Good let them dig their grave, France and the Netherlands have confirmed that their will be 2 or 3 competitors challenging Eurostar monopoly. Tickets starts at 19 ponds from pairs to London or 39 euros from Groningen/ Amsterdam to London also stopping in the station Monopolystar ditched like Calais, Stratford and Ebsfleet
@@blackmercury956stratford never opened to international trains as it was intended as the london station for trains onwards to birmingham, manchester, wales, and scotland
@@alexrussell2903Yes HS1 is owned by a private company and the charges per mile are the highest in the U.K. probably Europe. Don’t you just love the tories selling off the family silver.
Great stuff. I did the reverse journey back in 1997 - Eurostar to Brussels, then Belgian Railways the rest of the way, including a 15 minute turnaround in Antwerp where the train reversed direction, meaning thwdriver had to change ends - he was in no hurry, strolling along the platform. The whole trip took nearly 7 hours, but it was great fun.
2:03 As a Dutchman and train enthousiast, the iconic "Koploper" units are my favourite trains in The Netherlands. Both design and comfort are amazing! Sadly they will be phased out over the next years, when the new ICNG-sets (Alstom Coradia Stream) are being entered into service.
NO hiding between opposed facing seats on those... or maybe the onderkoffer technique luggage racks +seat layout but i did evade fair on icMm rroutes by squeezing myself between/ underneath 2 soppossing seats, example deventer amsterdam or the longest.... with 4-4-3 cars and trail police even checking luggage racks and toilets and indeed the inbetween seats space but i had a camping bag in front of me, "het stinkt zo naar zwartrijdende zwervermoeten er nu uit, voorste gedeelte is ontkoppeld en alweg , (ns walkietalkie geluid" "zijn jullie klaar?" "ja, alleen is hier een zwerfescampeertas achter, " "ach die gaat later mee naar de nieuwe lost&found in a'dam CS' 'ROGER' die was close
Coaches 1-8 are off limit on this route before Brussels I think due to the fact they have to block off entry to the platforms at Amsterdam and Rotterdam which are otherwise regular platforms, and for this they block off the back of the platform but keep the front open. It may be to do with staff but it's certainly a regular and planned thing, as you can't get seats in those carriages if booking from the Netherlands.
The reason only half of the platform is blocked off is also because Eurostar was originally expected to offer tickets between the Shengen area stations on these trains. For immigration reasons those two passenger streams were not allowed to mix, so half of the Dutch platforms has no way of fencing them off for passengers who did not pass security, and the two halfs of the trains are kept separate. In Brussels the Shengen part of the train then had to have a full security sweep before the train could continue to London. Eurostar stopped selling those tickets way sooner than planned, probably to eliminate the security sweep at Brussels, but due to the Dutch platforms has just kept that half of the train completely inaccessible to everyone.
4 hours to travel 550km! Why I hate high speed rail, the average speed is so low. Just do 125mph S train accelerating EMU's, which can also make many more stops along the way. And those trains actually feel fast, high speed trains just look fast.
Great trip as always. I took the Eurostar to Amsterdam in October 2022 but came back via Thalys through Brussels as it was a lot cheaper to change there for a Eurostar. Lucky you got it at such a bargain. Hopefully they'll do some offers again someday
What’s great about buying an Oyster card on board, you probably have to pay by credit card so if you do, don’t bother, just use the credit card the same as an Oyster card, same cost and one less card to worry about
It's a great train but the prices you generally get when trying to book are almost always higher than a comparable flight (Rotterdam to London City). When booking on short notice, nothing is available or the price is twice of what BA charges for the flight. It seems to be a popular option (and it should be), but too expensive.
@@RicardoCristofRemmertFontes Tell that to the Caledonian Sleeper and OBB's NightJet. Caledonian fares are more expensive than an easyJet flight between London and Scotland plus a budget airport hotel. And NightJet fares can now be as high as €900
@@JackJackProductions You shouldn't compare to sleeper services, though. They're two completely different types of journey. Given it's just over 4 hours on LNER or Lumo direct from King's Cross to Edinburgh, you don't need a sleeper and the journey isn't much more expensive. Factor in the cost of getting to/from airports in London and Edinburgh and it's cheaper. If you choose to go on a sleeper (in the UK especially) you're not doing it for transport, you're doing it for the experience.
