I really hope this remake excelled in sales so the company doesn't give up on this series. I confess I think I like this games more than the main ones.
The main ones gave many of the things reused by MD however lol. Including now these models although they're compressed. This game doesn't have to sell for the series to continue btw, it's a slightly improved remake. If anything they'll eventually change strategy, MD will not die, Super surely sold well and they made a single pause till now.
@@Terapagos3000 No, Super didn't sell well, it only sold slightly over 1 million compared to Explorers of Sky/Time/Darkness which sold nearly 6 million copies altogether. Chunsoft implied that Super Mystery Dungeon was going to be the last game. This remake seems to be a test to see if the series is still relevant and people still have an interest in it. If you don't think PMD DX is worth buying, that's fine, but for people that really enjoy the PMD series, the sales of these games matter. If we want the series to continue with new games, this game needs to sell well. I'm buying it because Red/Blue Rescue Team is a great game and I want to support a series I love, especially when the developers are not an extremely wealthy company (like Gamefreak) and actually put effort into their game's stories.
@@AuraKumo104 I really enjoy the pmd series and I think Red/Blue Rescue are great, and still this remake isn't worth it for me. I don't remember the statements about Super or if it was just the "definitive" md followed by a pause, however they already broke that statement as however it could be, statements over successful series are always temporary. You can ask for MD without having to pay for it, to then pay again for the actual new MD... I don't think it would be logical of anyone to consider a remake of that size a matter of decision over a series, but Super not selling much at least makes me understand why they would do a remake
In a generation where pokemon games are typically dumbed down to mindless battling, PMD remake is such a huge and much needed breath of fresh air that gives us what weve been craving for for years.
That and it doesn't helpt that the newer PMD were hot garbage. (Forced myself to play through them and boy were they horrendous, they even managed to fuck up the balancing even more) None of them had even close the charm, athmosphere and love of the first two PMD-games. I do hope that the remake has some additional stuff in it, else i'd just grab my old cartridge and play that one again. Not quite a fan of the minimalistic backgrounds in the village, sadly. They looked a bit lazy in the demo.
time and darkness are games that made me lock myself in the bathroom with the volume off mashing A when ever i reached the ending on my multiple playthroughs and even then i still cried.
I cried during the end of Blue Rescue Team (Charizard made me cry) time/darkness/time made me cry when Grovyle sacrificed himself. And when we were suppose to go bye bye in PMD2 I was happy that we will be with Grovyle again but no we had to be sent back.
@@amanogirl1 its better in sky since we have the Grovyle special episode but because i played time/darkness first it is only assumed that grovyle is dead and you need to live with that for the rest of the game and it sucks.
One thing to consider as to why PMD1 was chosen to be remade: PMD1 is the only game in the series not to be dependent on the dual screen formula. Remember, as you mentioned, Red Rescue Team was released onto the GBA, which was a single screen system, like the Switch. Thus, if they still had the source code available, there's probably more code that could be reused than the other games, making it a cheaper game to test the waters with.
You've managed to sum up exactly why I love this series so much and why I, and many others, are praying that Rescue Team DX is able to sell well. Brilliant video, this is criminally underviewed. Explorers will always be my favourite games and nothing will change that, but seeing them remade would honestly be magical. Here's to a 2021/2022 Explorers remake!
I’ve never played explorers or rescue team. Gates was my very first game. My grandma got me it for a present on my birthday. I tried it, and I couldn’t figure out how to use attacks. I left it for a few years. Then I went back to it. I played it, and I LOVED IT! I instantly started researching on this game and now I finally get to play rescue team!
@@pekowhomst7994 Gates had some issues here and there, well at least in comparison to the other PMD titles, but on its own it really is rather fantastic
I am aware during PMD1 there are some times the screen fades to black and you can see a faint line on a side, but after working on this every chance I got since the announcement of this game, quite frankly I'm tired... Anyway, this is my first shot at discussing something I'm this passionate about, so I'd genuinely like to know how it was received! Thank you for watching, this series is very important to me, so I appreciate you taking the time to hear what I have to say! Edit: PSMD was 2016, not 2015. I got confused with the Europe release date, sorry I better edit this in; I have been absolutely blown away by the reception this video has received. I created this because I wanted to express how I felt about these games to a level of depth that I never have the chance to while I'm streaming or just chatting with somebody. The fact that the passion that I expressed was able to draw that same passion out of so many of you all has been an absolute honor! It's incredible to be able to scroll through the comments, and read passage after passage of people reminiscing about their own personal experiences with PMD, how much they love the games, how it's managed to make a positive impact on their lives, or even just how much this video was able to draw out of them. Every comment like that, I want to be able to address and properly respond to as many as I can, as you can see though there's a LOT, so I apologize if I don't get to yours if it gets lost somewhere within the mix. This has been an incredibly wholesome response as a whole when it comes to the comments here, and it's been fascinating to see just how much PMD has had an affect on everybody taking the time to write those. When I think of some of the coolest things ever associated with this channel, honestly, I'll think of the comments section to this video.
AcousticHarmonia i’d say you did a damn fine job i can’t believe how well you summed up these games that i consider to be best of all time (in my opinion) thank you so much for this mate
@@4vatarnick It's incredible how much of an impact they've made on so many people like ourselves. When I think of games that genuinely make life better off for having gotten to experience, these are what I think of
AcousticHarmonia at this rate i just sit and pray that these games sell enough to convince Spike Chunsoft that it’s worth continuing since its sad that PSMD was so under appreciated and could have brought many back if they just went through the beginning portion of the game
Haha, glad to hear that the PMD series has been able to have such an impact like that. They're such emotional rollercoaster games, in the best possible way
Ending got me drifting down and then the bubbles start drifting drifting and finally gone all the while watching some one you care about bawl there eyes out I may forget but that last scenario is echched into my brain
Coming from someone who has had a hard copy of every single Mystery Dungeon game; Starting from Red Rescue Team all the way up to Super Mystery Dungeon; And even having a hard copy of both Explorers of Darkness and Explorers of Sky; Seeing the Mystery Dungeon series come back after so long is such a sight to see. These games tell a story that can rival some of the greatest novels out there. It engages you to keep playing. Pressing on through each challenge to find out what happens next. To overcome the odds of staring down legendaries in battle just to progress that much further away from adversity. To show the complex issues of morality being much more than black and white pick a side type of thing. To show that there is real emotion behind the actions one person can make that can influence another in that complex morality tree. Going back to where it all began can bring both veterans like myself back into the action and at the same time expose a new generation to the unique gameplay and emphasis on storytelling to perhaps bring the series back to new heights.
Few other works made me want to become a storyteller so I could give to other people the kind of feelings this game gave me. One of my biggest dreams would be to work on such a game
To anyone who's played these games you know the powerful emotions that show up during certain parts of all the games the story in all the games is phenomenal. These games hold a special place in the hearts of anyone who has played them.
Brady King red was my child hood was a mudkip then a squirrel then a meaoth played it till it broke literally it burned out I’m stoaked but sadly I don’t own a switch probs gonna have to save for five months to afford it but dam will it be worth it I hope at least
I really hope PMD2 gets a remake too. Or we get a new game. Or anything really, I don’t think I’m ready to say goodbye to this series that was such a huge part of my childhood
To be honest, unless they put the same or more amount of care they did with pmdx, I prefer not to touch the greatness of pmd2. A new game would be great, if they decide to take their time to develop it. They have created fantastic stories with these games before, I'm sure they can make another new surprise. They can take years and years if necessary, I don't care. I just want a game that's worth paying for.
If they did bring back pmd2, I'm hoping it brings everything great about it back and then some, simply put I want it to bring back everything that made it what it is, while also refining and improving it, like better storage!
Actually the "unnamed remixer" in the intro is called Own eye. Also the same remixer that is unnamed at the very end of the video. Sad story behind that name, i remember that :c Essentially he got so scared of copyright related things he just deleted himself from the internet. Or rather, created a second channel and now he only posts originals, but he still exists under a new name. He is now called "Skarblown District" I'd attribute the remix to his original name, as he likely doesn't want the association with those old remixes anymore.
That's not actually the name, at least not the most recent name that content was listed under, though I think that has been one used to refer to them, maybe the original channel. I leave their actual name uncredited, as they deleted all their content out of fear of copyright strikes. They were strictly against reuploading their content, but I did regardless because of how incredible their work is, but leave them as "Unnamed Remixer" as respect toward their wishes not to be linked to their work. Some people have reuploaded their original videos, with full credit to the original creator, which I think is wrong considering they didn't want to be linked to their work anymore. I actually briefly thought about deleting that comment just because I don't like that work being linked to the person who specifically wanted not to be linked to it, not even for it to be reuploaded, but decided not to because of how many have reuploaded it with full credit anyway. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562408408490442753/671730620673818624/Untitled.png
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a game that I experienced when I came out for my birthday, having been told about it by the anime special of all things. While the original is clunky and even as a kid I hated the brutal nature of it, the story kept me going, and it pretty much is the reason I know that games can be more than something quick and to the point like Mario or Sonic. So to see that a remake of that game that is probably the most important game I've ever played to my development as a person, gives me joy I cannot even express in words well enough. Though let me say my joy is enough to have made me buy a Switch outright after it's release after at first waiting for it to get cheaper or for a pro model, and to buy it both digitally and physically before release. I want this to succeed, and I'm going to do my part to make it happen.
That's a really neat way to get into it there! For me I remember I received PMD1 as my first game on my first handheld console ever, the DS. It's what showed me as well that that kind of depth can exist in a game. I only saw the anime special like way after the fact, though I did read the manga like a year or so after I first played the game. It was... strange? But enjoyable. Glad to hear that you're hyped up for it! I actually only just walked in the door after placing my preorder, haha
I got PMD1 for my birthday a few months after release, having seen it in stores and being absolutely enthralled with the premise. Boy, I spent so many hours on RRT and EoD/EoS. I really hope you're right about explorers remakes happening.
@@RedJake33 So do I, it just seems strange that the less popular one would be remade, I mean I guess it's not by a lot that it was less popular to be fair. PMD1 and 2 were so easy to dump so much time into indeed, hearing a lot of people mentioning how much the games have meant to them like this has been really cool
Do you remember me...? xD I'm still shocked for the DX announcement, man. This video was absolutely great, very well made. I can hear from your words that you're really passionate about this series, just like me. I think, however, that if Rescue Team DX will sell enough they'll go first with a "PMD5", instead of straight to a Explorers remake (which can still happen after PMD5). I mean, 2 remakes in a row? Uhm... Also... 2020: Rescue Team DX (15th anniversary of RT in Japan) 2023/2024: PMD5 2027: Explorers remake (20th anniversary of Explorers of Time/Darkness in Japan) I just really, REALLY hope that this remake will sell well. I've already pre-ordered my physical copy and can't wait to reach the fugitives part... and Sky Tower, of course. Mystery Dungeon is really special. Thanks for this video. Fingers crossed.
Name sounds partially familiar, haha Yeah, I couldn't believe that this game got announced. I was walking into for first Uni class of the day and went over Serebii to see what was covered in the direct, saw "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX" was announced, and began looking up details on it in the middle of the lecture... I feel like there's a decent chance of a PMD2 remake, or just something original. If the main series got Gen 4 remakes maybe it would pair well with that. I don't know which I'd be more thrilled to see, a PMD2 remake, or a PMD5, probably the remake honestly, because of how much that impacted me. I definitely wouldn't mind a timeline like that, and really hope it sells well as well. Should probably get my preorder in already. And yeah, the remade soundtrack is definitely something to look forward to. Glad you're super passionate about PMD as well, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I mean it's not even excellently improved as a remake at all either with the 14 years and console difference, plus those models now are so repetitive regardless. Gates to infinity shouldn't have sold much and they still made Super... I don't think at all they'll dump this series if a remake of the first fails, and I hope they'll not do other remakes anyway, MD doesn't need it. MD however is the most successful Pokemon spin-off, there will be more
Pmd 1 and 2 are the only games that made me cry at least a bit and even now in the remake i am so emotional...i really hope they see the passion of the fans and remake the secound on the switch!
THANK YOU for defending Super's story beginning. Certain story beats wouldn't have nearly the same impact if the beginning was shorter, but anytime I try to explain that, people seem to think I'm making it up, or that it's not as important as I make it out to be. Anyways, I'm really glad they chose Rescue Team to remake. PMD1, while having a good story, music, characters, etc. kinda has issues with it's core gameplay and postgame. A remake is a great way to fix those problems. We don't know if they're changing the postgame or not, but since the remake seems to be built off of Super's base, the gameplay already seems to be much improved. I really love it's new artstyle too. I love how they made the game look like the promotional artwork the series has had since the start. I can't wait to play the full game in March, and I'm glad this series is back.
Too many people judged Super way too harshly just because of the "slow start", but as you say, it has impacts on the plot later. It develops a bond that becomes genuinely believable, unlike previous cases where it's more like "please believe us these two are close". To be fair, PMD2 did a pretty good job with its partner, not as much as Super, I don't really recall Gates, and PMD1 I feel the partner could have been done much better, that one felt a bit forced to me. And yeah, PMD1 does seem like a good remaking option, ignoring the notes about its potential relevancy that is. It was the starting point for the series, and is already an incredible experience on its own. It would be nice if they fixed stuff with the postgame (like imagine if the starter evolutions get their own portrait arts like how Super got some, I'd love that). The artstyle is really cool, I just worry some people may look at it and decide it's just some strange looking remake of some niche game. Now it's just to wait until March!
@@AcousticHarmonia IMO Super would've been way better received if the text speed was just a little bit faster (or if they let you mash A to skip text boxes.) I really enjoyed my first playthrough, but consecutive playthroughs kind of became a slog because *god dammit I just want to get to the good bits.* Being able to mash A to get through tutorial segments would've helped out a lot. This is kind of true for all the PMD games, but SMD in particular added a lot of new features and thus has more tutorials than usual.
@@astracrits4633 You can make the text speed (and game speed in general) faster in the options, and if you hold down B, the text speed will go by even faster. It's not perfect, but it can help a lot.
This series. I forgot how much it meant to me. When the part of the video about PMD2 came on, and I started hearing the music again for the first time in years, I'm not ashamed to admit I burst into tears. One of my favorite games of all time. It always will be.
It's incredible how much the music is able to draw such emotions out, definitely one of the most emotional soundtracks out there The most beautiful covers of those themes I'd argue are from a certain creator who I won't name, as they deleted the content of their channel, and didn't want to be linked to their work anymore out of fear of copyright strikes. I reuploaded their content a while back, and I believe internet video archive did as well, except they uploaded the original videos with full credit to the creator who didn't want to be linked to their work... Their covers of Through The Sea Of Time and Don't Ever Forget are some of the few remixes I'd genuinely call masterpieces. I used part of the former for a little while in this video, didn't with the latter. Would highly recommend this incredible music, but warn it's really emotional th-cam.com/video/zQ25_ZJCJVg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/jCY0Ov7lu4A/w-d-xo.html
@@AcousticHarmonia those were incredible. So many memories packed into each note. I've fully decided to, as a dancer, choreograph full dances to them both for old times sake.
@@amandaa212 That's really cool to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed them! I wish the original creator had stuck around long enough to do more than they did. Hope you have fun with that, that's actually a really cool idea to do with that kind of music!
(I don't count postgame as I think of the main plot being before all that. Darkrai is kinda the one thing I disliked about PMD2, though his fate was pretty poetic. I think I could genuinely believe that PMD2 was a perfect game if Darkrai was actually, y'know.... not just like "aha! I wanted a world of darkness! Isn't that just spicy?!?! Time to die stupid nerds!!!")
@@AcousticHarmonia Pretty sure the epilogue to the main plot should count as part of it. Darkrai does bring the game closer to perfection though, because it explains the biggest plot hole that was bothersome after the credits. Why was Temporal Tower crumbling in the first place? I'm pretty sure Dialga's presence made it impossible to degrade from age. Also, while I respect moral complexity, even in real life there genuinely are some people who are truly just evil. Not everything is black and white, but some things are. Some people just want power without a care for how their selfishness affects others. It was a valuable lesson to learn as a child. I respect the game for having the balls to teach it while still advocating for that usually not being the case with most people. Too many people believe these days that true evil doesn't exist. And that's a very dangerous belief to hold onto.
This is a damn good point. I think that's why the archetypical good vs evil stories still have value. They're there to teach newer generations important lessons. Sort of like how fairy tales were long ago.
Spoiler Alert in this comment. I freaking hate Darkrai with a burning passion, Finally went and beat pmd2 a week ago and didn't know about the final nightmare sequence. I actually got ready to fight Darkrai AND my partner since while I was a Squirtle and he was a Pikachu, I had the Hydro Band giving me complete immunity to him. Good thing I didn't have to and Pikachu was able to wreck his army. All seriousness though, Darkrai was truly evil in a pretty smart way.
Finally, someone who gets it! But unfortunately, I understand that this game isn’t for everyone, and with many major TH-camrs having never played this game and the generals opinion that I have seen being kind of negative, mostly due to its high price. I can’t say I am too hopeful. I hate to say it, I have been asking for Sky on switch forever. But I can’t blame people who don’t want to buy it, after the sword and shield controversy, combined with the high price tag, a game that will seem short for today’s standard unless they are adding new content... well, I’m buying it and hoping for Sky remake, but I fear those of us with nostalgia won’t be enough.
Yeah, it'll probably be difficult for it to reach a new audience, what with its relevancy nowadays, plus the art style and full priced game price tag making it appear to onlookers from afar like it's some overpriced niche spinoff weird thing. Here's to hoping a new audience will be willing to give it a chance
AcousticHarmonia I’ve been recommending this series to people since forever, I know I am no the only one, is the time for fan rambling to pay off? Let’s hope so.
IGN’s review of PMDDX, in a nutshell: “this dungeon-crawler has too many dungeons in it. 6/10.” i’m guessing that’s why it’s not as popular as the main series games. which is a shame, because it’s such an amazing side-series. it’s not as popular or well-known as the main series games, sure, but i’ll still reccomend it to anyone and everyone until my face turns blue lmaooo
@@stonedimmaculate2942 that $60 price tag was a huge mistake. They should've aimed for $40. Its a remake of a $35 ds game. Sucks because the franchise is great
I am a day one pokemon mystery dungeon player and this game has made my childhood what I remember it to be if I look back, even tho I followed the main series after pmd rescue teams I have replayed it several times on emulators since then and even rebought the game for my old DS. I cannot put in words how much I am in love with the quality of life remake of a game that already is my favourite one of all time. And even tho pmd2 was great, I have to admit that I personally never got connected to the songs and story as much as I was in pmd1. Maybe it has been the guild theme that took the theme from me or the story itself, I just didn't feel the same hopelessness as I did in pmd1 where I was an outcast side by side with my best friend who was ready to devote his life to mine and help me save the world. There is by far no game that made me shed that many tears and I am crying every time I listen to the OST of that game. Thank you so much for this video and for reminding me on how important this series is not only to us as individual players but to the series of pokemon overall.
