Asner and Brett's answers were technically correct, although not the exact word. Charles enclosed the word in a box, so it is a general and rightfully accepted. Debralee and Richard's answer, while specific, DID contain the word school, even though it's a grey area. Richard was correct. College is not the word 'school', but it is a higher form of the word. Patti's answer should have been accepted, as college classes could be scheduled at night, hence night school. Match Game's lax rules caused many problems. Take a look at the response in the final CBS episode. Gene said the contestant's answer had to be the exact match. She responded "Snug as a bug in a rug". Brett's answer was "Snug as a bug", and the judges accepted that answer.
@@jasonbeard4713 Since I wrote my comment 16 years ago (it just came up in my memories since you responded!), I've watched many episodes of MG on the Game Show Network, and they have been incredibly lax over the years. I saw answers that were far more diverse, rung up as matches. The contestant gave a blanket response which should have netted him 6 matches.
In fairness, it's not uncommon for British people to point at something with their middle finger, although I suspect that had someone questioned him, that would have been his cover story.
It was nice to see this clip in its entirety as opposed to bits and pieces that was shown on a game show special a few years back. This was classic, and Match Game is FOREVER!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!
Gene: Patti will you show us your answer? Patti: I'm afraid! LOL, this is probably the funniest thing ever. Debralee and Richard made me laugh so hard, as did Charles. LOVE THEM ALL!!!!
Dawson gets a lot of crap for this little episode, but honestly, I think it was warranted. And he seems to be genuinely pissed that the contestant is getting screwed.
choclytgremlins He wanted the fair outcome on both MG and FF. If you want another prime example of bad judging look up Match Game 77 Richard Explodes Again. Its just like this. The contestant gave the answer of 'bag'. Some celebs wrote paper bag/sack which were considered matches. Richard wrote plastic baggie and was buzzed. Ira refused to match him since paper and plastic dont match. But the contestant never specified a particular bag. As long as its a bag shoudlnt it match???? Richard got a bit agitated that time too and rightly so.
CULTURED pearls would certainly fit (go to) "finishing school" perfectly! And "night school" fits because of the idea of education. I think Charles was allowed because he circled "school", he's designated the main part of his answer that way before. The judge's decisions were outrageous, an exact answer wasn't required for first and second round questions.
My impression is that the Dawson/Producer conflicts on MG/FF came from the fact that Richard always had the contestant's back no matter what. The producers didn't like it because it cost them prize money/fed Richard's ego, but at the same time, Richard knew that the whole point of the game was for the contestants to relax, have fun, and win some money. I really think a lot of the stories about Richard Dawson being some monstrous egomaniac are either false or grossly exaggerated by Hollywood execs who thought they ruled the world. Watch Howie Felscher in the Family Feud doc on E! and tell me that's a reliable witness.
Really? How so? Was it the selection of the second question? Question 1 would always suck and one of the two round two questions would be a 6 out of 6 er and the other one would be "pick a number", just to try and prevent ties. Where was the fixing?
The best answer was finishing school. Since the pearls were cultured and back in that era, girls were sent to finishing school to BE cultured so they could catch a good husband.
But "finishing school" is a type of school, as is "scuba diving school" (which bizarrely, WAS accepted!). They're all types of school, therefore they are all correct.
According to Webster's Dictionary, "finishing school Function: noun Date: 1832 : a private school for girls that emphasizes cultural studies and prepares students especially for social activities" He should have got all 6. Night school is classes at night.
There's a reason why this is my favorite game show of all time, and this is it. Everyone fights for the answers to match the contestants, and sometimes, it gets downright weird.
The judge probably did it that way because Charles added on Scuba as a joke while thinking of the answer school. Thusly the reason school is boxed in. Where as the other three were meant to be a bit more specific. But yes that DEFINATELY should have been 6/6.
Everyone is missing the reasoning the judge was using. A scuba diver would find pearls, which was the subject of Dora's stupidity; so there were two matches in that answer. "Night school" only has one match, and it's tenuous.
Actually, Richard left Match Game to pursue hosting Family Feud full-time. Good catch with the middle finger, though. It definetely looks deliberate...and the censors missed it.
"Scuba diving school" and "finishing school" are completely different things. The judges were right to not let the contestant get away with having a guess be so vague that it matches 2 completely different answers.
@@KingMacintosh2 What I said was exactly the judge's reasoning, and it makes sense. You can even hear him say "it's a different kind of school" at 3:28 from off-screen.
