I clearly remember flying on a 990 as a young boy, and seeing those strange shapes on the wings for the first time. it’s fascinating to watch your video and learn the whole backstory as a -now-63-year-old
My dad got out of the US Navy after WWII and was hired by Convair in 1950. He retired in 1982. He worked on a lot of great aircraft. He was disappointed only in two types, the Sea Dart and the F-111 Aardvark swing wing. He would boast to us kids that Convair had the fastest planes of all types at a point in the early '60's. For about 6 months anyway :). Thanks for the memories Dad. RIP.....
The F-111 was a very successful workhorse for raining freedom down on commies and derka derkas so not sure why he was so disappointed...the aspirations of TFX were always a fantasy, but what came from it was a very successful tactical aircraft
Mustard, thank you for posting this! I was 8 years old and nuts on jet aircraft. We went on a holiday to the Spanish island of Majorca on a Convair 990 and the airline was Spantax. At the time we called this plane the Spantax Coronado and that is the name that has stuck in my memory. My Father was keen to point out how quickly we got to our destination and I was completely awed - sat next to the window staring out at those huge teardrop shapes on the top of the wing. I asked and asked to go to the cockpit and my wish was granted. It really was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
A time when they welcomed kids up to the pointy end. I remember being in the cockpit of 747 for half an hour heading back to Sydney from SF in the early 80s. Wonderful experience as a young teenager.
I used to see the spantax 990 land at glasgow in the mid '70s along with air spain bright yellow dc8..now all there is are boring easyjet airbuses! Happy days..!
In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."
@Chris Schmelter Batteries don't have the needed power density yet. Perhaps in the next 10-20 years they might get into the range to where an airliner can have space for something OTHER THAN batteries.
Really good stuff. As it happens, the first airliner I ever flew on was a Convair 990. This was an American Airlines flight from ORD to JFK on December 11, 1964. I was thrilled, of course. The seats were upholstered in cloth, with white antimacassars for the head. The food was excellent. And if we flew faster, it just meant that we got to the holding pattern at JFK a bit sooner. December 11 was a Friday. On our tray tables sat a card with a message for Catholics from the Holy Father. If the plane's galley ran out of the fish course, it told us, the Pope had granted a special dispensation for the Faithful to eat meat. How very thoughtful it was, we decided.
I never rode in a 990 but I did ride in an 880 circa 1971. A scary day in my life. We were going from Boeing Field near Seattle to an airport near Fort Ord (San Francisco). We waited for at least an hour for the pilots during which the airplane cabin became very hot. After the wait, the captain comes be-bopping down the aisle in shirt sleeves chewing gum. He goes into the cockpit, sits down, and fires up the engines and in just minutes, like we were going to pick up some groceries, we're moving. Down the taxiway, he turned the plane around at the end of the runway with no pause to line things up and for a final check and we were going down the runway and up in a very steep climb for an airliner. Nearing our destination, the pilot cut power and we felt as if in a falling pancake which led to a HARD landing. The thrust reversers(?) and brakes came on max with the plane shuddering like an unbalanced washing machine and we still nearly ran out of runway. I've ridden in airliners well over 500 times, since. I'm old and can't remember any details of them, save three. I remember that one most of all.
My dad was a flight test engineer on this thing. Our family's best friends in the 1960's & 1970's were the flight test crew on this and other Convair planes.
Being in the Air Force at the time I knew catching a Delta Convair 880 flight from Oklahoma City to Baltimore (1973 I think) was a treat. It was a great flight as there was maybe 20 passengers on this late night flight.
In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."
Convair should make a comeback then, all my upcoming flights are business class, with seats that convert to flat beds on the long stints. And how is it possible? Truth is that YOU pay for it, the cheap charlies at zero-legroom-and-microwaved-meal-class willing to pay for misery has made business class cheaper and cheaper. Before Business was insanely expensive and some of the profit was used to subsidise some of the tourist class seats, now tourist class is so profitable that they subsidise business class. Like same-day-made tourist class meals that could cost over $5 per passenger, now with microwaved long shelf-life meals the cost is nearer 0.50 in a Dreamliner, a vegetarian risotto is probably 0.25 or so.
@@turkey0165 what in that quote makes it communist? Its about how the rich are willing to pay more for speed in air travel, while the masses would rather go with cheaper.
Time isn't the commonfolk's friend either. "Cost" speaks to a yearning for material wealth, in which case "cost" isn't the enemy. The unreachable satiety of material wealth is the enemy. Hug your loved ones and enjoy the sunlight streaming through the window as it warms your face forget the Rolex that won't trouble you in your last moments.
@soaringtractor BUT my Honda Civic can go 1 Mach!!!! The stickers on it made it 1% faster but when the vtec kicked in I would've been able to go Mach 1000!??! But at those sppeeds yes it uses more fuel!!!
As a kid, I flew once in Varig's 990. I was only 6 years old but distinctly remember the "Whitcomb bodies" over the wings. Shortly after, family members would often see a 707 or DC-8 and say "that's the airplane type we flew on that trip" and I'd mentally say, "Nope. It's lacking those funny things over the wings". When I learned about the 990 (circa 1970), I could finally answer them properly, "In that trip, we flew in a Convair 990".
Interesting story about Varig's Coronados, they were originally ordered by then Panair do Brasil. When Panair folded in early 60's Varig took over their routes and some of their aircraft, including the 3 990's ordered. The 3 units flew only a couple of years as Varig standardized on the 707 by the mid 60's.
Aasim Oh hi ... yes. In fact, I finished writing and recorded the script for the next one over the weekend. It’s much longer than my usual stuff so it likely won’t be out until the end of the month. Thanks for asking!
