The Whinder Binder International 671 Detroit Diesel No Ether Cold Start Sunday
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- 1967 International Harvester CO 4000 D 671N Detroit Diesel The little bit colder start. Beautiful CHILLY day NC USA.. Just enough time to move it around and mount up the rear Dayton hoops. Obvious no fuel and no sniff of bad juju Ether Starting Fluid. Took a little cranking to get the fuel flowing and... away we go.. Detroit Go ! All the way !
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Do you know where this truck came from? My dad drove one very similar back in the 70's for Flowers Baking Company, now Flowers Foods, out of Thomasville Georgia. Identical color.
Actually yes I do.. Truck was built January 1967, in Ft Wayne Indiana, Sold through Earnhardt Truck Sales Salisbury NC and purchased by "Bamby Bakers" of Salisbury NC. and was used locally. It remained in their possession until the company was bought out along with several local NC bakeries and all were absorbed by Flowers Bakeries. Truck was sold in 78/79 to a local Salisbury NC family wrecking service but was never converted and applied to its fleet of wreckers. I purchased it from them and was informed from them It literally was moved around very little since 1979 until I purchased it in 2018. The paperwork found inside the cab supports the claims. I have since acquired its build sheet from IH and have confirmed ALL component serial numbers and its optional equipment are original.. Right down the the vertical stack. Color seems to be original as hard to reach places under cab and behind panels are blue. The bumper may have been blue and the wheels may have been yellow...but.. that's not a definite Hope that's not too much information..hahhaha
@@VOLKSWAGNUT absolutely not too much info. Same color and similar truck my dad used to drive down here. Thanks for sharing your information.
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I bet Byron would Really Appreciate you taking him for a little cruise....
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OHHH that sound...Damn MUSIC.... love the old 2 strokes. Dad had Macks... had Cummins.. had a couple of Detroits. Both Macks he owned cought fire.... Cummins broke head bolts and blew head gaskets....He loved Cummins..BUT he did say...Push the stop down.. turn key on.... and hit the button Detroits ALWAYS made him money and were dependable..LOUD...but dependable. My Senior year in High School our local(Holland Mi) diesel shop went to the vocational center and asked for a promising student to go on Co-OP. I rebuilt several Detroits and LOTS and LOTS of cylinder heads. Superchargers and ran overheads on more than i can remember. Dynoing a newly rebuilt engine was the best part... Warm it up then crack the whip to it! LOVED it...Now i build farm machinery. Miss the diesel days.
Great story, a lot of kids, including farm kids thought that diesel was spelled,"D E T R O I T",. They learned how to rebuild them at a young age before diesels were all electronic and we're all mechanical.
Very very common truck and engine. But, almost all have been scrapped. Nice to hear and see both.
So then they are not common...
@@5crassrocker Exactly! His comment didn't make sense?!
@@5crassrocker there all gone now they went valued much back then so many went to junkyards
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I think what he meant was in those days, they were common, not today though.
Still this truck is a piece of history. A lot of new drivers would have a difficult time trying to drive that truck. I have driven a few just like it myself. ........gee it makes me feel old
What a cool sound...and has a clacker on the stack. You have something there...a cab over and single axle! Yeah! 😍 Keep it a coming!
I love that truck, it's got a lot of character. Deserves a restoration!
Thanks for watching.. Blahh.. Restoration .. I don't like that term.. BUT.. it will be resurrected and reconditioned to a much better state. Mainly clean it up.. paint and make operable. Entertaining flat bed or flat dump bed. Have two nice longer aluminum tanks for it.. and WILL NOT polish them either. . . stay tuned.. . Its been too wet and rainy in NC to do much. I have not moved it since November 2018..
@@VOLKSWAGNUT AMEN to the rain. A-ville broke their standing 100 inch record and we got a site more than they did. You ought to be getting the sun today. We are!
Level 5 I couldn't of said it better if I said it myself yes please restore this classic truck
Throw a new set of tires on her and call it done. Looks great as-is 😁.
@@VOLKSWAGNUT keeping some good patina on the old girl I see?
That’s a cool truck. Big fan of internationals and a big fan of Detroit diesels
Looks like it belongs on maximum overdrive
Ha ha! Sure does!
There were 2 CO 4000 series in Maximum Overdrive .. ;)
My thought exactly.
DEVMAR 3815 lol
they were mainly suppose to be the trucks that went into cities do to the tighter turning radous that they have a lot of truckers used them over the road. they lost there popularity because it is a little more indepth on working on them
Wow...my dad started out in a old truck like this ...but it was red gosh the memories...thanks for showing it worth restoration...
Those old International cab-overs remind me of my youth in the mid 70's when I was really interested in trucks. I thought I would be a truck driver. Remember the whole trucking and CB radio craze? Good times.
