My Sony MDR 7506 Headphones (and why I don't use them)
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Love to hear your thoughts on this type of comparison. SHould I do more? I have a whole bunch more pairs of cans that I can compare this way.
Booth Junkie Not a fan of these headphones either. I perfer the Cad audio Sessions mh510. (My favorite headphones)
Please do, we miss your content. For my taste you sounded way better in RAW , V-shape on this Sony Headphones made the treble really offensive to me. I'm so glad that I never bought them. Personally Like the KRK 8400 (they need a good amp tough) and Shure SRH 840. Keep up the good work!
Yeaaaa. Can u do beyerdynamics dt 770 on different ohms mayb?
Thank you Mike!
I love how you approach this subject. It is really challenging to pick a good pair of cans for mixing or mastering decisions. I would love to see and hear (of course) next video of yours in wich you can ttry a few cans for mixing /mastering scenario.
God bless.
Sani
Please do.
The secret to a good mix is knowing your monitoring devices, not loving them.
While that statement by itself is true, if that was your take away then you missed the point of the post completely.
@@edcarey2435 he's right
@@edcarey2435you don’t have to love how they sound but if they hurt for long periods then people who it hurts best not to use. For casual use sure but if a professional you are using it constantly 35-75hrs a week that can add up. For me it’s just important the headphones don’t add any extra stuff to it like raising the low or high frequencies to make it sound “better” can cause bias while monitoring or mixing which can cause issues on other speakers and headphones. But comfort is an important factor but everyone is different with different size heads and ears so can’t really generalize a review solely on comfort. But if it hurts his ears yeah he shouldn’t use it.
Really good point.
I’ve used the Sony 7506’s for 40 years, in on air radio and pro commercial production and would like to offer my 2 cents worth. Nothing beats them. I’m talking pro voice work, not Beats thump. When you want accuracy and detail the MDR 7506’s are incredible. They are used by more audio production pros than any other cans. I don’t find them too bright or too bassy. Often I’ll mix down using just the Sony’s - I trust them that much. In short, delivering final product based on what I hear in these headphones gets me a lot of praise and steady income.
Thank you! I did buy these, and they've been my reference for recording and mastering. I needed to hear this.
I'm listening to this on my Sony MDR-7506s
Literally listening to your video wearing these headphones.
This is a great idea for a series, there's surprisingly little good material on "pro" headphones, never mind samples you can actually hear. Super ingenious system you have there.
Also, thanks for addressing the comfort level of these. I got the ATH-M40x a couple of months back and they're still uncomfortable to wear more than an hour at a time, to the point where I feel I really need to do something about it, whether it's new pads or just new headphones (which I can't really afford or justify right now).
I needed new pads on both my 7506's and M40's, in both cases it went from only being wearable for an hour or two before hurting too much, to almost never being uncomfortable. It's worth the 10-15 bucks for new pads, by far.
@@SCrowley91 What kind do you recommend?
@@SCrowley91 did you just buy replacement 7506 pads and then it became comfortable again? Where did you buy the new pads from?
@@joebell3016 I'm pretty sure they were from amazon. They weren't stock ones, the material and shape is different, and the padding was a bit thicker, and makes them more comfortable. (and they seal better)
I don't remember the brand, and I have different pads on each headphone. I actually got rid of the m40s cause the audio technica bpsh1 that I use for everything else is close enough. And has a mic.
I use the DT 770 Pro when recording and editing/mastering to make sure I'm consistent for doing Audiobooks and other voiceovers -- I have others, but for comfort, love these Beyerdynamics, as I'm editing for hours at a time! Love Mike's channel, and have learned a lot from him 3 years ago when I started my "other" job of doing audiobooks, and other things as well !! Great Stuff Mike!!
I love my Sony MDR-V6 headphones, which are very similar to the MDR-7509. Very comfortable for long periods, reasonably flat frequency response and surprisingly durable. While I do mix with them from time to time, it is extremely important to always take a break from the headphones and review your work on studio monitors that also have a flat frequency response. Before I got my monitors, the bass in my tracks was always overpowering because I was trying to make up for the lack of bass in the headphones. Don't always rely on the cans.