I remember flying TWA 880 from Chicago to Columbia, SC, for Army basic training at Ft. Jackson. I was impressed as to how quiet it was in the cabin. During my later aviation career in air cargo, DC8 pilots would refer to the Convairs as 'The DC8 Sport Model'. They all loved it. And we can't forget that Elvis owned an 880 names the 'Lisa Marie'. I remember seeing it parked on the tarmac at Miami. It's now on display at Elvis' Memphis home Graceland.
Belonged to Detroit based travel club the Nomads & we owned a Convair 990. It was fastest airliner around & on trip to Europe in '70s, we were passing everything....until another liner roared up & passed us like we had forgotten to light the engines. We approved the "Con" as it's 1st 3 lettters, but the "corde" part ruined our day!
I was lucky enough to be a passenger on a 990 from Seattle to Anchorage in 1966. Most comfortable, quiet and smooth ride I have ever had in a jet including the C-141 Statlifter.
Only 37 CV 990 were ever build and one of the surviving ones is in the Verkehrshaus Luzern in Switzerland. It surely is worth a watch, if you‘re close-by. One of the most fascinating airplanes ever.
Thanks - this is great and amazingly good graphics. My dad flew it briefly in his American Airlines career - don’t know if totally accurate but he said it was realized in the real world the “anti-shock bodies” did not help performance and even added drag - but it was too late to delete them from the overall design which also used them as necessary fuel tanks.
I worked in Mojave last summer and saw one of these every day since it was on static display at the entrance of the air and spaceport. Very cool plane!
I'm an ex VARIG BRAZILIAN AIRLINES crew member. The fact you used a picture of a BOEING 707-320 B of my old and beloved company, made me feel honored! Unfortunately, like PAN AMERICAN AIRLINES (they were born by the same time...) VARIG was killed by the same reasons... I'm your subscriber and also enjoy very much, your very good work! Greetings from BRAZIL!
My favourite part of your videos is something that doesn't often factor in people's decisions. Namely, your voicing. You're clear, you enunciate, your pace, tone and manner are all bang on and there's not a whiff of bombast. It's not just amateurs on TH-cam who have copy reading issues. Tune in to any of the major news outlets on any given day or time and you'll hear people, some of whom are on 8 figure salaries, racing and slurring.
I flew on a Swissair Convair Coronado in 1972, a short flight from London to Geneva. Remember looking out the windows and noticing the big blisters on the wings. Didn't appreciate at the time that I was flying on such a rare airplane.
My first flight , in 1970 , was on a VC-10 , from Glasgow to Amsterdam - never before or since did I experience such acceleration , and when it rotated : WOW , that was an experience I'll never forget . VC-10 held the transatlantic speed record for subsonic aircraft for 41 years , bettered only by Concorde . Convair ? Never heard of them - don't exist here . Must be a US only thing . But then , we made all the best airliners : Comet - first jetliner , VC-10 fastest , most capable and by far most comfortable , Concorde - nothing comes close .
@@derekheeps8012 Look up Convair B-36, it was quite the airplane. With six pusher-props that dwarfed the B-17 and Lancaster. We could go back and forth for hours on who made the best airliners. For me though it's really simple: "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going." 😆
Very interesting video. I worked for American Airlines 1964 - 1967 at JFK Dispatch and recall their fleet at the time had a number of the 990's, along with 707's, 720's, 727's, L-188's DC-6's and still had DC-3's! When I left American in 1967 I went to work for Modern Ait Transport in Miami and what do you know - they bought an American 990 that I took a rid in. All very fond memories.
I've never heard of the 990 and its significance in the airline industry, so I was quite surprised because I am a plane nerd and thought I knew them all. Way to really dive to the crevices of unknown. You're making very well thought out professional quality content I see. Congrats on the new website!
Great work Mustard! Here in Spain, we hava a Convair 990, which was owned by Spantax (airline that went bankrupt in the 80s). It has stayed LEPA (Palma de Mallorca) until now. It is so beautiful! Looking forward to the next video, and greetings from Spain!
Thanks for watching! This video was tough to make...so much to cover. The 880 also has a crazy backstory with Howard Hughes being much to blame for it's failure.
You really did your research. Can I ask you, what did you study? You have a lot of field-specific knowledge and terms in there, which impressed me very much. It cought my attention because I work in aviation myself.
The 990A may have been the fastest subsonic jet ever made, but it never made an attempt to break the Vickers VC10's record of the fastest subsonic Atlantic crossing between London and New York.
Did any airline ever run the 990A LondonNew-York ? I know Swissair ran services to the USA Switzerland. Pilots of the 2 airlines would have a race from a point one side of the Atlantic to a second point on the other side. The 990A usually won depending on passenger load. Due to prevailing winds NY->London is generally faster.
Wait a second you're telling me this plane, supposedly the fastest subsonic plane ever built, has a max speed of only 2km\h more than the bloody A380??
As an airliner aficionado, the Convair 990 Story got my attention & interest. What I really want to thank you for, is your informative & entertaining bit on Squarespace. I hadn't considered them before, but now that will be the option I'll be looking at when designing my next website. Keep up the informative pieces. Thank you.
I've always loved the Convair Jets. It's really a shame they've almost all been scrapped. Tho only easy way to see one up close is to visit Elvis' 880 "Lisa Marie" which is on display in Memphis.
Hey Mustard, I really hope you see this: Every time you make a video, not only do you teach me amazing new facts about the futurists of the past and the inventions mankind tested, but you make me ponder: what if these inventions had been successful? What insane futurism would we have today? Planes in particular have made little advances in the market, so your channel makes me think in a new perspective.
Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment! I’m definitely drawn to stories about things that had huge potential but missed the mark somehow. The next video we’re working on is no different :)
Convair was one of the coolest and most unique companies of the golden age. The Hustler bomber could be its own episode...such a neat plane that suffered much the same fate as the 880/990 - too good at what it did at a great cost. Their Delta fighters were kind of a mess and under performed. The General Dynamics division gave the world the F16 though so that was a great parting gift from a conglomerate the completely and thoroughly represented its era! Loved the episode!
The F-106 Delta Dagger was never intended to be a fighter. It was an interceptor. The only mission it was designed for was to stop Russia from delivering atomic bombs to the U.S. Also: It out-performed the F-104. By a lot.
In some ways the F-106 outperformed the F-104; I wouldn't necessarily call it "a lot" though. Conversely, the F-104 also outperformed the F-106 in certain areas.
The transition from speed to sardine packing people is the reason I refuse to fly on those busses in the sky. Drive, train, fly private or fly my own plane. Commercial airliners suck
I looooove your work, it's amazing to see these legendary machines brought back to life and you're doing good work reminding us of these often forgotten beauties. Keep amazing us!
Interesting you never mentioned the Vickers VC-10 that first flew in 1962. The aircraft that still holds the record for the fastest subsonic crossing of the Atlantic. It was a beautiful aircraft but designed for specific routes that required Short Take Off from high altitude airfields in hot and dusty conditions. The 707 couldn't compete on these routes but like the 880 / 990 the VC-10 sold well but not well enough to dent Boeing's grip and they all ended up in RAF service as air tankers and personnel transports.
Yeah, trouble was, Airports/governments realized just how important being able to handle 707s was, so rather than waiting for something like a VC10 that could fly in anyway, they built runway extensions and all the facilities to handle DC-8s and 707s.
The VC-10 record is influenced by tailwinds. Not so much the indicated airspeed. Also the VC-10 didn’t sell well. They only sold 17 more planes than the Convair 990!
Every new Mustard's video is as small Christmas's present. What professionally created vids, graphic, scenario...etc it is incredible. Even big tv channels have less pro videos/tv shows.
The Convair 990 was such a cool aircraft! I flew on it twice: New York (Idlewild, now JFK) to Dallas on an American 990 in 1962 and Seattle to Anchorage on an Alaska 990A in 1968 (signage was in both English and Portuguese as the plane was originally VARIG Brazil).
I flew to Las Vegas on a Delta L-1011. The pilot told me he flew a Convair 880 that was later sold to Elvis. He said it was a fast jet but it was a gas hog.
@@s.sestric9929 I had not heard that. But it makes no difference. It should never fly again anyway. The engines are ancient and have been sitting in the weather for over 50 years and it would just not be worth doing anything with anyway. If it were to ever be able to fly again, I certainly would NOT go along for a ride.
The domestically operated CV-990s, along with other aircraft types, were forced into retirement when new noise regulations took effect at the end of 1984. Up until then, a few 990s were still operating for travel clubs and charter airlines. Great video!
NASA was able to purchase the 990 that was used for FAA's certification process for a good price and this aircraft was converted to become the first large flying observatory "Galileo." Advantage for Convair they can sell it without installing seats and upholstery. NASA advantage is they can get a airplane ready to install telescopes and special windows. This was a huge boost for airborne science so astronomers can load up cameras and stuff and go above much of the atmosphere to where ever for solar eclipses. Also do spectral observations of various stars.
Just so you know there is a Conveir 990 at Palma De Mallorca airport its been motheballed since Spantax stopped operating, she is looking pretty sad. (EC-BZO
As one fellow ahead-of-its-time and underappreciated airliner to another, you gotta believe I love this video. The Convair was like a sporty, luxury car, for a market that wasn't ready for it. Just like me...
Enjoyed the video. It brought back many memories. I flew many times on Convair 880's. The crew loved them and were very comfortable to fly on between Houston, Chicago and New York City. Only problem was they were fuel hogs. Other than an occasional DC8, they were replaced by 727's. To this day, I still hate 727's.
AJ, what exactly did you dislike about the 727? The three-holer was one of the most successful airliners of all time. It also cruised faster than today's high tech cattle cars.
I do agree with high tech cattle car :). I swear every one I flew in was piloted by a Navy pilot trying to land on the carrier Hornet. One evening Braniff flight from Dallas to Houston, I swear he never lowered his flaps, hit the ground so hard and fast that several oxygen masks dropped down. One Delta fight from NYC to New Orleans, the air conditioning was pumping heat. I touched my wet towel to a side panel and the water from it evaporated it was so hot. I just was never comfortable in one, coach or first class. 737's are cattle cars. My favorites will have been DC8's, DC10's, L1011's, the original DC9 Super 80's (MuseAir) and CV880's. Smooth, problem free easy rides for the business traveler.
I had the wonderful opportunity to fly on an AA 990 from SF to Chicago in grammar school It looks sharper and looks more energetic and faster that the others too. Thanks Mustard for doing the video.
Living this channel,,,I grew up in the 70s hence flew on Trident British Airways,, DC from Switzerland,,,Boeing 747 Wardair to Canada,,,,,,Awesome channel,,,big Thanx for your hard work,,
I clearly remember flying on a 990 as a young boy, and seeing those strange shapes on the wings for the first time. it’s fascinating to watch your video and learn the whole backstory as a -now-63-year-old
wow
😲, you have seen so much
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Same age! Love that plane.