@@KingMacintosh2 I'll try one more time: The judges will not allow a contestant's guess to match 2 completely different answers, so once his guess was matched to "scuba diving school," it couldn't also be matched to "finishing school" (because a scuba diving school and a finishing school are different things). You can disagree with the judge if you want, but that was their reasoning.
All six answers should have matched. This was not the prototypical MG situation of not allowing a general-to-specific. The key element here is that the celebs were just trying to color their answers up to be clever...I mean seriously, did Charles really think the contestant was going to say "scuba diving school?" The judge was just dead wrong here.
In case anyone was wondering, this contestant lost this game, but he was brought back during a later episode. I don't quite remember the outcome of that one.
Unfortunately, not they should not have. The rule was used multiple times throughout the series. No general to specific matches - so CNR's answer should have been disallowed as well, despite the stress on the term itself. College is a synonym of school, and is therefore acceptable. Rough, but it is consistent.
Scuba Diving School was accepted for School, yet Night School and Finishing School was not accepted for school?!? YET, a Party Girl is considered a Hooker? I've seen some bad judging calls in the past, but I think this was the worst of such cases. I'm just watching this episode right now on the GSN Marathon and I still can't believe it!
If I'm not mistaken, they invited the guy back on a later show, and admitted that it was a gaf not giving him credit for the three other points eh should have had
As I recall this was the BIGGEST bone of contention between the judges, the panelists and the contests-trying to match a general answer with one that wasmore specific.
HERE`S my summary on it he (the contestant) said school, school could mean any type of school doesn`t matter thus he should of got all 6. Maybe the judge should go to judge school LOL
That is just unreal that CNR was able to reverse the decision and then Richard literally is in the same boat and what the hell, it’s not acceptable for him?
The dude playing said SCHOOL! NOT COLLEGE, Okay I'll contend that college is like School but every answer with the word SCHOOL SHOULD'VE been accepted!
I wish we had more gameshows like this. They should consider revitalizing the Match Game, maybe put people like Regis Philbin, Bob Saget, all I can think of right now.
I remember the B questions were always slam dunks, usually the punchlines to famous jokes. Almost on the level of "Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other (blank)."
The problem came from accepting "scuba diving school". That should not have happened. The preliminary rounds do have a broader scope of acceptable answers, but just any type of school shouldn't automatically count. If a celebrity had said "mortician's school" should that match? Since "college" was okay should "clown college" be? If it's only about the word "school" then "the school of hard knocks" surely must, must, must be fine. The contestant had the correct amount of matches, though it should have been Edward, Brett, and Patti.
The contestant's answer was so general, the judges assumed he meant regular school, so that was why college was taken and not finishing school. MY OPINION, since he gave a general term, ALL ANSWERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACEPTED!
This really makes no sense. Debralee says "Finishing School" and it matches. Richard says "School of Finishing" (even though he wrote Finishing School) and it doesn't match. Obviously everyone drank their lunch that day!
WoW. I'm with Richard when he said he couldn't believe it! If they allowed Scuba diving school, they should of allowed any kind of school. finishing school, night school, dance school, art school, charm school, the list could go on forever!! either the judges were idiots, or they really didnt want that guy to win!!
I think the guy should have gotten all 6 matches. How the judge could decide "college" is the same as "school" but "school" is not, is beyond me.
Asner and Brett's answers were technically correct, although not the exact word. Charles enclosed the word in a box, so it is a general and rightfully accepted. Debralee and Richard's answer, while specific, DID contain the word school, even though it's a grey area. Richard was correct. College is not the word 'school', but it is a higher form of the word. Patti's answer should have been accepted, as college classes could be scheduled at night, hence night school. Match Game's lax rules caused many problems. Take a look at the response in the final CBS episode. Gene said the contestant's answer had to be the exact match. She responded "Snug as a bug in a rug". Brett's answer was "Snug as a bug", and the judges accepted that answer.
@@jasonbeard4713 Since I wrote my comment 16 years ago (it just came up in my memories since you responded!), I've watched many episodes of MG on the Game Show Network, and they have been incredibly lax over the years. I saw answers that were far more diverse, rung up as matches. The contestant gave a blanket response which should have netted him 6 matches.
This is the greatest injustice in the history of the world.
Love seeing how much fun Debralee was having inciting the riot
Richard flipped the judges off at 2:57
William Fuselier LMAO
In fairness, it's not uncommon for British people to point at something with their middle finger, although I suspect that had someone questioned him, that would have been his cover story.
