It's certainly a problem were there's polygamy or serial monogamy like in US. In both such cases, women are attracted to rich and successful. In Muslim countries a rich Saudi can have dozen of wives, while there are fewer women left for poor peasants. In US, while it's technically a monogamy, many women will just divorce if their mate is poor and has little potential to make it. Than they'll just throw themselves into the arms of someone from top 1% or top 10% or at least top 50% (if she is not that marketable). Or into the arms of someone who has potential to make it to the top. Then men from top 1% dump women all the time to get better ones. Since with money comes options. And so maybe top 75% of women are recycled among top 50% of richer and more successful men. So bottom 50% of men are left to compete for bottom 25% of women. And bottom 10% of men hardly stand a chance. So the effect with serial monogamy is the same as with polygamy. And the more unequal a country is, the more pronounced is this effect. But even in Denmark the chances for a successful marriage for the bottom 10% of men are not good. However at least the difference between bottom 50% and top 1% is much smaller than in US, so bottom 50% in Denmark stand much better chance of finding a mate there than in US where top 0.1 owns 90% of wealth.
+Mammal Right on! Very well said. There is a very good book on the subject called "Men On Strike." I would recommend it, but you already have the idea.
he actually hits on a real issue. sexual frustration manifests itself in really weird ways. combine that with societies expectations, male bravado, and female sexuality constantly thrown in our faces, it's not hard to understand why we have so many crazy kids.
+Arch5tanton Thing is I got brown nieces and nephews under the age of 7, and, ya know what? THEY'RE the majority in their age group....better get fuckin'........that's an even worse problem, than anything else....white people not fuckin' as much as they should. THAT's humanity's biggest problem. the ones left ain't fuckin', and they're tryin' to exterminate the rest of us......man. grow a dick. The world's problems would be solved, if white people just fucked more...
Romantic love and chivalry is borderline crazy. Women are almost always transactional in nature themselves and leave the doting and lunacy to the man to show their brightest feathers, or have to prove their salt to be worthy. The definition of love: an intense feeling of deep affection The definition of affection: a gentle feeling of fondness or liking. The definition of fondness: affection or liking for someone or something The definition of liking: a feeling of regard or fondness One vague definition used to describe another vague definition used to describe another vague definition used to describe another vague definition.
Legalized prostitution will help these guys minimally at best, and at worst give them a crutch to not attempt to improve themselves as human beings. They are in the grander scheme of things looking for connection and validation, not sex.
Well... Maybe all the other mental illnesses are. And also note that most women are sexually frustrated even in relationships and we don't go around shooting poeple
That is so so true. And I would not so much point to the sexualization of the media, but to the attitude towards relationships in the media. Everything is about getting a partner and it is often implied that if you do not have a partner you must be a sad loser. I do like sexy women and I like to see them, but there must be a revolution towards an appreciation of an asexual lifestyle.
+Ernie Hudson I hear your point on teaching the appreciation of the asexual lifestyle (chosen or by circumstance), but we should also be teaching our brothers how to actually talk to girls and how to be comfortable around them. It's not like we're an endangered species competing to spread our DNA anymore. We can help each other out.
+MegaVolcano Yes, that can be also a strategy, but if somebody has a less pleasing physical appearance then he will have a harder time to get closer to women no matter of how much he is a smooth-talker. He will feel more rejected in comparison to his friends and that in itself builds up frustration.
Ernie Hudson Shit dude, you haven't met my friend, Shayne. When I met him he hadn't brushed his teeth in years, was a dirty looking headbanger, and that dude to this day can talk the panties off of any woman. I took my cues from him. Be clever, keep them laughing, keep them comfortable.
Everybody asexual? That's like saying abstinence is the best thing to do. Many guys aren't comfortable around women because they have always been taught to put women above themselves on pedestal, if you could show relationships on a regular perspective way another thing would be. There is also the whole puritanism thing on relationships which leads to more confusion and frustration. Teaching a healthy view on relationships helps a lot. Other countries don't have this problems.
+Enrique Godinez This problem is not unique to the United States. I am German and I lived as well for a long time in Britain and I have a lot of international friends. The problem with guys getting girls is not a specific cultural problem, but just biology. We are all programmed to look for attractive partners and women in general are even more picky than men, so if someone looks chubby or has not a symmetric face or is disfigured he will have the problem that his chances are reduced in every country on planet earth (except he is mega rich or there are arranged marriages) and that is a hurtful thing to learn! And if you are rejected by the one you fell in love with that is even more hurtful and no culture in the world will ever change that. And I do not mean people should live an asexual lifestyle, but the media should send out the message that you can be on your own and have a fulfilled life and there is nothing wrong with you and there is no clock clicking in the background. In almost every fucking movie the single person has to find a partner in order to be transformed into a happy human being. Bullshit!!!
My only caveat to what Bill said was that he simultaneously acknowledged the problem and then made fun of the ugly awkward kid for being ugly and awkward. There's something to being aware and accepting who you are, and not feeling entitled to women swooning over you, but at the same time that kind of 'he's a loser' attitude only feeds into the problem.
Don't take away the guns. Take away their reasons to kill. Take away their accumulated resentment. How about displaying kindness and compassion to someone who's obviously showing difficulty in socializing ? How about instead of laughing in a guy's face when he asks you out, politely say no and walk away without making him feel like a creep ? How about not bragging about how much money you have and just be grateful for it instead ?
+ninearthify "How about instead of laughing in a guy's face when he asks you out, politely say no and walk away without making him feel like a creep ?" That doesn't sound like you're blaming them at all. Not even a little bit. By the way, there are millions of people who get rejected by someone every day and they handle it. Not every girl who turns these guys down is laughing in their face either, there are women who did politely refuse the shooter at one point who ended up being killed regardless. It's not the fact that they weren't polite to them, it's the fact that they were refused something they thought they deserved. That's the difference between people who actually become mass shooters and normal frustrated people--the former feels entitled to the perfect life and seeks vengeance they feel is justly deserved when they don't get it. Most people aren't like that, they're able to get over rejection or bullying without killing people.
+ninearthify Do you really think women actually laughed in these guys' faces? Your premise vilifies women unfairly. I'd wager even if they were turned down politely these men would have still sprayed the room.
When you label yourself as a conservative Republican and try to date another conservative Republican you never gonna get a date it's one assholes asking out another assholes Stop being asses and try being nice thoughtful caring nonjudgemental and just maybe one van get a date
This is essentially the "toxic masculinity" argument - that men feel entitled to sex with women and become violent when they don't get it. And he cherry-picks the examples of mass shooters (out of dozens) who had issues with women. If you want to look into someone's social life predisposing them to violence, maybe look into how many friends they have. Maybe look into how the people they usually interact with are treating them. Sure women didn't pour affection on those weird looking guys, but how do you think everyone else behaved toward them? How often do you think any of those murderers got invited to a party or just to hang out? Sexual frustration can be hell to deal with. Most people know this because it happens to most people at some point. Loneliness is a much worse monster though, and it's hard for most people to relate to it since it's not something they experience to anywhere near the degree these men did. Also, this is a piss poor example of assuming correlation implies causation. Women are the sex that does the selecting, filtering out the partners they don't want. The men they filter out are undesirable to them for some reason. The reasons range from simple things like height preference to serious ones like signs of mental disturbance. Gee I wonder if there might be a confounding variable somewhere in this scenario.
No doubt about it loneliness is a trigger factor. A friend of mine recently posted that the best way she knows to stop school shootings is too encourages her child to talk to the kid at school that no one is talking to. Being a friend to a kid that may be socially awkward. Not saying that "not getting shot" should be the reason for kindness but creating a kinder environment will go a long way.
I'm not sure it's sexual frustration as much as lack of connection. As much as we like to talk about how men are all about sex, I think it's more accurate to say that men simply value physical intimacy earlier in a relationship than women typically do (it's biological), but that ALL people really just want meaningful/valuable relationships with each other. These shooters almost always have very weak social circles. They become frustrated with their inability to connect, and it's a short step from those feelings to "finding someone to blame"... surprise surprise, they focus on the places where we all take our first (mis)steps in developing social skills -- schools. Perhaps we should be helping kids manage social relationships better. Schools are still very much based around the factory model -- 30 kids come in a room, get their dose of training, move onto the next room, get their next dose of training, etc. However, each kid is at a different place emotionally, socially, intellectually, physically, and so on. In a typically American high school you've got kids in the same room who are emotionally 10, physically 18 with kids who are emotionally 25, physically 15. Individualization needs to accommodate things like emotional intelligence, where kids who are "loners" (especially those who don't really want to be) can get attention that helps them figure out how to make more connections.
