Bear spray can be very effective under the right conditions. The bear needs to be far enough away (30 feet) so that you can lay down a spray barrier between you and bear. That doesn't work if the wind is blowing from the direction of bear, that is, from bear to you, because the spray will quickly dissipate and it will blow away from bear to you. Because the bear attacked the tent after dark, as they were reading, the conditions to deploy spray weren't ideal. Bear would have been close, and the wind direction may not have been appropriate. Plus, this was a bear in poor condition, so pretty motivated to find calories.
Jason great idea for the parks to give out passes to cars and all that come and go from the campgrounds. Instead of paying money as they come in every time. Sad about the two people killed by a bear. Very sad situation. Sad about the missing hiker. But glad they found some fossils. Thank you Jason for all this news and information. Say hi to Abby for me.
The grizzly attack ... you left out that they had their pet dog with them. In the tent with them. Canada doesn't want to talk about this wrong-headed policy. Domestic pets do not belong in the wilderness. They hung their food, but kept the dog in the tent. Brilliant.
My wife has the diabillity pass and overall it's a blessing to have. We only ran into issues when our toad was in the shop and we used a rental driven by my wife. At the Grand Canyon they understood that sometimes you drive an RV and car separately and counted it as one. At Willow Beach in Arizona the lady at the booth gave me a stink and chewed my wife out. She still let us in, but pretty much accused us of fraud among other things. I stayed calm and friendly and so did my wife, but you can imagine what I really wanted to tell her. Something we encounter here in Florida is that State Parks are a little inconsistent when it comes to using that as proof of disabillity. Some employees are knowledgeable and except the pass others still require you to show them your letter from Social Security. The same letter you need to get the pass in the first place.
Something is wrong here , I got a senior pass this year and went to Yellowstone and others around Yellowstone, grand Teton, little big horn, etc . When you show your pass you must show photo ID to. So if your wife showed the pass & her photo ID they know it’s her? Or am I missing something.
@@thestooges333 I go to Sandy Hook NRA 8 miles from my house at least 3 times per week. The first couple of weeks, same thing. Show pass & ID (because pass abuse) with no problems. After that, they just wave me thru the gate.
@@thestooges333 What you missed is the part were I wrote that we were driving two different vehicles. Me in the RV and my wife following in a rental car. Technically you have to be in the same vehicle.
At 65 I I got my Senior Lifetime pass and sometimes when I’ve been going in a park I’ve been asked for my ID or gently remind me to need to have my ID ready but I’m not always asked for it.
Or any capable “bear round”. Unfortunately the Canadian government doesn’t agree with you and many people here in the US don’t either. A firearm is a must.
I have been to many national parks. The truth is they do a quick glance at the back of the pass to see if there is a signature there, but the truth is that they do not confirm the signature belongs to person presenting the pass. This has been my experience. It would be interesting to hear if someone has ever actually been challenged.
Wow, tough luck with that bear attack. We encountered a bear up close in Big Bend N.P. a couple of years ago. Luckily it was not aggressive. Some stones thrown in his general direction, NOT AT HIM, enticed him to vacate the trail. Actually, in Big Bend N.P., I am more afraid of the mountain lions than of the bears. If the mountain lions want you, they will get you. You will only learn of their proximity when their fangs are sunk into your throat. I hope that trail runner gets back home safely. It would be sad, indeed, to perish in the beautiful natural surroundings of a National Park.
@garretlewis4103 Well, that part is understandable. Nobody wants to follow the path of the US where 21,000 people are killed each year from homicide...
Unfortunately Baniff and probably most National Parks take away your ability to protect yourself. Bear spray is a good deterrent but there is a reason the rescue party had firearms.
Again, bear spray has been PROVEN 92% effective at stopping an aggressive bear attack. This is MORE EFFECTIVE than any other defense, including firearms. There have been multiple studies on this. It is effective in wind (due to the velocity of the spray exiting the can), and in cold weather down to temperatures likely to occur while bears are out of the den.
I love how in this instance, our federal government considers a 16 year old an adult for the pass. The feds are such a joke. Thanks for the video, Jason.
Giving out vehicle passes would be impossible. The NPS can't even keep the basic annual cards in stock for sale, so you have to pay for daily entry until they distribute more cards. More profit for them! But they claim they just can't manage inventory. Add vehicle passes? They'll just use the same "we're out of them" excuse, and refuse to credit you, or waive charges.
