So far it has been...for the most part! There are a couple things I have identified that I am not totally satisfied with. I should have the full review on it coming out in the next couple weeks. Thanks for comment, glad it gave you a new idea.
I am a relatively new subscriber. Wish to extend a compliment on your monologue skills. You hold be captive with your enthusiasm and delivery without too many "ah" pauses. Wish you much good luck with your build, and lets hope the CFmoto proves to be a reliable purchase. Nothing worse than a couple of bad break downs that will leave you with buyers remorse. Keep up with the great videos.
Wow, thank you so much for the compliment and feedback. I truly appreciate that! I hear you on the buyer's remorse! Hopefully it turns out to be a successful build. If not..at least I will be able to provide that feedback to others, so either way I will still be able to provide some value from the whole thing. But let's be honest...I would much rather see it be a big success!
The bush guard, windshield and canopy make a huge difference, too. Once your stock windshield gets all scratchy and almost impossible to see through, polish the whole windshield with deet and your windshield will be like new again. I’m interested in getting the full enclosure with the heater and windshield wipers. Canadian winters are mighty cold. I have the 2017 UForce 800 eps.
The CVT clutch on what you have is a liquid cooled clutch when you are stopped it is spinning in a coolant while the bill is still fully connected therefore the wear and tear of engaging does not occur. Causing the belts to have probably about a 300% better life
The jerky take off in forward and reverse is very common on the U800. We have swapped in the CDI from a Z800 with great results. Little to no hesitation on takeoff. Located behind the driver seat. Good luck with the build.
Thanks for the tip! Just swapping out the CDI alone fixed your issue? That's crazy, I was planning on a new belt (which I will probably get anyway) and re-weighting the clutch. This is a much easier option, thanks for the heads up.
I have a '17 U800 thought I bought because I desperately needed something I could use to plow a long driveway and to work around our 30 acres, but I didn't want to break the bank. This machine fit the bill because it came with a lot of features at a good price. Overall I am happy with it but have a few things I don't like. The first thing I noticed was the ride was terrible, which I knew it wouldn't be the best because the shocks weren't fully adjustable - preload only. I ended up moving the preload adjustment from the first position to the fourth position (more firm) and it was quite a bit better. But I think I am going to get a set of Elka fully adjustable shocks for it, I think this would make it a much more enjoyable machine. A second gripe is that I have noticed a whining noise I think is coming from the rear differential. If you read on the CFMoto forum, I'm not alone in this problem and I plan on returning to the dealer to have them give it a listen. Hopefully, that is something that will be taken care of under warranty. If I get those two things taken care of I think I will be much happier with my Uforce 800. I do have the same issues as Dan Brownfield, like heat from the center console and hesitation on start but am willing to deal with those considering what I paid for the machine. Good luck with the build, I will be following because I would love to learn what changes or additions work for you!
Thanks for the detailed feedback Curt! I can't say I have noticed any whining on this one, but can relate when it comes to the shocks. I looked at getting Elka shocks a while ago but they don't make them for the 18. Although that was a while ago, so I should look again. Have had zero luck on getting it lifted! Just recently started to reach out to custom fabricators in hopes to get someone to design something. That's towards the top of initial things to complete for the build, so hopefully we will get it squared away after the holidays.
I feel like people kind of sleep on the Cfmoto’s, lots of people are obsessed with the big 4 and aren’t really into trying anything else, so I’m interested in what you will do with it and I can’t wait for the rest of the series! Keep up the great vids!
I have a '15 and pleased with it. The floor drain hole i found bad when i first went through a deep puddle water came up and shouldn't have been waring sneakers lol. I had rubber oil line come apart and lost my engine. There is an upgrade kit i would hope newer units would have this installed. The warranty looked after the cost of the rebuild. I use mine to plow my drive way and it has no problem handling 3 or 4 foot wing row from the municipality.
@@NavigateOffroad I am looking at buying a CF Moto 800 UForce thus week. I see it on the Alibaba app. Is this a reliable way to buy this item? Saw your post is a year old. Are you still happy with your purchase?
I have a 2016 500 ZForce . I’ve had it for a year and no issues. I would recommend Cfmoto to anybody who wants a reliable sidexside without the big price tag.
Id love an in depth comparison between your experience with the polaris rzr vs the uforce. Ride comfort, suspension, off road capability, performance and so on.
I’ve not liked the slow speed jerkiness of the UForce either. I’ve read in a few places it’s an ECM issue. Many have said that buying the ECM for the ZForce 800 for about $300 takes care of the jerkiness. Crazy, you’d think CFMoto would just reprogram their UForce 800 ECM’s. Overall I like mine. I’ve added the roof and LED lights.
That's what I'm saying!! Lol. It drives me crazy how they have not seemed to address it. I've heard the same thing, but asking people to pay 300 for an issue as simple as this is pretty unacceptable from a consumer perspective.
Honestly I never heard of CF Moto until a couble weeks ago, but I'd be opened to try one out. I work at a Polaris store, but I like to stay opened to other brands.
I have an '17 U800 in camo. Use it primarily for hunting. Loving it. Heat is an issue from the center console. Summer was miserable in Oklahoma. Stock it has plenty of power for my 300 lbs. The jerkyness on start is problematic when trying to smooth start because of the cargo. I've been told that the ECU out of a ZForce will smooth it out. Some higher doors would be nice, but the only thing I've found is $650...dont need them that bad...Have fun with your build.
Thanks for your Input! I honestly have not noticed any issues with the heat coming from the center console, but then again we are not anywhere near Oklahoma! I've heard the same thing about the ECU..but that just seems ridiculous. Quite honestly though, I may consider it. Still looking into a few options to try and figure out what's best and pass it along. As for the doors...well all accessories, I'm really hoping more options start to come out as the CFMOTO line continues to grow in popularity.
Dan I noticed that as well in my ‘17. I bought some insulating sheeting on Amazon and lined the underside of my center console. It helped a lot. It’s tough with the front cylinder being right below the center console.
So you're a year in with the CF Moto, been through every season. What are your opinions / thoughts on it now? I've been watching these machines for about 1.5 years now and I'm ready to buy. Would you buy it again if given the chance? Pro's? Cons? I look forward to your responce, New subscriber here, awesome channel!