Learned long ago to soak an old tee shirt or shop towel in a bit of gas and drape it over the intake hat to get the fires lit, super cold days we used to drain the engine oil at the end of the day to take with us so we had warm oil in it the next morning to aid starting, also when cold starting a mechanical pump diesel it helps to hold the pump wide open until the engine hits(not rev the piss out out of it!). I'm certain some of you older guys from the snow belt did similar things back when batteries and starters were marginal a month after they were new.
Legitimate cold start. Nice to see it fire up. Not multiple cranks like I see on other videos. Cool truck
Love the old iron..thanks for this.
Wow that’s a blast from my past. In the early 80’s, I had a 1966 Transtar CO4000. 6-71 with a 10spd. One time the governor spring broke and it ran wide open in my driveway for a few minutes until I was able to get it shut down. It didn’t hurt that screamin’ 238 one bit. Last I heard it ended up in Texas somewhere after I sold it in 1985. Good Day to You!
Beautiful truck. Love those short cabovers. Great sound, I can smell the diesel from my pc :)
Those old 2 strokes were a blast to drive! I miss them.
No computer, praise GOD!
Get some SCR, Regen, & Def on there so folks can breathe.
My cat 3406b has no computer either or my cummins big cam 300 1985 cat is 1991 btw
Mmmmm👍🏽😈 time to shop for the Banks power-pack, fuel injection performance kit, K&N force-feed air kit and twin HP turbo’s!
Detroit power to mow down zombies
no computer he says while commenting on his computer
FRom one Tarheel to another, when a GM/Detroit starts smoking, they'll start. Fine old corn popper!
I remember when you seen these trucks every where! My favorite trucks are cabovers, freightliner , GMC, international, in that order!
Nice!! Glad you’re fixing it up
Dang that's cool! I'd be happy driving it how it is!
Heh! Sweet Baby! :) love how it growling like a walrus haha cute truck indeed! classic of 70's U.S Industry
Greetings from Currituck County NC!!
Love your truck! Keep up the great work!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video ; I cam remember those IH big time
Great yard ornament. ! I want one like it.
love the rack rollin' sound!
Brings back memories of my brothers truck. An international co 4020 with a sleeper. Don't know what engine it had. He bought it brand new in the early 70's. it was baby blue and I think he paid like $32,000 for it. I even had a model kit of the same truck that I put together.
$32K was a fortune back then! You probably could have bought five new Cadillacs for that amount in the early 70s.
Buddy, that’s a seriously cool old truck. What an oddity. It would be a great time taking it to truck shows with grandkids and winding out on the Interstate. I can’t wait to see what you do with this. I wish I owned it!
Thanks,, .. lots more to come.. stay tuned.
Good looking truck and sounds great.
Reminds me of my childhood. My father loved his Corn Binder with a 318 Jimmy and a 4 and a 5. I really miss that sound. I had a 1970 Honda CB750 with baffles removed from the stock pipes, and it sounded almost like Jimmy. 😋😄🤣😎
I have a 1975 ..750 Four... original exhaust ..I agree.. they do sound similar.
My favorite antique truck. Day cab COE single axle.
Love these trucks , My friends father had two of them
She a runner sounds good and hope to see a video of you going gears
Thanks... that surely will happen in time..
Love my 4-53T, but still love the sound of a 6-71. Great lookin' IHC COE!
Awesome thanks for everything
Love it! Cool interwhopper
Love that Detroit sound!
Nothing sounds better than a Detroit.
No ether Sunday LMAO, great ol rig bud!
Awesome! You see a lot of 4070 A's & B's as well as Emeryvilles at shows, but this is the only CO 4000 that I've seen still running, and it's got a Detroit 6-71 to boot!
Agreed.. kinda the red headed step child of the Binder world hahaha
WHAT A CLASSIC TRUCK. IT SOUNDS TUFF. GIVE IT A RESTORATION 👍
Love this truck!!
My friends father had two of these, He hauled for wonder bread and the other did pallets, Nice trucks still on the road today
Hmmm.. This truck was purchased new by Bamby Bakers from Salisbury NC and from the records was in full functioning service with them until the mid 70's. Bamby Bakers was bought by Flowers Foods and the Bamby line was dropped for others. I purchased this truck from a Salisbury NC individual who bought from Bamby to convert to a short haul wrecker .. but it never made that transition. Great lil truck.. with some history.
You ain’t gonna hurt that starter... I’ve cranked em’ for 1 minute plus up here in Ohio. You’ll be surprised how much they’ll take.
That thing is a beast😃👍.!
What a fine ole girl!!! Love it!!!!
I need this truck in my life! !!
