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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Will we ever see a time under 1 Minute on Big Blue 200cc?
Today, I discuss why this sought-after barrier on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's most popular track may never be broken.
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Just uploaded a new video where I analyze the current World Record on Big Blue! :D th-cam.com/video/8Zz6bOWkyms/w-d-xo.html
Imagine if he did get sub minute during the video though
MEESTER TREESTER SIGHTINGGGGGFGGGGGGGGGFHUYGBRJ
Classic Meester moment.
“and yea i just don’t think it’s gonna happen like- OH MY GOD”
@@WordanBordan😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing lik
4 years later:
The history of Big Blue sub 1- Summoning Salt
not impossible, depends on whether or not people are still grinding this game enough in 4 years from now
@@mkalpha_ considering the popularity of the entire mario kart series I can see it
well the only super active games are mk8dx and mkwii sooo not sure
@@mkalpha_considering mk7 is phased out in the multiplayer sense yet there are still huge TAS records being set, definitely
That would be amazing
Leaving my mark here for when the WR is beaten and they make videos about it
Oh the WR will certainly be beaten, no doubt
Same
Me over here thinking it was a single lap time 💀
After the Lap 3 pace break, there actually is a shortcut that might save time. After the first hairpin turn in Lap 3, you can actually drift off the track, hold down on the joystick and cut off a corner. Please try it.
I remember trying that out a while ago but to no avail. Who knows, might be worth investigating a bit more though. Thanks!
Nintendo next update: hey guys we are increasing no gravity stats by 100000 for all karts
imagine haha
In my experience with speed running, the hardest thing to do accurately is set the human limits. I have seen people completely shatter the barriers of what we thought was possible. The best guesses I have seen are TAS’s, and that can only be trusted in the simplest of games. All this to say that I will only ever doubt speedrunners on this track if there is a TAS more than 0.1 away(and even then I wouldn’t be completely certain)
That's completely fair. I think sub just seems closer than it actually is. It's like saying we will see a sub 50 in Super Mario Odyssey. Is it possible? Probably not, it's super far away. But who knows what will happen in the future? Big Blue feels similar to that imo. Thanks for sharing your opinion though, I respect it :)
@@mkalpha_ we didn’t think sub hour was possible but the BKS is a 53:1x
You can't really compare that though
Exactly, personally speaking, unless you have physically put a TAS on this track then times will be continuously broken. The fact that this track still shaves off a few hundredths of a second easily each time still makes sub 1 a conceivable target, even if it could take another few years to do so. The biggest question is whether MK8 is still supported by then.
Famous last words
It's more realistic for Big Blue to sub 1:00 as a retro track in the future lol
haha probably
Do you think a 59 will ever happen?
Btw, if you wanna see me go for World Records live, make sure to check out my Twitch! :D www.twitch.tv/mkalpha_
Gute Besserung! Und ich glaube nicht, dass das passieren wird.
@@fabian_133 Danke!
Quit gatekeeping your sub 1 minute strat (unless it was a troll)
We may never know
@@mkalpha_ I'm going to cry
It’s nice hearing a pro’s thoughts on this because I love this track. I don’t really know what im doing and I literally learned the section 1 shortcut like yesterday. Good luck grinding
Good luck my friend & thank you! :)
To put it simply, I feel like "never" is a pretty strong word. Don't get me wrong, the current time looks insane by today's standards, but like you said, players have gotten a lot better over the past few years. It seems logical to imagine they'll continue to get better as time goes on, and eventually, we'll see the 0:59 (even if it's far out of reach for now).
