Yamaha YDS-150 Digital Saxophone

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  • It's here! Jim takes a look at the all new Yamaha YDS-150 Wind Synth!
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  • @Saxologic
    @Saxologic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Oh man, I am so tempted. My wallet is itching.... must.... wait....
    Edit: Man, just read some of these comments. Very very valid criticisms. Maybe I'll wait!

    • @anthonygiordano792
      @anthonygiordano792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Just don’t run it over pls

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Anthony Giordano :’(

    • @Amedeus1756
      @Amedeus1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I knew you were going to be here man, I can't wait until you review this thing on your channel.

    • @jeremybear573
      @jeremybear573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Amedeus1756 🤣🤣🤣

  • @insaneintherainmusic
    @insaneintherainmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    Probably the most intriguing wind synth on the market right now. Would love to try it out and see how the real sax key layout feels. However, tones still aren't good enough for a professional player imo, and that's going to limit this thing massively

    • @patrickkyle4601
      @patrickkyle4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hopefully it should have midi out so you can put it through any synth box (it will have breath response data) i have a WX5 which I use solely for silent practice.

    • @jasonlawson1369
      @jasonlawson1369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickkyle4601 according to the yamaha promo video, it does have a usb midi out and you can see the micro usb port in the photos on the yamaha site.

    • @kishiberohan7955
      @kishiberohan7955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yo what do you think about the slyphyo?

    • @williamsanborn9195
      @williamsanborn9195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just about to @ you on Twitter to see if you knew about it lol

    • @kennethfink3835
      @kennethfink3835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickkyle4601 It does. You may need a USB to MIDI converter, though.

  • @bluerhythmboy
    @bluerhythmboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is a promising start. An electric sax that replicates exact feel of a real sax is needed to suit after hours and quiet practice....as others have said something that responds to or relies on embrochure would be a dream

    • @ross-carlson
      @ross-carlson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should check out the old WX-7 - I've had one for years and as it supports lip bend you can be MUCH MUCH MUCH more expressive with it. Vibrato and pitch bend with your embouchure are both possible and while it doesn't feel like a real horn, specifically pitch bend is a bit tough, but vibrato on the WX-7 is very easy and natural. Very disappointing they wouldn't have included that on such a modern device. Pair the WX-7 with a modern sync, I use the (now older) VL70m and you can get some rather impressive sounds out of it. The sax sounds suck, at least for a sax player, but the other woodwinds - specifically the flutes - are extremely impressive.

  • @abedinsubashi
    @abedinsubashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I’m actually really suprised at the bari sax sound

    • @ulysax1979
      @ulysax1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah me too

    • @carlorenzi1802
      @carlorenzi1802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @joseperazza2221
      @joseperazza2221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree !

    • @lukas85as
      @lukas85as 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plastic Bari sax...

    • @espr7564
      @espr7564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bari sound is the ONLY useful thing about this horn. 🙁

  • @dgrjazz
    @dgrjazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That pitch bend can’t be done with the embouchure is a deal breaker for me.

    • @aritwcomposer
      @aritwcomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, unfortunately. If it has a bite sensor in the mouthpiece I think it would be great feature.

  • @saxworldwide
    @saxworldwide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    We hope you enjoyed the vid! We 💖 RoboSop 🤖 🎷

    • @Ricetamiya
      @Ricetamiya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's the first in-depth intro to this instrument, much appreciated. I am a current Roland AE-10 user, YDS 150's build quality, bluetooth function, new USB interface all looks superior, I'm very anticipate to this one.

    • @garyhonor4220
      @garyhonor4220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome work Jim Cheek

    • @fredfonseca6034
      @fredfonseca6034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Thank you so much for this video. I own a Roland aerophone ae-10. I have to say I like it as long im using a external speaker. After watching and learning about this yamaha I'm taken by it. Is an Elegant instrument and sound beautiful. Let be real. It will never replace our 🎷 by a long shot. But its a fun instrument to play with

  • @LaserGryph
    @LaserGryph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That you can basically practice all four types of saxophones on the same 700 dollar instrument more than makes it worth the cost. If further iterations include mouthpiece manipulation, this thing will become the gold standard for digital sax.

  • @Ve55el
    @Ve55el 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ...emulating perfect sax sound is kinda not the point right? If you can play this, you can play a regular saxophone and sound good. I think new sounds is the way to go with something like this. Do what Brecker and Mitzner did in the 80's, but with better sounds. This is like a digital keyboard for woodwind players. Not a sax replacement.