Thanks for the in depth response, Tee. A year in and I still think they are good machines. The more time I spend around the CFMOTO brand the more I am actually convinced they are good machines. The jerky start still pisses me off and something that we are going to try and fix with a different belt. We had. Little bit of a water issue with it getting in the dash, but other than that it has been a solid machine. As for if we would buy again..hard to say. Not because I think there is something wrong with it, I just really like testing out different machines 😆 Overall though, it has exceeded out expectations. Especially when you account for the price and what you get!
I have a 2019 UForce 500 very similar to you’res and I am loving it so far! I had to get an emissions issue taken care of under warranty because it would refuse to start after getting it hot. Very minor issue but other than that I Love it. I did have the dealer do the valve clearance adjustment. Do you think it is necessary? I’m not sure but I had it done and it runs great
The fact that you sold the Polaris and bought the cfmoto is actually a very smart move considering the price ☝️those guys are well known in Europe and the design of this machine it’s the best among the utv/sxs today,so yea...one thing that I would immediately do is a long travel suspension,those are some beefy tires but to Narrow in my opinion or I should say to my taste...and that button that you don’t know what it is I think it is for a faster speed on reverse.
Thanks for the comment Stelian! Appreciate the feedback. If you have any ideas on where to get a good long travel suspension kit for it please let me know! I've been struggling to find good quality parts for this beast.
I bought a new non current 2017 UForce 800 this past May and so far it's been excellent. Works hard, fun, fast enough for me(approx. 60-65mph), and most importantly; trouble free! (5yr limited warrantee and 1 year bumper to bumper in Canada) I bought it because my 2012 RZR800 was in the shop more than on the trail. Here in Canada I opted for the Full Hard Cab option with heater, wiper, and washer; all through CFMoto. Ended up buying an Iron Baltic full skid plate, a gun rack, stereo, and some reverse lights. I'd LOVE to hear more about a proper lift kit for this unit, not just the coil spring spacers. Tire sizes on the stock 14" wheels also interest me. Thanks for your video, I'm sure you'll enjoy your UForce and I look forward to seeing your build!
Thanks for the comment and input! Glad to hear you are still loving yours. That warranty offered up there in Canada on CF Motos is awesome, too bad that's not standard here! Hows that heater working out? I'm going to be wishing for that in winter when I'm hitting the snowy trails or plowing the driveway 😆
I have a 2011 Polaris Rzr 800s and a 2017 Polaris General 1000 both are great machines and the rzr has close to 4K miles on it the General only has close to 1k miles but I love both and have no problems the only thing about the General is it bucks at low speeds but the rzr doesn’t do it for some reason I think the transmission is different but I love both the machines
So we never actually put a roof or windshield on this, but I'd you go to cfmotousa.com you can actually look at accessories and I believe they have a few images of roofs and windshields on the machines. Hope that helps!
I love my c.f. moto. I have a 15 800 z-forcs. I have had it for about a year now. C.F. Moto's I think are a well built machines. And my wife and I are looking at getting another one.( Since they don't make a 4 setter.) Maybe my wife will let me get the new 1000 that they came out with. LoL.
Hey that's awesome! Thanks for the feedback. The more I dig into CF Moto, the more I hear from their owners they are well liked...I guess you could probably say that with most big ATV companies though. If you get the 1000, let me know how it runs! I just ran into one on the trail the other day, they seem like awesome machines.
i have a new 2022 uforce 800 the cabin heat is very high you cant leave a drink in the cup holder for long also the engine noise i above other brands any ideas on how to mi mise these issues adding a heat shield is some what complicated behind the seats!
That button on the dash is an over ride for the full lockup.In full lockup,there's a rmp limiter,but if your in a bad hole and want the power and speed to blast threw it,hit that switch.
I think you might be one of the first people to get that right! I went and looked it up after the video and learned that. Many people have comment since then though, and most of them have gotten it wrong. Thanks for your input.
Did not see this mentioned, but can this be licensed and driven on the street? It looks to have horn,mirrors,turn signals,high and low beams and break lights
Good question, Gene. It cannot be licensed as a car and driven on the streets. However, many places allow UTVs (especially with the appropriate equipment such as turn signals and brake lights) to be used on their streets. Beat thing to do would call your local government, or try to look up a map on google of authorized roads in your area.
This appears to compete with the Yamaha Wolverine and Can Am Commander, both of which have dump boxes, two bucket seats, and better suspension than other utility models.
Agreed. It is a direct competitor. I would say that where it would win is what you get for the price. For example, do I think the Wolverine has a better clutching setup, absolutely. However the price tag of the Wolverine and what you get for that price is much higher. So there is definitely give and take. Which utility UTV would you go with?
There are many positives, if something were to happen to it your home owners insurance will cover it as it can be used for work around the house. CF Moto has been around for over 25 years. There HP ratings are measured to the rear wheels instead of off the fly wheel. I looked at the Z Force 1000, and was shocked. Nice machine and loaded for around 13000. Really nice. I noticed the boys at Dirt Trax really gave them a good review. They love them. Warranty is pretty awsome. People just need to do there home work. Check out the 1000 z force. Elka shocks, stainless steel exhaust and the list goes on and on
Thanks for your input, Terry. These machines are a great option for many people. Just to clear the air though, I have personally verified with CFMOTO that they do in fact measure hp at the crank like other companies (not at the wheels). I don't know how this rumor got started, and I too thought it was the case for the longest time. I only learned otherwise recently when talking with one of my CFMOTO contacts.
Show me where they measures HP at the rear wheels. If you come thru, cool. If not, you made it up. I'm a very happy Can Am owner. Zero problems and I live where we can actually use them. I am considering adding a CFmoto to my garage because the Can Am is big. I need a smaller machine for the tight mountain trails. The CFmoto 1000 does NOT put 80hp to the ground. If you believe it, you're a sucker. I'm contacting CFmoto. Also, the shocks are NOT Elko. Quit spreading false information.
@@TheBandit7613 I'm sorry Chris I got some incorrect information which I heard right here on thi sight. He did send me a message that it was incorrect information. He talked to the reps to verify. I'm sorry and you have a great machine. I have a new Grizzly myself that I love but i'm considering buying a Mavrick trail, just don't know if I'm ready to quit riding and start driving. At my old age it may be better. Don't know
@@terrytesh391 I'm sorry I came off cranky. It's not normally me. Despite it all, cfmoto is good enough to stand on it's own. I'm going to look Saturday.
