I just have to tell you Rob. I was listening to this video while my 2 y.o son and I were eating dinner. All of a sudden he just keeps saying "Doctor" over and over again! That's the first time he's ever said a superhero/villain name and he picks Doctor Doom of all things! Thanks Rob!
Very biblical! Ecclesiastes 8:9 states that man has dominated man to his injury. Which is why we need to be subjugated under God's government. Left to our own devices, we ruin everything 😔
I'm glad someone finally remembered this story existed. Read this a long time ago, and bought the graphic novelization. It's what I point to when anyone says Doom's not a good leader. The man solved the world, and only let it go cause he got bored...
Yeah. Doom is honestly a good leader. However... His methods are not great. Especially here, where he manipulates everyone into letting him climb to the top. If he honestly went through the proper channels, in the real world? He'd probably improve the world quite a bit. He wouldn't lead the entire world, no, but he could massively improve it.
After people regained free will and grasped what Doom did.. I’d imagine that “Doom Was Right” memes would be all over the internet and t-shirts would be selling like hot cakes.
@ezaf5989 he busy helping me tag team your older sister and your moms. But check it out now that you here, pick us up a case of Pedialyte the strawberry kind. From what it's looking it's fena be a day or 2 . So if your pops or your brother-in-law ask if you seen or heard from your moms n sis 🤫🤐 their in good 👐s take notes 🤞had both of them squirting with my fingers
I was a fan of Godzilla way before I started reading comic books. Superhero stories are great and all but we got to get rid of the op mfers . Thor Superman all these unbeatable people got the f****** go.e hero has no weaknesses unrelatable
Hey Rob - the way I see it, even Doom feels his victory is hollow and he is unsatisfied. He doesn't feel the way he expected. He knows the world is changed but in an artifical manner. The real victory would be to truly convince the world to do what he suggests and have them choose to do it. Hawkeye at the end reflects this, because humanity has the power to go either way, but due to the nature of free will, they won't know until time rolls on. Doom reminds me of myself when I use cheat codes on a video game. I'm loving it for about ten minutes, then I feel like I've cheated myself of the challenge and satisfaction of overcoming the difficulty. It would have been nice to see Doom's personal reflections on these events and how he might influence or manipulate those same positive changes to the world without using any secret schemes, just Doom as the respected leader of Latveria sharing wisdom and foresight, and maybe resources to make it happen.
Doom is actually a deserving, intellectual and hard working guy. He doesn't have any super powers but he competes against the entire Avengers by himself.
Doom has, inherently, some of the most potent magic on the planet that his mom made a deal with Mephisto to give Doom. Those are superpowers. Go read some comics, please.
Theres an episode of earths mightiest heroes called emperor stark thats an absolute adaptation of this story. I had never read this so i didnt realise until now. That show is so good. I wonder how many other adaptations there are. It respects the hell out of the souce material. I really wish we could brimg that show back. I think its the best marvel animated project by a mile. I know that people might think thats a hot take but its how i feel.
By all accounts, history and modern business has shown that dictatorships are a very effective form of management. But as the volume of things needing oversight increases the effectiveness is diminished based upon the experience and intelligence of that dictator. This is why we see small businesses often function better than corporations and why the world had fewer wars and a better quality of life when you had countries divided into smaller kingdoms with a government overseeing a population. Even in those situations the limited scope of authority meant a corrupt leader would drive away their subjects due to it being easy for a citizen to uproot and move to another kingdom thereby creating an incentive for leaders to be servants of their people rather than exploiters of them.
This was a kinder, gentler Secret Empire- including the question that you ask here. I’ll used the logic that you espoused in your Secret Empire posts here - if people are forced to do the right thing instead of doing it using their own free will, at some point, they will rebel and all of that imposed order will devolve into disorder. In the end, humanity wouldn’t have learnt anything. If you think about it, Marvel has been consistent in saying that you can't Super hero or Super villain society to a better state. We cannot rely on one man, one ideology, one country to make the world a better place. We have to do it, individually, then as a group then as a world.
So long as the purple man remained alive, everyones will would be bent to doom without question. After purpleman dies, thats no longer true. They wouldn't rebel unless doom ordered it to be. Thats why doom eventually got so bored he just let it all fall apart. Because they wouldn't do anything out of doom's order of "obtaining peace and prosperity for all" The imposed order wasn't because doom took over on his own merits. He took over using the mind controlling powers of purpleman. Outside of those few loose ends he took care of, everyone was under his control and were absolutely obedient.