    • @ryanbard8555
      @ryanbard8555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not true, because the hardest part about a real sax is is manipulating the sounds with the mouth piece.. you could play like a pro on this and have no ability to play a real sax

  • @saxkid5035
    @saxkid5035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Such an unexpected start with that bari from a soprano😂😂😂

  • @il_fastidio
    @il_fastidio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What I am still not convinced about is how well they replicated the feel of a real saxophone in terms of fingering. In other words: is it a good tool for practicing without bothering neighbours?

  • @TehDuckOfDoom
    @TehDuckOfDoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This instrument isnt even marketed towards professional musicians, why can't peole just think before writing ALL THE THINGS they know about wind controllers in comments.
    To all you professional players with personal soundproof studios: you're not the only people in the world who enjoy playng musical instruments. A lot of people who play music actually have their day jobs and families and can't practice for hours each day. On the other hand we have a good stable income which makes this instrument really affordable since it is even cheaper than the cheapest yamaha student alto.
    I can't play my tenor at 10 PM in my apartment, however I still need to practice my scales, transcribe stuff and have fun. I'm using EWI with my phone for this now, but, since this instrument has a natural saxophone key layout, it will make my life a TON easier.
    Can you please think about other people on the planet, not only your professional music peers?

    • @tontonproductions
      @tontonproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DuckOfDoom Don't be fooled by their marketing dept: without lip pressure, it will harm your play, and soon you will realize this is a toy (like a keyboard without velocity sensitive keys). It is not snobism, nor over expectation. This thing does not make the cut, that's all.

    • @kevanbarrett7411
      @kevanbarrett7411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree.

    • @Bladel1965
      @Bladel1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As one of the people who has replied in a lengthy explanation about windcontrollers, I must explain that I’ve never dismissed this instrument. I did say this is not a windcontroller as history knows them, including your EWI. I felt the need to respond and explain because the guy in the video does make the false claim that this a valid competitor to the EWI’s and Aerophone. Even Yamaha doesn’t make that claim. I’ve also said that if you’re not after a windcontroller but want an instrument for silent practicing where an exact copy of the real thing ergonomics can be vital, go for it. Only the Synthophone or EMEO can do the same but with a much higher price tag.

    • @BernardBethea6339
      @BernardBethea6339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even pro play a ewi Jeff kashuwah Michael Bricker gtfoh with this bs

    • @LowReedExpert1
      @LowReedExpert1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most folks are thinking of most people. That's why they're saying this isn't worth it.
      I'd actually recommend the EWI Solo. Half the price, and arguably a better controller altogether -- particularly so if you aren't super serious about perfectly synthesized samples

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Anyone else drinking a shot every time he says “sort of”?

  • @kevanbarrett7411
    @kevanbarrett7411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m a little surprised about the amount of negative comments, but I’ve no intention of cancelling my order. It’s not perfect some way of doing vibrato and bends with the mouthpiece would have been great. That said though being able to practice anytime anywhere ‘ with the identical key layout is ideal. Also the app allowing to program your own altissimo fingering is a bonus I didn’t expect. Does anyone know if the app is avail either yer

    • @Valero7
      @Valero7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto!

  • @garybutler3340
    @garybutler3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mine turned up today at around 11.30 AM ( 30th October bang on schedule from pre order )
    It is awesome. When the Missus was watching TV 4 foot away This evening I had my headphones on practicing and she couldn’t hear a thing. Even the press down on the keys is silent and hardly any blow can be heard in the instrument.
    I have only been playing and learning my Alto for 14 months so the key positions are vital to me to be able to pick up the real thing and make good use of the silent practice. This is going to be a game changer for anyone that needs to practice at unsociable hours.
    It sounds great through its own speaker but through the headphones it is brilliant.
    I’ve done nothing but play with this all day and tonight.
    I honestly couldn’t be happier with it.

    • @TheDavidmachin
      @TheDavidmachin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I agree with this. I have had one for a few days and while it may not sound like a real sax, you can practice many techniques any time - so long as you also get time to practice tone etc on a real horn as well.

    • @silotx
      @silotx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is great for the neighbors of a beginner sax player.

    • @je6874
      @je6874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is exactly why I want to get an electric saxophone… I don’t want to let apartment living get in the way

  • @ColeHenriques
    @ColeHenriques 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Any EWI beats this by a long shot. Like insaneintherain said, wind controllers sound best when they’re NOT trying to emulate real instruments.

    • @darthanddedeu2580
      @darthanddedeu2580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm just a fan of music, I believe this for any synth category instrument.

