brumbies game but our stadium is so shit that’s why raiders and brumbies crowds are down

    • @JackH2254
      @JackH2254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What would u do to improve the stadium? If they do rebuild or upgrade it, I hope they keep the ‘dug out’ design because it’s unique and interesting.

    • @lachlangray9701
      @lachlangray9701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JackH2254no I would rebuild it in civic but keep the design of the roof with the wires supporting it because I like that design

  • @theflyingdropbear2009
    @theflyingdropbear2009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    for me I support both AFL and Rugby Union, the problem is, when it comes to Rugby in Australia, the money is in the NRL, even if we have investment into Rugby, more people who are interested in Rugby, will likely go to League over Union.
    that in general is the issue, we have put all our eggs into one basket, while neglecting the other, sadly Union has suffered as a result, that also means that Rugby Union may never recover. Even if there was a way to rebuild Rugby Union in Australia, I fear that it is too late, it will never overcome Rugby League, since there is too much money in the NRL.

  • @caintindal1671
    @caintindal1671 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They have to focus on getting a national competition with around 12 teams and play rugby no changing the rules to try and put fans in the seats it is about playing rugby like the rest of the world. Some of you say rugby is hard to understand and slow but it is not for everyone and it is hard to change generation of rugby league fans you may aswell keep the fans you have rather than getting more. Super Rugby is still good they need help from a National competition to grow and also to help them grow our playeres and coaches. Qld and NSW for at least 4 teams each and then 2 from Melbourne 1 from Canberra Adelaide and Western Australia.

  • @markbph2336
    @markbph2336 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    australian rugby is continuing its downward spiral.
    so many bad ARU management decisions have resulted in fans, players and money leaving australian rugby.
    the next few years are financially crucial to rugby union in australia.
    the lions tour and world cup.
    a SUCCESSFUL australian rugby team in the next few years is the key to rugby union remaining a important sport in australia.
    ps. thanks mark. another great video...!

  • @2511dhall
    @2511dhall ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am an Englishman and I do want to see Australia compete, but Union has been in decline in my opinion since 2005 as the Socceroos have been regulars in the FIFA WC.

    • @AlanDavis-n8e
      @AlanDavis-n8e 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when do you think socceroos can win a soccer WC?

    • @2511dhall
      @2511dhall 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlanDavis-n8e maybe in the next 20 years

    • @jakeclough8090
      @jakeclough8090 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlanDavis-n8e300 years?

    • @juanantoniogomezdelpulgarg2273
      @juanantoniogomezdelpulgarg2273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in the next 50 years​@@AlanDavis-n8e

    • @mitchellsmith300
      @mitchellsmith300 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@AlanDavis-n8e Socceroos a never winning a world cup. The combination of low population, not enough popularity and the incredible competitiveness of the WC means Australia will never win

  • @Samizouza
    @Samizouza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Even with newbloods at RA, they have a lot of work to do to bring back the old glory days of union, especially if they're not culling the Rebels and Force again despite the strain on depth with the NRL thriving on grassroots.
    The new Rugby Coaching Director is a start to sort out the obvious issues from the ground up, but still very interesting discussions here.

  • @freddiemedley5580
    @freddiemedley5580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Australia!? Is that the big desert above New Zealand?

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The country so many people want to immigrate to

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many people did the stadium hold?

  • @usarugbyleagueunionfan
    @usarugbyleagueunionfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I knew Michael Hooper was captain and follow Super Rugby somewhat. I find it insane that AFL fans don’t know the difference between League and Union. I love both.

    • @sackthaat
      @sackthaat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not that they “dont know the difference” - they just think Rugby means NRL. Because Union is non existent here.

  • @mattvader2023
    @mattvader2023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's pretty sad that union has Gone this way in Australia. Outside of Australia league is basically amateur and as big as field hockey and afl is actually laughed at as a sport

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wareiors sold out every game last season. No Super Rugby team can say that. Anyway, it's irrelevant what people think outside Australia. Americans don't care nobody else likes NFL.

    • @mattvader2023
      @mattvader2023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @adtastic1533 just facts ! That it's small very small game ! Don't compare NFL to league and afl🤣

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AFL is laughed at, is it?? The sport attracts one of the biggest following per population in the world. And I'm no AFL fan myself, and field hockey is very strong in the sub continent and parts of Europe

    • @mattvader2023
      @mattvader2023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @DarwinNorth outside of australia the sport is a hit and giggle people laugh at it !

