Christo, I love the clear and concise instructions contained in your excellent Miracle OTT download! I’m probably just like everyone else,in that I have spent years guarding AGAINST swinging “over the top “. Now, having observed the swings of the past golfing greats, I SEE that they pretty much all had swing elements of being “over the top “. Guys, do yourselves a favor and get Christo’s fantastic instruction download. It’s early in the golfing year and learning from Christo is better than trying to figure it out on the range by yourself ( like I started doing!). Thank you,Christo,may the “evolution “ continue!👍🏽
Hi Charlie! I am so honored. The Evolution continues and so does the research. Thank you for your kind words. I'm wondering now when the fear-mongering was started with the "over the top" description. Most all the greats from the past swung this way!
@@MiracleSwingExperience can I make a suggestion and please consider it. Get in contact with Michael Broderick.I think you guys could blow up the internet
Christo this is awesome! Been doing this for about a year now because Mike Malaska and Dan Alton also teach this. It has changed my game and brought me back to my swing I had as a kid. Scores are back to low 70s. So cool to see more people discovering this move and how simple and natural it is. Hit them long and straight and enjoy the journey.
I remember going to the range one day and started messing around as well. I started swinging what felt like OTT and I began hitting compressed 7 iron shots like I never have before. It felt like I was really coming OTT and thought there was no way this is supposed to work. I was hitting ball first, taking a divot, and my ball flight started out low and pierced up through the air while making a whooshing sound. I knew that this was something I had never felt before and this was the way I was actually supposed to be hitting the ball. I didn't have access to a range for the next month because of a work trip and when I finally did, I could never find that swing again. It's been a year and I'm still searching for that swing. Your video is the closest thing I've found that replicates the feeling of OTT and the result. Hopefully I can figure it out again.
Christo I watch your videos religiously ever since I picked up golf last year. I found one of your videos when I was trying to copy Sam Sneads swing, it was a video called best swing ever? were you said Sam took it inside Up and over the top. I took it to the range and it felt like my swing was flat and tight, but every time I hit a ball it was solid and just made a long shallow divot. Ever since then my swing feels like a dance, pressure in the left foot swap pressure into the right heel ,turn, then on the downswing put pressure in the left foot, pull the left hip back in level with the right hip and fire hard as I can and it comes out almost the way I want it every time. Thank you Christo! For giving me the key to my swing.
Once again great job. Years ago I wrote you telling you I liked your knowledge of Hogan. I played that swing for many years until another pro talked me into altering for distance. I still won with the changes but now with your OTT video I went back to my original over the top Hogan and it's perfect and comfortable. Thanks for your insight.
ive finally achived my rotation today after i got home from work i went to practice i allways film my self and i finally did it today and its different but im going to ingrain it fully now its like wow moment and i felt sad after i did it cause ive worked so hard for it and finally did it what worked for me was different than what you were doing but i do notice a slight OTT motion in the film of me and it get lots of rotation so im glad and glad to see your getting better thanks christo.
Solid swing Christo! I’ve always brought it up on the inside and people always try to change it, then I drive past them and I think, I’ll just keep doing this.
Tell ya what dude, ya got it going on. I'm 59 years old, took up the game at 25, was smitten, got a job at a retail golf store, and spent the next 25 years in the business. You've done more to help average golfers, not to mention preserve the legacy of Ben Hogan, than any pro I know of.GREAT JOB !!!!
Christo, do you have another video where you slow down your swing to demonstrate the OTT? To the naked eye - even slowed down on YT, your looks the same. Is it me? Please advise.
Hello friend. Best video ever. Playing now with the new over the top swing thought. Genius!! Less stress on my back and mind. Subscribed to your videos. Hope to see more contents like this in the future.
Kudos to you, Christo! I played my best golf swinging like this (OTT) then, in an effort to improve, a few pros over the years told me [essentially] that I would never get better swinging this way (OTT) and I was setting myself up for faults to creep into my swing “without notice” at the worst possible time(s). Enter golfer’s elbow, fat shots, failing to get off my back foot on the downswing, timing issues, etc., etc. Finally, I said, “the heck with the ‘modern swing’,” and went back to swinging OTT, because I found I could ALWAYS feel my weight shift to my lead side on the downswing and it was also much easier for me to deloft the club face and compress my shots when the ball was on the ground. Thanks for bringing me back to reality. If OTT was good enough for Bobby Jones, it must not be a bad way to swing. Correct?