    • @ColeHenriques
      @ColeHenriques 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice review tho 👍

    • @patrickkyle4601
      @patrickkyle4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      never liked the electrostatic touch (no movement) of EWI

    • @ColeHenriques
      @ColeHenriques 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Patrick Kyle It just takes some getting used to

    • @michaelalexander3927
      @michaelalexander3927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed! I love my EWI 4000S for that exact reason! I love expressive synth sounds that I can edit to my liking. Acoustic instrument sounds are useless.

  • @gikasmarkantonatos2168
    @gikasmarkantonatos2168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As usual, this is a great, honest and in depth review, Jim. I don't purchase anything expensive until I see what you have to say about it.

  • @alanlowenthal2384
    @alanlowenthal2384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Appears to be a great practice tool that also happens to be a lot of fun to play. Few people will buy it instead of a saxophone or to replace their saxophone. Play anywhere anytime and easy to travel with. When I travel on a plane, I'm thrilled I'll be able to take this instead of my "real" sax.

  • @cavemantero
    @cavemantero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a trumpet player who always wanted to learn sax that thing is baller for me.

  • @kiz8409
    @kiz8409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this great review, a comparison between the EMEO and this one would be very nice and helpfull.

  • @TrentJacobs
    @TrentJacobs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The fact that the mouthpiece is totally worthless (no pitch bend hardware in the mouthpiece?!) makes this such a curious and useless wind controller. This is the #1 most natural way to produce pitch bend (WX series) or vibrato trigger (EWI) that leaving it out just boggles my mind. Also artificially limiting the range to a single octave key.... Such a missed opportunity. Still wishing for a professional WX instrument with flexible fingerings and solid keys with rollers. They got that part mostly right, but what if I don't actually want to be limited to Saxophone keys and fingerings? Again, missed opportunities.

    • @mattblostein
      @mattblostein 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No vibrato via lip pressure? this is just a toy

  • @milleringtonsmythe
    @milleringtonsmythe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Without the emulation of pitch bend, vibrato, altissimo through embouchure, the only thing that this would help for the purpose of sax practice seems to be the fingering and keys as far as I can tell.

  • @hakonsoreide
    @hakonsoreide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The sax patch dynamics sound all wrong. That's a shame, but I assume one might still use it with something that actually sounds good, like Audio Modeling's SWAM saxophones, even if that means having to have a computer in the signal chain.

  • @eriksax
    @eriksax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I returned mine immediately due to an unsatisfactory amount of real time controllable influence over the sounds from the mouthpiece. It is so much more satisfying to play a saxophone quietly.

  • @McGillMusicSaxSchool
    @McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great demo Jim, I can’t wait to have a go on this myself. I wonder how it compares to the new EWI Solo?

  • @conn12m
    @conn12m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is worth noting that the title of this video called it a digital sax and not a wind synth. It is an impressive accomplishment, however I don’t understand why any sax player would use this digital sax over a real sax. I guess their target market is people who don’t play the sax but wish they could?
    I love my Akai EWI, but I use it to supplement my sax use with synth sounds...I don’t try to digitally recreate sax sounds!
    Regardless, Yamaha has got people talking with this thing, and I’m sure they will sell many of them.

  • @mikeschouten4732
    @mikeschouten4732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I respect the professionalism and thoroughness of this review, but the product doesn’t excite me at all.

  • @rickycornwall6221
    @rickycornwall6221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you practice with the ear phones on .to practice in silence no matter where or what time of night ?

  • @gabrielfranco735
    @gabrielfranco735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    good night, I'm from Brazil and I watch your channel since the beginning, I really like the videos, congratulations on your work!

  • @ruyc.oficial9915
    @ruyc.oficial9915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unfortunately it continues to sound very artificial!

  • @thesaxcafe457
    @thesaxcafe457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It looks nicer than my AE 10 but I think I would rather buy another real saxophone 🎷😊 Thanks for an excellent demo.

  • @sak079
    @sak079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the 3rd/4th generation of this instrument will be amazing. For me the sound is akin to a child's toy, key response slow and you can't vary tone through your embouchure. Sure in 5-6 years all those issues will be resolved.

  • @SauloTubistaCabreuva
    @SauloTubistaCabreuva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Good

  • @s.r.bigband7253
    @s.r.bigband7253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video is very useful ... but you can make a video in which you can see and hear the response you have used as a MIDI controller, that is, using the USB MIDI output connected to an external device, for example MAINSTAGE, or a module of external sound. Thank you very much from the Canary Islands!

  • @ezion67
    @ezion67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Samples?? So Yamaha couldn't even be bothered to put in a VL1 modeling synth?