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Mustard's videos are some of the most aesthetically pleasing I've ever seen
Airplanes are pretty aesthetically pleasing subjects to cover.
yea the type of art is just amazing to look at for an odd reason
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Your 3d modeling really looks like you took videos of these old airplanes.
I think it's the grittiness in the videos that make it look real
how long does it take to do something like that
Months
agreed
Absolutely, it looks awesome
My dad got out of the US Navy after WWII and was hired by Convair in 1950. He retired in 1982. He worked on a lot of great aircraft. He was disappointed only in two types, the Sea Dart and the F-111 Aardvark swing wing. He would boast to us kids that Convair had the fastest planes of all types at a point in the early '60's. For about 6 months anyway :). Thanks for the memories Dad. RIP.....
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The F-111 was a very successful workhorse for raining freedom down on commies and derka derkas so not sure why he was so disappointed...the aspirations of TFX were always a fantasy, but what came from it was a very successful tactical aircraft
nutsackmania yanks got twatted in nam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for sharing.
One of my dad's best friends got killed in the Sea Dart crash in 1954.
Selling to airlines
Convair: we have luxury
Boeing: We can shove people in here like a can of sardines.
Airlines responding to Boeing: Say no more
@@Thompoux airlines responding to boeing:I'll take your entire stock!
Still Boeing wins
@@pankajkushwaha2288 also douglas would be like we do the same but were cheap
and then kill them while lying to the Government about the safety of our planes.
Mustard, thank you for posting this! I was 8 years old and nuts on jet aircraft. We went on a holiday to the Spanish island of Majorca on a Convair 990 and the airline was Spantax. At the time we called this plane the Spantax Coronado and that is the name that has stuck in my memory. My Father was keen to point out how quickly we got to our destination and I was completely awed - sat next to the window staring out at those huge teardrop shapes on the top of the wing. I asked and asked to go to the cockpit and my wish was granted. It really was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
A time when they welcomed kids up to the pointy end. I remember being in the cockpit of 747 for half an hour heading back to Sydney from SF in the early 80s. Wonderful experience as a young teenager.
what a fantastic and beautiful story, congratulations ¡¡¡¡¡
So fantastic!
I used to see the spantax 990 land at glasgow in the mid '70s along with air spain bright yellow dc8..now all there is are boring easyjet airbuses! Happy days..!
@@sillyoldbastard3280 They still do it today don't worry. :)
In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."
Awesome joke
Lol
lithiumdeuterid lol
Great joke - would have been funnier if the Lufthansa only had one engine :-)
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So sad. I love how there were so many aircraft manufacturers in the past. It sucks most are not here no more
Thank Boeing for that
@@davidvasquez08 oh and literally every aircraft company in Europe merging into Airbus a few years after Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas
@@davidvasquez08 Thank the cost of increasingly complex aircraft and competition for that.
Brice Fleckenstein and that too
@Chris Schmelter Batteries don't have the needed power density yet.
Perhaps in the next 10-20 years they might get into the range to where an airliner can have space for something OTHER THAN batteries.
Really good stuff. As it happens, the first airliner I ever flew on was a Convair 990. This was an American Airlines flight from ORD to JFK on December 11, 1964. I was thrilled, of course. The seats were upholstered in cloth, with white antimacassars for the head. The food was excellent. And if we flew faster, it just meant that we got to the holding pattern at JFK a bit sooner. December 11 was a Friday. On our tray tables sat a card with a message for Catholics from the Holy Father. If the plane's galley ran out of the fish course, it told us, the Pope had granted a special dispensation for the Faithful to eat meat. How very thoughtful it was, we decided.
That's a really cool story.
Only God is holy, not the pope.
@@blitzwolf17 lol
It wasn’t really the Holy Fathers message ,it was the Airline’s Managing director pretending it was ,to flog Catholics flight tickets .
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So. Very. T R U E!
I never rode in a 990 but I did ride in an 880 circa 1971. A scary day in my life. We were going from Boeing Field near Seattle to an airport near Fort Ord (San Francisco). We waited for at least an hour for the pilots during which the airplane cabin became very hot. After the wait, the captain comes be-bopping down the aisle in shirt sleeves chewing gum. He goes into the cockpit, sits down, and fires up the engines and in just minutes, like we were going to pick up some groceries, we're moving. Down the taxiway, he turned the plane around at the end of the runway with no pause to line things up and for a final check and we were going down the runway and up in a very steep climb for an airliner. Nearing our destination, the pilot cut power and we felt as if in a falling pancake which led to a HARD landing. The thrust reversers(?) and brakes came on max with the plane shuddering like an unbalanced washing machine and we still nearly ran out of runway. I've ridden in airliners well over 500 times, since. I'm old and can't remember any details of them, save three. I remember that one most of all.
My dad was a flight test engineer on this thing. Our family's best friends in the 1960's & 1970's were the flight test crew on this and other Convair planes.
Pure crap
@@forksandspoons5435 your mom's 707 has no legroom so be happy with it
I had the opportunity to fly in a TWA convair 880 way back in 1974. I had no idea at the time what a rare treat that was.
For you to say that,how old are you?
The fact that it was a TWA airliner added rarity points to your flight.
Being in the Air Force at the time I knew catching a Delta Convair 880 flight from Oklahoma City to Baltimore (1973 I think) was a treat. It was a great flight as there was maybe 20 passengers on this late night flight.
One of the few quality over Quantity TH-cam channels!
Planeboy 2520, thats right...
Convair should've seen the future of air travel: not speed and luxurious lounges but cheap fares and zero leg room
In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."
