the best advice is try to match up with decent/good players asap! as a solo player you CONSTANTLY get reported by trolls, crybabies, griefers. I would estimate half of all matches as a solo player are like this, it sucks. So group up with good teammates/friends asap, this is NOT a good game to play ranked solo ❤
Solo q only guy, I quit ranked because of it, and how toxic the community is (peaked plat 2 like 2 years ago, since then only play for fun on my Drogoz and Koa)
Honestly paladins just crossed my mind and that's why I'm writing this now and I gotta say I miss something about this game yet i don't know what I know that there are better multiplayer games yet my mind is coming back to this place. Paladins is an underrated gem that has a soul unlike these big games on the market right now and yet it still hits me like prime fortnite or overwatch but those games are no more and paladins just feels like It's stuck in time but In a good way.
Yeah, the game is in a really strange state right now. It is soo good but has still too much lost potential to feel good, mostly because of its extremely buggy code and small money's for development.
Strange enough, the bottom picks best characters are usually damage and flanks, at least at my elo. If I don't pick a tank they won't either anyway. And most of them think playing tank means standing on the point and spamming need healing.
Tip 6: pick a good dps and carry. Unless you are diamond (you dont need this video if you are diamond or above), at those lower tiers sadly you will find lots of casual players that are genuinely bad or dont play the meta, dont counterpick… those games are extremely hard to win as a healer or most tanks and you probably have to pick a meta dps character that can carry the game by itself by killing everyone of the enemy team. So basically just play andro, vatu, evie, maeve, bk, lian, cassie, willo 24/7
Fishnet did a good video explaining exactly positioning. Usually support stays high ground with the dmg to have always vision for evryone and to help each other in case of dive. Generally tanks are for making space and enabling your carry that's usually the dps. So you peal for them as a tank you are always in front and pushing and taking cover to so you don't waste all the heals. Also talent picking is very important, I see a tone of double point tanks or double heal talent supports that's lose of course cuz you can't have 2 of the same thing.
Oh my gosh tip number 2 point about saving champions will be soooo useful, however I’m afraid whoever I trade with does something mean like pick a champion I don’t ask for because there selfish
I wish people in quickplay would be willing to follow the team comp idea of 2 tanks. I play fill and its the worst feeling ever when in lobby 4 people instalock damage champs as if everything will be fine
@@swuffieI play casuals to test builds, when I want to play brain dead games where I don't want to think much, and to have fun. If I wanted to actually take it seriously, I'd play ranked
Can you eventually make a video explaining counters/synergys? That would probably be a lot of work but I think 99 % of your viewers would learn something with the majority learning a lot And the things you already talked about in this video were insanly interesting I'd love to hear more
The video is very good and informative i think all paladins players must watch it but just a little tip to make it better for next you could've shown gameplay of the match where you were playing atlas because even though you are losing that was the match you have been explaining on for half the video it would've made more sense. Otherwise goodjob
yeah thanks man. Alot of new players and they usually dont know the best practices and you end up loosing the game before you even started the match. Especially at lower tiers. its so frustrating when players choose double flank and the rest of the team has to compensate or someone decide to rage quit and leave you with a bot.
And like for example platinum you have to win about 55% on wins you gain 8 on avrg but when you loose mostly bc things you cant control like dc you still loose 13 on avrg match making just gate keep you and the dc just dont get punished that hard bc in gold it gives you more points for wining than loosing
I’d love to have voice chat on, but I’m on console and for some reason voice chat will cause a ton of crashes only on console, I’ve tested this out and I tend to crash way more often when I have voice chat on. This problem has been in the game on console for over a year and idk what to do abt it
Yeah, I crash often if I join a PSN party too. And in-game voice chat is also VERY buggy. Sometimes, I can't deactivate it either or have other bugs with it.