  • @StevenCharlesJazz
    @StevenCharlesJazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review, but I could see you had to work hard to come up with things to compliment... Having used the WX5 for over 20 years, this is certainly not a step up. I understand it's not classified as a wind synth, but it truthfully sounds no better than those little Casio Digital Horns, that were a couple hundred bucks, and fun, especially since you could get a big sound, out of small, toy-looking "horn". I don't see anyone actually playing this as a saxophone on a gig (unless perhaps, they aren't a sax player, like me using my WX5 to play guitar or B-3 solos), as its sounds (especially over the length of a melody) don't compare to those of an actual saxophone.
    In all they years of using the WX5, I NEVER used any sax patches, since I have the real horns, if I want to sound like a sax player. Plus, I agreed 100% when Michael Brecker, asked about his EWI, said, "It's an electronic wind instrument, and it can sound like anything BUT a saxophone"!

  • @yob841
    @yob841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've had one for a few weeks to try. I've played a WX5 for some time so was thinking it was in that area. It is not designed for that market, although it does has several synth sounds. It is a lot of fun to play. when I quit trying to make it a traditional sax, I started getting more fun and understanding of it. This is a good video showing the options. people who wan t to learn sax or have played but not in a long time will really enjoy it. I am going to spend some time with it and see how aI can best use it.

    • @stephenruggieri
      @stephenruggieri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Richard, would you mind sharing your comparison between the fingering action of the wx5 and the YDS. I have the ewi 5000 and prefer it because there are no keys. The wx5 had no spring in it's keys making it hard to play fast passages. How does the YDS compare?

    • @d.williams7887
      @d.williams7887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Richard, I see that you've had the YDS-150 for some time now so I thought perhaps you can answer a vital question for me regarding it. Since it is not designed for a swab, how do you clean the residual condensation (saliva) from this instrument? I would imagine that over time, if it's not cleaned fairly regularly, it can become a breeding ground for bacteria.

  • @nuttysquirrel8574
    @nuttysquirrel8574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good professional demo, thanks, but not a patch on a Roland Aerophone AE10. I have an AE10 and have just sold my fabulous £1k Yah Alto (no longer play enough to warrant it!); this is a complete waste of £700. What gap in the market does it fill that a) a real sax and b) an AE10 does not do????

  • @iqi616
    @iqi616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:05 a fundamental design fail! Until Yamaha fix this, I'm not interested in this product. A pity because it looks so much nicer than Roland's big lump of plastic.
    My primary need is for a silent practice tool because I can only play my sax at limited times and durations - no point getting tunes under my fingers if my embouchure is atrophying. My secondary need is as a controller for synths (preferably via real MIDI so I don't have to use a computer though my MPC One might have solved that problem).

    • @ChristophKauflin
      @ChristophKauflin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, this would be a reason for me not to buy it :(

  • @asoulforsaleorrent2600
    @asoulforsaleorrent2600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
    やっぱり、ありとあらゆる分野で韓国より日本の方が世界に先かけていちはやく名品を生み出してますね。普通の頭からはYDS-150のアイデア何かは出ません。もっぱら、天才のみの発想でござる。
    以上、ソウルに住んでる親日派韓国人でした。私が提言しましたタンギングとベンドアップとベンドダウンを感知できるスマートリードも天才の発想で御座る。

  • @geraldfriend256
    @geraldfriend256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EWI Electronc Wind Instrument came out in 80s and was also cool.In all honesty , these tones don't impress me.Sounds half bari half casio.Better as a midi trigger for someone whose primary instrument is sax or flute.

  • @rakutzimbel4539
    @rakutzimbel4539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Useless for everyone who masters his/her instrument. It sounds artificial no matter what setting you use. A sax is a sax and only sounds like one. Stay away from those gadgets if you want to sound genuine.

    • @leissMusic
      @leissMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't think that's really relevant to wind synth enthusiasts. Some people want to be able to input notes on a DAW using the instrument that they have the most dexterity/skill with. Or even just have access to a wide berth of textures that aren't meant to sound like a sax.

    • @leissMusic
      @leissMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one in particular, from what I'm seeing, isn't a very good instrument. But Yamaha's getting the key layout closer to something saxophonists are used to. Maybe if Roland took this idea a step further, it'd be a killer midi controller.

    • @thundercloud755
      @thundercloud755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's just another tool in a toolbox. It's like complaining that a hammer isn't doing the same as a mallet.

    • @shendshillova6872
      @shendshillova6872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can play it in the middle of the night without annoying anyone else. It can also be very good for the technique

  • @ernoe303
    @ernoe303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For a moment I was afraid I was going to be dissapointed in my Aerophone AE-10. But the Yamaha has no bite sensor, so the Aerophone still rules :)

    • @nuttysquirrel8574
      @nuttysquirrel8574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also have an AE-10 and you have forgotten to mention the other 120+ tones that it has over this poor relation.