No, they prove that Doom is an egomaniac psychopath who is so out of touch that he thinks mindless puppets under his control as the best possible world. Typical lazy villain takeover plan. Mind control everyone, Infinite Tsukuyomi, Etc. Doom sucks.
Doom 2099 was an excellent comic. Yes in it Doom was slightly out of touch with the people yet he changed and saw what the world needed was someone to "guide" it. One Nation Under Doom was a great storyline.
@@DonnieHanby"Doom Sucks" is certainly a hot take from the fella, but they aren't "wrong". A world of mind controlled slaves is just terrible. You can polish that turd if you wish, but its still a turd. It is also very lazy. Not in writing, but in Dooms solution. He didn't "make peace and prosperity", he moved puppets on a stage. The problems are all still there, just buried under a blanket of lies and slavery. The arrogance of how you responded though, feels as if despite all the 4 dollar words, you just don't know wtf your talking about, or are being purposely disingenuous. It's common these days, when emotion is the default setting for many people's thoughts and opinions. Edit: auto spell correct,, fill or whatever, replaced "blanket" with mofo "blankey". Like the damned robot was 4 years old 🤣🤣🍻
@@redsledgeblu5234 Tell me you did not read my initial post without telling me you did not read my initial post. You and the person who said Doom sucks are both guilty of it. I stated that both Emperor Doom AND Doom 2099 proved that he can fix the world's problems. If you had read Doom 2099, then you would know that no mind control was done in it. So yes, I made a mocking reply to him since he chose to only read what he wanted to. So, with that being said, then I appreciate your projection about not knowing what I am talking about since that seems to be something you are more than likely guilty of. Or else just being deliberately obtuse.
Honestly, im siding with Dr Doom on this one. Stopping Doom is cool and all, but whats the *Better* solution to what Doom did? Not finding a BETTER solution and allowing things to go back to "normal" was the problem. Dr Doom and Hawkeye had a great point
I loved the episode in Avengers EMH that takes almost direct inspiration from this story, "Emperor Stark". Trade Wonder Man for Vision and Doom for Stark and it is essentially the same story. Well Purple Man wasn't captured either, but still very similar story.
In the Doomwar event versus Black Panther, Dr. Doom reveals he has looked at many different alternate timelines of Earth and in all cases Earth ends up being destroyed except in those instances in which he has conquered the planet. Dr. Doom feels like his rule is the only thing that saves everyone/everything. Its what fuels his quest for power. Also check out What If #1: What if Doom won the Secret Wars. Its another pinnacle story of how far Doom will go to rule and what ultimately happens in his quest to save everything. That issue alongside Emperor Doom show him at his finest. Doom is one of my all time favorite characters 🍺
@1mezion The late 80's- early 90's did a lot of things to the Avengers but Iron Man always held it down. Much respect brother. I knew from memory that it was MK3 but Google kept telling me it was MK33.
That begs the biggest question, would you rather have free will thus having potential chaos around every corner, or be controlled into be an equality peaceful way of living?
@@chrisgamer9099 tbf, I'd pick freedom. While a tranquil world is certainly better, idk if being robbed of my will could be considered living. I'm also aware that this is probably the more selfish choice. Hate to say it, but doom had the right idea of unifying the world. It's just his methods are abhorrent
On the animated show Avengers EMH this plot is used for an episode, but it's Vision shut down for 30 days for self repairs but when he comes back online everyone is being controlled by the Purple Man!
Doom : "my greatest weakness is that I surround myself with fools" Me : "thats not your greatest wekness" Doom : "Then what is it"? Me : "You're an asshole".