+J R Yeah its definitely lack of connection. I was in the same big boat as all of those kids but I still had close friends from High School who were in my corner no matter how much sex I had and they didn't judge me at all. None of those kids had any friends at all, leaving shit they read and watch on the internet as their ONLY guiding force since their parents were so attentive. It would get to anyone. I feel like the fact that you can choose to be a basement dweller and not directly get penalized for it is also a contributing factor. The fact that nearly half of men over 25 are jobless and live with their parents scares the shit out of me cuz it means they are getting polluted by reading shit on the internet all day. I mean shit I was running a 10 month dry spell until yesterday and I didn't hurt a soul. Why? Cuz I got other shit to worry about. I have school, a job, hobbies that I take seriously, etc. I don't have the time to hurt people cuz I got shit to do. We should have like a "reverse curfew" where people are forced out of their homes for certain times of the day lol.
you are onto something here with your post. The social skills thing is true but it goes much deeper than that. at least 4 out of those shooters, possibly all 5 were on the autism spectrum. ( a pattern maher failed to notice)They had a subtle frustrating invisible mental impairment that prevented them or made it much more difficult to do just that . socializing . You are right on your points, but someone on the spectrum doesn't understand social cues or cant talk the subtle "language of socializing" . A girl may throw signs of interest verbal or non verbal, they may not understand. They needed to have been thought social skills other people learn without anyone teaching them.
+Bob Cornholio I say why the hell not, what ever the way the powers have working don't seem to be right now so lets try a new thing for once. we may just be surprised
Fuck no. It's hard out here for a pimp! What? You want us to stop profiting off the work of the actual workers, abusing them and coercing them? Fuck you, mang!
+Zac Jay the media needs to stop teasing or outlets (prostitution) need to be legalized. Humans are animals and when you tease an animal enough it will snap.
Bill, let’s talk about antidepressants causing these shooters! Under 25 yr olds are at risk of forming suicidal ideations. How far off could homicidal thoughts be if suicidal thoughts are possible? Both require a loss of appreciation of life.
Great point Bill! Not joking at all, if these guys could have had sex, I doubt they would have been mass shooters. Maybe the solution to spree shooters is legalizing and destigmatization of sex workers and their customers. Access to sex can't hurt and not only would have helped these men but would have also been a great way to stop the exploitation of sex workers by criminals and end another reason why people go to jail unnecessarily in this country.
Agreed 100%. I read, somewhere, when Australia 🇦🇺 legalized or at least decriminalized massage parlour "happy endings" there was a decrease in divorce etc
No, they would NOT be mass shooters, and that’s what makes these people talking about “gun” control so stupid. Like frustration only needs guns to express itself
Yukikazehalo Sould it be illegal and should there be a social stigma associated with it? Both parties consent and get what they want so I don't see a problem
Physical satisfaction and emotional satisfaction aren't the same thing. Rape is a act of violence "doing something to someone." Good sex is" doing something with someone. "
This could be one of the most pointed and (gasp) compassionate lists Maher has ever ever presented, particularly the connection between violence and sexual frustration.
There’s a massive difference between what you call and assault rifle and the type of weapons out military uses. Handguns are responsible for way more deaths yearly than your so called “assault rifles”
he's 'bang on' with this insight, it's the combo of social stigma with unfulfilled desire - either one separately should be tolerable to most people but when we are shamed for personal misfortunes it's creating a prison for the mind
Bill nailed it. Gun violence is down 50% from where it was twenty years ago, so any increase in shooting sprees is NOT about guns. It's about something else.
@ronnie van den heuvel If you take out gang violence, there are not that many gun homicides in America, especially considering we privately own about 400 Million guns.
Many guys aren't comfortable around women because they have always been taught to put women above themselves on pedestal, if you could show relationships on a regular perspective way another thing would be. There is also the whole puritanism thing on relationships which leads to more confusion and frustration. Teaching a healthy view on relationships helps a lot. Other countries don't have this problems. Feminists have something to be blamed here as well.
+Enrique Godinez Ehh, I'd argue that the real issue is toxic masculinity. The idea that one needs to be a "real man", to be "tough", and "macho" is deeply corrosive and psychologically poisonous. Stigmatizing a man for showing any perceived sign of weakness encourages men who feel hurt to hide their pain by lashing out violently in tragedies like these, and it's high-time we acknowledge that fact and take action to correct it by reducing the stigma associated with expressing sadness or pain, and to do that we need to STOP telling boys to "man up" and STOP saying to "grow a thicker skin", and take a long, deep look in a MIRROR and admit that all this toughness is killing us from inside, and eating away at us like a malignant tumor until all that remains is a tough, but hollow, empty shell.
+Steve Chisnall Trouble is, women uphold Toxic Masculinity more than any man. Just read through ONE woman's magazine. Nearly all of them express intense dislike for men who have not "made it," who are sexually inexperienced, and who are socially awkward. When the vast majority of women stop demanding that any man who tries to ask them out be perfect in every aspect of life, then there might be a change.
Joelsuf Exactly you got it. Women always looking for the "attractive athletic perfect guy" and if you are outside the category for most of them they look down on you.
Enrique Godinez I wouldn't say looked down on, just not dateable. It IS kinda on guys to accept that and look for chicks who are on their level of attractiveness. Any guy who has made the decision to not be at their best aesthetically and socially and still bitches about attractive women not dating him is delusional. And even still, dating is completely random and a lot of boys more and more have a big problem understanding that. That to me is the scary part. That's how it is with me. I date average to below average chicks (from cold approaching/online dating) because I'm not physically attractive enough to get better looking chick, at least outside of a social circle. This is why it is SO important to have a good network of friends even if they are not close. You can meet chicks who are more attractive this way. Some of healthiest and successful couples I know are completely mismatched when it comes to appearance but just because they met at a bowling league or something they were able to get together. It's kinda on women to at least be honest with the boys they are shooting down and to not judge them by how socially intelligent they are or how good they are at sex. But its kinda on men to realize that don't just deserve chicks for existing and to get some friends (and no this doesn't count people you interact with online). Both sexes have a lot to work on.
+Joelsuf "When the vast majority of women stop demanding that any man who tries to ask them out be perfect in every aspect of life, then there might be a change" Pardon me for asking, but isn't the whole problem the fact that these shooters seem to be demanding that they deserve a woman who is perfect in every aspect of life. You said yourself that people need to accept their own looks/personality and go for someone who is on their same level, so shouldn't that apply to women as well? Evolutionarily-speaking, women have always been the one who needs to be selective in choosing their mate, because they're the ones who carry the baby so their biological role has been deciding which mate has the best-fitting genes to create the strongest offspring. That's why women are turned on during ovulation and men are turned-on mostly all the time, if women were turned on all the time everyone would be fucking but it would be against the biological imperative to reproduce, if men were only turned on once a month nobody would ever fuck, this set-up is the best for a species to continue procreating. So women are naturally more picky than men, but it's because sex for us can result in a baby so we want to make sure whoever we're sexing will have strong genes to pass down. Apparently when a person smells good it means their immune system is opposite of yours, which results in stronger immune systems in potential offspring. Whereas men aren't as picky because for them the biological imperative is to spread their seed, they can't have their own babies so the chances of passing down your genes comes down to sexing as many ladies as possible to make their chances of reproduction greater. That's where the whole "women are picky/men will fuck anything" stereotypes come from at least.
Adam Lanza is the type of person who given that picture should not have access to even a pair of scissors; let alone a gun, knives, pruning shears, hedge clippers, etc.
The problem isn't sexual frustration, it's the inability to manage it. Because most people just wanna have fun, they have no clue how to serve a greater purpose. And serving a greater purpose is the best way to manage many forms of frustration.
Maybe he's right Maybe there is a correlation. I mean look at Elliot Rogers. It's funny cause he was actually "man" enough to admit his issues with women.
