>Mega Man & Bass was made for SNES kids who didn't have the Playstation. >Hardest Mega Man game ever made. Elaborate Troll? Or deliberate punishment for not owning a PS1?
I would argue that X6 wasn't as bad since you AT LEAST had the option of Zero or just Ultimate Armor in the beginning or AT LEAST, X had some saving grace. Only Infinity Mijinion as a dick move Maverick boss. Heck, the part upgrade for X6 was EXTREMELY USEFUL and you don't have to go back to the menu to equip them ALL THE TIME. Astroman as Megaman or Magicman as Megaman had shitty design even more than Metal Shark Player and Blaze Heatnix as X. Not to mention WEAPON ACTUALLY REFILL IN X6.
joão carlos I did it perfectly with bass one night (GBA), but IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, no matter how much i try,i will not stop dying, i was so tired but i wasn't getting hit, i was jumping around perfectly, and only died ONCE but that was right at the beggining, in the first stage, WAT HAPPENED?! HOW DID I DO IT?
I’ve just realized this is one of Johnny’s most popular videos with over a million views. Probably because it’s so rewatchable, I always come back here for the rage.
Megaman and Bass is now being released on the Wii U Virtual Console... and guess what? ITS THE GBA VERSION!!! What the hell were they thinking when they made this decision?!
Quinn The Quartz If they were going to release the Super Famicom version of Mega Man & Bass I doubt they would translate anything. They didn't translate Castlevania: Rondo of Blood or Sin and Punishment, so for Capcom or Nintendo to translate Mega Man & Bass, a game with very little text, would prove unlikely.
Using PS1 sprites on a SNES game. The PS1 was an aspect ratio of 320x240, the SNES's aspect ratio was 256x224, & considering the Megaman 8 sprites were larger than even the Megaman 7 sprites... & then add the GBA screen crunch on top of that, crushing it down to 240x160.
Well the game is hard yeah, buuut WHO SAID WE CAN'T MAKE A SEQUEL? No, I'm serious THERE IS a sequel for Megaman and Base on the Wonder Swan console. It's not very popular handheld console which tried to rival with gameboy or whatever, but it never got popular and went into unknown with Megaman and Bass 2 (Rockman and Forte 2).
Thank you for the review. No seriously. This game was a nightmare on my GBA and I made it to King's Fortress and I literally broke out into tears when I couldn't complete the game.
I've never played the BN series. It looks very cool though. Right now I'm marathoning all the Megaman games. I plan to go from classic (done) to X to Zero or ZX (dont know which to do first) then to battle network. I'm nearly done with X3.
mushroomdude123 I haven't replayed the battle network games. I was one of those kids who was always borrowing games from my friends. I do remember liking the concept though. It changes Mega from a Robo sci-fi to a cyber-punk and they do it well.
Rock the Megaman Rock the Megaman 2 Megaman CD Rock the Megaman 3 Megaman and Bass Rock the Megaman 3 and Bass Roll's Adventure Roll's Sky-patrol Dr. Wily's Mean Green Devil Machine Megaman Labyrinth Megaman Adventure Megaman Adventure 2 Megaman Heroes
I greatly enjoyed Mega Man and Bass, and I wound up beating it with both characters on my GBA while I was in highschool. It's not exactly my favorite, mainly because it has that hard mode switch flipped with things coming off-screen like crazy, but I did really, really enjoy it. Took me months to beat King's Fortress though, holy shit, I didn't even think the game was *that* hard until then.
Megaman Pros: Easier boss fights Cons: Challenging level design Bass Pros: Easier level design Cons: Harder boss fights It's due to the items and there own abilities.
I feel like such an IDIOT! For one, I didn't know Megaman was the hard mode. Yet I played the whole thing as him FIRST. WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD!!!?!??!?!?!!!!!
When I first played this game I played the GBA version as Megaman. Now I'm going back and playing as Bass on the SNES. It is WAY more managable. But still pretty crazy. In like a day I beat Coldman and Burnerman. Now I'm on Pirateman's stage and I literally TORE through the whole thing.
mushroomdude123 yeah playing the gba version with megaman is about 95% impossible, but playing as bass in the SNES version is gonna make it easier but not TOO easier ;P, but I've gotten so good at this game that I can beat it in about 6-7 hours if I speedrun it
1. I played this game on the GBA, where some the screen is not visible, therefore enemies/bottomless pits/spikes can appear out of no where giving you little time to react. 2. I played this after Megaman 8, which already didn't have E-Tanks. Not to mention MM7 only allowed 4 of them at once. 3. I never relied on that heavily in the NES games.
Take note, boys and girls. This is the real flaw behind that whole "games are no fun if they aren't challenging enough" mindset. Games are supposed to be about having fun, not bragging rights. Nobody's saying that challenge isn't fun. But when you primarily focus so much on the challenge factor alone, that you neglect the "fun" part, that essentially ruins the whole point. The people who made this game clearly weren't thinking of that.
For those of you who aren't in the know, the ending "next time" segment is a reference to One Piece, with the music being an instrumental of the show's first theme song, 'We Are.'
I beat this game for the GBA 4 years ago, I swear this game drove me insane and I beat it with Bass. I didn't want to even try to play with Megaman and I seriously felt like I did enough just by finishing it with Bass. I told myself that I'd never revisit this game to play it but I'll always revisit Johnny's review. I even took pictures of me finishing it, torturous memories to look back on.
As Clement has said in one of his videos, many players (including me) have become so accustomed to playing as Mega Man that I completed MM & B with him but could never beat it with Bass.