Check out the other CFMOTO reviews on our channel. Maybe they will help? Like every other brand, they do have some downsized but everyone company does. Overall I think they are great options to consider. Gooduck and let me know what you decide to do!!
Bought a 2021 uforce800. Faster than the uforce 1000 up to 100km/h. Very impresive machine. Other than all side b side are noisy and warm lol the seat belts are locking up randomly. I think the seat belts are the only bad issue. The next upgrade would be ajusting the suspension better or upgrading the suspension maybe if not, impressive machine literaly.
Hello from the near east side of Madison. I considering buying a side by side. Do you know if madcity powers sister store in Richland center services CFmoto? Excellent video quality!!
Its not cvt clutch bro it's CV tech. And it's a good clutch depending on how it's weighted. It's still a cvt clutch like a Polaris just made by CV tech .
Hey thanks for the correction man. I should have said CV Tech clutch. Good to hear your thoughts. I still have some research to do on them. Like I said in the video, I have never had one and dont really dont know much about them.
Thanks for the feedback! I have not noticed that the center console area getting hot, I will have to pay attention to that next time I am in it. Good to know the Canadain model comes with the turn signals and flashers! Can you guys legally drive UTV's on pretty much any street? In America, it has to be designated an "ATV Route".
oh ok. Well that's a bummer around you. We have certain roads that can, and certain roads you can't. In generally you cannot, but they are starting to make a lot of roads "ATV Routes".
It's not a provincial regulation, it's municipal bylaws that allow it. Lots of small communities as well as some larger towns/cities allow use of ATVs and SxS on the roads, or on certain roads. There are plenty around where I live in Ontario. Mostly where ATV driven tourism is a thing, they eventually realize it's a positive thing to allow the use on their roads.
oh ok, that sounds pretty similiar to here in America then. It does lead me to wonder then why they have the flashers included in the Canadian model and not the American model.
Hey Thanks Derryl, I appreciate the support. If you end up getting one next year let me know! I just want to do a couple more rides on this (need to get it in some thick mud) and then I should have the full review out.
If you call John Hester at Hester motorsports in rat tone New Mexico. He specializes in CF moto and very knowledgeable. CF moto is the only company that deinos their engine. All other manufacturers measure horsepower at the crank. CF moto 800 produces 3 horsepower less than the 900 can am.. John Hester has a 3" lift kit that will take a 30" tire including a programmer Where is a great exhaust and I believe he has a cat delete system. I really enjoy your show to see out on the trail one day
This is false, they are rated at the crank just like everyone else. EVO has dyno'd RZR's and they loose about 28% from the crank to the wheels. Are you saying that an SOHC 800cc Chinese motor makes 89HP at the crank? You've got to be kidding yourself that they would hamstring themselves by rating their vehicles with WHP when everyone else does at the crank especially since they use a CVT. This is outright lie.
@@sidewinderdesigns8889 would you kindly show me where cfmoto has claimed this is WHP. This is a common rumor spread by cfmoto fanboys. Even better show me a dyno, I bet their numbers are even lower than they advertise.
@@KriegerKrieg On TH-cam you can check out Hester motorsports. com. Hester will allow you to call him and get the information from him he is an engineer. I called CF moto and it's some background checks including 3 dealerships that sell them and specialize in after market products for that. I was shocked to find out and sort it euro tated that the engine in my Honda was a CF moto produced engine they produced engines for a long time and then got into the UTV and a TV market they also produce engines for KTM products and a couple other major manufacturers. Producing engines and transmissions and perfecting them is what see if moto was originally about. They claim all their engines are dinos at the wheel not at the crank. All the manufacturers at modify products forum including John Hester which is an engineer and raced.
Can you make a video of it going on trails? And going in water don't be afriad to hit the water hard. I was with a. Cf moto yesterday went in a bit of water and belt got wet right away.
For sure, and thank you for the input. I am going to get a full review out in about a month, but I wanted more time behind the wheel first. I will make sure to get some shots of it going through water and let you know how it performs. Thanks for the input on what you want to see.
Midwest ATV thanks for the quick response on both questions. In planning on buying one this winter if it preforms well, in also happy it has tilt steering that would have been a no to me if it didn't (the small things count). Can't wait to to see that review.
I hear you about the small things. My wife is not short, which always made her stretch some when driving the RZR. The UForce has an adjustable seat! Works amazing for her. The review should be out soon. Took it out on the trail a couple times but I really want to get it in some thick mud before calling it "good". Thanks for the support, and let me know if you end up getting one this winter!
Love the thoughts of a new zforce 800 trail. Subbed. Be more than happy to take this voyage w/u . Our group is all canned hams and polar asses but we see cfmoto up and coming. Same boat your in, how do i bring the kids ? The wife ? Im waiting but i think by this time next year.....
😁👍 Thanks for subscribing, I really appreciate that! Hopefully we will have some stuff coming out on the Uforce soon in regards to its build. It has been pretty hard to find good parts for it. One thing we have learned...the aftermarket market (yes I realize I just said market twice in a row 😆) is pretty lacking for CFMOTO's.
That's actually been a common guess Michael but that's actually not correct. I looked it up in the manual after the video (as I clearly didn't know either) and its a 4WD-Lock override switch. When in 4WD-Lock the speed is limited. This allows you to give it more power if necessary.
Hey thanks for Subing Ryan! Nothing really wrong with the RZR, it was a great machine. Just decided it was time to try something else (and bigger). The CF Moto seemed like a good option because there is still a lot less awareness and information on them. So I wanted to be able to provide that value to others, and learn more about them myself. Plus we ride a lot, and wanted to try a machine where we could bring the dog with....which will hopefully work out.
Midwest ATV looking forward to see what you do with it. I like the Z-force too but my knees get killed in the dash. Plus you are right with the dog aspect. My shepherd goes everywhere with me. It would be cool to have him come on rides.
Nice video! i got a cf moto racher 500-3 utv from 2009. bought it last year and have run it 3000 kilometers or like 4000 miles? i am from sweden so my english are not the best. one thing i have the most issue with is that reverse have the same ratio as the H forward so if you drive on Low and get stuck in like snow there is a problem to reverse. but maybe it is because of the not so strong enginge. 500cc and like 20hk. how is does new u force that way? how fast is the topspeed? //Martin
It's not too bad. The heat is noticeable but not extreme by any means. In fact, I would say it is probably less than with similar SxS's such as the Ranger. The engine is placed down enough and partially behind the seats in a way that as long as you are moving the heat mostly gets pushed behind you. I suppose if you enclosed the cab though you would notice it more...but again, it has not been that "uncomfortably hot" that some machines get.