Years ago, I worked at a milk processing plant in NJ and they had a fleet of Mack trucks of the same vintage. When it got cold they would park them for the day and let them idle all night or day rather then shut them off so as to avoid cold start issues. They probably did the same with this ol gal back in her working days.
I did a pull start on an International with a 350 Cummins back in 83, it was 12 degrees took about 300 feet to start, the engine was running 1500 RPM. It had a lot of white smoke at first, then some black just before it started.
Why do I want this thing so bad
Hahaha.. When we opened the time capsule shed/barn In August.. looking through the dust and spider webs .. I spotted the smile on my Pops face.. I knew it was coming home with us.. It has great potential.
Would make a great Trailer House mover.
Que legal. E olha, sempre gostei de caminhões antigos como este. Ainda mais para salvá-los e restaura los. Agora, sempre me perguntei como cabia um motorista nestas cabines minúsculas !!!
Santo Deus.... como eram pequenas e sem conforto!
Love the smell of that Diesel.
Sweet 👍
Growing up in the upper Midwest you learn pretty quick how to start these engines without ether. The jimmy that we have with a 671 in it always starts as long as it has a good battery in it. You add oil and check fuel every morning on that truck.
Great Video Luved it
Love them old Yamahas!
thats a beautiful truck reminds me of my 1972 dodge C series
Video had me all tensed up thinking in my head come on baby come on
Nothing like the Sound of a Detroit up on RPM....I worked in a Municipality few years back...We had two Front end Loaders...one Detroit powered...the other had a Air Cooled Diesel.....After an Argument between mechanic buddies...on which was stronger....
We decided to settle it with a "Push O War"....Bucket to Bucket...the War began....My little 4 cyl Detroit....pushed that 6 cyl Air cooled Diesel....Clean Across the lot....LoL...Ill never forget how that Detroit was Screaming...lol
Frankie Ford.... I would venture to guess that the "air-cooled" engine was a Deutz (FL6?) and your Detroit was a 4-71? Was your loader a Terex? Which model? What brand of loader had the Air cooled engine (Deutz?)?
The Deutz engines, like most all European diesels are of an "Oversquare" design (bore is greater than the stroke).... and therefore lack the internal inertia to sustain the torque that is produced, compared to an engine that may produce the exact same amount of hp and torque, but has a longer stroke, and as you increase stroke length, you increase Piston Speed per rpm, creating more internal inertia (lugging power), coupled with a heavier reciprocating assembly all adds up to torque sustainability.
The Deutz Air cooled engine that I "think" your referring to, also has a lighter piston and rod assembly compared to a series 71 Detroit, especially so, if the 71 has an earlier trunk style piston..... and also, what was the overall weight difference between the two loaders?
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Your Absolutely Correct.!..it was a "Deutz"....Those 2 loaders were in the Same Category as far as Size and bucket capasity....You may even have the brand correct....I Just wanted to prove a point to a fellow Mechanic....Never Count out a 2 Stroke Detroit....With 2 power Strokes...compared with the Deutz 4 stroke ....Once the little 4-71 was up on RPM....The Deutz had Nothing for the Detroit....If we were caught....we would have been up a creek....lol Boys will b Boys.....
Whatever happened to old Kool rigs like this!? Scene from a bygone era man. Back in the days where you men that actually drive a fricken truck professionally!!
Sweet old rig finally stumble on a cold start and idle not revved to the moon after starting it up
Those things were made to go to full throttle from dead cold. No problem
That is incredibly good shape
Yes I think so too. It was like opening a time capsule. Very low mileage and hours sealed the deal for me.
@@VOLKSWAGNUT Nice find. You don't usually see many slab cabs of any make surviving. That would definitely make a nice toy for the summer and spring truck shows.
Beautiful truck.
Beautiful truck
nothing better than seeing an Mean green and beasty international startup!
Easiest alternator and air compressor change EVER
I drove one shuttling potatoes in central California. 2003-2010.. no ac. Cummings. Bet that Detroit is way more fun to drive
Beauty! That's one Platina International! Keep it that way!! I love the look of this one... You can see the age of the beast... It tells a story i always say... New Paint... Happens in a couple of days (perhaps a week) Platina takes many years to create. All i would do is give remove some of the 'deep rust' and 'restore that' and after that 3 clear coats of paint... And yes id restore the Chrome parts... That way it really shows off. (But that's what i would do to it :) )
Love the sound of the 6/71 engine!
Not sure of the cab paint fate yet and I'm not a new shiny paint fan myself. Id like to thin down the primer off the doors to maybe find the original markings first. It was a bread delivery truck from Salisbury NC. Paint the chassis, engine and trans for sure. Cab all depends on whats found on the doors. Not much chrome on it.. I do have aluminum tanks for it.. not polished.