*Sigh*... Mega Man and Bass. Where do I even start with this game? Let me just say that I believe that this was going to be a Bass only spin off game, but somewhere in development, someone suggested the idea of putting Mega Man in there, possibly for market value. I would be fine with this, except that Mega Man got the shitty end of the stick in this game. Playing this game several times like I do with every Mega Man game, I found myself enjoying this game less and less each time I played it, and that's mainly because of how bullshit the level design is in Mega Man's case. With the exception of Dynamo Man and the fight with King, Mega Man *really* has a disadvantage in this game, mainly due to the fact that the level design was not built for him, but rather for Bass. Tengu Man's stage is the prime example of this. Whereas Bass can double jump, aim in multiple directions, and make mincemeat out of Tengu Man, Mega Man has an incredibly hard time in the balloon rooms, the enemies that Mega Man can't shoot until they're at his level can pile up and dogpile him, and Tengu Man can be a major pain in the ass to fight. The only other advantage Mega Man has over Bass is the Charge Shot, which can make bosses go down fairly quickly, but Bass has an upgrade in his shop that allows him to make his shots stronger, so that doesn't matter much in the end. Out of all the stages in this game, Dynamo Man's stage is the only one I would say is the best designed, mainly because the stage isn't bullshit with both characters, and the mini boss as well as Dynamo Man himself outline Mega Man and Bass's strengths and weaknesses (Mega Man has an easier time than Dynamo Man while Bass has an easier time with the mini boss). Every other stage besides Cold Man's and Ground Man's stage can be an absolute hell hole for Mega Man and a cakewalk for Bass, which shows this game's biggest issue: The unbalanced nature. Selecting Mega Man is almost like being punished since this game was not built with him in mind. Speaking of that, I'll briefly go over what I think of Bass in this game: I like playing as him, especially how he's a mix of a Classic and X character with his more agile abilities such as his dash and double jump, but in the end, I prefer to play as Mega Man. Why? Well, it's because Bass can't move and shoot. I know this doesn't sound like a big deal and in the long run, it really isn't a major problem, but I prefer to be able to run and shoot at the same time. But I haven't even gotten to the worst part of this game: King *FUCKING* Stage *2*. I cannot express in words how much I *loathe* this stage. The first part and the King Tank, while not the worst part, can still drag on for a while because of how stubborn the tank is attack. Sometimes, it won't open itself up for an attack. But that's nothing and I mean *NOTHING* compared to what I call the worst boss in Classic Mega Man history: King Plane. As Bass, this boss isn't too bad, in fact, it can be fun. As Mega Man... *sighs.* That fist... that *FUCKING* fist! I swear, if that fist lands on a platform that you were about to land on, you're good as fucked. The blinding attack isn't that big of an issue, and it's at least generous enough to give me life and weapon energy, but that fist just ruins the deal. It becomes purely luck based as Mega Man, and I hate luck based stuff in video games. The worst part is that if, and you most likely will, get a game over on this stage, you have to start *ALL* the way back from the *BEGINNING* of the stage. At that point, I'd just say fuck it and stop playing. It's design like that that makes me declare Mega Man and Bass as one of the worst Classic Mega Man games and the hardest besides Mega Man 1 and Mega Man World 3 (III on the Game Boy)... as Mega Man. As Bass, the hardest it gets for him is mildly annoying, and the game is fun as Bass, like really fun. It's why I can't completely hate this game, besides the fantastic soundtrack. Now that I've gotten the heavy stuff out of the way, I'll briefly go over what I think of the soundtrack and weapon system. The soundtrack is awesome, in fact, it's one of my favorite Classic Mega Man soundtracks, with Cold Man's theme being my favorite track in the game. The weapon system is okay, with some weapons like the Magic Card, Lightning Bolt, and the Wave Burner being the best weapons, while the Copy Vision isn't too useful. I should also touch upon the fact that Tengu Man and Astro Man from Mega Man 8 are in this game. I would call it lazy, but their stages feel different enough from their Mega Man 8 stages, they give you different weapons, and they have new patterns to follow, so I'm glad that they were tweaked a bit from 8. In the end, Mega Man and Bass is a game that I'm completely split towards. When it comes to Mega Man, I hate it, and call it one of the worst Classic series games. As Bass, while it's not outstanding, I can enjoy myself. If more stages were designed like Dynamo Man's stage, making the stage fair for both while making a boss or section more challenging depending on who you play as, then this game would have been great. Also, who the hell thought it was a good idea to release the GBA version on the Wii U Virtual Console? That port is awful, so play the Super Famicom version, at your own risk.
Seriously dude, if you can make stuff like this, im pretty sure you could do reviews or something like that. Also, everyone thinks it was Bass only spin-off when it started development
I could read this all, and give an actual well thought out response, but I'm just gonna give you a like and call it good. This is the TH-cam comment section, not a 40 page essay.
Don't get it twisted, dude. That fist can very easily mess you up as Bass too. Keep in mind that Bass has less platforms to work with than Mega Man does. And if that fist wrecks the very platform you were trying to land on (especially if you've already used your double jump), well then...........
teamnoah111 Yeah I know. But last time I checked, it was called Doki Doki Panic in Japan, and it's called Super Mario Bros 2 in Europe and US. Just saying.
Even though the game's difficulty is insane a lot of the times, I still for some reason enjoy playing it. Not to mention it has a really fine soundtrack. I say it's on par with Megaman 7 & 8, but personally out of all 3 I say this one is at top for being more memorable. Of course that's just me really.
Woa I forgot how crazy this game is....I had it on the GBA after losing on Tengu man's stage with some catchy music...After picking Bass....I say Bass like the fish instead of Base but thats just me, I dont recall it being this this insane it was a cake walk after a few fails
Hah, this game... This game is hard enough trying to play it normally, but perfect running it? Oh Man... I've watched two people who have done that and I was mindblowing. Seriously.
I'm legitimately amazed at how I beat the GBA version as both characters when I was 13. I can't play it for jack shit now. Still, its honestly one of my favourite MM games.
Have to agree this game is the embodyment of unforgiving! But for some reason the masochist in me enjoyed the trial and error approach, making it all the more satisfying to memorize all the shit the game throws at you, so you can finally give it a massive "fuck you!" back once you beat it! The cd collecting was coool as well and it has a lot of nods to the precursors in the series which is always appreciated! I like this installment in the franchise albeit it sucks that they didn't release it ouside of Japan in 1998 (but understandable as there was no market for new Snes games then in the west...)
