I was at that game when Miami beat the Jets with the field goal, my Dad wanted to leave a little early and beat all the traffic, walking away we could hear the Orange Bowl loud as ever before when he made the field goal. The place was going crazy I was only eleven years old at the time but it's something I'll never forget.
In the 1980s, Shula's best chance to win a Super Bowl was in 1982. Nobody was stopping the Raiders in 1983. The 49ers were better than everybody else in 1984. The Bears were unstoppable (especially on defense) in 1985. The Giants defense were so good and the Giants made it work so well on offense (hello Phil Simms and Joe Morris) that it was inevitable that they were going to win it all in 1986. The strike took some momentum out of the favorites for Super Bowl XXII, and the Redskins' team resilience and coaching got them a ring in 1987. The 49ers put it together in 1988 just enough to get them a ring. And in 1989 (refer to 1984).
The Bears weren't unstoppable, they had a fatal flaw that was exposed by none other than the Dolphins. If they came up against a quarterback that could hold the ball long enough their secondary would be at your mercy. Shame the killer Bees were gone by the time Marino got there. If they could've stopped the Pats ground game I think they would've beat that Bears team
Actually, even as a Miami fan, I will admit that they caught a HUGE break that the Jets upset the Raiders in the playoffs. I don't think Miami would have gone out there and won.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 That's a weak ass argument. It doesn't matter what schedule the '84 Niners were given they still would have went to the Super Bowl and won it. That team was blessed with talent on both sides of the ball, it was extremely well coached, and the precision that '84 Niners offense executed with was hard for defenses to put up with or prepare for. You play with the schedule you are given and you do what you have to do with it, from game 1 to 16. Got it?
@@dominicparadiso5408 They were unstoppable, especially on defense (I guess you didn't comprehend that part) and that was just one game (a 38-24 loss to the Dolphins). You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. That 1985 Bears team like the 2000 Ravens and the 2015 Broncos had just enough offense to win a Super Bowl. But those teams won Super Bowls in their respective years because of dominant and opportunistic defenses. And moreover, that Dolphin game you speak of, Marino carved up just about everybody in 1984 and 1985. That isn't revelatory. And I bet if the Bears would have met the Dolphins in Super Bowl XX, Marino, the Marks Brothers and such wouldn't have scored 38 points. You don't give Buddy Ryan two weeks to prepare for you in a game of the Super Bowl's magnitude. So what is your argument? Because you have none. A unstoppable team can be beaten. It's the pros where every team can show up another team in any given week.
@10:50 Facenda is wrong. Miami did NOT have home field. They were 7-2 and the Raiders were 8-1. The only reason Miami was home for the AFC championship game was because the Jets upset the Raiders the week before in the playoffs
My hometown Miami Dolphins long before they are now playing at Hard Rock Stadium. Only 5 Super Bowl appearances. Lost to the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl VI. Defeated the Washington Redskins (now the Washington Commanders) in Super Bowl VII. Defeated the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl VIII. Lost to the Redskins (Commanders) in Super Bowl XVII. Lost to the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl XIX. The Dolphins haven’t been to Super Bowl since they lost to the 49ers. But those were days when the legendary Don Shula (R.I.P.) was coaching the Dolphins.
Miami was not the AFC's #1 seed that season. They finished 7-2. The Raiders finished 8-1 and were the #1 seed. Miami was the #2 seed, same record as Cincinnati. Miami got the higher seed than the Bengals with a better conference record (6-1 to 6-2). Miami got to host all 3 playoff games leading to the Super Bowl because the Jets upset the Raiders in LA in the 2nd round 17-14.
Miami Beat the Jets 3 times in same 82 season - and jet fans still cried that they were the better team and robbed by a wet field in AFC championship. Jets were crushed by Miami on a dry field at Shea in September with freeman mcneil etc etc
Yeah I was at that game in the old Orange Bowl in the rain, with my Dad and grandfather. The place was so loud when AJ Duhe intercepted that pass for a touchdown, great memories back then.
Bill Arnsparger should be in the HOF. I know he’s only a DC but arguably the reason Shula went to all those SBs . He led the no names in the 70s, left for the Giants for a few years then came back in 1977. Actually from 1977-84, the killer Bs were one of the best defenses in football. Arnsparger left Miami after the 83 season. The Dolphins actually ranked 7th in total defense in the league in 1984; Marino’s SB year but without Arnsparger the defense collapsed by 1985 and the Dolphins were never elite again
Joe Thomas was another big reason Miami would have success. He drafted very well and made some huge trades that put pieces in place for Shula to take them to the next level.
