for the millionth time this needs to be said! NOBODY forced liam to marry steffi. he wasnt drugged or tied up. he couldve said no. hope is so sure things wouldve been different had she been there. maybe maybe not. i dont think she really believes that or she wouldnt be so damn insecure
for the millionth of time try to understand that liam doesnt think with the up head. only with down head. he has two women with no self respect and go from one to the other because he can. because those two girls allows him to do it. there is no real love between the 3 of them. only an on and on and on contest who will win every time. logans or forrester. and liam enjoy all the sex
@@clairelally3644 thank you very much Steffy insinuated her self in Liam's relationship from the beginning knowing well he was engaged to Hope bt she nor Bill didn't care about that why becoz Steffy cud have offer Liam sex wayyyy quicker than Hope would and all Hope was trying to do is show wat many young women today are having problems with becoz men believe they doh want cat in bag
@@maryhafiku3912 Liam knew fully well he didn't have to marry Steffy that day on top of that mountain. He could've told Steffy no. He could've said Steffy, why are we rushing? Why are we getting married and neither of our families are here. My dad isn't here. Your dad isn't here to walk you down the isle. Your mom isn't here either. What about Thomas and Stephanie and Eric? They should be here. We shouldn't get married without them. He could've said anything like that but he didn't.
@@clairelally3644 Steffy did not manipulate Liam, he is not a twelve year old boy. He was not forced to propose to Steffy He was not forced to marry her. Steffy manipulated the environment, to prevent Hope from interupting the wedding but Liam was not manipulated at all. Liam USED Steffy to feel better when Hope dumped him, that's what happened. Liam is the user and manipulator NOT Steffy.
Don't sign the papers! You have a right to a divorce! He wants to be with another woman whom he claims to love then so be it! Only after the divorce! Steffy makes herself clear!
I hate how everyone acts like Hope is so innocent and sweet. Steffy makes it known that she doesn't like Hope, but Hope disregards Steffys feelings and honestly secretly loves it when Steffy is hurting. The annulment is so insensitive. The marriage happened. Liam loved Steffy and Steffy loved him despite how it all happened. Just wait for a divorce... they are too used to getting what they want. If Hope and Liam were so sure of each other they could wait 6 months. It ain't that long. Liam can be with Hope and he can marry her... in 6 months.
Can we also deny the fact, that Brooke has a beautiful and sweet relationship with Hope ? The difference between Brooke and Taylor ? Steffy and Taylor ? Hope and Brooke are warm, soft and sweet.
Yes Brooke Hope did do something wrong, going after someone else’s husband is wrong !!! But then you’ve done this all your life, you justify everything you’ve ever done wrong ! It will come back on you Brooke and Hope , it always does.
There are many men in the world right now who dream of having two silly women just like Steffy and Hope. Then there are women out there who are just like Steffy and Hope.
Taylor and ridge 💞 and bill ♥️ need to mind their own business for once they could never keep a relationship so these hypocrititcal windbag s need to stop interfering with hope ♥️ and Liam's 💚 life together 💯💕♥️❤️💚💜💛💛💛💛💛
@Nellie Cooper Hope really thought Steffy was gonna sign those annulment papers. She saw the emotional state Steffy was in when she got the papers. She really thought she was gonna sign the annulment papers. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and it was the other way around, Hope wasn't signing a damn thing.
So? All Steffy did was create an environment AWAY from Hope. Liam is not 12 years old. He was not forced to propose to Steffy He was not forced to marry Steffy Liam made a choice and now wants to back out of it for the LAMEST reasons.
@@maryhafiku3912 She stormed into Liam's office and berated him for wanting an annulment! She kept demanding to know whether he had considered Steffy's feelings. Then she went to Hope to demand that she be sensitive to Steffy's feelings, even though Steffy never did that for Hope.
@@maryhafiku3912 Absolutely correct. Brooke is absolutely obsessed with her daughter. Taylor didn't make Steffy work on the top floor at Forrester. And if we want to enumerate the number of times Brooke, unlike Taylor, makes the decisions for her daughter and puts everything and everyone out of the way for her, it stands 100 to 1
Exactly!!!! Liam hasn't proposed yet but they are already planning a wedding. It had been all of 24 hours. I find it incredibly crazy how these Logans just expect someone to get over a marriage in one fell swoop. Just because a marriage is over doesn't mean your feelings for that person is over. Love doesn't work that way.