Very Interesting.
I got some extra thick pads for my MDR-7506 cans which widens the soundstage and neutralises it a little overall. I also added (don't laugh) makeup removal pads right over the drivers as they were coming in too hot. The result being that they sound the same in the booth or in the editing room and I can wear them for 1000 years without getting tired.
I do agree that they aren't ideal mastering headphones but the reason is that they were made for movies and on-location recording (hence the long cable and industry royalty status).
So it makes sense that the headphones would divebomb the midrange a little so the on-set audio guy can make sure everything is being captured cleanly for a later delivery at around -12Db rather than -3Db.
Basically, these headphones are not made for the kind of work we're using them for. I find them that much more impressive knowing that they do a pretty decent job even though we're comparing Oranges and Elephants :)
Awesome video as always, Mike :)
Where can I get those pads ?
@@xk964264 Brainwavz HM5 pads. Go for the memory foam over the velour. Should be available on Amazon. Mine are bright red ^^
Thanks, Mike. The 416 captures a rather scooped sound too, so I wonder if a more neutral or flat mic would be better for this series. Love the concept and appreciate your thoughtfulness in assembling the signal chain.
A good thought. Thanks!
Yes, perhaps the Rode NT1 or another microphone with a more flat response curve would be better. Good suggestion!😊
I own the mdrv6's and they definitely sound like this. I can't afford great monitors yet so as long as I mix using reference tracks, it usually comes out good. I just have to consciously eq and mix based on the coloring I know the headphones are adding.
It's interesting how the sound shifts but I do want to state the obvious for the one person that hasn't thought of it... listening is a personal experience and what you listen to this video with colors your perspective of the test. If you listen on $3 ear buds, the'll never sound great and you'll have a false impression of the sound quality. If you are listening on Beats, you're hearing the sound of the mic thru headphones that sound a certain way picked up by the ear microphones that pickup a certain way and then thru your Beats. If the headphones you're wearing overly colors the sound or doesn't jive with the headphones being tested, it can give a false impression of the sound. Mike did a great job with his test but sadly, there's no perfect way to test headphones without listening to them. Great presentation as always Mike!
P.S. If you want a simple way to modify your headphone cable length, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/53Nco-0uSwQ/w-d-xo.html
Also, don't forget that sound quality is subjective. What some people view as good could differ from others.
I replaced the ear pads on my MDRs with really huge pads that fully surround my ears, and now I can wear them for hours without any discomfort. And they sound more bassy as a result. I think sometimes bad pads is all it takes to make it a bad experience, aurally and physically.
To really make anything of this it would be nice to hear the the 7506s compared to another set of headphones, not just the raw audio. It's hard to discern what differences are due to your headphone recording rig and what are coming from the phones themselves.
That's a good note. Maybe I can add my reference HD380 pros as a "control" group in future comparisons. I';ll noodle on that.
That would be very handy. I want to hear what a set of headphones you describe as sounding good sound like through your headphone recording rig. I would have a much better idea of how the 7506s are letting you down.
My mindset is that you should never EVER rely on a single set of cans for mixing. Certain headphones are great in certain ranges but terrible for the rest.
I use the 7506 to check on the treble and the clarity. If it sounds harsh on it, its going to sound stupidly harsh on the rest of my headphones.
I use the SHP9500 for bass. If it sounds muddy on it, its going to sound muddy on everything. I also take the time to check the imaging of whatever I'm mixing on these since its an open back.
I use the Takstar Pro82 to listen to the vocals if applicable. Check to see if the vocals are tuned properly or if there are some parts that need a bit more boosting.
I then finally use the BossHifi B8 as the last headphone to check because its very colored. If it sounds good on it, then its ready for rendering.