I thought Megaman & Bass was pretty standard from a difficulty standpoint. I didn't even really use the powerups or anything. Am I alone in thinking this?
I wonder why Capcom decided not to include Mega Man & Bass in Mega Man Legacy Collection 2? Perhaps it could be due to the game's difficulty, but that didn't stop Capcom from including Mega Man X6 (another notoriously difficult game in the Mega Man series) in Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2. Though, my best guess is that this isn't a numbered entry in the series, and was therefore ignored.
Yeah tbh I do prefer MM&B over X6, I know MM&B is not perfect but still my favorite in the series. at least the game was intended to be difficult and at least things are thought out well for the most part while X6 is Outright Bullshit. Mostly cuz of so much hazardous stage gimmicks and the nightmare system outright make the stages worse and also instances where you have no win scenarios. Aka the game tells you to fuck off for not having the jumper part (gate stage 1) and get fucked for using the shadow armor without jumper and speedster parts (or do a very precise Giga attack, which tbh how are you supposed to know that) in gate stage 2 X’s section
8:54 "When I'm megaman, Eddie may drop some big energy pickups or he could just screw me over with these dinky things!" Superb and subtle joke man! Great video!
Only entry in the classic series that comes close in difficulty in this one is III on the Game Boy. And that one, you deal with the Game Boy physics and no Bass...
Mega Man & Bass is ridiculous in the dumbest of ways. I played as Mega Man and beat Astro Man with just the Mega Buster, after several failed attempts. I noticed a lot of jumps and enemies assume you have Bass' abilities all right. I may try to finish it later.
I came back just for the nostalgia of watching old reviews, and I just learned that this game had a shop. So much of my time that could’ve been saved....
Ivan Simpson in that case it's going to be more of a rant. Really clement bitched a lot about it in his Lp of x6. Wait a min I just realized something Unless it was forgotten. In Johnny's review of ghost and goblins. I believe the tails doll would haunt johnny for one more game and if remember correctly Clement mentions the tails doll too. It could happen.
David Shadow Star (A.K.A David4jet) omfg, FUCK X7, that is like the M&B of the X series, omg that game is so fucking hard, thank god its not canon, yeah it goes from x6 to the zero series, x7 and x8 are both non canon and any games that are a prt of the X series after X7.
Mega Man and Bass was SO! FUCKING! BRUTAL! I was never so very angry at a video game as much as this game. I almost went insane after I’ve beaten Bass’ Playthrough. I still have Mega Man’s Playthrough to do, (which I’m so not looking forward to) but I’m taking a very long break from that brutal as hell video game.
6:14 That's not all. If you were just fucking around in the room and were over top of the lava when the characters are going to go towards the middle to warp out... if you fall into the lava, you don't die, and are instead constantly trying to walk right to exit the stage, meaning you've pretty much softlocked yourself. It's such an easy softlock to do... which makes me wonder why it even existed.
I love these videos but the weird "friends" make it awkward. Only Johnny seems to have any charisma on the screen, the other people are pretty terrible.
***** That's the exact reason I ENJOY BSC. They make jokes while also getting into extremely critical discussion. I find their videos very relaxing. I personally don't enjoy SGB as much, it just feels like any other Let's Play channel for me. Idk, maybe I've just watched too many let's plays and I've grown jaded?
johnny u kinda missed out on the wonderswan rockman and forte 2 look it up on the wiki i dint even know about it untill i looked around on the wiki till i found it
A few days ago, Johnny had a Twitch livestream. Unfortunately, I didn't watch it. It probably told us when he will upload it, but who knows? Before it started, he Tweeted that it will feature a channel update, probably had the date. I will contract him on Twitter to ask him about is going on. I'll tell you guys if he replies to me. I will see you guys than.
I just realized this now: The GBA port of this game came out to celebrate Mega Man's 15th anniversary. Mega Man X7 was made at the same time as well. Mega Man Network Transmission, too... Mega Man X7 is the Sonic 06 of Mega Man. The GBA port of MM&B is the Sonic Genesis of Mega Man. Network Transmission is Sonic Riders.
The game can be real insane in alot of instances yes, but as a collectathon, MM&B was the game that really got me interested in the Classic Series. May not be perfect but it was fun none the less and I'd rank it in my top 3 Classic MM games. (And yes, I played the gba version.)
I loved this review man. Megaman has been one of my favorite capcom titles. althought i've never played the really old versions. I think I started with Megaman & Bass which is sad cause I enjoyed it but did think it was really tough. the only cool part to me was the music, bass, and the fact that I could smash ass on the bosses again with my powerups. Keep on keepin on this was both funny and informative.
That awkawrd moment that you realize that they decide to make unnaccesible all stages, because you need the weapons to defeat the bosses, as a matter of fact you can kill Burnerman in 14 seconds using Ice Wall.
To think that this translation was done prior to the GBA version and it's not only BETTER than that translation but it also is so good it seems official. Megaman acually has a pretty nice fanbase. Unlike a certain other blue dude.
I don't care what ANYONE says, Burner Man isn't the worst Robot Master in this game. That award for bullshit difficulty goes to Magic Man! I HATE that bucket of bolts and scrap metal!
Burner Man is honestly an easy fight either way all you have to do is stand at the very edge and jump when he dashes at you . You might take like, a couplehits but you wont die and just follow him after pushing the ice pretty simple. MAGIC MAN is the worst god damn boss in this game next to Dynamo Man.
I’m just gonna say it. If the game is designed around Bass, then why can Bass’ movesett downright skip chunks of the levels while MM have actually have to go through them?
I played the GBA port as MegaMan all the way through. Can't say that I had as much trouble as you did with the game, but the screen crunch certainly explains a lot of the game's visual quirks.