About unspoken rules: Never think that 4/5 pick will take what you want/what's needed. 1) Many of low picks has much less rank than you, so they just don't know what they have to pick. And if you are watching this video not just for fun, you surely will get gold(may be even silver), who doesn't know what's offtank. 2) Many of low ranked players go rank matches just because casuals are too boring and easy. And sometimes are drunk(like me). And we don't want to win, we want to have fun on the role we want. And we will take what we want, no matter what you are expecting. In this case may be rarely somebody has fun playing offtank or aggressive healer. But you will never get point tank in this case. And usually you'll need to take tanks and healer if you want a good teamcomp(bcs nobody will do it for you) Keep that in mind if you REALLY want to win. Understand who are you playing with and is your team going to fill gaps in draft
I'm practicing with a couple new champions to add to my catalog of champions. I would practice flank and damage roles but anytime I get in a casual game to get to learning a damage or flank, my dumb teammates choose primarily damage and flanks while I have to default to either tank or support. Well least I'm learning new champion either way 🤷♂
My problem is that I just don’t enjoy playing ranked. It takes ages to get a match running just for the last pick to quit and start queuing all over again. People are extra toxic in ranked and they also don’t take constructive criticism well (although this is true in casual as well). As I don’t really play ranked due to the above, if I do I end up with people who always throw pick, don’t know that we should have 2 tanks or simply come to ranked when they can literally only play like 3 champions.🤷♂️ and when they get called out they are the one who start trash talking. And don’t even get me started on solo supports going dmg talent😅 all the above are annoying in casual and it’s way worse in ranked. So usually I just stick to casual, at least if I get a noob team mate I can just say, hey it’s casual
Actually now I'm watching this I always thought myself it's like rock-paper-scissors when you look at the enemies you think to yourself what play style would work against your enemies and what items would help you? I just go for the basics or go for something else
The last one is MASSIVE. I lost 32-ish tp the other day after I got in a losing streak (I was playing fairly well personally the last picks kept fucking it up with the classic last pick seris and viktors) because in my mind I was fully convinced that there was no possible way I'd get put in the same match as * those * idiots again and with how I was individually playing I was surely going to win one. I was wrong. The one total game we had a good team comp that day the other team had a duo flying around at super speeds on lian and viktor aimbotting and we could do absolutely nothing. Sometimes you should just get off the game for the night.
Rank is injerious to health not for toxic people or something else. Only for bad matchmaking. Either the enemy is way strong than my team or I get players who gets dc or insta picks like casuals or stops playing when don't get heal all time.
Does the ranked rating system work in lower elo? I always duo with a friend who I love playing with, but realistically I'm 10x better than him according to everyone we've ever played with, and I'm Legitimately a higher rank than him, however I end up mid to bottom and he is always top pick? Makes 0 sense to me
i swear every game i play in brazil i got a brazilian with the mic on with some diavolic quilombo going on in the back, so annoying that not only i have to figure out what they say because "barrier language", they also have obnoxious noise
Paladins ranked is over populater by under lvl 100 players that dont know how to draft and trowing half the maches just by not knowing what counters what or just not picking a tank
@@rossschweinforth3910 he’s always liked those two supports and not liked Ying especially and if it wasn’t a pattern for him than it could’ve just been an opinion but it just sounds like cope
@@Nine_Guinea_Pigshe is stronger than Ying (which is painful to say as a ying main). All Ying does is heal an insane amount. However damba has higher dmg and his stun which makes him better in late game
My advice: meta is for losers, play what you find fun. It's always better to build your champion around your playstyle, not the other way around (I'm a hyper aggressive Drogoz and Makoa main f.e.)
As a console player, crossplay made it almost impossible to pass gold rank. Before crossplay I even reached diamond IV but now because of crossplay it's impossible because there are some pc players who carry the whole team wether you pick a meta or not. And I wish crossplay becomes optional
@@rayanvivo5311 ow ye then its super unfair its like totally different game on pc. Great example are skye(and other flanks) where pc player can turn around almost instantly
Lol if I get in a lobby with a PC player (currently learning new champions via casuals), they barely do anything but complain and want a pocket and complain more if they die with a pocket. Really that's any platform where they complain but they really can't carry a pop tart
Ranked too many stupid players. Tanks keep rushing to pt. Spam need healing all the time. Flanks playing at pt. 2 tanks needed someone picks dps. Game not going good. Report report report.
Why did you make the first point/s at the first position...😮💨🤦♂️ Literally, everything is more important. I've seen wins with everything in streams as well as in my games. This game has so few people who play well while playing seriously (rn), and the balance is much better than in previous years. We all know that one of the biggest problems is toxicity, and that gets worse every time someone says, "Nah, that champ/comb is unplayable." Deck composition, fitting usage of your abilities, havin many champions/decks to play, not giving up instantly, using ults right, being unpredictable and communicating can carry you much, much further while still being fun. I hate that extreme meta focus in this game more than the bugs it has. Sure, Meta is great, but we literally just learned the meta before it changes imensly again. There are not even enough games in that little time between changes to test just half of all the combs and dont even scratch all the deck combinations. If you really want to win games you thought you can't, PLAY THEM and dont be a toxic ahole. Correct those people ONCE, and if they say no, be fkin quiet and try to make the best out of it. Every second round someone cries and plays like trash because someone's pick is not meta enough. Fun fact: THERE WILL BE ALLWAYS THOSE PEOPLE. Isn't that why we love Paladins? These rounds, nothing worked like it should, but you and your team still made something out of it.