This actually got me thinking of Moe Norman video clip I saw the other day. When asked why he lines up with his club behind the ball so far he said "for one I'm already in my turn, and 2 I can't, CANT, take the club outside if I try and take it outside I'll fall over". Never really thought of that before but modern instruction is really pushing a perfectly square to slightly outside take away but Moe specifically setup in a way to prevent a square/outside take away. 🤔
Hey Cristo!!! Good stuff!!! I do belueve it would be helpful for you to do a video comparing your old swing to your new swing and breaking it down as the changes you are describing are somewhat subtle and and probably best understood usunderstood using a clear visual aid. Also, did Hogan have a OTT swing? I believe he actually did...
I've been trying it... it used to scare me to let the club come in on my backswing, because of so many pushes and shanks it used to cause for me... once I figured out what was actually causing those bad results, it was real easy to hit quality shots, especially because I wasnt focused so much on preventing the club from coming inside on my backswing!! I swear, forever, it seemed I was really "backswing focused". I found it real easy and natural to bring it back like you do it and dont think about that at all. And I hit a lot of nice powerful effortless straight to slight fades with all my clubs instead of only getting it dialed for one club and then hitting a lot of bad shots with the next club. Totally feels like I found something that had been lost for a long time.
Hey Christo - hope you've been doing well. This is intersting. Gonna try it. Maybe explains why I hit a wall a long time ago. My swing thought is the up and in backswing followed by the down and under downswing. I'm now thinking those two are not compatable! Also, this swing puts my weight shift in a funky place, since the down and under makes you want to hang back. Also, side note, when I do come OTT [by mistake] and pull one, it's always the longest most solid shot ever. So yeah, this is making sense. Will give this a whirl. Call it swing thought #1 million. :)
Hi I have had the same experience with the pulled shot powerful straight but left lol but cannot do it on purpose I am trying to find this pull by opening my stance a little which worked today on the range Cheers from uk
With the OTT swing, obviously you're making solid ball contact while maximizing ball smash factor. Would like to know if you're planning to incorporate a TRACKMAN (or launch monitor) as well as swing analysis software in future videos. Thank you
Have you seen the Reflex Convex swing by Chewing Sai Fah? It is about keeping convex bowed shaft all the way through impact using rotary action derived from hammer throwers technique. Incredible distance with relaxed arms, too. No perceptible hit with arms at all...
@@MiracleSwingExperience No, it is not with bent arms. It is built from a combination of Hogan ideas and Mindy Blake ideas to power the swing with the legs and fast rotation of the body. You end up walking through the shot like Gary Player, and the club doesn't overtake the hands until around 3 o'clock as opposed to 5 o'clock. I have been trying your OTT swing and funny enough had great success with the driver. I have a hard time not pulling the irons, and I tend to hood the ball like you.
Cristo, miracle swing to say the least, went to the range after taking the winter off.. from the first shot to the last shot unless I intentionally tried to make a bad move, it was pure with ball flights that I haven't seen before ever, tour launch high and deep.
Christo need help! Does the SkLz swing trainer can help me with the timing in your OTT swing? I’ve heard it’s a good tool to get the lagging power sensation .
@@MiracleSwingExperience Is the the Yellow or Orange Ball End stick used to make swings before hitting a club. It has a normal club Grip and is flex like a extra a senior Shaft. You must have seen it sometimes .
I used to swing with this move and had a 6 HP. I wanted to get better and hit it longer so I started trying to hit it from the inside and hit draws, so I took some lessons and totally screwed up my natural move. My swing got so messed up I almost quit playing golf. I’m trying so hard to get this move back and start enjoying our wonderful game again. Great video thanks
Hi Christo! Hello from Taiwan! Ive also been tinkering with my swing lately, and I was just curious to know if you have seen any clubhead speed increase/yd gains after this switch to an OTT swing. To me, speed definitely IS truth and I believe the swing that gets me the fastest mph (under control and without injury) should be the most efficient way to swing a golf club. Thanks!
If you do get a chance, please post a vid about how this change impacted your clubhead speed and any gains you've had with this new move. I'd also be dying to know if this OTT swing works for you outta bunkers or flop shots as well. Tks!
hey christo....do you feel your hips moving faster or the shoulders? what helps you get the swing arch more around you? bcuz it seems like ott move gets you more "covered" at impact
All things old are new again. All of these things were discovered 200 years ago. The Natural swing that is set up properly, feels comfortable because it is. BOBBY taught what he learned from a fine Scottish Master. Moe and Ben and all the great masters are the guys to watch. I like you, learned from BEN. But, I worship BOBBY. I love amateur golf. My swing is as close as I can imitate the tempo and supple motion that BOBBY put on the big screen 100 years ago almost anyhow. You are helping to people to evolve by going old school. LOVE IT BRO!