Taylor is a therapist but I think she needs some time on the couch herself. Your daughter went after a man that was involved with someone else. She gets what she deserves.
Sara P thank you everybody talking shit bout Hope yet they won't call out Steffy on her shit she interfered in Liam relationship after Bill dumped her easy ass
Congratulations 🎉👏👍 ❤️ hope ♥️ and Liam ♥️ awsome epic amazing priceless episode 👌🌸 🙌😇😇 steffy 💔 deserve s all the karma coming her way when she used lies and manipulation to marry Liam ♥️💛 and her and Thomas drugged hope ♥️💜 to keep her and Liam ♥️ 💛 apart Liam ♥️💛 realized he wants hope 💛💜not liar conartist hypocrite steffy 💔
Contrary to all the claims of Ho Lo fans, Liam at least doesn't deny that he loves both women. He could have just said to Ridge that he loves Steffy less than Hope, but he didn't.
Ridge why didn't you go to Liam when your ho daugher went after Liam when he was engaged to Hope but that's alright because Steffy is your daughter. Ridge go amd mind your own business like Taylor should.
Hope had a lot of nerve she made the decision to give him the ring back then demandshim back that was bad enough but to tell him to annual the marriage as if never existed
And this is where I lose all respect for Dope. She is absolutely no better than her Smother. She should have stayed out of Liam's and Steffy relationship. Liam was so stupid to think Steffy would have signed anything nullifying her marriage to him when it meant everything to her. You can't make one woman happy on the misery of another ultimately you LOSE. Hope deserved everything she gets...Fake sainthood comes crashing down soon.
It is so immature of Hope to only believe in her values when she gets what she wants. But when she doesn't get what she wants, she abandons her values and beliefs and questions herself because of a man. It shows what a weak personality she has. Steffy is stronger and is more of a woman than Hope will ever be. At least Steffy has grown... Hope is still the same childish girl as always.
I had to fast forward not to vomit when Liam said he loved being married to Steffy. He was always thinking about that scumbag hope. Same like her mother. Standing there watching Steffy hold the divorce papers.... Like a vulture waiting for the prey to fall before attacking. Really discusting. I never liked her.
Hope never learns. Everytime she Hope get in Steffy's face with that smug sanctimonious attitude, it makes Steffy wants to take whatever Hope has 10 times more. You got Liam back Hope, congratulations. Now leave Steffy alone. But no, just had to poke the bear.
@@clairelally3644 why when she wanted to show Hope she cud have the man whenever she wanted bt as Liam told Steffy he had plans he had a great life before the manipulations but war he needed to tell Steffy was he had a great life before Steffy came along
Saralookon u are so correct she's the last person to give such becoz she herself cudnt keep Ridge and Taylor knew this wud happen becoz she did ask Liam and Steffy if they were sure becoz she found it was to soon for them to be engaged after Hope left her ring bt all Steffy wanted was to keep Hope from reach Liam to explain and this is the end result of rushing into tings
Why should Hope have any regard for Steffy at all , after the way she interfered in her relationship and engagement long before their "wedding" in Aspen ? Someone interferes in your relationship and you'll just take it on the chin ? Hope was too kind if you ask me . I personally wouldn't have given a damn . But of course this is a soap opera .
It's just like what Steffy accused Bill of all these yrs later. "U confuse love with leverage". Guess what, Steffy?! U & Bill are the same. And u confuse it too! 😐
Taylor go and get a life. Stay out of Liam's life. Taylor you didn't mind when Steffy went after Liam when he was engaged to Hope.. So go and mind your own business.
Hope I am your fun but your starting to annoy me by saying stupid staff apologying to staffy for what??? for the straighten she went through to break up your relationship with Liam I don't understand
I can't believe hope thought Steffy would sign those annulment
Taylor hit the nail on the head when she said they're assuming Steffy will sign the papers
taylor can say and think what she wants,if was the other way around she and steffy would have demand Hope to do it.
for the millionth time this needs to be said! NOBODY forced liam to marry steffi. he wasnt drugged or tied up. he couldve said no. hope is so sure things wouldve been different had she been there. maybe maybe not. i dont think she really believes that or she wouldnt be so damn insecure
And if steffy was so secure she wouldn't have done half the things she did to snag the man.
for the millionth of time try to understand that liam doesnt think with the up head. only with down head. he has two women with no self respect and go from one to the other because he can. because those two girls allows him to do it. there is no real love between the 3 of them. only an on and on and on contest who will win every time. logans or forrester. and liam enjoy all the sex
@@natalierose881 💯💯💯💯
I don’t get why everybody is blaming Steffy. Lame boy is the one who ask her to marry him.
