I added TPU fibers to PLA to make it super tough!

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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    *QUESTION:* Which material combinations would you like to see and why?
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    • @Some-nerd-who-tinkers
      @Some-nerd-who-tinkers 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Mix carbon fiber PETG with ninja flex TPU

    • @eskanderx1027
      @eskanderx1027 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      ABS + chocolate 😋

    • @Some-nerd-who-tinkers
      @Some-nerd-who-tinkers 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Fiber glass composite pla 😋😋😋

    • @RENATINHOBR99
      @RENATINHOBR99 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      maybe PLA with a core of water soluble support like polydissolve, maybe to do some really light weight prints, insted of solid lines you will get tubes of PLA

    • @lucasverocai1631
      @lucasverocai1631 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      This process can indeed open a path to multimaterial filament such as continuous carbon/glass fiber core embedded (inside an easy to respool material at first, for test purposes), the non strech fiber mechanical properties might be a hassle to deal with though...
      PA6/12, PC, TPU or Nylon for high end continuous fiber embedded filament, but might be even trickier to process.
      Anyway, good luck if you try this. Great video as always !

  • @timseguine2
    @timseguine2 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +418

    "Yo Dawg, I heard you like layer adhesion problems. So I put layers in your filament so you can have layer adhesion problems while you're having layer adhesion problems."

    • @ericwheelhouse4371
      @ericwheelhouse4371 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You are having adhesion problems with pla?

    • @timseguine2
      @timseguine2 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@ericwheelhouse4371 14:28

    • @djordjezivic2481
      @djordjezivic2481 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ericwheelhouse4371 never under estimate a bad printer (my 2018 wanhao duplicator i3)

  • @mannycrafts
    @mannycrafts 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1346

    Wow, this is insane. Mans maxed out his engineering level and just grinding sidequests now.

    • @Some-nerd-who-tinkers
      @Some-nerd-who-tinkers 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +108

      He’s completed the CNC part of his username and will soon begin the Kitchen stage.
      Edit: tbh he’s already cooking

    • @hyozanhades09
      @hyozanhades09 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      He is manufacturing a new reality for earth in his kitchen !!!

    • @ameliabuns4058
      @ameliabuns4058 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol

    • @drummerboymaddux
      @drummerboymaddux 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂

    • @brandonsaffell4100
      @brandonsaffell4100 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If you think our man has reached his final form you underestimate him.

  • @dittot
    @dittot 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +518

    Roughly every year or so, someone makes a completely game-changing 3D printing video showcasing an inventive new way of doing things which could open up so many new possibilities. This is one of those.

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      And at least a third of those seem to be done by CNC Kitchen. How many of the things Stephan has showcased over the years have become standard practice?

    • @TD-er
      @TD-er 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yep I was wondering which 3D printer manufacturer is also watching this and thinking to add a filament-diameter scanner into the printhead to be able to automatically compensate for under/over extrusion during printing.
      Maybe this is even more important for flexible filaments to get a really consistent printing results?

    • @givemeanameman1
      @givemeanameman1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Its interesting, but its already being done...
      Continuous Carbon Fiber filaments for high strength parts for example.
      "fiber" filaments rarely have increased strength, because the fibers have to be chopped up so small that they don't do much. So Continuous Carbon Fiber filament and the like were invented to change this.
      The game changer is being able to make multifilament at home, even as a proof of concept.

  • @whatevernamegoeshere3644
    @whatevernamegoeshere3644 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +372

    I work maintenance in a cable factory. The first 5 minutes of the video were pretty much most accessories of an extruder re-invented lol. You should really look up Kabmak extruders to get some inspirations because there are things like vacuum attachments and straightening rollers that could be added even to your machines. You could also add a mechanical brake to the pay-off spool to add pre-tensioning and it would make the plastic more consistent as it would feed through straight. The rollers serve the same purpose, but for wobbly lines. Another important addition would be a hot air blower to pre-heat the filament so you couldn't have to run a volcano type nozzle or anything special. You would need a lot less forces on that filament if it went into the nozzle already at say 50C. As for what you could be adding to it? Oh boy! Make 3 separate filament pay-offs with U-shaped "shells" on 2 of them and one filler. You could just add nylon strings or fishing line to the center spool and print multiple times as much filament at once. Hell, add a caterpillar-type tensioner brake to it and you're gonna have time to change filament on the go without interruption if you find a way to weld them in between.