    • @Ejazz09
      @Ejazz09 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree I still like my Roland ae10 better although I do wish it did have that Bluetooth feature which I think is cool and I suggested it a while back that I wish it had Bluetooth

  • @letsgobrandon5604
    @letsgobrandon5604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just ordered one of these babies! Thanks for the excellent review!

  • @meldavis7183
    @meldavis7183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great demo but I’ll stick with my Aerophone ae-10.

  • @RussPaladino
    @RussPaladino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    At $915.00 it's an extremely expensive toy. Like the Roland Aerophone, the internal sounds are not good. Kudos for making the keywork sax friendly. This should cost more like $300.00 if they were being realistic.

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish they had put a bite sensor in the mouthpiece, like all of their competitors have. It looks really cool though.

  • @ross-carlson
    @ross-carlson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a WX7 player I'm really disappointed this doesn't support lip pitch bend, specially for vibrato. Anything that's required me to use a thumb/finger for it never worked for me and the ability to be super expressive with that on my WX7 is one of my favorite features. Otherwise it looks amazingly fun.

    • @lancejordan2561
      @lancejordan2561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wx11 also had the similar feature of really organic sounding pitch bend for realistic sounding vibrato. After the original wind controllers wx7 and 11, Yamaha seemed to have dropped the ball somewhere.

  • @mikeellisonhimself
    @mikeellisonhimself 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unless it responds to embouchure it's a non-starter.

  • @Bladel1965
    @Bladel1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a digital sax and not a wind synthesizer as we know them. Undoubtedly it’s usable for silent practicing your sax fingerings through the exact copy of the sax ergonomics. Just another product in Yamaha’s line of silent practicing options, like silent pianos and silent brass devices. But when you compare it to the Akai EWI or Roland Aerophone, you entirely miss the point of MIDI windcontrollers. Even the decades old Yamaha WX-series instruments outperform this instrument when you want to use it as a windcontroller/windsynth. You can only compare it with the EMEO, another digital sax aimed at silent practicing.

    • @45zapatero
      @45zapatero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is usb midi out. But maybe I do not understand the piint you want to make ?

    • @Bladel1965
      @Bladel1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Denis Hermans, yes, it has MIDI USB Out so you could hook it up to a computer and maybe even a MIDI USB capable hardware synth. However, the concept of a wind synth or windcontroller is entirely different.
      Some history here:
      The first woodwind style windcontroller, the Computone Lyricon, was designed in the early 70’s to create an electronic instrument that would give woodwind players the ability to play synthesised sounds with the blowing and playing techniques inherited from their woodwind instrument playing. Expressiveness was the key goal. So the instrument responds to the note fingering, breath pressure and lip pressure over a wider range of octaves. A saxophone needs all the keys to close all the individual tone holes, a windcontroller doesn’t have tone holes, so it can simplify the key layout to make playing it easier. It basically has the C scale fingering and adds semitone and whole tone pinky and palm keys to be able to quickly play all chromatic notes with the ability to create shortcuts for easy note transistions. Not having the exact same fingerings as on sax is an asset not a flaw and there has been some good reasoning behind that. This guy sells this digital sax as the next generation windcontroller when it isn’t. Not having a good key layout and lacking a decent octave range and expressiveness through controllers, like lip pressure, actually makes it useless and there are many better and cheaper alternatives for that. It was actually Yamaha that designed the best Lyricon alternative when the Computone went bankrupt when MIDI became the norm. They consulted Sal Galina to design a Lyricon style MIDI windcontroller, the WX7. That has everything a windcontroller in the sense of the Lyricon needs; expression sensors, wide octave range, right key layout, etc. Later they had the somewhat simpler WX11 and, to me, the top of the line WX5 with even more octaves under its belt.
      During the same time as the Lyricon was invented, Nyle Steiner invented his own EVI (Electronic Valve Instrument), a brass type windcontroller. Its breath sensor had much more back pressure than the one on the Lyricon, presumably more catered to brass players. Some time later he developed the Steinerphone a woodwind version with the same electronics as the EVI but with touch sensitive keys in a similar layout as on the Lyricon and with octave thumb roller. The Steinerphone was played by Michael Brecker who didn’t get along with the Lyricon. This would later be named the EWI. After Crumar produced it for a while, production and further development was taken over by Akai Professional and we know these today as Akai EWI’s. The style of the breath sensor remained the same and that’s why many woodwind players find it difficult to adapt to it. Easily fixed with the right blowing technique and practive. They no longer make the EVI for brass players, but Berglund Instruments is selling a modern day EVI complete with MIDI and CV. They also do a NuRad a radial EWI once designed by Nyle Steiner for Michael Brecker.
      Whatever this guy says in the video, he clearly doesn’t know the market or doesn’t want to know it as it can harm sales. There’s already an alternative to the Yamaha YDS-150 digital sax. The EMEO was released last year. But even apart from that Swiss inventor Martin Hurni of Softwind Instruments converts alto saxes into full blown, feature rich MIDI windcontrollers, the Synthophone. And they do that ever since the 80’s...
      Normally I don’t care about these video’s, but the concept of the windcontroller is dear to me as I think it’s the best instrument ever made. Started a sax player a very long time ago, I gradually converted to windcontrollers entirely. It’s a great tool to create great music and in the right hands, with the right gear it can do both good emulations and non-emulative sounds. I’ve built a nice collection with windcontrollers from all era’s. Anybody with little or no knowledge about windcontrollers could end up believing this guy and buy the Yamaha Digital Sax as a windcontroller to later find out it’s just a digital sax for silent practicing and with less expressive control as a cheaper real windcontroller could offer.

