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Major Root Work to My Eastern White Cedar Bonsai, May 2019
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- My Cedar (Thuja occidentalis) gets it's second root pruning after the tree was collected three years ago.
First I give a quick announcement about the Toronto bonsai show and then a greenhouse update.
To see previous videos of my Cedar tree, click the playlist here....
• Collected Large Easter...
To more information about the Toronto bonsai show, here is the link to their website...
torontobonsai.org/
Thanks for your the announcement Nigel! You are a great ambassador to art of Bonsai! See you at the show.
You are very welcome, I can't wait to see the trees and talk with the club members!
You are the Bob Ross of bonsai
Thank you, I really like watching Bob Ross!
Sometimes i feel like youre prunning too much the root system, thank you for your final explanation, that brought all the sense to me on that maybe "extreme" surgeries. Excelent video, thank you again.
Thank you Luis, I'm hoping to create a really nice root base for the future, time will tell if I'm successful!
"Temperature has cooled off...." and still wearing shorts! True northener :D Congrats on the addition to the family
Yes, we are getting down close to freezing at night, but it always seems to warm up when your digging out stumps! The little chick just keeps getting more cute!
I love the attention you give to nature ^-^ . those angles on the terrain and your honest appreciation for them gave me some big ol smiles on these tough personal days . gracias nigel!
I'm hoping the little seedlings grow well and become an important part of the forest!
Packed with all kinds of good, interesting content. Thanks Nigel!
Thank you Angie, we have two more new chicks now, they are very cute, I'll have to show them in the next video!
Happy World Bonsai Day Nigel!
You too, I didn't even know that was a thing until I looked it up!
Huge honeysuckle... one of the best part of spring as a kid... that lil drop of honey inside!!! Nigel... you work so hard... you need a troop of strong young men to help you get that greenhouse up and going
Weather seems to be working in your favor this year, Nigel! God, I can't wait for updates on the lot of you recent videos!
So far all the re potted trees seem to be surviving, but I'll know for sure in another month.
Its great that you mix up with both gardening and bonsai trees, I like it. 👍
Thank you, i don't think I'll be indoors very much this summer!
Didn't look to me like this tree would be at the brink of death.
Good job, I really enjoy to watch this rootwork you always do.
Maybe I was being a little dramatic! I have a good feeling that the tree will survive. I'm looking forward to the next root pruning years from now!
@@TheBonsaiZone Hehe yes, me too !
Loved the greenhouse update. And.....the livestock. What a cute chicken; and, love those ducks. I was surprised to see Muscovy ducks. We have them in our neighborhood - they live on the canals. Like how natural you have left the back property.
Thought about you the other day. I picked up a large piece of Sea Grape that a neighbor had cut from a tree. It had such nice potential I carried it home and put it in a bucket of water. Was surprised that after a day the remaining leaves had plumped up and a couple of others had sprouted. Yesterday I cleaned up the dead areas and put rooting hormone on the cut before planting it in a pot with soil. Keeping my fingers crossed that it now roots. It could make a nice bonsai.
Great job on your tree. Removing those roots has made a world of difference in the look of the tree. Well done! Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy your videos and learn a great deal as well.
Thank you Pat, I've seen some good Sea Grape bonsai, I hope yours pulls through! Thanks, I'm hoping all goes well with the Cedar and I can't wait to see it in the future!
I love your new member as well as your cedar. I my self have 3 western red cedars and they are truly beautiful. Thanks for the update. And happy bonsai day!
Thank you, i hope your TH-cam channel continues to grow, just like your trees!
no matter what you seem to to it never looks like you get dirty. magic.
All the dirt seems to go on my camera!
Nice work on the Cedar, the base is coming on nicely. But dang, Nigel... Your garden is amazing! I think that honeysuckle alone would fill my garden :) Cheers, Darren
The property was originally 1/2 acre and then we bought the forest at the back of our place and it is now an acre! Money well spent in my view!
Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone definitely
One of my favorite trees
Thank you, it has come a long way since collection!
Wow Nigel, when it comes to bare root pruning there is no one braver than the Bonsia Zone !!!
Very interesting video about cleaning the roots system. I learned a lot. Thank you for sharing. 👍👍🇵🇷
That’s a lot of land you have!! We have some really old looking Horse Chestnut trees at the park next to my apartment that have great bark texture and awesome fluted trunks! The compound leaves are YUGE! I never imagined they could make good bonsai. Btw, great work on your cedar, it looks really good! I love seeing all of that hard pruning!
Thank you LAN, I really like the way the branches on the Chestnut trees droop in nature. I just don't seem to be able to grow them, all mine get attacked by boring insects. I was trying out the cheap plastic Canon 50 mm 1.8 lens the other day. I got it from a garage sale for almost nothing. Much to my surprise, it actually not a bad lens! It's fairly sharp and you can get some really nice depth of field. I'll have to include some blurry background shots in my next video!
@@TheBonsaiZone The nifty 50 is a great lens, despite the cheap price! They are fragile though - I broke mine.
Thanks for the information Cedar root pruning...Enjoyed it very much...Hope to apply your techniques to my Western Red Cedar Yamadori's...
Wow Nigel! That was what you call a severe root pruning! I'd be scared as hell to do such work on a tree. I guess experience allows you to work as you do. Great job
I think it has a good chance for recovery, I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Yeah me too! 😊
I know your video that I am watching is 4 years old, but a tip...I saw how heavy the tree stumps were, and I use an easy tip for heavy objects. I put them on my kids old plastic toboggan, slides across the ground by pulling it, and you don't have to lift so high whatever you need to move. Saves on your back.
good luck with your show. i just went to the michigan show today and got the biggest pots they had lol
Thanks Sherman, I just love going to bonsai shows, it always takes my breath away!
We need more bonsai shows and stores in the world !
Another amazing video. That chicken is awesome :)
I have a new Alberta spruce with a nice little trunk and the roots were all encroached, so I went for an emergency root work last Friday.
I pulled two roots that were really tangled and busted my neck so bad I couldn't sleep or drive for days.
Finally today, after almost a week I am almost back to normal.
The tree seems to be doing good after a drastic root work and branch pruning.
But that was an experience!
So no matter how big the tree, thread carefully with entangled roots!
I guess that was my lesson.
Its not as easy as Mr. Saunders makes it look!
It's good to hear you made it through the ordeal! I had separated ribs once when I fell off of a trampoline into a rock garden. I had to sleep upright and not move for about a week. Slowly over the next month I got better to the point where I could bend down and get into a car. That was a good hard lesson for me. Take care and keep your roots radial!
@@TheBonsaiZone Ouch, that was way worse than me!
"and THIS root was looking at me funny!"
Off it goes!
My health won’t allow me to do much as I use to. Have a handyman that does all the heavy stuff for me. Miss the farm and the animals though. Enjoyed watching yours.
Nice video Nigel with great content like aways. Honesty, I Love all the videos so far... Keep them coming...
Thank you, more to come!
Really enjoyed the video, Your work is really paying off and looking great out the back. Those ferns look really nice and would be great to view from your nice walkways. The cedar bonsai is looking good and appreciate the footage of your root pruning.
The ferns grow to the same height as me when they are fully up! It really changes the look of the back yard. Some major work on the Cedar roots, hopefully it will look really awesome in the future! You are welcome to stop in any time for a look.
I really like the roots that show at the bottom, some of the nicest ones I've seen have them
Thank you, i think this tree will become a future treasure, it grew well after this root work and it will be interesting to see the roots in the next re potting, not this spring, but maybe the next.
I envy you for this natural life . good luck freind
Thank you Kamel, I am very lucky to have such a large property!