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@mattvader2023 Outside Australia, many sports could only dream of getting the crowds they do attract. And like I said before, I'm no AFL fan.

  • @Will.Flavell
    @Will.Flavell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Australian Rugby has declined since 2003 the year Wallabies lost the World Cup and the Bledisloe.

  • @AshMckay123
    @AshMckay123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its sad ( and typical Aussie attitude where they givin' everything on a silver platter and still very unappreciative 😠 ) imagine if a country like Georgie ( or maybe even Argentina) won the 1991 and 1999 🏆 RWC 🏉 , hosted the 2003 RWC , competed in the Superugby tournament since its beginning, being part of the Tri-Nations (Rugby Championship) and hosts regular B&Irish Lions tours where this beautiful game and popularity would have been today in their country?

  • @Johny_Utah
    @Johny_Utah ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you’re right about a national comp.

  • @Trajan2401
    @Trajan2401 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nek minit full stadium against Wales last weekend.

  • @MrAhuapai
    @MrAhuapai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fiji have never got near the RWC finals and its a religion there. Reports of rugbys demise in Aussie is sadly overrated.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Compared to where they were 20-25 years ago, the drop is kinda big mate!

  • @elevan2760
    @elevan2760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Theres still a strong club rugby and school rugby competition.. The ARU really needs to build on that. Super rugby has becone a joke amd nobody cares. You get more people to a school game than a super rugby team.

  • @milochamp1586
    @milochamp1586 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super rugby killed Rugby union in Australia and in Victoria. Not AFL or NRL. Australian rugby union marketing is the worst.

  • @joemangi9743
    @joemangi9743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    See listening to you two drongos beating around the bush without hitting hitting the nail on the head is what's wrong with rugby.. I'm an NRL fan and I don't mind a rugby game especially if it's a Queensland team.. the real problem with union is, ur too elitist.. league is everyones sport, state school, private school, whatever... AND WE DEVELOP PLAYERS From the GRASS ROOTS 👍🏾✊🏾💯.. it's not rocket science.. and we'll still steal ur players 😂😂😂

  • @zig6427
    @zig6427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The valium induced way we play the game is not enticing for our young,but as a game in of itself the young fellas love the run and wrestle aspect,the pathetic ARU have neglected juniors and regional grassroots must be the saviour!

  • @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013
    @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They need to drop Western Force and Melbourne Rebels

  • @MTG776
    @MTG776 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Remember the NRC? That was great!

    • @bluegold6682
      @bluegold6682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No

    • @MTG776
      @MTG776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bluegold6682 Google it,,,

  • @lukesuds5002
    @lukesuds5002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP Melbourne Rebels 🙏

  • @brettlamont5662
    @brettlamont5662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not the players it's the coaches choices and positioning of who"s selected. Add the mental incursion of expectations by Coaching staff and the Australian public. It's got to become a religion if you want culture like the All Black's,

  • @bluegold6682
    @bluegold6682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rugby League is growing far faster than Rugby Union especially in the Pacific and Europe. In Australia Rugby Union is now a footnote to the sporting landscape here. If you asked a 100 people to name a wallabys player they'd probably say Campese, Ella or Eales. No one could name a current squad member.

    • @bux5367
      @bux5367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rugby league internationally is dead...

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@bux5367 That's interesting. I've refereed Rugby league in Ireland, Czech Republic, Germany, and Serbia. And the pacific island nations are building the sport at an impressive rate so much so that nearly 50% of the NRL is from the islands or islander background.

    • @bux5367
      @bux5367 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DarwinNorth the next rugby league wc 2025 consist of 10 teams. THEY reduce it from 14 to 10. ANOTHER THING, why france pulled not to host the RLWC because they know the stadium will no be sold out. NOT EVEN THE FINAL

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bux5367 Yeah, and does that mean the game is dead?? Just look at the enormous growth in Rugby league in the Pacific Islands with one year Tonga defeating the big 3 and Samoa making the World Cup final. The NRL now is nearly 50% islander, which is fantastic for the sport internationally.

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bux5367 Did you notice the empty stadiums at the cricket world cup in the west Indies? I still wouldn't say cricket is dead because of poor attendances at that world cup

  • @TheCaptain001
    @TheCaptain001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, because Australian Union sucks.

  • @MrMartena56
    @MrMartena56 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great little segment lads

  • @kayleesimmers
    @kayleesimmers ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think it'll be the same as before.