Apologies for the rant. Ultimately, the developers are at fault. The best player, so usually the one with the most champions, picks first, often without any opportunity to see what the others can/will play (despite real communication through voice or chat). In reality, the pick system itself is toxic because, as a "good" player, you're expected to prepare for mistakes your teammates could make, often with little or no information. Last picks have it even worse. They can't choose what they want (as long as it isn't an obviously easy champion) because most often no one trusts a last pick and dont want to save ("there's a reason you're last pick..."). Then, as the official worst on the team, they have to pick a champion they can play that is still available while it still needs to be meta. So, the worst players have the hardest time picking, while the best players have the hardest time compensating for mistakes. How can this not be toxic? All players would need to be the most agreeable and communicative personalities while being incredibly resilient to real trolls. That's simply impossible. We either need a way to show champions to the team before picking so everyone can better prepare, or we need to reverse the pick order so the worst players pick or ban first. P.S. I'm not saying it doesn’t work as it is now, but it will always be somewhat toxic in the pick phase unless something changes.
@@Redmentoos pre-picks would be awesome rather then the one at a time method. Bans could happen first and then a few minutes to team pick and strategize like in war, You huddle together first. Or a 50% ban 50% pick and then again 50% ban 50% pick. It would definitely eliminate the current frustrations of noobs doing noob things
Yeah, that would be a bigger change, but by pre-picks, I meant like in casual wich allows you to just click your champs to communicate which champion you are going to use/can use. Actually, in lower elo, inorder for people who pick last to get there champs the high picks need to save them but then they need to set a lot of trust in them, so most often in single rank they won't(despite Big meta picks..) and if they fill bad because no saved ("worse" players often communicate worse too..) they get flamed because they make mistakes or don't do well. It's a lot of pressure, and it kinda sucks because they're already low rank, and now get flamed for it just because there the last one to decide if its a good comb. I think it might be more fair if they changed the pick order so that it is the best one wich picks last and the "worst" one wo picks first. But baning should still the best one (so last pick), so if the worse ones pick bad, they do it on start, and the good people can try to build strategies with and around there probably bad picks.
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watching this even though I’m way too self conscious to ever play ranked lmao
Watching this without even playing paladins
rankeds are a dark place
Yh for betas @jonathanap5125
I’ve been an unranked warrior for 7 years and that ain’t changing 😂 especially with the current state that the game is in
I think Ranked is just a good way to avoid the dumb team comps in public matches! It's not full proof but you get better games
the best advice is try to match up with decent/good players asap! as a solo player you CONSTANTLY get reported by trolls, crybabies, griefers. I would estimate half of all matches as a solo player are like this, it sucks. So group up with good teammates/friends asap, this is NOT a good game to play ranked solo ❤
Solo q only guy, I quit ranked because of it, and how toxic the community is (peaked plat 2 like 2 years ago, since then only play for fun on my Drogoz and Koa)
The problem is its hard to find some boys to play rank with since the lack of players
Plz report n8dogfy733 for telling the truth
Sarcasm and fun also isn't allowed in lobby chat
Honestly paladins just crossed my mind and that's why I'm writing this now and I gotta say I miss something about this game yet i don't know what I know that there are better multiplayer games yet my mind is coming back to this place. Paladins is an underrated gem that has a soul unlike these big games on the market right now and yet it still hits me like prime fortnite or overwatch but those games are no more and paladins just feels like It's stuck in time but In a good way.
Yeah, the game is in a really strange state right now. It is soo good but has still too much lost potential to feel good, mostly because of its extremely buggy code and small money's for development.
Strange enough, the bottom picks best characters are usually damage and flanks, at least at my elo. If I don't pick a tank they won't either anyway. And most of them think playing tank means standing on the point and spamming need healing.