Actually I’m not gonna read the comments I think he probably already know I didn’t realize this video with Tate back in July but I’m going to finish this video and I have my own two cents
You are speaking like there is a huge after market for parts and accessories , I will say I have read some articles giving CFMoto A thumbs up, but that being said as for me, most things put out buy writers are normally written buy guys that I really don’t put in my real man category ! Please put it through some real trail test, it’s way to clean at this point for me to put any stock in your video😀😎
Ted, we have put this through some real tests. This video was an initial walk-around as mentioned in the video man...there were follow up videos after reviewing the machine 👍
I live out in Newman Lake Washington which is a suburb of Spokane Washington and Coeur d’ Alene Idaho actually my main shop is actually in the state of Idaho we are right on the border but our house is on Washington side why does this matter on the Idaho side I can drive my machine in the city and through town as long is the maximum speed limit is not over 55 or on the interstate because I’m curious if anybody knows a vendor or knows how to get The factory blinkers for CF Moto I had my blinker switch as far as I understand the United States is the only country where the blinkers are not installed I know that they are in Canada my current dealer they just want to have me do after market extra wiring blah blah blah I don’t want that I would love to have the factory ones they would fit right in so if anybody knows how or where to get factory blinkers please let me know I haven’t tried that hard but I have done some searches and haven’t gotten much Biggest thing is we on a beach house west of the Cascades at in Long Beach Washington and these things are street legal as long as they have a full blank your system using hand signals won’t cut it so I would like to get that figured out before next summer
I don't blame you for not wanting to do a random job with extra wiring. It's already there, why add more?! Unfortunately I do not have a specific source to recommend. Hopefully someone else here can help you out. I would think there is an ATV company in Canada you could order them through if nothing else?
Who cares what the trolls say bro... That's a beautiful machine. What these uneducated clowns don't realize is all these "name brands" get their machines made by outside companies also. They are, for the most part, all the same... (i.e. Massimo and Yamaha are identical machines. Yamaha is about $3000 more.)
😆 Thanks for the comment and input Showgun! If people have justifiable arguments or experience, I love to have discussions about machinea/differences. However a lot of negative feedback seems to come from a denial based simply on the name brand. I suppose that's normal for many things in life though...
Nice video man, way to rep CFMoto. I bought 2x CFMoto ZForce 500s this year and really like them. Check out my review if you're interested. I am interested in picking up a UForce 500 or 800 soon as well. I really like them! Overall, how has it been? They all have 5 year warranties here in Canada!
Thanks! Overall, it has been a great machine. A few things I do not like on it but overall, we are pretty impressed with it. Glad to hear the Zforce is working out for you. I am hoping to get a little wheel time on the new Zforce 1000 soon. I am curious what type of unch that will have.
Thanks for the tip! I was thinking about it when editing the video, and thats the thought I had as well...never ended up looking it up in the manual, ha!
I own a 2015 Uforce 800. The thing is junk, have soo many problems with it. Master brake cylinder failing,blown engine. Just had to buy a full brake caliper for one screw. A lot of the parts are near impossible to find and no one will service them.DO NOT BUY A CFMOTO
look into what It would cost for an out side company to fabricate a full enclosed cab. search on line for heater, you put in your side x side. @@NavigateOffroad
Yea I have actually. It's pretty expensive! Especially because most of the year I wouldn't want an enclosed cab (just not really a fan of it feeling like a car). So then it's a ton of money to have taking up space in the garage you know what I mean?
Are still happy with your purchase, I'm thinking about buying one,I like everything about one!
Thanks John
Thanks for the video. I never heard of CFMoto and trying to educate myself on them. So far they look like a great machine.
So far it has been...for the most part! There are a couple things I have identified that I am not totally satisfied with. I should have the full review on it coming out in the next couple weeks.
Thanks for comment, glad it gave you a new idea.
I am a relatively new subscriber. Wish to extend a compliment on your monologue skills. You hold be captive with your enthusiasm and delivery without too many "ah" pauses. Wish you much good luck with your build, and lets hope the CFmoto
proves to be a reliable purchase. Nothing worse than a couple of bad break downs that will leave you with buyers remorse. Keep up with the great videos.
Wow, thank you so much for the compliment and feedback. I truly appreciate that!
I hear you on the buyer's remorse! Hopefully it turns out to be a successful build. If not..at least I will be able to provide that feedback to others, so either way I will still be able to provide some value from the whole thing. But let's be honest...I would much rather see it be a big success!
The bush guard, windshield and canopy make a huge difference, too. Once your stock windshield gets all scratchy and almost impossible to see through, polish the whole windshield with deet and your windshield will be like new again. I’m interested in getting the full enclosure with the heater and windshield wipers. Canadian winters are mighty cold. I have the 2017 UForce 800 eps.
The CVT clutch on what you have is a liquid cooled clutch when you are stopped it is spinning in a coolant while the bill is still fully connected therefore the wear and tear of engaging does not occur. Causing the belts to have probably about a 300% better life
It's part of the engine and is oiled by the engine, not coolant.
Man, the misinformation is rampant with CFmoto.
Just got uforce 800, got 6 miles on it. Looking forward to your review.
Awesome, congrats! How are you liking it so far?
Review just went up today! Would love to hear your thoughts.
Navigate Offroad it broke the next day never got CF again only Polaris
The jerky take off in forward and reverse is very common on the U800. We have swapped in the CDI from a Z800 with great results. Little to no hesitation on takeoff. Located behind the driver seat. Good luck with the build.