  • @laurens4561
    @laurens4561 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:24 Why does he randomly say its an irrelevant sport in Melbourne?

    • @Sammy25100
      @Sammy25100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      9 AFL teams, the Melbourne Storm, F1, Australian Open.....table tennis- probably......super rugby. It's just such a crowded city for sport.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Victoria as a whole is AFL First! Go to Melbourne anytime between March-September and the first thing that shows up in sports news is AFL (and it will have over half the sports coverage time easily)! 😂😂😂

    • @exeterjedi6730
      @exeterjedi6730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They had a premonition about Rebels folding.

  • @MrWillt100
    @MrWillt100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worst thing Aussie did was to get rid of Dave Rennie and employ a mercenary called Eddie Jones. You had a great opportunity when Dave was in charge to get your country back on the right track but the great Eddie Jones screwed you Aussie and boy oh boy didn't he screw you and then he was gone hee hee hee.

  • @expressoevangelism80
    @expressoevangelism80 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With so much confusion within the game of rugby, it doesn’t help itself.
    Looking back onto some of your World stars it was very inspiring to watch you from the U.K., with some sort of jealously, but with such a small pool to select from from your home blood base, it is difficult to imagine as to how you can compete on such a wide selection of sports to choose from within your small population.
    As for your unfortunate connection with that full on Nearly Made It Man, (Eddie Jones), we can both understand what comes from that. He has his own character problems, which just seems to get publicly rinsed out in the rugby union front widow.
    You guys didn’t help yourselves when you let the Woke blokes in to get rid of Israel Falell (can’t spell the sir name). He was a world star, and he got cast out because he dared to voice an opinion in line with the Bible!
    Funny how it all went down hill from there⁉️
    The Lions tour may well be the last, if things don’t change. It must hurt when you look back to the last time you beat England at rugby. It was a long time ago.
    I’d like to see something good happen, but as you say, there is very little internal will over there in Oz. All the best.

  • @InnocentAnglerfish-pr9cl
    @InnocentAnglerfish-pr9cl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The game is an eye sore. Too many players on the field. Stop, start.
    Who wants to watch scrums, lineouts, and mauls Boring. Northern hemisphere teams killed the game by playing too many forwards with mauls.

  • @RockyB334
    @RockyB334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s always darkest before the dawn

    • @Br0wnCh3
      @Br0wnCh3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The question is when is the dawn for Rugby Union in Australia... No sign of it ahead right now...

  • @Objectiveansthensome
    @Objectiveansthensome 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's face it! AFL and League have too few amateur players actually playing the game and WAY WAY too many professional player spots ...
    SO the quality of the sport is NONSENSE.. but they are good local traditions .& well marketed ..The A-league is by far our highest quality of sport on the numbers, as Soccer has the most participants & the Lowest number of professional playing spots to fight for ...
    Union should cut to 2 teams so it can differentiate its product .. by being of a higher quality like this

  • @jabra-td5zm
    @jabra-td5zm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ooh for MELBOURNE REBELS this week doesnt seem like its going well with every game being there this week losing 30-3 in 1st round
    it should b advantage australian teams being in australia in melbourne this week
    rebels a doing it tough
    more known for afl as alot didnt know bout melbourne storm in buea ryan inviews of the towns of random people
    level has dropped tho would have never guessed they already won 2 world cups already
    recent form missing out on qualifying stages is the worse
    thy playing more like tier 2 team nowdays
    anyways i wana bet in 2-3 weeks time
    but i will take some rugby for 15+ margins at halftimes $3-$7
    *chefs vs crusaders halftime score 27-10 17+ point lead at hafltime
    *hurricanes vs western force hafltime score 22-0 22 point lead at halftime
    odds usually $3-$8 for 15+ lead halftime margin single odds
    always have 2 game parlay
    i might look at in 2-3 weeks for comps like top14,gallagher,united,usa,japanese comps with super rugby but brumbies & reds a ur only hope for australian teams to challenge nz teams
    it does well in other sports tho watched some tennis at times there were few that made it to quarter final & semi stages in last weeks tournement
    but cricket & swimmers & such
    but rugby on odd occassion is ok to bet on it i rarely do nowdays in 2024 looking to at halftime for everything or 2025 most definitly im still new tryin b as organized as possible & discplined not to bet so much a year or sometimes missing 1-3 years of gambling once i win enough im take 1-3 years off from gambling put into other parts of self to make more money either then gambling i am busy building other parts of me
    but definitly rugby in australia is better with there own comp having comps between 3 best sides who won most world cups is silly u will never c that for any tournement in sports is australia 2 world cups nz 3 world cups south africa 4 world cups having super rugby for so long before leaving to united rugby i think nz & australia should part ways for growth of australia its a crazy tournment still if they were part of europe australian teams i know they would win afew comps like SOUTH AFRICA first year in united rugby 18-14 winners in grand final stormers & 2023 15-14 lose in grand final against munster but its the level u play its the HARDEST TROPHY is SUPER RUGBY TROPHEY hardest to win look at south african teams in united rugby & how many titles nz have won in super rugby south africa struggle to win.... i wouldnt b shamed with results as tones in europe would b in similar shape against nz teams