So true lol I never pick dmg or flank as first pick because I want a good team comp
Tip 6: pick a good dps and carry. Unless you are diamond (you dont need this video if you are diamond or above), at those lower tiers sadly you will find lots of casual players that are genuinely bad or dont play the meta, dont counterpick… those games are extremely hard to win as a healer or most tanks and you probably have to pick a meta dps character that can carry the game by itself by killing everyone of the enemy team. So basically just play andro, vatu, evie, maeve, bk, lian, cassie, willo 24/7
Ive been playing this game since Open Beta 22. This community heavily needs an overdose of videos explaining stuff like this. Please keep doing these.
I went from gold 5 to top 1 gm after subscribing
Do it fellas
the chat pause at 15:23 🤣
You were locked in 😂😂. I hadn't noticed that at all lmao
Fishnet did a good video explaining exactly positioning. Usually support stays high ground with the dmg to have always vision for evryone and to help each other in case of dive. Generally tanks are for making space and enabling your carry that's usually the dps. So you peal for them as a tank you are always in front and pushing and taking cover to so you don't waste all the heals. Also talent picking is very important, I see a tone of double point tanks or double heal talent supports that's lose of course cuz you can't have 2 of the same thing.
Andrew, if you had to get rid of one of these 3 things from paladins, what would it be
1. Talents
2. Card loadouts
3. Item shop
Oh my gosh tip number 2 point about saving champions will be soooo useful, however I’m afraid whoever I trade with does something mean like pick a champion I don’t ask for because there selfish
I wish people in quickplay would be willing to follow the team comp idea of 2 tanks. I play fill and its the worst feeling ever when in lobby 4 people instalock damage champs as if everything will be fine
in normals no one goes double tank so its not even necessary esp if u want 2 have fun
@@swuffieI play casuals to test builds, when I want to play brain dead games where I don't want to think much, and to have fun. If I wanted to actually take it seriously, I'd play ranked
bro no lol
Can you eventually make a video explaining counters/synergys?
That would probably be a lot of work but I think 99 % of your viewers would learn something with the majority learning a lot
And the things you already talked about in this video were insanly interesting I'd love to hear more
currently on break from ranked (for the past 4 years)
The video is very good and informative i think all paladins players must watch it but just a little tip to make it better for next you could've shown gameplay of the match where you were playing atlas because even though you are losing that was the match you have been explaining on for half the video it would've made more sense. Otherwise goodjob
Yo7 should make a video with you showing off all your champions levels and all the skin styles and card builds you have.
yeah thanks man. Alot of new players and they usually dont know the best practices and you end up loosing the game before you even started the match. Especially at lower tiers. its so frustrating when players choose double flank and the rest of the team has to compensate or someone decide to rage quit and leave you with a bot.
And like for example platinum you have to win about 55% on wins you gain 8 on avrg but when you loose mostly bc things you cant control like dc you still loose 13 on avrg match making just gate keep you and the dc just dont get punished that hard bc in gold it gives you more points for wining than loosing
And if you get to diamond gold players dont match that high
thanks this helps me learn more about the game and great video
I’d love to have voice chat on, but I’m on console and for some reason voice chat will cause a ton of crashes only on console, I’ve tested this out and I tend to crash way more often when I have voice chat on. This problem has been in the game on console for over a year and idk what to do abt it
Yeah, I crash often if I join a PSN party too. And in-game voice chat is also VERY buggy. Sometimes, I can't deactivate it either or have other bugs with it.
About unspoken rules:
Never think that 4/5 pick will take what you want/what's needed.
1) Many of low picks has much less rank than you, so they just don't know what they have to pick. And if you are watching this video not just for fun, you surely will get gold(may be even silver), who doesn't know what's offtank.
2) Many of low ranked players go rank matches just because casuals are too boring and easy. And sometimes are drunk(like me). And we don't want to win, we want to have fun on the role we want. And we will take what we want, no matter what you are expecting. In this case may be rarely somebody has fun playing offtank or aggressive healer. But you will never get point tank in this case. And usually you'll need to take tanks and healer if you want a good teamcomp(bcs nobody will do it for you)
Keep that in mind if you REALLY want to win. Understand who are you playing with and is your team going to fill gaps in draft
I'm practicing with a couple new champions to add to my catalog of champions. I would practice flank and damage roles but anytime I get in a casual game to get to learning a damage or flank, my dumb teammates choose primarily damage and flanks while I have to default to either tank or support. Well least I'm learning new champion either way 🤷♂
Great tips!!