Also, people have this misconception that if a certain equipment in the industry is standard, that means it sounds very good. Its standard because its what everyone uses. And since its what everyone uses, studio A will probably hear the same things studio B hears so there's this semblance of compatibility. It makes working on the material easier. Tom Scott explains this far better in his video about the international tea standard. Just because its a standard doesn't mean its great. Its a standard because this is what everyone can agree on.
I still think everyone should get the 7506. Its really cheap, doesn't take up too much room, incredibly durable, and you get to have a probable reference point as to what 'standard' sounds like. The cable is crap, though, so I would mod it a bit to not have that annoying telephone cable thing they have. :P
I might buy this pair for gaming and monitoring my violin.
Totally agree and reinforces what you’ve said previously about the need for two types of headphones. Love your passion, never lose it.
Why "raw audio" id few dB louder? It's not fair comparison as louder is usually perceived as better.
It feels like it but the Sony MDR has less mid frequencies so it sounds more quiet.
*Just watched this video using my Yamaha HS8 monitors. Wow - all I can say - wow - what a difference. Thanks Mike !!!*
I've got the 5's and the hs8s. Love them!
Wow... what a difference between the raw audio and the 7506! Listening on my Shure SRH440 cans, the scoop is clearly audible. I must not be one of those disco-smile enthusiasts, because I thought the raw audio sounded considerably better. I'm definitely looking forward to this series! If you're taking suggestions for cans to review, I'd love to hear the Beyerdynamic DT770s - both the 80 ohm and 250 ohm variants to see if there is any difference in the audio output.
Oh! Wow, I have srh440 too! And now I am looking for a replacement but no other closed-back headphones seems neutral like those. Did you find something? I have tried AKG K361 really nice thing, so detailed and pleasant lows, not agressive, but vocals seems little bit lower and it was somehow not comfortable for my glasses. Now I am testing mdr 7506 and like it is not bad, but I am not convinced and if I can see those differences, it is really weird. So I am thinking about testing DT 770 80 ohm and ath m50x but I am not sure if it has some meaning, are they trying to be neutral at least?
Shure has made a new updated srh440a this year. But sadly the sound is totally different I have read. :/
There are also new headphones from Rode, but I saw some complains about them too.
So like really.. what to do? I cant buy srh440 again. I would like better build quality and also I thought highs are little bit lower than they should but as I heard some other headphones, srh440 seems perfectly now :D
@@PecikCZ Hey! May i know what did you choose? I can't decide between dt 770 pro 80 ohm, m50x and akg 371...
@@anton5381 Hello! Soo... I have tested those I wrote earlier. Then I tested KOSS Pro4S too. Those were weird, maybe just my feeling or a bad piece.
I would suggest not to buy any without testing before or if you are not able to return them.
It is hard to tell because dt 770 and m50x I didnt test myself. Well K371 I didnt test either but K361 I did.
I have ended with another srh440 because that sound is the best for me but they are really not comfortable at all.
You should definitely test yourself those you were writing. Well... K361 sounded nicely, I guess 371 should too. So if you dont use glasses and you dont need high noise isolation then it could be a really good choice.
@@PecikCZ Thank you for answering. I bought dt 770 pro 80 ohm for studio working/casual listening. I'm not impressed, looks like V-shaped tuning is not for me... I needed something durable and i also use eq so I'm kinda ok with them. Dts comfort and durability bought me at the end, will definitely consider buying more phones, so it's not a big deal. Peace :)
@@anton5381 Ye, so with eq those can be really nice!
Problem with srh440 is comfort and durability :/
And have you tested m50x and akg too?
I like what Quincy Jones used to do on all his projects. Edit for both the large and small speaker. For every short and long form production we work on, we listen to test mix on an iPhone and or Samsung, ear buds and in-the-car. If you're not judging audio against these environments, you're not considering how the listener is consuming your content. The old Fletcher-Munson Study, commissioned by Bell Labs years ago, is good reading in this regard. Thanks Mike for getting the discussion started.
Super awesome setup Mike! This is a series I'm definitely looking forward to! :D
I have no idea who you are, but you must be the new voice of my inner monologue.