Mom called Marsh Marigolds "Cow slips". She said they were a spring tonic and made us eat them. they were bitter but with a little vinegar not too bad. :)
Thanks, I had never heard of them being edible!
@@TheBonsaiZone Back in the day it gave people a vitamin C boost after a winter of canned and preserved foods. sNow with freezers and availability of fresh food not such a big deal. Prepare them like you would spinach. Remember they are bitter. :)
Nigel you know you need to learn how to dig that walnut tree out of the ground and pot it up like the Vietnamese do with there big trees!!!!!!!! Come on Nigel
I just need a giant crane in the back yard and giant pot!
@@TheBonsaiZone awesome nigel you didnt cut it, maybe you can use something else as a pot? or build the pot from concrete, its a good idea what Ben suggests
30:44.
"I'm always trying to improve the tree, and if it means bringing the tree closer to that line between life and death, I am willing to take that risk."
The tree response, "beep beep beep beep. I would rather live and not be judged by my kidnapper. Take me home and plant me back into the ground. Beep beep beep!"
Great video. Thanks!
In the wild, it had been chopped back from a tall tree because it was near the ATV trail, hopefully the pruning will get less severe as it gets older!
Crystal sharp video quality
The Canon R, amazing video!
Thanks for the video. I would be scared to prune all those roots. Thanks for the radial root info..
I think the tree will have a really nice root system in the future, I can't wait!
So you live in Paradise 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a backyard that is always fun no matter what you're doing!
3:20 First time I've ever seen a chase scene in a bonsai video :D
Lots of excitement there! I love chasing the ducks, watching them run as a group!
That was impressive. Looking forward to updates.
Thank you, I hope the tree recovers and grows well for the next 3 years! I think the root base will look really nice some day.
Thank you for that line about rather having a great radial root then a great looking tree with ugly roots
What a serene life style
I never run out of things to do!
wht a huge and Butyfull root system and forest is ver nic sir...
Thank you Asgar, my small forests are really fun to develop!
The high root reminds me of trees along a swift rive or creek
Yes, that root have a very natural and miniature appearance to it. I'm hoping the tree will be better off in long term, creating the feeling of an old growth giant Cedar tree.
Now those roots were "Nigelized" you keep giving confidence to try root pruning like you do but nervous
I get nervous too! I think the tree has a good chance of survival and will hopefully grow well this summer!
Love your work Nigel we are similar in alot of ways both Canadian I live in Alberta I'm probably a few years older but we love bonsai as a passion I cant throw away cuttings always trying to root them always saving tiny volunteer seedlings. But your trees look like bonsai so far mine are mostly tree sticks in a pot. Watching your videos getting the courage to Nigelize the roots and try to acheive some real looking bonsai like yours😁 Nigel the root whisperer carry on.
That bonsai reminds me very strongly of the Quinault Cedar
I'm hoping to make it look like an ancient West coast Cedar, with the cathedral type canopy! It has a lot of development to go, but it should be a fun project.
@@TheBonsaiZone Well, you're doing a good job so far! The trunk structure is very close to what I remember the Quinault Cedar looking like. You really can't go wrong with the Quinault Rainforest!
I hope to get to the show as well.
I hope to see you there Denise!
Another great video nigel, that's some back garden that you have its massive
Setting the foundations for your green house looks like hard work you could do with some help shame I live in the UK I would be happy to help .
Thanks Mike, I just keep that dream of the greenhouse in my head and then it never seems like work!
I found an eastern white cedar in the woods and I’m wondering since it’s the month of August, can I dig it up now and do a root reduction to put it into a smaller container for banzai? Or, do I have to wait to another time of the season? I hear that the Eastern red Cedar is more of a juniper
The people who disliked are the ones who don’t have enough patience to do bonsai
Many people don't like the way I work on the roots, bare rooting, combing and styling the root base. The alternate method is leaving the roots intact and just shaving a bit off the sides, top and bottom. This method doesn't really correct any defects in the root base and is usually done on an established bonsai tree.