  • @jamesperdue8355
    @jamesperdue8355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The absence of MIDI OUT is a deal breaker for me.

  • @LowReedExpert1
    @LowReedExpert1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, why buy this over an EWI Solo?
    This one is like $950 (last I saw) and the Solo is $500, but with a standard wind controller mouthpiece, feature, and full library of sounds

    • @TheDavidmachin
      @TheDavidmachin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been playing this for a few days while in hotels. The advantage here is that it feels like a sax in your hands. I like this as I do not want to have to learn anything else and this allows me to practice as I practice on my actual sax, but using headphones. But I am less interested in the sounds.

  • @aritwcomposer
    @aritwcomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it have a bite sensor inside the mouthpiece? Just like Roland AE-10 has.

  • @IanJonesOnSax
    @IanJonesOnSax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I play with just a reed and mouthpiece it makes quite a bit of noise. Does this produce that same noise when using headphones? If not, is it just fully absorbed into the horn? Thanks in advance, really interested in using with headphones while babies are asleep.

    • @berlogainvest
      @berlogainvest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came here to ask the same question

  • @abolajiidowu8284
    @abolajiidowu8284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm. I’m wondering if someone will create an electronic mouthpiece in the future as an aftermarket add on that will allow vibrato etc. Just wondering

  • @Warrendoe
    @Warrendoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this helpful video. I ordered mine back in Mach and it arrived in UK on Weds and with me Thursday. I’m 66 years old, just a basic self taught player in my late 40s…..and I had a lot of fun and satisfaction from my alto and tenor. But then I got ill;became disabled; and had dentures fitted. Still not in the best of health but retired I tried playing again and just didn’t have the breath or embouchure…….then I read about this and it has solved all my problems.

  • @QalinaCom
    @QalinaCom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all this technology and effort went into creating something that sound so inferior to the old fashioned sax...

  • @vitalinopaulosousinha2812
    @vitalinopaulosousinha2812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Já tenho um. Entendo que cada um deve pensar o que pretende obter deste instrumento. Obviamente que não é um saxofone real, para isso comprava-se um. Eu toco acordeão e comprei um sax destes para ter uma alternativa ao acordeão sem ter de passar pela tarefa de aprender a embocadura de um sax acústico.

  • @gianlucawork
    @gianlucawork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last!!! From the legacy of the WX5 (I own one and love it!!!) an upgraded up-to-date wind controller!!!

  • @abdolreza82
    @abdolreza82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No magnetic pitch sensor in the reed! Will never replace my WX5 and not for me.

  • @espr7564
    @espr7564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sax U.K. always a good sales pitch from this guy, the biggest flop is there is no way to play expressivly with the mouthpiece, vibrato is a no no 😕 what a shame that Yamaha didn't get right? 👎

  • @thundercloud755
    @thundercloud755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what are the non-sax sounds? Are they all synths or are there other instruments? Does the fingering adjust to the instrument you're playing? and can you add more instruments from a database like you can with the Akai 4000s?

  • @lrblouie
    @lrblouie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you demo with the audiomodeling SWAM Saxophones?

  • @RhinoKaus
    @RhinoKaus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m all for the proof of concept, but my biggest complaint with synthesizers playing saxophone sounds is the legato. There’s still that clicky-clackey separation between notes. I do like the fact that you don’t need a place where your neighbors can’t hear you.

  • @aritwcomposer
    @aritwcomposer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One advantage of the Roland AE -10 compared to other similar products is that it features a bite sensor to adjust the pitch so that it is possible to play bending notes.