It was an unseasonable 30 degrees here in NJ today and I couldn't wait to get outside and work on this! Now I feel the sensation of throwing sidearm vs underhand. I'm hooked and a founding member of "OTT Anonymous"!!!😂
@@MiracleSwingExperience it's 11pm and dark out and now 20 degrees...guess I have to go down to the basement. Just hope I don't take another divot out of the carpet like I did last month!
Does this make it hard to hit driver with a positive angle of attack? Seems like this would have the same problems as stack and tilt with hitting down on drives too much and spinning it up losing distance. But hey, if Scottie and Fitzpatrick are doing it then what do I know.
My first range session today with the OTT move....within 3 iron shots I flushed it long and straight. . All of my clubs go further and my driver is now carrying to where it used to finish with my old swing. Best of all this is easy to learn
Is it correct to say the faulty OTT swing that produces an inside out resulting in a slice is the same as the Eureka OTT swing except for ??????? Please elaborate the MAIN difference.
The bad swingers start their OTT swing with the club too close to the ball, meaning they don't get the club deep enough behind them by the time the go over. You have to pull the club back deep so the Over the Top move just brings it back to square.
100% accurate.....I watched two OTT videos yesterday and went out to the range and immediately started flushing shots better and more consistent than ever.
Christo, does it appear that some of the long driver guys , like Kyle Berkshire for instance, come slightly “over the top “ to keep all that pressure on the shaft?
I've never really intentionally tried to swing over the top but I did notice when I started doing some of the speed training protocol with super speed golf my natural motion to produce the most speed was just a slight over the top motion. Again I didn't try and force it that was just the motion that happened when I swung fast. My only issue was I'm typically a bit from the inside and hold off the face, if I swung over the top slightly and also tried holding off the face like normal my strike would get erratic. Edit - I guess I commented too soon because after I posted this you say the exact same thing 🤣
What if you came over the top a bit and didn't hold off the face? It might be square. The reason I say this is the face wants to rotate and "holding off" is resisting what the club wants to do. I know you're a great golfer and you don't need to change anything, but who knows?
@@MiracleSwingExperience yeah I tried it the other day at the range (range just opened this week up here in Utah so haven't swung the club in a while) my fear with releasing fully was obviously a pull or hook, shockingly I hit a nice high shot with a slight fade that went about as far as my little hold off push draw. Mind blowing. Can't wait to get out there again and try it. Would be a game changer for me to be able to hit a soft cut like that against a draw wind.
@@kourt2469 Holy cow. That's a wonderful story, my friend. Thank you for telling me that! Just have fun with it. Maybe it's just a new shot that you can occasionally use. Or, maybe it's even more useful than that!
@@MiracleSwingExperience yeah it definitely felt easier to swing that way. I'm not much of a technical player, always just went off feel but I think I've mostly gotten around the course purely off of hand eye coordination. But adding the little over the top fade shot into the bag could definitely be a great addition to the game. Maybe won't have to fear those tucked right pins as much anymore 🤣
Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t the OTT move working for you because you were dumped under? It’s a feel that would likely work for individuals who are stuck or way in to out. But what about players who are actually OTT? (which isn’t even me, I’m just trying to understand what is revolutionary here).
You are NOT over the top. You are on plan. It may "feel" OTT but, it's not. Im guessing you were over top then went too far the other way. Now you are finding what being on plan feels like.
I note the more curved spine with some “Nicklaus hunch” at the upper back. That will bring your right elbow up and away from your body more - but with longer clubs one tends to set up and swing more upright with less upper back “Nicklaus hunch.” But I would tell someone that maybe they should try to hunch at the upper back even with a long club like a driver... the upper back doesn’t get “pinched” and painful like the lower back.
@@MiracleSwingExperience I note Hogan did not go with much upper back hunch. I think that is an accurate way to swing - good solid mechanics I’d say BUT maybe Nicklaus had figured something out too, a shortcut, a little tweak and enhancement to the Hogan swing. But Hogan didn’t hunch much... but he wasn’t swinging for the fences like Nicklaus...