Dude couldn't even get laid driving a BMW. lol. All joking aside, nothing about killing innocent people, walking down the street, with handguns, on a college campus, resembles the faintest bit of manliness. This is someone that had severe mental problems that would've eventually taken out his anger on anyone, or anything, depending on his latest collection of insecurities.
@@Chrisicola he was actually quite good looking and came from a well of family. It was definitely a mental health issue that caused his inability to make friends or be in a relationship. He was also apparently autistic
@@ivanvoronov3871Who knows exactly. I think it was a combination of inability, and/or desire, as far as associating with others. Maybe he had an unnerving presence around others, or said weird s--t, or was an a-hole and didn't realize it (probably it). He was an average looking dude with a BMW in college-I mean if you cant get a date in that situation then there's serious problems. Most other guys at college have no money and eat ramen noodles 5 days a week. His problems were purely internal and he blamed and punished (killed) others in cold blood for his own demons. I mean that guy was like 20, right? Who's that pissed off at the world when they're 20 years old and driving a Beamer around the UCSB campus? Geez, if he thought life stunk then, what would he be like at 50?
+RebelThoughts82 Yes, the bottom line on most human behavior comes down to the fundamentals. Sex, power, survival...the core issues that make us who we are.
No because she inevitably chooses the "stud" anyway, reinforcing the tropes to the average looking kids that even their teacher is off limits to their fantasy.
@@nocheteipsum stop feeling sorry for yourself. Some women prefer nerds or men who aren't chads. I am an INTP, so 'chads' are a turn off - unless their IQ is over 130. Stop worrying about what *most* women want and focus on the type of women who like your type. Even if that is only 1% of females - do the math- there are millions of females on the planet. I had a hard time meeting men I liked in my rural area, but found some willing to drive hours to see me - I either found them online or met them in a metro area. Stop being *re*active and start being *pro*active. There are women out there who are lonely and would love your company - if you release your bitterness towards women- no body wants a sour friend.
Bill said what everyone was thinking about those damn Carl's Jrs. ads. Also, even when you're not a waify model you'll not be left in the mood after eating one of those things. More like an itis and major dump afterwards.
Maher is in the right ball-park, but on the WRONG base. The real problem is deeper than mere sexual frustration. The problem is machismo. The whole notion that a "real man" has to be tough and never show any weakness, and that to show any weakness even for a single moment is to fail at manliness. The TRUTH is: we ALL have some form or other of weaknesses, and nobody is completely free of vulnerability. Initially when boys express that they feel hurt, they're inevitably admonished to "stop being weak", to "man up", to "grow a thicker skin" and to "toughen up", but no matter how much one tries to be tough, there ALWAYS will be SOME-thing that can get through all that armor. When a believer of this machismo "philosophy" is presented with this unpleasant reality, they see no other choice but to lash out violently, in a desperate attempt to hide vulnerability behind a façade of aggression, as we've seen from these mass-shootings. The root of the problem is a culture of toxic masculinity that constantly promotes shallow, almost fetishistic worship of brute-strength, and simultaneously ridicules and even outright stigmatizes traits like mercy, sensitivity, caring, and compassion, as being "too girly".
You really did hit on an important point of view in this broadcast, and it should be studied further. Sexual energy and frustration can be infectuous among younger men, and it certainly can lead to violent acts. Congratulations of discussing a neglected "fuse" subject.
Thank you for saying it Bill, I've actually been suggesting the sexual frustration link for years now, but some, especially feminists, just don't what to hear it. I legitimately think there are a lot of suffering young men out there, and it is a problem, and not only do we not offer them support, but we shame them and marginalize and make fun of them.
Well let's be honest. It's fundamentally unnatural for human beings to make it into their 20's and never having sex. That's a relatively new thing because of less death and greater security found in civilization. However our brains are still wired as we were ten thousand years ago living in small tribes with partners either chosen for us by our parents or being self selected pretty soon after we hit puberty because that was basically your only form of entertainment. Today we have school, work, video games, books, etc and yet it's not what our brains and bodies had adapted to so once again it's a case of us being too sophisticated for our own bodies.
He makes a good point but I think there is a bigger picture here he is not revealing. How does this culture effect the FATHERS of these boys? Does everyone notice that these shooters' fathers are never interviewed? Moreover, do you all also notice that the mothers are? it is a psychological fact that the majority of traumas to boys are directly related to their relationship or lack thereof with their fathers. This country has another epidemic that I am witnessing in real life. That is that many fathers are leaving their families to fulfill their carnal desires in the most entitled way. In other words, men in their "midlife crisis" seek the superficial American dream of being a Playboy. Boys are being raised by their mothers and fail to learn on how to be a good man because they have no ethical male role models to learn from. As a result we are dealing with their awkward offspring who can't relate to women and to society as a whole for that matter. The evidence is look at the divorce rate in this country in decades. It's been on the rise.
When Bill said that nobody is talking about this, I got excited. But nowhere in this segment did Bill mention that these men - sexually frustrated though they may be - are NOT ENTITLED TO US WOMEN. If you want this aspect of cultural rot to improve, then parents need to do a better job of raising their boys to respect women. A loving relationship is something that both people must earn. Bill, I'm a little bit disappointed in you. This segment had so much potential, but it left me with emotional "blue balls". #YesAllWomen
+April Shattuck The familiar tired refrain. Do you realize that men might actually take it seriously IF all the bimbos who dropped their pants to Flynn, Clooney et al. had instead rebuffed those men by reminding them not to be "entitled", lol. You can't have it both ways girls: you can't selectively grant "entitlement" to some men and scornfully deny it to others, any more than people's right to a fair trial should depend on the size of their bank account. The safest and balanced way is to say that yes, men (ALL men) aren't entitled to promiscuity, but likewise women (ALL women) aren't entitled to jump up and down and file bogus harassment charges simply when someone they happen not to 'fancy' expresses an interest in a relationship. Also, time to go easy on that hashtag as it's dead easy to stick a few unflattering words after it by way of generalization.
+April Shattuck Okay. Respect all women, since they deserve better treatment than men. Your Klan uniform is running pink. You are a walking stereotype of female supremacy. Don't dare call yourself a feminist, you'd be shitting in the backyard of the National Organization for Women, a group that actually made progress and that my mom was a proud member of. No one's entitled to shit except death and taxes (or just death if you are jobless and pay no taxes). Men aren't entitled to sex with chicks, and chicks aren't entitled to support just because they have vaginas. Its sad to see that your version of equality is women getting back at men.
frank jones Those "evolutionary needs" have been downplayed tho. Nowadays it is totally possible to be a basement dweller who just goes on the internet all day without consequence. Its not that men "can't" have a mate, they just don't want to have a mate who isn't as attractive as they want. That is the reality of the situation. Boys who see themselves as dateless and sexless are that way because it is a choice. Granted, it is a choice that becomes the default because the temptation to just hang out at the house and interact with people online is very great, but it is a choice nonetheless. But hookup and PUA culture tells them that they should feel like they are in prison because they are dateless/sexless. Most of these basement dwellers place the responsibility of their sex lives on women. They have no idea that they are giving their power away. But the way this culture talks about sex so much, it makes them paranoid. I wouldn't be surprised if half these school shooters have developed schizophrenic traits from all the shit they read on the internet. When people of both sexes stop judging men by their laycounts and by how socially intelligent they are, that's when we are gonna see progress.
William Baric Oh that makes sense. I think you kinda went overboard with the not even holding the door thing but yeah I agree. Never a good thing to put chicks on a pedestal.
Should probably keep an eye on the 28 people who disliked this video so far. Me thinks they be repressed if you know what I mean, and I think you do. ; )
If anything, I'd guess they'd be MORE likely to like this video. It's probably Evangelicals who cringe when anything remotely tangential to human sexuality is brought up....
+Yukikazehalo Nonsense. You're talking about the familiar 80/20 rule where roughly 80% of effects come from only 20% of the causes.How do you figure this applies to female partner choices?
+PrometheaRising I think he's saying that 80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You could say that the vice-versa is also true, but in the end, the woman is the one who makes the choice, not the men.
+AgeOfSuperboredom "I think he's saying that 80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You could say that the vice-versa is also true" You could say a lot of bullshit that isn't true.