Fair point, I get that perspective. I just feel like it's further away than it may seem at first. The current World Record is a 1:00.393, so roughly 0.4 seconds away from sub. For reference: it has taken 4 and a half years for this track's WR to be brought down from a 1:00.816 to the current time (roughly the same time cut that is needed now). MK8DX isn't even 7 years old, so that's way more than half of the the entire lifetime of this game. In that time period, motion glider was introduced, 2 balance patches were released, multiple different combos have been used, ~10 small strats have been found, etc. just to make this time save happen. In my opinion, big changes like these are just not plausible anymore in the future. Small strats may be discovered, though I highly doubt they save more than a few frames at most, just because of how much time people have put into finding new stuff and falling short regardless. The majority of the Top10 on this track plays Big Blue nearly every day (no joke), yet the WR has only gone down by 9ms in the past 5 months. We have just reached a level of optimization where it seems unlikely that 0.4 seconds can be saved. As mentioned in the video, it would take something like a MASSIVE strat (similar to the ultra shortcut in section 2) or a new balance patch (unlikely, but knowing Nintendo, not impossible), for it to be sliiiightly realistic. That's just my take though, I respect your opinion. (and thanks for the comment btw :D)
@@mkalpha_ For sure, I get what you're saying. I guess we'll just need to see. Either way, this video was a cool analysis, and thanks for the reply 👍
@@beanzard64 Thank you so much, means a lot coming from you :) Definitely hoping that I will be proven wrong one day!
In my personal opinion, if a sub-1 minute is possible on this track, then it is currently out of human reach. "Currently" being the keyword.
The world record on this track is extremely optimised and any timesave from now, unless some crazy update or strategy happens, is going to come from tighter lines or extra mini-turbo. This sadly isn't like with 150cc where we can use Waluigi or Roy to get a better time, their speed stat is too low and we already maximised the mini-turbo distribution on this track. I only have a 1:01.941 on this track and that feels barely out of reach for me, even when trying my hardest. Then again, I'm not a top Mario Kart player, so this is probably just a skill issue for me (I cannot do the low path ultra shortcut in S2 yet).
Even if TAS were to be used on this track, I don't see much improvement there either no matter how dangerous the driving is, like on Yoshi Falls in Mario Kart Wii. A 1:00.1 might be as close as it can get. An idea that MIGHT help is to use a faster combo, which I can only imagine to be Cyber Slick (increased anti-grav over Crimson Slim), but that doesn't give enough mini-turbo to use for the shortcut in S1... as far as I know anyway.
As you said, I would love to see someone prove us wrong. But I think it's completely impossible.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, would love to see TAS here, doubt it would save much though. Some of the BKS already look like TAS ngl, dont see it shaving off more than a couple frames in all honesty. Even a 1:00.1 would be super hype though
Slicks and Slims have the same antigrav speed, so that option's off the table too
@@SirBookwriter Another idea, Kusaan slide jump at the end of S3?
Leaving this here for when sub-1 is reached in August 2024
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I'm here super proud of my sub 1:05 on Big Blue with all the shortcuts but boy do I need to optimize to reach that 1:00! Seeing you play and fail and stuff felt so relatable, think I might try to pick up some pointers from this video on how I can improve.
1:04:4xx on Luigi, Crimson Slim, Mach 8, Paper Glider
Dope, good luck!
Thanks for making this, you’ve now quaranteed it will happen eventually
Just improved my PB by .3, I definitely Need to learn that shortcut in Lap1. I’m hoping that there won’t be major improvements in the WR because I want to get it😅. Love the daily uploads, keep it up master alpha 😊
Good job!! And good luck on the grind! Trying my best, thanks :)
I kinda hate how everyone is "oh, people called this impossible, and that was proven wrong", but it is honestly pretty brave to make statements that can only be proven wrong. It should only be taken seriously if that person has
1. Actually tried doing it.
2. Is experienced about the subject.
3. Understands how the times of other people develop.
And after getting 1:00,xx time, after talking how 1:01 was a huge deal, all of these boxes were checked of.
Especially in contrast with with all the commenters who say it is actually possible (without trying), I can only have respect for thoughtful videos like this.
The only substantion addition to this video would be a TAS, and those sadly don't exist (yet?), for this game.
