So much vitality and energy on all of your dances ! It feels great to see your individual expressions into the partnered dance, keep on going !!!!! 💥❤💥
Congrats to all the dancers out there ♥ ! I feel lucky to have seen that with my own eyes and also very much inspired by all these different personalities shining on the dancefloor, thank you for dancing and not just executing steps. You all looked incredible ♥
Love getting to see this! GREAT energy, creativity and spontaneity from these dancers. Love watching follows esp dance unafraid to make musical choices letsgooo 💪❤️💥
Really cool vibes from all the dancers, I love the warmer European version of this competition ! Here was my personal favorites : 1st - Nassia Sfakianaki (Greece) & Chia Ming Liu (Taiwan) - 05:4710:32 2nd - Daniele Veneziano (Italy) & Xavi Iborra Vicheto (Spain) - 05:0109:53 3rd - Suhhee Song (Republic of Korea) & Hung Jie Hsu (Taiwan) - 01:2006:38
To Anne, Tash and Margaret: I think the fact that all three of you created new accounts within the last 24h to be able to anonymously comment on here, shows that you all knew that what you were going to say was really offensive and problematic.
Having watched the prelims in this competition, and now the results. It's clear that nowadays judges are considering more important to make a show instead of good dancing. The 6th couple was robbed, they were the clearly winners.
"Good dancing" is often a subjective matter informed by cultural upbringing and personal taste. "Nowadays" is also not fair as a lot of competitions these days still value the type of dancing it sounds like you're preferencing. Everyone did a great job, this was a lot of fun to watch - but the idea that some are making a show INSTEAD of good dancing doesn't add up. What is good dancing if not a good show? What is dancing if not self expression? European ideals of dancing focus on things like "clean" lines of the arms and legs and some kind of closeness to a precise aesthetic defined by a standardised version of the artform (ballet being a perfect example), but not all cultures perceive and value dance in that way, instead prioritising things like self-expression, polycentrism and polyrhythm (for example), and Lindy Hop is not a culturally European dance. Further to the point: my experience of being in a room with any type of performance is that something can look beautiful but not always move the audience in the same way - for instance, sometimes when a performer is trying too hard to control the crowd perception, they block their honest selves from reaching the audience. I've done that a lot! And the audience can feel it in person, whereas on a video things may read differently. Your comment comes off as snarky, rude, and just plain out of touch with the lineage and values of jazz dance. I think this competition showcases a beautiful range of people's influences and styles and personally I celebrate how fun and full of life it was. As you say - what a show!! 💖
@@earaneeniedzwiecki7656 Thank you! I'd like to add that this competition is an open-level mix and match. That means you can have dancers with different technique levels and backgrounds. You pair them up and observe how they groove and improvise together to the music. I've danced with most of these dancers on the social floor, and they are all amazing. If it looks like we were trying to put on a show, I truly think that we all danced authentically and were energized by the audience. And please don't hesitate to ask me for a dance; you'll see that I cannot help but let all my emotions come to my face. Finally, I really enjoyed this competition. I felt a lot of support from the crowd and all my fellow competitors. I think we all deserved to be in this final, and I have the impression that we all did a great job celebrating the art form. 🎉
Agreed 3000% The only reason that couple won is because the judges were trying to force certain non-dancing factors into the competition. If this has been judged purely by technique, control, and timing then the 6th couple would have won handily. One particular judge I've seen throughout the weekend was trying her hardest to turn Lindy Hop into a skill-less, non-technical dance that certainly does not resemble Lindy Hop back in the days.
I find the comment from @earanee a bit escalatory and self righteous. Watch spirit moves and you’ll see very different dancing than this! Not about euro centric or whatever. This is nice dancing, but what’s being rewarded of late is more solo based, fool around stuff. Doesn’t take much connection or control. Hope the scene can drive towards a balance of dancing together versus fooling around holding hands with a stank face. I’m not white or European or a man. Does that give my comment extra credibility?
oh yes so much great dancing, I think it nicely displays how many different expressions are possible in Lindy Hop :) Side note for the little discussion going on. If you are really wondering, "what are the values of jazz dance", this clip is a great start (so is the book Luana wrote, which is what this lecture excerpt is based on): th-cam.com/video/3I5reD8rk9Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ybysjMdnvD0bIWA_ Other than that, I think the judges did a great job, I found all the dancers amazing and couldnt have decided on a placing probably, but I see what made them decide the way they did. In the end, as mentioned, taste, as dancing itself, is very personal, but there are values and aesthetics that are important to the core of Lindy Hop / Jazz as a Black American dance and understanding these values better will make it easier to appreciate the dance for as it is and not necessarily for what we want it to be... having this said it is also very valid to make the dance what you want it to be, as long as you are aware and respect what the dance means to the cultures and communities that developed it... And I think all of the dancers in this competition did a fine job with it!
