I bought a Zen drilled pin down in late April as I’m also slower with less rev rate and bowl on house lanes that are medium oil at best and dryer the rest. It still has the nice reaction into the pocket and hits hard. Love, love, love the Zen.
Loved having the second person to throw! I have a zen and didn’t like it at first but am starting to love it more every week. Might take it to my pro shop for a resurface as I got mine in 2021
I just traded my zen master for a zen and reality. My monday night league, I ended up bowling a 759 scratch series using only the zen. Didn't have to move too much through the whole night. Zen ball good indeed
I got a Zen for bday and had it made to not hook as much but still enough and was perfect for me 😊 upped my average by 20 or more points I play for special Olympics
I've never felt good throwing shiny bowling balls on the fresh. Feels like I have to be perfect, and then any transition is magnified. Zen aging like a fine wine.
I just picked up a lightly used (less than 3 games) Proton Physix three weeks ago and am really liking it despite only having about 7 games on it. As long as I hit my target, that ball hits like a Mack truck! The odd thing is I have found it to have quite a bit less backend than the Nuclear Cell, despite having 80+ games on it. Definitely feel like I have a great 1-2 punch in the Proton and Nuke right now. IQ Emerald is right after the Nuke.
I love seeing a comparison of the newest, latest, and greatest balls compared to the ones that have been out for awhile already, and I'm talking about those now legendary staple balls that are in almost everyone's bag (or SHOULD be) like the Zen and the Phaze 2. I've bought a handful of balls since I first bought my Zen a few years ago, but there never has been any question about what the first ball I'm gonna go for is going to be. For me, it's the Zen, and then everything else.
Bought a Phaze V for a friend of mine, he had a 300 with it within the first 10 games. Few weeks later, my Zen which has 150 games easily on it, I roll a new high game and series with it. I think these two balls are pretty safe bets for most bowlers.
Luis..Looking for a new ball.. I have a Brunswick Rhino..15lbs R.H..182 Average..14mph.. bowling only 3 years I bowl on 25-28..and..over 3rd arrow..ball always hits the pocket and only league ths..barely any oil. but at my release I angle my body towards 3rd arrow..not sure know if i should.looking towards a Zen, Phaze 2 or the Xponent..but because my Brunswick Rhino has diff of low 30's would balls i mentioned be to aggressive with hook because of higher diff then Rhino. thinking to go with pin up to lower the diff(hook)..thing i dont get ..yet is layout..wen you or others say for example 30×4×30 ..I know higher the pin its lowers the diff..need help on layout..snd was thinking going with a 14lbs for new ball .. Thanks ..knowledge and videos are helpful and well explained. thanks
We bowl on THS, Brunswick Anvilane (might be Pro) in a couple men's senior leagues. Alot of the good bowlers averages are down 20 pins this year everybody else down some. I averaged 220 last year and am 67. What is happening is the lanes are breaking down very quickly and getting extremely wet dry. This is worse when you are bowling with players that are using urethane and they carry the oil down lane. Usually all is good until middle of first game then they start to transition quickly and they transition the rest of the set. I have no idea what my revs are but I turn the ball alot with 15.5 mph speed. I need a ball that blends out the wet dry and am considering a Zen. Given this information what would you recommend as a ball choice and drilling layout?
Low rg hooks earlier and higher rg hooks later it's that simple. The only thing you have to remember is surface also change length. The rule is the more surface the earlier hook it also takes back end snap away and makes it more rounded. Shiny balls skid delaying hook and making a sharp motion in the back part of the lane. Hope this helps.
If Chris didn't loft the ball so far I think the phaze would have had a much better reaction. It just didn't seem like it had any time to develop into a roll.
very nice video so the Zen and Hyped solid are beginner level balls? Im trying to get a good starting ball cause i dont know how to hook yet and really want a easy learning ball. I am thinking of getting 1 of the Tropical surge balls bowlersmart says the finish is 1500 polished how is that possible when storm switched to reacta gloss?
Hi Luis, I would like to get your opinion on something. I currently have a RST X3 as first ball out of the bag for league and it’s working alright. For a step down from RST X3, which do you think will be better? lower RG sym Hybrid / Pearl (eg : Zen Soul, Zen) or higher RG sym pearl (eg: Wolverine DM).
Just got back into bowling after a 10 year hiatus…bowling balls got stolen and life happens. Purchased a phase II for my benchmark and a Zen for the step down. Hoping they’re a good combo.