You are absolutely correct , but wrong about total defense , they ranked 19th in 1984 , in 1983 they were 1st in points against 7th in total defense . with ARNIE lol .
Shula should have had Don Strock start Superbowl XVII. The way he used him against San Diego in another game Miami should have won the year before. What is a David Woodley?
Shula might have considered bringing strock in late 3 rd quarter when woodley lost all accuracy and decision making.....woodley was simply too inconsistent ...Shula thought woodley had conquered the yips because he had played well in 2 or 3 previous playoff games. The best you couldsay about woodley in 82 afc championship is that he did not commit the critical errors Richard Todd did....
@@davidpridham3741 Woodley took an 1980 - 8 - 8 team to the post season in 1981 , 1982 , by 82 season he splits 9 games with Strock not good for a 24 yr old QB who has his confidence shaken with a bad game and gets pulled at half , IF YOU HAVE 2 QBs , you have NONE , both play a half like its exhibition season , In the pressure to win Shula destroyed the kids confidence by not letting the growing pains play out over a few seasons , most likely gave him as you say the YIPPS in his erratic play , by 1983 is was moot with Marino starting 11 games . Think what would happen to any young QB , then or now , who by his 3rd year was in a QB rotation , BRADY would never have been the QB he is , IF BELLICHICK does not ship out Bledsoe , but instead said , Tom 1st bad game , Drew is in , he almost does it this year MAC JONES 2nd year lets hope he does not make that mistake by benching a young QB due to poor play .You bench him the next season . You make me laugh on insight to player development for someone 61 . Any great defense neutralizes even the best QBs of the Time including Marino , SB- 19 , so Woodley had a bad second half ,SB - 17 he took a lead to the locker room , strock finished the game scoreless .
@@fritterfoof5146 a great defence will neutralize any dynamic QB…..like the peak steel curtain did to Bert Jones in playoffs. Shula was about trying to win games….not tanking whole seasons to aid in a young, raw QB’s development. 1980 was the season that Shula allowed the team to sink or swim with young woodley after the 6 game mark with the team still in contention.. woodley was traded to Pittsburgh in 1984 where chuck Noll determined mark Malone gave him a better chance to win. Two HOF coaches determined that Woolley’s ceiling was too low to risk entire seasons.
Not putting Strock in at QB at some point in the second half is probably the biggest mistake of the season and cost them the Super Bowl. Woodley did not complete a single pass in the second half of the Super Bowl.
David Woodley was a fraud of a QB, but because he had Shula and the Killer B's, he always got away with playing poorly. He was the opposite of Archie Manning. One guy was a good QB stuck on a bad team. The other guy was a BAD QB that fell into a good spot.
Woodley was a more mobile Chad Henne. He had his moments but never quite put it all together, despite having some of the tools. I would still take him over that piece of shit Jay Fiedler.
Marino was both a blessing & a curse - he was so good that practically overnight Shula scrapped everything he had coached the past 20 yrs - running the ball, controlling the clock, ... - to make us this run & gun, 'Air Coryell'-like offense. And our defense always had to step up their gms to carry the statistically average Griese /Strock/Woodley -led offense. I believe that if Shula had continued his 60's & 70's coaching style & reeled in Marino, who wanted to throw every down and Shula pretty much let him, we may have had a little more success. But I'm not complaining, those were some fun yrs ...
He never had a great defense, I went to many games back then in the Orange Bowl and it was always him trying to come back in the forth quarter. Also a lackluster running game as well. Wish he could have at least won one Superbowl championship.
Dolphins for life!
I was at that game when Miami beat the Jets with the field goal, my Dad wanted to leave a little early and beat all the traffic, walking away we could hear the Orange Bowl loud as ever before when he made the field goal. The place was going crazy I was only eleven years old at the time but it's something I'll never forget.
In the 1980s, Shula's best chance to win a Super Bowl was in 1982. Nobody was stopping the Raiders in 1983. The 49ers were better than everybody else in 1984. The Bears were unstoppable (especially on defense) in 1985. The Giants defense were so good and the Giants made it work so well on offense (hello Phil Simms and Joe Morris) that it was inevitable that they were going to win it all in 1986. The strike took some momentum out of the favorites for Super Bowl XXII, and the Redskins' team resilience and coaching got them a ring in 1987. The 49ers put it together in 1988 just enough to get them a ring. And in 1989 (refer to 1984).
the 84 49ers were better than everyone else..... because they played a weak schedule
The Bears weren't unstoppable, they had a fatal flaw that was exposed by none other than the Dolphins. If they came up against a quarterback that could hold the ball long enough their secondary would be at your mercy. Shame the killer Bees were gone by the time Marino got there. If they could've stopped the Pats ground game I think they would've beat that Bears team
Actually, even as a Miami fan, I will admit that they caught a HUGE break that the Jets upset the Raiders in the playoffs. I don't think Miami would have gone out there and won.