Your Feet are naturally moving and your turn is so natural and the tempo is a bit fast but you are fundamentally sound, HOGAN but not a rigid robot. A powerful spring that does the job at 80% and can HUNT when called on. Bravo 👏🏻 BOBBY Would say “nice shot” you can do it too!
You have a great swing but I don’t see any OTT movement. I saw it in your practice swings but not when you’re hitting the ball. I enjoy your videos very much. This is my critique, not criticism. Take care !
I concur with this. Clearly the "feel" is OTT, but appears to be more about "exiting left" through/after impact, while still having a very neutral impact position. Seems quite similar to some of the more "current" exit left swings, but a bit flatter. In the end, whatever works to get the best results.
DAMN !!!!!!! After 50 years of golf with less than desirable improvement, I tried this and it IS a miracle! It's like I finally found a pair of shoes that fit correctly. My only regret is I'm 84 but at least I can keep playing and move back off the red tees.
For years I've been working on dropping the club inside, after being frustrated with hitting thin or fat shots I decided to try it. I hit my irons and hybrids better, I even hit my driver much more solid. However, I am now hitting pulls with my driver, I'm not sure why. Maybe I need to weaken my grip or I'm over doing it. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Club still stays shallow but hands go outside of where the hands are on the backswing. The traditional OTT that gets bashed is an very exaggerated over the top with casting where the club come on very steep.
Exactly! It is KJ Choi's swing. Allows his upper body to rotate hard and make no effort stay on or under the backswing plane. His swing always looked over the top to me, but it was due him being less lower body focused than the typical PGA television star swing. The commentators used to always explain his swing as 'self taught' and started golf later in life, etc... All implying... don't swing like this... see your PGA instructor and pay alot of money to try and swing like the television stars, and we know you won't be able to and you will seek salvation with new modern equipment and keep that business going too. You may have uncovered the biggest racket going (and not a tennis reference). Christo you better sleep with one eye open!
Christo, is this swing the same as I have always swung naturally - BUT due to conventional teaching and trying to get 'on plane' I was sabotaging this natural move I was already making???
No matter how you call the move, your swing is fun to watch and sound of impact butter. Isn't it just the greatest when your onto something and it makes you just smack the ball with ease (for a while at least)? It's addictive and one reason we go out there. Keep going, i really enjoy your vids.
Check out moe Norman’s swing. He takes it inside. And downswings above the plane he took it back on- hence OTT over the top of the inside takeaway. It’s inside and over and out to strike the ball.
th-cam.com/video/E8f7Lp3jmI4/w-d-xo.html A good illustration here from my other favorite channel of why the under the plane loop they promote today just isn't natural.
Hi Christo. You do know the PGA won’t be happy with you. Don’t you? Enjoy reading all the wonderful accolades you are receiving. You deserve all of them, ❤️😃⛳️👍🥂Cheers
Christo, I’m 65 years old, with a 72 swing speed, tweaking my swing for over a year, and have gotten worse, I got re-fitted, so I’m good with my clubs, next I’m set to have a swing analysis, next week, then I seen this video, will OTT help me? thank you.
agreed, He's trying to put a 'revolutionary' spin on the golf swing which everything has been done since the inception of the game. This channel has turned into a giant advert. Not knocking his hustle, though, he has some good ideas.
Sorry I can't tell much of a difference between your old swing and your ott swing. Very frustrating for me. Your swing looks great either way. Glad for you! I'm 79 and my body is failing.
This sounds like John Wright’s “Hale Irwin” move from a few years ago. He used it to square his path. Let’s see your numbers on FlightScope. I’d bet your path has become neutral.
Christo, I love the clear and concise instructions contained in your excellent Miracle OTT download! I’m probably just like everyone else,in that I have spent years guarding AGAINST swinging “over the top “. Now, having observed the swings of the past golfing greats, I SEE that they pretty much all had swing elements of being “over the top “. Guys, do yourselves a favor and get Christo’s fantastic instruction download. It’s early in the golfing year and learning from Christo is better than trying to figure it out on the range by yourself ( like I started doing!). Thank you,Christo,may the “evolution “ continue!👍🏽
Hi Charlie! I am so honored. The Evolution continues and so does the research. Thank you for your kind words. I'm wondering now when the fear-mongering was started with the "over the top" description. Most all the greats from the past swung this way!
where is the download to learn the mechanics of this swing? I have to give it a try
@@semmes5342 You can get it here! myswingevolution.com/collections/all-products
@@MiracleSwingExperience can I make a suggestion and please consider it. Get in contact with Michael Broderick.I think you guys could blow up the internet
@@benbirdie561 Are you talking about the actor/producer?