My problem is that I just don’t enjoy playing ranked. It takes ages to get a match running just for the last pick to quit and start queuing all over again. People are extra toxic in ranked and they also don’t take constructive criticism well (although this is true in casual as well). As I don’t really play ranked due to the above, if I do I end up with people who always throw pick, don’t know that we should have 2 tanks or simply come to ranked when they can literally only play like 3 champions.🤷♂️ and when they get called out they are the one who start trash talking. And don’t even get me started on solo supports going dmg talent😅 all the above are annoying in casual and it’s way worse in ranked. So usually I just stick to casual, at least if I get a noob team mate I can just say, hey it’s casual
The G.O.A.T of paladins ❤
isoceles and equalatteral are partied, yeah. i got a bunch of games in against the two of them in Arcade. Iso is a damba main iirc.
Question for Lilith players! How does rejuvenate work on Lilith or what would be the best item to use out of that row?
Can you make a video about counter picking for tanks? I feel like thats something that never gets mentioned
Actually now I'm watching this I always thought myself it's like rock-paper-scissors when you look at the enemies you think to yourself what play style would work against your enemies and what items would help you? I just go for the basics or go for something else
The last one is MASSIVE. I lost 32-ish tp the other day after I got in a losing streak (I was playing fairly well personally the last picks kept fucking it up with the classic last pick seris and viktors) because in my mind I was fully convinced that there was no possible way I'd get put in the same match as * those * idiots again and with how I was individually playing I was surely going to win one. I was wrong. The one total game we had a good team comp that day the other team had a duo flying around at super speeds on lian and viktor aimbotting and we could do absolutely nothing. Sometimes you should just get off the game for the night.
The only reward for ranked is more rage. I'll only play it if there's a skin...
Well the Nando skin is there
@@Iamslay09 already got it. And the pip one
Queued 3x for ranked, crashed 3x
Can someone can tell me if there will be other champions this months or when there’s will be new champions
Rank is injerious to health not for toxic people or something else. Only for bad matchmaking. Either the enemy is way strong than my team or I get players who gets dc or insta picks like casuals or stops playing when don't get heal all time.
Yeah like what is that. yet there are players climbing the ranks like that aint a problem
Never played ranked. I was 10 minutes into queue and decided to play quickplay.
Does the ranked rating system work in lower elo? I always duo with a friend who I love playing with, but realistically I'm 10x better than him according to everyone we've ever played with, and I'm Legitimately a higher rank than him, however I end up mid to bottom and he is always top pick? Makes 0 sense to me
Yes it does
He wins more games than you do
It’s elo based
Everyone has a rank that is displayed and a rank that is elo.
What do you think about the chance of people like me on controller getting to a high rank?
You can get to GM with good aim. But to do that you need to play controller on pc not with console
I DO!!!! I only need to get like 1 win a day and I’ll be fine 33:12
28:23 I may not have a brain, gentlemen, but I have an idea
Yayyyyyyyyy i can do better in ranked now, thanks andrew
i swear every game i play in brazil i got a brazilian with the mic on with some diavolic quilombo going on in the back, so annoying that not only i have to figure out what they say because "barrier language", they also have obnoxious noise
dont get in a match with cheaters
That is the current frustration and reason why i don't play ranked.
Can you still play ranked
Hi is this live
Paladins ranked is over populater by under lvl 100 players that dont know how to draft and trowing half the maches just by not knowing what counters what or just not picking a tank
You overrate Mal’Damba and Grohk and then underrate other supports like Ying or Rei
No he doesn’t you just don’t know meta
@@rossschweinforth3910 Mal’Damba is very strong but he is not stronger than Ying
@@rossschweinforth3910 he’s always liked those two supports and not liked Ying especially and if it wasn’t a pattern for him than it could’ve just been an opinion but it just sounds like cope
@@Nine_Guinea_Pigshe is stronger than Ying (which is painful to say as a ying main). All Ying does is heal an insane amount. However damba has higher dmg and his stun which makes him better in late game
My advice: meta is for losers, play what you find fun. It's always better to build your champion around your playstyle, not the other way around (I'm a hyper aggressive Drogoz and Makoa main f.e.)