  • @Robyn19fnq
    @Robyn19fnq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the preview. I'd have preferred if you showed us what the speakers can do, instead of using an amp.

  • @smaklilu90
    @smaklilu90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    $700 for something that sounds nothing like a real sax? 😀 A midi keyboard and a decent saxophone vst does the Job for me.. yeah
    $70 = midi keyboard +
    $97 = Vienna Symphonic Library Tenor Saxophone - Full Library

  • @theobolt250
    @theobolt250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatever you say... it just doesn't sound like a REAL Sax! It sounds.... AR-TI-FI-CI-AL! So? Throw it in the bin.

  • @PeterBromberg
    @PeterBromberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWFUL! Give me Gene Ammons, Stan Getz, Gerry Mulligan any day besides this utter CRAP!

  • @lostipod12
    @lostipod12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could care less about the sounds; I'm more interested in using something like this to control my analogue synths via MIDI. I owned an Akai EWI-4000 for a while and had fun with it, but I was turned off by the non-mechanical fingering and the inability to allow air to pass through the mouthpiece. It felt weird playing it, and I could never really enjoy it.
    I grew up playing sax, owned a YAS-62, I love the positioning and action of Yamaha keys and am excited by the prospect of having a wind controller which feels like a real sax, one with real keys and a real mouthpiece.
    I hope there is the ability to sent MIDI note and CC data to external gear from it.

  • @hotclubofthemountains3591
    @hotclubofthemountains3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    mm....I am not a fan of synthisysed sax voices.....never a hit...but, maybe this can interface with sythn sound modules ...

  • @codingwithraphael
    @codingwithraphael ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got this instrument “but I really want to call this as a toy” the sound is like those toys you can buy at supermarket to give as gift to a kid, the problem is that I paid fucking 700 euros

  • @jakeniemi6533
    @jakeniemi6533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering today's standards, it doesn't sound as authentic as it could. Make it sound as good as Embertone Sensual Saxophone (VST) and we're talking. Keep trying, Yamaha! You're still a bit behind the times, sonically!

  • @emuplayers5942
    @emuplayers5942 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest,this electric saxophone are not bad but the saxophone samples for me are not sound great.I saw many videos in TH-cam many people who cover a song using this electric saxophone using the Kenny G VST via MIDI.

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't play notes with my tongue? I've been complaining about this for decades. I must be the only person who complains. I guess I used to play wrong, or I don't understand the synths or both or something or what.
    "OMG it has an actual mouthpiece! ...
    . . . never mind."

  • @RandyResnick
    @RandyResnick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've. done an extensive write up of the unit
    cafesaxophone.com/threads/yamaha-yds-150-digital-instrument-day-one.30288/#post-445778

  • @hansmathiasthjomoe4817
    @hansmathiasthjomoe4817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great video, as usual. However, most of the sounds you were demonstrating reminds me of a bag-pipe.

  • @carlitospapa9080
    @carlitospapa9080 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those of us who are interested in digital sax to practice, those of us who need silence to coexist. Why don't you make an Emeo vs Yamaha 120?

  • @blueeyedsoulman
    @blueeyedsoulman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sticking with my Roland AE-10 and SWAM modeled sounds. Can't be beat.

  • @instrumentalistjade8367
    @instrumentalistjade8367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im not surprised. Knowing that Yamaha makes good keyboards and acoustic sounds are one of their best sounds

  • @speedypete07
    @speedypete07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please be aware that does NOT have two speakers ! There is no speaker in the bell ! Confirmed with Yamaha....I had one and sent it back.....

  • @robertzantay5923
    @robertzantay5923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No pitch control with the lip? Typical dumbing down of what was a great instrument, the WX7 which of course was a blatant copy of the Lyricon

  • @dobro8
    @dobro8 ปีที่แล้ว

    in French:
    mais que deviens la condensation ??
    peut t'on le nettoyer pour eviter l'accumulation de microbes dans l'instrument ?
    in English:
    but what happens to the condensation?
    Can it be cleaned to prevent the accumulation of microbes in the instrument?

  • @jeremymurray-wakefield8011
    @jeremymurray-wakefield8011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:07 when you said "Yamaha" I think you probably meant to say "Akai" at that point (you were bringing up Yamaha competitors).

  • @SynergyMusicOficial
    @SynergyMusicOficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! Can chords be made as a midi controller? for example piano chords?