Christo this is awesome! Been doing this for about a year now because Mike Malaska and Dan Alton also teach this. It has changed my game and brought me back to my swing I had as a kid. Scores are back to low 70s. So cool to see more people discovering this move and how simple and natural it is. Hit them long and straight and enjoy the journey.
I remember going to the range one day and started messing around as well. I started swinging what felt like OTT and I began hitting compressed 7 iron shots like I never have before. It felt like I was really coming OTT and thought there was no way this is supposed to work. I was hitting ball first, taking a divot, and my ball flight started out low and pierced up through the air while making a whooshing sound. I knew that this was something I had never felt before and this was the way I was actually supposed to be hitting the ball.
I didn't have access to a range for the next month because of a work trip and when I finally did, I could never find that swing again. It's been a year and I'm still searching for that swing. Your video is the closest thing I've found that replicates the feeling of OTT and the result. Hopefully I can figure it out again.
Christo I watch your videos religiously ever since I picked up golf last year. I found one of your videos when I was trying to copy Sam Sneads swing, it was a video called best swing ever? were you said Sam took it inside Up and over the top. I took it to the range and it felt like my swing was flat and tight, but every time I hit a ball it was solid and just made a long shallow divot.
Ever since then my swing feels like a dance, pressure in the left foot swap pressure into the right heel ,turn, then on the downswing put pressure in the left foot, pull the left hip back in level with the right hip and fire hard as I can and it comes out almost the way I want it every time.
Thank you Christo! For giving me the key to my swing.
And that’s all there is to it! I’m so happy to found it without years of agony!! 🙏🏻😆
@@MiracleSwingExperience I hope we can play golf together one day.
@@trs9014 That’d be cool!
@@kenroyal3527 do you get that feeling?
@@kenroyal3527 I love that. I do think it is dance like.
Once again great job. Years ago I wrote you telling you I liked your knowledge of Hogan. I played that swing for many years until another pro talked me into altering for distance. I still won with the changes but now with your OTT video I went back to my original over the top Hogan and it's perfect and comfortable. Thanks for your insight.
Jay that's absolutely wonderful news! I'm so happy for you!
Love it. You really translated your feels perfectly.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for your hard work and sharing your results.
ive finally achived my rotation today after i got home from work i went to practice i allways film my self and i finally did it today and its different but im going to ingrain it fully now its like wow moment and i felt sad after i did it cause ive worked so hard for it and finally did it what worked for me was different than what you were doing but i do notice a slight OTT motion in the film of me and it get lots of rotation so im glad and glad to see your getting better thanks christo.
It's an evolution after all. Keep at it my friend!
@@MiracleSwingExperience thank you and you too
Solid swing Christo! I’ve always brought it up on the inside and people always try to change it, then I drive past them and I think, I’ll just keep doing this.
Haha!! 😆😆😆 I love it!
When you fade, it's easier!
Dont believe.? try it and see!
@@hoonai This is great 👍🏻
Tell ya what dude, ya got it going on. I'm 59 years old, took up the game at 25, was smitten, got a job at a retail golf store, and spent the next 25 years in the business. You've done more to help average golfers, not to mention preserve the legacy of Ben Hogan, than any pro I know of.GREAT JOB !!!!
Thank you, kindly, Scott! 🙏🏻
Christo, do you have another video where you slow down your swing to demonstrate the OTT? To the naked eye - even slowed down on YT, your looks the same. Is it me? Please advise.
Hello friend.
Best video ever.
Playing now with the new over the top swing thought. Genius!!
Less stress on my back and mind.
Subscribed to your videos. Hope to see more contents like this in the future.
Can’t wait to try this!
Give it a shot, Kenny!
Thank you 😊
Kudos to you, Christo! I played my best golf swinging like this (OTT) then, in an effort to improve, a few pros over the years told me [essentially] that I would never get better swinging this way (OTT) and I was setting myself up for faults to creep into my swing “without notice” at the worst possible time(s). Enter golfer’s elbow, fat shots, failing to get off my back foot on the downswing, timing issues, etc., etc. Finally, I said, “the heck with the ‘modern swing’,” and went back to swinging OTT, because I found I could ALWAYS feel my weight shift to my lead side on the downswing and it was also much easier for me to deloft the club face and compress my shots when the ball was on the ground. Thanks for bringing me back to reality. If OTT was good enough for Bobby Jones, it must not be a bad way to swing. Correct?