8:05, after replacing the wire twice I decided to try and add a jack so I can just switch out the cable. It's way easier than you'd think, and it works really well!
Hey Mike, you labelled the raw audio vs. MDR backwards on the video. According to what we see on the video, the raw audio sounds 10 times better. BTW your doing a great job! Keep up the good work, we really do appreciate it!👍
That was the whole point of the video, the raw sound is much better! The headphones are changing the eq.
@@ParrSharr Nope, you need to watch the video again. He claims he sounds better through the headphones, not the raw audio because the headphones have a built in EQ curve
@@BobbyBooshayRadio Yes in his head, in the booth he sounds great but the raw audio we hear is correct and nice and clean.
Gosh I love to hear my sound. So this headphone is what I am looking for 🔥🔥
YMMV, but these are are my desert island headphones across multiple applications including VO and music production both in and out of the booth.
The sound of the headphones is so remarkably inferior to the raw audio, I am wondering if the binaural setup isn't significantly degrading the audio being fed through it. It will be interesting to hear identical raw vs. headphone comparisons being made with other models. I have a suspicion that comparing multiple headphones to each other, each being fed through the same binaural setup, will give us a better basis of comparison than comparing each to raw -- in other words, headphone-to-headphone rather than headphone-to-raw.
Good note. Thanks!
Some additional thoughts. Since my original post, I have listened to this video again, this time with a pair of Technics RP-DJ1200's. The headphone audio was much less harsh this time, and the raw was even a little muddy! The first time I listened, I was using my Sony MDR-7506's. So I am wondering if listening to audio recorded from a pair of 7506's being played back through a pair of 7506's isn't somehow exaggerating (doubling?) the already harsh trebles of the headphones.
Anyway, I use the Sony MDR-7506 headphones because they are a ubiquitous and recognized industry standard. I've heard many claim that the crystalline trebles of the 7506's enable engineers to hear even the slightest sibilance and every little mouth noise, and that if a recording can be made to sound good in these headphones, it will sound good anywhere. I believe it.
Yes let's hear your mastering headphones next to the7506 and the raw please.
Thank you for the video- it has helped me make an informed decision, I thought I was wrong about the headphones not being great for editing and you showed how they are not good for that. (I'm really pretty amazed at the difference when you switch back and fourth)
I've used an infinite amount of different headphones throughout my VO career and I always fall back to my MDR7506.
Theses are made for sound and music production and not for normal consumer usage (thus you can still use them as normal headphones) . They are made to sound as neutral, flat and balanced so you actually hear what has been recorded so you can adjust your RAW sound as you want it to sound. Consumers headphones enhance the sound with frequency modification with extra bass, dynamic compression and etc. You don't want to use headphones that *cheats* what you are actually hearing for your records since your sound adjustment will be based on your type of headphones. EX: if you use a pair of sony extra bass headphones for your mix, you won't really adjust the bass since it will sounds good as it is, but with the MDR 7506, you will hear that you should actually put a bit more bass and lower some treble. Since the MDR 7506 have clear mids and highs, spotting any imperfections in your recordings like too much gains and distortion will be much noticable so you can adjust your recording accordingly. These are made for adjusting your sounds and that is why they are widely used in sound studios. You don't really need those for voice over, singing, drumming while you are actually recording tracks, but when comes the time to mix all your tracks and do sound work, thats where they shine and are actually are made for.
These have been my standard RADIO headphones for well-over 25 years. Before these, I used the AKG K240 headphones. THANKS for the very informative vid! :)
I'm a professional live audio engineer, and live use is where these are really meant to exist. That translates to why you're ok with them in the booth, but not at post-production. In Live audio, we like the clarity these give to the high end, as it helps us identify feedback, sibilants, and such forth. In PA mixing land, we're looking for clarity in the mid-range and low-highs to come through so that our audience will clearly hear the show. We know the bass will muddy itself up in the room regardless of what we do, so lows aren't as important. If the audience gets a nice 8k squeal, that's worse than unclear lows in live audio. They're also used because they pack small, are freaking tanks you just can't kill, and most importantly for live audio: you can flip a can backwards to press a single against one ear for PFL easily. I would not, and do not, use them for post-production editing though, precisely because of their response curve.