  • @osoriosvids2225
    @osoriosvids2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im looking to buy a saxophone but this sounds like fake compared to a real saxophone

  • @deaconblues3964
    @deaconblues3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man... I have been waiting for a new Yamaha Wind Synth!
    This one looks great.
    I am going to get it just because of the physical layout of the keys!
    The only thing I wish they would have done was put some expression sensors in the mouthpiece.
    Well...maybe in the next model!
    I wish Yamaha would buy the Lyricon patent and bring back that instrument.
    The original machine used additive synthesis which I have never seen in any other synth.
    This new synth is going to be THE wind synth to have.
    I am looking forward to the new models as they improve the instrument.

  • @I_EAF_19882
    @I_EAF_19882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm looking to get back into the sax. Should I choose this or a different wind synth? I can't go with any analogue instrument because I'm in an apartment.

  • @tiangong3652
    @tiangong3652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disputed ! An instrument should be an emotional machine. If every instrument electronicsisted like this, it is no longer an instrument, but a toy. What hike a toy is different with an instrument. An instrument is an adult's toy.

  • @anshas1637
    @anshas1637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi i liked it , i got my second tenor from u < but off late my jaw gets locked when i play its beacuse of pressure and have been un able to play , its called TMJ disorder am missing my sax play just want to know whether i can blow with less pressure and get the same sound can i begin playing sax again i am excited to know thanks

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how come it plays in fifths in the beginning? sorry if it is explained later in the video

  • @marciosaxs
    @marciosaxs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to remove the brass bell? It would make it easier to travel with it.

  • @robertzantay5923
    @robertzantay5923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Altissimo fingerings? Are you nuts? Why not just add another octave key?

  • @ЮрійСамоєнко
    @ЮрійСамоєнко 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it make acoustic noise when you play with headphones? can I play it at night without disturbing my family?

  • @JorisPosthumus
    @JorisPosthumus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a completly utherly useless product, it has no relation to any live situation..

  • @muchmusicmcquade
    @muchmusicmcquade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Less talk more play! Want decide whether this can come close to Aerophone. Please put a decent video out with music out of horn! The Aerophone pro out at same time here. Please a different video

  • @gradymorriss3227
    @gradymorriss3227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but does bari have low A

  • @raktimparashar
    @raktimparashar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would one need an electric sax when u have a whole range of synths. I like the sax for its natural timber. Instead people should concentrate on a music market and platforms for musicians then investing on expensive instruments to buy.

    • @rebeccakumi5369
      @rebeccakumi5369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can't think of any other reason why this product might be appealing to anyone? Must be nice in your massive farm house in the middle of nowhere ;)

    • @raktimparashar
      @raktimparashar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rebeccakumi5369 I am not saying it's not appealing, all I am saying is we are going for this and that but as musicians we did not have much platforms. Won't it be nice if people concentrate on paying the musician first then taking all from them? Atleast we can have some farmhouse somewhere :)

  • @danielaguirre5949
    @danielaguirre5949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this be a good invest to relearn the tenor/soprano saxophone? Haven't touched a saxophone in over 11yrs and been wanting to relearn it

  • @thisisnotdom
    @thisisnotdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review! Would be good if we could hear some of the synth sounds too, and maybe what it sounds like in a mix / with backing tracks!

  • @TheDavidmachin
    @TheDavidmachin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got one. Played half an hour. They have done a great job with the key work. It feels like a sax in your hands. It is very lite. It is a shame the bell does not seem to come off. Seems cosmetic and it would be easier for travel without this. It is not a strong instrument either. Keys feel they could snap with a knock.
    It does not feel like blowing a sax. But in a hotel, or at night, or wherever you can practice licks, scales, changes, melodies all you want and this will transfer to your horn. I will now take it with me as I travel. I will miss my horn, but really glad I have this to take with me so in the evenings I can still sit and work on music I am presently looking at. I could not get it to sound exactly like a real sax, but with the earphones on it was certainly good enough to use to practice. Not sure how long batteries will last but you can also connect to computer with USB/5V which you have to buy yourself. I think it is great. For people who find it hard to practice due to noise, this is something special. I would be very interested to try some of the others coming onto the market that also hav sex keywork. I am less bothered by the sound and more with how practice transfers to the real horn.

    • @abolajiidowu8284
      @abolajiidowu8284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it’ll be interesting when users start posting their settings that give it some near sax sounds. I have heard a few demos that ain’t bad, and also heard some that worried me as they sounded horrible. But these two demos I think ain’t bad at all if I can get mine to sound this good
      th-cam.com/video/-vvFHK4rgt4/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/ZREVvVnKxdU/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheDavidmachin
      @TheDavidmachin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abolajiidowu8284 Yes, great point. Also I am sure it will help just when I get used to how to blow it. I am playing it like my real sax, when this is clearly not the way to do it. And I just tried with the earphones again and its not bad at all. But agreed, will be useful when people start sharing.