Jim, I believing it’s the easiest and best way to compress the ball! Good for you!
This actually got me thinking of Moe Norman video clip I saw the other day. When asked why he lines up with his club behind the ball so far he said "for one I'm already in my turn, and 2 I can't, CANT, take the club outside if I try and take it outside I'll fall over". Never really thought of that before but modern instruction is really pushing a perfectly square to slightly outside take away but Moe specifically setup in a way to prevent a square/outside take away. 🤔
Someone sent me a video that showed Moe having a small but noticeable OTT motion. I was surprised!
@@MiracleSwingExperience even Todd Graves calls it an "in and up motion" in the backswing, which is essentially OTT
good to see your video's I've stumbled into some similar swings nirvana for a week and than lost again..
I love it! THE EPIPHANY!!!
Yes, Thomas! It’s been quite a revelation!!!
love your reactions!!! I can't wait to try my hand at this
Hey Cristo!!! Good stuff!!! I do belueve it would be helpful for you to do a video comparing your old swing to your new swing and breaking it down as the changes you are describing are somewhat subtle and and probably best understood usunderstood using a clear visual aid. Also, did Hogan have a OTT swing? I believe he actually did...
I did a trace of Hogan’s swing and he slightly OTT in the 2 videos I show
Great video! I know you have said this is a slap hinge release. Do you also keep the clubhead above your hands?
Christo,
Have you had a look at Jim Veneto golf swing instructions
On TH-cam?
I've been trying it... it used to scare me to let the club come in on my backswing, because of so many pushes and shanks it used to cause for me... once I figured out what was actually causing those bad results, it was real easy to hit quality shots, especially because I wasnt focused so much on preventing the club from coming inside on my backswing!! I swear, forever, it seemed I was really "backswing focused". I found it real easy and natural to bring it back like you do it and dont think about that at all. And I hit a lot of nice powerful effortless straight to slight fades with all my clubs instead of only getting it dialed for one club and then hitting a lot of bad shots with the next club. Totally feels like I found something that had been lost for a long time.
Nice analogy between a forehand as opposed to the serve!
Thanks, Rick. It's a clear feeling for me so my right hip doesn't jump out in front of me!
I have several of your videos, however I don’t see this one on the website. Where can I find it?
Try the link in the description!
Hey Christo - hope you've been doing well.
This is intersting. Gonna try it.
Maybe explains why I hit a wall a long time ago. My swing thought is the up and in backswing followed by the down and under downswing.
I'm now thinking those two are not compatable! Also, this swing puts my weight shift in a funky place, since the down and under makes you want to hang back.
Also, side note, when I do come OTT [by mistake] and pull one, it's always the longest most solid shot ever.
So yeah, this is making sense.
Will give this a whirl. Call it swing thought #1 million.
:)
Hi I have had the same experience with the pulled shot powerful straight but left lol but cannot do it on purpose
I am trying to find this pull by opening my stance a little which worked today on the range
Cheers from uk
With the OTT swing, obviously you're making solid ball contact while maximizing ball smash factor. Would like to know if you're planning to incorporate a TRACKMAN (or launch monitor) as well as swing analysis software in future videos. Thank you
I’d like to do that!
So is there a YT video I’m missing on OTT or is this one of those where I have to purchase the program in order to understand it better?
I’ve been making videos about this for 2 months
Quick question should I keep the same hip Turn as I would with a 7 Iron and my driver
Good, there are so many instructions, which one is correct? I find it's easier to fade! less mistake!
That’s right!
Check out Jordan Spieth’s preshot routine. He repeats an over the top move to get the feel before he makes his actual swing.
Is there any intentional wrist hinge on the backswing?
Do you have a stronger grip with this move like Couples?
Have you seen the Reflex Convex swing by Chewing Sai Fah? It is about keeping convex bowed shaft all the way through impact using rotary action derived from hammer throwers technique. Incredible distance with relaxed arms, too. No perceptible hit with arms at all...
I have not. Is it with bent arms?
@@MiracleSwingExperience No, it is not with bent arms. It is built from a combination of Hogan ideas and Mindy Blake ideas to power the swing with the legs and fast rotation of the body. You end up walking through the shot like Gary Player, and the club doesn't overtake the hands until around 3 o'clock as opposed to 5 o'clock.
I have been trying your OTT swing and funny enough had great success with the driver. I have a hard time not pulling the irons, and I tend to hood the ball like you.