@@joj. As the Points Guy proved, between London and Edinburgh, flying easyJet between Edinburgh and Luton is faster plus can be cheaper then the train. I have seen easyJet fares between London and Glasgow/ Edinburgh for ~£20 one way. Tag on, a tenner to get to Luton Airport then another £5-10 to get from Edinburgh/ Glasgow Airport to the city and you are still saving money compared to the train
Next improvement to Eurostar (and any other high speed or intercity lines) would be to have direction adjustable seat configuration like they have (quite standard) in Japan.
Oh yes! I was riding on the Shinkansen HSR in Taiwan with a group and we only discovered that when we saw the seats turning automatically at our destination. One bright spark worked out that you could manually turn them so we could face each other.
For passenges, with the turntable seats in Japan, the seat pitch is less than you'd usually get for a table seat if you want to sit as a group. For the train operators, the pitch is bigger than you'd usually get on airline style seating, so they can fit fewer people in if the seats are turnable.
Thanks for sharing those information, o e thing can I book multiple trips using euro star app , say if I wanted to visit Paris then Berlin, Germany, Amsterdam and Rotterdam what’s your best option?
The longer the ride the better you can take the plane. Going from Brussels to London takes 2 hours that doenst make clear difference taking the plane but from Amsterdam to London with this Euostar it takes 4 hours! The plane not even 1 hour I guess (except the way from London airports to Central London).
Please do a review onboard the RENFE AVE S102 Talgo pato and the Alvia S730 from Madrid to Extremadura. Good video, I am subscribed to your channel. Happy New year
However, with London City Airport, flying is just as fast as the train. As The Points Guy proved. A KLM flight from London City to Amsterdam against a Eurostar
@@JackJackProductions I used to commute regularly between Rotterdam and LCY. While theoretically what you say is true, getting to and from LCY is a royal pain at the best of times and adds somewhat to the length of the journey depending upon your starting point. Additionally, bad weather tends to affect flights more. I have had take offs shifted to Brussels and Biggen Hill at the last moment due to heavy fog before. Turbulence is also an experience as the planes from LCY are tiny and offer little resistance to being buffeted around by strong winds. It's not for everyone.
@@egbront1506Wheras by flying you get free food and drink onboard even in the cheap seats. As both BA and KLM give passengers in short haul economy free food and drinks
@@JackJackProductions It's literally like a ten minute window to dish out the sandwiches and collect the debris. Most of the flight is climbing, descending and taxiing, where you have to stay in your seat. I rarely bothered with it, to be honest.
Unfortunately due 19 years of dithering and delay over which time, the costs of HS2 increased, when you get into London you have travel on get only a train that runs on Victorian Infastucture. It's much cheaper and far more convenient for me to travel to Amsterdam from the centre of England by air
Have you tried the dutch base trains? We normally call then stoptrains because they stop at all stations but they do get used for main city traffic.. There also is a newer model that rolls inbetween the older models, they are white and blue like the older version but the new ones have yellow on the front
my favorite logo for thalys and eurostar are the old logos because they look like it's cutting through the air, also I'm so jealous you do train rides as basically your job
I love the old Eurostar logo more, and they should honestly have just kept that "Thalys" name for the old Thalys service so as not to confuse people with Eurostar "red" and "blue"
Deus DEUS DEUS E MARAVILHOSO GRANDE PODEROSO DEUS JEOVÁ JIREH SHALOM SENHOR uma boa noite um bom dia na graças do SENHOR JESUS CRISTO SHAĹOM SALVADOR ADORADORES i irmãos igreja do Senhor em Londres ❤❤❤❤ um bom Natal na graças do SENHOR JESUS CRISTO SALVADOR SHAĹOM IRMÃOS LONDRES O EU RO ESTA E MARAVILHOSO MUITO BONITO UM BOM FINAL DE ANO UM ANO NOVO
Eurostar was born in an age that never saw cheap flights, England to France was meant to be just the start of high speed services starting from Leeds and going as far as Berlin. You can literally fly from almost anywhere in the UK to Berlin for about £20 if you book in advance...anywhere in between is just gonna be £/€ little difference with connections. With hindsight, the tunnel should have been a road.
Not if you count in exhaust fumes and environmental costs. Then the plane and car are far more expensive. They are on borrowed time. So the tunnel was far ahead in time.