@@PanzerVII-df8hg why not?
ok for real it was some stupid idea but the 50s were different, luxury was priority
Convair should make a comeback then, all my upcoming flights are business class, with seats that convert to flat beds on the long stints. And how is it possible? Truth is that YOU pay for it, the cheap charlies at zero-legroom-and-microwaved-meal-class willing to pay for misery has made business class cheaper and cheaper. Before Business was insanely expensive and some of the profit was used to subsidise some of the tourist class seats, now tourist class is so profitable that they subsidise business class. Like same-day-made tourist class meals that could cost over $5 per passenger, now with microwaved long shelf-life meals the cost is nearer 0.50 in a Dreamliner, a vegetarian risotto is probably 0.25 or so.
As sad as it is, it's airline department died with honor
@@bryantlipetri1092 still funny haha
"Time is the enemy of the privileged few, while cost is the enemy of the masses."
-Wendover Productions
Sounds like something a communist would say! 👎
@@turkey0165 what in that quote makes it communist? Its about how the rich are willing to pay more for speed in air travel, while the masses would rather go with cheaper.
Wendover mustard reallifelore... All same man... 😡
Time and money is the enemy of the masses.
Time isn't the commonfolk's friend either. "Cost" speaks to a yearning for material wealth, in which case "cost" isn't the enemy. The unreachable satiety of material wealth is the enemy. Hug your loved ones and enjoy the sunlight streaming through the window as it warms your face forget the Rolex that won't trouble you in your last moments.
Mach 0.97 cruise speed at FL350 for those wondering. Would have been nice to include that in the description.
soaringtractor what are you smoking lol
@@romanbaranovichi5375 everything
@soaringtractor BUT my Honda Civic can go 1 Mach!!!! The stickers on it made it 1% faster but when the vtec kicked in I would've been able to go Mach 1000!??! But at those sppeeds yes it uses more fuel!!!
@@donald_doe My 1956 Pontiac Star Chief station wagon uses more fuel even without going Mach 1.
soaringtractor lol wut?
As a kid, I flew once in Varig's 990. I was only 6 years old but distinctly remember the "Whitcomb bodies" over the wings. Shortly after, family members would often see a 707 or DC-8 and say "that's the airplane type we flew on that trip" and I'd mentally say, "Nope. It's lacking those funny things over the wings". When I learned about the 990 (circa 1970), I could finally answer them properly, "In that trip, we flew in a Convair 990".
When I was 6 years old, my dad was flying in this thing as a flight test engineer.
I still have a model of it on top of a bookcase upstairs.
Interesting story about Varig's Coronados, they were originally ordered by then Panair do Brasil. When Panair folded in early 60's Varig took over their routes and some of their aircraft, including the 3 990's ordered. The 3 units flew only a couple of years as Varig standardized on the 707 by the mid 60's.
@@ThatBoomerDude56 wow you topped everyone with that comment there sir
That's impressive
When I was 6 years old, I thought Herobrine was real.
F u n n y w i n g s
You are killing the game with these videos. Fantastic.
FutureNow Dude, where you at? Are you working on your next video? If so, I'm looking forward to it
Aasim Oh hi ... yes. In fact, I finished writing and recorded the script for the next one over the weekend. It’s much longer than my usual stuff so it likely won’t be out until the end of the month. Thanks for asking!
FutureNow Awesome. I'm Looking forward to it
Game?
what game?
I remember flying TWA 880 from Chicago to Columbia, SC, for Army basic training at Ft. Jackson. I was impressed as to how quiet it was in the cabin. During my later aviation career in air cargo, DC8 pilots would refer to the Convairs as 'The DC8 Sport Model'. They all loved it. And we can't forget that Elvis owned an 880 names the 'Lisa Marie'. I remember seeing it parked on the tarmac at Miami. It's now on display at Elvis' Memphis home Graceland.
Belonged to Detroit based travel club the Nomads & we owned a Convair 990. It was fastest airliner around & on trip to Europe in '70s, we were passing everything....until another liner roared up & passed us like we had forgotten to light the engines. We approved the "Con" as it's 1st 3 lettters, but the "corde" part ruined our day!
Better than being passed by a Tu-144.
At least you could be reasonably sure the Concord wouldn't die in mid-air.
how could you have seen it if it was 20,000ft higher than you?
So you never met the VC-10 : held the transatlantic record for 41 years : 5 hrs 1 minute , beaten only by Concorde .
"Mom that plane doesn't fly fast enough", "Shut up, you're being Transonic".
Ja Ja XD.
Ok. 'Transonic'. I knew it. Shuddering at the thought. 😀
Funny that.
Don't you just hate it when your mom calls you transonic? 😂
@@opsquashif a hedgehog were a superhero?
Mustard, your content is truly exceptional. I absolutely love this! Keep it up!
His animations are really great
Scripted V/O is *seriously* underrated.
Damp potato #36 zaaz
Seriously it's just so good!
exceptionally boring that is
How could anyone “dislike” this video? The information and production quality are outstanding!
I was lucky enough to be a passenger on a 990 from Seattle to Anchorage in 1966. Most comfortable, quiet and smooth ride I have ever had in a jet including the C-141 Statlifter.
Only 37 CV 990 were ever build and one of the surviving ones is in the Verkehrshaus Luzern in Switzerland. It surely is worth a watch, if you‘re close-by. One of the most fascinating airplanes ever.
There is a Convair 990 on display at the entrance of Mojave airport in California
@@caseruels1924 Cool
Thanks - this is great and amazingly good graphics. My dad flew it briefly in his American Airlines career - don’t know if totally accurate but he said it was realized in the real world the “anti-shock bodies” did not help performance and even added drag - but it was too late to delete them from the overall design which also used them as necessary fuel tanks.