Thank you so much for this comment
We'll only know once tasing mk8dx becomes a thing
fair fair
It could be soon with some modding
It has been done with Mario Maker 2 so why can't it be done in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
@@MindlessMagic there are only very limited tools iirc, also i didnt know smm2 tas was a thing
Its lik i said if we modded Mario kart 8 deluxe it could probably be done
I hope we can someday get a TAS of this track so that we could confirm whether or not sub 1 is possible.
I would love to see a TAS happen as well! If I had to estimate, I would assume that a TAS would clock in at around 1:00.200 or so
wäre krass wenn so etwas passiert wie bei super mario odyssey. wo alle gesagt haben, dass ein sub hour speedrun nicht passieren wird, und der weltrekord jetzt auf einmal bei 56 minuten ist. ich hoffe aber persönlich auch sehr, dass ein sub minute run passieren wird, weil würde gerne den hype sehen
hab daran auch gedacht, aber finde das schwer zu vergleichen. bei einem spiel wie super mario odyssey ist halt viiiiiel mehr potential, neue strats zu finden, und mario kart 8 deluxe ist halt auch schon fast 7 jahre draußen mittlerweile
@@mkalpha_ das stimmt, wir müssen einfach schauen was auf uns zu kommt (was ist wenn du den ersten sub minute run schaffst)
@@prodjxm_ true. wäre toll, definitiv :) man darf ja noch träumen!
@@mkalpha_ und smo war auch noch eher neu als gesagt wurde, dass sub 1h unmöglich wäre. Aber dBB hatte in 8dx schon bald 7 jahre optimisierung
Oh so you're german@@mkalpha_
Hörst dich nicht sehr gut an, wünsche dir ne gute Besserung! :) Hab da gestern auch erst dran gedacht ob 59 possible wäre, aber ich denke es wird extrem schwer, ohne neue strats auch nicht möglich. Und maybe kommt ja mal wieder n balance patch der dann helfen könnte, mal sehen. Jedenfalls gutes Video! ^^
Danke sehr! Mal schauen was die Zukunft bringt :)
Yeah, they always say that. Then it ends up happening. Remember when we thought 4:54 was impossible in SMB, a game that was without a doubt already optimized?
I'm sorry but that's just not comparable. A 4:54 has been humanly possible for years, TAS has proven that. A 59 on Big Blue isn't. Something being unrealistic doesn't mean it's impossible (SMB) but Big Blue is just that: impossible. At least with the strats currently used.
Too bad the tas dynsyncs for this game
Big Blue has been my favourite track since it released as DLC for the Wii U version in 2015. It would be really cool to see a 1 min or sub 1 min run someday, and while I do agree with you that there will probably be no more new strategies that save enough time, but I would also like to hold out hope for the future
I love Big Blue as well and am also hoping for a Sub to happen. I guess we will have to wait and see! :D
Yea and sm64 carpetless will never be viable… In all seriousness though I think you’re right, Mario kart is a much more linear and refined game which doesn’t leave much room for new strategies. But who knows maybe mixing the old ones up will be the future of the track idk
I don't know... carpetless has been doable with TAS for years. Sub 1 wouldn't even be possible with TAS. It's just comparing "humanly impossible" with "actually impossible". Will we ever see a 120 run be done in 10 minutes? No, because it's not possible. Same for Sub 1. I guess we will just have to wait and see though
It'll happen, just you wait
Dude, has anyone ever considered driving on the rail at the end of lap 2, after the big gap jump, instead of dropping down on the road? And what about collecting one more coin at the beginning, so you have 10 earlier? And what about trying every single strat possible with every single combo? And what about TASing the game?
Sub 1 is possible, I’m telling you, but it will not be easy.