Couple items of note on the Bear attack: They had a dog w/ them. In nearly all Florida alligator attacks, there is a dog involved. It was likely the same w/ the bear attack. The bear wants the critter and they are willing to go through you to get it. Next, one of the victims was a minor, not an adult. And finally, you need more than bear spray in the wild. Our forefathers that discovered these lands proved that centuries ago. They went in armed. In spite of common myths, Canada will allow you to carry a firearm. You just have to have the right permit and it can't be military grade ammo.
I love how it’s always an “experienced “………whatever, that is lost. Yet they do something stupid like hiking alone. And no emergency call beacon when they do. I need a break from this BS!
@@DuffyGabiyou must not visit many or do any hikes. I see and hear foreign people all the time in the National Parks. Plus almost all of them are swamped most of the day.
@@DuffyGabi Glad you're not oppressed ... our government been sending $4 billions a year to Israel and who knows how much to Ukraine now from our taxes but charges us for parks maintenance fees ...
Our genius federal government hard at work. However, the general public has to pay the cost of a few bad people trying to cheat the system. Sorry to hear about the campers.
As for the Grizzly attack, the only true protection is a large caliber firearm. Canada hates this and prefers bear spray, otherwise known as grizzly victim seasoning.
Study after study has proven bear spray to be effective 92% of the time at stopping an aggressive bear attack. This is more effective than firearms or any other defense. This isn't open to question. It has been proven. It has also been demonstrated that many people have been killed or seriously injured by bears AFTER they shot the bear. Many (especially hunters) prefer to carry firearms because of ignorance, plain and simple, and because, frankly, carrying a gun makes people feel invincible. But facts are facts. Look it up. Talk with bear experts. I live in grizzly country. I have been hiking, camping and backpacking safely in grizzly country for over 50 years.
@@RVMiles...ya but what if your pepper spray in ineffective? It's better to have a firearm and not need it, that need a firearm and not have it. BTW, reports indicate the two deceased hikers had a dog with them. Dogs are notorious for attracting grizzly/brown bears to campsites.
So the people with bear spray died from the attack, but the people with the gun survive. I think bear spray gives a false sense of safety, and hopefully the wind is blowing towards the bear, and not towards the person. Anybody who advocates the use of bear spray over the protection of the firearm is very much misleading the public.
It's just not true. The guns killed the bear because it was essentially a hunting party with rifles. A hand gun - even a high caliber - isn't anywhere near as effective in a bear attack as bear spray.
To me to go to a NP anymore is very unsafe . You can’t protect yourself , you can’t take pictures and post them , you can’t , you can’t you can’t . I do not blame the NP . It is the small group that always makes it bad for everyone else.
@@DuffyGabi idk, This still doesn’t sound right, unless you’re a professional photographer. From the NPS website: When is a permit needed for still photography? In most cases, still photography does not require a permit. A permit is required for still photography only when: the activity takes place in an area closed to the public; or the activity uses a model, set, or prop; or the National Park Service would incur additional administrative costs to monitor the activity. A “model” means a person or object that serves as the subject for still photography for the purpose of promoting the sale or use of a product or service. www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/commercial-film-and-photo-permits.htm
More: Effective October 28, 2022, the National Park Service rescinded interim guidance that was in place during litigation regarding commercial filming and has returned to longstanding laws and regulations governing commercial filming in parks. Questions and answers about filming and photography are provided below.
@@Stacy-w5f yes, the above applies to both stills & videos. So Scott’s ‘undercover’ ‘stealth’ filming as a former CIA operative is laughable. Let alone he should know better as a former govt employee, breaking the law he says he broke.
@@Stacy-w5f But posting on TH-cam or TikTok constitutes 'commercial filming' (and even if you're not making money, the web site host is). The NPS is insane.
12 Gauge loaded with slugs is the ONLY deterrent. Bear spray is USELESS against an enraged bear. I carry a big stick on every hike in bear country, in addition to spray. If the spray don't stop em, they get the stick. A slug will stop one of these maggots in their tracks. Nothing like the crack of a slug shattering a bears face. It's just good, clean fun.
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Sad to hear of the tragic events. Rich content overall. Glad we each have our senior passes. Thanks for sharing.
Such an unfortuntae tragedy, condolences to their familes. It's unsettling to hear the bear spray didn't stop the attack!
That is why you need a secondary method of protection which unfortunately is very difficult to obtain in Canada.