Just finished DX after having it for a while. I dusted it off and got around to playing it and although I REALLY dislike what the remakes are doing with just not adding any Pokemon beyond the Gen they are remaking it was a great game!
Man, the music is such a nostalgia trip. I love Rescue team and Explorers so freaking much. It's not super long since I replayed the main story in Explorers of Sky, and I yet again, cried like there was no tomorrow. I cry a little when watching other people play the final part too. Such an emotional roller coaster.
It's only been in more recent years that I don't cry at the ending anymore, just because I was doing a playthrough annually for so long, haha But typically even during the multiple playthroughs, it'd still have the same effect on me
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon was my childhood. It helped shape me into who I am: a friendly person who will always try to do the right thing and help people if I am able. As a kid in the Austism spectrum (Auspbergs, specifically) it really helped me understand emotions better. Though I still struggle with watching my mouth today, PMD helped me learn what empathy was at a young age, something I may have struggled to understand otherwise. While empathy isn't super difficult for someone on the spectrum to feel (Studies show autistic people are MORE empathetic than average, mostly due to working harder to understand other people's emotions), it can be hard to understand exactly what empathy is and *especially* why. PMD showed me the why. It gave me a boost to my social skills, and though I may still lack in quite a few areas, I would be much worse off without them. PMD was a gateway to a large community of people who all feel the same way, and I learned from the game that I wasn't alone when I cried, and that it was a good thing to cry.
Stories like this are really heartwarming to read, and have really opened my eyes to how much of an impact these games have been able to have. I can see how PMD could definitely help teach empathy, and it's really awesome that it's been able to help you in that way
@@AcousticHarmonia Stories like mine aren't something you hear everyday. However, I'm sure many games have stories like mine. PMD holds my story but another game, maybe Undertale or even Zelda, has another.
Explorers of Time has a special place in my heart from my childhood. I spent hours upon hours in this game and absolutely explored as much as I could. I remember the final moments where I unlocked Palkia and Dialga - the final legendaries I needed to unlock - and loved the satisfaction of tearing through the dungeons I spent so long in traversing. I hope with all my heart that mystery dungeons gets a renewed love so that another generation of kids enjoys these wonderful set of games.
There's so many dungeons to explore... After my first playthrough of doing all that I could, from then on I only played through the main plot, annually at that. Legendaries like Dialga and Palkia sure made it an interesting time exploring around though. That'd be really awesome if it'd be able to achieve that! I may have to introduce this game to my cousins kids, try to convert them into PMD nerds like me, haha
AcousticHarmonia absolutely. As a kid I couldn't truly appreciate how wonderful the story was, but it obviously worked because of how it sucked me into playing the game so much. I only mention the legendaries to indicate the dedication that fans have to exploring this game. I'm the type to do 1 utterly complete play through. After finishing the story and everything it had to offer, I had a well of satisfaction in me, and was content in my experience of it for years. So yeah, we'll see how it goes.
The ending of the first mystery dungeon was probably the first game that made me cry. After this awesome story i liked every single character and seeing them all cry brought tears to my eyes. Love that game.
Glad it helps hype you up! In my opinion, PMD2 and PSMD are the best, and PMD1 is like a tech demo in comparison. But PMD2 and PSMD are some of my favorite games of all time, so that comparison of PMD1 still makes it a masterpiece in my eyes. It lays the groundwork for the standard of the mystery dungeon series, and is an incredible game in its own right
PMD fan from Japan here. Thank you so much for this video; though I knew facts of the history explained here, it felt amazing to see so many people with a strong passion for this series. It always does. Hopes to more in the future.
Calling the endings “bittersweet” is a MASSIVE understatement. “Though the parting may hurt, the rest I leave in your hands.” “Do me one last favor, and don’t you cry!”
13:33 I was looking away for a second or two when I heard this melody in this video. Emotions instantly flushed into me and brought me to tears. This GAME, dude, it is so PERFECT
Wow, this is truly an amazing video! I kinda needed a video like this after how much some people were trying to trash on this game and series as a whole. One of the best videos about PMD: RTDX, if not the best! I’m also a fan who is really passionate of PMD and is hoping that it’ll get the love and support it deserves. Let’s hope this games succeeds and brings the series back to relevance once more! 💖✨
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! And absolutely, it'd be fantastic if this could be the spark to bring it back to being mainstream and not niche and obscure
honestly i want more mystery dungeon games that arent pokemon. as someone who's first game was darkness and played along side my brother playying time and then use experiencing sky together and then going back and me getting red and him getting blue, and i really enjoyed the 3ds games, i wouldnt be upset about a new pokemon mystery dungeon, but i want to other i.p.s brought into mystery dungeon or even a brand new mystery dungeon i.p. im definitely excited for the new shiren the wanderer mystery dungeon thats rumored for 2024.
Never before I have subscribed to a TH-cam channel so quickly! I love PMD1, PMD2, PMD4 and PMD5 so I’m going to keep supporting this series in any way I can! I even bought a plushie of Charmander and a plushie of Pikachu (both wearing their spiffy scarves) shortly before last Christmas! As for sales, PMD5 is already among the bestselling Nintendo Switch games so I think the future is bright! Edit: Grovyle is smiling at those last four words!
Ah yes, the first game that made me full on cry at the end. I feel like it will be no different this time around, granted they keep the music and story relatively the same.
I personally liked the soundtrack of PMD1 the most, followed by PMD2. While the soundtracks of the 3DS titles are gorgeous without a doubt, they somehow never stuck with me. Anyway, a PMD2 remake would be beyond awesome, since it's also my favourite PMD game. But I have a feeling that if PMDDX ends up being successful, their next move would be to introduce a brand new PMD title into the series, which I totally won't be complaining about. Either way, super excited about the future of the series!
Well you know i'm a big fan of pmd when my favourite pokemon are darkrai, grovyle and dusknoir ahaha I already bought pmdDX and i'm so hyped to play it! Pmd 1 and 2 are definitly my favourite games of all
I would consider Gates to Infinity more of an experimental phase. It was the first PMD on the 3DS and they had to remake models for all the new Pokemon. That's a lot of work. They probably served a similar role as X and Y did, to test out the system and see what could work. We could see the fruits of their labor in Super as most of their mistakes and trials were fixed. That's my opinion at least. Making video games is hard work lol
That could well be the case. And making video games is hard work indeed. I had to make one last Uni semester within 3 months in a team of 6, and lemma tell ya did I ever underestimate how stressful it would be
The series caught me with Red rescue team when I found it among my moms games she had in container of games she forgot about so I grabbed it and played on it. I think it was the very year it came out not that I actually remember how old I was at the time but still pretty young. I played as a Mudkip which I as of this day any new mystery dungeon I always played my very first run as a Mudkip as a sort of tradition of sorts. (I was mad when gates didn't have Mudkip. It broke my tradition. ) The ending made me cry only because I thought it was one of those games where there is nothing after the credits and when you load up the save file it brings you back to the final dungeon. Then when I was 10 I got explorers of sky and played the heck out of it and the ending once again made me cry. I replayed red and sky so many times because I loved the story, I still am replaying sky actually. Still enjoyed gates to infinity but hated that final boss fight, and alas the ending still made me cry. I tried to play new mystery but it was too hard for me when it came out so I got rid of it. But I think I am going to rebuy it all these years later at 21 years old and beat it for once before I buy this remake. Because I enjoy all of them.
That's awesome to hear you've had such a time with the series! It's actually been really cool to read so many comments of people recalling their time with the PMD series like this
I cant believe you are only at 1k subs, thx YT algorithm, I found myself probably one of the greatest content creators there is. That Video goes into so much Detail about PMD and I am glad there are ppl like you that are still that passionate about one of the greatest gladly not anymore forgotten Games there has ever been. Thank you for making such high quality videos, I appreciate you.
This is seriously such a well put together video and it makes me so happy to see people that love the series as much as I do. I would absolutely die to get more remakes or even a brand new addition to the series, and seeing this remake come out gives me hope. I’m gonna be getting the game in April hehe
Glad you enjoyed the video! And shnice, hope you enjoy the game when you get it in April then! I've been enjoying it so far, but university has been keeping me from binging the game like I know I would otherwise
One of the most unique mystery dungeon mechanics that made it feel special and was a real game changer was cut with psmd and also wasnt in the remaster of the og(which is why i hated to play it) Regular attacks. They were crucial to traverse Dungeons when youre in the endgame. I mean the thing about being a pokemon is dealing with things in another way and just hitting enemys with a slap without using attacks seems like a thing you should be able to do if you want
Today I watch this video for the first time. every minute make me nostalgic. i watch the whole video and need to say im 22 today, my first game for my first nintendo ds was explorers of the darkness. then i played rescue team blue next and sky again, today i made 100% of pmd rescue team dx, i love it. i think i find this video 2 years later cause i research everything on youtube, pmd was all of my time my favorite part and there are so many new functions from titles in the past what they put in one whole game, i know it was only a remake, but i enjoy every second til the end and love it. i hope one day this journey makes a new version after dx. *- i would buy it at the first day
Haha, I was only really able to truly appreciate the soundtrack years after first playing it as a kid. I started respecting it way more once I got into the world of remixes, and have been for a long time now. The best remixes I'd argue are made by a remixer I won't name, as they deleted their content and wanted to cut ties linking them to their work. I've reuploaded them under the name of "unnamed remixer", and I think internet video archive reuploaded them too, but the original videos with full credit to the one who wanted not to be linked to their work... If you ever get the chance, I'd recommend checking out their "Through the Sea of Time" and "Don't Ever Forget" on this or that channel if you ever get the chance, it's breathtaking stuff
PSMD was the first game I could ever remember that actually shook me to my very core, a feeling that was very hard to get out of me ever since. I want this series to continue, perhaps in an entirely new game. That being said, I would argue that Gates to Infinity’s story rivals that of Super, but that’s my personal belief.
Gates had a lot of flaws with it's story and removed a lot of things that made the other games great, but you could still tell they put effort into it and it was still a much better story than the main series games.
AcoustucHarmonia I think the original intention of Gates was to focus a lot more on characters rather than story. Due to the time limitations of a game's development cycle, it's very difficult to write a good story for a video game *with* well-developed characters, so a lot of plot-heavy games focus primarily on one or the other. Another good example of a series with a large "characters VS story" division (albeit to a much more extreme degree) is Fire Emblem, of all things--the early games in the franchise, especially the fourth game, are notable for having really good stories, but relatively little character development. (The NES games get away with this because they're NES games, limited cartridge space, blah blah blah, but the SNES games don't have this excuse--rather, most of the characters have little development because the overarching plot is more important.) Even the main characters have very little...character, and (with the exception of Sigurd and maybe Leif) are essentially just kind of there to make the plot move along and use the magical sword to kill the dragon at the end. The post-FE6 games improve character development a little bit via supports, but it wasn't until the ninth game that we got a truly character-centric Fire Emblem game. Not only did they give us an actually interesting protagonist in Ike (who the game kind-of-sort-of implies to have Asperger's/ high-functioning autism, among the myriad other points of *actual protagonist development.*), but also individualized every single character, not just in supports but also via the use of dynamic dialogue (essentially, depending on who lives and dies, the game's in-story dialogue is completely altered. Some of the "X died" dialogue is totally heartbreaking.) so that you care about every single person in the game. (Except Makalov. Fuck Makalov, that prick can go die in a hole.) Your units were no longer just bundles of stats, but actual people who you gave a shit about. Aaaaand it worked. I shamelessly soft-resetted for hours in order to keep everyone alive. Even Makalov, if only so I could watch Marcia chew him out. Unfortunately, the amount of time and money spent writing all those characters led to the game having a pretty basic, albeit well-written plot (slightly better than FE1's) and very poor graphics. In spite of this, though, it's considered one of the best games in the series by a lot of FE fans (and is a fan-favorite among GameCube collectors both due to this and it's rarity) who play it purely because of its characters. (Even IGN couldn't taint its legacy with a shitty review--it has an 8.7/10 on their site, despite them being notorious for review-bombing pretty much any game with a semblance of difficulty around that time.) Gates...*tried* to pull off something similar. Unfortunately, it did a pretty shoddy job of it--the characters are only marginally better than those in Sky (Gates's case is not helped by Sky's Special Episodes, which gave much-needed development from the characters we already knew from the main story.), and there aren't that many non-primary characters with much development worth mentioning. Additionally, you know how I said FE9's plot was simple? Yeah...that was *by Fire Emblem standards.* Things get pretty crazy in that series. 9's still got a decent amount of complexity to it, and almost everything in the plot makes sense (barring a few loose ends that were meant to lead into FE10, but ultimately cut.). It's also fairly well-written, with quite a bit of world-building. It also had an entire sequel to finish telling us whatever FE9 didn't have the runtime to explain. The same cannot be said for the plot of GTI. GTI really loves to pull things out of its ass, use them once or twice, and then never mention it again. Frisms, for instance, were an interesting idea. A way of recording one's own voice so it can be heard again just once? Cool! What will they do with that? Keldeo uses it exactly once to send a message. That's basically all they do. The partner's backstory? They've always been alone, but wished for friends...I wonder what sort of upbringing they had and what their backstory is! Oh wait, it's never mentioned again. Man, these Entercards sure do seem cool. I wonder who invented than, and what their history is! ...It's never really explained. Man, this Kyurem guy sure does hate the world. I wonder what caused him to feel that way...Never explained. How exactly did Munna and company eliminate all the other humans? You guessed it--it's never really explained. GTI tries to be a character-focused story, but because of the limitations of its formula it ends up being a game with an excuse plot and a handful of decently-written characters who aren't strong enough to carry the whole game on their own. PMD just isn't made to be especially character-driven, as GTI proves. That's not to say it can't have good characters (see PMD2, which has...pretty much the entire frickin', guild in Sky), but it shouldn't be made the selling point of the game. PMD is built around the idea of "story first, characters second," and given the nature of Pokemon (namely, the absurd roster size) it's simply not feasible to give *every 'mon* a well-written character. The only reason Sky's characters were so good was because the groundwork was already set by Time and Darkness, and all that really had to be done was the postgame and Special Episodes. In essence: Gates flopped because it sacrificed everything for characters without thinking about what PMD is actually about.
I realize that the games are very different from the rest in the series, but I think Blazing, Stormy, and Light Adventure Squad are definitely worth a mention in the "Overconfidence" section of PMD History. They were Japanese only games on WiiWare that sold horribly even in Japan, in part because the way things were done in those games was so vastly different from the rest. If you have the time to at least attempt to get through the games, they are very short. I'd suggest using Google Translate's Mobile app image recognition to translate menu options and moves in order to figure out what they do, as the story is really not great. You can use the app to translate some dialogue, but it gets a lot of things wrong and gets very tedious to do that for every text box.
It could have been included in that section, that's a good point. I've never actually tried them out before, but maybe should one day so I can actually be armed with a complete view of Mystery Dungeon.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was something important for me to throw together, thoughts I've wanted to express for a long time, so positive reception like this really helps inspire me
This has just become my first video to pass 10k views! Thank you all so much for giving me a chance by watching this video, it's truly an honor that so many have taken time to see this! I appreciate all the wholesome comments, it's been really cool to read about everyone's experiences and memories with PMD. I'm trying to properly read and respond to as many as possible, but apologize if I miss yours.
The reusage of tunes or measures is called a Leitmotif. It's actually a pretty smart thing to do in games such as these, because a subtle use of leitmotif can key you into certain moods, or remind you of situations the leitmotif was played for, or compare and contrast others. For example, one of the most used in PMD2 (Explorers), the Time theme, is first present in the Time Gear song (also known as Lights over Fogbound Lake), but is also present in Through the Sea of Time, and comes to a head in Temporal Tower and Dialga's Fight to the Finish. In those instances, the reusage of that leitmotif is used in TT and DFttF to signify two things: what the main focus is (fighting to stop time from ceasing), and to remind you of WHY you fight (the beautiful sights at the top of the lake, the flight over the sea - both things done with your Partner). The PMD series is full of leitmotifs, showing the love and attention that went into the audio. It's very good at evoking memories because it makes these simple tunes a core part of the situations going into them and situations moving forward with associations.
Yeah, I don't know any of the terms because I've never learned any music apart from figuring out how to read sheet music on guitar or learning music using synthesia for piano, my university restricts music classes to bachelor of music students sadly...
I am an avid Mystery Dungeon fan and seeing the first game come to the switch made my heart soar! I, like you, have played every single one and I hold Sky and Super in the highest esteem. I was a Pikachu in Sky (with the name of Liz), my partner was a male Piplup named Shaun and our team was 'Team Light'. Greatest adventure I ever experienced. And yes, the music ALWAYS makes me cry. 😭💔 The first time I played through "the future' part, I was genuinely scared as a player. I was sick to my stomach because it was so depressing. I really wanted out and wanted to find a way to turn things around. Then later when your character HAD to disappear?! Darn it! Cue the water works! 😭😭😭💔And then the amount of twists that followed in PART 2 of the game! Oh my gosh! 😱😭 I got to tell you: it partly shaped my future career. You know what I am now? I, am an Author and PMD inspired elements of my work 😊
Wow, that's actually really awesome to hear that it helped influence you in that way! PMD1 was my first Pokemon game at all, and played PMD2 soonish after, and it made for one of the most insane storytelling experiences I had as a kid, and really shook me to my core. I used to play through PMD2 on an annual basis for several years, and cry at the end everytime, haha. Games like these have also led to me studying game design in university, so I'll see where that takes me I suppose. What sort of stuff do you write if you don't mind me asking?
@@AcousticHarmonia fantasy. I write fantasy style in a contemporary setting. The series I wrote is called "Angel's Blade" (which can be found on Amazon). It is a about a half-angel named Liz Azzimagica. She lost her parents in a fire at age two, was saved by Michael the Archangel, was taken in by her loving uncle and at age 14, discovered she had wings grow in. She then gained a sword that same night: a marble patterned sword that allowed her to control the elements. In her case: water and wind. Liz's friend Lux, a half-angel himself, helped her learn to control and use these powers. And by age 17, she decided to become a hero. The rest of the plot entails how she fights who she perceives as the big threat. But much like our beloved PMD, there is always a twist. Want to know more? I have 3 books out: "Angel's Blade" "Angel's Blade: Darklight" "Angel's Blade: Redemption" Am writing more in the future. 😊
@@AcousticHarmonia thank you 😊my best friend is also writing a book that will be called "The Realms". His is more Sci-fi oriented with fantasy elements and one day, our two series will crossover. But till then: we'll just keep perusing our passion. 😊
I completely gave up on the Pokémon main series at Gen 4. I never bothered to even look at game footage for Black White, X Y, Sun Moon or Sword Shield. I am that detached to that series. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon is a completely different matter. These games have given me a sense of engagement with the story and the world that no mainline Pokémon game could ever dream of doing. My partner, the villagers, the villains, they weren't just a cute picture with battle stats like in the main series. Mystery Dungeon made them actual characters to relate to. Going back to this world and being able to share it now will be a treat. Can't wait to see how Mach (my main character) will handle himself on the Switch.