  • @kylewillis6810
    @kylewillis6810 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These guys dont Understand what they are talking about

  • @jabra-td5zm
    @jabra-td5zm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    super rugby teams get pumped nearly every year against nz teams
    last night HURRICANES smashed FORCE
    i think such losers to nz rivals have made it less popular there was a RECORD SET BY NZ SUPER RUGBY TEAMS of 35 wins against australian conference even nz bottom teams kept beating 1st place australian conference teams
    i would love to c australia competive again in rugby
    & also would love to c ALTERNATING LINES & POINTS in RUGBY FOR PUNTING
    theres no 1-12 & 13+ also its now 1-7, 8-14 ,15+ the margins divided into 3 now
    i would like to think id b 1 of the best if there were such options available like ALTERNING LINES & POINTS
    if there was HALFTIME points CHEIFS raised from 13points upto 22points for first half they were up 27-10 in first half the cheifs there main weapon at 10 came off injuryed & to many penalities in 2nd half but odds is roughly $4.10 if raising points
    but HURRICANES the similar thing i think it was 14 the points they scored 22points in 1st half
    i like points alternating more then the line but sometimes of course i thought 1st round of 6 nations where IRELAND vs FRANCE away was a good underdog as france were missing 2 gun players in 9 & 10 but IRELAND as $2.80 underdogs woulda LINE ALTERNATED for line -7 is roughly $5.70
    ireland won 38-17 as $2.80 underdogs but i like alot of EUROPEAN COMPS gallagher rugby comp, top14 comp , united comp, japanese comp,curry cup , international & super rugby id b great looking at different teams
    unlucky for rugby it doesnt have that option
    i woulda always hit $7-$14 parlays of 2 games per slip consistently
    $700 bet in future for $14 odds = $9800 return
    id do 3-6 parlays per week for rugby if it had such options
    but am learning other sports like TENNIS just tracking it so far before i bet on it next tournement im put some money on it with enough knowledge
    rugby & nrl a up also im looking forward to it
    but yeah nz domanice has rugby in australia on down hill trend & also international game suffering
    hope it gets back to some competive form before lions tour i think they win 3-0 with level its at
    hope its competive for next world cup is here in australia also

  • @commentarytalk1446
    @commentarytalk1446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Losing South Africa 100% GUTTED Super Rugby even with the welcome introduction of Fiji and Pacific Island team.
    It used to be pre-2014 a great comp but it's garbage now with a few good match-ups none of which Aus teams.
    I remember learning decades ago Union was 4th sport in Aus after Cricket, League, Aussie Rules and probably now Football/Soccer also relegating it.
    Throw in the problems of Union as a game code eg penalties and referee intervention eg cards and kicking tennis, it's an inferior form of League now compared to being a brilliant game back in Campese/Lynagh days where you had a distinct Forwards doing their thing and Backs doing their thing, now it's 15 gym-bunnies across the pitch and no "back 10m" with the stupid Jackalling rules on the ground killing the gain line and attacking with ball in hand...
    Now compare to NRL: It's gone from strength to strength and is brilliant week-in-week out.
    In all honesty, better to just put all the rugby talent behind League and it's better training for the juniors too. Then grow League around Pacific eg NZ, Pacific, Papua New Guinea.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The current Rugby Union rivalry is NZ vs ZA! Anything can happen on game day when these two titans clash!

    • @commentarytalk1446
      @commentarytalk1446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrconfusion87 I agree, still a Titanic Clash For The Ages, between those two. Rugby Union at it's best is hard to beat but it's too rarely the case.

    • @granitesoldier7704
      @granitesoldier7704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would love to see the Wallabies make a comeback though. The only truly global sport they could potentially dominate once they sort their issues out.