Alternamaton What's not true about it? It's pretty obvious that only a minority of men receive exceptionally positive attention and desire from women, but eventually everyone settles for what they can get, which is usually not what they want the most.
the problem is that autistic people like me or the shooters need special teaching on how to talk and interact to learn what a normal person does not need teaching on. how easy was in your college? what college was it by the way?
"I dont know that anyone ever said 'sex sex sex, thats all I ever do, where's my gun, I'm mad at the wordl" I dont know, thats kind of what genghis khan did.
Gregthegamer he is a different kind of murderer than these lone crazies though. and when you think about it I'm not sure Genghis could ever attract a consenting woman based on his own glimmering personality
Bravo Bill Maher! Men’s Rights, this is an issue people need to start talking about to begin addressing some serious problems in society: mass shootings (100% male), homicides (80%+ male), and suicides (80%+ male). For thousands of years, men’s sex drive has propagated our species, and then over the last 50 years as society evolves with more equal rights for women, we are suddenly asking young men to turn-off their sex drive that has evolved over thousands of years. We need to start providing advocacy groups for Men’s Rights so young men do not feel disenfranchised.
this is a problem with many determinants to it -- sexual frustration is one element.. but there are many others.. its simplistic to reduce this to even being mostly about sexual frustration.. each case has determinants that weigh more or less heavily on the end product.
its true, ive seen the change in the last 30 years, if this country was having more sex, and not making sex bad or using it as a tool of manipulation, folks would be a lot happier, less arguing, less frustration, even things like less road rage, etc. , yes its true
+Peter Smythe You mean Charles Manson. He is not the first person to suggest this, it has been well documented, lots of books written on the subject. People just don't want to admit it. But it is true. What do you think happens to young men who grew up sheltered playing video games with poor social skills, from unsupportive families when the time comes to meet girls-non of which is there fault, you can't fault a child, but now they blame society who they think is responsible. It is not magic, use common sense. Many will suffer through it, other will go to drugs and drinks, few will join the army "Generation Kill", and few will commit atrocities. If you takeaway the guns, the crazy ones will find something else.
+ponder2006 Well Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, Metallica, Eminem, others; have all been blamed for "causing" incidents of school violence. To me that is just such a cop out explanation, and so is; "because they didn't have sex".
The fact that they are not having sex is the result. Most of these guys are antisocial, They have hard time making normal friends, having a regular conversation with people. As they grow to adulthood most of that anxiety and frustration is focused in to having a gf which they can't, they haven't developed the skill to have even a guy friend, all those people you mentioned didn't have a normal childhood, but they found an outlet in Music. Listen to Eminem's lyrics you understand his anger and pain, music saved him. Even if these guys paid for sex, they may still end up angry and frustrated even worse because, now they realize even sex can't remove the anger, social anxiety they feel inside. Bill nailed it, in that he underlines the boiling point which is Sex. The root cause that made them not have a friend to talk to is the real problem.
The problem here is not getting sex; rather, the problem is misogyny. I'm surprised that Bill did not identify this trend as misogyny, an exemplar of the real danger that patriarchal values pose to the lives of women. I'm also disgusted by many of the comments on here that seem to suggest that we need to find a way for these young men to get more sex, rather than condemning them for letting their denied sexual urges amount to killing sprees. Trust me, women have just as strong of a sex drive as men, and there are plenty of sad and depressed women who can't get laid because they're not attractive, but you do not see this kind of violence being committed by these women. It's not the fact that these guys can't get laid that's the issue; it's the fact that they feel ENTITLED to getting laid, such that not getting laid justifies mass murder and suicide. The problem is not about sex, it's about misogyny.
The end about shooter so true so true bill hit it right on the head member being very close to these dudes super frustrated and angry.. Very angry and wanting to do something to show how bad I felt.. But then I got a girl and everything changed and now I am free and no longer carry that anger I just understand these kids now..
This is why I love Bill Maher.
This is why I don't hate him.
@@kgius7434 shut the fuck up already
He’s such a f**cking legend this dude, no wonder the democrat party wanted him to be their mouthpiece.
I think he's on to something with this one! I agree.
+megha sharma I have noticed that pattern, myself, but for some reason I never put it all together before seeing this.
+megha sharma Freud already covered this over 80 years ago!! Ever read?
+megha sharma Something must be wrong with you if you actually take this seriously.
It's certainly a problem were there's polygamy or serial monogamy like in US. In both such cases, women are attracted to rich and successful.
In Muslim countries a rich Saudi can have dozen of wives, while there are fewer women left for poor peasants.
In US, while it's technically a monogamy, many women will just divorce if their mate is poor and has little potential to make it. Than they'll just throw themselves into the arms of someone from top 1% or top 10% or at least top 50% (if she is not that marketable). Or into the arms of someone who has potential to make it to the top.
Then men from top 1% dump women all the time to get better ones. Since with money comes options. And so maybe top 75% of women are recycled among top 50% of richer and more successful men.
So bottom 50% of men are left to compete for bottom 25% of women. And bottom 10% of men hardly stand a chance.
So the effect with serial monogamy is the same as with polygamy. And the more unequal a country is, the more pronounced is this effect. But even in Denmark the chances for a successful marriage for the bottom 10% of men are not good. However at least the difference between bottom 50% and top 1% is much smaller than in US, so bottom 50% in Denmark stand much better chance of finding a mate there than in US where top 0.1 owns 90% of wealth.
+Mammal
Right on! Very well said. There is a very good book on the subject called "Men On Strike." I would recommend it, but you already have the idea.
he actually hits on a real issue. sexual frustration manifests itself in really weird ways. combine that with societies expectations, male bravado, and female sexuality constantly thrown in our faces, it's not hard to understand why we have so many crazy kids.
+ryan neitzel Every single that black people (and women) go through in America is due solely to the sexual frustration of white people.
+Arch5tanton I won't, I'm not white.
+Arch5tanton Because I won't go on a shooting rampage, I should leave the country? Wow, you're bent.
+Arch5tanton Thing is I got brown nieces and nephews under the age of 7, and, ya know what? THEY'RE the majority in their age group....better get fuckin'........that's an even worse problem, than anything else....white people not fuckin' as much as they should. THAT's humanity's biggest problem. the ones left ain't fuckin', and they're tryin' to exterminate the rest of us......man. grow a dick.
The world's problems would be solved, if white people just fucked more...
+Arch5tanton LOL, you're right. Then, sittown, shut up, and watch the sun set.
This needs boosting. Maher’s actually got something with this one.
Bill has once again hit the nail on the head with his last rule! So true!
Bill explaining what "incels" are, before the term "incel" was coined.
"incels" don't deserve any pussy because they gave up. Not how nature works.
Charlie Dillon no one's saying they do. Explaining an issue isn't the same as proposing a solution
Nah, incel was around way before this
the term was coined since the 1990's
@@forman208 90s
I think as a society, we need to have more appreciation for non-romantic love.
Romantic love and chivalry is borderline crazy. Women are almost always transactional in nature themselves and leave the doting and lunacy to the man to show their brightest feathers, or have to prove their salt to be worthy.
The definition of love: an intense feeling of deep affection
The definition of affection: a gentle feeling of fondness or liking.
The definition of fondness: affection or liking for someone or something
The definition of liking: a feeling of regard or fondness
One vague definition used to describe another vague definition used to describe another vague definition used to describe another vague definition.
Legalize prostitution, but ensure that pimping is illegal and strictly enforced.
david kayal but I want to slap bitches
It's unlikely to help, I suspect. Because needing to pay for sex still means that they'd feel like girls / women are still rejecting them...
Exactly! Have the police protect the brothels too
But thats to expansive for young poor men.
Legalized prostitution will help these guys minimally at best, and at worst give them a crutch to not attempt to improve themselves as human beings. They are in the grander scheme of things looking for connection and validation, not sex.
If sexual frustration isn't a category of mental illness then I don't know what is.
Well... Maybe all the other mental illnesses are. And also note that most women are sexually frustrated even in relationships and we don't go around shooting poeple
Finally someone says something about shooters that makes actual logical sense . Thanks bill keep up the great work man
"masterbation requires imagination .....but that's ridiculous" hahaha
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+Shreshtha Mani Choudhary Fucking love this post
+Shreshtha Mani Choudhary done
+KingDT2007 well you were quick..i would wave a white flag ....but a tissue is more appropriate. Bravo!