His voice is soothing. I could hear it all day.
Sounds like he's talking into a fan
His phrasing reminds me of Christopher Walken lol I love it
I worked in Mojave last summer and saw one of these every day since it was on static display at the entrance of the air and spaceport. Very cool plane!
I'm an ex VARIG BRAZILIAN AIRLINES crew member.
The fact you used a picture of a BOEING 707-320 B of my old and beloved company, made me feel honored!
Unfortunately, like PAN AMERICAN AIRLINES (they were born by the same time...) VARIG was killed by the same reasons...
I'm your subscriber and also enjoy very much, your very good work!
Greetings from BRAZIL!
VARIG is certainly missed…
My favourite part of your videos is something that doesn't often factor in people's decisions. Namely, your voicing. You're clear, you enunciate, your pace, tone and manner are all bang on and there's not a whiff of bombast.
It's not just amateurs on TH-cam who have copy reading issues. Tune in to any of the major news outlets on any given day or time and you'll hear people, some of whom are on 8 figure salaries, racing and slurring.
Thank you Mustard. These videos are my favorite.
Alex your profile pic screams HMMMMM
Good video!! My flight, a Delta A330 going east over the Pacific, we had a 150MPH tailwind, and were cruising at 650MPH, was insane!
I flew on a Swissair Convair Coronado in 1972, a short flight from London to Geneva. Remember looking out the windows and noticing the big blisters on the wings. Didn't appreciate at the time that I was flying on such a rare airplane.
My first flight , in 1970 , was on a VC-10 , from Glasgow to Amsterdam - never before or since did I experience such acceleration , and when it rotated : WOW , that was an experience I'll never forget . VC-10 held the transatlantic speed record for subsonic aircraft for 41 years , bettered only by Concorde . Convair ? Never heard of them - don't exist here . Must be a US only thing . But then , we made all the best airliners : Comet - first jetliner , VC-10 fastest , most capable and by far most comfortable , Concorde - nothing comes close .
@@derekheeps8012 Look up Convair B-36, it was quite the airplane. With six pusher-props that dwarfed the B-17 and Lancaster.
We could go back and forth for hours on who made the best airliners. For me though it's really simple: "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going." 😆
@@derekheeps8012Cathay Pacific operated Convairs too…
I usually don't get impressed but the content and even the commentary voice is as spot on as a human being can ever be, absolutely class
Coming back to watch this again on my lunch break. Still easily one of my favorite channels on TH-cam.
Very interesting video. I worked for American Airlines 1964 - 1967 at JFK Dispatch and recall their fleet at the time had a number of the 990's, along with 707's, 720's, 727's, L-188's DC-6's and still had DC-3's! When I left American in 1967 I went to work for Modern Ait Transport in Miami and what do you know - they bought an American 990 that I took a rid in. All very fond memories.
I've never heard of the 990 and its significance in the airline industry, so I was quite surprised because I am a plane nerd and thought I knew them all. Way to really dive to the crevices of unknown. You're making very well thought out professional quality content I see. Congrats on the new website!
I love the animation you put with your video it makes it different from any other videos on TH-cam.
Thank you for bringing back fond memories of flying on American’s 990 and Delta’s 880. Taking off in one of them was like taking off in a rocket!
If you want a rocket takeoff, try a cat shot on a COD aircraft.
I suspect fighter takeoffs are even more so but never had a chance at one of those.
I flew in Delta 880 Tampa - Chicago & the flight was well less than 2 hrs in 68.
I am happy to say that I have seen the CV990, and been inside of one a long time ago! She was sadly not flying, but I had the privilege to be in one
Great work Mustard! Here in Spain, we hava a Convair 990, which was owned by Spantax (airline that went bankrupt in the 80s). It has stayed LEPA (Palma de Mallorca) until now. It is so beautiful!
Looking forward to the next video, and greetings from Spain!
There also is one in Switzerland in the Verkehrshaus Luzern. It‘s really beautiful and it‘s in the colors of Swissair, who flew that plane.
I actually flew on that Spantax going on holiday to Mallorca in the early 80s. :O)
@@royeb63 Me too. And I loved it
The best cheer-up of my day is Mustard making a video on, literly, my favorite airliner ever!
Thanks for watching! This video was tough to make...so much to cover. The 880 also has a crazy backstory with Howard Hughes being much to blame for it's failure.
You really did your research. Can I ask you, what did you study? You have a lot of field-specific knowledge and terms in there, which impressed me very much. It cought my attention because I work in aviation myself.
M artijn 👍🏿
The 990A may have been the fastest subsonic jet ever made, but it never made an attempt to break the Vickers VC10's record of the fastest subsonic Atlantic crossing between London and New York.
VC-10 is on our list of future videos. It’s simply too beautiful not to cover
I'll look out for that one.
Read my mind......
Unfortunately both very aesthetically beautiful but equally unsuccessful in terms of sales .
Did any airline ever run the 990A LondonNew-York ? I know Swissair ran services to the USA Switzerland. Pilots of the 2 airlines would have a race from a point one side of the Atlantic to a second point on the other side. The 990A usually won depending on passenger load. Due to prevailing winds NY->London is generally faster.
The way Mustard edits videos is like putting Mustard on a Hotdog.
A proper Hot Dog requires equal portions of Mustard, Ketchup, and Relish.
Wait a second you're telling me this plane, supposedly the fastest subsonic plane ever built, has a max speed of only 2km\h more than the bloody A380??