I feel like Avenger Doomsday should have several teams in action, each team has at least 2 loved characters to unite the fandom: The Thunderbolts (Yelena, US Agent, Bucky, Ghost, Taskmaster, Sentry, Red Guardian) Fantastic Four (Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing) West Coast Avengers (Hawkeye, Vision, Shang Shi, War Machine, Wonderman, Antman, Captain Marvel) Mighty Avengers (Captain America, Spiderman, Thor, Hulk, Black Panther, Wong, Falcon) Fantastic Four (Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing) X-Men (Cyclops, Storm, Jean Gray, Beast, Iceman, Colossus, Photon, Binary) Dr. Strange, Clea, and America Chavez on their own adventure thru the multiverse Then after Doomsday they can make the movies take place in different parts of Battleworld. Spiderman 4 can take place in a massive Manhattan composed of many different versions of NY The Blade movie can take place in an area of Battleworld that is filled with darkness and monsters. In Dr. Strange 3 we see Dr Strange trying to cope with his failure to save the multiverse. Finally in Secret Wars it can be about Tom Holland Spiderman, Dr Strange, and Mr. Fantastic (Who's family has actually been taken by Dr. Doom to be his own family), recruiting Multiversal heroes to fight the different barons of Battleworld to release the enslaved heroes who have forgotten how they got to Battleworld by Dr Doom. Team 1: Wolverine, Toby McGuire Spiderman, Thor and Ghost Rider (Nic Cage) have to fight the Maestro (Played by Eric Bana) in the Wastelands. Team 2: Deadpool, Tom Holland Spiderman (Black Suit), Blade (Mahershala Ali), and Andrew Garfield Spiderman end up in zombie territory (cameo fest of zombified marvel characters) Team 3: Dr Strange, Mr. Fantastic, Captain Marvel and Prof X (James Macavoy) have to fight King Magneto (Michael Fassbender) in Genosha, we also get to see Evan Peters Quicksilver, and the younger xmen from the 2010's as citizens of Genosha
17:16 and 17:32 It's not just wonder man who doesn't need to breathe. Colossus doesn't breathe when he's in his armor form. As long as he's in his armor form he does not require oxygen and that can go on indefinitely.
Listening to this, this just reminds me of the Earths Mightiest Heros cartoon. Probably this is the story they used, especially the scene forcing Cap to watch the screens Also Rob, I believe ultron has joined the avengers rn in the comics
Julian McMahon is still the best Doom portrayal we have seen so far imo. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see the duality of his character and power that he’s been granted in comics over recent years to make him one of the best anti hero’s. RDJ is still iron man to me haha
I think the question has a bogus premise. That peace and prosperity under Doom would never work out that way. Due to human nature, even dictators eventually fail. Entropy rules all systems.
If they are forced to become better by a single ruler. When that ruler falls, for whatever reason, no telling if humanity won’t go back to their old tricks. We have to get there on our own. And remember, Doom will do that but will flay the skin of the first person that disagrees with him
That was a good story, I did feel bad for the Purple Man having to be held captive, I wonder if they could have harnessed his powers without ruining his existence.
I would LOVE to see a story. where the Avengers and FF finally came to the conclusion that "Look, Doom has spent his entire life figuring out how to save the world from itself, maybe we should let him try", and, as they say, going to Doom first.
5:45 we should all remember that ions are actually charges of particles which is a form of electricity. It would be interesting if Marvel ever looked at how that all worked with all of the various people from Thor, magneto, storm, and other characters who can manipulate lightning, electricity on various levels . Wonderman would be interesting if the writers showed his powers in that fashion
12:01 that moment would never happen. Those blasted are all trying shoots are so devastating that it could actually kill superhuman beings. This must be what if story.
Thats crazy. The new Dr Doom Series is on its way. I just read Storm issue #3 and at the end of the issue World Emperor Doom request a audience with Storm. Interesting
This situation is an interesting paradox, but hopefully it will be settled peacefully without resorting to mind control. And while I may hope for better times in a future generation, there isn't much I can do about it aside from doing my best to be the best version of myself now. I wish I could give a better response, I really do. But, despite his villainous means of getting control, I do give kudos to Doom for following through on his beneficent claims. That part of his plan was genuinely noble.
He danced a little in Wandavision I think right? Pretty sure, but it was a more romantic and slow dance if I remember correctly. I think it was when they were in black and white still.
Scott Adams has said the best form of government would be something like a Beneficial Dictator. One person with absolute authority who rules with only the wellbeing of the people in mind. Unfortunately, we know absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I imagine there’s only three realms, where DR.DOOM wins. Such as in one realm where all the villains rule almost all of the world. The second realm, where a variant of (Victor Von Doom) is a hero, and most of the known heroes, their variants are villains in it. The third realm, is where a variant of Victor, becomes Emperor Doom, and his rein as a ruler lasts for six years, then later he is eliminated by Anti-Heroes.