He did that often on the Feud too, I think it’s just the finger he points with
Dumb Dora is do dumb?
@@MegaZeldafan1 how dumb is she?
I can NEVER get tired of watching this show over and over. Never seen this one. He should have got ALL 6!
Dumb Dora is SO dumb!
Yes I agree 😮
It was nice to see this clip in its entirety as opposed to bits and pieces that was shown on a game show special a few years back. This was classic, and Match Game is FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!
I really LOVE how "judge" asked Charles Nelson Riley 'did you mean school & his response was What does S.C.H.O.O.L spell!?! :)
The contestant was invited back soon afterwards and won a 6-4 tiebreaker.
STUPID JUDGE!! THAT CONTESTANT GOT ALL SIX MATCHES!!!!!
I like how Debralee and Richard were fighting for the contestant. He got screwed over.
4:42 - Put your cards down now! LOL
can you imagine what if the panel walks off the set due to this
One of the most wildest reactions to wrong answers. Loved it!
Right answers!
Gene: Patti will you show us your answer?
Patti: I'm afraid!
LOL, this is probably the funniest thing ever. Debralee and Richard made me laugh so hard, as did Charles. LOVE THEM ALL!!!!
Debralee and Richard started a riot.
Dawson gets a lot of crap for this little episode, but honestly, I think it was warranted. And he seems to be genuinely pissed that the contestant is getting screwed.
choclytgremlins He wanted the fair outcome on both MG and FF. If you want another prime example of bad judging look up Match Game 77 Richard Explodes Again. Its just like this. The contestant gave the answer of 'bag'. Some celebs wrote paper bag/sack which were considered matches. Richard wrote plastic baggie and was buzzed. Ira refused to match him since paper and plastic dont match. But the contestant never specified a particular bag. As long as its a bag shoudlnt it match???? Richard got a bit agitated that time too and rightly so.
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CULTURED pearls would certainly fit (go to) "finishing school" perfectly! And "night school" fits because of the idea of education. I think Charles was allowed because he circled "school", he's designated the main part of his answer that way before. The judge's decisions were outrageous, an exact answer wasn't required for first and second round questions.
My impression is that the Dawson/Producer conflicts on MG/FF came from the fact that Richard always had the contestant's back no matter what. The producers didn't like it because it cost them prize money/fed Richard's ego, but at the same time, Richard knew that the whole point of the game was for the contestants to relax, have fun, and win some money. I really think a lot of the stories about Richard Dawson being some monstrous egomaniac are either false or grossly exaggerated by Hollywood execs who thought they ruled the world. Watch Howie Felscher in the Family Feud doc on E! and tell me that's a reliable witness.
Dumb Dora is SO dumb!?
They accepted College...they even accepted scuba diving school...but they would not take finishing or night school??? I call bullshit!
the panel should have walked out in protest
The fair thing to have done would be to award everyone who had "school" in some form, and dock "college" giving the contestant four total.
I agree a thousand percent.
If it was that much of a judgement call issue, throw the question out and replace it.
The judge needs to go to "judge school.
Ira was very well aware of his actions. They were on purpose and not fair in any regard.
Match Game is more than just a game show. That's truth.
2:56 Yeah! You give them the finger, Richard!
I'm sure someone mentioned this, but I LOVE how Richard surreptitiously flips off the judge at 2:58.
Game show chaos at its finest. A truly classic clip, thanks for sharing.
BUZZ on Finishing School? That judge must not have learned well
Match Game was notorious for being one of the most fixed shows since the late-50's scandals. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
Really? How so? Was it the selection of the second question? Question 1 would always suck and one of the two round two questions would be a 6 out of 6 er and the other one would be "pick a number", just to try and prevent ties. Where was the fixing?
The best answer was finishing school. Since the pearls were cultured and back in that era, girls were sent to finishing school to BE cultured so they could catch a good husband.
I think this judge is currently employed as a National Football League referee.
For those who don't know, I have found out that one of the panelists in this, Brett Somers, has passed away just recently. She was 83. RIP, Brett.
Both Charles and Brett passed away in the same year. 2007.Brett in December. CNR in May.
The only Match Game regulars that are still alive are Brett and Richard. Charles has died.
But "finishing school" is a type of school, as is "scuba diving school" (which bizarrely, WAS accepted!). They're all types of school, therefore they are all correct.