>Mega Man & Bass was made for SNES kids who didn't have the Playstation.
>Hardest Mega Man game ever made.
Elaborate Troll? Or deliberate punishment for not owning a PS1?
Not really PS1 just the team did not know how to balance things well!
>this isn't 4-chan
leon2550 And your not brony porn.
Quinn The Quartz ?
leon2550 4chan is Brony Porno land.
This game feels like the devs had too much fun with bass and built the levels around his abilities, so they forgot to accomodate for mega man himself.
But the game is still too fucking hard. Not MegaMan X6 bad, but it's still too hard for its own good
You hit the nail on the head there
+L-Y3T I would say that king fortress 2 is harder that anything in Megaman X6, but they both have their bullshit levels over 9000.
+Xanious It's funny because i find the game harder with Bass.
I would argue that X6 wasn't as bad since you AT LEAST had the option of Zero or just Ultimate Armor in the beginning or AT LEAST, X had some saving grace. Only Infinity Mijinion as a dick move Maverick boss. Heck, the part upgrade for X6 was EXTREMELY USEFUL and you don't have to go back to the menu to equip them ALL THE TIME. Astroman as Megaman or Magicman as Megaman had shitty design even more than Metal Shark Player and Blaze Heatnix as X. Not to mention WEAPON ACTUALLY REFILL IN X6.
Anyone who can perfect run this game on the GBA as Megaman deserves a medal.
joão carlos I did it perfectly with bass one night (GBA), but IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, no matter how much i try,i will not stop dying, i was so tired but i wasn't getting hit, i was jumping around perfectly, and only died ONCE but that was right at the beggining, in the first stage, WAT HAPPENED?! HOW DID I DO IT?
Raven Anderson You perfect runned it on the GBA?! O:
**gives you the biggest medal I could find**
*I feel so special....*
***** How much?
joão carlos *slowly raises hand*
Sure it took me 5 years, but....
I’ve just realized this is one of Johnny’s most popular videos with over a million views. Probably because it’s so rewatchable, I always come back here for the rage.
One of Johnny’s angriest reviews I love it lmao
And he had every right to be.
Check out his Ghosts N Goblins review
I appreciate how Johnny grew up as a more professional youtuber but I also miss his rage fueled reviews
No
@@bulb9970 why
Megaman and Bass is now being released on the Wii U Virtual Console... and guess what? ITS THE GBA VERSION!!! What the hell were they thinking when they made this decision?!
It's what the fans wanted.
So the fans wanted the inferior port with screen crunch?
joão carlos yep. Check Nintendo's website.
SHaBLaM BaLaM Fans are crazy...
Quinn The Quartz If they were going to release the Super Famicom version of Mega Man & Bass I doubt they would translate anything. They didn't translate Castlevania: Rondo of Blood or Sin and Punishment, so for Capcom or Nintendo to translate Mega Man & Bass, a game with very little text, would prove unlikely.
Using PS1 sprites on a SNES game. The PS1 was an aspect ratio of 320x240, the SNES's aspect ratio was 256x224, & considering the Megaman 8 sprites were larger than even the Megaman 7 sprites... & then add the GBA screen crunch on top of that, crushing it down to 240x160.
4:15 Johnny: What pinhead designed these stages?!
Patrick: Who are you calling pinhead?
TheRisingEmboar
(T - T ) YOU FOKIN' WOT, M8
😂
I don't get the joke. (Help me.)
Zee the Zebra SpongeBob reference.
Lol thanks for this comment😆😆😆😆😆
Capcom proudly presents... Kaizo and Bass!
+DustMan Megaman 4 i could easily beat this game as Megaman, but not as bass
+Isaiah Gentle on the gba
+Rocking Pokkon, Played Only The GBA Version, I Got Both on Emulators
Bass and Kazooie!
Well the game is hard yeah, buuut WHO SAID WE CAN'T MAKE A SEQUEL? No, I'm serious THERE IS a sequel for Megaman and Base on the Wonder Swan console. It's not very popular handheld console which tried to rival with gameboy or whatever, but it never got popular and went into unknown with Megaman and Bass 2 (Rockman and Forte 2).
Mr. Needlestan wait there's a legit sequel?
*whom
Megaman and bass challenger from the future
tbonbrad oh i get it .
tbonbrad I can guess...
"bring nine lives to this place"! Can I just bring my cat?
Bring nine cats!
Can I bring my cat that keeps saying he’s not a cat?
@@aionicthunder I mean, he has a slingshot and wind, so you might as well bring the ca
Knowing this game, it’ll probably kill it.
You know it's an old Johnny video when he says "the likes of" a million times.
"Dr. Wily what the fuck?" is my favourite quote from Johns Classic MM marathon.
I guess one could say Johnny is...
All about that bass
I get it
But there is treble
No treble.
Decosonic DarstardlyTV
shut up Nappa.
Neroamee AlucardX Goddammit, Ted....
Sorry, force of habit
This was my first Megaman game....
On the GBa.
Now I know why I avoided the franchise like the plague, jeez...
I hope you were able to get back into the series with the actual good titles
Thank you for the review. No seriously. This game was a nightmare on my GBA and I made it to King's Fortress and I literally broke out into tears when I couldn't complete the game.
Yeah, King Plane is by far my least favorite boss in ANY Megaman game.
It's even worse than Wily Machine #7, Darkman (MM5), and X3's final boss.
mushroomdude123 Yeah but the classic series was from before my time. When I was a kid I was more familiar with the battle network series.
I've never played the BN series. It looks very cool though.
Right now I'm marathoning all the Megaman games.
I plan to go from classic (done) to X to Zero or ZX (dont know which to do first) then to battle network.
I'm nearly done with X3.
mushroomdude123 I haven't replayed the battle network games. I was one of those kids who was always borrowing games from my friends. I do remember liking the concept though. It changes Mega from a Robo sci-fi to a cyber-punk and they do it well.
mushroomdude123 You probably figured it out, but the Zero games take place after the MMX games and before the ZX games.