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So much vitality and energy on all of your dances ! It feels great to see your individual expressions into the partnered dance, keep on going !!!!! 💥❤💥
Congrats to all the dancers out there ♥ !
I feel lucky to have seen that with my own eyes and also very much inspired by all these different personalities shining on the dancefloor, thank you for dancing and not just executing steps.
You all looked incredible ♥
Love getting to see this! GREAT energy, creativity and spontaneity from these dancers. Love watching follows esp dance unafraid to make musical choices letsgooo 💪❤️💥
Really cool vibes from all the dancers, I love the warmer European version of this competition !
Here was my personal favorites :
1st - Nassia Sfakianaki (Greece) & Chia Ming Liu (Taiwan) - 05:47 10:32
2nd - Daniele Veneziano (Italy) & Xavi Iborra Vicheto (Spain) - 05:01 09:53
3rd - Suhhee Song (Republic of Korea) & Hung Jie Hsu (Taiwan) - 01:20 06:38
To Anne, Tash and Margaret:
I think the fact that all three of you created new accounts within the last 24h to be able to anonymously comment on here, shows that you all knew that what you were going to say was really offensive and problematic.
Having watched the prelims in this competition, and now the results. It's clear that nowadays judges are considering more important to make a show instead of good dancing.
The 6th couple was robbed, they were the clearly winners.
Can you tell me which couple I'm sincerely interested. Are they in this?
"Good dancing" is often a subjective matter informed by cultural upbringing and personal taste. "Nowadays" is also not fair as a lot of competitions these days still value the type of dancing it sounds like you're preferencing.
Everyone did a great job, this was a lot of fun to watch - but the idea that some are making a show INSTEAD of good dancing doesn't add up. What is good dancing if not a good show? What is dancing if not self expression? European ideals of dancing focus on things like "clean" lines of the arms and legs and some kind of closeness to a precise aesthetic defined by a standardised version of the artform (ballet being a perfect example), but not all cultures perceive and value dance in that way, instead prioritising things like self-expression, polycentrism and polyrhythm (for example), and Lindy Hop is not a culturally European dance.
Further to the point: my experience of being in a room with any type of performance is that something can look beautiful but not always move the audience in the same way - for instance, sometimes when a performer is trying too hard to control the crowd perception, they block their honest selves from reaching the audience. I've done that a lot! And the audience can feel it in person, whereas on a video things may read differently.
Your comment comes off as snarky, rude, and just plain out of touch with the lineage and values of jazz dance. I think this competition showcases a beautiful range of people's influences and styles and personally I celebrate how fun and full of life it was. As you say - what a show!! 💖
@@earaneeniedzwiecki7656 Thank you! I'd like to add that this competition is an open-level mix and match. That means you can have dancers with different technique levels and backgrounds. You pair them up and observe how they groove and improvise together to the music.
I've danced with most of these dancers on the social floor, and they are all amazing.
If it looks like we were trying to put on a show, I truly think that we all danced authentically and were energized by the audience. And please don't hesitate to ask me for a dance; you'll see that I cannot help but let all my emotions come to my face.
Finally, I really enjoyed this competition. I felt a lot of support from the crowd and all my fellow competitors. I think we all deserved to be in this final, and I have the impression that we all did a great job celebrating the art form. 🎉
Agreed 3000% The only reason that couple won is because the judges were trying to force certain non-dancing factors into the competition. If this has been judged purely by technique, control, and timing then the 6th couple would have won handily. One particular judge I've seen throughout the weekend was trying her hardest to turn Lindy Hop into a skill-less, non-technical dance that certainly does not resemble Lindy Hop back in the days.
I find the comment from @earanee a bit escalatory and self righteous.
Watch spirit moves and you’ll see very different dancing than this! Not about euro centric or whatever. This is nice dancing, but what’s being rewarded of late is more solo based, fool around stuff. Doesn’t take much connection or control. Hope the scene can drive towards a balance of dancing together versus fooling around holding hands with a stank face.
I’m not white or European or a man. Does that give my comment extra credibility?
oh yes so much great dancing, I think it nicely displays how many different expressions are possible in Lindy Hop :)
Side note for the little discussion going on. If you are really wondering, "what are the values of jazz dance", this clip is a great start (so is the book Luana wrote, which is what this lecture excerpt is based on): th-cam.com/video/3I5reD8rk9Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ybysjMdnvD0bIWA_
Other than that, I think the judges did a great job, I found all the dancers amazing and couldnt have decided on a placing probably, but I see what made them decide the way they did. In the end, as mentioned, taste, as dancing itself, is very personal, but there are values and aesthetics that are important to the core of Lindy Hop / Jazz as a Black American dance and understanding these values better will make it easier to appreciate the dance for as it is and not necessarily for what we want it to be... having this said it is also very valid to make the dance what you want it to be, as long as you are aware and respect what the dance means to the cultures and communities that developed it... And I think all of the dancers in this competition did a fine job with it!