Driving on the rail isn't possible unfortunately, and getting an extra coin isn't worth it either, you would have to waste too much time on the coin panel and you just dont make up the lost time until the end of section 1. We are pretty certain this is the best possible combo, and if there is something slightly faster (which is highly unlikely), it wouldn't be by more than a frame or two. TASing the game though.. not sure, the first few TASes in this game were made just a few weeks ago, however it is unlikely we will see a TAS for a full run anytime soon, especially on a track as complicated as Big Blue. Pretty sure TAS wouldn't be able to get sub 1 either though
I would love to say that Sub 1 is possible too, trust me, but as of right now, it's simply not. Sorry to say it :(
@@mkalpha_ Speedrunners have beaten portals without portals. Nicroveda has beaten mario odyssey in under an hour after saying himself that it wasn't possible. Some others beat every single Elden ring and dark souls games damageless in a 19 hours run, after years of struggling. Mario bros speedrunners got as fast as the TAS speedrun of their game. Branden beat Trials of death after 7 years and 4500 hours of daily tryharding. Sub 1 minute might be impossible with the current techniques and knowledge of the game, but I can promise you that in a few month or years, if speedrunners don't give up, new routing and improvements will be done, and this 1 minute barrier will, in someway, happen to fall. That's what speedrunners always do, they always prove the impossible to be possible. It's only a matter of time.
I'm sorry but I think you have been watching too many Summoning Salt videos lol
A Big Blue Time Trial isn't comparable with e.g. a Super Mario Odyssey speedrun, just compare the length, tricks, level of optimization of both of them..
Look at the amount of time that has been saved on the Big Blue WR in the past couple of months and years, it's not even remotely comparable to a full game run or whatever
And things like Trials of Death were never actually "impossible". Beating games damageless isn't "impossible" either. Are they incredible hard? Absolutely. But there is a difference between incredibly hard and just impossible.
Look at the 100m Sprint for example. Will we ever see a Sub 9 there? No we won't, at least according to people that have done studies on it. Why? Cause it just isn't possible. Same reason we won't see a Sub 8, Sub 7, Sub 6, etc.. you gotta draw the line somewhere.
Or let's compare it to SMB speedruns. Yes, people have matched the TAS. It's crazy. But does that mean we will see a 4:53? No, cause it's not possible. A Big Blue TAS wouldn't be able to get a 59, similar to how a SMB TAS wouldn't be able to get a 4:53. So why would we see a RTA 59 on Big Blue?
The only way I could see a 59 happening is, as I said in the video, with the discovery of a new game- / trackbreaking strat. I doubt it will ever happen, but if it does, who knows what the potential is. What I'm trying to say though is that with our current knowledge and strats, a 59 just isn't gonna happen. Sorry man
@@mkalpha_ I don't watch summoning salt, and the examples I exposed are not the proof that sub 1 is possible, it's the proof that hundreds of thousands of trials, years of failing and learning, really often happen to give results. And to respond to the example you exposed, about 4:53 not being possible in SMB, it actually is possible, since a few month, and if you asked any pro smb speedrunner, back in 2023, if 4:53 was possible, they would tell you that no, 4:53 was absolutely impossible, and you can't deny that. But maybe you're right since the beginning, maybe sub 1 minute will never happen, but only time can tell, and I am 100 % sure that people will keep playing mk8dx for years and years, letting a lot of room for improvement.
I mean yeah in the end it's impossible to predict what will happen in the future.. I do think there will be improvements made on Big Blue, I just doubt it will be enough to shave off the required time to grant a Sub 1. Would love to be proven wrong though
Once there will be a finished TAS of Big Blue, I think it will be a lot clearer where the true limit of this track with our current knowledge roughly lays. Until then, we can only speculate
And I didn't know about that SMB thing, my bad
Wow, impressive skills you got there.
I like to think there's a hidden trick somewhere in Big Blue undiscovered.
I'm pretty sure if there was undiscovered stuff, we would've found it by now.