I personally use a set of their older cousin, MDR-V6's, for computer gaming because of the midlevel clarity, and a propensity for them to de-emphasize the low end booms. They're 12 years old, I'm on my 3rd set of replacement muffs, and I just can't kill them. I can hear vocals clearly, and not get too lost in the background noise. (I also personally find them super comfortable!).
So, as with all "professional" headphones, know what they're for, and use them accordingly.
For the price under $100 MDR7506 is a steal. With solid build, compact factor (does not need ridiculous case and it can fit jacket pocket) and good sound quality might be not a winner in all applications, but can do decent job in the most of them. For pro work one should probably go above that price range. I also do not mind attached cable (some cables I have for AudioTechnica and Sennheiser are not interchangable so I decided to keep it connected all time)
Very practical advice 👍🏻
Love the ingenious setup for simulating the different cans!
Hi Mike. Bought a used set of Hd380s on your recommendations. OMG I totally love them. Very good on the HAM radio too. Savage cans man.
Yeah, they're really sweet once you find the right spot on your head. A fraction of an inch forward or backward can really change them up. But they are sweet.
@@BoothJunkie I got them for the equivalent of around 100 bucks, so I was quite pleased. I just had to replace the pads as they were flaking. The sound man, the sound
I change the pads on my Sony MDR 7506 for the PREMIUM Brainwavz Audio
EARPADS - MICRO SUEDE .......Now these are fantastic headphones with the new pads
Hi Mike... I'm a long time Booth Junkie Junkie... love your vids. Yikes I've been mixing for many moons with the 7506 cans!!! Now that you've convinced me that I should use them in the booth instead... which cans would you recommend for control room mixing? Thanks
I would've asked the same question!
I'm in the process of starting some voice work. I'm at the stage of just learning what I need, how to get started, and what to expect. And already I find your videos very enlightening. Thank you.
You're definitely right about the inaccuracy of the Sony's. However they work really well on revealing issues, especially on location work (with lots of noise etc.) so they have their place in the audio world. If you're a one man band, doing the recording and voice-over on your own I would not advise these cans. If you do the recording yourself however and the voice-over talent is in the booth they can be very inspiring for the talent and therefore work really well to get a good result! So it really depends on the situation in my opinion.
Mike- I've been a hardcore 7506 user for over 30 years in broadcast radio. I have many pairs, all in various levels of wear. In fact, I watched this video using my most comfortable, beat up, leatherette-less, wonky set that have learned to fit my big dumb head perfectly. I have never given in to the argument that these color the sound that drastically. I liked the way they sound, and found them to not be fatiguing (bothing in comfort and sound). That was always what motivated my choice.
Then I watched this video. Holy crap. Maybe it's because I was listening on my battle-worn 7506's... perhaps that amplified the result. But holy crap. The difference cannot be denied. I've been lied to. By my 7506s.
I still love them all. They all tell a story. But I now know they tell that story with an exaggerated accent (I imagine Italian).
I will now begin the painful process of retraining my ears for mixing on something more neutral. Thank you for opening my ears.
-Clay
Superb… superb…really.. understood and enjoyed as well😊
I love my 7506's, but you are absolutely right, they make everything else sound dull or even muddy. I guess ill have to start looking around at others
I still use my MDR-V6 headphones (a predecessor of the 7506) that I purchased in 1989. I've replaced the earpads only once.
hello after one year the sound changes ? some people say after some times there is less bass and more trebles .... is it true ? :(
I've been in radio production/imaging 25+ years. I never mix with headphones on. I'll do the "Motown" mix with the headphones off my head, sitting on the desk and turned up so I can hear, or I'll mix through the cue speaker, which is the better way to do it. I love the 7506s... that said I'd like to try the Beyerdynamic 770s
Imo the Sony’s sound good, but I think the raw audio brings out the depth of your voice more. You definitely sound like you added compression with the Sony’s. I can see why you wouldn’t want to monitor with those from an accuracy and realistic point of view. I can make things sound better in post. I’d rather headphones that dont enhance my voice, or at least give the illusion of it.
ye they are renouned, but for tracking. the 3dio kinda wrecks the signal tho it sounds more lofi than I assume they actually sound, at least in the highs
Thank you so much. Very educational as timeless.