Hey 2 kmh is 2 kmh
Yeah and it also is 44 years older
@@federico339 exactly!
747 is pretty damn fast too
@Mark S nice
It was like you heard me say "I really wish a new episode of Mustard was out" keep up the great work!
I got to fly on both American 990, and Delta 880 just before they were WFU as spares in the early-mid 70's. Great airliners!
As an airliner aficionado, the Convair 990 Story got my attention & interest. What I really want to thank you for, is your informative & entertaining bit on Squarespace. I hadn't considered them before, but now that will be the option I'll be looking at when designing my next website. Keep up the informative pieces. Thank you.
Your narrating is really something else man, your calm voice is very pleasant to listen to.
I wish planes still looked like this, it actually looks beautiful.
I've always loved the Convair Jets. It's really a shame they've almost all been scrapped. Tho only easy way to see one up close is to visit Elvis' 880 "Lisa Marie" which is on display in Memphis.
My father flew in one of these once, from Switzerland to London in the 1960s.
Hey Mustard, I really hope you see this:
Every time you make a video, not only do you teach me amazing new facts about the futurists of the past and the inventions mankind tested, but you make me ponder: what if these inventions had been successful? What insane futurism would we have today? Planes in particular have made little advances in the market, so your channel makes me think in a new perspective.
Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment! I’m definitely drawn to stories about things that had huge potential but missed the mark somehow. The next video we’re working on is no different :)
Man I wish there was a channel like this that went over semis.
Convair was one of the coolest and most unique companies of the golden age. The Hustler bomber could be its own episode...such a neat plane that suffered much the same fate as the 880/990 - too good at what it did at a great cost. Their Delta fighters were kind of a mess and under performed. The General Dynamics division gave the world the F16 though so that was a great parting gift from a conglomerate the completely and thoroughly represented its era! Loved the episode!
The F-106 Delta Dagger was never intended to be a fighter. It was an interceptor. The only mission it was designed for was to stop Russia from delivering atomic bombs to the U.S. Also: It out-performed the F-104. By a lot.
In some ways the F-106 outperformed the F-104; I wouldn't necessarily call it "a lot" though. Conversely, the F-104 also outperformed the F-106 in certain areas.
Concorde designers acknowledged the influence of B-58.
@@ThatBoomerDude56 F-106 Delta Dart, F-102 Delta Dagger.
@@Ni999 Yeah. Thanks. I've been getting those reversed for at least 50 years.
The Convair 990 is so forgotten and unknown. :(
bob wach sad I didn’t know the Boeing 720 existed
Nightwing/TQFTCC My flag carrier (Garuda Indonesia) once owned it in the 60s
Fajar Adi Burhani Otoluwa very nice to hear. When I went to Mojave air and space port in the front was a Convair 880, good times mate
bob wach wasn'tthat the 707-120 before United got them to change the name?
The transition from speed to sardine packing people is the reason I refuse to fly on those busses in the sky. Drive, train, fly private or fly my own plane. Commercial airliners suck
I looooove your work, it's amazing to see these legendary machines brought back to life and you're doing good work reminding us of these often forgotten beauties. Keep amazing us!
This is a good video about a largely forgotten plane. Also, an example how faster (only a bit) doesn't always play out to be better.
I'm really starting to appreciate how good of a narrator Mustard is, far better than the fake enthusiasm of the Discovery Channel and Nat Geo.
5:25 "Convair had just built the world's fastest airliner...atleast on paper" had me dying
Fake verified
One of the forgotten legendary planes, what an awesome video as well!
Interesting you never mentioned the Vickers VC-10 that first flew in 1962. The aircraft that still holds the record for the fastest subsonic crossing of the Atlantic. It was a beautiful aircraft but designed for specific routes that required Short Take Off from high altitude airfields in hot and dusty conditions. The 707 couldn't compete on these routes but like the 880 / 990 the VC-10 sold well but not well enough to dent Boeing's grip and they all ended up in RAF service as air tankers and personnel transports.
I saw BOAC's VC10's at BOG airport as a teenager.
During the cold war, used to travel on VC-10 from Kinross - Gutersloh, thee passenger seats faced backwards ~ lovely aircraft.
Yeah, trouble was, Airports/governments realized just how important being able to handle 707s was, so rather than waiting for something like a VC10 that could fly in anyway, they built runway extensions and all the facilities to handle DC-8s and 707s.
The VC-10 record is influenced by tailwinds. Not so much the indicated airspeed.
Also the VC-10 didn’t sell well. They only sold 17 more planes than the Convair 990!
RavingMadJock dropping through the clouds and suddenly remember that we were facing the tail, never got use to that
Every new Mustard's video is as small Christmas's present. What professionally created vids, graphic, scenario...etc it is incredible. Even big tv channels have less pro videos/tv shows.
That narrator voice at 2:48. So awesome.
Your quality just keeps going up. Just add some more British and Soviet era stuff :D
Could've also adding up other non major coutries like Brazil, India or even perhaps Yugoslavia to the list as well.
Bayofthe91st Brazil, yea, please do about my loved country
The windows into Soviet tech are always so fascinating to me.
If you guys know any other good TH-camrs covering Soviet tech lemme know.
The Convair 990 was such a cool aircraft! I flew on it twice: New York (Idlewild, now JFK) to Dallas on an American 990 in 1962 and Seattle to Anchorage on an Alaska 990A in 1968 (signage was in both English and Portuguese as the plane was originally VARIG Brazil).
Alaska had 1 880-no 990s
@@georgegage7138 Alaska did lease a 990 for s short time in the late 60's, pending arrival of their first B727's.