A lot of people are desperate to see a sub-1 being in the realm of possibility so this track is being squeezed very hard, until it is bone dry.
Now 1:00:393, saved 0:00:006 seconds, as of 30/03/2024 in UK and 03/30/2024 for US.
Will update over time
(This record was set 1 month ago.)
when tas will be developed i think 1:00.1 will be possible
Auf das Video habe ich 6 jahre lang gewartet
Du klingts wie ne alte Kassette! 😛
Finds krass wie die Zeit seit ich Mario Kart tryharde um .266 verändert hat... Das ist quasi nichts, aber für diese Strecke halt viel. Wenn man bedenkt, dass die Framerule entfernt wurde und Kombos gebuffed wurden ist es aber doch relativ wenig.
Es wird halt exponentiell schwerer mit jeder Millisekunde.
Ich finde jemand sollte ein WR History Video zu dieser Map machen. 🤠
Sorry, bin krank haha
Ja, Big Blue ist da schon sehr eigen
Don’t tempt fate, Alpha… people just may prove you wrong.
Certainly not impossible haha
Someone needs to invent TAS tools for this game already, just so we finally know what the theoretical limit of this track is
Even still, I doubt the limit would be a sub 1 without major strat discoveries
That would be insane, too bad its not gonna happen anytime soon
It's been 4 months. There is now a sub 1 minute run
nope
@@mkalpha_ Really? I thought I saw one, but now I can't find it and I'm not sure anymore
@@mkalpha_ Either way, people said that sub 5 min was impossible for the original Super Mario Bros, and now it's been shaved down to 55 seconds
i am also sick welcome to the sick club
I hope you get well soon!
But I want a sub 1 Madge
Me too D: Guess we will have to wait and see
I think it might happen in like a year
Sub 1 happened like half an hour after this video got uploaded lol 🤦🏼♀️
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We need new strat finders
just use more speed trust
You deserve wayyyyy more subscribers❤
Thank you so much!! :) Means a lot!
Wait, didn't nintendo completely change the car physics recently? Why would you discount them making another drastic change in the future which will bring the record, even potentially easily down below the 1 minute mark? If I were a betting man, whether or not it will get sub 1, I would bet it would eventually, simply due to nintendo continuing to power creep the game, which is already an established pattern for their company. But anyway I will still watch your video more because I'm curious on what some gameplay looks like, rather than simply trying to answer the question of whether or not the record for big blue will eventually be sub 1m.
Well, they did change some stats but it was only in combination with new waves being released. All waves are out now so I think it's unlikely they will bring another update, considering MK9 is probably on the horizon. Despite that, the balance patches didn't change Big Blue dramatically either, only ended up saving a few frames (if even). I talk about this possibility at the end of the video though. Thank you regardless! :)
yup, you eventually got there, saying that if the record goes sub 1m it's going to be things outside of driving better, whether they release a new update, or strategies with a new combo actually save time.. Well, thanks for sharing, I'm glad to know a bit more about Big Blue now!
Sub 1, October 17th 2024. Calling it right here
TASes (if they get easier and more popular on nk8d
Only Captain Falcon can get the sub minute.
you simply dont believe in me Master Alpha
my bad
Sag niemals nie,in Mario Kart 8 Wii dachten wir es würde niemals ne Strecke mit sub 1.20 oder so. Jetzt haben wir Auf jeder Strecke 0.01 Sekunden (😂)
its so funny because almost EVERY TIME someone says "x is impossible" in speedruns, someone eventually achieves it. sub 1 might be impossible right now, but there will most likely be someone in the future who does it. the only times where someone says that and its actually impossible is like, for example, in the original mario bros. since we have the minimum time possible calculated, it is literally impossible to beat that. but for something as complicated as mario kart, theres no chance we have the minimum possible time calculated, therefore until we know that there cannot be any more time saved, its best to shy away from "sub-1 is impossible!"