A cat will do.
+Shreshtha Mani Choudhary
Brilliant! And Hilarious!
Bill Mahr - The ONLY one who keeps it real.
Thank you.
That is so so true. And I would not so much point to the sexualization of the media, but to the attitude towards relationships in the media. Everything is about getting a partner and it is often implied that if you do not have a partner you must be a sad loser. I do like sexy women and I like to see them, but there must be a revolution towards an appreciation of an asexual lifestyle.
+Ernie Hudson I hear your point on teaching the appreciation of the asexual lifestyle (chosen or by circumstance), but we should also be teaching our brothers how to actually talk to girls and how to be comfortable around them. It's not like we're an endangered species competing to spread our DNA anymore. We can help each other out.
+MegaVolcano Yes, that can be also a strategy, but if somebody has a less pleasing physical appearance then he will have a harder time to get closer to women no matter of how much he is a smooth-talker.
He will feel more rejected in comparison to his friends and that in itself builds up frustration.
Ernie Hudson Shit dude, you haven't met my friend, Shayne. When I met him he hadn't brushed his teeth in years, was a dirty looking headbanger, and that dude to this day can talk the panties off of any woman. I took my cues from him. Be clever, keep them laughing, keep them comfortable.
Everybody asexual? That's like saying abstinence is the best thing to do. Many guys aren't comfortable around women because they have always been taught to put women above themselves on pedestal, if you could show relationships on a regular perspective way another thing would be. There is also the whole puritanism thing on relationships which leads to more confusion and frustration. Teaching a healthy view on relationships helps a lot. Other countries don't have this problems.
+Enrique Godinez This problem is not unique to the United States.
I am German and I lived as well for a long time in Britain and I have a lot of international friends.
The problem with guys getting girls is not a specific cultural problem, but just biology.
We are all programmed to look for attractive partners and women in general are even more picky than men, so if someone looks chubby or has not a symmetric face or is disfigured he will have the problem that his chances are reduced in every country on planet earth (except he is mega rich or there are arranged marriages) and that is a hurtful thing to learn!
And if you are rejected by the one you fell in love with that is even more hurtful and no culture in the world will ever change that.
And I do not mean people should live an asexual lifestyle, but the media should send out the message that you can be on your own and have a fulfilled life and there is nothing wrong with you and there is no clock clicking in the background. In almost every fucking movie the single person has to find a partner in order to be transformed into a happy human being. Bullshit!!!
Bil Maher- Always great! I admire his courage, because I'm sure he's made a lot of enemies.
My only caveat to what Bill said was that he simultaneously acknowledged the problem and then made fun of the ugly awkward kid for being ugly and awkward. There's something to being aware and accepting who you are, and not feeling entitled to women swooning over you, but at the same time that kind of 'he's a loser' attitude only feeds into the problem.
+Virtuoso80 He didn't make fun of him for being ugly and awkward. He made fun of him because of what he wrote.
+roscoegino yeah, but he did look rather ugly and awkward in the photo...
To be fair, those are your words, not Bill's.
It is. It's like he's saying "this is a serious issue...a serious issue that these sorry ass pathetic losers suffer from. "
They killed people, does anyone care about them? It was about preventing this in the future.
Don't take away the guns. Take away their reasons to kill. Take away their accumulated resentment. How about displaying kindness and compassion to someone who's obviously showing difficulty in socializing ? How about instead of laughing in a guy's face when he asks you out, politely say no and walk away without making him feel like a creep ? How about not bragging about how much money you have and just be grateful for it instead ?
+ninearthify "How about instead of laughing in a guy's face when he asks you out, politely say no and walk away without making him feel like a creep ?" That doesn't sound like you're blaming them at all. Not even a little bit.
By the way, there are millions of people who get rejected by someone every day and they handle it. Not every girl who turns these guys down is laughing in their face either, there are women who did politely refuse the shooter at one point who ended up being killed regardless. It's not the fact that they weren't polite to them, it's the fact that they were refused something they thought they deserved.
That's the difference between people who actually become mass shooters and normal frustrated people--the former feels entitled to the perfect life and seeks vengeance they feel is justly deserved when they don't get it. Most people aren't like that, they're able to get over rejection or bullying without killing people.
+ninearthify Sounds like a fantasy world to jerk off to... :P
+ninearthify Do you really think women actually laughed in these guys' faces? Your premise vilifies women unfairly. I'd wager even if they were turned down politely these men would have still sprayed the room.
ninearthify dont forget pussy
When you label yourself as a conservative Republican and try to date another conservative Republican you never gonna get a date it's one assholes asking out another assholes
Stop being asses and try being nice thoughtful caring nonjudgemental and just maybe one van get a date
This is essentially the "toxic masculinity" argument - that men feel entitled to sex with women and become violent when they don't get it. And he cherry-picks the examples of mass shooters (out of dozens) who had issues with women.
If you want to look into someone's social life predisposing them to violence, maybe look into how many friends they have. Maybe look into how the people they usually interact with are treating them. Sure women didn't pour affection on those weird looking guys, but how do you think everyone else behaved toward them? How often do you think any of those murderers got invited to a party or just to hang out? Sexual frustration can be hell to deal with. Most people know this because it happens to most people at some point. Loneliness is a much worse monster though, and it's hard for most people to relate to it since it's not something they experience to anywhere near the degree these men did.
Also, this is a piss poor example of assuming correlation implies causation. Women are the sex that does the selecting, filtering out the partners they don't want. The men they filter out are undesirable to them for some reason. The reasons range from simple things like height preference to serious ones like signs of mental disturbance. Gee I wonder if there might be a confounding variable somewhere in this scenario.
+Boss Ignostic really good comment, It totally makes sense.
Shit son, I wasn't agreeing with that argument; I was pointing out where Bill probably got it. Slow down a bit yeah? You went off half cocked.
No doubt about it loneliness is a trigger factor. A friend of mine recently posted that the best way she knows to stop school shootings is too encourages her child to talk to the kid at school that no one is talking to. Being a friend to a kid that may be socially awkward. Not saying that "not getting shot" should be the reason for kindness but creating a kinder environment will go a long way.
Left or right...it doesn't matter. Sexual frustration will drive men to madness.
well said
I seriously pity men
The one and only....an incredible mind and brilliant talent! Bravo
3:38-3:47 look at his eyes. Damn! It sends chills down my spine just to look at that guy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. How the fuck do you miss that?
Maher smashed the nail on the head with this segment
Wow, so true!
NAILED this one. OMG. instant classic.
I'm not sure it's sexual frustration as much as lack of connection. As much as we like to talk about how men are all about sex, I think it's more accurate to say that men simply value physical intimacy earlier in a relationship than women typically do (it's biological), but that ALL people really just want meaningful/valuable relationships with each other. These shooters almost always have very weak social circles. They become frustrated with their inability to connect, and it's a short step from those feelings to "finding someone to blame"... surprise surprise, they focus on the places where we all take our first (mis)steps in developing social skills -- schools.
Perhaps we should be helping kids manage social relationships better. Schools are still very much based around the factory model -- 30 kids come in a room, get their dose of training, move onto the next room, get their next dose of training, etc. However, each kid is at a different place emotionally, socially, intellectually, physically, and so on. In a typically American high school you've got kids in the same room who are emotionally 10, physically 18 with kids who are emotionally 25, physically 15. Individualization needs to accommodate things like emotional intelligence, where kids who are "loners" (especially those who don't really want to be) can get attention that helps them figure out how to make more connections.
+J R Yeah its definitely lack of connection. I was in the same big boat as all of those kids but I still had close friends from High School who were in my corner no matter how much sex I had and they didn't judge me at all. None of those kids had any friends at all, leaving shit they read and watch on the internet as their ONLY guiding force since their parents were so attentive. It would get to anyone.
I feel like the fact that you can choose to be a basement dweller and not directly get penalized for it is also a contributing factor. The fact that nearly half of men over 25 are jobless and live with their parents scares the shit out of me cuz it means they are getting polluted by reading shit on the internet all day. I mean shit I was running a 10 month dry spell until yesterday and I didn't hurt a soul. Why? Cuz I got other shit to worry about. I have school, a job, hobbies that I take seriously, etc. I don't have the time to hurt people cuz I got shit to do.