According to Webster's Dictionary, "finishing school
Function: noun
Date: 1832
: a private school for girls that emphasizes cultural studies and prepares students especially for social activities" He should have got all 6. Night school is classes at night.
whenever there's a dumb dora question, dora the explorer comes to mind
I mean she was kind of dumb. Asking where the bridge was when it was right behind her 🙄
There's a reason why this is my favorite game show of all time, and this is it. Everyone fights for the answers to match the contestants, and sometimes, it gets downright weird.
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Well.. not everyone. Some of them came up with stupid answers just go get laughs.
@stargate121 Very subtle when doing so, don't you think? No one else caught it apparently.
Betty was a semi-regular, along with the late Debralee Scott and Patti Deutsch on this clip.
Anyone have the clip that would show us what became of this after the commercial break, and what the score turned out to be?
The judge probably did it that way because Charles added on Scuba as a joke while thinking of the answer school. Thusly the reason school is boxed in. Where as the other three were meant to be a bit more specific. But yes that DEFINATELY should have been 6/6.
They asked him back a few weeks later. He lost that time too.
They should have threw the whole question out and started again.
Ira was the producer and he made them suffer through his little mind games when he felt like playing them...
@@KingMacintosh2Ira is so awful! I understand why Richard wanted out
They should have at least brought him back for another chance. That would have been the fair thing to do.
brickmanonj they did if memory serves me right.
The judge was so inconsistent it wasn't funny. How do you accept "scuba diving school" and not "finishing school" or "night school"?
Because Charles had the word "School" boxed in in his answer, but Debralee, Richard, and Patti did not. That's how the hilarious chaos happened.
College is not spelled school
Everyone is missing the reasoning the judge was using. A scuba diver would find pearls, which was the subject of Dora's stupidity; so there were two matches in that answer. "Night school" only has one match, and it's tenuous.
@@heddalee There was no reasoning, idiot.
A classic indeed! Even TV Guide recognized it as a fantastic clip!
Actually, Richard left Match Game to pursue hosting Family Feud full-time. Good catch with the middle finger, though. It definetely looks deliberate...and the censors missed it.
Agreed. Either that or all the answers should have been rejected.
The subtle irony in the inconsistent judging was just plain bizarre.
it would have been great if the contestant and the panel walked out
"First victim of school riot. Man with shirt inside out. Found on school steps"
Actually, there was ONE judge on "Match Game" - producer Ira Skutch, and this was probably the BIGGEST mistake during his time on the show!
"Scuba diving school" and "finishing school" are completely different things. The judges were right to not let the contestant get away with having a guess be so vague that it matches 2 completely different answers.
LOL no... you have no idea wtf you're talking about.
@@KingMacintosh2 What I said was exactly the judge's reasoning, and it makes sense. You can even hear him say "it's a different kind of school" at 3:28 from off-screen.
@@rp4658 Again, you're clueless.
@@KingMacintosh2 I'll try one more time: The judges will not allow a contestant's guess to match 2 completely different answers, so once his guess was matched to "scuba diving school," it couldn't also be matched to "finishing school" (because a scuba diving school and a finishing school are different things). You can disagree with the judge if you want, but that was their reasoning.
School is a school is a school. Should have had 5 points /dings!
"I think you gotta take the 'College' from 'em as well, then we'll REALLY have a riot!"
He got hosed. The telling sign was the last answer "night school" which is of course..still SCHOOL!! in it's purest form :)
All six answers should have matched. This was not the prototypical MG situation of not allowing a general-to-specific. The key element here is that the celebs were just trying to color their answers up to be clever...I mean seriously, did Charles really think the contestant was going to say "scuba diving school?" The judge was just dead wrong here.
Yeah - I noticed the middle finger: Not so subtle and probably why the judges didn't reverse their decision.
The late Mark Goodson and Bill Todman sure did that to poor Ira.
Love this show
Richard, Bret, Charles = CLASSIC TV
Wouldn't cultured pearls go to the opera?
This contestant was ripped off.
School is school...no matter what type of school it is
The scoring system on Who's Line is it Anyway has more credibility
Steve Darius 😆🤣😂😅
In case anyone was wondering, this contestant lost this game, but he was brought back during a later episode. I don't quite remember the outcome of that one.
That's a common occurrence if they feel there was some inconsistency or mistake in a ruling
th-cam.com/video/FlfX2FdYYck/w-d-xo.html
Patti was hesitant.
Family Feud started in '76 two years before he left Match Game
Yeah, really. They don't give the conclusion. From what I read, Dawson walked off the show because of this incident.
It was warranted. They said various forms of school, and yet, they marked a lot of those answers as wrong. That player should have swept the board.