She and Bill manipulated him!
@@clairelally3644 thank you very much Steffy insinuated her self in Liam's relationship from the beginning knowing well he was engaged to Hope bt she nor Bill didn't care about that why becoz Steffy cud have offer Liam sex wayyyy quicker than Hope would and all Hope was trying to do is show wat many young women today are having problems with becoz men believe they doh want cat in bag
Lori Koenig I agree, how did the ring get on her finger Liam? They let this guy get away with way too much.
@@maryhafiku3912 Liam knew fully well he didn't have to marry Steffy that day on top of that mountain. He could've told Steffy no. He could've said Steffy, why are we rushing? Why are we getting married and neither of our families are here. My dad isn't here. Your dad isn't here to walk you down the isle. Your mom isn't here either. What about Thomas and Stephanie and Eric? They should be here. We shouldn't get married without them. He could've said anything like that but he didn't.
@@clairelally3644 Steffy did not manipulate Liam, he is not a twelve year old boy.
He was not forced to propose to Steffy
He was not forced to marry her.
Steffy manipulated the environment, to prevent Hope from interupting the wedding but Liam was not manipulated at all.
Liam USED Steffy to feel better when Hope dumped him, that's what happened.
Liam is the user and manipulator NOT Steffy.
These are the type situations where it is none of the parents business.
Agreed !!!!!
agreed
No wonder women make the choice to stay single until their true king comes along. I would and do!
Inger Rogers that’s why I’m single
Period
Amen, Hallelujah
Ridge?! Came on...out, go go go👎
Facts. ….
Don't sign the papers! You have a right to a divorce! He wants to be with another woman whom he claims to love then so be it! Only after the divorce! Steffy makes herself clear!
I hate how everyone acts like Hope is so innocent and sweet. Steffy makes it known that she doesn't like Hope, but Hope disregards Steffys feelings and honestly secretly loves it when Steffy is hurting. The annulment is so insensitive. The marriage happened. Liam loved Steffy and Steffy loved him despite how it all happened. Just wait for a divorce... they are too used to getting what they want. If Hope and Liam were so sure of each other they could wait 6 months. It ain't that long. Liam can be with Hope and he can marry her... in 6 months.
Ashlee So true !!!
Yeah ,they are taking selfishness to another level ‼️
I love the wayTaylor ripped Liam a new one!
It's not going to happen
Ashlee… so well stated. Cheers
Lol Ridge giving Liam the Waffling Seal of Approval
Can we also deny the fact, that Brooke has a beautiful and sweet relationship with Hope ? The difference between Brooke and Taylor ? Steffy and Taylor ? Hope and Brooke are warm, soft and sweet.
Brooke try’s to control Hopes life. 2023 look at her still doing it
Brooke is a control freak nothing sweet about that. Brooke and Hope two peas in a pod co trol freaks yuck
Like mother like daughter: 2 daughter's in love with the same guy just like their mothers, who thought that dumb sht up?
Caucasians
@@megatrontheeloheim5071racist much?
Yes Brooke Hope did do something wrong, going after someone else’s husband is wrong !!! But then you’ve done this all your life, you justify everything you’ve ever done wrong ! It will come back on you Brooke and Hope , it always does.
Back nd forth these ladies with Lame 🤣🤣🤣
It's Liam !!!!
There are many men in the world right now who dream of having two silly women just like Steffy and Hope. Then there are women out there who are just like Steffy and Hope.
Even though this is a soap and fictional storyline there are ppl who actually live their lives just like these characters
@@blairf7118 very true
Taylor with all that crying suffering and yelling over Ridge .She still has learned nothing afterd all thus time.
Hope said she’s won’t tie the wedding to the line and her ‘ values’ n yet does it anyway lol
Taylor and ridge 💞 and bill ♥️ need to mind their own business for once they could never keep a relationship so these hypocrititcal windbag s need to stop interfering with hope ♥️ and Liam's 💚 life together 💯💕♥️❤️💚💜💛💛💛💛💛
What about Brooke
Hhh he said he loves being married to Steffy oh these old episodes 🤣🤣🤣
@Nellie Cooper Hope really thought Steffy was gonna sign those annulment papers. She saw the emotional state Steffy was in when she got the papers. She really thought she was gonna sign the annulment papers. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and it was the other way around, Hope wasn't signing a damn thing.