I flew to Las Vegas on a Delta L-1011. The pilot told me he flew a Convair 880 that was later sold to Elvis. He said it was a fast jet but it was a gas hog.
Floyd R. Turbo Somehow I don't see Elvis as the type to worry about fuel consumption.
Yes. The only 880 left that could potentially be restored to flyable condition is sitting in Elvis's front yard in Memphis.
@@ThatBoomerDude56 They cut the wings and tail off to move it to its current location, then crudely bolted them back together. It'll never fly again.
@@s.sestric9929 I had not heard that. But it makes no difference. It should never fly again anyway. The engines are ancient and have been sitting in the weather for over 50 years and it would just not be worth doing anything with anyway. If it were to ever be able to fly again, I certainly would NOT go along for a ride.
Peter Kosen it probably wouldn’t make it half way
I am a simple man, I see a Mustard upload, I immediately press play
The domestically operated CV-990s, along with other aircraft types, were forced into retirement when new noise regulations took effect at the end of 1984. Up until then, a few 990s were still operating for travel clubs and charter airlines. Great video!
I freaking love when you post
I don't like the wait.
It bothers me far more than it should that Kirino has her hair clip on the wrong side
(Feeling sad ;( )
*sees Mustard new video*
(Feeling :) )
I only turn notifications on for the most important of channels. Your's is one of them.
Not only an incredibly interesting and well made video, but you included one of the smoothest transitions to an ad ever!
NASA was able to purchase the 990 that was used for FAA's certification process for a good price and this aircraft was converted to become the first large flying observatory "Galileo." Advantage for Convair they can sell it without installing seats and upholstery. NASA advantage is they can get a airplane ready to install telescopes and special windows. This was a huge boost for airborne science so astronomers can load up cameras and stuff and go above much of the atmosphere to where ever for solar eclipses. Also do spectral observations of various stars.
Just so you know there is a Conveir 990 at Palma De Mallorca airport its been motheballed since Spantax stopped operating, she is looking pretty sad. (EC-BZO
Timing is everything. And I'm pretty sure my ex had a Convair hair drier. 😉
Robert Emerson
Think you mean Conair, lol
Conair
Kyle Sekenski with Nick Cage?
@@LancasterResponding Man of culture
It must have been a Convair Fanvair made by GE CJ805 ultra-mini turbofans
The modelling is fantastic
It has that satisfying graining artificial feel like they made the simulations the time of and it’s so nice
As one fellow ahead-of-its-time and underappreciated airliner to another, you gotta believe I love this video. The Convair was like a sporty, luxury car, for a market that wasn't ready for it. Just like me...
Thank you very much for the Convair story!! Greetings from Moscow, Russia! ;-)
IT’S A MUSTARD VIDEO!
LET US SING! REJOICE! DANCE!
Enjoyed the video. It brought back many memories. I flew many times on Convair 880's. The crew loved them and were very comfortable to fly on between Houston, Chicago and New York City. Only problem was they were fuel hogs. Other than an occasional DC8, they were replaced by 727's. To this day, I still hate 727's.
AJ, what exactly did you dislike about the 727? The three-holer was one of the most successful airliners of all time. It also cruised faster than today's high tech cattle cars.
I do agree with high tech cattle car :). I swear every one I flew in was piloted by a Navy pilot trying to land on the carrier Hornet. One evening Braniff flight from Dallas to Houston, I swear he never lowered his flaps, hit the ground so hard and fast that several oxygen masks dropped down. One Delta fight from NYC to New Orleans, the air conditioning was pumping heat. I touched my wet towel to a side panel and the water from it evaporated it was so hot. I just was never comfortable in one, coach or first class. 737's are cattle cars. My favorites will have been DC8's, DC10's, L1011's, the original DC9 Super 80's (MuseAir) and CV880's. Smooth, problem free easy rides for the business traveler.
I had the wonderful opportunity to fly on an AA 990 from SF to Chicago in grammar school It looks sharper and looks more energetic and faster that the others too. Thanks Mustard for doing the video.
I've never even been on an aircraft yet this channel is produced so well, I can't stop watching!
One of these supposedly broke the sound barrier
Hello Mr. Mustard. We meet again.
Always talking about the less mainstream jets. That's everything and gives them the credit they deserves.
British Airways: "Hold my tea"
Push me Dennis
The concordes supersonic and this videos about the fastest subsonic airliner
Hold my cwoffe
British Airways didn't build the Concorde
@@sebastiano4906 bri'sh airways and a french company did
Looks like you've gained around 4K subs in two days. Keep it up man, the TH-cam algorithms are really showing you love right now 👍🏾
Wish I had money to help support TH-camrs. This is one channel that definitely deserves it with the quality they produce.
Oh my gosh, this is so beautiful!
I remember subscribing when you had 24k subs. Now, look!
I like these type of videos their interesting and entertaining
3D Design and Motion production is so nice in each video
Anyone else just come to Mustard and replay vids over and over while waiting with anticipation for the newest video to drop? Or am I the weird one?
The 3D render of the Convair has a livery similar to the the American Airlines Astrojet livery. Classic.
It probably is, though.
I really love the "animations" in your videos.I hope you can create like 1 in every week...but it might be hard..
Another fantastic video :D
Living this channel,,,I grew up in the 70s hence flew on Trident British Airways,, DC from Switzerland,,,Boeing 747 Wardair to Canada,,,,,,Awesome channel,,,big Thanx for your hard work,,
I'm not sure how you do this. Your graphics are outstanding. 70-year old planes in HD CGI. Unreal. Thanks.
Am I the only one here who wants to do 3d animation now because of these videos ?