Rock the Megaman
Rock the Megaman 2
Megaman CD
Rock the Megaman 3
Megaman and Bass
Rock the Megaman 3 and Bass
Roll's Adventure
Roll's Sky-patrol
Dr. Wily's Mean Green Devil Machine
Megaman Labyrinth
Megaman Adventure
Megaman Adventure 2
Megaman Heroes
MunchJrGames Mega Man Mania...
*Rock Mania
Megaman Drift
Megaman 3D Blast
ironfistjoe Classic Rock meets X!
Rock and Mega Man: Worlds Collide
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I call my new invention: Eddie.
Mega Man Drift exist, it's called Battle and Chase.
I greatly enjoyed Mega Man and Bass, and I wound up beating it with both characters on my GBA while I was in highschool. It's not exactly my favorite, mainly because it has that hard mode switch flipped with things coming off-screen like crazy, but I did really, really enjoy it. Took me months to beat King's Fortress though, holy shit, I didn't even think the game was *that* hard until then.
I salute you for somehow overcoming the screen crunch
You deserve some sort of reward
Megaman
Pros: Easier boss fights
Cons: Challenging level design
Bass
Pros: Easier level design
Cons: Harder boss fights
It's due to the items and there own abilities.
7:29 The way Johnny says nothing made me cry in laughter. No idea why. I'm easily entertained...
It's because he sounds like Jerry Seinfeld.
+WrongButtonGames YES thats what I was thinking
WrongButtonGames lol yeah I just pictured the Bee Movie in particular for some reason.
It took me damn near 5 years to fully beat this game and get all the CD's. RIP my 3 game boys tho. They went through some shit.
Really love the parody of the One Piece "next time" promos, complete with the karaoke version of 'We Are,' guys. It's just great.
*patiently waits for MegaMan X series to be reviewed*
don't expect it
don't expect it
You might wanna add some patience to your patience there, Capcom doesn't give a fuck about it
You know the good ones (1,2,3,4,8) The mediocre (5) And the bad (6,7)
I think he means he's waiting for Johnny to review the MegaMan X series
The GBA port was the first Megaman I ever played and I still love it to this day.
Same here, the first classic MegaMan game I've played. The first first one for me though was Megaman Battle Network 3
I feel like such an IDIOT!
For one, I didn't know Megaman was the hard mode. Yet I played the whole thing as him FIRST.
WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD!!!?!??!?!?!!!!!
i have no fucking idea why its so hard but trust me if you play as bass then you're gonna have a much easier time, not too easier though
When I first played this game I played the GBA version as Megaman. Now I'm going back and playing as Bass on the SNES. It is WAY more managable. But still pretty crazy. In like a day I beat Coldman and Burnerman.
Now I'm on Pirateman's stage and I literally TORE through the whole thing.
mushroomdude123 yeah playing the gba version with megaman is about 95% impossible, but playing as bass in the SNES version is gonna make it easier but not TOO easier ;P, but I've gotten so good at this game that I can beat it in about 6-7 hours if I speedrun it
It's "SO HARD" because you're awful at Mega Man. Learn how to play, and reduce your reliance on E-tanks. Easy peasy.
1. I played this game on the GBA, where some the screen is not visible, therefore enemies/bottomless pits/spikes can appear out of no where giving you little time to react.
2. I played this after Megaman 8, which already didn't have E-Tanks. Not to mention MM7 only allowed 4 of them at once.
3. I never relied on that heavily in the NES games.
11:45 Had a nostalgic moment from the SGB Sonic reviews.
Badass.
And with that great music playing
@@pancakecommanderandbowser2279 One Piece next episode preview.
Take note, boys and girls. This is the real flaw behind that whole "games are no fun if they aren't challenging enough" mindset. Games are supposed to be about having fun, not bragging rights. Nobody's saying that challenge isn't fun. But when you primarily focus so much on the challenge factor alone, that you neglect the "fun" part, that essentially ruins the whole point. The people who made this game clearly weren't thinking of that.
Ditto.
More One Piece 'We Are' instrumental for the 'next time' part. Love it, Johnny!
11:43 - That outro music from One Piece of the Pre-Timeskip revives my good old days watching it! :D Nice touch!😁
For those of you who aren't in the know, the ending "next time" segment is a reference to One Piece, with the music being an instrumental of the show's first theme song, 'We Are.'
I beat this game for the GBA 4 years ago, I swear this game drove me insane and I beat it with Bass. I didn't want to even try to play with Megaman and I seriously felt like I did enough just by finishing it with Bass. I told myself that I'd never revisit this game to play it but I'll always revisit Johnny's review. I even took pictures of me finishing it, torturous memories to look back on.
I honest to god loved this game as a kid even though I had the GBA version. Heck its the game that got me into mega man.
Came here right after J's review lol and these 2 vids could not be more hot/cold
I revisited this video after watching J's review and rewatching Nico's evaluation. XD
About the outro, Ryan and Johnny used to have it in their old Sonic reviews, look at the older Sonic 1-K reviews and it's there.
I was considering getting this game on the Wii U eShop, but after seeing this review, I'm glad I saved a few dollars.
King Arthur I know I’m three years late, but this game isn’t bad. You just have to determined enough to beat it.
It's not a bad game but it is a bad Mega Man game.
I'm surprised Johnny didn't use his Censored Mode for this video.
Watching this in 2022, and was surprised how young you sound.
It makes since of course, but still caight me off gaurd at first.
No guys, neither of you should play Mega Man & Bass for Brainscratch, just make Ted do it.
cwooddirector how about I just take a random guy
No, have Lewis play it.
Ted likes Ghosts n' Goblins, he'll love this game.
darkstar100x Lewis is more innocent than ted so I say ted
IT'S KING'S FORTRESS
You guys didn't know that Tails' Doll is at 11:42 and at Johnny's computer from the bottom right!?