Glad that Mystery Dungeon has been able to really engage you as well! Hoping that Mach will have an awesome adventure in the coming months After Gen 4, I actually really engaged with Black/White, I actually got the name Harmonia from arguably the main character of those games, N Harmonia. It actually gets pretty deep, especially with the way it tells his story. After Gen 5 though, it is mostly the same kinda main series Pokemon thing, appealing for those who enjoy the gameplay and music, like I still do, but not a lot to offer in terms of story though typically
1 year after this video current reported sales are at 1.6 million units making it the third best selling mystery dungeon game. While not reaching the near 6 million sales of rescue team or explorers its still noteworthy and its my belief we'll get one more test of the series performance before we finally get the new title we all want
My personal rankings of the games 4: Super. I do agree with most of your points on why this arguably saved the series, but for me personally, Serene Village went on way too long and the choice to completely abandon most of the characters from there was just odd (after the midway point, Goomy, Pancham, Shelmet, and Deerling get maybe 10 more lines for the rest of the game, including the postgame). If they cut out a little bit of the end of Serene Village, or somehow found a way to make most of the characters not be thrown away halfway through then it would probably be in the top 2 for me lol. Also the second half is way too fast paced once the main story really starts. After a certain Revelation, the rest of the story is blink and you’ll miss it. I’ve always wanted to like this game (it’s even where my profile picture comes from), but after 3 playthroughs, I just simply can’t see what everyone else does in this game. Still, I will say this is by no means a bad game, just one that I personally have too many problems with to truly enjoy. 3: Rescue Team. This is a great starting point for the series, but compared to the later games, it isn’t quite as good, and hasn’t aged that well (any yellow Pokémon looks terrible). The remake looks like it could solve most of these problems though, and depending on how good the remixed songs are, could put the remake at #2. 2: Gates. This is a love-it or hate-it game. You either love the story or hate it. Based on its placement you can guess where I fall under it. For me moments like the major plot twist and arguably the most shocking moment in the whole franchise (that spoilery ice beam scene with Kyurem absolutely left me stunned) just worked for me. Also the soundtrack is flat out perfect. Also Munna might be my single favorite character in the series. 1: Explorers. Duh. There isn’t really anything I can add that hasn’t been said before. This is the perfect PMD game. Amazing video by the way!
Valid points about Super's characters and fast paced story after the twist, to the point that it can be pretty difficult to follow what's even happening a lot of the time. It stood out the most for me though through its portrayal of the partner, which was really incredibly done. Rescue team definitely had its fair share of problems, my biggest one being the relationship between the player and the partner felt kinda forced. "I just met you, have this house, we're besties now". But it did help lay the foundations for the standards of the series going forward, so it's a great way to start the series, both from a developing perspective and a player experience perspective. My biggest problem with Gates was I found the story largely unmemorable, I say that because I actually don't remember most of it, and sometime last year looked up a synopsis and was like "oh yeah, that's what happened. Sounds kinda familiar...?". I had a pretty negative opinion of it for a long time, but over the past couple years I've been listening back to the soundtrack, and have really thought "how did I not pay this much attention to the music before...? This is genuinely masterful". Like I said, I don't remember a lot of Gates, so I look forward to the day when I get the chance to hop back into it with a fresh perspective. PMD2 was an incredible experience. I dunno if I'd call it perfect, but it's pretty darn close. Like I really enjoyed the initial main storyline of it, because it told a story with no truly evil characters, nobody is beyond redemption, and everyone has believable motivations behind their actions, it was spectacular. The postgame plot though I had some problems with, mostly Darkrai. Because up to this point there were no characters evil for the sake of being evil, whereas he was like "aha! I wanted a world of darkness! Isn't that spicy?!" His fate at the end of it was very well done though, pretty poetic in a way. But I think the thing that holds it back from being perfect in my eyes is Darkrai is just evil because they needed somebody evil for the plot. To be fair, it's still honestly my favorite game just in general
AcousticHarmonia Kinda spoilers ahead for anyone reading this comment chain for some reason. Super, for me is a game that I’ve always wanted to like, but haven’t really been able to. I will say that the partner is by far the best out of all four games, and I’ve always been a huge fan of pretty much everything after the Yvetal fight (which itself is just an incredibly annoying boss) up until Dark Matter is defeated. I even love the concept of the ending, and see it as an amazing idea for a twist ending, but i still don’t really understand why it played out as it did (although it could be intentional, since I’m sure the other partners also thought that the player’s reasons for having to leave didn’t make sense either). Also I hate how underused most of the Serene Village characters other than Nuzleaf and Espurr are after the midway point, since they’re barely seen again until the postgame, where they flat out aren’t characters anymore. I honestly would’ve loved the idea of that part of the game if it were either a little shorter, or if the characters weren’t thrown away so quickly.
Regular B Spoilers for GTI ahead I love Gates mainly for it’s story and soundtrack. I’d actually argue that the story is almost as good as Explorers (the stories would absolutely be equally as good if Special Episode 5 didn’t exist). It also had some incredibly shocking, yet well done moments. The two big examples are Munna’s betrayal, which I’d say is the best betrayal in the series, as well as Hydreigon being shattered by Kyurem. That moment left me absolutely stunned the first time I saw it, and I’m still surprised it’s in an official Pokemon game. Also, the soundtrack is absolutely incredible, having my favorite piece of music in any game (One Last Look at Paradise), as well as a ton of really strong songs. For me, GTI’s top 10 songs rank among the strongest in the series, and has very few duds compared to other games. (RT/RTDX has Tiny Woods and most of the Friend Area music. Explorers has the awful remix of Defy the Legends and Aegis Cave. Super has a lot of just boring cutscene music. Gates doesn’t have any major duds.) I’ll admit that the gameplay was bad, with way too many corridors and way too few starters (who range from obscenely overpowered like Axew to fairly weak like Snivy) but it had a ton of ideas that were expanded on for Super and RTDX. The main one that comes to mind is the upgradable moves, which is a cool concept that was held back by being a part of Gates’s gameplay. Overall Gates has problems, and it’s not for everyone, even moreso than other PMD games, but it’s one that I love.
@@Cdv3_ yeah the major flaw of it was the Gameplay. Could be actually a Pokemon game that actually could base the character outside the screen IE you. (4th wall). Not only that out of all the partner in the series gates literally care about the MC so much that he/She stood up in front of Kyrem while almost getting stomped to death and willingly give you up because they knew you had another life in the human world. Explorers is a pass here because there's literally nothing to return to. Rescue team you'll eventually go back due from the quote 'I want to stay longer..' and super straight up did the opposite of the 3.
I am not afraid to say that PMD2 made me cry 15:49 is where it REALLY hit. And I will never be afraid to say it It is the BEST game I've ever played, and it will forever stay that way. The music, the art, the characters, the plot. Masterpiece. And its my absolute WISH that they remake it. It will forever be one of the best days of my life. And I want it to happen, even if its way off in the future. But seeing PMD DX happen, I can only hope that 7 year old me, will show up and play this beautiful game all over again. I remember seeing commercials for PMD EOS and being hyped as shit for it, but while EOS may be the definitive edition, EOT (the one i played first, when i was 7-8) will forever hold the title of the best game for me.
Honestly, when Gates and Super came out, I just didn't like the graphics. I was really not a fan of the 3D. But I do wish I had played Super. Maybe it's still available on the 3DS eshop.
I have a love-hate relationship with gates. It's probably still pretty good as a game, just not in comparison to the other PMD games. The story is kinda eh to me, but not straight up bad eh, but the kind where you can tell they genuinely tried, but didn't quite hit their mark. Music is just as incredible as always, but I only really realized that within the last few years. Super though I absolutely fell in love with, to the point that I was debating in my head for close to a year whether I liked Super or Sky better, and eventually settled on Sky has better story, not by a lot though, Sky developing more characters and a greater world, Super developing a better partner and relationship, and Super has way better music, because every dungeon theme is a jammer
I played the story in super and then lost motivation after that even though I know there's a lot of post-game content in it. In gates, I stumbled across the "Gilded Hall Inner Chamber" (Tyrian Maze Inner Chamber) and that was the best most exciting dungeon, when I didn't even know it had legendaries there.
@@roojackaroo8517 I beat it the first time with item spamming and wand abuse essentially. Second time playing it a couple years later it was so much easier and I didn't have to do any of that
@@AcousticHarmonia mystery dungeon, includinf super are in my eyes,better than the main series So happy that they are giving it another chance, if i buy a switch,it will be for this game
Ahhh the memories... pmd red rescue and explorers of sky brings back sooo much nostalgia.. the story, the gameplay, surprise monster houses, the music, the art... my god these games had it all. Every once in a while I think about Pmd and Pikmin and wonder why these games never get talked about. Literally hidden gems. Even my friends who played pmd once said the game left an emotional mark in them. I hope the remake reignites the flame to keep the series going ☺️❤️❤️
17 minutes in and I cried four times in a row. 😭👌 But I have to disagree with Gates to Infinity. The mainline story is the second best, right after explorers, IMO. Gates has bigger story-events than Rescue Team and because of its controversy, it's more unique than PSMD. As you said, PSMD has the same structure as Explorers, only in another story. That's why PSMD is the worst of them all story-wise. Yeah, the OST is great and the plot-twist isn't that bad, but the game is based on coping old structures and nostalgia, which makes not only PSMD itself less unique, but also explorers, because they're comparable. Also PSMD's main-story ending is the only one, where I didn't get emotional at all, because the fact that the partner is Mew, wasn't only predictable, but way too farfetched. What wasn't predictable is the announcement of Rescue Team DX. Red Rescue Team was the last Pokémon game I've played, before I took a break from Pokémon in general in 2006/2007. I think that's why Gen3 overall is my favorite Generation. However, because of hard times and depressions in 2012, I found my old DS and played it again. Then I found out that there's another PMD, including new Pokémon from Gen4, which was Explorers of Sky. I bought it on Amazon and it was literally the first unknown Pokémon-game I've played since the break I had and my mind and feelings were blown away by its story. Also, the way PMD2 introduced the newer Gen4 Pokémon to me was more charming than the mainline series could ever do. If I would have played Diamond/Perl at first, instead of PMD2, I would care less about the Gen4 Pokémon, because in PMD, they're not only Pokémon with types, abilities and moves, they were personalities with emotions and background-stories. I can't wait for PMD RT DX and I can imagine that there could be new never told stories for some characters in the post-game. But I don't get my hopes too high. Even if it's just the remade PMD1, I'm still glad that they don't give up on PMD that easily. ❤️ Thank you so much for making this video. 😊
My opinions on Gates can't be super valid, because when I consider it unmemorable, I actually genuinely don't remember it. I really didn't like it at all when I first played it on release. But the last few years I've been listening back to the soundtrack, and it really got me thinking "wow, this soundtrack is still the PMD level of quality. Maybe I should have payed more attention". It was like a year ago ish I read a synopsis of the plot to refresh my memory, vaguely remembered some. I still prefer the stories of the other PMD games, and have several problems with Gates, but I can tell they really tried with the story, that there was still plenty of heart and soul poured into it, and that they wanted to try something different, which is commendable. I was planning on doing a playthrough series of all PMD games in order, including Gates so I can actually look at it in this new way I view it rather than my first impressions from years ago. But this remake messes with those plans for what kind of series that'd be, haha. But one day I do want to replay Gates, actually viewing it with respect. Thank you for sharing your opinions, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@AcousticHarmonia Thank you again for answering, I would've never expect it that quickly. And I'm looking forward to your playthrough series. 😊 What makes Gates even more important to me is the fact, that I can identify myself with characters like Gurdurr and Virizion at the beginning, since I've lost my trust in the world, during a bigger depression. This game literally gave me back my hopes to live again. I guess this is what Gates makes so special for me. And I was surprised how they put the actual situation of the real human world into the game. Also, the plot-twist with Munna was the most unexpected and the moment Kyurem literally killed Hydreigon in a cut-scene, is the most shocking thing I've seen in a Pokémon game. 👌
gates to infinity was my first pokemon game. and it still stands out has my favorite PMD. with explorers 2ed. never played rescue team. and super will always be my least favorite PMD game. as its hell to play.
@@Gagafreak92 It sure sounds like it was able to have a deep personal impact then. Mystery Dungeon is honestly the series that I see as most able to do that, to be able to help people and make them feel better off, so hearing a very drastic example like that is really inspiring. The plot had some really unique ideas going for it, with the human world reminding me of 4th wall breaking story integration similar to Undertale or Bravely Default/Second. I remember being a bit shooketh about some of the twists of the plot, but honestly don't remember a whole lot else. But I do look forward to when the day comes around I can hop into it with a fresh perspective.
@@lilybelden9405 Gates was also my very first game on my first 3DS as birthday present from my parents. The 3DS itself even reminds me a bit of Kyurem, design-wise. I'd say Gates, Rescue Team and Explorers aren't comparable to each other, Rescue Team was the very first, to try out new mechanics and story-elements that never happened that way in a Pokémon game before, Explorers has the theme of sacrifice and Gates has the theme of hope. They're all individually beautiful in their own way. Super on the other hand seemed to be only a fan-service to get more people excited. Unlike Explorers and Gates, the character-development is an empty gap in Super.
hey i really like the way you actually give us plenty of time to listen to the ost when you're talking about it. I hate when i'm watching a video that comments on the ost only to play like 5 seconds of the song.
Glad you like that! Sometimes I worry about things playing too long or if people lose interest because I stopped talking for x amount of time, but it's like, I gotta let it soak up enough time to express what's so freaking amazin' about the music!
@@AcousticHarmonia that's what im saying! it's always awful when they start talking over it immediately and i'm just sitting there trying to hear the drowned out music.
Being one of the few game series that has actually made me cry, the pmd series has always been my favourite. I only became a Pokemon fan a few years ago and thus also came late to the whole pmd craze. My first pmd game was PSMD, and it was (and still is) the best game I've ever played. It being my first pmd game, I had nothing to compare it to, so I saw little to no flaws. Good story, memorable characters, amazing music. I enjoyed everything about it so much. And it's also the main reason I've met some of my best online friends, so I really owe a lot to it. Even my second pmd game, which was GtI, I absolutely loved. I find that game to do the best job at giving personality to side characters, from the games I've played. It's the main reason I like Dunsparce. While the partner may have been bland, at least I was able to relate to other characters. Sure, there were quite a few flaws, but every game has those. No game is perfect. And that's something we just have to accept. GtI may not be as good as the others, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game. I've only been able to play PMD2 a year ago and only once, when a friend lend my his copy. And that game probably hit me the hardest. It has some of the most emotional songs imo. Just hearing the first notes of Don't Ever Forget or Memories Returned already brings tears to my eyes. I would love to be able to play it again some day. PMD1 is the only game I haven't been able to play yet, outside of the demo of the remake. And I have high hopes for it. I really hope it does well and maybe give Spike Chunsoft the idea to remake PMD2 as well or maybe make a while new pmd game. Who knows. We can only hope...
Nice that Super was that meaningful to you! A lot of people like to really tear it apart, and say that it can't compare to the other games in the series. Gates I feel wasn't a bad game, but just hit a few bumps along the way in terms of its story, several things could have been executed much better, but it's obvious the developers still put a lot of passion into it and really just wanted to try out something different at the end of the day. One day I'll hop back into that title with a fresh perspective PMD1 is a really good game, but doesn't exactly compare to 2 and Super. It still has a really good story overall, but suffers from problems such as a partner that feels forced onto you rather than actually building a bond. In my opinion, comparing PMD1 to 2 and Super (story wise), if those two are a 10, then PMD1 is about a 5.5/10, which sounds bad, but considering how incredible I believe Super and 2 to be, that's honestly still really high praise. PMD1 is basically just what started the Mystery Dungeon system, so later titles were able to push it much further
OMG! I physically awed at the 3d Eevee model/emotion box! If I ever get a Switch and this game, I want Eevee in some form, being me, or my partner! Also, I agree, the next one they make would probably be Time/Darkness/Sky! For Gates to Infinity, you also couldn't choose a gender for neither you or your partner. Your gender being a bit more ambiguous, while your partner was always male. The choice was taken away as to what kind of team you wanted, other than that I liked it! Also, SPMD might've been the end for what we currently know as PMD. That doesn't mean something new can't start! The franchise can be reborn! With PMD 1 and 2 being tests before new stuff is brought in! It gives Spike Chunsoft more time to flesh things out for a brand new game!
You're right, the portrait models are so good! I do emote art for my channel, a lot of which I draw based off of PMD, and I know I'm gonna have to draw those portraits digitally, perfect emotes Oh really, that's part of Gates? I actually didn't know, haha. That game really didn't stand out to me in any way when I played it on release, but over the past two years listening back to the music has had me think "wow, this was probably way better than I thought it was...". I've wanted to do a complete series on PMD on the channel, PMD1-4, giving Gates a new proper chance, but now this release messes with those plans, especially if a PMD2 remake is coming, can't get ahead of myself, haha PMD1DX honestly feels like a breath of fresh air and trying to start the series anew in a way, while recapturing what made the past titles so good. From what I played of the demo (twice lul), it feels like the features and content updates you'd expect of a PMD5, except it's a remake. (I just wish there were more starters) I really like all the additions they made! It's like PSMD mechanics, plus a lot more, from what I can tell. Dream course of events: This game releases, PMD2DX releases, PMD5 releases.
@@AcousticHarmonia Apologies for the late reply, I was replaying Blue rescue team! I saw a couple of you thumbnails for those, that's really neat! Eeeeyup! It turned a lot of players off GTI because of that issue! GTI was fine, I didn't play it nearly as much as Sky, and it was a while ago that I last played it so I can't remember too much of my opinion on it. The music has always been great! I love just sitting and listening to the music! It's funny, some of the dungeon music from GTI made it into SPMD! I recognized it immediately! Hmm, I see! I say do what you want! If you wanna do something now with PMD, why wait? Not to be dark, but you never know when you'll kick the bucket and be led by a Dusknoir to the spirit world! Yes, more starters would be nice, but you can only have so many when you limit yourself to gen 3 and down hee hee! I'm not a fan of the speech bubble above the heads when attacking, I hope there's a way to turn that off, because frankly that kinda takes me outta the game...And oh yay, pushing is back....But other than that I'm stoked! Forget about Sword and Shield, if I ever get a Switch, I want this first!