I just have to tell you Rob. I was listening to this video while my 2 y.o son and I were eating dinner. All of a sudden he just keeps saying "Doctor" over and over again! That's the first time he's ever said a superhero/villain name and he picks Doctor Doom of all things! Thanks Rob!
Aww, that's so heart warming ❤️
I wish the little man well. Take care, fellow earth-dweller and TH-cam user!
✌🏻 Peace
From Calcutta, India
Doom would approve. 😄
If your kid wants to be a doctor when he grows up, no harm, right?
Very biblical! Ecclesiastes 8:9 states that man has dominated man to his injury. Which is why we need to be subjugated under God's government. Left to our own devices, we ruin everything 😔
@@azoli.begone you witless prot
"WE'VE BEEN HAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" I've never laughed harder than I should have lmao
Shit was so deeply ingrained Clint felt betrayed LMAO
got that "THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE" energy
I'm glad someone finally remembered this story existed. Read this a long time ago, and bought the graphic novelization. It's what I point to when anyone says Doom's not a good leader. The man solved the world, and only let it go cause he got bored...
I remember this story when I was a kid and gave the series to my teacher and he told me Doom has his vote 😂😂
Yeah. Doom is honestly a good leader. However... His methods are not great. Especially here, where he manipulates everyone into letting him climb to the top. If he honestly went through the proper channels, in the real world? He'd probably improve the world quite a bit. He wouldn't lead the entire world, no, but he could massively improve it.
ILY Rob spent a lot of cold cold days with ya when I worked hvac now I have a cushy work from home job, cheers from Indiana brother
Unironically Doom needs to take over the world right now because of how bananas everything is 😭
His South Africa decision happened and was a giant mistake.
He was controlling the world not them so South Africa wouldn't be a shit hole like it is now
what decision lmao ending apartheid?
I, for one, welcome Lord Doom as my new supreme ruler
@@nocturnaloctopusI think he means Elon Musk.
This is the classic problem of the benevolent monarch. The monarch may be benevolent now, but we can’t say the same for the successor.
I’ve been with ya since the beginning Rob you are a true treasure to comicdom
After people regained free will and grasped what Doom did.. I’d imagine that “Doom Was Right” memes would be all over the internet and t-shirts would be selling like hot cakes.
Where’s that guy who has 300 comments about Godzilla vs marvel
@ezaf5989 he busy helping me tag team your older sister and your moms. But check it out now that you here, pick us up a case of Pedialyte the strawberry kind. From what it's looking it's fena be a day or 2
. So if your pops or your brother-in-law ask if you seen or heard from your moms n sis 🤫🤐 their in good 👐s take notes 🤞had both of them squirting with my fingers
He's late i think lol
Eaten by gamera probably lmao ironically 🤣 begging for godzilla only for gamera to show up, see your not a kid and eat you lmao
You have summon him n cursed us all
I was a fan of Godzilla way before I started reading comic books. Superhero stories are great and all but we got to get rid of the op mfers . Thor Superman all these unbeatable people got the f****** go.e hero has no weaknesses unrelatable
Hey Rob - the way I see it, even Doom feels his victory is hollow and he is unsatisfied. He doesn't feel the way he expected. He knows the world is changed but in an artifical manner. The real victory would be to truly convince the world to do what he suggests and have them choose to do it. Hawkeye at the end reflects this, because humanity has the power to go either way, but due to the nature of free will, they won't know until time rolls on.
Doom reminds me of myself when I use cheat codes on a video game. I'm loving it for about ten minutes, then I feel like I've cheated myself of the challenge and satisfaction of overcoming the difficulty.
It would have been nice to see Doom's personal reflections on these events and how he might influence or manipulate those same positive changes to the world without using any secret schemes, just Doom as the respected leader of Latveria sharing wisdom and foresight, and maybe resources to make it happen.
NAS: 'WHO'S WORLD IS THIS .. THE WORLD IS YOURS .. THE WORLD IS YOURS' ..
DR DOOM: 'IT'S MINE .. IT'S MINE .. IT'S MINE' ..
Cheesy but I am totally with you!
RIP MF DOOM
Doom is actually a deserving, intellectual and hard working guy.
He doesn't have any super powers but he competes against the entire Avengers by himself.