Terrible judging. The question should have been tossed out and replaced.
Or just correct the judge's error and give the contestant credit for the additional three correct answers on the bottom row.
Definitely.
I've watched this several times, just one thing did THE GUY WIN THE GAME???
No, and the contestant that did win was met with the quietest audience cheers in Match Game history.
dang, that's not right. What do the Russians say about this?
James Bonnen They invited the contestant again at a later date.
He was brought back. He lost again.
Unfortunately, not they should not have. The rule was used multiple times throughout the series. No general to specific matches - so CNR's answer should have been disallowed as well, despite the stress on the term itself. College is a synonym of school, and is therefore acceptable. Rough, but it is consistent.
Charles was onto something with "Scuba diving school," if you recall the cultured pearls in the question.
Psycho Ira, getting his loosh feed from the negative attention.
The judge was the producer. He wouldn't fire himself.
Scuba Diving School was accepted for School, yet Night School and Finishing School was not accepted for school?!? YET, a Party Girl is considered a Hooker? I've seen some bad judging calls in the past, but I think this was the worst of such cases. I'm just watching this episode right now on the GSN Marathon and I still can't believe it!
Scuba diving was allowed because a diver would find pearls. The other answers were only vaguely useful.
College got accepted
If I'm not mistaken, they invited the guy back on a later show, and admitted that it was a gaf not giving him credit for the three other points eh should have had
The guy ended up losing the game, and I don't think he was invited back as a result of this.
Hey! Teacher, leave those kids alone!
Notice that they still counted Charles's SCUBA DIVING School answer. The judges were not consistent.
If I was Goodson, I would've been there that day and Ira would've been out of his MG job.
Ira was either a producer or executive producer. You can find his exact title in the credits. He may have yielded a lot of clout.
As I recall this was the BIGGEST bone of contention between the judges, the panelists and the contests-trying to match a general answer with one that wasmore specific.
Geezus...I just responded to a 14-year-old comment. Feeling older every day.
HERE`S my summary on it he (the contestant) said school, school could mean any type of school doesn`t matter thus he should of got all 6. Maybe the judge should go to judge school LOL
Wild clip! And that guy should've gotten 6 for 6!
What does S C H O O L spell?!
I'm with Richard and the other 2! They should have given it to him!!!
That is just unreal that CNR was able to reverse the decision and then Richard literally is in the same boat and what the hell, it’s not acceptable for him?
The dude playing said SCHOOL! NOT COLLEGE, Okay I'll contend that college is like School but every answer with the word SCHOOL SHOULD'VE been accepted!
Ira (?) was a complete knob.
I wish we had more gameshows like this. They should consider revitalizing the Match Game, maybe put people like Regis Philbin, Bob Saget, all I can think of right now.
I remember the B questions were always slam dunks, usually the punchlines to famous jokes. Almost on the level of "Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other (blank)."
I know this is really old, and I'm not sure if it's been said, but I read somewhere that the contestant was allowed to return for another episode
@Kinoakim You're wrong. I am an expert. And Match Game was fixed. That's why they had to change the way they judged answers half way through its run.
Fixed? Towards whom?
The problem came from accepting "scuba diving school". That should not have happened. The preliminary rounds do have a broader scope of acceptable answers, but just any type of school shouldn't automatically count. If a celebrity had said "mortician's school" should that match? Since "college" was okay should "clown college" be? If it's only about the word "school" then "the school of hard knocks" surely must, must, must be fine.
The contestant had the correct amount of matches, though it should have been Edward, Brett, and Patti.
The show where the contestant was invited back is accessible here: th-cam.com/video/FlfX2FdYYck/w-d-xo.html
help, it cuts off at 4 minutes and 2 seconds....
The contestant's answer was so general, the judges assumed he meant regular school, so that was why college was taken and not finishing school. MY OPINION, since he gave a general term, ALL ANSWERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACEPTED!
What if one of the panelists said UNIVERSITY, would that be an acceptable answer?
Whats a cultured pearl? This question makes no sense?
God doesn't like anarchy.
This really makes no sense. Debralee says "Finishing School" and it matches. Richard says "School of Finishing" (even though he wrote Finishing School) and it doesn't match. Obviously everyone drank their lunch that day!
it would have been great if they had walked out
WoW. I'm with Richard when he said he couldn't believe it! If they allowed Scuba diving school, they should of allowed any kind of school. finishing school, night school, dance school, art school, charm school, the list could go on forever!! either the judges were idiots, or they really didnt want that guy to win!!