Thanks for the tip! Just swapping out the CDI alone fixed your issue? That's crazy, I was planning on a new belt (which I will probably get anyway) and re-weighting the clutch. This is a much easier option, thanks for the heads up.
cfmoto zforce 800 ex appears to be the best machine I've owned in about 20 years, all Polaris before hand, live in northern Maine, not easy on them
I have a '17 U800 thought I bought because I desperately needed something I could use to plow a long driveway and to work around our 30 acres, but I didn't want to break the bank. This machine fit the bill because it came with a lot of features at a good price. Overall I am happy with it but have a few things I don't like. The first thing I noticed was the ride was terrible, which I knew it wouldn't be the best because the shocks weren't fully adjustable - preload only. I ended up moving the preload adjustment from the first position to the fourth position (more firm) and it was quite a bit better. But I think I am going to get a set of Elka fully adjustable shocks for it, I think this would make it a much more enjoyable machine. A second gripe is that I have noticed a whining noise I think is coming from the rear differential. If you read on the CFMoto forum, I'm not alone in this problem and I plan on returning to the dealer to have them give it a listen. Hopefully, that is something that will be taken care of under warranty. If I get those two things taken care of I think I will be much happier with my Uforce 800. I do have the same issues as Dan Brownfield, like heat from the center console and hesitation on start but am willing to deal with those considering what I paid for the machine. Good luck with the build, I will be following because I would love to learn what changes or additions work for you!
Thanks for the detailed feedback Curt! I can't say I have noticed any whining on this one, but can relate when it comes to the shocks. I looked at getting Elka shocks a while ago but they don't make them for the 18. Although that was a while ago, so I should look again.
Have had zero luck on getting it lifted! Just recently started to reach out to custom fabricators in hopes to get someone to design something. That's towards the top of initial things to complete for the build, so hopefully we will get it squared away after the holidays.
I feel like people kind of sleep on the Cfmoto’s, lots of people are obsessed with the big 4 and aren’t really into trying anything else, so I’m interested in what you will do with it and I can’t wait for the rest of the series! Keep up the great vids!
I agree, and appreciate your comment. Thanks a lot, I'm excited to see what comes of this machine.
I have a '15 and pleased with it. The floor drain hole i found bad when i first went through a deep puddle water came up and shouldn't have been waring sneakers lol. I had rubber oil line come apart and lost my engine. There is an upgrade kit i would hope newer units would have this installed. The warranty looked after the cost of the rebuild. I use mine to plow my drive way and it has no problem handling 3 or 4 foot wing row from the municipality.
Thanks for the input and experience. Terrible that you had issues with it like that but glad to see CFMOTO took care of it all for you!
Definitely going to keep watching now c.f. moto great machines keep it up
Hey thanks a lot, I really appreciate that!
@@NavigateOffroad I am looking at buying a CF Moto 800 UForce thus week. I see it on the Alibaba app. Is this a reliable way to buy this item? Saw your post is a year old. Are you still happy with your purchase?
I have a 2016 500 ZForce . I’ve had it for a year and no issues. I would recommend Cfmoto to anybody who wants a reliable sidexside without the big price tag.
That's awesome! Thanks for the feedback, Scott.
Id love an in depth comparison between your experience with the polaris rzr vs the uforce. Ride comfort, suspension, off road capability, performance and so on.
That's a great! Thanks for the input Trimasi.
trimasi basically UFORCE sucks and Polaris is the best
I’ve not liked the slow speed jerkiness of the UForce either. I’ve read in a few places it’s an ECM issue. Many have said that buying the ECM for the ZForce 800 for about $300 takes care of the jerkiness. Crazy, you’d think CFMoto would just reprogram their UForce 800 ECM’s.
Overall I like mine. I’ve added the roof and LED lights.
That's what I'm saying!! Lol. It drives me crazy how they have not seemed to address it. I've heard the same thing, but asking people to pay 300 for an issue as simple as this is pretty unacceptable from a consumer perspective.
I’m really only interested in the smoothness of the motor and suspension calibration. Those are the two things that determine refinement to me.
Honestly I never heard of CF Moto until a couble weeks ago, but I'd be opened to try one out. I work at a Polaris store, but I like to stay opened to other brands.
I have an '17 U800 in camo. Use it primarily for hunting. Loving it. Heat is an issue from the center console. Summer was miserable in Oklahoma. Stock it has plenty of power for my 300 lbs. The jerkyness on start is problematic when trying to smooth start because of the cargo. I've been told that the ECU out of a ZForce will smooth it out. Some higher doors would be nice, but the only thing I've found is $650...dont need them that bad...Have fun with your build.
Thanks for your Input! I honestly have not noticed any issues with the heat coming from the center console, but then again we are not anywhere near Oklahoma!
I've heard the same thing about the ECU..but that just seems ridiculous. Quite honestly though, I may consider it. Still looking into a few options to try and figure out what's best and pass it along.
As for the doors...well all accessories, I'm really hoping more options start to come out as the CFMOTO line continues to grow in popularity.
Dan I noticed that as well in my ‘17. I bought some insulating sheeting on Amazon and lined the underside of my center console. It helped a lot. It’s tough with the front cylinder being right below the center console.
That's a good idea! Thanks for the tip. I will have to keep this in mind if we ever start to notice heat issues in that area.
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So you're a year in with the CF Moto, been through every season. What are your opinions / thoughts on it now? I've been watching these machines for about 1.5 years now and I'm ready to buy. Would you buy it again if given the chance? Pro's? Cons? I look forward to your responce, New subscriber here, awesome channel!
Thanks for the in depth response, Tee.
A year in and I still think they are good machines. The more time I spend around the CFMOTO brand the more I am actually convinced they are good machines. The jerky start still pisses me off and something that we are going to try and fix with a different belt. We had. Little bit of a water issue with it getting in the dash, but other than that it has been a solid machine.
As for if we would buy again..hard to say. Not because I think there is something wrong with it, I just really like testing out different machines 😆
Overall though, it has exceeded out expectations. Especially when you account for the price and what you get!
got the u-force 500 8mons,2000km+ and no problems yet!
I have a 2019 UForce 500 very similar to you’res and I am loving it so far! I had to get an emissions issue taken care of under warranty because it would refuse to start after getting it hot. Very minor issue but other than that I Love it. I did have the dealer do the valve clearance adjustment. Do you think it is necessary? I’m not sure but I had it done and it runs great
I sold my Polaris Sportsman 700 and bought I CFMOTO 600 touring love it
The fact that you sold the Polaris and bought the cfmoto is actually a very smart move considering the price ☝️those guys are well known in Europe and the design of this machine it’s the best among the utv/sxs today,so yea...one thing that I would immediately do is a long travel suspension,those are some beefy tires but to Narrow in my opinion or I should say to my taste...and that button that you don’t know what it is I think it is for a faster speed on reverse.
Thanks for the comment Stelian! Appreciate the feedback.
If you have any ideas on where to get a good long travel suspension kit for it please let me know! I've been struggling to find good quality parts for this beast.