We should have like a "reverse curfew" where people are forced out of their homes for certain times of the day lol.
you are onto something here with your post. The social skills thing is true but it goes much deeper than that. at least 4 out of those shooters, possibly all 5 were on the autism spectrum. ( a pattern maher failed to notice)They had a subtle frustrating invisible mental impairment that prevented them or made it much more difficult to do just that . socializing . You are right on your points, but someone on the spectrum doesn't understand social cues or cant talk the subtle "language of socializing" . A girl may throw signs of interest verbal or non verbal, they may not understand. They needed to have been thought social skills other people learn without anyone teaching them.
Right on!
its both, sexual release and an intimate connection with someone
J R you're absolutely right. Fucking is a bandaid and solves nothing
Women have intuition and avoid crazy males.
Milo Yianapolous wrote about the same thing in his article on mass shootings
He probably wrote about gun oil too.
+Alex P
he mostly writes about black dicks and feminists.
+Seyi 116 Who? Oh, you mean that kid that's an utter pseudo-intellectual hack and troll.
*****
Found the right-wing serf and Freikorps member-in-waiting.
+AJ Beamish Wow it's like people can change their minds on things. Amazing.
Resentment is the answer. It makes people do horrible things
Time to legalize prostitution?
+Bob Cornholio I say why the hell not, what ever the way the powers have working don't seem to be right now so lets try a new thing for once. we may just be surprised
Fuck no. It's hard out here for a pimp! What? You want us to stop profiting off the work of the actual workers, abusing them and coercing them? Fuck you, mang!
+Zac Jay lowering sexual content is never going to happen in my lifetime. The more these maniacs are teased the more they'll snap.
+Bob Cornholio In live in Chile, here the prostitution is legal, don't exist pimps and the prostitute have a sindicate, really.
+Zac Jay the media needs to stop teasing or outlets (prostitution) need to be legalized. Humans are animals and when you tease an animal enough it will snap.
Bill, let’s talk about antidepressants causing these shooters! Under 25 yr olds are at risk of forming suicidal ideations. How far off could homicidal thoughts be if suicidal thoughts are possible? Both require a loss of appreciation of life.
Great point Bill! Not joking at all, if these guys could have had sex, I doubt they would have been mass shooters. Maybe the solution to spree shooters is legalizing and destigmatization of sex workers and their customers. Access to sex can't hurt and not only would have helped these men but would have also been a great way to stop the exploitation of sex workers by criminals and end another reason why people go to jail unnecessarily in this country.
Pimps have the same rights as prostitutes
Agreed 100%. I read, somewhere, when Australia 🇦🇺 legalized or at least decriminalized massage parlour "happy endings" there was a decrease in divorce etc
No, they would NOT be mass shooters, and that’s what makes these people talking about “gun” control so stupid. Like frustration only needs guns to express itself
I'm watching this in 2023 and it never gets old. Bill is a genius!
If only they knew there are women you can hire for that sort of thing
+Dakota Andrus
if only such a thing wernt illegal and had a horrible social stigma pretty much everywhere.
+Dakota Andrus Paying for it ain't the same. The only win is when she wants it too.
tfcooks Then why do rapist exist? I'm pretty sure they know their victims aren't going to be too excited about it.
Yukikazehalo Sould it be illegal and should there be a social stigma associated with it? Both parties consent and get what they want so I don't see a problem
Physical satisfaction and emotional satisfaction aren't the same thing. Rape is a act of violence "doing something to someone." Good sex is" doing something with someone. "
The Best Talk Show/ Comedian Ever........
Bill you're so right on the fucking money on this one
This could be one of the most pointed and (gasp) compassionate lists Maher has ever ever presented, particularly the connection between violence and sexual frustration.
Stop selling assault rifles to citizens. Assault rifles are for war against enemies, not for war on our neighbors.
There’s a massive difference between what you call and assault rifle and the type of weapons out military uses. Handguns are responsible for way more deaths yearly than your so called “assault rifles”
he's 'bang on' with this insight, it's the combo of social stigma with unfulfilled desire - either one separately should be tolerable to most people but when we are shamed for personal misfortunes it's creating a prison for the mind
well said!
Bill should play that now after the latest Florida shooting
Here we are again
Bill nailed it. Gun violence is down 50% from where it was twenty years ago, so any increase in shooting sprees is NOT about guns. It's about something else.
@ronnie van den heuvel If you take out gang violence, there are not that many gun homicides in America, especially considering we privately own about 400 Million guns.
Freud is like: "yeah, no kidding".
Many guys aren't comfortable around women because they have always been taught to put women above themselves on pedestal, if you could show relationships on a regular perspective way another thing would be. There is also the whole puritanism thing on relationships which leads to more confusion and frustration. Teaching a healthy view on relationships helps a lot. Other countries don't have this problems. Feminists have something to be blamed here as well.
+Enrique Godinez Ehh, I'd argue that the real issue is toxic masculinity. The idea that one needs to be a "real man", to be "tough", and "macho" is deeply corrosive and psychologically poisonous. Stigmatizing a man for showing any perceived sign of weakness encourages men who feel hurt to hide their pain by lashing out violently in tragedies like these, and it's high-time we acknowledge that fact and take action to correct it by reducing the stigma associated with expressing sadness or pain, and to do that we need to STOP telling boys to "man up" and STOP saying to "grow a thicker skin", and take a long, deep look in a MIRROR and admit that all this toughness is killing us from inside, and eating away at us like a malignant tumor until all that remains is a tough, but hollow, empty shell.
+Steve Chisnall Trouble is, women uphold Toxic Masculinity more than any man. Just read through ONE woman's magazine. Nearly all of them express intense dislike for men who have not "made it," who are sexually inexperienced, and who are socially awkward.
When the vast majority of women stop demanding that any man who tries to ask them out be perfect in every aspect of life, then there might be a change.
Joelsuf
Exactly you got it. Women always looking for the "attractive athletic perfect guy" and if you are outside the category for most of them they look down on you.
Enrique Godinez
I wouldn't say looked down on, just not dateable. It IS kinda on guys to accept that and look for chicks who are on their level of attractiveness. Any guy who has made the decision to not be at their best aesthetically and socially and still bitches about attractive women not dating him is delusional. And even still, dating is completely random and a lot of boys more and more have a big problem understanding that. That to me is the scary part.
That's how it is with me. I date average to below average chicks (from cold approaching/online dating) because I'm not physically attractive enough to get better looking chick, at least outside of a social circle. This is why it is SO important to have a good network of friends even if they are not close. You can meet chicks who are more attractive this way. Some of healthiest and successful couples I know are completely mismatched when it comes to appearance but just because they met at a bowling league or something they were able to get together.
It's kinda on women to at least be honest with the boys they are shooting down and to not judge them by how socially intelligent they are or how good they are at sex. But its kinda on men to realize that don't just deserve chicks for existing and to get some friends (and no this doesn't count people you interact with online).
Both sexes have a lot to work on.
+Joelsuf "When the vast majority of women stop demanding that any man who tries to ask them out be perfect in every aspect of life, then there might be a change" Pardon me for asking, but isn't the whole problem the fact that these shooters seem to be demanding that they deserve a woman who is perfect in every aspect of life. You said yourself that people need to accept their own looks/personality and go for someone who is on their same level, so shouldn't that apply to women as well?
Evolutionarily-speaking, women have always been the one who needs to be selective in choosing their mate, because they're the ones who carry the baby so their biological role has been deciding which mate has the best-fitting genes to create the strongest offspring. That's why women are turned on during ovulation and men are turned-on mostly all the time, if women were turned on all the time everyone would be fucking but it would be against the biological imperative to reproduce, if men were only turned on once a month nobody would ever fuck, this set-up is the best for a species to continue procreating.
So women are naturally more picky than men, but it's because sex for us can result in a baby so we want to make sure whoever we're sexing will have strong genes to pass down. Apparently when a person smells good it means their immune system is opposite of yours, which results in stronger immune systems in potential offspring.