I'm a huge lover of using a pair of Shure SRH440s as my main pair of cans.
Have to say I vastly prefer the raw audio on this, both listening on my headphone and on phone speakers, not sure if it’s just louder overall?
Used them in broadcast for years and loved them. Koss pro4 AAA too. HATED those Koss but the lifetime repair guarantee was Kool.
Thanks for doing this, Mike. I love your test rig!!
I can't stand these headphones, but that's because I am an engineer who does critical listening of voice actor's audio and creates mastering chains for them. Everytime I am at a client's studio and slap a pair of these on my head I cringe, it's like the "icepick in the forehead". I have clients who I know for a fact have damaged their hearing over the hears wearing these headphones. Some can't use anything else because they all sound muffled to them, and that's because they've lost a significant amount of mid to high end frequency response.
This is so confusing listening to this with the MDR 7506....I love these headphones personally. The "raw audio" version sounds great on the MDR 7506.
Great review.
Mike, when are the other videos for headphones coming out? This is very interesting.
Excellent video Mike. I want to hear things as real as possible so I know what really is being changed in post or by DAW plugins (effects On/off). My headphones are not the best, but they are doing it all (in the booth & editing) well enough. Looking forward to more info.
I love this Mike, thanks. I'd love to see this sort of review with the DT770 pro 80 ohm's (I know a lot of VO artists who use those, including me). I didn't go with the 7506's because they're uncomfortable, they squeak if you move too much, the cord is ridiculous, and I feel like it's all treble all the time - but they are in every studio I've ever worked in. Anyway... great work, love the show.
Very interesting topic, Mike. I realy would like more :-) Especially i would be interested in comparisition between the traditional (and expensive) pro grade cans and and some low budget ones like Samson SR450/SR550/SR850 for example.
I've used the same Sennheiser HD 203's for about 10 years, they're very honest no scooping
7506 are fantastic for booming with a mic, and for film production sound. You hear every low rumble and all the extreme high frequency stuff, so you can fix it before you record it. But yes, no use at all for mixing. Thanks for all you do!
They are nice to cross check the midrange, sort of NS10s in a cans form faktor...
Hey Mike, first off Great video. I'm using the MDR-V6. On the outside they look similar to yours (except mine has a red sticker that says Digital) but I don't get the two different sounds. What do you think of these?
Very interesting setup you have there, that is a great way to give us the information that you want us to have( and hear). I thought that the audio level was lower on the Sony headset's sound but I think Urisk has the better reason for the sound being muffled. Great video, thanks...
Good demo, thank you. I used to have those 'phones but they had too much bass for me. Fun, but occasionally annoying. I'm using AKG K 701s, I think they're quite an honest headphone.
Wow...very interesting. Never thought that headphones can actually alter how you're hearing your audio when editing. I use those headphones for both recording and editing. It's definitely something I will take into consideration for editing. Thanks for another great video, Mike!
Keep in mind that if you're just editing for content, removing re-takes, clicks, etc any phones will be fine. If you're "mastering" and making EQ choices then the color of your phones matters, especially if you're mixing music.
I think the vast majority of the editing work VO artists do is content editing, in which case get the phones that are the most comfortable.
On a side note, Sony headphones seem to have an issue with the foam cushion flaking off. Every one of the Sony cans I have flake. I end up having flakes stuck to my skin after using them. It's the outer skin, if you will, that peels off the cushion. Just passing along this tidbit.