    • @jakeharms1386
      @jakeharms1386 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Thank you so much. This is exactly what I wish every comment on TH-cam was like

    • @shawnalfaro6943
      @shawnalfaro6943 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I agree with all of these suggestions! Preheating the filament is a great idea, even with something simple as a halogen light bulb. And the roller suggestion is also great!

    • @audioman81
      @audioman81 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Preheat the filament too was first thing I thought when he was struggling to pull it through too. Can't believe he didn't think of that when he was basically already doing that to stretch down in size to insert it.

    • @bastienx8
      @bastienx8 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just putting a hot air blower or halogen lamp at the entry is not very energy efficient, for a process that takes hours this is something to consider

    • @sementhrower420
      @sementhrower420 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Off topic, but I think you might be the right person to ask this, if you don't mind helping out a random internet stranger :D
      I'm working on creating coaxial nylon-nichrome wires where I want to embed a nichrome wire in the core of a nylon monofilament line. The ultimate goal is to achieve this with 0.1mm D nylon and 0.01mm D nichrome wire, but I'll first try to do it with larger D nylon. What Stephan built here is roughly what I am also planning on doing, and in addition also feeding the nichrome wire through the core of the nozzle. Do you think this would be workable and do you have any tips? Thanks in advance!

  • @OldCurmudgeon3DP
    @OldCurmudgeon3DP 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +528

    Hard candy is made in a similar fashion. All the design is created in a large (8-9" diameter) chunk then stretched into the final bite-size form. The pattern is retained through the stretching process same as with yours.

    • @EFLO3D
      @EFLO3D 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Same with “millefiori” glass art.

    • @benjaminvdvyt
      @benjaminvdvyt 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      This was the first thing that came to mind. Watching how candy is made, is extremely similar and follow the same principles.

    • @OG-ProfessorFarnsworth
      @OG-ProfessorFarnsworth 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      His old video about the PC core ABS he mentioned actually talks about the same thing. I believe the original researchers made large blanks with the desired pattern that they then had a machine to extrude into a filament.
      Exactly what you’re thinking! But requires specialized equipment.
      Assuming I’m remembering correctly! 😅

    • @wakafeek
      @wakafeek 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Beat me to it! I was about to say this is how they do designs in saltwater taffy too

    • @dooleve
      @dooleve 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Funnily enough, this is mentioned in the subtitles at 13:58, but he doesn't say it out loud

  • @ac281201
    @ac281201 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +269

    4:13 This phenomenon is actually a result of two combined effects: necking and strain hardening. When tension is applied to the nylon filament, it begins to undergo plastic deformation at its weaker points, leading to a reduction in diameter. At the same time, the nylon string strengthens in these areas of reduced thickness, which concentrates the strain on the thicker segments of the string. The combination of these effects causes the string to shrink to a new, constant diameter before ultimately breaking.
    Articles for more information:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necking_(engineering)
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening

    • @miqo85
      @miqo85 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      aka continuous necking

    • @hugofernandez8522
      @hugofernandez8522 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      It's kind of right but not quite, the effect is due to the majority of the chains in the polimer getting aligned and because all the chains are in the same orientation they become stronger

    • @hugofernandez8522
      @hugofernandez8522 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      In amorfous materials like polymers you don't have strain hardening like in metallic materials

    • @ac281201
      @ac281201 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@hugofernandez8522 Yes, you are correct, in the case of polymers this effect is the result of chain alignment and not crystal shifts like in metals, but still, this effect is called strain hardening (or work hardening) in both cases

    • @louisvaught2495
      @louisvaught2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      As others have mentioned, this is not work hardening, it's chain alignment.
      No, they are not the same thing.
      Work hardening is a crystallographic behavior (polymers do have crystal structure) while chain alignment is just generally the idea that you can do things to the material that cause the long molecules to be oriented in roughly the same direction.
      Chain alignment doesn't require work-hardening because polymers are viscous and have huge molecules. Things like melt-spinning can also cause higher chain alignment.
      Chain alignment also doesn't have to interact with the crystal structure of the plastic, and happens even in amorphous materials. It's just about the average direction the polymer chains are oriented.