You can't compare single track time trials in Mario Kart with speedruns of full games. There is just a lot less potential for big timesaves. 0.4 seconds may seem like nothing but on a track as optimized as Big Blue, it is an incredibly huge amount. Also, if I were to say "A sub 10 minute time will happen in Super Mario Odyssey Any%", it doesn't mean that it actually does happen. It's just not realistic. Same thing for Sub 1 on Big Blue. Trust me, I wouldn't make a statement as bold as this if I didn't know what I was talking about
@@mkalpha_ refer to the later part of my statement.
also, you definitely can compare the two, they take basically the same skills, especially on shorter games like the original super mario bros. on games like mario odyssey as you mentioned, theyre much longer so theyre harder to compare, but on super mario bros. even theyve had many times where people have said "x is impossible" and then a few years later they were done. and super mario bros is probably THE most optimised speedrun out there.
im not saying you dont know what youre on about, clearly you are very good at that track (one of the best as shown by the leader board you threw up a few times), but just keep in mind that its very hard to actually pin point the human limit on ANYTHING. im also not saying that sub 1 will happen, im not well versed in this category so i cant say whether it will happen or not, but considering its rare for someone to say "x is impossible" and be true for realistic goals.
the triple weathertenko on mario kart 64 is a great example in a mario kart game where people said doing it was impossible, but then it was done. its not a 1:1 comparison as that is a difficult trick that skips the entire track as opposed to big blue where you still have to play most of the track, but its still an example.
the thing is that sub 1 is not a realistic goal. i totally get your argument but i honestly disagree. those things you mentioned were all theoretically possible; improving in smb1 was theoretically possible, triple weathertenko was theoretically possible, etc., but even a TAS wouldn't be able to get sub1 on big blue, im certain of it. yes, we are still far from the human limit, as i mentioned in the video; i definitely see a .2 happening in the future for example. but the time cuts on big blue are just all rather small. a .1 cut is considered massive on the track, yet we need to save .4. what im trying to say is that sub1 is way, way further away than it might seem at first
@@mkalpha_ as with all speedruns, the next barrier is always further away than it seems. however, mario kart 8 isnt a solved game, at least not to my knowledge. you dont know the minimum possible time for this track, no one does as it has so many factors going into it. its not an unreasonable goal because to say that saving .4 seconds on an unsolved game isnt unreasonable. saying that about super mario bros IS unreasonable however, due to the fact we know the exact minimum possible time. thats the big difference here. if we can find the best way physically possible to beat big blue, then saving any time beyond that is unreasonable.
as you mentioned, there are ways to save .1 seconds, and maybe .2, perhaps with these methods performed, new ways to save time could be found. im not saying that we will be able to save .4 seconds, but im saying dont discredit the idea just because no one has tried yet. there could be some extremely obscure save that no one has even thought to try which saves *just* enough time for a sub-1. im not saying that the save definitely exists, but i think its silly to say it definitely doesnt.
fair enough - i cover that last point in my video as well. i guess in the end there is no definitive way to know without just waiting it out. thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
They said a 4 minute mile was "beyond human capabilities". then it happened.
my bad ukulelevillain4170
Hey alpha , is it you with the various Mk7 records? I’m just really curious because I always loved watching those records
Unfortunately not, they are French, I am German, sorry! This is me: mkwrs.com/mk8dx/profile.php?player=alpha
@@mkalpha_ I just saw how optimised the Mk7 records were and thought it was you 😂
@@minibang2543 Haha sorry 😅 They are insane though!
is there any hope for sub 1 on the TAS scene?
tas isnt a thing for this game, but if it was, i highly doubt it would get sub 1
Hi Alpha, nice video to watch. Btw, is there a general rule of thumb of when motion glider should be used in 200cc?