I bought a new non current 2017 UForce 800 this past May and so far it's been excellent. Works hard, fun, fast enough for me(approx. 60-65mph), and most importantly; trouble free! (5yr limited warrantee and 1 year bumper to bumper in Canada) I bought it because my 2012 RZR800 was in the shop more than on the trail. Here in Canada I opted for the Full Hard Cab option with heater, wiper, and washer; all through CFMoto. Ended up buying an Iron Baltic full skid plate, a gun rack, stereo, and some reverse lights.
I'd LOVE to hear more about a proper lift kit for this unit, not just the coil spring spacers. Tire sizes on the stock 14" wheels also interest me.
Thanks for your video, I'm sure you'll enjoy your UForce and I look forward to seeing your build!
Thanks for the comment and input! Glad to hear you are still loving yours. That warranty offered up there in Canada on CF Motos is awesome, too bad that's not standard here!
Hows that heater working out? I'm going to be wishing for that in winter when I'm hitting the snowy trails or plowing the driveway 😆
I have a 2011 Polaris Rzr 800s and a 2017 Polaris General 1000 both are great machines and the rzr has close to 4K miles on it the General only has close to 1k miles but I love both and have no problems the only thing about the General is it bucks at low speeds but the rzr doesn’t do it for some reason I think the transmission is different but I love both the machines
Standard options seems great! Really want to see the roof and wind shield.
So we never actually put a roof or windshield on this, but I'd you go to cfmotousa.com you can actually look at accessories and I believe they have a few images of roofs and windshields on the machines. Hope that helps!
Ok, sounds great, but what happens when the rubber meets the road, trail test, and I don't mean a tip toe thrue the tulips
I love my c.f. moto. I have a 15 800 z-forcs. I have had it for about a year now. C.F. Moto's I think are a well built machines. And my wife and I are looking at getting another one.( Since they don't make a 4 setter.) Maybe my wife will let me get the new 1000 that they came out with. LoL.
Hey that's awesome! Thanks for the feedback. The more I dig into CF Moto, the more I hear from their owners they are well liked...I guess you could probably say that with most big ATV companies though.
If you get the 1000, let me know how it runs! I just ran into one on the trail the other day, they seem like awesome machines.
I’m definitely interested in getting one. How fast does it go? If it’s a 40mph machine I would have a problem with that.
Got to 115km/h with mine in a straight line, 2 in them and fully loaded with fishing lugage, camping gear.
i have a new 2022 uforce 800 the cabin heat is very high you cant leave a drink in the cup holder for long also the engine noise i above other brands any ideas on how to mi mise these issues adding a heat shield is some what complicated behind the seats!
Hey I am looking on Alibana app and see a few of these CF Moto 800s and see different prices. Was wondering who you went through to get yours?
That button on the dash is an over ride for the full lockup.In full lockup,there's a rmp limiter,but if your in a bad hole and want the power and speed to blast threw it,hit that switch.
I think you might be one of the first people to get that right! I went and looked it up after the video and learned that. Many people have comment since then though, and most of them have gotten it wrong.
Thanks for your input.
Midwest ATV ....only reason I knew was because I just bought .😀
Haha, awesome congrats Warren!
Did not see this mentioned, but can this be licensed and driven on the street? It looks to have horn,mirrors,turn signals,high and low beams and break lights
Good question, Gene. It cannot be licensed as a car and driven on the streets. However, many places allow UTVs (especially with the appropriate equipment such as turn signals and brake lights) to be used on their streets.
Beat thing to do would call your local government, or try to look up a map on google of authorized roads in your area.
This appears to compete with the Yamaha Wolverine and Can Am Commander, both of which have dump boxes, two bucket seats, and better suspension than other utility models.
Agreed. It is a direct competitor. I would say that where it would win is what you get for the price. For example, do I think the Wolverine has a better clutching setup, absolutely. However the price tag of the Wolverine and what you get for that price is much higher. So there is definitely give and take.
Which utility UTV would you go with?
There are many positives, if something were to happen to it your home owners insurance will cover it as it can be used for work around the house. CF Moto has been around for over 25 years. There HP ratings are measured to the rear wheels instead of off the fly wheel. I looked at the Z Force 1000, and was shocked. Nice machine and loaded for around 13000. Really nice. I noticed the boys at Dirt Trax really gave them a good review. They love them. Warranty is pretty awsome. People just need to do there home work. Check out the 1000 z force. Elka shocks, stainless steel exhaust and the list goes on and on
Thanks for your input, Terry. These machines are a great option for many people. Just to clear the air though, I have personally verified with CFMOTO that they do in fact measure hp at the crank like other companies (not at the wheels). I don't know how this rumor got started, and I too thought it was the case for the longest time. I only learned otherwise recently when talking with one of my CFMOTO contacts.
Show me where they measures HP at the rear wheels. If you come thru, cool. If not, you made it up. I'm a very happy Can Am owner. Zero problems and I live where we can actually use them.
I am considering adding a CFmoto to my garage because the Can Am is big. I need a smaller machine for the tight mountain trails.
The CFmoto 1000 does NOT put 80hp to the ground. If you believe it, you're a sucker. I'm contacting CFmoto. Also, the shocks are NOT Elko. Quit spreading false information.
@@TheBandit7613 I'm sorry Chris I got some incorrect information which I heard right here on thi sight. He did send me a message that it was incorrect information. He talked to the reps to verify. I'm sorry and you have a great machine. I have a new Grizzly myself that I love but i'm considering buying a Mavrick trail, just don't know if I'm ready to quit riding and start driving. At my old age it may be better. Don't know
@@terrytesh391 I'm sorry I came off cranky. It's not normally me.
Despite it all, cfmoto is good enough to stand on it's own.
I'm going to look Saturday.
What is the actual height…? I have a enclosed trailer…. Opening is 6’1
Thinking about purchasing a CFMOTO... thought?
Check out the other CFMOTO reviews on our channel. Maybe they will help?
Like every other brand, they do have some downsized but everyone company does. Overall I think they are great options to consider.
Gooduck and let me know what you decide to do!!
Bought a 2021 uforce800. Faster than the uforce 1000 up to 100km/h. Very impresive machine. Other than all side b side are noisy and warm lol the seat belts are locking up randomly. I think the seat belts are the only bad issue. The next upgrade would be ajusting the suspension better or upgrading the suspension maybe if not, impressive machine literaly.