Bear spray can be very effective under the right conditions. The bear needs to be far enough away (30 feet) so that you can lay down a spray barrier between you and bear. That doesn't work if the wind is blowing from the direction of bear, that is, from bear to you, because the spray will quickly dissipate and it will blow away from bear to you. Because the bear attacked the tent after dark, as they were reading, the conditions to deploy spray weren't ideal. Bear would have been close, and the wind direction may not have been appropriate. Plus, this was a bear in poor condition, so pretty motivated to find calories.
Bear spray won’t work from “inside” a tent. That’s why it didn’t stop the attack. They were inside the tent, fighting the bear who was outside. Sad
10mm would have done the job, unfortunately that's not an option in all areas.
Crazy amount of info! Fantastic video! All over the place but where we wanted to be! love ya!
Very informative, well-prepared as always, and interesting…..thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Jason great idea for the parks to give out passes to cars and all that come and go from the campgrounds. Instead of paying money as they come in every time. Sad about the two people killed by a bear. Very sad situation. Sad about the missing hiker. But glad they found some fossils. Thank you Jason for all this news and information. Say hi to Abby for me.
You had me at Grizzly attack!
Still the best, Jason. My spouse worked at the Prehistoric in Price for over three years. We still have a house out there.
Good information
Interesting. My annual pass was purchased in December 2022, and it only has the one signature line. So this policy must have started last year.
That is why people with a legal weapon & no violence charges should be aloud to carry!
Agreed! Unfortunately Canada doesn’t see it that way and many people here are trying their best to do the same here.
The grizzly attack ... you left out that they had their pet dog with them. In the tent with them. Canada doesn't want to talk about this wrong-headed policy. Domestic pets do not belong in the wilderness. They hung their food, but kept the dog in the tent. Brilliant.
Are you implying that the dog is what the grizzly was after?
You're kind of stupid, aren't you?
There were also two empty cans of bear spray
I think the bear was either after the dog or the dog incited the bear to attack\
Have you statistics on dogs and associated fatal human bear attacks?
My wife has the diabillity pass and overall it's a blessing to have. We only ran into issues when our toad was in the shop and we used a rental driven by my wife. At the Grand Canyon they understood that sometimes you drive an RV and car separately and counted it as one. At Willow Beach in Arizona the lady at the booth gave me a stink and chewed my wife out. She still let us in, but pretty much accused us of fraud among other things. I stayed calm and friendly and so did my wife, but you can imagine what I really wanted to tell her. Something we encounter here in Florida is that State Parks are a little inconsistent when it comes to using that as proof of disabillity. Some employees are knowledgeable and except the pass others still require you to show them your letter from Social Security. The same letter you need to get the pass in the first place.
It depends who you get, how they interpret the rules plus common sense know matter what agency or even companies it is.
Something is wrong here , I got a senior pass this year and went to Yellowstone and others around Yellowstone, grand Teton, little big horn, etc .
When you show your pass you must show photo ID to.
So if your wife showed the pass & her photo ID they know it’s her? Or am I missing something.
@@thestooges333 I go to Sandy Hook NRA 8 miles from my house at least 3 times per week. The first couple of weeks, same thing. Show pass & ID (because pass abuse) with no problems. After that, they just wave me thru the gate.
@@thestooges333 What you missed is the part were I wrote that we were driving two different vehicles. Me in the RV and my wife following in a rental car. Technically you have to be in the same vehicle.
I bought my senior pass this year, about four months ago and it only has one signature line so they must’ve started it early
Great information as always.
Thanks again!
At 65 I
I got my Senior Lifetime pass and sometimes when I’ve been going in a park I’ve been asked for my ID or gently remind me to need to have my ID ready but I’m not always asked for it.
10mm pistol is a must have in bear country!
Or any capable “bear round”. Unfortunately the Canadian government doesn’t agree with you and many people here in the US don’t either. A firearm is a must.
Yep, G20 is what I carry with underwood hard cast.
I have been to many national parks. The truth is they do a quick glance at the back of the pass to see if there is a signature there, but the truth is that they do not confirm the signature belongs to person presenting the pass. This has been my experience. It would be interesting to hear if someone has ever actually been challenged.
Bei uns wurde die Unterschrift auf dem Pass mit der Unterschrift im Ausweis verglichen, jedes Mal
GCNP even asked for a photo ID along with my park pass
You're good enough to have your own 30 min cable show!
So what is the alternative of parkwolf app for an android phone?
Wow, tough luck with that bear attack.
We encountered a bear up close in Big Bend N.P. a couple of years ago.