@@CatherineUmbreon96 I don't really want to do a complete PMD series right now because I figure I can just cover the remakes for that "slot" of that game in the series. Trying to manage time as best I can considering my current game queue is about 1 year long, so if I add something to my list of playthroughs to do on this channel, I'll get to it a year from now. If you ever do get a switch, there's plenty other awesome games as well, but I could rant about that all day long
The term you're looking for when you say "reuses tunes" is "motif". Both PMD2 and PSMD use two motifs that eventually come together in the final boss theme (in PMD2 the motifs are Time and Exploration - the latter of which is heard first in the title theme - in PSMD the motifs are the Partner's theme and the Tree of Life theme)
Yeah sorry, I claim to be a musical nerd but I've never actually taken real classes and just self teach myself guitar and piano here and there at home (my university keeps denying me music classes because they're reserved for bachelor of music students sadly...) So I know very few terms, but I do know when I really like what music does, haha
This was the one game I've never really put down, even to this day I'm still working on my Team Wolf Fang animation series that loosely fallows PMD rescue team! I'm super hyped
When the promo anime was shown I thought that it was a completely new series for a Pokémon tv spin-off. The games are brilliant but a complete anime show would be the cherry on top :)
@@AUAB2 That would've been really awesome, especially if the show had improvements to things like the voice acting compared to the few episodes we got (the voice acting is honestly fine, it's moreso the voices themselves I mostly didn't like...)
Hey everybody what was everybody's starting Adventure, starter pokemon and partner? I luv to read everyones stories, I'll go first! My adventure began in Mystery Dungeon explorers of darkness I transformed into a Skitty alongside my partner was Burch the Treecko.
That's a pretty neato comment idea! PMD1 was my first Pokemon game I ever played, and I've done so many playthroughs it's hard to remember the first. I think I was a Squirtle, with a partner of Chikorita, maybe? My next game was Explorers of Time, where I think I might've been Squirtle again? But my partner was for sure a Treeko, which wound up being fitting because of the Grovyle plot
A skitty, with a treeko partner named Blaze. Then I played BRT and I was a Cubone, with the same treeko partner. Finally I played super, and I was a Squirtle, with, of course, the same partner
Gates was my first PMD game because I (sadly) never got to own a DS and I honestly only bought it out of curiosity to test out the 3DS. Never heard of the others before. I was a Pikachu with Oshawott being my partner. The game blew me away completely. The experience is almost surreal because of how great it was. I'm just so glad I was home alone when I finished it so nobody heard my sobbing xD It was my gateway (pun intended :D) into this amazing series and I am forever grateful for it.
I grew up with blue rescue team. And when I saw this is the pokemon E3. It brung my back to when I first played it. Just full of nostalgia running through me and I really want to play it right away when I get a nintendo switch.
Thank you so much. I agree with pretty much everything in the video. Explorers of Sky is actually one of my favorite games of all time. I love the series and really thought it was over after Super Mystery Dungeon. I'm about to try this new one out. Extremely excited.
Idk if this continues yet, only being 13 mins in, but I appreciate that you said that there are 3 main characters and then move to a seen that directly shows who you are referring to and yet kept a major part of the plot a mystery through great editing.
if you haven't played pmd2 and haven't got to the explorers segment of the video yet please stop watching and go play the game first, it's the kind of game you really have to play blind
@@kellenoconnor4396 I do not. I don't even get into the really deep parts of the main story. The most revealing thing I talk about is mentioning the world of the future, as my point to talk about how dark the game gets
Explorers and Super were very impactful in my life and even helped me become who I am today. Explorers was the very first Mystery Dungeon game I ever played (specifically Explorers Of Time) and it inspired me to want to try my hand a making my own Pokémon content like I saw so many others doing at the time. I originally tried making a comic, but decided to make a TH-cam series of it instead as I didn't know how to properly lay out the pages. Still, I always maintained this desire to make my own Pokémon comic one day and felt that Mystery Dungeon would be a perfect game to base my comic on. It wouldn't be until I finally played Super, however, that this dream would come true. I had gotten Super around the time of its release, but hadn't really touched the game for whatever reason until about 3 years ago. I was going through an extremely difficult time in my life and was in a deep depress, having to literally fight with myself to not end my own life. I desperately needed a distraction and decided to pick up my Super Mystery Dungeon game as I had been wanting to finally play it and thought that exploring a new part of the Mystery Dungeon universe, a world that filled me with so much joy and wonder, would be fun. I ended up really bonding with the characters, particular Mr. Nuzleaf and the partner, and their stories not only made me feel better, but quite literally saved my life. They endured so much pain and suffering in the game yet managed to find a happy ending and never lost hope, even when faced with the end of the world. I was so inspired by the characters and the story that I began drawing scenes from the game that I felt could have used a bit more to them and posted them on my DA account. To my surprise, a lot of people really loved my ideas and some even expressed an desire to see me make a comic about the game with my own ideas and twists. I was barely noticed on DA before, but was suddenly getting so much support and love for sharing my ideas and even encouraged to finally fulfill a childhood dream of mine. I finally decided that I would try to make the comic I had dreamed of ever since I played Explorers and it really changed my life. I am still depressed and life can be a struggle for me, but the Mystery Dungeon series has given me so much hope and the strength to keep living my life. It's an important series to me and I hope that it will finally flourish once again and capture the hearts of many, maybe even save another life with its incredible story and characters.
I'm sorry to hear that those are feelings you had to content with, but glad that PSMD was able to help you in that way. Thank you for taking the time to share that
I really wish people didn’t hate Gates to Infinity so much. I absolutely adore that game. I think the problem is that people treat it like a sequel which is fair, but they don’t treat it like it’s own game. If the other mystery dungeon games didn’t exist, would gates to infinity still be bad? I say no. This also may be slightly biased, gates to infinity was my first PMd
You talked a lot about your personal emotional aspects of the series; mainly the story and music. That's what most do. I wish you had spent a little more time talking about the gameplay and the decline of such in subsequent entries. How PMD1 had Friendareas and let you play as any Pokemon even in Town after the Story. The incredibly complex postgame structure would be another point. And how much freedom you had as a player to break the game with powerful abilities that would not return after PMD2, because it's considered too complex or unbalanced nowadays. Not to mention the 99 floor Dungeons and integration of every single legedary to date in a unique way. PMD2 added a Player character driven postgame and sky the episodes. But it lost friend areas and the ability to play as any Pokemon you want in Town. Legendaries were just scattered on random dungeons as long as you had an obsucre item in your inventory. Gates and Super got rid of the standard attack and focused on the usual attacks with limited PP. As a subsequent measure, dungeons got a lot smaller, exploring was toned down and combat was the new focus. You did hit harder but so did the enemy, and thus 1-Hit-Ko's became the norm. That's why the games ended up with you using waaay more revive seeds than in previous games (also the reason they added mini-reviver seeds). Also the camera was way too close to make anything out in a dungeon. And Super had every Pokemon in it yes, but for one made it impossible to have multiple Pokemon of the same species, and also didn't let you Nickname them anymore. And the biggest sin might be that they put a cooldown on a lot of Pokémon so you couldn't use them anytime you want, even post-game. Now Imagine your favourite Pokemon isn't a Starter. That's why the remake of PMD1 is so important to me. I'm incredibly excited to see PMD continue, but also incredibly afraid that they fuck it up with the problems they introduced in the recent games. From the Demo I can tell that they got rid of the standard attack again and that IQ got replaced with other system. I'm really not a fan of this, but they did introduce something to counteract the single biggest flaw of PMD1&2, that leveling was a teadious task. Now the Makhuita Dojo seems to take care of this with the new Tickets.
That's definitely an interesting take on it. I typically don't focus on the gameplay a whole lot when it comes to PMD games, with them in my view existing almost completely for the story and music. The gameplay never especially hooked me in, and I'm usually playing through PMD games just to experience the story and music again, haha And I actually had no idea that Super still made Pokemon unavailable from time to time during the postgame, because I saw how many missions there were in postgame and were like "nope, not happening"
While I agree with you on Blue's postgame and its very powerful integration of legendaries inside dungeons with character and personality (which is one of the reasons Blue is still the best game for me to date), I can't let you say that Super's gameplay is inferior or dumb man! Actually Super's is a huge improvement. It is the mystery dungeon game that is the most faithful to it's origins: Shiren the Wanderer, the first mystery dungeon. This is where wands and insane difficulty come from, where actually dying was part of the gameplay, as you unlocked new parts of the story by dying. Gameplay in Super is entirely focused on items. They got rid of the A Attack to force you to use moves, not only because they level up the more you use them but also to make you think about how to properly carry and use elixirs (or I don't know if you rather call them ether in English? I play in French). Same for hunger. And same for wands: ennemies do great damage and have large amounts of HP to force you to rely on HP increasing Oran Berries and possibilities offered by wands; you are rarely supposed to spam ennemies with moves and rely on reviver seeds, else you'll better have a bag full of reviver seeds; you have to use your items strategically! Also in Super they did a ton of not-immediately-noticeable additions that really made me think that they put a particular attention to this game: sometimes you'll see ennemies stay in a room to attack you from a distance the moment you step inside: you can only counter this by using a wand that makes you warp etc; sometimes ennemies form little teams that always stay together to submerge you with powerful moves at sight, I even noticed what looked like a mom and her child, something like a Rhydon that stayed with a Rhyhorn. You may even have noticed a herd of Ledyba, 4 ones sleeping on a square next to each other! All those tiny additions among others really showed to me that they tried hard to make meaningful and challenging dungeons. I agree with you on the zoomed in camera, but I don't hate it completely: I think Gates has one of the best dungeon designs among all games, and that's in part thanks to the zoom, associated with the very nice assets that are scattered in halls and rooms. I never though I would see animated WATERFALLS right inside of a dungeon (and I'm not referring to the anecdotal outside parts of some dungeons, this is the real layout of the dungeon across floors), along with crevices, tree stumps, fallen leaves everywhere... Too bad they partially reverted to more traditional square rooms for most of Super and that we only can see such complex layouts in an handful of dungeons: Path of Fallen Leaves for example, my favorite :D, a 40ish floors long one, and actually many postgame ones are above 20F long, I don't think that overall dungeons are smaller. But you are right, I miss multiple exciting 99F dungeons like Silver Trench or Western Cave. Actually what was undoubtedly better about dungeons, and what I miss the most in Blue and Sky, is how dungeons used to change as we climbed them. I loved how Magma Cavern was looking more and more dangerous the deeper we went in, with new Pokemon that weren't on the previous stairs whereas in Super and Gates the layout never change inside of a dungeon (apart from Destiny Tower). It really gave a sense of progression and personality to a dungeon; and Magma Cavern is a radical example! In simpler ones we could see patch of water start to appear from some floors, changes in tiles, in layout, in music, in... WEATHER! What did they do to weather? It barely changes in Super and Gates, when it is not ability induced. I am so sad they got rid of Snowy and Foggy weathers, and they won't return in DX it seems. But what gets me very excited is that Mt Blaze or Mt Thunder Peaks have different music, meaning that they'll HAVE to include the save point/separation between peaks and bottoms. They also seem to really care about staying faithful to the original design-wise (they reproduced many tiny details of Blue/Red and the glimpse of layouts I could see thanks to the dojo are promising): so I am hopeful they will bring back the dungeons changing as we climb! Can't wait for March ;)
@@GokuderaElPsyCongroo Thank you for your perspective! Especially on Super, I want to give all the entries another go before the launch of DX I'll keep your points in mind when I reach Super!
Thank you! (Just a preface, the repetition of certain musical themes in order to connect them is referred to as a leitmotif) This video perfectly captures how I feel about the Mystery Dungeon series. I wish more people would discuss and analyze the games as they have such complex and emotional stories.I really hope Rescue Team DX does well as it will show Spike Chunsoft that people are still interested. While I desperately want an Explorers remake, I would accept a new game in a heartbeat. I recently replayed all the mystery dungeon games in chronological order and I was amazed at how amazing they really are. Playing them as a kid and as an adult is a completely different experience. I played the entire demo the day it came out and I’ve preordered the full game. I absolutely love the new art style that they have created for the series and the remastered tracks are beautiful (I cannot express how excited I am to hear the remastered versions of Run Away/ Fugitives and Sky Tower). DX’s announcement has given me so much hope for the series and I can’t wait to see what they do next. (Hopefully an Explorers remake 🥰🤞)
As much of a musical nerd as I claim to be, I've never gotten the chance to actually ever take proper classes apart from self teaching, so I actually don't know terms like that, so that's good to know, haha I feel like most "big" reviewers will focus mostly on the gameplay, get partway in, and decide that it's just a bad game, whereas it's the actual playerbase that gets in depth with it and appreciates the story and music. It would be really cool to see more people actually analyzing the stories, like I only scratched the surface in this. And I was actually planning on doing full playthroughs of all 4 PMD games as well, and making a series on it, but now this remake messes with those plans, haha. Let's hope that this is the beginning of a new era for PMD, and that it continues with PMD2 on the Switch!
I'll admit the passion in your voice as you talked about this beautiful series had me on the verge of tears several times. This game has meant so much to me and I don't believe I would be the same person I am now without them. Explorers is my favorite game and just the thought that maybe if DX succeeds we could get a remake of them fills me with joy for what could be. I don't want to see mystery dungeon fail again what they have is special and I desperately want to see more of it.
I’m sorry but GTI’s story was amazing, emotional, and extremely thought-provoking. It’s way better than Super Mystery Dungeon’s story which was beyond convoluted.
Thanks to this review I watched your lets play of PMD Explorers, and was brought to tears by a pokemon masterpiece that I had somehow missed and wished I had scene when it first came out.
In PMD2 I never actually picked up how many timed that leitmotif was used but omg now hearing it out of context, you really appreciate it. It guides you through the second half of the story elegantly.
Even though the story isn't super engaging, in terms of boldness in the pokemon games universe I absolutely LOVE pokemon colosseum for that. It's classic pokemon gameplay but with much higher difficulty and a really darker setting.
Seeing this a year later. I only played PMD1 and now I’m debating on PMDDX. I’m glad I came across this, you put so much work into this and it shows. Earned my sub!
Hey sanks This is like the first video I made that really went anywhere, and honestly looking back at it it's like "aaaaaaa I coulda made it so much better nowadays", but it's cool to see there are still those enjoying it to this day, haha
AcousticHarmonia: I very much agree with your sentiments of the series of Pokemon mystery dungeon up to date. When I'd first gotten my Nintendo Ds for the original, it had me hooked on a level I never thought possible before. At the advent of gates I put off the series as it had gotten rid of what had made it amazing to begin with. With Super Mystery Dungeon I more felt it were geared toward kids rather than the core audience that had fallen in love with the series before. With Sword and Shield and hearing reviews of them being 1 dimensional hop to gyms beat the baddies all over again and even then Nintendo falling to the modern trope of DLC over a third or even more complete game had made me jaded with the series as a whole. Though nothing could explain the wave of nostalgia and pure 'I gotta get it' when Mystery dungeon were released. I have this feeling lots of time and effort were put into this, and I get the feeling while being a remake, it may just have some extra content that otherwise without the other titles wouldn't be in the game. I feel this game will be a remake plus some. I digress your video was amazing, and I hope to see more
I understand that level of being hooked, PMD1 as my first Pokemon game ever completely shook me. Gates didn't really appeal to me a whole lot either, though I have come to respect it a lot more in more recent years, largely because of listening back to the soundtrack and being like "hmm, whale the music is still really good after all". Super was hand holding for a while, but as it went on and towards the end, I felt like it hit PMD2 levels of serious. But the fact that the beginning was being a kid at school did throw me off a bit. My opinions on the Sword and Shield DLC is "whale, without it they'd just release a third version with this content later for a higher price than the DLC would be, dunno why Pokemon is the one series where it's just normal to get away with this weird 'same game plus more' sales tactic". Overall, I actually really liked Sword and Shield on their own though, mostly for the music, what with a name like "AcousticHarmonia", I focus on music a lot, haha. And yeah, when I saw that PMD was getting remake, I know what you mean of that feeling of "just gotta get it". It definitely feels from the gameplay so far that it's a remake plus some, but hopefully that'll be reflected in more than just the base gameplay. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! After the reception it's gotten I wouldn't mind making more like this, but now I've expressed most of my PMD thoughts, haha, maybe I'll come up with something
I really hope this remake excelled in sales so the company doesn't give up on this series. I confess I think I like this games more than the main ones.
Same, haha
The main ones gave many of the things reused by MD however lol. Including now these models although they're compressed. This game doesn't have to sell for the series to continue btw, it's a slightly improved remake. If anything they'll eventually change strategy, MD will not die, Super surely sold well and they made a single pause till now.
Faaacts if it wasn't $60 I'd buy two copies just to support the series
@@Terapagos3000 No, Super didn't sell well, it only sold slightly over 1 million compared to Explorers of Sky/Time/Darkness which sold nearly 6 million copies altogether. Chunsoft implied that Super Mystery Dungeon was going to be the last game. This remake seems to be a test to see if the series is still relevant and people still have an interest in it. If you don't think PMD DX is worth buying, that's fine, but for people that really enjoy the PMD series, the sales of these games matter. If we want the series to continue with new games, this game needs to sell well. I'm buying it because Red/Blue Rescue Team is a great game and I want to support a series I love, especially when the developers are not an extremely wealthy company (like Gamefreak) and actually put effort into their game's stories.
@@AuraKumo104 I really enjoy the pmd series and I think Red/Blue Rescue are great, and still this remake isn't worth it for me. I don't remember the statements about Super or if it was just the "definitive" md followed by a pause, however they already broke that statement as however it could be, statements over successful series are always temporary. You can ask for MD without having to pay for it, to then pay again for the actual new MD... I don't think it would be logical of anyone to consider a remake of that size a matter of decision over a series, but Super not selling much at least makes me understand why they would do a remake
Oh gosh, a remake of PMD2 if this sells well? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY FLUFFING MONEY!!!
AND MINE TOO
I would actually nut my pants if we ever got that
Understandable
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY SOUL!!!!
I would freak out! Time was my first mystery dungeon game and had me hooked on the series.
In a generation where pokemon games are typically dumbed down to mindless battling, PMD remake is such a huge and much needed breath of fresh air that gives us what weve been craving for for years.
agreed
Agreed
That and it doesn't helpt that the newer PMD were hot garbage. (Forced myself to play through them and boy were they horrendous, they even managed to fuck up the balancing even more) None of them had even close the charm, athmosphere and love of the first two PMD-games.
I do hope that the remake has some additional stuff in it, else i'd just grab my old cartridge and play that one again. Not quite a fan of the minimalistic backgrounds in the village, sadly. They looked a bit lazy in the demo.
Yes
Absolutely
Let’s make PMDRTDX a sucess!
Yes we must!
That's the best thing we can do to bring the series back to life. I want to see it continue!
1st day purchase for me ^_^
Hell f**king yeah!
Im in, but can we just call it PMDDX or PMDX or something
Why are tears coming down my eyes? Do i miss my old friend that much?
Super PMD was extremly bad.
I was legit shocked.
Seriously, i was shocked.
...We need a new game.
time and darkness are games that made me lock myself in the bathroom with the volume off mashing A when ever i reached the ending on my multiple playthroughs and even then i still cried.
Haha, that's awesome. PMD just has that kind of effect
@clusterfvck It almost makes you wonder if dumping down pokemon for the kiddos was a smart thing to do.
I cried during the end of Blue Rescue Team (Charizard made me cry) time/darkness/time made me cry when Grovyle sacrificed himself. And when we were suppose to go bye bye in PMD2 I was happy that we will be with Grovyle again but no we had to be sent back.