@@chrisuncleahmad789 That's a weak ass argument. It doesn't matter what schedule the '84 Niners were given they still would have went to the Super Bowl and won it. That team was blessed with talent on both sides of the ball, it was extremely well coached, and the precision that '84 Niners offense executed with was hard for defenses to put up with or prepare for. You play with the schedule you are given and you do what you have to do with it, from game 1 to 16. Got it?
@@dominicparadiso5408 They were unstoppable, especially on defense (I guess you didn't comprehend that part) and that was just one game (a 38-24 loss to the Dolphins). You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. That 1985 Bears team like the 2000 Ravens and the 2015 Broncos had just enough offense to win a Super Bowl. But those teams won Super Bowls in their respective years because of dominant and opportunistic defenses. And moreover, that Dolphin game you speak of, Marino carved up just about everybody in 1984 and 1985. That isn't revelatory. And I bet if the Bears would have met the Dolphins in Super Bowl XX, Marino, the Marks Brothers and such wouldn't have scored 38 points. You don't give Buddy Ryan two weeks to prepare for you in a game of the Super Bowl's magnitude. So what is your argument? Because you have none. A unstoppable team can be beaten. It's the pros where every team can show up another team in any given week.
@10:50 Facenda is wrong. Miami did NOT have home field. They were 7-2 and the Raiders were 8-1. The only reason Miami was home for the AFC championship game was because the Jets upset the Raiders the week before in the playoffs
Exactly
I was only about 10 years old and I remember A.J. Duhes pics. Finz for life
That's my home team thanks for the upload cool 😎 video
Had they won they would of been the ones just 1 super bowl behind my beloved steelers at the time
I remember the 82 season like it was yesterday!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ those are the uniforms that they need too go back too!!! The new uniforms are god awful!!!
My hometown Miami Dolphins long before they are now playing at Hard Rock Stadium. Only 5 Super Bowl appearances. Lost to the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl VI. Defeated the Washington Redskins (now the Washington Commanders) in Super Bowl VII. Defeated the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl VIII. Lost to the Redskins (Commanders) in Super Bowl XVII. Lost to the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl XIX. The Dolphins haven’t been to Super Bowl since they lost to the 49ers. But those were days when the legendary Don Shula (R.I.P.) was coaching the Dolphins.
Bill Belichick is better than Don more rings
Miami was not the AFC's #1 seed that season. They finished 7-2. The Raiders finished 8-1 and were the #1 seed. Miami was the #2 seed, same record as Cincinnati. Miami got the higher seed than the Bengals with a better conference record (6-1 to 6-2). Miami got to host all 3 playoff games leading to the Super Bowl because the Jets upset the Raiders in LA in the 2nd round 17-14.
Miami Beat the Jets 3 times in same 82 season - and jet fans still cried that they were the better team and robbed by a wet field in AFC championship. Jets were crushed by Miami on a dry field at Shea in September with freeman mcneil etc etc
That is true. Jets fans find any excuse possible to explain away their own shortcomings.
@@MGAF688 just like cowboy fans do
Yeah....crying about a weather related field incident .....Miami would never do that....oh.....wait. 7:31. 😂
Yeah I was at that game in the old Orange Bowl in the rain, with my Dad and grandfather. The place was so loud when AJ Duhe intercepted that pass for a touchdown, great memories back then.
Bill Arnsparger should be in the HOF. I know he’s only a DC but arguably the reason Shula went to all those SBs . He led the no names in the 70s, left for the Giants for a few years then came back in 1977. Actually from 1977-84, the killer Bs were one of the best defenses in football. Arnsparger left Miami after the 83 season. The Dolphins actually ranked 7th in total defense in the league in 1984; Marino’s SB year but without Arnsparger the defense collapsed by 1985 and the Dolphins were never elite again
Actually the Dolphins defense was pretty average in 1984, they overachieved but getting to Super Bowl XIX
Joe Thomas was another big reason Miami would have success. He drafted very well and made some huge trades that put pieces in place for Shula to take them to the next level.
You are absolutely correct , but wrong about total defense , they ranked 19th in 1984 , in 1983 they were 1st in points against 7th in total defense . with ARNIE lol .