I’m seriously thinking about buying a CF Moto and just wondering how the building went on your you force
Tony Perri went shit I would get one
Hello from the near east side of Madison. I considering buying a side by side. Do you know if madcity powers sister store in Richland center services CFmoto? Excellent video quality!!
Its not cvt clutch bro it's CV tech. And it's a good clutch depending on how it's weighted. It's still a cvt clutch like a Polaris just made by CV tech .
Hey thanks for the correction man. I should have said CV Tech clutch. Good to hear your thoughts. I still have some research to do on them. Like I said in the video, I have never had one and dont really dont know much about them.
I find The center console gets real hot when driving , I'm in Canada and the u force comes with turn signals and 4 way flashers included.
Thanks for the feedback! I have not noticed that the center console area getting hot, I will have to pay attention to that next time I am in it.
Good to know the Canadain model comes with the turn signals and flashers! Can you guys legally drive UTV's on pretty much any street? In America, it has to be designated an "ATV Route".
@@NavigateOffroad Not in my province, but I'm pretty sure in other provinces there are certain roads that can be legally driven on.
oh ok. Well that's a bummer around you. We have certain roads that can, and certain roads you can't. In generally you cannot, but they are starting to make a lot of roads "ATV Routes".
It's not a provincial regulation, it's municipal bylaws that allow it. Lots of small communities as well as some larger towns/cities allow use of ATVs and SxS on the roads, or on certain roads. There are plenty around where I live in Ontario. Mostly where ATV driven tourism is a thing, they eventually realize it's a positive thing to allow the use on their roads.
oh ok, that sounds pretty similiar to here in America then. It does lead me to wonder then why they have the flashers included in the Canadian model and not the American model.
The 800 in new Zealand come with a exo cage, light bar and roof cage as well from the factory
I am looking at getting one next year cant wait to see more vids
Hey Thanks Derryl, I appreciate the support. If you end up getting one next year let me know! I just want to do a couple more rides on this (need to get it in some thick mud) and then I should have the full review out.
What's the warranty? In Canada the have 5year power train.
Canada definitely has a better warranty. It's only 12 months here in the U.S.
If you call John Hester at Hester motorsports in rat tone New Mexico. He specializes in CF moto and very knowledgeable. CF moto is the only company that deinos their engine. All other manufacturers measure horsepower at the crank. CF moto 800 produces 3 horsepower less than the 900 can am.. John Hester has a 3" lift kit that will take a 30" tire including a programmer Where is a great exhaust and I believe he has a cat delete system. I really enjoy your show to see out on the trail one day
This is false, they are rated at the crank just like everyone else. EVO has dyno'd RZR's and they loose about 28% from the crank to the wheels. Are you saying that an SOHC 800cc Chinese motor makes 89HP at the crank? You've got to be kidding yourself that they would hamstring themselves by rating their vehicles with WHP when everyone else does at the crank especially since they use a CVT. This is outright lie.
@@KriegerKrieg LOL do more research.
@@sidewinderdesigns8889 would you kindly show me where cfmoto has claimed this is WHP. This is a common rumor spread by cfmoto fanboys. Even better show me a dyno, I bet their numbers are even lower than they advertise.
@@KriegerKrieg On TH-cam you can check out Hester motorsports. com. Hester will allow you to call him and get the information from him he is an engineer. I called CF moto and it's some background checks including 3 dealerships that sell them and specialize in after market products for that. I was shocked to find out and sort it euro tated that the engine in my Honda was a CF moto produced engine they produced engines for a long time and then got into the UTV and a TV market they also produce engines for KTM products and a couple other major manufacturers. Producing engines and transmissions and perfecting them is what see if moto was originally about. They claim all their engines are dinos at the wheel not at the crank. All the manufacturers at modify products forum including John Hester which is an engineer and raced.
@@sidewinderdesigns8889 yeah so I'm part of a cfmoto owners group on Facebook, and someone dyno'ed their zforce 800 and guess what the wheel hp was?
Orange Slice is looking good!
:) Thanks! Gotta love the name.
Can you make a video of it going on trails? And going in water don't be afriad to hit the water hard. I was with a. Cf moto yesterday went in a bit of water and belt got wet right away.
For sure, and thank you for the input. I am going to get a full review out in about a month, but I wanted more time behind the wheel first. I will make sure to get some shots of it going through water and let you know how it performs.
Thanks for the input on what you want to see.
Midwest ATV thanks for the quick response on both questions. In planning on buying one this winter if it preforms well, in also happy it has tilt steering that would have been a no to me if it didn't (the small things count). Can't wait to to see that review.
I hear you about the small things. My wife is not short, which always made her stretch some when driving the RZR. The UForce has an adjustable seat! Works amazing for her.
The review should be out soon. Took it out on the trail a couple times but I really want to get it in some thick mud before calling it "good". Thanks for the support, and let me know if you end up getting one this winter!
Did you ever do the upgrades?
Cant wait for this series!!!
Thanks for the feedback Derek! I am pretty excited to see how this beast turns out over the next year.
Midwest ATV me too. Cant wait to see what all you do to it
Thanks man!
Love the thoughts of a new zforce 800 trail. Subbed.
Be more than happy to take this voyage w/u .
Our group is all canned hams and polar asses but we see cfmoto up and coming.
Same boat your in, how do i bring the kids ? The wife ? Im waiting but i think by this time next year.....
😁👍 Thanks for subscribing, I really appreciate that!
Hopefully we will have some stuff coming out on the Uforce soon in regards to its build. It has been pretty hard to find good parts for it. One thing we have learned...the aftermarket market (yes I realize I just said market twice in a row 😆) is pretty lacking for CFMOTO's.
the button with the triangle and exclamation point is reverse over ride
That's actually been a common guess Michael but that's actually not correct. I looked it up in the manual after the video (as I clearly didn't know either) and its a 4WD-Lock override switch.
When in 4WD-Lock the speed is limited. This allows you to give it more power if necessary.
Where are they made ?
Just bought mine I pick it up tomorrow am woooohooooo
I’m looking at getting the same model. Why did you bail on the RZR. Sub’d
Hey thanks for Subing Ryan!
Nothing really wrong with the RZR, it was a great machine. Just decided it was time to try something else (and bigger). The CF Moto seemed like a good option because there is still a lot less awareness and information on them. So I wanted to be able to provide that value to others, and learn more about them myself. Plus we ride a lot, and wanted to try a machine where we could bring the dog with....which will hopefully work out.