@@amanogirl1 its better in sky since we have the Grovyle special episode but because i played time/darkness first it is only assumed that grovyle is dead and you need to live with that for the rest of the game and it sucks.
and yes i cried in the bathroom during the DX ending too
One thing to consider as to why PMD1 was chosen to be remade: PMD1 is the only game in the series not to be dependent on the dual screen formula. Remember, as you mentioned, Red Rescue Team was released onto the GBA, which was a single screen system, like the Switch. Thus, if they still had the source code available, there's probably more code that could be reused than the other games, making it a cheaper game to test the waters with.
Its because they are the first?
You've managed to sum up exactly why I love this series so much and why I, and many others, are praying that Rescue Team DX is able to sell well. Brilliant video, this is criminally underviewed.
Explorers will always be my favourite games and nothing will change that, but seeing them remade would honestly be magical. Here's to a 2021/2022 Explorers remake!
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words!
And yes, hopefully we'll be able to see an Explorers remake in the coming years!
I’ve never played explorers or rescue team. Gates was my very first game.
My grandma got me it for a present on my birthday. I tried it, and I couldn’t figure out how to use attacks.
I left it for a few years.
Then I went back to it. I played it, and I LOVED IT! I instantly started researching on this game and now I finally get to play rescue team!
@@pekowhomst7994 Gates had some issues here and there, well at least in comparison to the other PMD titles, but on its own it really is rather fantastic
I’m here from the future. And I’m still hoping.
I'm glad TH-cam recommended this. Small TH-camr, yet alot of effort was put into this project
Thank you!
Yeah, right after the direct I started working on a script because of how hyped I was, and made this in like 3 days quickly, haha
The Duper YEAH IKR. I didn’t even notice this fact until you pointed it out lmao. He deserves more subs ;3;
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Dude your the best and I agree with him if I had a switch I would be down to play the game with you man 💯
@@AcousticHarmonia Hi. i have something important
to talk to about Mystery Dungeon.
Got time?
I am aware during PMD1 there are some times the screen fades to black and you can see a faint line on a side, but after working on this every chance I got since the announcement of this game, quite frankly I'm tired...
Anyway, this is my first shot at discussing something I'm this passionate about, so I'd genuinely like to know how it was received!
Thank you for watching, this series is very important to me, so I appreciate you taking the time to hear what I have to say!
Edit: PSMD was 2016, not 2015. I got confused with the Europe release date, sorry
I better edit this in; I have been absolutely blown away by the reception this video has received. I created this because I wanted to express how I felt about these games to a level of depth that I never have the chance to while I'm streaming or just chatting with somebody. The fact that the passion that I expressed was able to draw that same passion out of so many of you all has been an absolute honor!
It's incredible to be able to scroll through the comments, and read passage after passage of people reminiscing about their own personal experiences with PMD, how much they love the games, how it's managed to make a positive impact on their lives, or even just how much this video was able to draw out of them. Every comment like that, I want to be able to address and properly respond to as many as I can, as you can see though there's a LOT, so I apologize if I don't get to yours if it gets lost somewhere within the mix.
This has been an incredibly wholesome response as a whole when it comes to the comments here, and it's been fascinating to see just how much PMD has had an affect on everybody taking the time to write those. When I think of some of the coolest things ever associated with this channel, honestly, I'll think of the comments section to this video.
AcousticHarmonia i’d say you did a damn fine job i can’t believe how well you summed up these games that i consider to be best of all time (in my opinion) thank you so much for this mate
@@4vatarnick I appreciate you taking the time to watch it, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
AcousticHarmonia just watching this made me tear up because i’m also extremely passionate about these games as well
@@4vatarnick It's incredible how much of an impact they've made on so many people like ourselves. When I think of games that genuinely make life better off for having gotten to experience, these are what I think of
AcousticHarmonia at this rate i just sit and pray that these games sell enough to convince Spike Chunsoft that it’s worth continuing since its sad that PSMD was so under appreciated and could have brought many back if they just went through the beginning portion of the game
You talk about being stone hearted if you didn’t cry the first time you played PMD2. Boi I was trying not to cry just watching this video haha!
Haha, glad to hear that the PMD series has been able to have such an impact like that. They're such emotional rollercoaster games, in the best possible way
Ending got me drifting down and then the bubbles start drifting drifting and finally gone all the while watching some one you care about bawl there eyes out I may forget but that last scenario is echched into my brain
I tried not to cry. I failed very miserably 😂😭
Coming from someone who has had a hard copy of every single Mystery Dungeon game; Starting from Red Rescue Team all the way up to Super Mystery Dungeon; And even having a hard copy of both Explorers of Darkness and Explorers of Sky; Seeing the Mystery Dungeon series come back after so long is such a sight to see. These games tell a story that can rival some of the greatest novels out there. It engages you to keep playing. Pressing on through each challenge to find out what happens next. To overcome the odds of staring down legendaries in battle just to progress that much further away from adversity. To show the complex issues of morality being much more than black and white pick a side type of thing. To show that there is real emotion behind the actions one person can make that can influence another in that complex morality tree. Going back to where it all began can bring both veterans like myself back into the action and at the same time expose a new generation to the unique gameplay and emphasis on storytelling to perhaps bring the series back to new heights.
That was a really good description of the mystery dungeon series!
Few other works made me want to become a storyteller so I could give to other people the kind of feelings this game gave me. One of my biggest dreams would be to work on such a game
The music and visuals make these stories even better
To anyone who's played these games you know the powerful emotions that show up during certain parts of all the games the story in all the games is phenomenal. These games hold a special place in the hearts of anyone who has played them.
Brady King red was my child hood was a mudkip then a squirrel then a meaoth played it till it broke literally it burned out I’m stoaked but sadly I don’t own a switch probs gonna have to save for five months to afford it but dam will it be worth it I hope at least
I don't think there was a single playthrough in which i didn't start sobbing at the end of the main story
I really hope PMD2 gets a remake too. Or we get a new game. Or anything really, I don’t think I’m ready to say goodbye to this series that was such a huge part of my childhood
There’s a reference to PMD2 in DX. Basically, after a long sequence of events, you can recruit a certain pink time fairy.
To be honest, unless they put the same or more amount of care they did with pmdx, I prefer not to touch the greatness of pmd2.
A new game would be great, if they decide to take their time to develop it. They have created fantastic stories with these games before, I'm sure they can make another new surprise.
They can take years and years if necessary, I don't care. I just want a game that's worth paying for.
If they did bring back pmd2, I'm hoping it brings everything great about it back and then some, simply put I want it to bring back everything that made it what it is, while also refining and improving it, like better storage!
I hope they wait before a remake of pdm2, like maybe 2 pdm with new pokemons, stories instead of straight up another remake.
Actually the "unnamed remixer" in the intro is called Own eye.
Also the same remixer that is unnamed at the very end of the video.
Sad story behind that name, i remember that :c
Essentially he got so scared of copyright related things he just deleted himself from the internet.
Or rather, created a second channel and now he only posts originals, but he still exists under a new name. He is now called "Skarblown District"
I'd attribute the remix to his original name, as he likely doesn't want the association with those old remixes anymore.
That's not actually the name, at least not the most recent name that content was listed under, though I think that has been one used to refer to them, maybe the original channel. I leave their actual name uncredited, as they deleted all their content out of fear of copyright strikes. They were strictly against reuploading their content, but I did regardless because of how incredible their work is, but leave them as "Unnamed Remixer" as respect toward their wishes not to be linked to their work. Some people have reuploaded their original videos, with full credit to the original creator, which I think is wrong considering they didn't want to be linked to their work anymore.
I actually briefly thought about deleting that comment just because I don't like that work being linked to the person who specifically wanted not to be linked to it, not even for it to be reuploaded, but decided not to because of how many have reuploaded it with full credit anyway.
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Crying eevee in sky made me so sad, and I immediately remembered that feeling as soon as I saw that clip.
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a game that I experienced when I came out for my birthday, having been told about it by the anime special of all things. While the original is clunky and even as a kid I hated the brutal nature of it, the story kept me going, and it pretty much is the reason I know that games can be more than something quick and to the point like Mario or Sonic. So to see that a remake of that game that is probably the most important game I've ever played to my development as a person, gives me joy I cannot even express in words well enough.
Though let me say my joy is enough to have made me buy a Switch outright after it's release after at first waiting for it to get cheaper or for a pro model, and to buy it both digitally and physically before release.
I want this to succeed, and I'm going to do my part to make it happen.
That's a really neat way to get into it there! For me I remember I received PMD1 as my first game on my first handheld console ever, the DS. It's what showed me as well that that kind of depth can exist in a game. I only saw the anime special like way after the fact, though I did read the manga like a year or so after I first played the game. It was... strange? But enjoyable.
Glad to hear that you're hyped up for it! I actually only just walked in the door after placing my preorder, haha
I got PMD1 for my birthday a few months after release, having seen it in stores and being absolutely enthralled with the premise. Boy, I spent so many hours on RRT and EoD/EoS. I really hope you're right about explorers remakes happening.
@@RedJake33 So do I, it just seems strange that the less popular one would be remade, I mean I guess it's not by a lot that it was less popular to be fair.
PMD1 and 2 were so easy to dump so much time into indeed, hearing a lot of people mentioning how much the games have meant to them like this has been really cool
Do you remember me...? xD I'm still shocked for the DX announcement, man. This video was absolutely great, very well made. I can hear from your words that you're really passionate about this series, just like me. I think, however, that if Rescue Team DX will sell enough they'll go first with a "PMD5", instead of straight to a Explorers remake (which can still happen after PMD5). I mean, 2 remakes in a row? Uhm... Also...
2020: Rescue Team DX (15th anniversary of RT in Japan)
2023/2024: PMD5
2027: Explorers remake (20th anniversary of Explorers of Time/Darkness in Japan)
I just really, REALLY hope that this remake will sell well. I've already pre-ordered my physical copy and can't wait to reach the fugitives part... and Sky Tower, of course.
Mystery Dungeon is really special. Thanks for this video. Fingers crossed.
Name sounds partially familiar, haha
Yeah, I couldn't believe that this game got announced. I was walking into for first Uni class of the day and went over Serebii to see what was covered in the direct, saw "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX" was announced, and began looking up details on it in the middle of the lecture...
I feel like there's a decent chance of a PMD2 remake, or just something original. If the main series got Gen 4 remakes maybe it would pair well with that. I don't know which I'd be more thrilled to see, a PMD2 remake, or a PMD5, probably the remake honestly, because of how much that impacted me.
I definitely wouldn't mind a timeline like that, and really hope it sells well as well. Should probably get my preorder in already. And yeah, the remade soundtrack is definitely something to look forward to.
Glad you're super passionate about PMD as well, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I mean it's not even excellently improved as a remake at all either with the 14 years and console difference, plus those models now are so repetitive regardless. Gates to infinity shouldn't have sold much and they still made Super... I don't think at all they'll dump this series if a remake of the first fails, and I hope they'll not do other remakes anyway, MD doesn't need it.
MD however is the most successful Pokemon spin-off, there will be more
Super PMD was extremly bad.
I was legit shocked.
Seriously, i was shocked.
...We need a new game.
Pmd 1 and 2 are the only games that made me cry at least a bit and even now in the remake i am so emotional...i really hope they see the passion of the fans and remake the secound on the switch!
THANK YOU for defending Super's story beginning. Certain story beats wouldn't have nearly the same impact if the beginning was shorter, but anytime I try to explain that, people seem to think I'm making it up, or that it's not as important as I make it out to be. Anyways, I'm really glad they chose Rescue Team to remake. PMD1, while having a good story, music, characters, etc. kinda has issues with it's core gameplay and postgame. A remake is a great way to fix those problems. We don't know if they're changing the postgame or not, but since the remake seems to be built off of Super's base, the gameplay already seems to be much improved. I really love it's new artstyle too. I love how they made the game look like the promotional artwork the series has had since the start. I can't wait to play the full game in March, and I'm glad this series is back.
Too many people judged Super way too harshly just because of the "slow start", but as you say, it has impacts on the plot later. It develops a bond that becomes genuinely believable, unlike previous cases where it's more like "please believe us these two are close". To be fair, PMD2 did a pretty good job with its partner, not as much as Super, I don't really recall Gates, and PMD1 I feel the partner could have been done much better, that one felt a bit forced to me.
And yeah, PMD1 does seem like a good remaking option, ignoring the notes about its potential relevancy that is. It was the starting point for the series, and is already an incredible experience on its own. It would be nice if they fixed stuff with the postgame (like imagine if the starter evolutions get their own portrait arts like how Super got some, I'd love that). The artstyle is really cool, I just worry some people may look at it and decide it's just some strange looking remake of some niche game.
Now it's just to wait until March!
@@AcousticHarmonia IMO Super would've been way better received if the text speed was just a little bit faster (or if they let you mash A to skip text boxes.) I really enjoyed my first playthrough, but consecutive playthroughs kind of became a slog because *god dammit I just want to get to the good bits.* Being able to mash A to get through tutorial segments would've helped out a lot.
This is kind of true for all the PMD games, but SMD in particular added a lot of new features and thus has more tutorials than usual.
Super PMD was extremly bad.
I was legit shocked.
Seriously, i was shocked.
...We need a new game.
@@astracrits4633 You can make the text speed (and game speed in general) faster in the options, and if you hold down B, the text speed will go by even faster. It's not perfect, but it can help a lot.
@@loturzelrestaurant What was so bad about it?
This series. I forgot how much it meant to me. When the part of the video about PMD2 came on, and I started hearing the music again for the first time in years, I'm not ashamed to admit I burst into tears. One of my favorite games of all time. It always will be.
It's incredible how much the music is able to draw such emotions out, definitely one of the most emotional soundtracks out there
The most beautiful covers of those themes I'd argue are from a certain creator who I won't name, as they deleted the content of their channel, and didn't want to be linked to their work anymore out of fear of copyright strikes. I reuploaded their content a while back, and I believe internet video archive did as well, except they uploaded the original videos with full credit to the creator who didn't want to be linked to their work...
Their covers of Through The Sea Of Time and Don't Ever Forget are some of the few remixes I'd genuinely call masterpieces. I used part of the former for a little while in this video, didn't with the latter. Would highly recommend this incredible music, but warn it's really emotional
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@@AcousticHarmonia Thank you so much, I'm totally gonna take a listen when I get home.
@@amandaa212 No problem, I love being able to share music with people who can really enjoy it!
@@AcousticHarmonia those were incredible. So many memories packed into each note. I've fully decided to, as a dancer, choreograph full dances to them both for old times sake.
@@amandaa212 That's really cool to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed them! I wish the original creator had stuck around long enough to do more than they did.
Hope you have fun with that, that's actually a really cool idea to do with that kind of music!
"No truly evil characters in PMD2"
*laughs in darkrai*
(I don't count postgame as I think of the main plot being before all that. Darkrai is kinda the one thing I disliked about PMD2, though his fate was pretty poetic. I think I could genuinely believe that PMD2 was a perfect game if Darkrai was actually, y'know.... not just like "aha! I wanted a world of darkness! Isn't that just spicy?!?! Time to die stupid nerds!!!")
@@AcousticHarmonia hahaha yess
@@AcousticHarmonia Pretty sure the epilogue to the main plot should count as part of it.
Darkrai does bring the game closer to perfection though, because it explains the biggest plot hole that was bothersome after the credits. Why was Temporal Tower crumbling in the first place? I'm pretty sure Dialga's presence made it impossible to degrade from age.
Also, while I respect moral complexity, even in real life there genuinely are some people who are truly just evil. Not everything is black and white, but some things are. Some people just want power without a care for how their selfishness affects others. It was a valuable lesson to learn as a child. I respect the game for having the balls to teach it while still advocating for that usually not being the case with most people.
Too many people believe these days that true evil doesn't exist. And that's a very dangerous belief to hold onto.
This is a damn good point. I think that's why the archetypical good vs evil stories still have value. They're there to teach newer generations important lessons. Sort of like how fairy tales were long ago.
Spoiler Alert in this comment.
I freaking hate Darkrai with a burning passion, Finally went and beat pmd2 a week ago and didn't know about the final nightmare sequence. I actually got ready to fight Darkrai AND my partner since while I was a Squirtle and he was a Pikachu, I had the Hydro Band giving me complete immunity to him. Good thing I didn't have to and Pikachu was able to wreck his army.
All seriousness though, Darkrai was truly evil in a pretty smart way.
Finally, someone who gets it! But unfortunately, I understand that this game isn’t for everyone, and with many major TH-camrs having never played this game and the generals opinion that I have seen being kind of negative, mostly due to its high price. I can’t say I am too hopeful. I hate to say it, I have been asking for Sky on switch forever. But I can’t blame people who don’t want to buy it, after the sword and shield controversy, combined with the high price tag, a game that will seem short for today’s standard unless they are adding new content... well, I’m buying it and hoping for Sky remake, but I fear those of us with nostalgia won’t be enough.
Yeah, it'll probably be difficult for it to reach a new audience, what with its relevancy nowadays, plus the art style and full priced game price tag making it appear to onlookers from afar like it's some overpriced niche spinoff weird thing. Here's to hoping a new audience will be willing to give it a chance
AcousticHarmonia I’ve been recommending this series to people since forever, I know I am no the only one, is the time for fan rambling to pay off? Let’s hope so.
Absolutely. Anytime anybody I know seems slightly interest in PMD I'm just like "alright, time to type em an essay" lul
IGN’s review of PMDDX, in a nutshell: “this dungeon-crawler has too many dungeons in it. 6/10.”
i’m guessing that’s why it’s not as popular as the main series games. which is a shame, because it’s such an amazing side-series. it’s not as popular or well-known as the main series games, sure, but i’ll still reccomend it to anyone and everyone until my face turns blue lmaooo
@@stonedimmaculate2942 that $60 price tag was a huge mistake. They should've aimed for $40. Its a remake of a $35 ds game. Sucks because the franchise is great
Anyone here, 4 years later? Still waiting
I am a day one pokemon mystery dungeon player and this game has made my childhood what I remember it to be if I look back, even tho I followed the main series after pmd rescue teams I have replayed it several times on emulators since then and even rebought the game for my old DS. I cannot put in words how much I am in love with the quality of life remake of a game that already is my favourite one of all time. And even tho pmd2 was great, I have to admit that I personally never got connected to the songs and story as much as I was in pmd1. Maybe it has been the guild theme that took the theme from me or the story itself, I just didn't feel the same hopelessness as I did in pmd1 where I was an outcast side by side with my best friend who was ready to devote his life to mine and help me save the world. There is by far no game that made me shed that many tears and I am crying every time I listen to the OST of that game. Thank you so much for this video and for reminding me on how important this series is not only to us as individual players but to the series of pokemon overall.
I’m glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for sharing your experience!
Just finished DX after having it for a while. I dusted it off and got around to playing it and although I REALLY dislike what the remakes are doing with just not adding any Pokemon beyond the Gen they are remaking it was a great game!