What creates all the clay?
Mr. Saunders,
I have a Chinese elm that is growing very strong and very quickly. The last time I repotted it was July 2018, and back then it did not have a lot of roots. Yesterday I noticed that a lot of root are growing and coming out the drainage holes and even inside the pot feels packed with roots. I was thinking to move the tree into a bigger pot. Do you think that it is the right time to do it? If not, when is the best time to do some work like repotting?
-Valerio
I would let the tree grow wild for a good month or even two, then prune it back and re pot at the same time. Keep the tree in a bright spot but out of the afternoon sun until it begins to grow again.
Nigel,
What is your current soil mix? Looks like a good amount of perlite.
I collected several cedars this year and was curious of your mix. Thanks for your videos I enjoy them all.
Hello Steve, it is 1/2 perlite and 1/2 turface. The turface is sold as SafetySorb at the farm store.
@@TheBonsaiZone thanks for the reply. Do you use same mix for all or just cedars?
Your property is amazing!
Thank you, it's a work in progress, just like my trees!
Big fan Nigel. Thanks for sharing your life. Enjoy your hair development over the years.
I tried a western red cedar, I had it for 2 years and this spring it died. I will try again, just sad to see it go. Learning as I go
I have had really good luck with a good draining bonsai soil and frequent watering and fertilizing. They are really beautiful trees!
2 questions: how large is your property and wehre do you have the time to do all that bonsaiwork, the videos and all thinks youre doing? Don’t you Need to go to work?
The yard is one acre in size. I am basically retired and do bonsai and other fun stuff, full time!
Thoughts on bare-rooting/root-washing the Thuja? I recently collected two Thuja and a spruce from a friend's garden and have found very different views on how to get collected conifers into bonsai soil - from "don't touch the roots at all" to "complete bare rooting" (like you have). At this stage I've just trimmed roots enough to fit the pots/boxes and hoping they survive while I work out next steps. But aware they'll need to get into proper mix at some point... Advice?
Nigel, i'm sorry, just a question off topic, i asked a question before and you kindly answered, so .... With bonsai mesh, is it ok if you cover entire bottom of bonsai pot with it, or could that maybe stop the drainage a little with water clogging in holes of mesh on bottom of bonsai pot between the drainage holes. I made my first bonsai, only yesterday, it seems good so far but i'm worried if i should of made the mesh just cover the holes and not the entire bottom of pot!!
I think the amount of water trapped by the mesh is not significant. I have seen bonsai pots with the bottom of the pot all curved the wrong way, so water pools in the bottom and the trees seem to do fine despite this!
Thanks Nigel, your a champion!!
The acid has definitely kicked in
This is your brain, this is your brain on bonsai!
Ha ha i love it, You Have a crazy amount of trees and you still cant bare to kill those seedlings.
Soo funny and good for you.
Thanks Sam, every time it rains here, I think of your video and It makes me smile!
Hi Nigel, where can i get bonsai soil, pots, and tools here in guelph?
Hi Nigel, I cannot create a high mound in the center like you have there, so what is the secret? My bonsai soil will roll down to the base since gravity has the final say in the matter. Do I mix regular soil in there to compact it and keep it up there?
How many acres do you have there Nigel.? Never expected the area was that large. Beautiful forest🌲🌲🌲
We have almost a full acre here in the city!
wow thats a lot of root work! how many years until you repeat? another three?
Yes, I think two to three years, I'll have to wait until the tree is growing really strongly.
i was watching the white cedar playlist !
Good timing!
allmost midnight 2.34
I thought I was the only one who did that!
Can I force branches to shoot on my ficus macrophylla cutting by chopping out the terminal bud
Yes, as long as the tree is growing with lots of vigor, it should back bud fine, the Moreton Bay Fig is a great bonsai tree!
Hello! May I ask what is the composition of the substrate in this video? white coil is zeolite?