Well, he’s a sorcerer so that kinda counts as a superpower.
@parsman9914 A learned superpower like science.
Doom has, inherently, some of the most potent magic on the planet that his mom made a deal with Mephisto to give Doom.
Those are superpowers.
Go read some comics, please.
@CrashBanooca-d7n Thank you. I read manga too, maybe I should give you a quiz on YuYu Hakusho.
@chrisleaf idc about what Manga you read. You got your little 'fact' wrong. Delete your comment and take the L
Theres an episode of earths mightiest heroes called emperor stark thats an absolute adaptation of this story. I had never read this so i didnt realise until now. That show is so good. I wonder how many other adaptations there are. It respects the hell out of the souce material. I really wish we could brimg that show back. I think its the best marvel animated project by a mile. I know that people might think thats a hot take but its how i feel.
By all accounts, history and modern business has shown that dictatorships are a very effective form of management. But as the volume of things needing oversight increases the effectiveness is diminished based upon the experience and intelligence of that dictator. This is why we see small businesses often function better than corporations and why the world had fewer wars and a better quality of life when you had countries divided into smaller kingdoms with a government overseeing a population.
Even in those situations the limited scope of authority meant a corrupt leader would drive away their subjects due to it being easy for a citizen to uproot and move to another kingdom thereby creating an incentive for leaders to be servants of their people rather than exploiters of them.
This was a kinder, gentler Secret Empire- including the question that you ask here. I’ll used the logic that you espoused in your Secret Empire posts here - if people are forced to do the right thing instead of doing it using their own free will, at some point, they will rebel and all of that imposed order will devolve into disorder. In the end, humanity wouldn’t have learnt anything. If you think about it, Marvel has been consistent in saying that you can't Super hero or Super villain society to a better state. We cannot rely on one man, one ideology, one country to make the world a better place. We have to do it, individually, then as a group then as a world.
So long as the purple man remained alive, everyones will would be bent to doom without question. After purpleman dies, thats no longer true.
They wouldn't rebel unless doom ordered it to be. Thats why doom eventually got so bored he just let it all fall apart. Because they wouldn't do anything out of doom's order of "obtaining peace and prosperity for all"
The imposed order wasn't because doom took over on his own merits. He took over using the mind controlling powers of purpleman. Outside of those few loose ends he took care of, everyone was under his control and were absolutely obedient.
Doom saved us, the Avengers doomed us.
This and Doom 2099 proves that when Doom has absolute dominion? The world is a much better place.
No, they prove that Doom is an egomaniac psychopath who is so out of touch that he thinks mindless puppets under his control as the best possible world. Typical lazy villain takeover plan. Mind control everyone, Infinite Tsukuyomi, Etc.
Doom sucks.
@@Nobodyshoes It's okay to be wrong and I am proud of you to state so emphatically something so wrong to prove that point.
Doom 2099 was an excellent comic. Yes in it Doom was slightly out of touch with the people yet he changed and saw what the world needed was someone to "guide" it. One Nation Under Doom was a great storyline.
@@DonnieHanby"Doom Sucks" is certainly a hot take from the fella, but they aren't "wrong". A world of mind controlled slaves is just terrible. You can polish that turd if you wish, but its still a turd. It is also very lazy. Not in writing, but in Dooms solution. He didn't "make peace and prosperity", he moved puppets on a stage. The problems are all still there, just buried under a blanket of lies and slavery.
The arrogance of how you responded though, feels as if despite all the 4 dollar words, you just don't know wtf your talking about, or are being purposely disingenuous. It's common these days, when emotion is the default setting for many people's thoughts and opinions.
Edit: auto spell correct,, fill or whatever, replaced "blanket" with mofo "blankey". Like the damned robot was 4 years old 🤣🤣🍻
@@redsledgeblu5234 Tell me you did not read my initial post without telling me you did not read my initial post.
You and the person who said Doom sucks are both guilty of it. I stated that both Emperor Doom AND Doom 2099 proved that he can fix the world's problems.
If you had read Doom 2099, then you would know that no mind control was done in it.
So yes, I made a mocking reply to him since he chose to only read what he wanted to.
So, with that being said, then I appreciate your projection about not knowing what I am talking about since that seems to be something you are more than likely guilty of. Or else just being deliberately obtuse.
You're changing lives with your content. Keep that authentic spirit.