Luckily it was not aggressive. Some stones thrown in his general direction, NOT AT HIM, enticed him to vacate the trail.
Actually, in Big Bend N.P., I am more afraid of the mountain lions than of the bears. If the mountain lions want you, they will get you.
You will only learn of their proximity when their fangs are sunk into your throat.
I hope that trail runner gets back home safely. It would be sad, indeed, to perish in the beautiful natural surroundings of a National Park.
A mountain lion doesn't stand much of a chance of KILLING a full grown, healthy adult male. You might get chewed up a bit. Such is life.
Unfortunately, Canada doesn't allow pepper spray with more than 1% capsaicin.
They do allow it in bear spray as long as it’s clearly packaged as bear spray.
@RVMiles Bear spray with more than 1%? I have only seen 0.85 and 1%
And they don’t like the back up to pepper spray much either. Firearms.
@garretlewis4103 Well, that part is understandable. Nobody wants to follow the path of the US where 21,000 people are killed each year from homicide...
Or they could check the ID of the person using the pass. This is not hard.
Unfortunately Baniff and probably most National Parks take away your ability to protect yourself. Bear spray is a good deterrent but there is a reason the rescue party had firearms.
Again, bear spray has been PROVEN 92% effective at stopping an aggressive bear attack. This is MORE EFFECTIVE than any other defense, including firearms. There have been multiple studies on this. It is effective in wind (due to the velocity of the spray exiting the can), and in cold weather down to temperatures likely to occur while bears are out of the den.
Agreed! We should have all of our “safety gear”. Unfortunately Canada makes it difficult.
.50 cal pistol in grizzly country like they do in Alaska would be peace of mind.
@@zackdemundo hard cast in 10mm is what I carry. It's considered one of the most effective handgun options.
06:00 It was probably just Jimmy Hoffa.
How does sharing your pass get fixed by only one signature? They must be neither of couple? Makes zero sense to me.
All you have to do is ask for a pass for your car when coming in. They are happy to give you a zero receipt for your vehicle.
Looks like drone video @ 6:20. Are drones allowed in Lake Powell NRA?
It’s old stock video from before the drone rules.
The park pass signature issue - bring hand sanitizer and a permanent marker. Adjust signature as needed.
Sorry to say. You stil have to have internet connection to look things up
I prefer my bear 🐻 spray in the Glock 10mm dispenser
I love how in this instance, our federal government considers a 16 year old an adult for the pass. The feds are such a joke. Thanks for the video, Jason.
And not an adult for other things.
Can not find parkwolf app any where
It's only on apple.
Kanada doesn’t allow real bear defense
Too bad the victims didn’t have the same luxury of being able to shoot the bear as the first responders did…. Thanks Canada. 🇨🇦
Yeap, sad and unfortunate.
The parks require you show ID when using the dual signature annual passes. Going to a single signature is just a money grab...
Giving out vehicle passes would be impossible. The NPS can't even keep the basic annual cards in stock for sale, so you have to pay for daily entry until they distribute more cards. More profit for them! But they claim they just can't manage inventory.
Add vehicle passes? They'll just use the same "we're out of them" excuse, and refuse to credit you, or waive charges.
Vehicle passes will cause some people to just ferry carload after carload of other people in for free. Bad idea.
Just the camping receipt for the window like half the state parks in the nation do. The cost is a piece of tape.
Good anti-bear “policy/procedures” first. Bear spray second. Firearms third and last resort. Need to make sure you have all of your “safety gear”.
Couple items of note on the Bear attack: They had a dog w/ them. In nearly all Florida alligator attacks, there is a dog involved. It was likely the same w/ the bear attack. The bear wants the critter and they are willing to go through you to get it. Next, one of the victims was a minor, not an adult. And finally, you need more than bear spray in the wild. Our forefathers that discovered these lands proved that centuries ago. They went in armed. In spite of common myths, Canada will allow you to carry a firearm. You just have to have the right permit and it can't be military grade ammo.
Wrong , it was 2 adults that were killed . Husband & wife, along with their dog. You cannot carry firearms in our National parks.
Taxes money at work.
I love how it’s always an “experienced “………whatever, that is lost. Yet they do something stupid like hiking alone. And no emergency call beacon when they do. I need a break from this BS!
So let me get this straight. Our taxes bought the park. Now we have to pay to go there?
You have to pay for upkeep. Think of it as maintenance on your car.