Whereas men aren't as picky because for them the biological imperative is to spread their seed, they can't have their own babies so the chances of passing down your genes comes down to sexing as many ladies as possible to make their chances of reproduction greater.
That's where the whole "women are picky/men will fuck anything" stereotypes come from at least.
Brilliantly said!!
I shop at Walmart every few months, that is how long it takes me to forget how terrible my last experience in a Walmart was.
why was it horrible?
Bill hits the nail on the head once again.
The sandy hook killer is looking into my soul
Poster child for Big Pharma.
Adam Lanza is the type of person who given that picture should not have access to even a pair of scissors; let alone a gun, knives, pruning shears, hedge clippers, etc.
The problem isn't sexual frustration, it's the inability to manage it. Because most people just wanna have fun, they have no clue how to serve a greater purpose. And serving a greater purpose is the best way to manage many forms of frustration.
Maybe he's right Maybe there is a correlation. I mean look at Elliot Rogers. It's funny cause he was actually "man" enough to admit his issues with women.
Lmao, there was absolutely nothing "manly" about Elliot Rodger. Dude was the world's whiniest, entitled piece of shit
Dude couldn't even get laid driving a BMW. lol. All joking aside, nothing about killing innocent people, walking down the street, with handguns, on a college campus, resembles the faintest bit of manliness. This is someone that had severe mental problems that would've eventually taken out his anger on anyone, or anything, depending on his latest collection of insecurities.
@@Chrisicola he was actually quite good looking and came from a well of family. It was definitely a mental health issue that caused his inability to make friends or be in a relationship. He was also apparently autistic
@@ivanvoronov3871Who knows exactly. I think it was a combination of inability, and/or desire, as far as associating with others. Maybe he had an unnerving presence around others, or said weird s--t, or was an a-hole and didn't realize it (probably it). He was an average looking dude with a BMW in college-I mean if you cant get a date in that situation then there's serious problems. Most other guys at college have no money and eat ramen noodles 5 days a week. His problems were purely internal and he blamed and punished (killed) others in cold blood for his own demons. I mean that guy was like 20, right? Who's that pissed off at the world when they're 20 years old and driving a Beamer around the UCSB campus? Geez, if he thought life stunk then, what would he be like at 50?
It sounds like there's a similar pattern as serial killers.
It all comes back to sex doesn't it.
+RebelThoughts82 The only reason we exist.
"everything is about sex and sex is about everything else" -House of Cards
+Yukikazehalo I thought sex was about power?
+Yukikazehalo Ya, that's not the line. He says everything is about sex, except sex, sex is about power.
+RebelThoughts82
Yes, the bottom line on most human behavior comes down to the fundamentals. Sex, power, survival...the core issues that make us who we are.
I come back to this every time we have a mass shooting 😂
so when a hot young teacher sleeps with a 15 or 16 year old student, she may be saving lives?
Sometimes, yes lol
she's probably sleeping with the one that gets a majority of the action anyways, not the weirdo in the back
No because she inevitably chooses the "stud" anyway, reinforcing the tropes to the average looking kids that even their teacher is off limits to their fantasy.
@@nocheteipsum stop feeling sorry for yourself. Some women prefer nerds or men who aren't chads. I am an INTP, so 'chads' are a turn off - unless their IQ is over 130. Stop worrying about what *most* women want and focus on the type of women who like your type. Even if that is only 1% of females - do the math- there are millions of females on the planet. I had a hard time meeting men I liked in my rural area, but found some willing to drive hours to see me - I either found them online or met them in a metro area. Stop being *re*active and start being *pro*active. There are women out there who are lonely and would love your company - if you release your bitterness towards women- no body wants a sour friend.
@@genkiferal7178 Excellent point! I was trying to be facetious....must have come off cringy.
this concept is epic...never thought about it in this light. it really makes a lot of sense
Bill said what everyone was thinking about those damn Carl's Jrs. ads. Also, even when you're not a waify model you'll not be left in the mood after eating one of those things. More like an itis and major dump afterwards.
After a year. This still holds true.
Maher is in the right ball-park, but on the WRONG base. The real problem is deeper than mere sexual frustration. The problem is machismo. The whole notion that a "real man" has to be tough and never show any weakness, and that to show any weakness even for a single moment is to fail at manliness. The TRUTH is: we ALL have some form or other of weaknesses, and nobody is completely free of vulnerability. Initially when boys express that they feel hurt, they're inevitably admonished to "stop being weak", to "man up", to "grow a thicker skin" and to "toughen up", but no matter how much one tries to be tough, there ALWAYS will be SOME-thing that can get through all that armor. When a believer of this machismo "philosophy" is presented with this unpleasant reality, they see no other choice but to lash out violently, in a desperate attempt to hide vulnerability behind a façade of aggression, as we've seen from these mass-shootings. The root of the problem is a culture of toxic masculinity that constantly promotes shallow, almost fetishistic worship of brute-strength, and simultaneously ridicules and even outright stigmatizes traits like mercy, sensitivity, caring, and compassion, as being "too girly".
Another case of truer words never having been spoken.
You really did hit on an important point of view in this broadcast, and it should be studied further. Sexual energy and frustration can be infectuous among younger men, and it certainly can lead to violent acts. Congratulations of discussing a neglected "fuse" subject.
I have been saying that for years. Definitely a factor.
Thank you for saying it Bill, I've actually been suggesting the sexual frustration link for years now, but some, especially feminists, just don't what to hear it. I legitimately think there are a lot of suffering young men out there, and it is a problem, and not only do we not offer them support, but we shame them and marginalize and make fun of them.
WELL SAID! SPOT ON!
4:20 here i Las Vegas, I know Bill will appreciate that
I live here too
First! OK I KNOW THE DRILL I'M OUT!!!!!
This is a brilliant point!!!
Well let's be honest. It's fundamentally unnatural for human beings to make it into their 20's and never having sex. That's a relatively new thing because of less death and greater security found in civilization. However our brains are still wired as we were ten thousand years ago living in small tribes with partners either chosen for us by our parents or being self selected pretty soon after we hit puberty because that was basically your only form of entertainment. Today we have school, work, video games, books, etc and yet it's not what our brains and bodies had adapted to so once again it's a case of us being too sophisticated for our own bodies.
Great thought on this
I will never be able to enjoy key lime pie again. LOL
He makes a good point but I think there is a bigger picture here he is not revealing. How does this culture effect the FATHERS of these boys? Does everyone notice that these shooters' fathers are never interviewed? Moreover, do you all also notice that the mothers are? it is a psychological fact that the majority of traumas to boys are directly related to their relationship or lack thereof with their fathers.
This country has another epidemic that I am witnessing in real life. That is that many fathers are leaving their families to fulfill their carnal desires in the most entitled way. In other words, men in their "midlife crisis" seek the superficial American dream of being a Playboy. Boys are being raised by their mothers and fail to learn on how to be a good man because they have no ethical male role models to learn from. As a result we are dealing with their awkward offspring who can't relate to women and to society as a whole for that matter. The evidence is look at the divorce rate in this country in decades. It's been on the rise.
The man speaks the truth. Plain and simple.
When Bill said that nobody is talking about this, I got excited. But nowhere in this segment did Bill mention that these men - sexually frustrated though they may be - are NOT ENTITLED TO US WOMEN. If you want this aspect of cultural rot to improve, then parents need to do a better job of raising their boys to respect women. A loving relationship is something that both people must earn. Bill, I'm a little bit disappointed in you. This segment had so much potential, but it left me with emotional "blue balls". #YesAllWomen
+April Shattuck The familiar tired refrain. Do you realize that men might actually take it seriously IF all the bimbos who dropped their pants to Flynn, Clooney et al. had instead rebuffed those men by reminding them not to be "entitled", lol. You can't have it both ways girls: you can't selectively grant "entitlement" to some men and scornfully deny it to others, any more than people's right to a fair trial should depend on the size of their bank account. The safest and balanced way is to say that yes, men (ALL men) aren't entitled to promiscuity, but likewise women (ALL women) aren't entitled to jump up and down and file bogus harassment charges simply when someone they happen not to 'fancy' expresses an interest in a relationship. Also, time to go easy on that hashtag as it's dead easy to stick a few unflattering words after it by way of generalization.