Midwest ATV looking forward to see what you do with it. I like the Z-force too but my knees get killed in the dash. Plus you are right with the dog aspect. My shepherd goes everywhere with me. It would be cool to have him come on rides.
Thanks Ryan!
We got the dog out on it (video will be up soon) and it went better than expected for a first go, so I'm hoping it will work out.
Nice video! i got a cf moto racher 500-3 utv from 2009. bought it last year and have run it 3000 kilometers or like 4000 miles? i am from sweden so my english are not the best. one thing i have the most issue with is that reverse have the same ratio as the H forward so if you drive on Low and get stuck in like snow there is a problem to reverse. but maybe it is because of the not so strong enginge. 500cc and like 20hk. how is does new u force that way? how fast is the topspeed? //Martin
Do the release button stick like my z force ... I don't mind it but it pisses my wife off
Adjustable seats?
It does! I meant to bring that up in the video, thanks for the reminder.
You should have spoken about the engine a bit, I own one of the same(different colour only). Excellent side by side the next will be the 1000.
Compré un Mule pro fxr que te parece???
Lo siento. Intenté traducir esto, pero no se tradujo correctamente, tenía sentido en inglés.
Is the passenger side hot? Temperature eise?
It's not too bad. The heat is noticeable but not extreme by any means. In fact, I would say it is probably less than with similar SxS's such as the Ranger.
The engine is placed down enough and partially behind the seats in a way that as long as you are moving the heat mostly gets pushed behind you. I suppose if you enclosed the cab though you would notice it more...but again, it has not been that "uncomfortably hot" that some machines get.
Actually I’m not gonna read the comments I think he probably already know I didn’t realize this video with Tate back in July but I’m going to finish this video and I have my own two cents
Tilt steering??
Yes, Great point. I will have to make sure and mention that when I do the full review on it.
You are speaking like there is a huge after market for parts and accessories , I will say I have read some articles giving CFMoto
A thumbs up, but that being said as for me, most things put out buy writers are normally written buy guys that I really don’t put in my real man category !
Please put it through some real trail test, it’s way to clean at this point for me to put any stock in your video😀😎
Ted, we have put this through some real tests. This video was an initial walk-around as mentioned in the video man...there were follow up videos after reviewing the machine 👍
I live out in Newman Lake Washington which is a suburb of Spokane Washington and Coeur d’ Alene Idaho actually my main shop is actually in the state of Idaho we are right on the border but our house is on Washington side why does this matter on the Idaho side I can drive my machine in the city and through town as long is the maximum speed limit is not over 55 or on the interstate because I’m curious if anybody knows a vendor or knows how to get The factory blinkers for CF Moto I had my blinker switch as far as I understand the United States is the only country where the blinkers are not installed I know that they are in Canada my current dealer they just want to have me do after market extra wiring blah blah blah I don’t want that I would love to have the factory ones they would fit right in so if anybody knows how or where to get factory blinkers please let me know I haven’t tried that hard but I have done some searches and haven’t gotten much Biggest thing is we on a beach house west of the Cascades at in Long Beach Washington and these things are street legal as long as they have a full blank your system using hand signals won’t cut it so I would like to get that figured out before next summer
I don't blame you for not wanting to do a random job with extra wiring. It's already there, why add more?! Unfortunately I do not have a specific source to recommend. Hopefully someone else here can help you out. I would think there is an ATV company in Canada you could order them through if nothing else?
American Gooeyduck
American Gooeyduck, go to www.alpha-sports.com They sell and ship genuine CF Moto parts. I'm sure you can find what you're looking for there.
Good to know, thanks for spreading the word around!
Who cares what the trolls say bro... That's a beautiful machine. What these uneducated clowns don't realize is all these "name brands" get their machines made by outside companies also. They are, for the most part, all the same... (i.e. Massimo and Yamaha are identical machines. Yamaha is about $3000 more.)
😆 Thanks for the comment and input Showgun! If people have justifiable arguments or experience, I love to have discussions about machinea/differences. However a lot of negative feedback seems to come from a denial based simply on the name brand. I suppose that's normal for many things in life though...
I would take a cfmoto b efor a Plairs any day
Is your phone auto correcting polaris to plairs, or is that just how you like to spell it?
you shoulda went with uforce 1000
Nice video man, way to rep CFMoto. I bought 2x CFMoto ZForce 500s this year and really like them. Check out my review if you're interested. I am interested in picking up a UForce 500 or 800 soon as well. I really like them! Overall, how has it been? They all have 5 year warranties here in Canada!
Thanks! Overall, it has been a great machine. A few things I do not like on it but overall, we are pretty impressed with it.
Glad to hear the Zforce is working out for you. I am hoping to get a little wheel time on the new Zforce 1000 soon. I am curious what type of unch that will have.
Not a Plairs fan at all know to many people that have a lot of problems with Plairs
Oh I got ya, right on.
I have I 500s cf moto 4w
500s? Are you talking about the Cforce?
It’s Reverse override
Thanks for the tip! I was thinking about it when editing the video, and thats the thought I had as well...never ended up looking it up in the manual, ha!
It's the diff lock override
I own a 2015 Uforce 800. The thing is junk, have soo many problems with it. Master brake cylinder failing,blown engine. Just had to buy a full brake caliper for one screw. A lot of the parts are near impossible to find and no one will service them.DO NOT BUY A CFMOTO
put a roof on , add a wind shield. .
Wish we had a whole enclosed cab with a heater right now with the cold weather we've been having! 😂
look into what It would cost for an out side company to fabricate a full enclosed cab.
search on line for heater, you put in your side x side. @@NavigateOffroad
Yea I have actually. It's pretty expensive! Especially because most of the year I wouldn't want an enclosed cab (just not really a fan of it feeling like a car). So then it's a ton of money to have taking up space in the garage you know what I mean?
yes I do @@NavigateOffroad
There went the idea of buying the cheaper brand😂... leave it alone and enjoy
Less talk, more actual review!
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate that. Anything specific you didn't see in the review you would have liked?
Will it was a Plairs, that's all that needs to be said. LoL
? I'm confused, what do you mean?
“Sqeeter”
super atv .com
Thanks for the tip but I've tried them. Sadly, they do not have a lot of options for the Uforce! 🤔