  • @lescarneiro
    @lescarneiro 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +342

    This TPU core experiment is just GENIUS! That's why I love your channel, you do science with your experiments, not just funny things for likes and subs

    • @danilolattaro
      @danilolattaro 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely genius!

    • @zackj997
      @zackj997 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why a solid core instead of the TPU and PLA emulsified together? People already use silk PLA for flexibility in certain applications since it already has TPU in it.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@zackj997 The solid core unmixed turns it into a composite. When you have two materials with different properties together, their strengths can add together in ways that wouldn't if they were thoroughly mixed. In this case, the flexibility of the TPU functions like dampening rebar, preventing fracture propagation while preserving the stiffness that PLA offers.

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zackj997 Really? Most of my silk prints seem more brittle, not less. I'm a sucker for off-brand budget filament deals so that might be a factor.

    • @kbee225
      @kbee225 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It sounds genius if you know very little polymer science. PU and PLA are not chemically similar so they form what we call non-compatible blends. These blends are basically those that cause boundary layer separation because the two materials are not chemically bonding with each other, this forms a weak material that is worse in most aspects than the homopolymers themself. This is why when making polymers blends with dissimilar materials we use compatibilizers to act as a glue and bind both the materials together.

  • @tomallo99
    @tomallo99 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +101

    That's insane, really, creathing a visible logo INSIDE of a filament spool, with hardware that's DIY and accessible to a hobbyist? Man, you just keep on delivering bangers, your ingenuity is amazing

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    This is why I love this channel, most of the other channels I used to watch are either all doing Voron builds or reviewing the same printer that's been done a hundred times already.
    This channel is unique!

  • @cfeigel
    @cfeigel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The WInFiDEL sensor lets you measure filament diameter. Now you can implement a PID loop to automatically figure out the proper temperature at a given speed. If you want faster production, turn up the speed and the PID should correct for the change.

  • @kylebuffington7673
    @kylebuffington7673 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    So many new ideas continue to pop up in 3D printing. Non-planar printing, arc overhangs, and now you are showing off multi-material filaments. Ten years from now, 3D printing is going to be absolutely off the charts.

  • @XVRickXV
    @XVRickXV 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    You could think of the TPU as muscle and the PLA as bone and have them switch places. The tpu absorbing more impact on the outside and the PLA receiving less shock because of being shielded by the flexible TPU the same way that flesh protects bones most of the time. Awesome experiment!

    • @lickytime9683
      @lickytime9683 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The outside of the filament would also be bending more than the core, so having the outside made of tpu must be beneficial too

  • @not2unknown1
    @not2unknown1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    A PLA core with a water soluble PVA mantle could create interesting structures or grids when you print it and put it in water. Kind of like how aerogel is made, but bigger.

    • @ziocrielo6148
      @ziocrielo6148 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      3d printed sponge lol

    • @paulpoleon8570
      @paulpoleon8570 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Aero light plastic for rc plane wings or something

    • @ericbuchner2982
      @ericbuchner2982 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Unfortunately with the constant cross-section shown in the video I don't think this would give useable results. The core never bonds to itself, so if you dissolved the outer layer the entire print would just fall apart. It might work if you could vary the cross-section so the core sticks out in places, but that would be much harder to get working.

    • @markswayne6326
      @markswayne6326 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      If you printed it with stripes of PVA that are diagonal edge to edge but left solid PLA layers between, the PVA might be able to dissolve out while leaving behind a structure that wouldn’t come apart.

  • @lukesmith9059
    @lukesmith9059 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I would love to see more videos on metamaterials! If the stiffness of the tpu-pla is close to normal pla it would truly be the king of all printing materials for parts that don't need high temperature resistance.

  • @SamChaneyProductions
    @SamChaneyProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is one of the coolest advancements in consumer 3D printing tech I've seen in a long time. What a great innovation. Even as a mechanical engineer I'm a little surprised how well you got this to work with such a simple setup, especially getting such disparate polymers into a single filament!

  • @TurboSunShine
    @TurboSunShine 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Oh god i was so young back then... excellent technique! love the 4mm to 1.75 downsizing!

  • @loganluckless372
    @loganluckless372 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I work at a company called Hills inc. where we do cross section logo fibers and other wild multi extrusion projects. Cross section logo fibers like that are used a decent amount in industry by basically making a dot matrix on the core of each fiber and routing the colored polymer to it's place in the matrix.