My soil mix is 1/2 turface and 1/2 perlite. The turface is sold as SafetySorb, it is used for cleaning up oil spills in garages. The perlite is sold at most garden centers.
Hey Nigel, I came across an interesting shrub at the store. I blueberry variety called "pink popcorn" blueberry. I was wondering, have you ever bonsai a blueberry?
Not finding a heck of alot on the subject
You should give it a shot... that could potentially be a beautiful thing!
Yes, I too would give it a try, some of the more rare and unusual trees make great bonsai!
@@TheBonsaiZone took the plunge and got it. So far it's doing well, so hopefully it thrives for years to come
Hello sir, how do you keep your tools rust free? I left mine in the shed and now are covered in rust. I don’t want to by new ones unless I have to.
do you use the same soil mix on all your trees? both hardy and tropical?
Yes, I would add some composted pine bark to my Coniferous trees if I could find a local source. Usually it's just the perlite and turface though.
as always learned a lot. Thank you!
Thank you, great channel you have!
Good work
Thank you, it will be interesting to see the base of the tree years from now!
You sound like Thanos or some other comic book villain at the end of this video. "If I have to bring it to the brink of life or death, that's a risk I'm willing to take for perfection." um lol
Hi sensei what kind of soil is this?
Wondering about the switch from soil to perlite?
I am using 1/2 perlite and 1/2 turface, I screen the soil to remove the dust and fine particles. Here is how I fertilize the trees....
th-cam.com/video/gXIIpxUqxdY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Nigel, When is the best time to do re-potting on my ficus and umbrella trees? They are indoor trees.
Love the videos. I also get a little queasy with major root pruning.
It is best to let them grow wild for a few months before re potting to get the vigor of the plant really high. Once it is nice and bushy up top, you can prune and re pot without fear. It is important to give the trees good conditions for recovery. I like to re pot mine mid summer. In the heat and humidity, they don't skip a beat!
I recently moved from oregon to San antonio texas, do you think my 3 month old fir tree will be ok with the dramatic climate change? Thanks, even if you don't see this🐙
It will be tough on the tree and I'm not sure if it's even possible to grow a Fir trees in Texas. I've been to Houston in the summertime and felt the heat, but hopefully you can give it a cool enough winter.
Here is some reading....
www.chron.com/life/gardening/article/Our-Texas-heat-usually-makes-growing-fir-trees-1530970.php
texastreeid.tamu.edu/content/TreeDetails/?id=87
www.gardenstylesanantonio.com/garden-tips-blog/2015/12/08/2015/12/six-living-christmas-trees-south-texas-landscapes/
I'm seeing the statue of liberty in the end result of that cedar
I see that too! I'm going to grow it in the style of an old growth Western Cedar with a cathedral style canopy! It has a lot of growing to go!
@@TheBonsaiZone Awesome!
I was wondering where you bought the pot that you had the thuja planted in. I never know where to look to find pots like that for larger trees, so I end up either having to build a wood box, or buy a plastic cat litter box and drill holes in it. I would like to get some large round pots like yours for training trees.
Keep up the good work!
Bob
The pot was an under tray for a larger plant pot. I haven't seen any like it for a long time now. I wish I had bought more of them! I drilled the drainage holes in the bottom to make it a bonsai training pot.
Cool and nice 😀
Thank you Oli!
You should try to grow ferns as a bonsai. Do you think its possible to make them tiny?
I've grown New Zealand brass buttons, they look like miniature ferns, but I think it would be very difficult to make a true fern small...
th-cam.com/video/zmPma1hPZfs/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like an experiment :)
i dont think ther is areason to cut the roots if u not gonna put it in a smaller pot.
I work on my root system so it looks like a giant tree, but in miniature. Getting a nice set of surface roots is important to achieve this look.
@@TheBonsaiZone I understand now. Tnx
@Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone where did you found your root rake?