Personally, going to get a lot of hate for it. But Zen ball is highly overrated. Hated mine, and have even had people tell me that I'd like a soul best because I'm a fan of hybrids over any other cover stock
A friend of mine and I both had zens drilled them twice for each of us up and down. We ended up basically giving them away because they weren't filling any niche for us. I don't begrudge people liking their zen... but I don't think it is for literally everyone. No ball is
Hey Luis quick question. Most of my bowling balls are losing reaction. I have a proton physics and a phase 2. The proton hooks very little and I sanded it down to 1000 and it hook a tiny bit but not as all as it has before. The phase hooks just slightly as it’s a little bit newer but it’s also losing reaction. Do you have any tips for for making a bowling ball last longer?
I bought a Zen drilled pin down in late April as I’m also slower with less rev rate and bowl on house lanes that are medium oil at best and dryer the rest. It still has the nice reaction into the pocket and hits hard. Love, love, love the Zen.
It’s a great ball!
Its still a awesome ball
I watch a lot of bowlers from vlogs to instructional videos but when it comes down to being on the lanes with some commentary, you’re the best
Thanks so much for that Simon!
I’ve been waiting for this video.. it will help me decide which one to buy! Love your videos!
I hope you continue to love them!!
Loved having the second person to throw! I have a zen and didn’t like it at first but am starting to love it more every week. Might take it to my pro shop for a resurface as I got mine in 2021
Do it!!!
I just traded my zen master for a zen and reality. My monday night league, I ended up bowling a 759 scratch series using only the zen. Didn't have to move too much through the whole night. Zen ball good indeed
Nice!!!
Looking forward to this vid, might decide my next ball. Love my soul (have some surface on it) need the 1-2 punch...
I hope you love this video then!!
Nice video love the Zen have two have the Phase 4 getting my Phase 5 tomorrow drilling it between those two. 😊
Nice 👍
I got a Zen for bday and had it made to not hook as much but still enough and was perfect for me 😊 upped my average by 20 or more points I play for special Olympics
Nice! Keep bowling 🎳 it is a great sport for everyone 👍
Nice Tim!!!! Keep that average growing!!!!
I've never felt good throwing shiny bowling balls on the fresh. Feels like I have to be perfect, and then any transition is magnified. Zen aging like a fine wine.
Super fine wine!
I just picked up a lightly used (less than 3 games) Proton Physix three weeks ago and am really liking it despite only having about 7 games on it. As long as I hit my target, that ball hits like a Mack truck! The odd thing is I have found it to have quite a bit less backend than the Nuclear Cell, despite having 80+ games on it. Definitely feel like I have a great 1-2 punch in the Proton and Nuke right now. IQ Emerald is right after the Nuke.
Ball is a beast!
I bought a Zen as a treat for myself as an early birthday gift. Easily elevated my game and went up 20pins
It's so good!
I love seeing a comparison of the newest, latest, and greatest balls compared to the ones that have been out for awhile already, and I'm talking about those now legendary staple balls that are in almost everyone's bag (or SHOULD be) like the Zen and the Phaze 2. I've bought a handful of balls since I first bought my Zen a few years ago, but there never has been any question about what the first ball I'm gonna go for is going to be. For me, it's the Zen, and then everything else.
I always wanna compare the new stuff to the GOAT balls
ZEN Ball will be in the league bag tonight!
Heck yea!!!
EVERYONE NEEDS A ZEN. ITS JUST GOOD
Facts!!
planning to buy a zen drilled pin down, amazing ball
Facts!
I currently have a OG hyroad would you recommend one of these as an upgrade? I really need to build an arsenal.
Nope! Way to different balls
I’m getting a Zen for Christmas I can’t wait to throw it
That’s a GREAT gift!! I hope you love it!
Bought a Phaze V for a friend of mine, he had a 300 with it within the first 10 games. Few weeks later, my Zen which has 150 games easily on it, I roll a new high game and series with it. I think these two balls are pretty safe bets for most bowlers.
GOOD STUFF!
Luis..Looking for a new ball..
I have a Brunswick Rhino..15lbs
R.H..182 Average..14mph.. bowling only 3 years
I bowl on 25-28..and..over 3rd arrow..ball always hits the pocket and only league ths..barely any oil.
but at my release I angle my body towards 3rd arrow..not sure know if i should.looking towards a Zen, Phaze 2 or the Xponent..but because my Brunswick Rhino has diff of low 30's would balls i mentioned be to aggressive with hook because of higher diff then Rhino. thinking to go with pin up to lower the diff(hook)..thing i dont get ..yet is layout..wen you or others say for example 30×4×30 ..I know higher the pin its lowers the diff..need help on layout..snd was thinking going with a 14lbs for new ball ..
Thanks ..knowledge and videos are helpful and well explained. thanks
I would say the Xponent!
Zen ball good ☯️
FACTS!!!
I love my Zen .. I have a Zen Master too, love it as well.
zen ball good!