    • @janbeck8269
      @janbeck8269 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How about filaments with an embedded cf or Kevlar strand. Is that done?

  • @Avets610
    @Avets610 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Always pushing the limits of 3d printing, great job. The watermark filament honestly blew my mind.

  • @domkri9502
    @domkri9502 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Every time you publish a Video it takes two days and your content is featured by all the 3D printing/ Maker Websites, this is amazing. Thanks for your R&D work and making it open to use for everyone Danke 🎉

  • @skelliton_67
    @skelliton_67 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The nylon string reducing in diameter when tensile force is applied is called "necking". I got this definition from google, "In engineering and materials science, necking is a mode of tensile deformation where relatively large amounts of strain localize disproportionately in a small region of the material. The resulting prominent decrease in local cross-sectional area provides the basis for the name neck."

  • @FTBT3D
    @FTBT3D 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    That TPU/PLA is so cool! what a great experiment

  • @MarcStollmeyer
    @MarcStollmeyer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Embedding your logo in the filament is such a flex and extra way of tagging your prints as genuine.

    • @capslfern2555
      @capslfern2555 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love that, watermarked 3D prints

    • @lucianoag999
      @lucianoag999 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except that everyone can do it.

  • @peterkiss1204
    @peterkiss1204 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would drill that nozzle up to at least 1,8-1,9mm and pull the filament at above the breakpoint of the diameter/pulling force curve to achieve correct diameter and fuse the layers together properly. Also a loadcell controlled motor driver circuit would help keeping the pulling force constant.

  • @swissfreek
    @swissfreek 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your videos are always amazingly thought-provoking. You come up with truly innovative concepts for investigation that no one (or very few) have talked about. I love it.

  • @TheToelle
    @TheToelle 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A CNC-Kitchen Video 🎉 my Evening is saved.. Why my evening? Because each one of them teaches me enough to continue reading for hours… thank you!

  • @arcrad
    @arcrad 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Dude you are the GOAT of 3d printing experiments. Is there anyone else out there doing stuff as cool?

  • @properprinting
    @properprinting 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man, this is genius! The most interesting use case I've seen for the Prusa XL and this really inspires!

  • @MrTree421
    @MrTree421 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have really outdone yourself with this video. The research you have done in this video is easily enough to write another master thesis. Outstanding!

  • @greenboy3d
    @greenboy3d 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    What a coincidence that we both made a video about mixing TPU with PLA at the same time hahaha 😅
    But I was a bit faster 🙃

    • @Craftlngo
      @Craftlngo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Upvote for more awareness. Your idea to mount a corkscrew extruder on a 3D printer could be a real game changer!

    • @mr.shplorb662
      @mr.shplorb662 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not to brag or anything

    • @csforesman
      @csforesman 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wow. So glad I saw this comment and went to check out your channel. As cool as the idea in this CNC kitchen video is (and no slight to Stefan, this really is a great idea), I think your pellet extruder has way more potential to revolutionize 3d printing. Amazing work.

    • @Nachtschicht1
      @Nachtschicht1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've recently seen your video about that and I think you deserve a lot more attention.
      What would you think about about combining your idea of direct printing from pellets with Stephan's filament-extruder and Thomas' thickness-sensor to regulate the speed of the extruder to match the amount of filament that the printer needs to build a printer which makes its own filament on the fly? That would solve the problems with the much heavier printhead and reduced printing-quality.

    • @greenboy3d
      @greenboy3d 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think this idea might work, there are also ideas like implementing a real-time pressure sensor or AI camera to measure the flow and to automatically adjust it in real time. The only thing that needs to be done is the research & development which is costly and since I have spent most of my savings on R&D for the extruder itself...
      For this reason I keep all these things in mind but for now focus on releasing the extruder so everyone can benefit from it... 🙂

  • @thomasleftwite
    @thomasleftwite 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You are a pioneer in expanding the possibilities for 3D printer users.

  • @supercurioTube
    @supercurioTube 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is absolutely amazing, I'm so impressed with what you came up with, so creative and well engineered at the same time.
    You ended on what you would try differently after exploring the reforming method and I can't wait for the next step.

  • @justintoleos
    @justintoleos 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow. packed with so many amazing concepts. Thank you CNC Kitchen!