@@VOLKSWAGNUT A Platina truck it will be 'Working Class'
@@AllianceB95 Im sure you mean Patina'd ??
@@VOLKSWAGNUT Yup
I have always loved the day cab versions
It's growing on me.. haha
Ha Ha Lol. But those cabs are skinny. The daycab versions I like the best of these are the ones with the short frame. Like the one you have. I know there was a trucking company in the 70s called O.N.C, and they ran trucks like the ones I'm talking about.
@@1965Gindy Yeah.. it's only 15 feet bumper to frame tail. The short wheel base with Detroit Diesel power.. make me feel its an odd old truck for sure. The 65-68 4000's use the older narrower DCO Emeryville frame. It changed in 68/69 with the 4070A from my findings.
VOLKSWAGNUT do you know what the a stands for.
@@1965Gindy I do not..
Cold start.lmao heard that a million times. Always gets old.
Super saaaweeeet international 4000, would like to hear you drive it down the road.
In time.. stay tuned
sounds great, sweet !
Nice old Farmall truck glad it’s still going
Maybe chalk it up to changing fuel filter yesterday? Maybe a little air in the system?
No.. the fuel filters were changed the day after purchase... it was the engine stop cable binding keeping the injectors in the no fuel stop postilion.
A look inside the cab would have been great!
Check out the straight stack test fit video for some interior shots.
Love me some old DETROIT cold start cold buffer screw idle!!!!!
Talk about a puney exaust pipe. I used to drive for Viking Freight System back in the day and we had a bunch of those goofy looking cabovers, they had a horrible ride, couldn't see straight while driving down the road cause you were bouncing all over the cab.🤣👍
Love it!! 🤘
Sweet ye'll gotta love them Jimmy's lol
Kalvin Labuik were is the jimmy?
beautiful sound, an American true sound, crackheads in California killed this machines.
I think your mommy placed you near diesel exhaust as a baby.. your brain's deformed.
@@zealandboutin2494 Diesel is nothing compared to gasoline contamination, but those crook Democrats politicians had to get more money in their pockets and went after diesels, all diesel engines needed was just a simple catalytic converter to be more clean that wa it, just a simple filter with a sensor in the dashboard, but no they had to fuck up good American engines.
@@roberey6821 And you think Trump is doing a great job also. And that UFOs are real.
@@mackowen9337 Glad to see that not only are you stupid, but a racist as well. People like you are the problem with this country.
I know its boringng with out that sound..
Neat little farm bucket....
Runs smooth
I Don’t own a Truck but i’d Love an old cabover with a Detroit diesel...i know i’m late to the show..but keep em’ truckin’ ya’ll! Cheers 🍻 from Louisiana!
I drove one of those old pancake trucks local for a few months in 1983 rough riding trucks
I bet they were! I remember them set up with wood chip vans back in the day. What an oddity of a truck but it would be fun to go to truck meets with the kids in.
Yes, and they weren't any better as the years progressed. I drove an 88 Inty cabover single axle slab cab back in the early 90s. Pulled doubles and unless you had a heavy load, it was one rough riding son of a gun.
Me to from 2003-2010 shuttling only
Then I switched runs to OTR and ran a 88 Frieghtshaker single axle with standard sleeper from NJ to Jacksonville to Harrisburg PA to NJ and over.
@@kman-mi7su I remember as a kid riding in moms cadillac & used to see those COE's bouncing around going down the road. The bouncing was very PRONOUNCED looking out from a cadillac. Boing, Boing, BOING-BOING. Bong.
Those 2 cycle detroits have a special sound
I drove a 1970 coe 4000 with a. 6 /71 and a ten speed. Tandem axle
Very cool old truck
6 thumbs down, must be someone that doesn't like trucks.
Good vid and an interesting truck will be good to see you drive it
Good luck sir
Wow! Its got Chicago wobblers.
Used to run a bunch of old GMC Dump trucks for a paving company with a bunch of 2 stroke Detroit engines... we had a Brigadier Tri-axle with a 671/13 speed, A General 6 wheeler plus tag with a silver 6V92/Horseshoe 8 speed... there was a few in that fleet with different combos, sadly all that’s left is a Brigadier 6 wheeler plus tag with a 671/Automatic tranny...
Sounds good
That's one cold detroit, a true cold start
That was so satisfying I
very cool...basic old trk..
Love those Transtar2's
This is the model before the Transtars came out.
This is the real deal. Real truckers of Amarica. This is how we remember real trucks on the roads! No new stuff on computers crap!!
Hauled a lot of grain with one just like it.
That's America baby, that's what we do!
fun old hobby truck
Nice camera too!
I love my Detroits