I bought it at a second hand store 25 years ago, it was part of an indoor gardening kit. I haven't seen another like it anywhere!
@@TheBonsaiZone Oh I see, well thanks for the answer!
Do you have a leopard tree
I liked the protruting root system
It did look fine, but I'm developing the tree to look like a giant old growth, West coast Cedar so I need the root base to look like these giant trees!
Got a white cedar too. How old is this one? Any suggestions for this genre?
My Cedar was collected, it was a larger tree neat the edge of a pathway. It had been cut down to a stump and I would guess it is about 15 years old? I am really inspired by the looks of the red Cedar trees on the northern west coast of North America. The ancient white Cedar trees on the Niagara escapement in Ontario are also very inspirational! If you google "ancient Cedar trees" You'll find some good pictures and styles.
@@TheBonsaiZone thank you for your immediate response! I really appreciated that! I took two small branches from the bigger trees in my garden (I have tall trees of white cedar), I planted as a joke and they survived. Now they have 1,5 years (they're very small) and I'm very proud of that. I planted this year another 2 taleas (bigger than the previous) because I'm planning to do a white cedar forest. If there is a way to send you pictures of them let me know! Keep going great as always, greetings from Sicily!!
that’s hard work, but it looks good now !
I think it's a good step for the future. It looks a little strange at the moment, but once the wounds begin to heal and the root base thickens up, I think it will look much better.
Wow! You're leaps n bounds ahead of us in the season! Pussy willows are out here. Marsh marigolds haven't come up yet! They are usually first! My daughter brought home 2 one year old seedlings from school! White Spruce. The bark is so white! Would they make good Bonsai?
Yes, the White Spruce make an excellent bonsai! I'm sure the bark will darken and roughen up with age.
Only a couple more weeks now and the tropical trees should be able to go outside here!
@@TheBonsaiZone Eexcellent! Thank Nigel! And you are lucky! We still get hard frosts... yuck. We had snow Thursday and Friday.
Hi Nigel! I love your stuff. I was wondering, how do you maintain your tools? Sharpen them? Is it possible to do a video on this?
Yes, I try and sharpen them at least once a year, Hong from our club has a video on this....
th-cam.com/video/D7ad0QJ-Zc8/w-d-xo.html
Nice work sir
Thank you very much, if the tree lives it should have a bright future!
Imma try to make a durian tree bonsai.
That will be a really fun project, i'm hoping to make one some day too!
Mine died over the winter. They have beautiful bark. Trying again this year.
29:14 when I also stop breathing
Good idea, we don't want to breath in that dust!
I got wool lice what do i do
Do you have the dancing kind?
th-cam.com/video/X09_-ijlW0E/w-d-xo.html
I spray them with soap and water. Any insecticidal soap will work well also!
This tree still alive?
Yes, it's doing well!!
Good one
Thank you Phoebe!
What’s that mixture you have been using for soil? Per light and ?
I use 1/2 perlite and 1/2 turface. The turface is sold at the farm store as SafetySorb. It is used for cleaning up oil spills in garages.
Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone thanks I know I asked you once before but I couldn't find the other video where I asked lol.
Do you sell any. I want one
I leave my leaf blower idle pointing at the fire and that damp punky wood will burn nicely
That'll do it for sure. like a rocket engine!
Ducks are fun.
I love chasing them with the camera, they always move as one!
Still waiting for that 4k video!
I have that new camera and I've never even taken a photo with it yet or tried the 4K out! I'd better get going!
Cant agree more the root flare makes a tree otherwise just a stick tree in a bonsai pot
A good root base is hopefully the beginnings of a good tree!
The biger cedar looks like an ancient tree..
I'm growing it to resemble an old growth Cedar like you would see on the West coast. It has a lot of growing to go, but I think it will be fun watching it progress!
@@TheBonsaiZone yep..Sir, it's enjoyable to see the progess of the tree.