Jesus é maravilhoso maravilhoso gessiffc yfernandes ANO novo ❤❤ GESSIFFC FERNANDES França 🇫🇷 BÊNÇÃO família graças e paz feliz ANO NOVO VIDA VIDA NOVA CON JESUS CRISTO SALVADOR SHAĹOM MARAVILHOSO ❤❤❤DANIEL SILVA FAMÍLIA COSTA ESPOSO BÊNÇÃO ❤❤❤
ASA just ruled last week that Eurostar's "from £39" adverts break their rules, because there are so few tickets actually available at those prices!
Amazing, now hopefully they will actually Lower the general ticket prices
Nope they will keep prices low as HS1 likes to charge high
Good let them dig their grave, France and the Netherlands have confirmed that their will be 2 or 3 competitors challenging Eurostar monopoly. Tickets starts at 19 ponds from pairs to London or 39 euros from Groningen/ Amsterdam to London also stopping in the station Monopolystar ditched like Calais, Stratford and Ebsfleet
@@blackmercury956stratford never opened to international trains as it was intended as the london station for trains onwards to birmingham, manchester, wales, and scotland
@@alexrussell2903Yes HS1 is owned by a private company and the charges per mile are the highest in the U.K. probably Europe. Don’t you just love the tories selling off the family silver.
Great stuff. I did the reverse journey back in 1997 - Eurostar to Brussels, then Belgian Railways the rest of the way, including a 15 minute turnaround in Antwerp where the train reversed direction, meaning thwdriver had to change ends - he was in no hurry, strolling along the platform. The whole trip took nearly 7 hours, but it was great fun.
I gotta say if all the trip report TH-camrs you have by far the best exterior train shots, that opening one was awesome
2:03 As a Dutchman and train enthousiast, the iconic "Koploper" units are my favourite trains in The Netherlands. Both design and comfort are amazing! Sadly they will be phased out over the next years, when the new ICNG-sets (Alstom Coradia Stream) are being entered into service.
NO hiding between opposed facing seats on those... or maybe the onderkoffer technique luggage racks +seat layout but i did evade fair on icMm rroutes by squeezing myself between/ underneath 2 soppossing seats, example deventer amsterdam or the longest.... with 4-4-3 cars and trail police even checking luggage racks and toilets and indeed the inbetween seats space but i had a camping bag in front of me, "het stinkt zo naar zwartrijdende zwervermoeten er nu uit, voorste gedeelte is ontkoppeld en alweg , (ns walkietalkie geluid" "zijn jullie klaar?" "ja, alleen is hier een zwerfescampeertas achter, " "ach die gaat later mee naar de nieuwe lost&found in a'dam CS' 'ROGER' die was close
Very informative. Thank you for posting 😊
How did you make that map animation 3:27? Looks very good!
Coaches 1-8 are off limit on this route before Brussels I think due to the fact they have to block off entry to the platforms at Amsterdam and Rotterdam which are otherwise regular platforms, and for this they block off the back of the platform but keep the front open. It may be to do with staff but it's certainly a regular and planned thing, as you can't get seats in those carriages if booking from the Netherlands.
The reason only half of the platform is blocked off is also because Eurostar was originally expected to offer tickets between the Shengen area stations on these trains. For immigration reasons those two passenger streams were not allowed to mix, so half of the Dutch platforms has no way of fencing them off for passengers who did not pass security, and the two halfs of the trains are kept separate. In Brussels the Shengen part of the train then had to have a full security sweep before the train could continue to London. Eurostar stopped selling those tickets way sooner than planned, probably to eliminate the security sweep at Brussels, but due to the Dutch platforms has just kept that half of the train completely inaccessible to everyone.
4 hours to travel 550km! Why I hate high speed rail, the average speed is so low. Just do 125mph S train accelerating EMU's, which can also make many more stops along the way. And those trains actually feel fast, high speed trains just look fast.
Great trip as always. I took the Eurostar to Amsterdam in October 2022 but came back via Thalys through Brussels as it was a lot cheaper to change there for a Eurostar.
Lucky you got it at such a bargain. Hopefully they'll do some offers again someday
Amazing video Midland. I love Eurostar.
Good video as always👍
12:21 There is also a NIGHTJET to Vienna,Austria. That train rides three times a week 😊
I just took this train last week and it was fantastic. I love Eurostar. I wish we had this in the U.S.
Soon-Brightline
@@kida758 We'll see. When construction starts, I'll be much more hopeful.