Cristo, miracle swing to say the least, went to the range after taking the winter off.. from the first shot to the last shot unless I intentionally tried to make a bad move, it was pure with ball flights that I haven't seen before ever, tour launch high and deep.
Christo need help! Does the SkLz swing trainer can help me with the timing in your OTT swing? I’ve heard it’s a good tool to get the lagging power sensation .
I don’t know what that is
@@MiracleSwingExperience Is the the Yellow or Orange Ball End stick used to make swings before hitting a club. It has a normal club Grip and is flex like a extra a senior Shaft. You must have seen it sometimes .
I used to swing with this move and had a 6 HP. I wanted to get better and hit it longer so I started trying to hit it from the inside and hit draws, so I took some lessons and totally screwed up my natural move. My swing got so messed up I almost quit playing golf. I’m trying so hard to get this move back and start enjoying our wonderful game again. Great video thanks
i tried the OTT move on my driver and i smoked a few drives...damn..dont know if i should do the same w my irons..thaks
Try it. It works!!
Hi Christo! Hello from Taiwan!
Ive also been tinkering with my swing lately, and I was just curious to know if you have seen any clubhead speed increase/yd gains after this switch to an OTT swing.
To me, speed definitely IS truth and I believe the swing that gets me the fastest mph (under control and without injury) should be the most efficient way to swing a golf club.
Thanks!
I haven’t measured my swing speed lately but I agree with you!
If you do get a chance, please post a vid about how this change impacted your clubhead speed and any gains you've had with this new move. I'd also be dying to know if this OTT swing works for you outta bunkers or flop shots as well. Tks!
totally cool
hey christo....do you feel your hips moving faster or the shoulders? what helps you get the swing arch more around you? bcuz it seems like ott move gets you more "covered" at impact
Yes, I am more covered. I’m not thinking about my hips very much now.
All things old are new again. All of these things were discovered 200 years ago. The Natural swing that is set up properly, feels comfortable because it is. BOBBY taught what he learned from a fine Scottish Master. Moe and Ben and all the great masters are the guys to watch. I like you, learned from BEN. But, I worship BOBBY. I love amateur golf. My swing is as close as I can imitate the tempo and supple motion that BOBBY put on the big screen 100 years ago almost anyhow.
You are helping to people to evolve by going old school.
LOVE IT BRO!
It was an unseasonable 30 degrees here in NJ today and I couldn't wait to get outside and work on this! Now I feel the sensation of throwing sidearm vs underhand. I'm hooked and a founding member of "OTT Anonymous"!!!😂
Now, try going from sidearm to overhand. It’s subtle but even more powerful!
@@MiracleSwingExperience it's 11pm and dark out and now 20 degrees...guess I have to go down to the basement. Just hope I don't take another divot out of the carpet like I did last month!
Does this make it hard to hit driver with a positive angle of attack? Seems like this would have the same problems as stack and tilt with hitting down on drives too much and spinning it up losing distance. But hey, if Scottie and Fitzpatrick are doing it then what do I know.
Hi Christo, I’ve been watching videos of Count Yogi
It looks like OTT
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Lol awesome Christo thank you and that’s exactly how I felt yesterday. I was like what is going on LOL great stuff :)
Hey, Bro! Thanks for telling me the story. I'm glad I can turn better without crunching my sides!
My first range session today with the OTT move....within 3 iron shots I flushed it long and straight. . All of my clubs go further and my driver is now carrying to where it used to finish with my old swing. Best of all this is easy to learn
Is it correct to say the faulty OTT swing that produces an inside out resulting in a slice is the same as the Eureka OTT swing except for ??????? Please elaborate the MAIN difference.
The bad swingers start their OTT swing with the club too close to the ball, meaning they don't get the club deep enough behind them by the time the go over. You have to pull the club back deep so the Over the Top move just brings it back to square.
100% accurate.....I watched two OTT videos yesterday and went out to the range and immediately started flushing shots better and more consistent than ever.
I've find that it helps to move the average golfers hips better and timing is spot on due to the body rotation
Very cool to know
Christo, does it appear that some of the long driver guys , like Kyle Berkshire for instance, come slightly “over the top “ to keep all that pressure on the shaft?
Probably so, Charlie!
So what's the ott swing?
Over the Top
@@MiracleSwingExperience thx but where in this video explains the move?
Yes, a good golf swing is similar to a tennis serve. I've been saying that for years. Golf is an overhand motion! You're figuring it out for yourself.
How far is the 5 iron going?