He stopped sprinting like 3 years ago. Now it’s a light speed walk of content
@@joestayslit7701when you've been covering comics as long as he has what do you expect
23:14 Rob is one of the few people that can get me laughing so hard I turn red in the face from laughing so hard XD
Honestly, im siding with Dr Doom on this one.
Stopping Doom is cool and all, but whats the *Better* solution to what Doom did? Not finding a BETTER solution and allowing things to go back to "normal" was the problem. Dr Doom and Hawkeye had a great point
I loved the episode in Avengers EMH that takes almost direct inspiration from this story, "Emperor Stark". Trade Wonder Man for Vision and Doom for Stark and it is essentially the same story. Well Purple Man wasn't captured either, but still very similar story.
Ultron already returned in the current West Coast Avengers run
To be fair, Doom is European and any European dish is a open door to the blant taste of American restaurants
In the Doomwar event versus Black Panther, Dr. Doom reveals he has looked at many different alternate timelines of Earth and in all cases Earth ends up being destroyed except in those instances in which he has conquered the planet. Dr. Doom feels like his rule is the only thing that saves everyone/everything. Its what fuels his quest for power. Also check out What If #1: What if Doom won the Secret Wars. Its another pinnacle story of how far Doom will go to rule and what ultimately happens in his quest to save everything. That issue alongside Emperor Doom show him at his finest. Doom is one of my all time favorite characters 🍺
Retro phrases for retro comics 😎. Good ish my boi
Rob I Love your content and have been following for the past decade of my life, you keep my youth and passion for comics alive almost single-handedly!
It has been A LONG TIME since I saw the MKlll Iron man suit. That takes me back like samurai Jack bro.
I was thinking the exact same thing it was a nice throwback
@1mezion The late 80's- early 90's did a lot of things to the Avengers but Iron Man always held it down. Much respect brother. I knew from memory that it was MK3 but Google kept telling me it was MK33.
That begs the biggest question, would you rather have free will thus having potential chaos around every corner, or be controlled into be an equality peaceful way of living?
It's either free will or total peace. You can't really get both
@torrancemoore6152 which would you choose tho?
@@chrisgamer9099 tbf, I'd pick freedom. While a tranquil world is certainly better, idk if being robbed of my will could be considered living.
I'm also aware that this is probably the more selfish choice. Hate to say it, but doom had the right idea of unifying the world. It's just his methods are abhorrent
No one does it like Doctor Doom
Ultron is back actually, I forgot which current series it is but in the new moon knight one it reveals that Hank pym is alive
Avengers inc brought him back and now he's part of west Coast avengers
Always come thru while im at work
Perfect timing for this videos release! I love rob’s energy!
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Season 2 Episode 19 ("Emperor Stark") was somewhat of an adaptation of this story
All caps when you spell the man's name
NAMOR
Like madvillain 😎
I more wondering about the lack of a period after "Doctor"; is this about Dr. Doom or Dr Pepper...?
One of my fav Doom and Avengers stories
On the animated show Avengers EMH this plot is used for an episode, but it's Vision shut down for 30 days for self repairs but when he comes back online everyone is being controlled by the Purple Man!
Avengers EMH is still the best Avengers cartoon .
This is what I was looking for. Thank you!
@@Zoclord101 oh right on. no prob.
@@Urwrngshtup5791 it really is right!
Namor just casually rockin a speedo no matter what is peak confidence
Dr. Doom becomes the Emperor of Man.
Doom : "my greatest weakness is that I surround myself with fools"
Me : "thats not your greatest wekness"
Doom : "Then what is it"?
Me : "You're an asshole".
2:44 NO WAY PURPLE GUY IN MARVEL 🤯🤯🤯
You could say.... he's the original!
Wasn’t that the villain and Jessica Jones the TV show?
Avengers assemble. Lol. No domestic violence here. But she was spilling the beans. Lol
U just gonna gloss over the fact that Iron man said @23:15 "what's done is done Clint" after Domestic Abuse is Craaaaazy 😂
Major pleasure gaming with you tonight. You’re always welcomed in a game I’m in.
It all loops here, shoutout & humble gratitude, Rob for being a teacher and messenger likewise. Many a great things your way gawd, peace.
All The Avengers saved, was free will. Which is what makes a human human... So, yeah. They also saved humanity.