Same but Vora main. sometimes players ask how can I choose what I choose then they see how good I am with my character
As a console player, crossplay made it almost impossible to pass gold rank. Before crossplay I even reached diamond IV but now because of crossplay it's impossible because there are some pc players who carry the whole team wether you pick a meta or not. And I wish crossplay becomes optional
You can turn it off for non ranked. Can you not do it for ranked?
@@rhyanvalk7897 unfortunately it's obligatory you can't join a ranked match if it's not on
@@rayanvivo5311 ow ye then its super unfair its like totally different game on pc. Great example are skye(and other flanks) where pc player can turn around almost instantly
@@rhyanvalk7897 Yeah Im PC and hate it that console has a better aim assist and I struggle to see who is cheating because its almost like aimbot
Lol if I get in a lobby with a PC player (currently learning new champions via casuals), they barely do anything but complain and want a pocket and complain more if they die with a pocket. Really that's any platform where they complain but they really can't carry a pop tart
But I’m on controller 🥺 25:56
Ranked too many stupid players. Tanks keep rushing to pt.
Spam need healing all the time.
Flanks playing at pt.
2 tanks needed someone picks dps.
Game not going good. Report report report.
Why did you make the first point/s at the first position...😮💨🤦♂️ Literally, everything is more important. I've seen wins with everything in streams as well as in my games. This game has so few people who play well while playing seriously (rn), and the balance is much better than in previous years. We all know that one of the biggest problems is toxicity, and that gets worse every time someone says, "Nah, that champ/comb is unplayable." Deck composition, fitting usage of your abilities, havin many champions/decks to play, not giving up instantly, using ults right, being unpredictable and communicating can carry you much, much further while still being fun. I hate that extreme meta focus in this game more than the bugs it has. Sure, Meta is great, but we literally just learned the meta before it changes imensly again. There are not even enough games in that little time between changes to test just half of all the combs and dont even scratch all the deck combinations.
If you really want to win games you thought you can't, PLAY THEM and dont be a toxic ahole. Correct those people ONCE, and if they say no, be fkin quiet and try to make the best out of it. Every second round someone cries and plays like trash because someone's pick is not meta enough. Fun fact: THERE WILL BE ALLWAYS THOSE PEOPLE. Isn't that why we love Paladins? These rounds, nothing worked like it should, but you and your team still made something out of it.
Apologies for the rant. Ultimately, the developers are at fault. The best player, so usually the one with the most champions, picks first, often without any opportunity to see what the others can/will play (despite real communication through voice or chat). In reality, the pick system itself is toxic because, as a "good" player, you're expected to prepare for mistakes your teammates could make, often with little or no information.
Last picks have it even worse. They can't choose what they want (as long as it isn't an obviously easy champion) because most often no one trusts a last pick and dont want to save ("there's a reason you're last pick..."). Then, as the official worst on the team, they have to pick a champion they can play that is still available while it still needs to be meta.
So, the worst players have the hardest time picking, while the best players have the hardest time compensating for mistakes.
How can this not be toxic?
All players would need to be the most agreeable and communicative personalities while being incredibly resilient to real trolls. That's simply impossible.
We either need a way to show champions to the team before picking so everyone can better prepare, or we need to reverse the pick order so the worst players pick or ban first.
P.S. I'm not saying it doesn’t work as it is now, but it will always be somewhat toxic in the pick phase unless something changes.
@@Redmentoos pre-picks would be awesome rather then the one at a time method. Bans could happen first and then a few minutes to team pick and strategize like in war, You huddle together first. Or a 50% ban 50% pick and then again 50% ban 50% pick. It would definitely eliminate the current frustrations of noobs doing noob things
Yeah, that would be a bigger change, but by pre-picks, I meant like in casual wich allows you to just click your champs to communicate which champion you are going to use/can use. Actually, in lower elo, inorder for people who pick last to get there champs the high picks need to save them but then they need to set a lot of trust in them, so most often in single rank they won't(despite Big meta picks..) and if they fill bad because no saved ("worse" players often communicate worse too..) they get flamed because they make mistakes or don't do well. It's a lot of pressure, and it kinda sucks because they're already low rank, and now get flamed for it just because there the last one to decide if its a good comb. I think it might be more fair if they changed the pick order so that it is the best one wich picks last and the "worst" one wo picks first. But baning should still the best one (so last pick), so if the worse ones pick bad, they do it on start, and the good people can try to build strategies with and around there probably bad picks.
omg andrew chicken ty sooooo much omg i went from bronze to gm5 in a week with this guide