Hey, thanks! ^^ Motion Glider is usually effective when you can hold a drift into the glider. Big Blue is an exception due to the way the cannon works. :)
Thanks for the reply!@@mkalpha_
I actually meant 200cc tracks in general, not just on big blue@@mkalpha_
I mean sometimes I see the 200cc wr just tricks of the glider, but sometimes the wr performs motion glider. In 150cc, I think wrs always use motion glider(except from Shy Guy Falls)@@mkalpha_
@@mkalpha_ Wii Rainbow Road is too!
well speak for yourself, i think sub 1 hour will happen!
Man muss ne komplett neue strat erfinden um 59 zu bekommen. Btw geiles Video.
Denke ich auch. Danke! :)
The limits never are where you think they are
waiiiiit, are you *the* remy from the mario & sonic series?? whats up :D i guess we just have to wait and see!
Yoo, yes I am! I saw you also apear a few times in some rankings. I never knew that was you. Ive been basicly playing m&s for my entire life but I also enjoy mario kart! Just havent found the time yet to grind down mk8dx, but maybe soon
@@RemyMS wooow, what an honor to meet you here! yeah i play a bit of m&s, though admittedly its been a while since i grinded one of them. would love to see you try out mk8dx, if you ever need help lmk :)
@@mkalpha_ TYSM! I am honored too, this gives me a lot of motivation to play! Btw do you have discord?
@@RemyMS Awesome! Of course, it's mkalpha_ :D
Has this track been TASed yet?
TAS isn't a thing for MK8DX
Why is Mach 8 used more than Ink Striker in time trails?
Mach 8 has a more favorable hitbox for most tracks
Never back down never what?/?/
NEVER GIVE UP
It'll happen
Well, I guess we will have to wait and see!
Also, if TAS is available with frame by frame input, is there a chance that the sub could be achieved?
Hard to tell since there has never been a proper MK8DX TAS, no idea how much time you could save. In my opinion though, I doubt that TAS could even reach a .0, I would estimate the limit to be around a high or mid .1
Im gonna have ask my friend to make the tas fix
Nice idea❤
danke :)
can't wait for a huge skip to be discovered in the next half-year
would be sick but seems unlikely
@@mkalpha_ I just said that so if it does happen I can go "I PREDICTED IT!!!!!"
Waiting for summoning salt
maybe if sub1 does happen haha
I'm not nearly skilled enough to say my opinions, ive only played 200 hours of mk8dx an my big blue pb is 1:5.550 but it is interesting to see what people can do.
Nice time! :D
@@mkalpha_ Thanks
I’m 280 and I have a 1:08💀
@@fatdinosaurfood8059 Well I did play big blue 200cc somewhat consistently.
I was wondering, how many hours have you played MK8 deluxe?
8.2k roughly
@@mkalpha_ WOW! That’s what it takes to be so pro 😉 and you say roughly 1k hours on total time trials, or just big blue time trial? 😮
1k on Big Blue alone! I would say I spent like 5-6k of those hours on Time Trials probably
@@mkalpha_ Mind blown. That would probably drive me mad 😂
As someone who has wanted to kinda get into time trialing, how do you do it for hours and hohrs and not get bored
Play at your own pace. If you feel demotivated after 30 minutes, then stop after 29. Setting realistic goals for yourself also helps to keep your motivation high longterm. I might make a full video on this soon actually! GL on your Time Trials ^^
Counterpoint: the second you put decent effort into proving something impossible, it happens. I give it a few months
Good video tho! Very entertaining and informational
So... if I try to run a marathon in 5 minutes it will just happen? I don't think that's how it works... but thank you so much! :D
People who had no clue what the title meant before clicking on the video:
Can you make a video about how to get better on mario kart?
Believe it or not, I got a video that you might enjoy coming out very, very soon! :)
"sub 10 minecraft rsg will never happen"
I'm sorry but these two things just aren't comparable. Sub 10 has always been theoretically impossible, whereas a Sub 1 on Big Blue isn't even possible with perfect gameplay (at least with the current strats used). IIRC there is a Minecraft TAS that clocks in at 20s or so. Saying a Sub 1 will happen on Big Blue is like saying a Sub 10s time will happen in Minecraft, it's just not doable, even with TAS.
while i was watching the video, my eyes kept drifting on that one boost ring while ur falling midair, is there a way to activate that ring while midair to shave some milliseconds?