This story would have been great to see adapted on the big screen with Henry Cavil as Wonder Man
Don't know if I'd want cavill as wonder man but it would be cool to see in screen
I feel like Avenger Doomsday should have several teams in action, each team has at least 2 loved characters to unite the fandom:
The Thunderbolts (Yelena, US Agent, Bucky, Ghost, Taskmaster, Sentry, Red Guardian)
Fantastic Four (Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing)
West Coast Avengers (Hawkeye, Vision, Shang Shi, War Machine, Wonderman, Antman, Captain Marvel)
Mighty Avengers (Captain America, Spiderman, Thor, Hulk, Black Panther, Wong, Falcon)
Fantastic Four (Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing)
X-Men (Cyclops, Storm, Jean Gray, Beast, Iceman, Colossus, Photon, Binary)
Dr. Strange, Clea, and America Chavez on their own adventure thru the multiverse
Then after Doomsday they can make the movies take place in different parts of Battleworld.
Spiderman 4 can take place in a massive Manhattan composed of many different versions of NY
The Blade movie can take place in an area of Battleworld that is filled with darkness and monsters.
In Dr. Strange 3 we see Dr Strange trying to cope with his failure to save the multiverse.
Finally in Secret Wars it can be about Tom Holland Spiderman, Dr Strange, and Mr. Fantastic (Who's family has actually been taken by Dr. Doom to be his own family), recruiting Multiversal heroes to fight the different barons of Battleworld to release the enslaved heroes who have forgotten how they got to Battleworld by Dr Doom.
Team 1: Wolverine, Toby McGuire Spiderman, Thor and Ghost Rider (Nic Cage) have to fight the Maestro (Played by Eric Bana) in the Wastelands.
Team 2: Deadpool, Tom Holland Spiderman (Black Suit), Blade (Mahershala Ali), and Andrew Garfield Spiderman end up in zombie territory (cameo fest of zombified marvel characters)
Team 3: Dr Strange, Mr. Fantastic, Captain Marvel and Prof X (James Macavoy) have to fight King Magneto (Michael Fassbender) in Genosha, we also get to see Evan Peters Quicksilver, and the younger xmen from the 2010's as citizens of Genosha
Yelena Belova sucks in comics.
@ but the mcu fandom like her and Bucky
This should be the story of DOOM in the MCU. I would love to see people reaction to having a dictator take over the world.
17:16 and 17:32 It's not just wonder man who doesn't need to breathe. Colossus doesn't breathe when he's in his armor form. As long as he's in his armor form he does not require oxygen and that can go on indefinitely.
When I was forced to purge my collection this was not supposed to go. Such an amazing piece.
Without the struggle, peace has no worth
I think it's more like it has no worth if the people don't choose it. It's not really people working together/getting along if they're forced to
Doom conquering the world and then letting it all go back because he got bored is very on-brand.
23:02. Hawkeye straight up Hank Pym'd Mockingbird😅😅😅
Listening to this, this just reminds me of the Earths Mightiest Heros cartoon. Probably this is the story they used, especially the scene forcing Cap to watch the screens
Also Rob, I believe ultron has joined the avengers rn in the comics
really!!!?
Is it still pym or are they separated yet?
I love that you do this his from the eighties.such a golden storyline and maybe relevant in the future too in cinematic universe!! Good video
Julian McMahon is still the best Doom portrayal we have seen so far imo. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see the duality of his character and power that he’s been granted in comics over recent years to make him one of the best anti hero’s. RDJ is still iron man to me haha
28:41 they Fucked up big time😂😂😂
I think the question has a bogus premise. That peace and prosperity under Doom would never work out that way. Due to human nature, even dictators eventually fail. Entropy rules all systems.
The core to his plan was that the entire planet was mind controlled. His subjects were only willing cuz they were compelled
The Skrulls put Namor on a hot plate to shut him down when the Illuminati thought they could come talk 🗑️.
If they are forced to become better by a single ruler. When that ruler falls, for whatever reason, no telling if humanity won’t go back to their old tricks.
We have to get there on our own.
And remember, Doom will do that but will flay the skin of the first person that disagrees with him
Well said. Latveria is pretty well off but incredibly harsh to those who step the slightest bit out of line
Yea Until the unbeatable squirrel girl come around lol!
Sir rob thank you!!*!* You're the original bad ass of comics on Utube. No one does it better brother.