But it was a MISTAKE Steffy wouldn't have Never married him if Hope met Liam at the top of the mountain
nobody knows that for sure!! liam did NOT have to marry her that day. he couldve have said no.
So?
All Steffy did was create an environment AWAY from Hope.
Liam is not 12 years old.
He was not forced to propose to Steffy
He was not forced to marry Steffy
Liam made a choice and now wants to back out of it for the LAMEST reasons.
And that's why Steffy trapped her in the Gondola.
Lol man this triangle so messy. Liam, Hope and Steffy were 3 very emotionally unstable people
I think Liam,Steffy and Hope needs counseling instead of getting marry
Will the triangle of laim steffy and hope ever end
Yeah in 2018
I quit watching in 2012 when Susan Flannery & Ronn Moss left. I couldn't take it anymore. Sad too, I used to LOVE this show back in its glory days.
Once again Taylor is committing all the crimes of which she has accused Brooke (I. E. Trying to shield Steffy from pain)!
At least Taylor is not obsessed with her daughter’s life.
Brooke and Rick went plead for Hope’s case.
@@maryhafiku3912 She stormed into Liam's office and berated him for wanting an annulment! She kept demanding to know whether he had considered Steffy's feelings. Then she went to Hope to demand that she be sensitive to Steffy's feelings, even though Steffy never did that for Hope.
@@clairelally3644 Exactly ! It's amazing how people choose not to see that .
@@maryhafiku3912 Absolutely correct. Brooke is absolutely obsessed with her daughter. Taylor didn't make Steffy work on the top floor at Forrester. And if we want to enumerate the number of times Brooke, unlike Taylor, makes the decisions for her daughter and puts everything and everyone out of the way for her, it stands 100 to 1
logans hate to lose
-Let's SEE- "LIAM SPENCER's' weddings- One- CRASH And 'Burned"!, Two- Crash And 'BURNED"! ! ,THREE- CRASH, and Burned!! 'It's 'Sad"!!, and RIDICULOUS. why "B & B' writers "Dislike' Liam Spencer so Much?
Steffy and Bill hated not more as losing.
Why can't these mothers stay out of their grown children's lives.
Hang on Logans has liam even proposes yet???
Exactly!!!! Liam hasn't proposed yet but they are already planning a wedding. It had been all of 24 hours. I find it incredibly crazy how these Logans just expect someone to get over a marriage in one fell swoop. Just because a marriage is over doesn't mean your feelings for that person is over. Love doesn't work that way.
Taylor do the SAME thing she accused Brooke of ....LOL
Taylor is a therapist but I think she needs some time on the couch herself. Your daughter went after a man that was involved with someone else. She gets what she deserves.
His first born...
First off all Liam is a man can think for itself
Sara P thank you everybody talking shit bout Hope yet they won't call out Steffy on her shit she interfered in Liam relationship after Bill dumped her easy ass
Neesha Anthony
Crazy isn’t it. They act like Hope and Liam were not together before Steffy threw herself at him.
@@cias_food no dey act just like steffy,i cud only imagine wat them so accepts and does in there own life
Congratulations 🎉👏👍 ❤️ hope ♥️ and Liam ♥️ awsome epic amazing priceless episode 👌🌸 🙌😇😇 steffy 💔 deserve s all the karma coming her way when she used lies and manipulation to marry Liam ♥️💛 and her and Thomas drugged hope ♥️💜 to keep her and Liam ♥️ 💛 apart Liam ♥️💛 realized he wants hope 💛💜not liar conartist hypocrite steffy 💔
Contrary to all the claims of Ho Lo fans, Liam at least doesn't deny that he loves both women. He could have just said to Ridge that he loves Steffy less than Hope, but he didn't.
if a man had told me that he loves an other woman too except me i would have gone so far away for him. how can hope and stefy go along with that?
@@Blackwolf.777 I agree with you 100%. No woman with self-esteem has to tolerate something like that.
Taylor set such a bad example for her daughter
Steffy grew up under ridge's roof with brooke as her stepmother. These were her impressionable years.
Ridge why didn't you go to Liam when your ho daugher went after Liam when he was engaged to Hope but that's alright because Steffy is your daughter. Ridge go amd mind your own business like Taylor should.