And those annoying little wires on the earcups get caught in the yoke that holds the cup.
Beyerdynamic EDT250 velour earpads actually fit 7506's. They're a little tricky to install, but they fit.
You have it backwards man these headphones are for mixing and not tracking. That's why they have a flat response to give you a true sound of your mix. As a producer and musician i can tell you these headphones are great for mixing.
i agree with what you say.
they do miss the mid region to me and i'm not much for mids usually. they do sound warm and cup nicely. the price tag is very reasonable. the v6 is good.
love this series idea, any chance will you try some 600hd's or are you going to stick with studio headphones (closed backs etc) -- never stop uploading! cheers!
I totally agree with in the booth they are great but in the control room they are god awful lol. They are like the sm57 of headphones so they should be hanging around in any home project or large format facility. My go to closed back right now are the Focal Listen Pros which replaced the spirits and I used the Listen pros and Sennheisers HD600 in my control room. Thanks for sharing your point of view on the 7506s!
Its weird hearing this video again now that i have the MDR 7506
Somehow I am hoping that some of the back and forth between 7506 and raw audio are volume matched.
do this with the hd380 pro! I just got them and I HATE them - painfully aggressive in the mids with no bottom end - would love to hear what others think! the DT770s I have are SOOOO much more detailed with far better clarity. but I'm thinking about getting DT-150s just so they completely encompass my ears (dt770's still clamp the ear lobe and touch the outer ear if that makes sense - not on-ear but still in contact and still eventually uncomfortable)
Hearing is believing. Thank you for this!
Awesome!
I have a pair of 7506 and feel something like you said - sound fells good but monitors say 'nope boy'!
I really waiting to replace them cos' I need only one pair and now I 100% shure - it's not 7506.
Please advise meeeeee!!))
And I sooo glad to find your chanel!
Thank you for this, it makes sense!
Very informative video my guy thank u so much. Tryna get good headphones for mixing music.
Great concept and setup! I feel the same way about these. They are uncomfortable and color the sound too much. I'm a long time Sennheiser HD 280 pro user. Use them for booth and editing.
A client of mine had some 15 yo old HD280 pros that finally crapped out. He bought new HD280's and HATED them because they sounded very muffled to him. I told him based on that get the MDR-7506's and he LOVES them! Go figure!!
@@GeorgeTheTech Damn it, George, don't make me second guess my trusty 280's! 😂 Really wanted to like those Sony's too. You think it's possible Sennheiser refreshed the 280 and they're worse now? Mine are definitely of the older variety.
@@gsuttonvo for me the hd280 is the opposite of the 7506. On the 7506 you dont hear the medium and on the hd280 the medium are up. When I listen music on my hd280, for my ears, its very flat ! My mix on hd280 translate very good on other supports, not with the 7506........
Interesting example. Thanks! I heard the difference in your examples clearly. I purposely plugged in a pair of 7506s, next to my HD 540 Ref to experience this video. The results were basically identical between the cans. Although the 7506s certainly have a specific sound signature aimed at live audio (mixing, recording, etc) and not for mastering, I'm thinking that your test is primarily measuring the signal flow performance prior to getting to the cans. Every time you convert the audio signal from analog to digital (and vice versa), or from electrical to aural (and vice versa), you introduce noise and otherwise alter the signal.
That being said, I would certainly not recommend anyone mastering with 7506s. They are meant for live audio use, primarily to pick up any sibilance, handling, wind noise, etc that would effect a final recording. They are also perfect for critically EQing a vocal channel while performing a live mix or matching a voice (or instrument) with a mic. They're also good for pushing the vocals through a tight mix, for monitoring purposes. This is why they have a bump in the upper-mids to begin with. Use the right tool for the job. You can EQ the 7506s fairly flat (if that's what you want) but I still don't recommend mastering with them.