@@DuffyGabiyou must not visit many or do any hikes. I see and hear foreign people all the time in the National Parks. Plus almost all of them are swamped most of the day.
@@DuffyGabi Glad you're not oppressed ... our government been sending $4 billions a year to Israel and who knows how much to Ukraine now from our taxes but charges us for parks maintenance fees ...
The park service only gets 0.2 of the federal government money
Imagine if our parks got the kinda money Ukraine has gotten in the last year or so!
@@OneNationUnderGod. Yep ... how about $4 billions yearly gift for Israel ...
@@STP-bc5cy I want all world aid cut, Biden just handed Hamas $100 million for "relief aid" aka more missiles
Did Russia attack our parks? Did Hamas attack our parks? False equivalence.
Our genius federal government hard at work. However, the general public has to pay the cost of a few bad people trying to cheat the system.
Sorry to hear about the campers.
Yet they won't let people carry self protection in the form of firearms.
As for the Grizzly attack, the only true protection is a large caliber firearm. Canada hates this and prefers bear spray, otherwise known as grizzly victim seasoning.
It's my understanding that bear spray has been proven time and time again as FAR more effective than a gun.
Most people in Alaska use firearms over bear spray for a reason.
Study after study has proven bear spray to be effective 92% of the time at stopping an aggressive bear attack. This is more effective than firearms or any other defense. This isn't open to question. It has been proven. It has also been demonstrated that many people have been killed or seriously injured by bears AFTER they shot the bear. Many (especially hunters) prefer to carry firearms because of ignorance, plain and simple, and because, frankly, carrying a gun makes people feel invincible. But facts are facts. Look it up. Talk with bear experts. I live in grizzly country. I have been hiking, camping and backpacking safely in grizzly country for over 50 years.
@@RVMiles...ya but what if your pepper spray in ineffective? It's better to have a firearm and not need it, that need a firearm and not have it. BTW, reports indicate the two deceased hikers had a dog with them. Dogs are notorious for attracting grizzly/brown bears to campsites.
@@RVMiles Well, you're wrong. Time to update your understanding.
They didn't change it due to abuse, they just figured out how to get more money.
So the people with bear spray died from the attack, but the people with the gun survive. I think bear spray gives a false sense of safety, and hopefully the wind is blowing towards the bear, and not towards the person. Anybody who advocates the use of bear spray over the protection of the firearm is very much misleading the public.
It's just not true. The guns killed the bear because it was essentially a hunting party with rifles. A hand gun - even a high caliber - isn't anywhere near as effective in a bear attack as bear spray.
But those people still died while using bear spray
To me to go to a NP anymore is very unsafe . You can’t protect yourself , you can’t take pictures and post them , you can’t , you can’t you can’t . I do not blame the NP . It is the small group that always makes it bad for everyone else.
What’s this about pictures & posting? This doesn’t sound right.
@@DuffyGabi idk, This still doesn’t sound right, unless you’re a professional photographer. From the NPS website:
When is a permit needed for still photography?
In most cases, still photography does not require a permit. A permit is required for still photography only when:
the activity takes place in an area closed to the public; or
the activity uses a model, set, or prop; or
the National Park Service would incur additional administrative costs to monitor the activity.
A “model” means a person or object that serves as the subject for still photography for the purpose of promoting the sale or use of a product or service.
www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/commercial-film-and-photo-permits.htm
More:
Effective October 28, 2022, the National Park Service rescinded interim guidance that was in place during litigation regarding commercial filming and has returned to longstanding laws and regulations governing commercial filming in parks. Questions and answers about filming and photography are provided below.
@@Stacy-w5f yes, the above applies to both stills & videos. So Scott’s ‘undercover’ ‘stealth’ filming as a former CIA operative is laughable. Let alone he should know better as a former govt employee, breaking the law he says he broke.
@@Stacy-w5f But posting on TH-cam or TikTok constitutes 'commercial filming' (and even if you're not making money, the web site host is). The NPS is insane.
You think anyone will consider a Creator or still hold to the faith of evolution?
12 Gauge loaded with slugs is the ONLY deterrent. Bear spray is USELESS against an enraged bear. I carry a big stick on every hike in bear country, in addition to spray. If the spray don't stop em, they get the stick. A slug will stop one of these maggots in their tracks.
Nothing like the crack of a slug shattering a bears face. It's just good, clean fun.
Good clean fun? Hunting is not legal in parks.
@@quixote5844 If you consider self-defense as hunting, then a BIG LOL to you.