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The Patriots: Cheatin' since 1982...7:30...😂😂😂
Exactly
10 minutes is a long time.
Shula should have had Don Strock start Superbowl XVII. The way he used him against San Diego in another game Miami should have won the year before. What is a David Woodley?
Of course, because you know so much about football. I read your posts, aren't you embarrassed to pontificate like that?
Shula might have considered bringing strock in late 3 rd quarter when woodley lost all accuracy and decision making.....woodley was simply too inconsistent ...Shula thought woodley had conquered the yips because he had played well in 2 or 3 previous playoff games.
The best you couldsay about woodley in 82 afc championship is that he did not commit the critical errors Richard Todd did....
@@fritterfoof5146 your Dolphin/NFL knowledge is vastly overrated. Blowhard.
@@davidpridham3741 Woodley took an 1980 - 8 - 8 team to the post season in 1981 , 1982 , by 82 season he splits 9 games with Strock not good for a 24 yr old QB who has his confidence shaken with a bad game and gets pulled at half , IF YOU HAVE 2 QBs , you have NONE , both play a half like its exhibition season , In the pressure to win Shula destroyed the kids confidence by not letting the growing pains play out over a few seasons , most likely gave him as you say the YIPPS in his erratic play , by 1983 is was moot with Marino starting 11 games . Think what would happen to any young QB , then or now , who by his 3rd year was in a QB rotation , BRADY would never have been the QB he is , IF BELLICHICK does not ship out Bledsoe , but instead said , Tom 1st bad game , Drew is in , he almost does it this year MAC JONES 2nd year lets hope he does not make that mistake by benching a young QB due to poor play .You bench him the next season . You make me laugh on insight to player development for someone 61 . Any great defense neutralizes even the best QBs of the Time including Marino , SB- 19 , so Woodley had a bad second half ,SB - 17 he took a lead to the locker room , strock finished the game scoreless .
@@fritterfoof5146 a great defence will neutralize any dynamic QB…..like the peak steel curtain did to Bert Jones in playoffs.
Shula was about trying to win games….not tanking whole seasons to aid in a young, raw QB’s development. 1980 was the season that Shula allowed the team to sink or swim with young woodley after the 6 game mark with the team still in contention.. woodley was traded to Pittsburgh in 1984 where chuck Noll determined mark Malone gave him a better chance to win.
Two HOF coaches determined that Woolley’s ceiling was too low to risk entire seasons.
Bokamper hangs to that tipped pass the whole tide turns and Miami wins but Joe theismann made one hell of a play to save the game
Not putting Strock in at QB at some point in the second half is probably the biggest mistake of the season and cost them the Super Bowl. Woodley did not complete a single pass in the second half of the Super Bowl.
Nevee heard jets have any don chula .
NOT THE COMPLETE FILM. FULTON WALKER'S KO REUTRN TD IN THE SUPER BOWL CUT. WHAT THE FUCK?
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!
I saved the old helmet I bought many years ago, sadly cancel culture is trying to change our society.
David Woodley was a fraud of a QB, but because he had Shula and the Killer B's, he always got away with playing poorly.
He was the opposite of Archie Manning. One guy was a good QB stuck on a bad team. The other guy was a BAD QB that fell into a good spot.
How to break a 22 yr old QB confidence , give him the hook after a bad half or game , for 3 yrs .
@@fritterfoof5146 Woodley sucked. They won in spite of him and not because of him
Rip David Woodley you left us way too soon 🙏🏈
Woodley was a more mobile Chad Henne. He had his moments but never quite put it all together, despite having some of the tools. I would still take him over that piece of shit Jay Fiedler.
Fish fry in Pasadena
Proves that Marino wasn't the answer in Miami.
This was two years before Marino was drafted you dope.
Marino was both a blessing & a curse - he was so good that practically overnight Shula scrapped everything he had coached the past 20 yrs - running the ball, controlling the clock, ... - to make us this run & gun, 'Air Coryell'-like offense. And our defense always had to step up their gms to carry the statistically average Griese /Strock/Woodley -led offense. I believe that if Shula had continued his 60's & 70's coaching style & reeled in Marino, who wanted to throw every down and Shula pretty much let him, we may have had a little more success. But I'm not complaining, those were some fun yrs ...
@@drzal8553 Chargers south , fouts never made a SB with that high powered OFFENSE .Miami was lucky to make one .
He never had a great defense, I went to many games back then in the Orange Bowl and it was always him trying to come back in the forth quarter. Also a lackluster running game as well. Wish he could have at least won one Superbowl championship.
@@frankrizzo4460 Yeah, I understand where you are coming from.