+April Shattuck Okay. Respect all women, since they deserve better treatment than men. Your Klan uniform is running pink. You are a walking stereotype of female supremacy. Don't dare call yourself a feminist, you'd be shitting in the backyard of the National Organization for Women, a group that actually made progress and that my mom was a proud member of.
No one's entitled to shit except death and taxes (or just death if you are jobless and pay no taxes). Men aren't entitled to sex with chicks, and chicks aren't entitled to support just because they have vaginas. Its sad to see that your version of equality is women getting back at men.
frank jones
Those "evolutionary needs" have been downplayed tho. Nowadays it is totally possible to be a basement dweller who just goes on the internet all day without consequence. Its not that men "can't" have a mate, they just don't want to have a mate who isn't as attractive as they want.
That is the reality of the situation. Boys who see themselves as dateless and sexless are that way because it is a choice. Granted, it is a choice that becomes the default because the temptation to just hang out at the house and interact with people online is very great, but it is a choice nonetheless. But hookup and PUA culture tells them that they should feel like they are in prison because they are dateless/sexless.
Most of these basement dwellers place the responsibility of their sex lives on women. They have no idea that they are giving their power away. But the way this culture talks about sex so much, it makes them paranoid. I wouldn't be surprised if half these school shooters have developed schizophrenic traits from all the shit they read on the internet.
When people of both sexes stop judging men by their laycounts and by how socially intelligent they are, that's when we are gonna see progress.
William Baric
So teach boys to be gay? Nothing wrong with that I suppose lol, less competition for me I guess haha
William Baric
Oh that makes sense. I think you kinda went overboard with the not even holding the door thing but yeah I agree. Never a good thing to put chicks on a pedestal.
Bill has a similar one to this called “Armed and Lonely”.
Should probably keep an eye on the 28 people who disliked this video so far. Me thinks they be repressed if you know what I mean, and I think you do. ; )
They're definitely repressed, but my guess is it's for the opposite reason: my guess is that they're feminists.
If anything, I'd guess they'd be MORE likely to like this video.
It's probably Evangelicals who cringe when anything remotely tangential to human sexuality is brought up....
Soooooo True!!!
These guyz need to unload!
Too bad the Pareto Principle within female sexual partnership selections makes resolving this issue pretty much impossible.
+Yukikazehalo It doesn't have to be "resolved", it simply has to be reduced to the point where young men don't go into schools and shoot people.
+Yukikazehalo Nonsense. You're talking about the familiar 80/20 rule where roughly 80% of effects come from only 20% of the causes.How do you figure this applies to female partner choices?
+PrometheaRising I think he's saying that 80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You could say that the vice-versa is also true, but in the end, the woman is the one who makes the choice, not the men.
+AgeOfSuperboredom "I think he's saying that 80% of women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You could say that the vice-versa is also true"
You could say a lot of bullshit that isn't true.
Alternamaton What's not true about it? It's pretty obvious that only a minority of men receive exceptionally positive attention and desire from women, but eventually everyone settles for what they can get, which is usually not what they want the most.
That damn Burger King ad.. 😂❤ Bill nailed it
we need to teach women to put out more easily
If my college experience is any indication, they do put out... a lot. Just not to these types that end up on shooting sprees.
the problem is that autistic people like me or the shooters need special teaching on how to talk and interact to learn what a normal person does not need teaching on. how easy was in your college? what college was it by the way?
They do put out easily. Just be cultured, intelligent, and get some game.
very astute observation , again...
"I dont know that anyone ever said 'sex sex sex, thats all I ever do, where's my gun, I'm mad at the wordl"
I dont know, thats kind of what genghis khan did.
Genghis Khan wasn't mad at the world. He wanted to conquer it, probably because doing so would ensure that the flow of women would last forever.
Gregthegamer he is a different kind of murderer than these lone crazies though. and when you think about it I'm not sure Genghis could ever attract a consenting woman based on his own glimmering personality
Bravo Bill Maher! Men’s Rights, this is an issue people need to start talking about to begin addressing some serious problems in society: mass shootings (100% male), homicides (80%+ male), and suicides (80%+ male). For thousands of years, men’s sex drive has propagated our species, and then over the last 50 years as society evolves with more equal rights for women, we are suddenly asking young men to turn-off their sex drive that has evolved over thousands of years. We need to start providing advocacy groups for Men’s Rights so young men do not feel disenfranchised.
Doug Medina Wait, what rights are you referring to?
Legalize prostitution problem kinda solved.
this is a problem with many determinants to it -- sexual frustration is one element.. but there are many others.. its simplistic to reduce this to even being mostly about sexual frustration.. each case has determinants that weigh more or less heavily on the end product.
its true, ive seen the change in the last 30 years, if this country was having more sex, and not making sex bad or using it as a tool of manipulation, folks would be a lot happier, less arguing, less frustration, even things like less road rage, etc. , yes its true
I've somehow always connected the online bullying with the violence
We need to stop Chad.
Nah, y'all just need to git gud and improve yourselves. No Chad started as Chad, they all started as Virgins.
Unfortunately this has aged incredibly well
Such a good point about sex
Very good points, Bill!
Bill your explanation is worse (well just as bad as) than; "... because Marilyn Manson".
Just saying it is definitely more to it.
+Peter Smythe It makes for good talk show; but it is very naive and limited.
+Peter Smythe You mean Charles Manson. He is not the first person to suggest this, it has been well documented, lots of books written on the subject. People just don't want to admit it. But it is true. What do you think happens to young men who grew up sheltered playing video games with poor social skills, from unsupportive families when the time comes to meet girls-non of which is there fault, you can't fault a child, but now they blame society who they think is responsible. It is not magic, use common sense. Many will suffer through it, other will go to drugs and drinks, few will join the army "Generation Kill", and few will commit atrocities. If you takeaway the guns, the crazy ones will find something else.
+ponder2006 Well Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, Metallica, Eminem, others; have all been blamed for "causing" incidents of school violence. To me that is just such a cop out explanation, and so is; "because they didn't have sex".
The fact that they are not having sex is the result. Most of these guys are antisocial, They have hard time making normal friends, having a regular conversation with people. As they grow to adulthood most of that anxiety and frustration is focused in to having a gf which they can't, they haven't developed the skill to have even a guy friend, all those people you mentioned didn't have a normal childhood, but they found an outlet in Music. Listen to Eminem's lyrics you understand his anger and pain, music saved him. Even if these guys paid for sex, they may still end up angry and frustrated even worse because, now they realize even sex can't remove the anger, social anxiety they feel inside. Bill nailed it, in that he underlines the boiling point which is Sex. The root cause that made them not have a friend to talk to is the real problem.
I’m seeing this now, but I believe it. I still watch the show. Most the mass shooters looked like they needed a little lovin… then the mad house.
The problem here is not getting sex; rather, the problem is misogyny. I'm surprised that Bill did not identify this trend as misogyny, an exemplar of the real danger that patriarchal values pose to the lives of women. I'm also disgusted by many of the comments on here that seem to suggest that we need to find a way for these young men to get more sex, rather than condemning them for letting their denied sexual urges amount to killing sprees. Trust me, women have just as strong of a sex drive as men, and there are plenty of sad and depressed women who can't get laid because they're not attractive, but you do not see this kind of violence being committed by these women. It's not the fact that these guys can't get laid that's the issue; it's the fact that they feel ENTITLED to getting laid, such that not getting laid justifies mass murder and suicide. The problem is not about sex, it's about misogyny.
Exactly what I thought when I first saw the Carl's Jr commercial -- where did they find a model who actually eats at Carl's Jr???
the burka joke floored me LOL
Don't know if I fully agree, but it's certainly and interesting point.
“Their BALLS!” -Bill Maher 2015
The child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth - African Proverb
You don't have to agree with Bill all the time, but is really smart!
Bill Maher is a genius.
The end about shooter so true so true bill hit it right on the head member being very close to these dudes super frustrated and angry.. Very angry and wanting to do something to show how bad I felt.. But then I got a girl and everything changed and now I am free and no longer carry that anger I just understand these kids now..
I know about the mental health aspect I wasn't aware of or didn't think of a lack of relationship aspect to these crimes
Bill is 100000% correct on this one, what a damn legend.
"IT'LL BLOW your mind away"