I love that throw back to "Month of Sonic 2" at the end there.
*****
Where Ryan was saying that "next time" stuff towards the end.
stinkydo0d I thought it was a reference to their BrainScratchCommentaries channel.
As Clement has said in one of his videos, many players (including me) have become so accustomed to playing as Mega Man that I completed MM & B with him but could never beat it with Bass.
*Sigh*... Mega Man and Bass. Where do I even start with this game? Let me just say that I believe that this was going to be a Bass only spin off game, but somewhere in development, someone suggested the idea of putting Mega Man in there, possibly for market value. I would be fine with this, except that Mega Man got the shitty end of the stick in this game. Playing this game several times like I do with every Mega Man game, I found myself enjoying this game less and less each time I played it, and that's mainly because of how bullshit the level design is in Mega Man's case. With the exception of Dynamo Man and the fight with King, Mega Man *really* has a disadvantage in this game, mainly due to the fact that the level design was not built for him, but rather for Bass. Tengu Man's stage is the prime example of this. Whereas Bass can double jump, aim in multiple directions, and make mincemeat out of Tengu Man, Mega Man has an incredibly hard time in the balloon rooms, the enemies that Mega Man can't shoot until they're at his level can pile up and dogpile him, and Tengu Man can be a major pain in the ass to fight. The only other advantage Mega Man has over Bass is the Charge Shot, which can make bosses go down fairly quickly, but Bass has an upgrade in his shop that allows him to make his shots stronger, so that doesn't matter much in the end. Out of all the stages in this game, Dynamo Man's stage is the only one I would say is the best designed, mainly because the stage isn't bullshit with both characters, and the mini boss as well as Dynamo Man himself outline Mega Man and Bass's strengths and weaknesses (Mega Man has an easier time than Dynamo Man while Bass has an easier time with the mini boss). Every other stage besides Cold Man's and Ground Man's stage can be an absolute hell hole for Mega Man and a cakewalk for Bass, which shows this game's biggest issue: The unbalanced nature. Selecting Mega Man is almost like being punished since this game was not built with him in mind. Speaking of that, I'll briefly go over what I think of Bass in this game: I like playing as him, especially how he's a mix of a Classic and X character with his more agile abilities such as his dash and double jump, but in the end, I prefer to play as Mega Man. Why? Well, it's because Bass can't move and shoot. I know this doesn't sound like a big deal and in the long run, it really isn't a major problem, but I prefer to be able to run and shoot at the same time.
But I haven't even gotten to the worst part of this game: King *FUCKING* Stage *2*. I cannot express in words how much I *loathe* this stage. The first part and the King Tank, while not the worst part, can still drag on for a while because of how stubborn the tank is attack. Sometimes, it won't open itself up for an attack. But that's nothing and I mean *NOTHING* compared to what I call the worst boss in Classic Mega Man history: King Plane. As Bass, this boss isn't too bad, in fact, it can be fun. As Mega Man... *sighs.* That fist... that *FUCKING* fist! I swear, if that fist lands on a platform that you were about to land on, you're good as fucked. The blinding attack isn't that big of an issue, and it's at least generous enough to give me life and weapon energy, but that fist just ruins the deal. It becomes purely luck based as Mega Man, and I hate luck based stuff in video games. The worst part is that if, and you most likely will, get a game over on this stage, you have to start *ALL* the way back from the *BEGINNING* of the stage. At that point, I'd just say fuck it and stop playing. It's design like that that makes me declare Mega Man and Bass as one of the worst Classic Mega Man games and the hardest besides Mega Man 1 and Mega Man World 3 (III on the Game Boy)... as Mega Man. As Bass, the hardest it gets for him is mildly annoying, and the game is fun as Bass, like really fun. It's why I can't completely hate this game, besides the fantastic soundtrack. Now that I've gotten the heavy stuff out of the way, I'll briefly go over what I think of the soundtrack and weapon system.
The soundtrack is awesome, in fact, it's one of my favorite Classic Mega Man soundtracks, with Cold Man's theme being my favorite track in the game. The weapon system is okay, with some weapons like the Magic Card, Lightning Bolt, and the Wave Burner being the best weapons, while the Copy Vision isn't too useful. I should also touch upon the fact that Tengu Man and Astro Man from Mega Man 8 are in this game. I would call it lazy, but their stages feel different enough from their Mega Man 8 stages, they give you different weapons, and they have new patterns to follow, so I'm glad that they were tweaked a bit from 8.
In the end, Mega Man and Bass is a game that I'm completely split towards. When it comes to Mega Man, I hate it, and call it one of the worst Classic series games. As Bass, while it's not outstanding, I can enjoy myself. If more stages were designed like Dynamo Man's stage, making the stage fair for both while making a boss or section more challenging depending on who you play as, then this game would have been great. Also, who the hell thought it was a good idea to release the GBA version on the Wii U Virtual Console? That port is awful, so play the Super Famicom version, at your own risk.
Seriously dude, if you can make stuff like this, im pretty sure you could do reviews or something like that. Also, everyone thinks it was Bass only spin-off when it started development
I clicked show more, and my jaw hit the fucking floor.
dude calm down its just a megaman game chill dude
I could read this all, and give an actual well thought out response, but I'm just gonna give you a like and call it good. This is the TH-cam comment section, not a 40 page essay.
Don't get it twisted, dude. That fist can very easily mess you up as Bass too. Keep in mind that Bass has less platforms to work with than Mega Man does. And if that fist wrecks the very platform you were trying to land on (especially if you've already used your double jump), well then...........
This looks like if Megaman 7 and 8 had a baby. This is literally the type of game to have PS1 graphics on the SNES.
I actually liked this game. But it's hard as FUCK, I'll give you that.
Leave Luck to Kevin Same! XDDD
***** But Super Mario Bros. 2 (JPN) is ridiculously easy.
teamnoah111 A.K.A, Doki Doki Panic.