I really want dx to succeed so they can make a new md or remake darkness/time/sky
Man, the music is such a nostalgia trip. I love Rescue team and Explorers so freaking much. It's not super long since I replayed the main story in Explorers of Sky, and I yet again, cried like there was no tomorrow. I cry a little when watching other people play the final part too. Such an emotional roller coaster.
It's only been in more recent years that I don't cry at the ending anymore, just because I was doing a playthrough annually for so long, haha
But typically even during the multiple playthroughs, it'd still have the same effect on me
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon was my childhood. It helped shape me into who I am: a friendly person who will always try to do the right thing and help people if I am able. As a kid in the Austism spectrum (Auspbergs, specifically) it really helped me understand emotions better. Though I still struggle with watching my mouth today, PMD helped me learn what empathy was at a young age, something I may have struggled to understand otherwise. While empathy isn't super difficult for someone on the spectrum to feel (Studies show autistic people are MORE empathetic than average, mostly due to working harder to understand other people's emotions), it can be hard to understand exactly what empathy is and *especially* why. PMD showed me the why. It gave me a boost to my social skills, and though I may still lack in quite a few areas, I would be much worse off without them. PMD was a gateway to a large community of people who all feel the same way, and I learned from the game that I wasn't alone when I cried, and that it was a good thing to cry.
Stories like this are really heartwarming to read, and have really opened my eyes to how much of an impact these games have been able to have. I can see how PMD could definitely help teach empathy, and it's really awesome that it's been able to help you in that way
@@AcousticHarmonia Stories like mine aren't something you hear everyday. However, I'm sure many games have stories like mine. PMD holds my story but another game, maybe Undertale or even Zelda, has another.
Explorers of Time has a special place in my heart from my childhood. I spent hours upon hours in this game and absolutely explored as much as I could. I remember the final moments where I unlocked Palkia and Dialga - the final legendaries I needed to unlock - and loved the satisfaction of tearing through the dungeons I spent so long in traversing.
I hope with all my heart that mystery dungeons gets a renewed love so that another generation of kids enjoys these wonderful set of games.
There's so many dungeons to explore... After my first playthrough of doing all that I could, from then on I only played through the main plot, annually at that. Legendaries like Dialga and Palkia sure made it an interesting time exploring around though.
That'd be really awesome if it'd be able to achieve that! I may have to introduce this game to my cousins kids, try to convert them into PMD nerds like me, haha
AcousticHarmonia absolutely. As a kid I couldn't truly appreciate how wonderful the story was, but it obviously worked because of how it sucked me into playing the game so much. I only mention the legendaries to indicate the dedication that fans have to exploring this game.
I'm the type to do 1 utterly complete play through. After finishing the story and everything it had to offer, I had a well of satisfaction in me, and was content in my experience of it for years.
So yeah, we'll see how it goes.
The ending of the first mystery dungeon was probably the first game that made me cry. After this awesome story i liked every single character and seeing them all cry brought tears to my eyes. Love that game.
It was my first for that as well
I await a new Pokémon Mystery Dungeons title 😭 (PMDRTDX was the first one of the series I really got into, I was too young when I tried sky on Wii U)
Never got to play the original PMD games so I was super excited when PMD DX got announced and seeing this just hypes me up so much more :D
Glad it helps hype you up!
In my opinion, PMD2 and PSMD are the best, and PMD1 is like a tech demo in comparison. But PMD2 and PSMD are some of my favorite games of all time, so that comparison of PMD1 still makes it a masterpiece in my eyes. It lays the groundwork for the standard of the mystery dungeon series, and is an incredible game in its own right
PMD fan from Japan here. Thank you so much for this video; though I knew facts of the history explained here, it felt amazing to see so many people with a strong passion for this series. It always does.
Hopes to more in the future.
I've never ever seen anyone explain the amazing experience mystery dungeon is so perfectly.
Calling the endings “bittersweet” is a MASSIVE understatement. “Though the parting may hurt, the rest I leave in your hands.” “Do me one last favor, and don’t you cry!”
13:33 I was looking away for a second or two when I heard this melody in this video. Emotions instantly flushed into me and brought me to tears. This GAME, dude, it is so PERFECT
Wow, this is truly an amazing video! I kinda needed a video like this after how much some people were trying to trash on this game and series as a whole.
One of the best videos about PMD: RTDX, if not the best!
I’m also a fan who is really passionate of PMD and is hoping that it’ll get the love and support it deserves. Let’s hope this games succeeds and brings the series back to relevance once more! 💖✨
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! And absolutely, it'd be fantastic if this could be the spark to bring it back to being mainstream and not niche and obscure
Interesting youtube recommendation, but i ain't complaining
Yes, now buy the game O.O
honestly i want more mystery dungeon games that arent pokemon. as someone who's first game was darkness and played along side my brother playying time and then use experiencing sky together and then going back and me getting red and him getting blue, and i really enjoyed the 3ds games, i wouldnt be upset about a new pokemon mystery dungeon, but i want to other i.p.s brought into mystery dungeon or even a brand new mystery dungeon i.p. im definitely excited for the new shiren the wanderer mystery dungeon thats rumored for 2024.
That was a very well made video. It gave me chills hearing somebody speak so highly of this amazing spinoff. Thank you.
Never before I have subscribed to a TH-cam channel so quickly! I love PMD1, PMD2, PMD4 and PMD5 so I’m going to keep supporting this series in any way I can! I even bought a plushie of Charmander and a plushie of Pikachu (both wearing their spiffy scarves) shortly before last Christmas! As for sales, PMD5 is already among the bestselling Nintendo Switch games so I think the future is bright!
Edit: Grovyle is smiling at those last four words!
Ah yes, the first game that made me full on cry at the end. I feel like it will be no different this time around, granted they keep the music and story relatively the same.
I personally liked the soundtrack of PMD1 the most, followed by PMD2. While the soundtracks of the 3DS titles are gorgeous without a doubt, they somehow never stuck with me.
Anyway, a PMD2 remake would be beyond awesome, since it's also my favourite PMD game. But I have a feeling that if PMDDX ends up being successful, their next move would be to introduce a brand new PMD title into the series, which I totally won't be complaining about. Either way, super excited about the future of the series!
Well you know i'm a big fan of pmd when my favourite pokemon are darkrai, grovyle and dusknoir ahaha
I already bought pmdDX and i'm so hyped to play it! Pmd 1 and 2 are definitly my favourite games of all
Shnice!
I would consider Gates to Infinity more of an experimental phase. It was the first PMD on the 3DS and they had to remake models for all the new Pokemon. That's a lot of work. They probably served a similar role as X and Y did, to test out the system and see what could work. We could see the fruits of their labor in Super as most of their mistakes and trials were fixed. That's my opinion at least. Making video games is hard work lol
That could well be the case.
And making video games is hard work indeed. I had to make one last Uni semester within 3 months in a team of 6, and lemma tell ya did I ever underestimate how stressful it would be
The series caught me with Red rescue team when I found it among my moms games she had in container of games she forgot about so I grabbed it and played on it. I think it was the very year it came out not that I actually remember how old I was at the time but still pretty young. I played as a Mudkip which I as of this day any new mystery dungeon I always played my very first run as a Mudkip as a sort of tradition of sorts. (I was mad when gates didn't have Mudkip. It broke my tradition. ) The ending made me cry only because I thought it was one of those games where there is nothing after the credits and when you load up the save file it brings you back to the final dungeon. Then when I was 10 I got explorers of sky and played the heck out of it and the ending once again made me cry. I replayed red and sky so many times because I loved the story, I still am replaying sky actually. Still enjoyed gates to infinity but hated that final boss fight, and alas the ending still made me cry. I tried to play new mystery but it was too hard for me when it came out so I got rid of it. But I think I am going to rebuy it all these years later at 21 years old and beat it for once before I buy this remake. Because I enjoy all of them.
That's awesome to hear you've had such a time with the series! It's actually been really cool to read so many comments of people recalling their time with the PMD series like this
I cant believe you are only at 1k subs, thx YT algorithm, I found myself probably one of the greatest content creators there is. That Video goes into so much Detail about PMD and I am glad there are ppl like you that are still that passionate about one of the greatest gladly not anymore forgotten Games there has ever been. Thank you for making such high quality videos, I appreciate you.
This is seriously such a well put together video and it makes me so happy to see people that love the series as much as I do. I would absolutely die to get more remakes or even a brand new addition to the series, and seeing this remake come out gives me hope. I’m gonna be getting the game in April hehe
Glad you enjoyed the video! And shnice, hope you enjoy the game when you get it in April then! I've been enjoying it so far, but university has been keeping me from binging the game like I know I would otherwise
One of the most unique mystery dungeon mechanics that made it feel special and was a real game changer was cut with psmd and also wasnt in the remaster of the og(which is why i hated to play it)
Regular attacks. They were crucial to traverse Dungeons when youre in the endgame. I mean the thing about being a pokemon is dealing with things in another way and just hitting enemys with a slap without using attacks seems like a thing you should be able to do if you want
30:54 Chikorita literally is Todd Howard
Today I watch this video for the first time. every minute make me nostalgic. i watch the whole video and need to say im 22 today, my first game for my first nintendo ds was explorers of the darkness. then i played rescue team blue next and sky again, today i made 100% of pmd rescue team dx, i love it. i think i find this video 2 years later cause i research everything on youtube, pmd was all of my time my favorite part and there are so many new functions from titles in the past what they put in one whole game, i know it was only a remake, but i enjoy every second til the end and love it. i hope one day this journey makes a new version after dx. *- i would buy it at the first day
I almost forgot about how good PMD2's soundtrack is. I am truly a heretic 😔😔
Haha, I was only really able to truly appreciate the soundtrack years after first playing it as a kid. I started respecting it way more once I got into the world of remixes, and have been for a long time now.
The best remixes I'd argue are made by a remixer I won't name, as they deleted their content and wanted to cut ties linking them to their work. I've reuploaded them under the name of "unnamed remixer", and I think internet video archive reuploaded them too, but the original videos with full credit to the one who wanted not to be linked to their work... If you ever get the chance, I'd recommend checking out their "Through the Sea of Time" and "Don't Ever Forget" on this or that channel if you ever get the chance, it's breathtaking stuff
I’m still playing PMMDDX even a year after launch, and now I want all of the mystery dungeon games to come to switch, remade or just ported.
PSMD was the first game I could ever remember that actually shook me to my very core, a feeling that was very hard to get out of me ever since. I want this series to continue, perhaps in an entirely new game.
That being said, I would argue that Gates to Infinity’s story rivals that of Super, but that’s my personal belief.
I don't remember a lot of Gates's story, as it never really stood out to me a lot. But one of these days I'll revisit it with a fresh perspective
You absolutely need to play an explorers game if you havent
Gates had a lot of flaws with it's story and removed a lot of things that made the other games great, but you could still tell they put effort into it and it was still a much better story than the main series games.
@@AuraKumo104 The passion was definitely there, it just didn't quite hit the right marks
AcoustucHarmonia I think the original intention of Gates was to focus a lot more on characters rather than story. Due to the time limitations of a game's development cycle, it's very difficult to write a good story for a video game *with* well-developed characters, so a lot of plot-heavy games focus primarily on one or the other. Another good example of a series with a large "characters VS story" division (albeit to a much more extreme degree) is Fire Emblem, of all things--the early games in the franchise, especially the fourth game, are notable for having really good stories, but relatively little character development. (The NES games get away with this because they're NES games, limited cartridge space, blah blah blah, but the SNES games don't have this excuse--rather, most of the characters have little development because the overarching plot is more important.) Even the main characters have very little...character, and (with the exception of Sigurd and maybe Leif) are essentially just kind of there to make the plot move along and use the magical sword to kill the dragon at the end. The post-FE6 games improve character development a little bit via supports, but it wasn't until the ninth game that we got a truly character-centric Fire Emblem game. Not only did they give us an actually interesting protagonist in Ike (who the game kind-of-sort-of implies to have Asperger's/ high-functioning autism, among the myriad other points of *actual protagonist development.*), but also individualized every single character, not just in supports but also via the use of dynamic dialogue (essentially, depending on who lives and dies, the game's in-story dialogue is completely altered. Some of the "X died" dialogue is totally heartbreaking.) so that you care about every single person in the game. (Except Makalov. Fuck Makalov, that prick can go die in a hole.) Your units were no longer just bundles of stats, but actual people who you gave a shit about. Aaaaand it worked. I shamelessly soft-resetted for hours in order to keep everyone alive. Even Makalov, if only so I could watch Marcia chew him out. Unfortunately, the amount of time and money spent writing all those characters led to the game having a pretty basic, albeit well-written plot (slightly better than FE1's) and very poor graphics. In spite of this, though, it's considered one of the best games in the series by a lot of FE fans (and is a fan-favorite among GameCube collectors both due to this and it's rarity) who play it purely because of its characters. (Even IGN couldn't taint its legacy with a shitty review--it has an 8.7/10 on their site, despite them being notorious for review-bombing pretty much any game with a semblance of difficulty around that time.) Gates...*tried* to pull off something similar. Unfortunately, it did a pretty shoddy job of it--the characters are only marginally better than those in Sky (Gates's case is not helped by Sky's Special Episodes, which gave much-needed development from the characters we already knew from the main story.), and there aren't that many non-primary characters with much development worth mentioning. Additionally, you know how I said FE9's plot was simple? Yeah...that was *by Fire Emblem standards.* Things get pretty crazy in that series. 9's still got a decent amount of complexity to it, and almost everything in the plot makes sense (barring a few loose ends that were meant to lead into FE10, but ultimately cut.). It's also fairly well-written, with quite a bit of world-building. It also had an entire sequel to finish telling us whatever FE9 didn't have the runtime to explain. The same cannot be said for the plot of GTI. GTI really loves to pull things out of its ass, use them once or twice, and then never mention it again. Frisms, for instance, were an interesting idea. A way of recording one's own voice so it can be heard again just once? Cool! What will they do with that? Keldeo uses it exactly once to send a message. That's basically all they do. The partner's backstory? They've always been alone, but wished for friends...I wonder what sort of upbringing they had and what their backstory is! Oh wait, it's never mentioned again. Man, these Entercards sure do seem cool. I wonder who invented than, and what their history is! ...It's never really explained. Man, this Kyurem guy sure does hate the world. I wonder what caused him to feel that way...Never explained. How exactly did Munna and company eliminate all the other humans? You guessed it--it's never really explained. GTI tries to be a character-focused story, but because of the limitations of its formula it ends up being a game with an excuse plot and a handful of decently-written characters who aren't strong enough to carry the whole game on their own. PMD just isn't made to be especially character-driven, as GTI proves. That's not to say it can't have good characters (see PMD2, which has...pretty much the entire frickin', guild in Sky), but it shouldn't be made the selling point of the game. PMD is built around the idea of "story first, characters second," and given the nature of Pokemon (namely, the absurd roster size) it's simply not feasible to give *every 'mon* a well-written character. The only reason Sky's characters were so good was because the groundwork was already set by Time and Darkness, and all that really had to be done was the postgame and Special Episodes.
In essence: Gates flopped because it sacrificed everything for characters without thinking about what PMD is actually about.
I realize that the games are very different from the rest in the series, but I think Blazing, Stormy, and Light Adventure Squad are definitely worth a mention in the "Overconfidence" section of PMD History. They were Japanese only games on WiiWare that sold horribly even in Japan, in part because the way things were done in those games was so vastly different from the rest. If you have the time to at least attempt to get through the games, they are very short. I'd suggest using Google Translate's Mobile app image recognition to translate menu options and moves in order to figure out what they do, as the story is really not great. You can use the app to translate some dialogue, but it gets a lot of things wrong and gets very tedious to do that for every text box.
It could have been included in that section, that's a good point. I've never actually tried them out before, but maybe should one day so I can actually be armed with a complete view of Mystery Dungeon.
Man, this video is truly beautiful, thanks for making it
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
It was something important for me to throw together, thoughts I've wanted to express for a long time, so positive reception like this really helps inspire me
We all know the REAL hero of Super Mystery Dungeon.
Red Weather Looplet.
This has just become my first video to pass 10k views!
Thank you all so much for giving me a chance by watching this video, it's truly an honor that so many have taken time to see this!
I appreciate all the wholesome comments, it's been really cool to read about everyone's experiences and memories with PMD. I'm trying to properly read and respond to as many as possible, but apologize if I miss yours.
The reusage of tunes or measures is called a Leitmotif. It's actually a pretty smart thing to do in games such as these, because a subtle use of leitmotif can key you into certain moods, or remind you of situations the leitmotif was played for, or compare and contrast others. For example, one of the most used in PMD2 (Explorers), the Time theme, is first present in the Time Gear song (also known as Lights over Fogbound Lake), but is also present in Through the Sea of Time, and comes to a head in Temporal Tower and Dialga's Fight to the Finish. In those instances, the reusage of that leitmotif is used in TT and DFttF to signify two things: what the main focus is (fighting to stop time from ceasing), and to remind you of WHY you fight (the beautiful sights at the top of the lake, the flight over the sea - both things done with your Partner).
The PMD series is full of leitmotifs, showing the love and attention that went into the audio. It's very good at evoking memories because it makes these simple tunes a core part of the situations going into them and situations moving forward with associations.
Yeah, I don't know any of the terms because I've never learned any music apart from figuring out how to read sheet music on guitar or learning music using synthesia for piano, my university restricts music classes to bachelor of music students sadly...
I am an avid Mystery Dungeon fan and seeing the first game come to the switch made my heart soar!
I, like you, have played every single one and I hold Sky and Super in the highest esteem.
I was a Pikachu in Sky (with the name of Liz), my partner was a male Piplup named Shaun and our team was 'Team Light'. Greatest adventure I ever experienced. And yes, the music ALWAYS makes me cry. 😭💔
The first time I played through "the future' part, I was genuinely scared as a player. I was sick to my stomach because it was so depressing. I really wanted out and wanted to find a way to turn things around. Then later when your character HAD to disappear?! Darn it! Cue the water works! 😭😭😭💔And then the amount of twists that followed in PART 2 of the game! Oh my gosh! 😱😭
I got to tell you: it partly shaped my future career. You know what I am now? I, am an Author and PMD inspired elements of my work 😊
Wow, that's actually really awesome to hear that it helped influence you in that way!
PMD1 was my first Pokemon game at all, and played PMD2 soonish after, and it made for one of the most insane storytelling experiences I had as a kid, and really shook me to my core. I used to play through PMD2 on an annual basis for several years, and cry at the end everytime, haha. Games like these have also led to me studying game design in university, so I'll see where that takes me I suppose. What sort of stuff do you write if you don't mind me asking?
@@AcousticHarmonia fantasy. I write fantasy style in a contemporary setting.
The series I wrote is called "Angel's Blade" (which can be found on Amazon). It is a about a half-angel named Liz Azzimagica. She lost her parents in a fire at age two, was saved by Michael the Archangel, was taken in by her loving uncle and at age 14, discovered she had wings grow in. She then gained a sword that same night: a marble patterned sword that allowed her to control the elements. In her case: water and wind. Liz's friend Lux, a half-angel himself, helped her learn to control and use these powers. And by age 17, she decided to become a hero.