Good idea but unfortunately not, I would say. In order to even hit the ring, you have to go pretty low, and if you do just that, you won't make it over the fence. Not sure if it would even save time in the first place
@@mkalpha_worth a shot though? id say that if u do hit the ring, you would probably get around the same time, as hitting the ring would get a burst of speed, possibly making up the time from not going over the fence. This probably requires testing but im pretty sure other ppl have thought of this idea sooo
@@rsnnramlall9642 i mean.. you have to go over the fence, otherwise you wont make it onto the road.. but i guess its worth a try
That’s what they all say
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I'll TAS this
gl then
You can do that?
@@RealSilGaming nah
mkwii players trying to find glitches in 8 disagree
would love to see a proper ultra shortcut here, seems unlikely though
probably by disabling lakitu somehow
The sub 1 is possible as a sub 2:50 in Red Ball
No. TAS has proven that a sub 2:50 is possible a long time ago. TAS wouldnt even get close to sub 1 on Big Blue. Also, Red Ball has a lot more potential for new tricks and timesaves to be discovered. Thats just not the case on Big Blue
@@mkalpha_i wonder what the fastest time possible rta is
According to the current BKS it would be a .281 I think. I think the human limit with the current strats / combo is a low to mid .2 maybe, .1 would be really, really pushing it
@@mkalpha_ 1:00.1 could be theoretically possible but TAS could probably 1:00.175
maybe
Sub 1 is possible I’m sorry, we just discovered stuff in ocarina of time a few years ago. There will be another discovery I just know it.
there just isnt potential for big skips like those in OOT when the track is literally 60 seconds long
There will be another discovery? Go discover it.
Ah yes, say „sub 1 will never happen“ with no context to what game
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@@mkalpha_ the only reason i clicked on this video was because i didnt know what game you were talking about when i read "why sub 1 will never happen".
@@emanwonkon2205 To be honest I never expected Non-Mario Kart Players to watch this video haha, but I guess the Big Blue Track picture on the right could be an indicator
@@mkalpha_ i didnt recognize what th ehell that was
@@emanwonkon2205yeah let’s just ignore the thumbnail huh?
if sub 1 happens you have to make a video of you eating your words
sure
how the hell do people get below 1:30 wtf
Looooots of practice!
@@mkalpha_ you big blue runners are insane at this game keep it up
The fact that you have to use a shroom at the start may mean…..
would be great if we could use it somewhere else, seems unlikely though
@@mkalpha_ yea, it might also mean a new combo too due to the slow start without
Which would likely make it slower
what does the tas look like
unfortunately tas isn't a thing for this game :/ maybe one day
Soon
Just cheat, then any time is possible
big brain
やれるさ、俺たちなら
Let's do our best!
Geiles Video
Something something Celeste sub-30
you cant compare a massive platformer like celeste with a single track in a racing game. the possibilities for big timesaves are completely different
@@mkalpha_ I'm referencing a copypasta here, not as much the actual achievement
my bad haha
I hope the 1000 hours is supposed to be a joke because that is just not true, I bet my life savings you have under 100 hours on it
well paypal me your life savings then lol
@@mkalpha_ it’s not true though
how do you know how many hours i have then? i used to hold the world record here, the grind for that alone was near 1000 hours long, spanning over 11 months
@@mkalpha_ 1000 hours is a 9-5 job for 6 months. If you spent 11 months that’s over 3 hours on one track every single day.
yeah and? 3h a day really aint that much all things considered, i didnt play any other games / tracks during that time except a few short breaks
Current wr is .36
Tbh it will happen