Doom is the Omnissiah
That was a good story, I did feel bad for the Purple Man having to be held captive, I wonder if they could have harnessed his powers without ruining his existence.
I don’t he’s a villian 🦹
@@LNT379 me either
I would LOVE to see a story. where the Avengers and FF finally came to the conclusion that "Look, Doom has spent his entire life figuring out how to save the world from itself, maybe we should let him try", and, as they say, going to Doom first.
"I slugged 'er."
"DUDE! Do you not remember that team meeting about Ant-Man and Wasp last month?!?"
Well deserved tbh. Doom does as Doom pleases, and what Doom does is best.
5:45 we should all remember that ions are actually charges of particles which is a form of electricity.
It would be interesting if Marvel ever looked at how that all worked with all of the various people from Thor, magneto, storm, and other characters who can manipulate lightning, electricity on various levels . Wonderman would be interesting if the writers showed his powers in that fashion
12:01 that moment would never happen. Those blasted are all trying shoots are so devastating that it could actually kill superhuman beings. This must be what if story.
Would electro and Thor be able to control wonder man then?
1:26 that image to me looks hilarious
This story parallels to modern day geopolitical/economic strife is wild. And there’s clear thru lines that can be drawn to modern day leaders.
Love these chronological tellings I can listen to without buying the copies. Thanks!
Damn never been THIS early for any video lol
They save free will and avoided world wide slavery. There's no question, only Doom.
Do more of these classics
Of course I did.
Thats crazy. The new Dr Doom Series is on its way. I just read Storm issue #3 and at the end of the issue World Emperor Doom request a audience with Storm.
Interesting
To answer the question, Doom did both the most good and the most evil. Very on brand.
It would never work without a purple man. People would hate Doom for his generosity
Rob. You are insane. You are the villain. You are the bad guy. Rob, you are the best.
This situation is an interesting paradox, but hopefully it will be settled peacefully without resorting to mind control. And while I may hope for better times in a future generation, there isn't much I can do about it aside from doing my best to be the best version of myself now. I wish I could give a better response, I really do. But, despite his villainous means of getting control, I do give kudos to Doom for following through on his beneficent claims. That part of his plan was genuinely noble.
In 40k the Emperor of Mankind uses the argument of "the necessity of tyranny " to justify his rule as well.
I would say it would shortly after he released the Madvillainy album with Madlibs. That was the height of his power.
I can't wait for West Coast Avengers 2024 to finish and watch the video of you covering it cause I've read issue 1 and I'm itching for more
I remember this episode of Avengers EMH!
Thanks Rob!
bro had Namor subdue Ultron and didn't even use the robot who can hold his own against the strongest of Avengers...
Vision dancing to dancing queen is now something I need to see happen.
He danced a little in Wandavision I think right? Pretty sure, but it was a more romantic and slow dance if I remember correctly. I think it was when they were in black and white still.
Scott Adams has said the best form of government would be something like a Beneficial Dictator. One person with absolute authority who rules with only the wellbeing of the people in mind. Unfortunately, we know absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Great reference with They Live! "I came here to kick butt and chew bubblegum. "
Freedom and Peace can NEVER coexist. You either get one OR the other. And we humans........ yeah.
God I love tigra
I was going to have a few drinks while watching this video but sadly… there’s only One Beer left
Ultron IS back in West Coast Avengers which came out a few weeks ago. Would recommend rob. 👀
Recently a version of Ultron has returned, ironically as a member of the west coast avengers
This is the Machiavellian concept in comic book form. Wow
I guess I know where Kingpin got his idea from then.
This is literally what almost happened in Devil's Reign.
I imagine there’s only three realms, where DR.DOOM wins. Such as in one realm where all the villains rule almost all of the world.
The second realm, where a variant of (Victor Von Doom) is a hero, and most of the known heroes, their variants are villains in it.
The third realm, is where a variant of Victor, becomes Emperor Doom, and his rein as a ruler lasts for six years, then later he is eliminated by Anti-Heroes.
I swear they have to make Doom talk in 3rd person when he brags in the MCU.
Dr. Doom. Only entity to convince galactus to give up his powet and life to him for the greater good. Dr. Doom can talk his way to winning.
This jumps around too much!
When theyve done this storyline in animated form it was vision that wakes up and things start from there