The rest of the plot entails how she fights who she perceives as the big threat. But much like our beloved PMD, there is always a twist.
Want to know more?
I have 3 books out:
"Angel's Blade"
"Angel's Blade: Darklight"
"Angel's Blade: Redemption"
Am writing more in the future. 😊
That sounds really neato! It's good to be able to invest in something you can be passionate about like that
@@AcousticHarmonia thank you 😊my best friend is also writing a book that will be called "The Realms". His is more Sci-fi oriented with fantasy elements and one day, our two series will crossover.
But till then: we'll just keep perusing our passion. 😊
@@elizabethazzinaro8457 Absolutely, something good to stick to!
I completely gave up on the Pokémon main series at Gen 4. I never bothered to even look at game footage for Black White, X Y, Sun Moon or Sword Shield. I am that detached to that series.
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon is a completely different matter. These games have given me a sense of engagement with the story and the world that no mainline Pokémon game could ever dream of doing. My partner, the villagers, the villains, they weren't just a cute picture with battle stats like in the main series. Mystery Dungeon made them actual characters to relate to. Going back to this world and being able to share it now will be a treat. Can't wait to see how Mach (my main character) will handle himself on the Switch.
Glad that Mystery Dungeon has been able to really engage you as well! Hoping that Mach will have an awesome adventure in the coming months
After Gen 4, I actually really engaged with Black/White, I actually got the name Harmonia from arguably the main character of those games, N Harmonia. It actually gets pretty deep, especially with the way it tells his story. After Gen 5 though, it is mostly the same kinda main series Pokemon thing, appealing for those who enjoy the gameplay and music, like I still do, but not a lot to offer in terms of story though typically
1 year after this video current reported sales are at 1.6 million units making it the third best selling mystery dungeon game. While not reaching the near 6 million sales of rescue team or explorers its still noteworthy and its my belief we'll get one more test of the series performance before we finally get the new title we all want
I sure hope so
Mystery dungeon red was the only game to ever make me cry and I think think only game ever since except maybe kh 358/2 days.
My personal rankings of the games
4: Super. I do agree with most of your points on why this arguably saved the series, but for me personally, Serene Village went on way too long and the choice to completely abandon most of the characters from there was just odd (after the midway point, Goomy, Pancham, Shelmet, and Deerling get maybe 10 more lines for the rest of the game, including the postgame). If they cut out a little bit of the end of Serene Village, or somehow found a way to make most of the characters not be thrown away halfway through then it would probably be in the top 2 for me lol. Also the second half is way too fast paced once the main story really starts. After a certain Revelation, the rest of the story is blink and you’ll miss it. I’ve always wanted to like this game (it’s even where my profile picture comes from), but after 3 playthroughs, I just simply can’t see what everyone else does in this game. Still, I will say this is by no means a bad game, just one that I personally have too many problems with to truly enjoy.
3: Rescue Team. This is a great starting point for the series, but compared to the later games, it isn’t quite as good, and hasn’t aged that well (any yellow Pokémon looks terrible). The remake looks like it could solve most of these problems though, and depending on how good the remixed songs are, could put the remake at #2.
2: Gates. This is a love-it or hate-it game. You either love the story or hate it. Based on its placement you can guess where I fall under it. For me moments like the major plot twist and arguably the most shocking moment in the whole franchise (that spoilery ice beam scene with Kyurem absolutely left me stunned) just worked for me. Also the soundtrack is flat out perfect. Also Munna might be my single favorite character in the series.
1: Explorers. Duh. There isn’t really anything I can add that hasn’t been said before. This is the perfect PMD game.
Amazing video by the way!
Valid points about Super's characters and fast paced story after the twist, to the point that it can be pretty difficult to follow what's even happening a lot of the time. It stood out the most for me though through its portrayal of the partner, which was really incredibly done.
Rescue team definitely had its fair share of problems, my biggest one being the relationship between the player and the partner felt kinda forced. "I just met you, have this house, we're besties now". But it did help lay the foundations for the standards of the series going forward, so it's a great way to start the series, both from a developing perspective and a player experience perspective.
My biggest problem with Gates was I found the story largely unmemorable, I say that because I actually don't remember most of it, and sometime last year looked up a synopsis and was like "oh yeah, that's what happened. Sounds kinda familiar...?". I had a pretty negative opinion of it for a long time, but over the past couple years I've been listening back to the soundtrack, and have really thought "how did I not pay this much attention to the music before...? This is genuinely masterful". Like I said, I don't remember a lot of Gates, so I look forward to the day when I get the chance to hop back into it with a fresh perspective.
PMD2 was an incredible experience. I dunno if I'd call it perfect, but it's pretty darn close. Like I really enjoyed the initial main storyline of it, because it told a story with no truly evil characters, nobody is beyond redemption, and everyone has believable motivations behind their actions, it was spectacular. The postgame plot though I had some problems with, mostly Darkrai. Because up to this point there were no characters evil for the sake of being evil, whereas he was like "aha! I wanted a world of darkness! Isn't that spicy?!" His fate at the end of it was very well done though, pretty poetic in a way. But I think the thing that holds it back from being perfect in my eyes is Darkrai is just evil because they needed somebody evil for the plot. To be fair, it's still honestly my favorite game just in general
AcousticHarmonia
Kinda spoilers ahead for anyone reading this comment chain for some reason.
Super, for me is a game that I’ve always wanted to like, but haven’t really been able to. I will say that the partner is by far the best out of all four games, and I’ve always been a huge fan of pretty much everything after the Yvetal fight (which itself is just an incredibly annoying boss) up until Dark Matter is defeated. I even love the concept of the ending, and see it as an amazing idea for a twist ending, but i still don’t really understand why it played out as it did (although it could be intentional, since I’m sure the other partners also thought that the player’s reasons for having to leave didn’t make sense either).
Also I hate how underused most of the Serene Village characters other than Nuzleaf and Espurr are after the midway point, since they’re barely seen again until the postgame, where they flat out aren’t characters anymore. I honestly would’ve loved the idea of that part of the game if it were either a little shorter, or if the characters weren’t thrown away so quickly.
Never expected someone to rate gates 2nd. I dont blame you though:3
Regular B
Spoilers for GTI ahead
I love Gates mainly for it’s story and soundtrack. I’d actually argue that the story is almost as good as Explorers (the stories would absolutely be equally as good if Special Episode 5 didn’t exist). It also had some incredibly shocking, yet well done moments. The two big examples are Munna’s betrayal, which I’d say is the best betrayal in the series, as well as Hydreigon being shattered by Kyurem. That moment left me absolutely stunned the first time I saw it, and I’m still surprised it’s in an official Pokemon game. Also, the soundtrack is absolutely incredible, having my favorite piece of music in any game (One Last Look at Paradise), as well as a ton of really strong songs. For me, GTI’s top 10 songs rank among the strongest in the series, and has very few duds compared to other games. (RT/RTDX has Tiny Woods and most of the Friend Area music. Explorers has the awful remix of Defy the Legends and Aegis Cave. Super has a lot of just boring cutscene music. Gates doesn’t have any major duds.)
I’ll admit that the gameplay was bad, with way too many corridors and way too few starters (who range from obscenely overpowered like Axew to fairly weak like Snivy) but it had a ton of ideas that were expanded on for Super and RTDX. The main one that comes to mind is the upgradable moves, which is a cool concept that was held back by being a part of Gates’s gameplay.
Overall Gates has problems, and it’s not for everyone, even moreso than other PMD games, but it’s one that I love.
@@Cdv3_ yeah the major flaw of it was the Gameplay. Could be actually a Pokemon game that actually could base the character outside the screen IE you. (4th wall). Not only that out of all the partner in the series gates literally care about the MC so much that he/She stood up in front of Kyrem while almost getting stomped to death and willingly give you up because they knew you had another life in the human world. Explorers is a pass here because there's literally nothing to return to. Rescue team you'll eventually go back due from the quote 'I want to stay longer..' and super straight up did the opposite of the 3.
I am not afraid to say that PMD2 made me cry
15:49 is where it REALLY hit.
And I will never be afraid to say it
It is the BEST game I've ever played, and it will forever stay that way.
The music, the art, the characters, the plot. Masterpiece. And its my absolute WISH that they remake it. It will forever be one of the best days of my life. And I want it to happen, even if its way off in the future. But seeing PMD DX happen, I can only hope that 7 year old me, will show up and play this beautiful game all over again. I remember seeing commercials for PMD EOS and being hyped as shit for it, but while EOS may be the definitive edition, EOT (the one i played first, when i was 7-8) will forever hold the title of the best game for me.
Honestly, when Gates and Super came out, I just didn't like the graphics. I was really not a fan of the 3D. But I do wish I had played Super. Maybe it's still available on the 3DS eshop.
I have a love-hate relationship with gates. It's probably still pretty good as a game, just not in comparison to the other PMD games. The story is kinda eh to me, but not straight up bad eh, but the kind where you can tell they genuinely tried, but didn't quite hit their mark. Music is just as incredible as always, but I only really realized that within the last few years.
Super though I absolutely fell in love with, to the point that I was debating in my head for close to a year whether I liked Super or Sky better, and eventually settled on Sky has better story, not by a lot though, Sky developing more characters and a greater world, Super developing a better partner and relationship, and Super has way better music, because every dungeon theme is a jammer
I played the story in super and then lost motivation after that even though I know there's a lot of post-game content in it. In gates, I stumbled across the "Gilded Hall Inner Chamber" (Tyrian Maze Inner Chamber) and that was the best most exciting dungeon, when I didn't even know it had legendaries there.
@@AcousticHarmonia supwr is so challenging, i have no idea how i beat it
@@roojackaroo8517 I beat it the first time with item spamming and wand abuse essentially. Second time playing it a couple years later it was so much easier and I didn't have to do any of that
@@AcousticHarmonia mystery dungeon, includinf super are in my eyes,better than the main series
So happy that they are giving it another chance, if i buy a switch,it will be for this game
Ahhh the memories... pmd red rescue and explorers of sky brings back sooo much nostalgia.. the story, the gameplay, surprise monster houses, the music, the art... my god these games had it all. Every once in a while I think about Pmd and Pikmin and wonder why these games never get talked about. Literally hidden gems. Even my friends who played pmd once said the game left an emotional mark in them. I hope the remake reignites the flame to keep the series going ☺️❤️❤️
17 minutes in and I cried four times in a row. 😭👌
But I have to disagree with Gates to Infinity. The mainline story is the second best, right after explorers, IMO. Gates has bigger story-events than Rescue Team and because of its controversy, it's more unique than PSMD.
As you said, PSMD has the same structure as Explorers, only in another story. That's why PSMD is the worst of them all story-wise. Yeah, the OST is great and the plot-twist isn't that bad, but the game is based on coping old structures and nostalgia, which makes not only PSMD itself less unique, but also explorers, because they're comparable.
Also PSMD's main-story ending is the only one, where I didn't get emotional at all, because the fact that the partner is Mew, wasn't only predictable, but way too farfetched.
What wasn't predictable is the announcement of Rescue Team DX. Red Rescue Team was the last Pokémon game I've played, before I took a break from Pokémon in general in 2006/2007. I think that's why Gen3 overall is my favorite Generation. However, because of hard times and depressions in 2012, I found my old DS and played it again.
Then I found out that there's another PMD, including new Pokémon from Gen4, which was Explorers of Sky. I bought it on Amazon and it was literally the first unknown Pokémon-game I've played since the break I had and my mind and feelings were blown away by its story.
Also, the way PMD2 introduced the newer Gen4 Pokémon to me was more charming than the mainline series could ever do. If I would have played Diamond/Perl at first, instead of PMD2, I would care less about the Gen4 Pokémon, because in PMD, they're not only Pokémon with types, abilities and moves, they were personalities with emotions and background-stories.
I can't wait for PMD RT DX and I can imagine that there could be new never told stories for some characters in the post-game. But I don't get my hopes too high. Even if it's just the remade PMD1, I'm still glad that they don't give up on PMD that easily. ❤️
Thank you so much for making this video. 😊
My opinions on Gates can't be super valid, because when I consider it unmemorable, I actually genuinely don't remember it. I really didn't like it at all when I first played it on release. But the last few years I've been listening back to the soundtrack, and it really got me thinking "wow, this soundtrack is still the PMD level of quality. Maybe I should have payed more attention". It was like a year ago ish I read a synopsis of the plot to refresh my memory, vaguely remembered some. I still prefer the stories of the other PMD games, and have several problems with Gates, but I can tell they really tried with the story, that there was still plenty of heart and soul poured into it, and that they wanted to try something different, which is commendable.
I was planning on doing a playthrough series of all PMD games in order, including Gates so I can actually look at it in this new way I view it rather than my first impressions from years ago. But this remake messes with those plans for what kind of series that'd be, haha. But one day I do want to replay Gates, actually viewing it with respect.
Thank you for sharing your opinions, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@AcousticHarmonia Thank you again for answering, I would've never expect it that quickly. And I'm looking forward to your playthrough series. 😊
What makes Gates even more important to me is the fact, that I can identify myself with characters like Gurdurr and Virizion at the beginning, since I've lost my trust in the world, during a bigger depression. This game literally gave me back my hopes to live again. I guess this is what Gates makes so special for me. And I was surprised how they put the actual situation of the real human world into the game.
Also, the plot-twist with Munna was the most unexpected and the moment Kyurem literally killed Hydreigon in a cut-scene, is the most shocking thing I've seen in a Pokémon game. 👌
gates to infinity was my first pokemon game. and it still stands out has my favorite PMD. with explorers 2ed. never played rescue team. and super will always be my least favorite PMD game. as its hell to play.
@@Gagafreak92 It sure sounds like it was able to have a deep personal impact then. Mystery Dungeon is honestly the series that I see as most able to do that, to be able to help people and make them feel better off, so hearing a very drastic example like that is really inspiring.
The plot had some really unique ideas going for it, with the human world reminding me of 4th wall breaking story integration similar to Undertale or Bravely Default/Second. I remember being a bit shooketh about some of the twists of the plot, but honestly don't remember a whole lot else. But I do look forward to when the day comes around I can hop into it with a fresh perspective.
@@lilybelden9405 Gates was also my very first game on my first 3DS as birthday present from my parents. The 3DS itself even reminds me a bit of Kyurem, design-wise.
I'd say Gates, Rescue Team and Explorers aren't comparable to each other, Rescue Team was the very first, to try out new mechanics and story-elements that never happened that way in a Pokémon game before, Explorers has the theme of sacrifice and Gates has the theme of hope. They're all individually beautiful in their own way. Super on the other hand seemed to be only a fan-service to get more people excited. Unlike Explorers and Gates, the character-development is an empty gap in Super.
hey i really like the way you actually give us plenty of time to listen to the ost when you're talking about it. I hate when i'm watching a video that comments on the ost only to play like 5 seconds of the song.
Glad you like that! Sometimes I worry about things playing too long or if people lose interest because I stopped talking for x amount of time, but it's like, I gotta let it soak up enough time to express what's so freaking amazin' about the music!
@@AcousticHarmonia that's what im saying! it's always awful when they start talking over it immediately and i'm just sitting there trying to hear the drowned out music.
It really is a second chance at life.
Absolutely, let's hope it works out!
Being one of the few game series that has actually made me cry, the pmd series has always been my favourite.
I only became a Pokemon fan a few years ago and thus also came late to the whole pmd craze. My first pmd game was PSMD, and it was (and still is) the best game I've ever played. It being my first pmd game, I had nothing to compare it to, so I saw little to no flaws. Good story, memorable characters, amazing music. I enjoyed everything about it so much. And it's also the main reason I've met some of my best online friends, so I really owe a lot to it.
Even my second pmd game, which was GtI, I absolutely loved. I find that game to do the best job at giving personality to side characters, from the games I've played. It's the main reason I like Dunsparce. While the partner may have been bland, at least I was able to relate to other characters. Sure, there were quite a few flaws, but every game has those. No game is perfect. And that's something we just have to accept. GtI may not be as good as the others, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.
I've only been able to play PMD2 a year ago and only once, when a friend lend my his copy. And that game probably hit me the hardest. It has some of the most emotional songs imo. Just hearing the first notes of Don't Ever Forget or Memories Returned already brings tears to my eyes. I would love to be able to play it again some day.
PMD1 is the only game I haven't been able to play yet, outside of the demo of the remake. And I have high hopes for it. I really hope it does well and maybe give Spike Chunsoft the idea to remake PMD2 as well or maybe make a while new pmd game. Who knows.
We can only hope...
Nice that Super was that meaningful to you! A lot of people like to really tear it apart, and say that it can't compare to the other games in the series.
Gates I feel wasn't a bad game, but just hit a few bumps along the way in terms of its story, several things could have been executed much better, but it's obvious the developers still put a lot of passion into it and really just wanted to try out something different at the end of the day. One day I'll hop back into that title with a fresh perspective
PMD1 is a really good game, but doesn't exactly compare to 2 and Super. It still has a really good story overall, but suffers from problems such as a partner that feels forced onto you rather than actually building a bond.
In my opinion, comparing PMD1 to 2 and Super (story wise), if those two are a 10, then PMD1 is about a 5.5/10, which sounds bad, but considering how incredible I believe Super and 2 to be, that's honestly still really high praise. PMD1 is basically just what started the Mystery Dungeon system, so later titles were able to push it much further
2:32 t-pose treecko lol
I cried cause the passion you explained for these games is exactly what a lot of us feel with these games! Let's all hope this risk pays off!
OMG!
I physically awed at the 3d Eevee model/emotion box!
If I ever get a Switch and this game, I want Eevee in some form, being me, or my partner!
Also, I agree, the next one they make would probably be Time/Darkness/Sky!
For Gates to Infinity, you also couldn't choose a gender for neither you or your partner.
Your gender being a bit more ambiguous, while your partner was always male.
The choice was taken away as to what kind of team you wanted, other than that I liked it!
Also, SPMD might've been the end for what we currently know as PMD.
That doesn't mean something new can't start!
The franchise can be reborn!
With PMD 1 and 2 being tests before new stuff is brought in!
It gives Spike Chunsoft more time to flesh things out for a brand new game!
You're right, the portrait models are so good! I do emote art for my channel, a lot of which I draw based off of PMD, and I know I'm gonna have to draw those portraits digitally, perfect emotes
Oh really, that's part of Gates? I actually didn't know, haha. That game really didn't stand out to me in any way when I played it on release, but over the past two years listening back to the music has had me think "wow, this was probably way better than I thought it was...". I've wanted to do a complete series on PMD on the channel, PMD1-4, giving Gates a new proper chance, but now this release messes with those plans, especially if a PMD2 remake is coming, can't get ahead of myself, haha
PMD1DX honestly feels like a breath of fresh air and trying to start the series anew in a way, while recapturing what made the past titles so good. From what I played of the demo (twice lul), it feels like the features and content updates you'd expect of a PMD5, except it's a remake. (I just wish there were more starters) I really like all the additions they made! It's like PSMD mechanics, plus a lot more, from what I can tell.