@@TheRailwayDrone hasn't the majority of the line in Florida been built ? Or are you talking about brightline west
First comment.I am a big fan of you🎉.Thanks for showing the trains around the world.Keep up the good work 🎉.😊
What’s great about buying an Oyster card on board, you probably have to pay by credit card so if you do, don’t bother, just use the credit card the same as an Oyster card, same cost and one less card to worry about
It's a great train but the prices you generally get when trying to book are almost always higher than a comparable flight (Rotterdam to London City). When booking on short notice, nothing is available or the price is twice of what BA charges for the flight. It seems to be a popular option (and it should be), but too expensive.
This journey should always be cheaper than flying
Every train journey should be cheaper than flying.
@@RicardoCristofRemmertFontes Tell that to the Caledonian Sleeper and OBB's NightJet. Caledonian fares are more expensive than an easyJet flight between London and Scotland plus a budget airport hotel. And NightJet fares can now be as high as €900
@@JackJackProductions You shouldn't compare to sleeper services, though. They're two completely different types of journey. Given it's just over 4 hours on LNER or Lumo direct from King's Cross to Edinburgh, you don't need a sleeper and the journey isn't much more expensive. Factor in the cost of getting to/from airports in London and Edinburgh and it's cheaper.
If you choose to go on a sleeper (in the UK especially) you're not doing it for transport, you're doing it for the experience.
@@joj. As the Points Guy proved, between London and Edinburgh, flying easyJet between Edinburgh and Luton is faster plus can be cheaper then the train. I have seen easyJet fares between London and Glasgow/ Edinburgh for ~£20 one way. Tag on, a tenner to get to Luton Airport then another £5-10 to get from Edinburgh/ Glasgow Airport to the city and you are still saving money compared to the train
@@RicardoCristofRemmertFontes In the reality it isn't cheaper. It could be cheaper because the train wasn't full
Next improvement to Eurostar (and any other high speed or intercity lines) would be to have direction adjustable seat configuration like they have (quite standard) in Japan.
Oh yes! I was riding on the Shinkansen HSR in Taiwan with a group and we only discovered that when we saw the seats turning automatically at our destination. One bright spark worked out that you could manually turn them so we could face each other.
For passenges, with the turntable seats in Japan, the seat pitch is less than you'd usually get for a table seat if you want to sit as a group. For the train operators, the pitch is bigger than you'd usually get on airline style seating, so they can fit fewer people in if the seats are turnable.
It says changes at brussles does that mean I have to get off the train and on another one?
Thanks for sharing those information, o e thing can I book multiple trips using euro star app , say if I wanted to visit Paris then Berlin, Germany, Amsterdam and Rotterdam what’s your best option?
The longer the ride the better you can take the plane. Going from Brussels to London takes 2 hours that doenst make clear difference taking the plane but from Amsterdam to London with this Euostar it takes 4 hours! The plane not even 1 hour I guess (except the way from London airports to Central London).
Please do a review onboard the RENFE AVE S102 Talgo pato and the Alvia S730 from Madrid to Extremadura. Good video, I am subscribed to your channel. Happy New year
We''ve just booked this for April, £41 pp each way.
Great video! I'd be down to try this one day! It's amazing you can get from Amsterdam to London in just four hours!
However, with London City Airport, flying is just as fast as the train. As The Points Guy proved. A KLM flight from London City to Amsterdam against a Eurostar
@@JackJackProductions I used to commute regularly between Rotterdam and LCY. While theoretically what you say is true, getting to and from LCY is a royal pain at the best of times and adds somewhat to the length of the journey depending upon your starting point. Additionally, bad weather tends to affect flights more. I have had take offs shifted to Brussels and Biggen Hill at the last moment due to heavy fog before. Turbulence is also an experience as the planes from LCY are tiny and offer little resistance to being buffeted around by strong winds. It's not for everyone.
@@egbront1506Wheras by flying you get free food and drink onboard even in the cheap seats. As both BA and KLM give passengers in short haul economy free food and drinks
@@JackJackProductions It's literally like a ten minute window to dish out the sandwiches and collect the debris. Most of the flight is climbing, descending and taxiing, where you have to stay in your seat. I rarely bothered with it, to be honest.
@@egbront1506 however flying between London and Amsterdam ain't broke, it has worked for many decades, so why fix it
Unfortunately due 19 years of dithering and delay over which time, the costs of HS2 increased, when you get into London you have travel on get only a train that runs on Victorian Infastucture.