We bowl on THS, Brunswick Anvilane (might be Pro) in a couple men's senior leagues. Alot of the good bowlers averages are down 20 pins this year everybody else down some. I averaged 220 last year and am 67. What is happening is the lanes are breaking down very quickly and getting extremely wet dry. This is worse when you are bowling with players that are using urethane and they carry the oil down lane. Usually all is good until middle of first game then they start to transition quickly and they transition the rest of the set. I have no idea what my revs are but I turn the ball alot with 15.5 mph speed. I need a ball that blends out the wet dry and am considering a Zen. Given this information what would you recommend as a ball choice and drilling layout?
Layout will matter very little. Stonger cover balls is what you’ll need
Love my zen that i’ve had great ball imo love all the 900 global/ storm stuff that has recently come out
zen ball good!
How do you determine what Rg is best suited for a player?
Low rg hooks earlier and higher rg hooks later it's that simple. The only thing you have to remember is surface also change length. The rule is the more surface the earlier hook it also takes back end snap away and makes it more rounded. Shiny balls skid delaying hook and making a sharp motion in the back part of the lane. Hope this helps.
Trial and error unfortunately
If Chris didn't loft the ball so far I think the phaze would have had a much better reaction. It just didn't seem like it had any time to develop into a roll.
That could be very true but the reason I loft the ball, besides knee issues, is so that my reaction will be later.
He has other balls that react just fine with his game though so all good
Lou, I don't need a Zen, I need a ZEN U!
When, when, when will you demo it???
SOON!!!! I can’t wait for it!
very nice video so the Zen and Hyped solid are beginner level balls? Im trying to get a good starting ball cause i dont know how to hook yet and really want a easy learning ball. I am thinking of getting 1 of the Tropical surge balls bowlersmart says the finish is 1500 polished how is that possible when storm switched to reacta gloss?
Start with like a hustle
@@LuisNapoles Hustle USA has been a fantastic ball in my lineup.
Zen ball still gooood!!!
Facts!!!
SPI has a ton of symmetric balls in the lineup right now around the 2.48 RG and 0.05 diff.
And they all good lol insane
I’m expecting big things from the fate!
Hi Luis, I would like to get your opinion on something. I currently have a RST X3 as first ball out of the bag for league and it’s working alright.
For a step down from RST X3, which do you think will be better?
lower RG sym Hybrid / Pearl (eg : Zen Soul, Zen) or higher RG sym pearl (eg: Wolverine DM).
zen for sure
The Zen is the perfect ball down from a phaze ii.
I can agree
Just got back into bowling after a 10 year hiatus…bowling balls got stolen and life happens. Purchased a phase II for my benchmark and a Zen for the step down. Hoping they’re a good combo.
A good 1-2 punch with a marvel s, hyroad x , IQ tour solid and phaze 2
Fact!
Just bowled a 299 with the zen last night!
Get them next time!
This just proves the zen is alot better of a ball!!
Zen is a GOAT
Luis, I really want a Rst x2 vs Phaze 5 video. Maybe demonstrate the difference of asymmetrical and symmetrical on 2 clean and angular pieces?? Please
I can prob work that in
Rstx2 is one of my favorites so I want to see this one too
Personally, I can’t wait to see the differences between the Pitch Black and the Zen U…
I’m so excited for that!
@@LuisNapoles The Zen U LOOKS so awesome....
Personally, going to get a lot of hate for it. But Zen ball is highly overrated. Hated mine, and have even had people tell me that I'd like a soul best because I'm a fan of hybrids over any other cover stock
A friend of mine and I both had zens drilled them twice for each of us up and down. We ended up basically giving them away because they weren't filling any niche for us. I don't begrudge people liking their zen... but I don't think it is for literally everyone. No ball is
No hate at all. I have had a number of balls that people love that I can't stand. It's all about your game.
That’s all a matter of opinion! No hate!
I will continue to watch your videos if you stop shaving
Beard is coming back!
Hey Luis quick question. Most of my bowling balls are losing reaction. I have a proton physics and a phase 2. The proton hooks very little and I sanded it down to 1000 and it hook a tiny bit but not as all as it has before. The phase hooks just slightly as it’s a little bit newer but it’s also losing reaction. Do you have any tips for for making a bowling ball last longer?
Are you regularly cleaning the balls??
Chris should get a zen??? 😉😉😉
1000000000% should
Yes he should, I agree!
Last time I'm watching because you tell me don't watch your video have a good day
K bye
When you tell me my videos are terrible
I was joking around with you and having fun with you
"Zen ball good"
Truer words have never been spoken
@@LuisNapoles 😂😎🤘
no thanks, sticking with my trusty Phaze
Hey nothing wrong with that!!
Nvm... I wanna try a zen now
#ZenBallGood
facts !