  • @sleeptyper
    @sleeptyper 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have an idea. Make the filament have a clear core with transparent coloured shell, print a cool vase model on vase mode and find a way to send light thru the extruded filament. Maybe one of those 60mm LED pucks from eBay under the vase would do it.
    On the other hand, a black core with transparent shell could be very interesting as well.

  • @EXAPHI
    @EXAPHI 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep innovating Stefan, you're one of the main drivers helping to push open source additive manufacturing towards the future

  • @Alluvian567
    @Alluvian567 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is so cool. So glad you did this, as I do not have the equipment, expertise, or time to do something like this. Amazing.

  • @martinsmith2948
    @martinsmith2948 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Babe wake up! CNC Kitchen just uploaded

  • @DrakeTain
    @DrakeTain 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Now that is neat.

  • @Markfps
    @Markfps 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a crazy idea PLA + TPU core, amazing job man! This is surely a neat improvement for prints that will face a lot of physical stress

  • @fearlessmangoose3118
    @fearlessmangoose3118 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Amazing proof of concept. I love the macro shots in this video !

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    If its ever sold that TPU/PLA combo should be named Wagyu beef!

    • @Dwonis
      @Dwonis 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Having a flexible core and a hard surface is what makes teeth so tough... so it could be called Wagyu Teeth! 😂

  • @jkachele
    @jkachele 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hexagons are the best-agons! CGP Grey Reference!!!

  • @majorredbeard
    @majorredbeard 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of time that you put into these videos is truly astounding. Thank you so much for all of the dedication you have to 3D Printing!

  • @Bob-qr9se
    @Bob-qr9se 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on reaching the next level in 3D printing! Love your ingenuity ❤

  • @ouansungyidan
    @ouansungyidan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Omg he made his own metamaterial at home. Kind of freaking out right now. That's a research gold mine.

    • @louisvaught2495
      @louisvaught2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not particularly useful due to the high shear during production. That imparts unfavorable structure on the material.

    • @ouansungyidan
      @ouansungyidan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @louisvaught2495 That's a great point, the production method can be improved. But the concept is still amazing. Hobbyist accessible metamaterials. That's still got me excited.

    • @louisvaught2495
      @louisvaught2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ouansungyidan You can work a bit to remove the molecular alignment, but in general the process being used to *make* the structure is what limits the final properties. This particular process being so accessible and macro-scale means you don't have much molecular control over what's coming out.
      The part of the video where Stefan discusses having to keep the filament from getting too soft is a great indication that the process is really dependent on the molecular order of the polymer, rather than the process having any control over it.

  • @sephrosemary
    @sephrosemary 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Imagine finding a way to embed continious carbon fiber in a filament this way!

    • @UnCoolDad
      @UnCoolDad 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This exists already in the high end commercial printer world.

    • @olafschermann1592
      @olafschermann1592 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, thats the way! And opensource it

  • @wruehl
    @wruehl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love to watch you push the envelope in a meaningful way!

  • @mikepujols
    @mikepujols 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is some amazing stuff!! Just fills my head with sooo many ideas! Thank you so much for spreading your insights! theres still so much to learn!

  • @TheOneAndOnlySatan
    @TheOneAndOnlySatan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    And again Stephan changed the 3D printing world again! What a legend!

  • @stevvieb
    @stevvieb 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You got 4 halfs, I got 4 quarters, :)

  • @jeffharrison5265
    @jeffharrison5265 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was super interesting! I think you're onto something here with the TUP/PLA. Hope you pursue this further and provide some updates. Thanks.

  • @benrr101
    @benrr101 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is pretty cool! It's basically the same process confectioners use to make candies with logos and stuff in them, although they start with blanks like 10" in diameter and stretch them down by hand. Still very cool that this technique applies to plastics, too

  • @ChrisHarmon1
    @ChrisHarmon1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The wilder the hair gets, the better the engineering?

  • @charleseast2740
    @charleseast2740 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    stephan, this is phenomenal, I've been thinking about a way to get around the markforged patents for a while. I consistently enjoy watching your videos, i really like how thorough you are.

  • @Bbluenight
    @Bbluenight 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mind blowing, very cool tests! keep up the good work and thank you for sharing :)

  • @mckesn
    @mckesn 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every topic is wonderful and incredible, I really enjoy your videos, they give me ideas on many things, thank you.