It's much cheaper and far more convenient for me to travel to Amsterdam from the centre of England by air
OPET 5:51
Thanks for sharing this video it was good I hope to do this Eurostar Journey soon I did this but to France I’m hoping go to Brussels on the Eurostar
Have you tried the dutch base trains? We normally call then stoptrains because they stop at all stations but they do get used for main city traffic..
There also is a newer model that rolls inbetween the older models, they are white and blue like the older version but the new ones have yellow on the front
Heck try to make a collab with eurotrip since he hasn't tried the new one either to my knowledge
Stop trains is not being used anymore. Nowadays they are called Sprinters.
@@MLWitteman sorry we use that term still as a nickname, i forgot it was sprinters also😅 i haven't gone by train anywhere in years
@@stijnVDA1994 I understand completely. I take the train almost everyday, so all this train stuff is almost etched into my brain. Haha
@@MLWitteman have you seen the video by non-stop eurotrip on the sprinters? It's somewhat recent actually
£29 is reslly cheap. i travelled from london to readong and back for £36 (yes, multiple people, but still much less length)
my favorite logo for thalys and eurostar are the old logos because they look like it's cutting through the air, also I'm so jealous you do train rides as basically your job
I love the old Eurostar logo more, and they should honestly have just kept that "Thalys" name for the old Thalys service so as not to confuse people with Eurostar "red" and "blue"
Does it drive on the left or right?
between amsterdam and rotterdam on the right, but as soon as it enters the high speed line between rotterdam and belgium, it switches to the left.
@@melaniedrogr951 thanks
Just now I checked it 184 euros minimum
Soon the connection will be suspended because of works in Amsterdam Central Station.
5:50
but did you have an UK Visa to travel on that train ? 😅😅😅
Suella Braverman personally stamped it in his passport
buddy at 3:03 doesn't like sharing.
what the inspections look like and how long they take
An average 3 minute bus fare in the UK costs around £100 now so this is incredibly cheap in comparison.
Amsterdam to London for 29 pounds if you book 25 years before traveling...
It costs more to cross the Netherlands than it costs to go to London.... 😢😅
5:47 you started the journey at 13:47 and ended at 17:02, that is 3 hours and 15 minutes
If that is 17:02 UK time it would be 18:02 NL time, so 4hrs and 15 mins.
very cool
disclaimer:
the soil in netherlands is rather not made for 300 kilometers per hour but 250 kilometers per hour
If the UK train drivers aren't on strike
Deus DEUS DEUS E MARAVILHOSO GRANDE PODEROSO DEUS JEOVÁ JIREH SHALOM SENHOR uma boa noite um bom dia na graças do SENHOR JESUS CRISTO SHAĹOM SALVADOR ADORADORES i irmãos igreja do Senhor em Londres ❤❤❤❤ um bom Natal na graças do SENHOR JESUS CRISTO SALVADOR SHAĹOM IRMÃOS LONDRES O EU RO ESTA E MARAVILHOSO MUITO BONITO UM BOM FINAL DE ANO UM ANO NOVO
Eurostar was born in an age that never saw cheap flights, England to France was meant to be just the start of high speed services starting from Leeds and going as far as Berlin. You can literally fly from almost anywhere in the UK to Berlin for about £20 if you book in advance...anywhere in between is just gonna be £/€ little difference with connections. With hindsight, the tunnel should have been a road.
Not if you count in exhaust fumes and environmental costs. Then the plane and car are far more expensive. They are on borrowed time. So the tunnel was far ahead in time.
Jesus é maravilhoso maravilhoso gessiffc yfernandes ANO novo ❤❤ GESSIFFC FERNANDES França 🇫🇷 BÊNÇÃO família graças e paz feliz ANO NOVO VIDA VIDA NOVA CON JESUS CRISTO SALVADOR SHAĹOM MARAVILHOSO ❤❤❤DANIEL SILVA FAMÍLIA COSTA ESPOSO BÊNÇÃO ❤❤❤
Eurostar needs competition - but post Brexit (and the increased immigration checks) that won't be coming anytime soon 😠😠😒😒
Amsterdam isn't the capital of the Netherlands, Den Haag is.
No Amsterdam is - I invite you to check any other source of information that will tell you the same 👍
@@OMtheRails Oh, you are right. Sorry for the mistake. Not as clever as I thought I was.