Dream course of events: This game releases, PMD2DX releases, PMD5 releases.
I will get a Switch just for this game tbh. Same reasons I got a DS, 3DS in the first place.
@@AcousticHarmonia Apologies for the late reply, I was replaying Blue rescue team!
I saw a couple of you thumbnails for those, that's really neat!
Eeeeyup!
It turned a lot of players off GTI because of that issue!
GTI was fine, I didn't play it nearly as much as Sky, and it was a while ago that I last played it so I can't remember too much of my opinion on it.
The music has always been great!
I love just sitting and listening to the music!
It's funny, some of the dungeon music from GTI made it into SPMD!
I recognized it immediately!
Hmm, I see!
I say do what you want!
If you wanna do something now with PMD, why wait?
Not to be dark, but you never know when you'll kick the bucket and be led by a Dusknoir to the spirit world!
Yes, more starters would be nice, but you can only have so many when you limit yourself to gen 3 and down hee hee!
I'm not a fan of the speech bubble above the heads when attacking, I hope there's a way to turn that off, because frankly that kinda takes me outta the game...And oh yay, pushing is back....But other than that I'm stoked!
Forget about Sword and Shield, if I ever get a Switch, I want this first!
@@CatherineUmbreon96 I don't really want to do a complete PMD series right now because I figure I can just cover the remakes for that "slot" of that game in the series. Trying to manage time as best I can considering my current game queue is about 1 year long, so if I add something to my list of playthroughs to do on this channel, I'll get to it a year from now.
If you ever do get a switch, there's plenty other awesome games as well, but I could rant about that all day long
The term you're looking for when you say "reuses tunes" is "motif". Both PMD2 and PSMD use two motifs that eventually come together in the final boss theme (in PMD2 the motifs are Time and Exploration - the latter of which is heard first in the title theme - in PSMD the motifs are the Partner's theme and the Tree of Life theme)
Yeah sorry, I claim to be a musical nerd but I've never actually taken real classes and just self teach myself guitar and piano here and there at home (my university keeps denying me music classes because they're reserved for bachelor of music students sadly...) So I know very few terms, but I do know when I really like what music does, haha
Nooooo.... stop giving me nostalgia overload T~T
Noes, I refuse
This was the one game I've never really put down, even to this day I'm still working on my Team Wolf Fang animation series that loosely fallows PMD rescue team! I'm super hyped
Neat how it was able to inspire that sort of thing!
When the promo anime was shown I thought that it was a completely new series for a Pokémon tv spin-off. The games are brilliant but a complete anime show would be the cherry on top :)
@@AUAB2 That would've been really awesome, especially if the show had improvements to things like the voice acting compared to the few episodes we got (the voice acting is honestly fine, it's moreso the voices themselves I mostly didn't like...)
@@AUAB2 yeah, I adored that little special but the "To be continued" never came :/
Hey everybody what was everybody's starting Adventure, starter pokemon and partner? I luv to read everyones stories, I'll go first!
My adventure began in Mystery Dungeon explorers of darkness I transformed into a Skitty alongside my partner was Burch the Treecko.
That's a pretty neato comment idea!
PMD1 was my first Pokemon game I ever played, and I've done so many playthroughs it's hard to remember the first. I think I was a Squirtle, with a partner of Chikorita, maybe?
My next game was Explorers of Time, where I think I might've been Squirtle again? But my partner was for sure a Treeko, which wound up being fitting because of the Grovyle plot
A skitty, with a treeko partner named Blaze. Then I played BRT and I was a Cubone, with the same treeko partner. Finally I played super, and I was a Squirtle, with, of course, the same partner
Gates was my first PMD game because I (sadly) never got to own a DS and I honestly only bought it out of curiosity to test out the 3DS. Never heard of the others before.
I was a Pikachu with Oshawott being my partner.
The game blew me away completely. The experience is almost surreal because of how great it was. I'm just so glad I was home alone when I finished it so nobody heard my sobbing xD
It was my gateway (pun intended :D) into this amazing series and I am forever grateful for it.
Mine was Red Rescue Team. I was Charmander with Pikachu as my partner.
Machop and Mudkip, I've still got some videos on the noo00ooob channel, of my speedruns after I got really good at it back in the day
I grew up with blue rescue team. And when I saw this is the pokemon E3. It brung my back to when I first played it. Just full of nostalgia running through me and I really want to play it right away when I get a nintendo switch.
the only answer to your question is absolutely YES
Thank you so much. I agree with pretty much everything in the video. Explorers of Sky is actually one of my favorite games of all time. I love the series and really thought it was over after Super Mystery Dungeon. I'm about to try this new one out. Extremely excited.
I loved gates to infinity and would argue its on a similar scale as explorers. If not better
Idk if this continues yet, only being 13 mins in, but I appreciate that you said that there are 3 main characters and then move to a seen that directly shows who you are referring to and yet kept a major part of the plot a mystery through great editing.
if you haven't played pmd2 and haven't got to the explorers segment of the video yet please stop watching and go play the game first, it's the kind of game you really have to play blind
^
I try to refrain from a lot of spoilers, but it's really hard to express just how incredible it is without getting into anything spoiler-wise
Are you talking about the bonus episode(s)?
does he talk about the postgame? I'm still playing through the postgame
@@kellenoconnor4396 no post game spoilers, you're good ;)
@@kellenoconnor4396 I do not. I don't even get into the really deep parts of the main story. The most revealing thing I talk about is mentioning the world of the future, as my point to talk about how dark the game gets
Explorers and Super were very impactful in my life and even helped me become who I am today. Explorers was the very first Mystery Dungeon game I ever played (specifically Explorers Of Time) and it inspired me to want to try my hand a making my own Pokémon content like I saw so many others doing at the time. I originally tried making a comic, but decided to make a TH-cam series of it instead as I didn't know how to properly lay out the pages. Still, I always maintained this desire to make my own Pokémon comic one day and felt that Mystery Dungeon would be a perfect game to base my comic on. It wouldn't be until I finally played Super, however, that this dream would come true. I had gotten Super around the time of its release, but hadn't really touched the game for whatever reason until about 3 years ago. I was going through an extremely difficult time in my life and was in a deep depress, having to literally fight with myself to not end my own life. I desperately needed a distraction and decided to pick up my Super Mystery Dungeon game as I had been wanting to finally play it and thought that exploring a new part of the Mystery Dungeon universe, a world that filled me with so much joy and wonder, would be fun. I ended up really bonding with the characters, particular Mr. Nuzleaf and the partner, and their stories not only made me feel better, but quite literally saved my life. They endured so much pain and suffering in the game yet managed to find a happy ending and never lost hope, even when faced with the end of the world. I was so inspired by the characters and the story that I began drawing scenes from the game that I felt could have used a bit more to them and posted them on my DA account. To my surprise, a lot of people really loved my ideas and some even expressed an desire to see me make a comic about the game with my own ideas and twists. I was barely noticed on DA before, but was suddenly getting so much support and love for sharing my ideas and even encouraged to finally fulfill a childhood dream of mine. I finally decided that I would try to make the comic I had dreamed of ever since I played Explorers and it really changed my life. I am still depressed and life can be a struggle for me, but the Mystery Dungeon series has given me so much hope and the strength to keep living my life. It's an important series to me and I hope that it will finally flourish once again and capture the hearts of many, maybe even save another life with its incredible story and characters.
I'm sorry to hear that those are feelings you had to content with, but glad that PSMD was able to help you in that way. Thank you for taking the time to share that
@@AcousticHarmonia Thank you for making this video! It's amazing!
Really nice video! This series is my favorite of all time.
Thank you! And yeah it probably is for me as well
I really wish people didn’t hate Gates to Infinity so much. I absolutely adore that game. I think the problem is that people treat it like a sequel which is fair, but they don’t treat it like it’s own game. If the other mystery dungeon games didn’t exist, would gates to infinity still be bad? I say no. This also may be slightly biased, gates to infinity was my first PMd
You talked a lot about your personal emotional aspects of the series; mainly the story and music. That's what most do.
I wish you had spent a little more time talking about the gameplay and the decline of such in subsequent entries.
How PMD1 had Friendareas and let you play as any Pokemon even in Town after the Story. The incredibly complex postgame structure would be another point.
And how much freedom you had as a player to break the game with powerful abilities that would not return after PMD2, because it's considered too complex or unbalanced nowadays.
Not to mention the 99 floor Dungeons and integration of every single legedary to date in a unique way.
PMD2 added a Player character driven postgame and sky the episodes. But it lost friend areas and the ability to play as any Pokemon you want in Town. Legendaries were just scattered on random dungeons as long as you had an obsucre item in your inventory.
Gates and Super got rid of the standard attack and focused on the usual attacks with limited PP. As a subsequent measure, dungeons got a lot smaller, exploring was toned down and combat was the new focus. You did hit harder but so did the enemy, and thus 1-Hit-Ko's became the norm. That's why the games ended up with you using waaay more revive seeds than in previous games (also the reason they added mini-reviver seeds). Also the camera was way too close to make anything out in a dungeon.
And Super had every Pokemon in it yes, but for one made it impossible to have multiple Pokemon of the same species, and also didn't let you Nickname them anymore. And the biggest sin might be that they put a cooldown on a lot of Pokémon so you couldn't use them anytime you want, even post-game. Now Imagine your favourite Pokemon isn't a Starter.
That's why the remake of PMD1 is so important to me. I'm incredibly excited to see PMD continue, but also incredibly afraid that they fuck it up with the problems they introduced in the recent games. From the Demo I can tell that they got rid of the standard attack again and that IQ got replaced with other system. I'm really not a fan of this, but they did introduce something to counteract the single biggest flaw of PMD1&2, that leveling was a teadious task. Now the Makhuita Dojo seems to take care of this with the new Tickets.
That's definitely an interesting take on it. I typically don't focus on the gameplay a whole lot when it comes to PMD games, with them in my view existing almost completely for the story and music. The gameplay never especially hooked me in, and I'm usually playing through PMD games just to experience the story and music again, haha
And I actually had no idea that Super still made Pokemon unavailable from time to time during the postgame, because I saw how many missions there were in postgame and were like "nope, not happening"
While I agree with you on Blue's postgame and its very powerful integration of legendaries inside dungeons with character and personality (which is one of the reasons Blue is still the best game for me to date), I can't let you say that Super's gameplay is inferior or dumb man! Actually Super's is a huge improvement.
It is the mystery dungeon game that is the most faithful to it's origins: Shiren the Wanderer, the first mystery dungeon. This is where wands and insane difficulty come from, where actually dying was part of the gameplay, as you unlocked new parts of the story by dying.
Gameplay in Super is entirely focused on items. They got rid of the A Attack to force you to use moves, not only because they level up the more you use them but also to make you think about how to properly carry and use elixirs (or I don't know if you rather call them ether in English? I play in French). Same for hunger. And same for wands: ennemies do great damage and have large amounts of HP to force you to rely on HP increasing Oran Berries and possibilities offered by wands; you are rarely supposed to spam ennemies with moves and rely on reviver seeds, else you'll better have a bag full of reviver seeds; you have to use your items strategically!
Also in Super they did a ton of not-immediately-noticeable additions that really made me think that they put a particular attention to this game: sometimes you'll see ennemies stay in a room to attack you from a distance the moment you step inside: you can only counter this by using a wand that makes you warp etc; sometimes ennemies form little teams that always stay together to submerge you with powerful moves at sight, I even noticed what looked like a mom and her child, something like a Rhydon that stayed with a Rhyhorn. You may even have noticed a herd of Ledyba, 4 ones sleeping on a square next to each other! All those tiny additions among others really showed to me that they tried hard to make meaningful and challenging dungeons.
I agree with you on the zoomed in camera, but I don't hate it completely: I think Gates has one of the best dungeon designs among all games, and that's in part thanks to the zoom, associated with the very nice assets that are scattered in halls and rooms. I never though I would see animated WATERFALLS right inside of a dungeon (and I'm not referring to the anecdotal outside parts of some dungeons, this is the real layout of the dungeon across floors), along with crevices, tree stumps, fallen leaves everywhere... Too bad they partially reverted to more traditional square rooms for most of Super and that we only can see such complex layouts in an handful of dungeons: Path of Fallen Leaves for example, my favorite :D, a 40ish floors long one, and actually many postgame ones are above 20F long, I don't think that overall dungeons are smaller. But you are right, I miss multiple exciting 99F dungeons like Silver Trench or Western Cave.
Actually what was undoubtedly better about dungeons, and what I miss the most in Blue and Sky, is how dungeons used to change as we climbed them. I loved how Magma Cavern was looking more and more dangerous the deeper we went in, with new Pokemon that weren't on the previous stairs whereas in Super and Gates the layout never change inside of a dungeon (apart from Destiny Tower). It really gave a sense of progression and personality to a dungeon; and Magma Cavern is a radical example! In simpler ones we could see patch of water start to appear from some floors, changes in tiles, in layout, in music, in... WEATHER! What did they do to weather? It barely changes in Super and Gates, when it is not ability induced. I am so sad they got rid of Snowy and Foggy weathers, and they won't return in DX it seems. But what gets me very excited is that Mt Blaze or Mt Thunder Peaks have different music, meaning that they'll HAVE to include the save point/separation between peaks and bottoms. They also seem to really care about staying faithful to the original design-wise (they reproduced many tiny details of Blue/Red and the glimpse of layouts I could see thanks to the dojo are promising): so I am hopeful they will bring back the dungeons changing as we climb! Can't wait for March ;)
That's a pretty good in depth look on that take of the gameplay side of things
Thank you for sharing that!
@@GokuderaElPsyCongroo Thank you for your perspective!
Especially on Super, I want to give all the entries another go before the launch of DX
I'll keep your points in mind when I reach Super!
Thank you! (Just a preface, the repetition of certain musical themes in order to connect them is referred to as a leitmotif) This video perfectly captures how I feel about the Mystery Dungeon series. I wish more people would discuss and analyze the games as they have such complex and emotional stories.I really hope Rescue Team DX does well as it will show Spike Chunsoft that people are still interested. While I desperately want an Explorers remake, I would accept a new game in a heartbeat. I recently replayed all the mystery dungeon games in chronological order and I was amazed at how amazing they really are. Playing them as a kid and as an adult is a completely different experience. I played the entire demo the day it came out and I’ve preordered the full game. I absolutely love the new art style that they have created for the series and the remastered tracks are beautiful (I cannot express how excited I am to hear the remastered versions of Run Away/ Fugitives and Sky Tower). DX’s announcement has given me so much hope for the series and I can’t wait to see what they do next. (Hopefully an Explorers remake 🥰🤞)
As much of a musical nerd as I claim to be, I've never gotten the chance to actually ever take proper classes apart from self teaching, so I actually don't know terms like that, so that's good to know, haha
I feel like most "big" reviewers will focus mostly on the gameplay, get partway in, and decide that it's just a bad game, whereas it's the actual playerbase that gets in depth with it and appreciates the story and music. It would be really cool to see more people actually analyzing the stories, like I only scratched the surface in this. And I was actually planning on doing full playthroughs of all 4 PMD games as well, and making a series on it, but now this remake messes with those plans, haha. Let's hope that this is the beginning of a new era for PMD, and that it continues with PMD2 on the Switch!
Kekekeh! 😝 PMD 1 has best soundtrack.
Gengar?! I thought you were done your shenanigans!
I'll admit the passion in your voice as you talked about this beautiful series had me on the verge of tears several times. This game has meant so much to me and I don't believe I would be the same person I am now without them. Explorers is my favorite game and just the thought that maybe if DX succeeds we could get a remake of them fills me with joy for what could be. I don't want to see mystery dungeon fail again what they have is special and I desperately want to see more of it.
I’m sorry but GTI’s story was amazing, emotional, and extremely thought-provoking. It’s way better than Super Mystery Dungeon’s story which was beyond convoluted.
Good job on the video, it really encapsulates de PMD series.
Sanks
Hold ooooon. Your partner does have a home.. they reside in their habitat post game, so that pieces the clue to that in the beginning :)
Haha, mystery solved
Definitely explains why the partner always walked on screen from the left side.
Thanks to this review I watched your lets play of PMD Explorers, and was brought to tears by a pokemon masterpiece that I had somehow missed and wished I had scene when it first came out.
In PMD2 I never actually picked up how many timed that leitmotif was used but omg now hearing it out of context, you really appreciate it. It guides you through the second half of the story elegantly.
Even though the story isn't super engaging, in terms of boldness in the pokemon games universe I absolutely LOVE pokemon colosseum for that. It's classic pokemon gameplay but with much higher difficulty and a really darker setting.
Seeing this a year later. I only played PMD1 and now I’m debating on PMDDX. I’m glad I came across this, you put so much work into this and it shows. Earned my sub!
Hey sanks
This is like the first video I made that really went anywhere, and honestly looking back at it it's like "aaaaaaa I coulda made it so much better nowadays", but it's cool to see there are still those enjoying it to this day, haha
AcousticHarmonia: I very much agree with your sentiments of the series of Pokemon mystery dungeon up to date. When I'd first gotten my Nintendo Ds for the original, it had me hooked on a level I never thought possible before. At the advent of gates I put off the series as it had gotten rid of what had made it amazing to begin with. With Super Mystery Dungeon I more felt it were geared toward kids rather than the core audience that had fallen in love with the series before.
With Sword and Shield and hearing reviews of them being 1 dimensional hop to gyms beat the baddies all over again and even then Nintendo falling to the modern trope of DLC over a third or even more complete game had made me jaded with the series as a whole. Though nothing could explain the wave of nostalgia and pure 'I gotta get it' when Mystery dungeon were released. I have this feeling lots of time and effort were put into this, and I get the feeling while being a remake, it may just have some extra content that otherwise without the other titles wouldn't be in the game. I feel this game will be a remake plus some. I digress your video was amazing, and I hope to see more
I understand that level of being hooked, PMD1 as my first Pokemon game ever completely shook me. Gates didn't really appeal to me a whole lot either, though I have come to respect it a lot more in more recent years, largely because of listening back to the soundtrack and being like "hmm, whale the music is still really good after all". Super was hand holding for a while, but as it went on and towards the end, I felt like it hit PMD2 levels of serious. But the fact that the beginning was being a kid at school did throw me off a bit.
My opinions on the Sword and Shield DLC is "whale, without it they'd just release a third version with this content later for a higher price than the DLC would be, dunno why Pokemon is the one series where it's just normal to get away with this weird 'same game plus more' sales tactic". Overall, I actually really liked Sword and Shield on their own though, mostly for the music, what with a name like "AcousticHarmonia", I focus on music a lot, haha.
And yeah, when I saw that PMD was getting remake, I know what you mean of that feeling of "just gotta get it". It definitely feels from the gameplay so far that it's a remake plus some, but hopefully that'll be reflected in more than just the base gameplay.
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! After the reception it's gotten I wouldn't mind making more like this, but now I've expressed most of my PMD thoughts, haha, maybe I'll come up with something