  • @willofthemaker
    @willofthemaker 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yoooooo this is amazing. So many possibilities!
    Can even make longer rolls by fusing multiple coils together by melting hem together. Then the resizer does it's magic to smooth out the joint

  • @jacobhgoldman
    @jacobhgoldman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the update with an older experiment I think it would be cool to pull long strands of each material and line them up to form a pattern as a practical mass production setting.
    Also I think the thinning effect you talked about in the beginning is called strain elongation

  • @HerbanWarrior
    @HerbanWarrior 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That twisted 2 color where the colors shift is pretty awesome, that effect with another color could be really cool

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is quite possibly the coolest video you have ever made, and that's saying a lot! Wow!

  • @spacedbro
    @spacedbro 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Legitimately amazing work as usual!!

  • @klazzera
    @klazzera 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the phenomenon is yielding and chain alignment. when it stretches to the point that polymer chains are fully aligned, it reaches a higher modulus and strength and stops being the weak point so the thicker sections continue to stretch

  • @TrippyRiddimKid
    @TrippyRiddimKid 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recommended you do this a while back, not sure if you saw my comment or not, but Im glad some testing is being done, I dont have the equipment to do it myself.

  • @GabrielAmyot
    @GabrielAmyot 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the awesome research

  • @farfadet46
    @farfadet46 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow amazing work here ! thank you so mush !

  • @evilratchet777
    @evilratchet777 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Extrusion process engineer here. The phenomenon where you can stretch hot plastic is known as "drawdown." That's also the name of the process you are using. The simple explanation is that this phenomenon occurs due to internal tensions pulling material from the "corners" of the part to fill in the middle, where the material is splitting under tension. It helps to visualize it as a continuous landslide from the hilltops into a valley that keeps growing longer. You can also get something known as "die swell" as plastic expands due to the pressure drop at the die openings. Die swell isn't really something we have to consider with 3d printers, but it should be considered if you are extruding filament with an Archimedes type extruder.
    As for your filament layer bonding problems, you may be able to solve that by preheating the filament before drawing it down. Also try over-extruding your print by 3-5%, this should help layer bondability. Also, tension is everything. Pre-tensioning will help both the bondability, and help keep the filament from rotating during drawdown. The more aligned and balanced the tension is on either side of the nozzle, the more consistent the final filament turns out.
    Good luck, and keep up the amazing videos!
    "Like everything else in life, 3d printing is just a primitive, degenerate form of extruding." -Bender

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to try some of the TPU filled PLA to see how well it works in some unusual applications. It almost sounds like the ideal material for high impact prints.

  • @sapuseven
    @sapuseven 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the amount of innovation and experimentation in videos like this.

  • @dgriff4000
    @dgriff4000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Outstanding research. Bravo!

  • @capslfern2555
    @capslfern2555 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    im going to try this, looks cool

  • @Greg-J
    @Greg-J 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is probably the most impactful 3d printing video of the year and and it's just chilling in our feeds.

  • @elongatedmuskrat5170
    @elongatedmuskrat5170 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This effect is called necking. It comes from the alignment of polymer chains. The modulus of elasticity of the material also greatly increases when necking occurs as the aligned chains creates higher crystallinity. This can also occur in multiple steps of necking down the diameter until the stress required to force the diameter down via aligning the chains further is greater than the yield stress of the filament at that point.
    PS: as a polymer engineering student, i love your videos.

  • @jakubruzicka1686
    @jakubruzicka1686 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a cool and unique idea. Well done.

  • @christianerhard8875
    @christianerhard8875 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The phenomenon is called (unofficially) spaghetti straightening. Where the crosslinked/entangled polymer chains are pulled straight (aligned). This is from tensile pulling and makes the polymer longer and tougher!

  • @RolandKnall
    @RolandKnall 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is just crazy and unbelievable cool! I think Filament recycling will become more affordable quite soon as a side-effect of more and more such videos popping up. But in any case, as an Austrian: saugeile Technik!

  • @Kronash
    @Kronash 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    used work in a factory making plastics. the speed of the puller is Very important for final dimensions

  • @orephen
    @orephen 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super intresting thankyou for the hard work.

  • @CDRaff
    @CDRaff 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really like the twisted multi-color filament.