This whole series is about interfering parents..its ridiculous
Hope had a lot of nerve she made the decision to give him the ring back then demandshim back that was bad enough but to tell him to annual the marriage as if never existed
And this is where I lose all respect for Dope. She is absolutely no better than her Smother. She should have stayed out of Liam's and Steffy relationship. Liam was so stupid to think Steffy would have signed anything nullifying her marriage to him when it meant everything to her. You can't make one woman happy on the misery of another ultimately you LOSE. Hope deserved everything she gets...Fake sainthood comes crashing down soon.
I have always said Hope deserves every bit of misery that she gets. She is such a phony hypocrite.
I love your comments and chain of thought..agree completely..this is where I lose respect for LOPE...full STEAM ahead.
@@stellacampbell154 Thank you fellow shipper😊😊
Cancan Smith exactly so hope Girl bye you started Steffy just always finish it really sad that hope could ever measured up
Liam went to her, not the other way around!
It is so immature of Hope to only believe in her values when she gets what she wants. But when she doesn't get what she wants, she abandons her values and beliefs and questions herself because of a man. It shows what a weak personality she has. Steffy is stronger and is more of a woman than Hope will ever be. At least Steffy has grown... Hope is still the same childish girl as always.
I had to fast forward not to vomit when Liam said he loved being married to Steffy. He was always thinking about that scumbag hope. Same like her mother. Standing there watching Steffy hold the divorce papers.... Like a vulture waiting for the prey to fall before attacking. Really discusting. I never liked her.
Yes Hope everything you’ve ever wanted someone else’s husband, like mother, like daughter !!!!
Hope never learns. Everytime she Hope get in Steffy's face with that smug sanctimonious attitude, it makes Steffy wants to take whatever Hope has 10 times more. You got Liam back Hope, congratulations. Now leave Steffy alone. But no, just had to poke the bear.
Taylor giving marital advice? Really Tay?
Taylor is actually right. Liam's problem is that he runs back and forth between Steffy and Hope too quickly. Liam loves Steffy.
@@joandemmerritte5615 No, he never stopped loving Hope. Steffy should have accepted that and bowed out gracefully!
@@clairelally3644 why when she wanted to show Hope she cud have the man whenever she wanted bt as Liam told Steffy he had plans he had a great life before the manipulations but war he needed to tell Steffy was he had a great life before Steffy came along
Saralookon u are so correct she's the last person to give such becoz she herself cudnt keep Ridge and Taylor knew this wud happen becoz she did ask Liam and Steffy if they were sure becoz she found it was to soon for them to be engaged after Hope left her ring bt all Steffy wanted was to keep Hope from reach Liam to explain and this is the end result of rushing into tings
Brooke shouldn't her self
@boldandbeautiful.. Is there away u can let the mobile users view?
Why should Hope have any regard for Steffy at all , after the way she interfered in her relationship and engagement long before their "wedding" in Aspen ? Someone interferes in your relationship and you'll just take it on the chin ? Hope was too kind if you ask me . I personally wouldn't have given a damn . But of course this is a soap opera .
Ridge the seed you sow your children reap you hurt Taylor over and over now Liam huring your daughter
It's just like what Steffy accused Bill of all these yrs later. "U confuse love with leverage". Guess what, Steffy?! U & Bill are the same. And u confuse it too! 😐
Oliwer lofe juu hope
Taylor, out. Go go go...OMG👎
Taylor go and get a life. Stay out of Liam's life. Taylor you didn't mind when Steffy went after Liam when he was engaged to Hope.. So go and mind your own business.
I do agree with Taylor Liam,Steffy and Hope do needs counseling
Steffy is in fantasy world
Taylor and those lip fillers....Lawd! Why?
liam wants always hope he not want steffy he leaves steffy but bill with his liar steffy is very sick was really a crap
Being in love with two women does not make Liam right. Make a damn choice and stick to it, Liam! Wishy, washy ass.
Logans hate to lose they always have to win
Liam you are a hypocrite and hope is one thing she is too young for married with you
Hope and Brooke are worst than bible-thumping hypocrites; say one thing, and practices another. Wow!
And Steffy is a lier and a malnipulater..And she had no right to hit on Liam when he was engaged to Hope.And kiss him in the car so Hope could see..
But the scripts of this soapie are irritating and very biased - why are the Logans always getting away with everything ? It's strange
Hope I am your fun but your starting to annoy me by saying stupid staff apologying to staffy for what??? for the straighten she went through to break up your relationship with Liam I don't understand
Brooke do you want Liam for yourself? You keep push Liam and Hope together