***** A.K.A. I meant the one that only was released in Japan. You know, the one everyone claims is "ridiculously hard".
teamnoah111 Yeah I know. But last time I checked, it was called Doki Doki Panic in Japan, and it's called Super Mario Bros 2 in Europe and US.
Just saying.
They added the ghost n goblins music for mega man 7 and now the ghost n goblins difficulty for this game
Even though the game's difficulty is insane a lot of the times, I still for some reason enjoy playing it. Not to mention it has a really fine soundtrack. I say it's on par with Megaman 7 & 8, but personally out of all 3 I say this one is at top for being more memorable. Of course that's just me really.
Megaman & Bass: Because if Sonic & Knuckles can do it, so can we.
Woa I forgot how crazy this game is....I had it on the GBA after losing on Tengu man's stage with some catchy music...After picking Bass....I say Bass like the fish instead of Base but thats just me,
I dont recall it being this this insane it was a cake walk after a few fails
Trying to get all the CDs was a huge pain, but I loved the game! Spent most of 10th grade playing it off and on :)
I'm in 10th grade, and I just finished it!
....as megaman.....
yes, I did it with Megaman
Luna PrincessNinjato how? :O srsly, I can only beat this shit with bass and even then the game is nearly fucking impossible
6:15: The sheer anger in Johnny's voice.
Old video I get it but am I the only one who notices the weird background Johnny has at the end of the video at 11:40 ?
Hah, this game... This game is hard enough trying to play it normally, but perfect running it? Oh Man... I've watched two people who have done that and I was mindblowing. Seriously.
I'm legitimately amazed at how I beat the GBA version as both characters when I was 13. I can't play it for jack shit now. Still, its honestly one of my favourite MM games.
Have to agree this game is the embodyment of unforgiving! But for some reason the masochist in me enjoyed the trial and error approach, making it all the more satisfying to memorize all the shit the game throws at you, so you can finally give it a massive "fuck you!" back once you beat it! The cd collecting was coool as well and it has a lot of nods to the precursors in the series which is always appreciated! I like this installment in the franchise albeit it sucks that they didn't release it ouside of Japan in 1998 (but understandable as there was no market for new Snes games then in the west...)
when johnny does the "next time" bit he should use that voice he did in the SGB mario world run
Most viewed Mega Man SGB review is now 3 years old!
I just so happen to stumble upon it on it's 3rd birthday.
You forgot to talk about how Dynamo Man can fully heal himself. And how he has no weakness.
I thought Megaman & Bass was pretty standard from a difficulty standpoint. I didn't even really use the powerups or anything. Am I alone in thinking this?
+TeamTripleStar Uh...sarcasm, much?
John Bell no actually you aren't. Check out ExoParadigmGamers review.
I wonder why Capcom decided not to include Mega Man & Bass in Mega Man Legacy Collection 2? Perhaps it could be due to the game's difficulty, but that didn't stop Capcom from including Mega Man X6 (another notoriously difficult game in the Mega Man series) in Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2. Though, my best guess is that this isn't a numbered entry in the series, and was therefore ignored.
Yeah tbh I do prefer MM&B over X6, I know MM&B is not perfect but still my favorite in the series. at least the game was intended to be difficult and at least things are thought out well for the most part while X6 is Outright Bullshit. Mostly cuz of so much hazardous stage gimmicks and the nightmare system outright make the stages worse and also instances where you have no win scenarios.
Aka the game tells you to fuck off for not having the jumper part (gate stage 1) and get fucked for using the shadow armor without jumper and speedster parts (or do a very precise Giga attack, which tbh how are you supposed to know that) in gate stage 2 X’s section
8:54 "When I'm megaman, Eddie may drop some big energy pickups or he could just screw me over with these dinky things!" Superb and subtle joke man! Great video!
I may be late to this but at 11:42 anyone else notice the moniter background?
Piccolo: *hands Gohan Megaman & Bass*
Gohan: *Fights a boss*
Piccolo: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
Bass design is probably my favorite out of all Megaman and Megaman X
no one else noticed the tails doll on his screen during the last part of the video right before the "next time on" bit
I loved that ending. It reminded me of the classic Sonic reviews because of the music and Ryan's commentary.
It feels like Mega Man was a last minute addition to his own game here …
Only entry in the classic series that comes close in difficulty in this one is III on the Game Boy. And that one, you deal with the Game Boy physics and no Bass...
I honestly think the difficulty in MM & Bass is exaggerated online, but the level design of III on the Gameboy is just an unholy abomination
@@bulb9970 Having played both, I’d actually argue the opposite. Yes, III is HARD. But I honestly had more fun with it than & Bass…
I've watched this a few times before... Never knew Johnny was a One Piece fan.
Mega Man & Bass is ridiculous in the dumbest of ways. I played as Mega Man and beat Astro Man with just the Mega Buster, after several failed attempts. I noticed a lot of jumps and enemies assume you have Bass' abilities all right. I may try to finish it later.
The pic at 00:14 was designed by hitoshi ariga the creator of the megaman manga
It sounds like this should have been a Bass game with Megaman as an unlockable hard mode.
I love this game regardless of what people say about it LOL. I finished the game as MegaMan on my first playthrough!
This was the video I watched before our car crashed
4:16 John said"what pin head designed these stages", Patrick says"who you call'n pin head
I came back just for the nostalgia of watching old reviews, and I just learned that this game had a shop. So much of my time that could’ve been saved....
OH GOD I REMEMBER THIS VIDEO COMING OUT AND IT’S BEEN 6 YEARS!!!!!!!!
I wonder if he is going to do the X Series
***** Oh yes I tell ya he is going to rage like he did the sonic hero's specal stage
David Shadow Star (A.K.A David4jet)
As for Mega Man X6, Clement should be in the review as a guest!
Ivan Simpson in that case it's going to be more of a rant. Really clement bitched a lot about it in his Lp of x6.