  • @m.frohlich2651
    @m.frohlich2651 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simply insane what possibilities it opens to combine different materials with different specs exactly into one product… 😮

  • @deliziosetiefkuhlkost2463
    @deliziosetiefkuhlkost2463 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please do a dedicated video about the strength and toughness of some filament combinations. I am definitely interested in the mechanical properties and think that it could lead to some promising future filaments

  • @YourComputerExpert
    @YourComputerExpert 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:05 The pulling force plays indeed a major role, in real filament factories they also have a measurement device at the end of the line which adjusts the pull speed to get the filament to the correct diameter.

  • @SixOThree
    @SixOThree 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have any suggestions but I can say this has been fun. Hopefully you will do a little bit more of this!

  • @beonyou
    @beonyou 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Clever research ! Multi-material point is brillant ! 👍

  • @jetblackstar
    @jetblackstar 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is just like a stick of rock, and how a lot of polymer clay art works. Very cool. Especially from a cottage industry researcher!
    The tpu/pla matrix blew my mind.

  • @SeabornNomad
    @SeabornNomad 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stefan (i'm sorry if i spelled it wrong.) you are a wonder worker. i've loved your content, it's always interesting, helpful or great applied research and development if you ask me. You're a printing scientist.

  • @xankersmith9194
    @xankersmith9194 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should try putting the Winfidel sensor in the feedback loop of an automatic controller for detecting filament thickness. It could actually be accurate compared with the pulling-a-paper-clip-and-hoping method.

  • @jan_harald
    @jan_harald 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think one interesting way to use this, is with multi-extrusion/dual-nozzle printers, themselves, printing a multi-layer spool
    as the nozzles are fixed, extruding from both, would mean the base printed spool would already have a changing pattern when printed with, but also, it should probably help with metamaterials, as you can have each material as their own perfect temp, without letting the other material cool down, both the changing position, not being in perfectly straight layers, and having both of them be hot while laid down, should greatly decrease the risk of delaminating, imho

  • @Jhongerage
    @Jhongerage 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is fantastic, there is so much scope for new printing materials. Also interested in additives in the process that are genuinely useful (unlike milled carbon fibre!). Microballoons for a start

  • @gustavoheck2378
    @gustavoheck2378 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think you should try TPU with a core of PETG for printing airless basketballs. So the TPU would get the perfect layer adhesion, while the PETG would make it bounce

  • @frank-af
    @frank-af 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've found that abs and tpu bond very well, if you're wanting to continue experimenting with that. Something like the Phaetus 78D TPU inside some ABS or ASA might make for incredibly strong parts

  • @GinoTubaro
    @GinoTubaro 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Abs outside, pva or any other soluble material inside could be a crazy tubing situation worth to research!

  • @UnexpectedMaker
    @UnexpectedMaker 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was super cool. Great perseverance to keep at it until you got each combo to a workable level.

  • @ZeFoxii
    @ZeFoxii 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For the layer adhesion issues why not pull it twice once to get the diameter and then again at a higher speed and hotter temp just to make sure it fused together.

  • @nightcorelore5648
    @nightcorelore5648 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    PLA with TPU core is something I would really like to play with. The strength test didn’t really surprise me, because that’s a genius design and it should probably be producible with the right tools (as semi proven here).
    People would definitely pay double for a full roll like that

  • @mikescholz6429
    @mikescholz6429 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ill have to look up when I get home, but theres an open source repo for an optical filament width sensor with 3 mirrors in a half hexagon configuration because you really need at least 3 different cross sections to get an accurate filament volume because roundness matters (if you want irresponsible accuracy)

  • @BakeBakePi
    @BakeBakePi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thats so cool! Great video!

  • @costa_marco
    @costa_marco 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To have a nice consistent diameter, you find a nice temperature and adjust the pulling force to match it.

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent research. Fascinating! Mahalo for sharing! ❤

  • @Stefun8D
    @Stefun8D 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    regarding the diameter issue, you are correct in that is because you are pulling the soft filament. This "could" be mitigated by cooling it directly at the nozzle output but I would recommend changing to a push method just like the hot ends of ffd printers.
    Edit; I didnt realize you had a different machine in the hot end setup, good idea.

  • @dalbyte
    @dalbyte 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you are mega innovative and completely out of intrinsic motivation it is very enjoyable to watch your videos