As for further comparisons like this... I suppose it's extremely helpful for those who can't get to experience multiple cans first-hand, side-by-side, with known source material prior to buying. If at all possible, I recommend people spend an afternoon at a retailer, listening to a lossless source they are extremely familiar with. Remember, the most critical components in a signal chain are those that convert aural energy to electrical energy (microphones, guitar pickups, etc) and those that convert electrical energy to aural energy (speakers, cans, etc.).
Thanks again! Keep up the good work!
If you are taking requests, I would love to hear this test with the Neumann headphones.
Definitely agree with you, I like wearing these to monitor myself live, but too much EQ & ear fatigue when editing. They get uncomfortable for me after a bit too. I know people who love them and swear by them, but don't count me in that crowd!
Thanks for sharing! I used to have 7506s for years ago and never loved them, mostly hated them.. got rid of them 10 years ago but I’m thinking about going back. Why? They highlight the treble.. if it really hurts it means you need more de-easing. And that’s what I’m hearing here as well, the raw sounds way better but could use a little heavier de-easing to be even better. Like the Sony’s need 15dB of de-easing, the Raw audio could use 3-5dB or even more.. who knows. So for that it might be useful. God I hate the idea of using them for more than 5 minutes though.
Are these good for listening to music?
He got me at the 10 feet cord. I was going to walk around the house and Clean with them but damn that is a long cord.
Keep in mind that if you're just editing for content, removing re-takes, clicks, etc any phones will be fine. If you're "mastering" and making EQ choices then the color of your phones matters, especially if you're mixing music.
I think the vast majority of the editing work VO artists do is *content* editing, in which case get the phones that are the most comfortable. Sound almost doesn't matter as long as you're hearing everything.
Voice artists often edit for hours a day so colored audio that’s too bassy for example can become exhausting on the ears.
These are actually renowned for having almost no clamping force. Have these myself, they’re delicate and I’m modding them soon because my cable broke.
I am listing this on 7506 & HD58x; das mid range cut is even more noticeable when Mike switches from raw to 7506. big oof.
Still going to mod mine for traveling though
Hi Mike, This is Mario Del Guércio from Brazil. Very interesting video because I use these Sony headphones. Which pair of headphone you recommend for mixing? I´ve noticed this difference already and din´t khow wich is the best reference for mixing my voiceovers. I also have a pair of KRK Rokit 8 monitors. Should I trust them more than my headphones?
WOW!! What a difference! I don't like them a bit.
Please, when you finish this whole HP series, make a wrap up video with how all the models sound in sequence (maybe the exact same sentence, fed into each headphone?).
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The 7506 is quieter so it is hard to judge, but it sounds more compressed somehow.
You should look into Yaxi pads for the MDR 7506s. they are supposed to improve comfort massively
This video is missing a comparison to headphones you do recommend and do sound good to your ears? Can’t really make a educated purchase decision based on hearing just 1 headphone compared to raw audio? Maybe Sony headphones compared to another studio headphones would have better outlined the sound differences
I love your videos! I record academic lectures, and I want them to sound as good as possible. New subscriber here!
Thanks for this vid! It really helps me make the decision of what headphones to get for editing!
Question: For a person on a budget, what do you think of the much cheaper monitoring headphones on Amazon? Like the OneOdio Adapter-Free Closed Back Over-Ear DJ Stereo Monitor Headphones?
Thank you very much!
I've recorded in a few of the top recording studios all over L.A. County and the standard is the 7506, although I do see a lot with either the DT770 and some even use AKG's.
Please do more, would you be able to do Senal SMH-1000? It was suggested to me as a good set of cans for recording/editing and using them on my DSLR.
Funny thing is I'm listening to this on these headphones and it sounds great, doesn't sound like your example at all
So I’m confused...would we be able to hear the difference if we’re listening with 7506’s for this comparison?
What do you think about Superlux headphones like the 681 or headset like the hmc 660 ?
I'm really confused. I'm listening to this video on my MDR 7506, so not being an audio guy, it's hard to wrap my little brain around the fact that i'm hearing your raw audio differently on my MDRs, and then you have the toned down version that it's YOUR MDRs. What am i missing here?