Wait a min I just realized something Unless it was forgotten. In Johnny's review of ghost and goblins. I believe the tails doll would haunt johnny for one more game and if remember correctly Clement mentions the tails doll too. It could happen.
The X series?
OH HECK YES!!!
David Shadow Star (A.K.A David4jet) omfg, FUCK X7, that is like the M&B of the X series, omg that game is so fucking hard, thank god its not canon, yeah it goes from x6 to the zero series, x7 and x8 are both non canon and any games that are a prt of the X series after X7.
King Fortress 2 is now dominating SomeCallMeJohnny
Mega Man and Bass was SO! FUCKING! BRUTAL! I was never so very angry at a video game as much as this game. I almost went insane after I’ve beaten Bass’ Playthrough. I still have Mega Man’s Playthrough to do, (which I’m so not looking forward to) but I’m taking a very long break from that brutal as hell video game.
6:14 That's not all. If you were just fucking around in the room and were over top of the lava when the characters are going to go towards the middle to warp out... if you fall into the lava, you don't die, and are instead constantly trying to walk right to exit the stage, meaning you've pretty much softlocked yourself.
It's such an easy softlock to do... which makes me wonder why it even existed.
Come on Johnny, that extra bit of challenge makes completion all the more worthwhile!
They should have included Mega Man & Bass 1 and 2 in the legacy collection 2. That would make 6 games for each collection.
I love these videos but the weird "friends" make it awkward. Only Johnny seems to have any charisma on the screen, the other people are pretty terrible.
What about clement?
skudzer1985 why the quotes around "friends"? Are you saying they aren't actually friends?
I liked the game
somebody save that reply and use this in a video review.
***** That's the exact reason I ENJOY BSC. They make jokes while also getting into extremely critical discussion. I find their videos very relaxing. I personally don't enjoy SGB as much, it just feels like any other Let's Play channel for me. Idk, maybe I've just watched too many let's plays and I've grown jaded?
johnny u kinda missed out on the wonderswan rockman and forte 2 look it up on the wiki i dint even know about it untill i looked around on the wiki till i found it
A few days ago, Johnny had a Twitch livestream. Unfortunately, I didn't watch it. It probably told us when he will upload it, but who knows? Before it started, he Tweeted that it will feature a channel update, probably had the date. I will contract him on Twitter to ask him about is going on. I'll tell you guys if he replies to me. I will see you guys than.
5:19 the Yoku Blocks didn't start getting difficult to navigate until Mega Man 4
I'm like the one guy that loved this game.
I like this game too.
It has flaws, but I do enjoy it quite a bit
Exo and tgx made reviews and enjoyed it
I just realized this now:
The GBA port of this game came out to celebrate Mega Man's 15th anniversary.
Mega Man X7 was made at the same time as well.
Mega Man Network Transmission, too...
Mega Man X7 is the Sonic 06 of Mega Man.
The GBA port of MM&B is the Sonic Genesis of Mega Man.
Network Transmission is Sonic Riders.
So, Network Transmission is the BEST of the three?
@@jrpludacrous Probably.
Mother of God...
Battle Network blue/white vanilla version/ Black Version Mega Man Battle Network
The game can be real insane in alot of instances yes, but as a collectathon, MM&B was the game that really got me interested in the Classic Series. May not be perfect but it was fun none the less and I'd rank it in my top 3 Classic MM games. (And yes, I played the gba version.)
I like the snippets of the Archie comic you used in this.
Hurry up with the final review John, it needs to be the moment we've all been waiting 4! I am not waiting until Monday again!
I loved this review man. Megaman has been one of my favorite capcom titles. althought i've never played the really old versions. I think I started with Megaman & Bass which is sad cause I enjoyed it but did think it was really tough. the only cool part to me was the music, bass, and the fact that I could smash ass on the bosses again with my powerups. Keep on keepin on this was both funny and informative.
This game is the X6 of the classic series.
Johnny likes X6
SuperLemonadeGamer He does?
I remember him saying X6 isn't that bad, but I don't think he ever said he liked X6.
***** He said in the BSC X3 playthrough that he prefers X6 to X3. Which is just heresy to a high degree.
***** I'm the only one who has X6 as my second favorite in the X series (which is strange, I know )
***** Seriously, this game could use the hate. It's just plain awful
Megaman and Bass maybe hard but it's one of my favorite Megaman games of all time
That awkawrd moment that you realize that they decide to make unnaccesible all stages, because you need the weapons to defeat the bosses, as a matter of fact you can kill Burnerman in 14 seconds using Ice Wall.
To think that this translation was done prior to the GBA version and it's not only BETTER than that translation but it also is so good it seems official. Megaman acually has a pretty nice fanbase. Unlike a certain other blue dude.
I don't care what ANYONE says, Burner Man isn't the worst Robot Master in this game. That award for bullshit difficulty goes to Magic Man! I HATE that bucket of bolts and scrap metal!
Ethan Ciotti I really like burner man.
He has a cool design, an interesting fight and his weapon the Wave burner is really useful.
If you have his weakness he is a cinch.
Burner Man is honestly an easy fight either way all you have to do is stand at the very edge and jump when he dashes at you . You might take like, a couplehits but you wont die and just follow him after pushing the ice pretty simple. MAGIC MAN is the worst god damn boss in this game next to Dynamo Man.
Agreed, burner man is annoying but magic man and dynamo man can get a screwdriver shoved up their asses
I’m just gonna say it.
If the game is designed around Bass, then why can Bass’ movesett downright skip chunks of the levels while MM have actually have to go through them?
As Dr. Light would say. " That's an good question. "
I played the GBA port as MegaMan all the way through. Can't say that I had as much trouble as you did with the game, but the screen crunch certainly explains a lot of the game's visual quirks.
I don't know why but I always come back to this review.
near the start, u said the Green Devil is from Megaman 7 , u meant 8. Thanks for doing this video, this is one of my fav games
Late, late reply but he was talking about the Robot Museum from Mega Man 7 not the Green Devil