I hit one about 190 the other day into a slight headwind.
I've never really intentionally tried to swing over the top but I did notice when I started doing some of the speed training protocol with super speed golf my natural motion to produce the most speed was just a slight over the top motion. Again I didn't try and force it that was just the motion that happened when I swung fast. My only issue was I'm typically a bit from the inside and hold off the face, if I swung over the top slightly and also tried holding off the face like normal my strike would get erratic. Edit - I guess I commented too soon because after I posted this you say the exact same thing 🤣
What if you came over the top a bit and didn't hold off the face? It might be square. The reason I say this is the face wants to rotate and "holding off" is resisting what the club wants to do. I know you're a great golfer and you don't need to change anything, but who knows?
@@MiracleSwingExperience yeah I tried it the other day at the range (range just opened this week up here in Utah so haven't swung the club in a while) my fear with releasing fully was obviously a pull or hook, shockingly I hit a nice high shot with a slight fade that went about as far as my little hold off push draw. Mind blowing. Can't wait to get out there again and try it. Would be a game changer for me to be able to hit a soft cut like that against a draw wind.
@@kourt2469 Holy cow. That's a wonderful story, my friend. Thank you for telling me that! Just have fun with it. Maybe it's just a new shot that you can occasionally use. Or, maybe it's even more useful than that!
@@MiracleSwingExperience yeah it definitely felt easier to swing that way. I'm not much of a technical player, always just went off feel but I think I've mostly gotten around the course purely off of hand eye coordination. But adding the little over the top fade shot into the bag could definitely be a great addition to the game. Maybe won't have to fear those tucked right pins as much anymore 🤣
@@MiracleSwingExperience I believe Hogan said something along the lines of trying to steer the club face is foolish.
Can you hit draws with this swing? Can you show that?
That’s my shot. Bobby Jones and Arnold Palmer hit draws with it.
Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t the OTT move working for you because you were dumped under? It’s a feel that would likely work for individuals who are stuck or way in to out.
But what about players who are actually OTT? (which isn’t even me, I’m just trying to understand what is revolutionary here).
You are NOT over the top. You are on plan. It may "feel" OTT but, it's not. Im guessing you were over top then went too far the other way. Now you are finding what being on plan feels like.
I note the more curved spine with some “Nicklaus hunch” at the upper back. That will bring your right elbow up and away from your body more - but with longer clubs one tends to set up and swing more upright with less upper back “Nicklaus hunch.” But I would tell someone that maybe they should try to hunch at the upper back even with a long club like a driver... the upper back doesn’t get “pinched” and painful like the lower back.
That’s a good note. Thanks!
@@MiracleSwingExperience
I note Hogan did not go with much upper back hunch. I think that is an accurate way to swing - good solid mechanics I’d say BUT maybe Nicklaus had figured something out too, a shortcut, a little tweak and enhancement to the Hogan swing. But Hogan didn’t hunch much... but he wasn’t swinging for the fences like Nicklaus...
Your Feet are naturally moving and your turn is so natural and the tempo is a bit fast but you are fundamentally sound, HOGAN but not a rigid robot. A powerful spring that does the job at 80% and can HUNT when called on. Bravo 👏🏻 BOBBY Would say “nice shot” you can do it too!
You have a great swing but I don’t see any OTT movement. I saw it in your practice swings but not when you’re hitting the ball. I enjoy your videos very much. This is my critique, not criticism. Take care !
I concur with this. Clearly the "feel" is OTT, but appears to be more about "exiting left" through/after impact, while still having a very neutral impact position. Seems quite similar to some of the more "current" exit left swings, but a bit flatter. In the end, whatever works to get the best results.
DAMN !!!!!!! After 50 years of golf with less than desirable improvement, I tried this and it IS a miracle! It's like I finally found a pair of shoes that fit correctly. My only regret is I'm 84 but at least I can keep playing and move back off the red tees.
How far does Christo hit his driver?
For years I've been working on dropping the club inside, after being frustrated with hitting thin or fat shots I decided to try it. I hit my irons and hybrids better, I even hit my driver much more solid. However, I am now hitting pulls with my driver, I'm not sure why. Maybe I need to weaken my grip or I'm over doing it. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Im a bit confused of the OTT swing thing, you say your swinging it over the top but the club is clearly pretty shallow.
Club still stays shallow but hands go outside of where the hands are on the backswing. The traditional OTT that gets bashed is an very exaggerated over the top with casting where the club come on very steep.
This is what Tiger use to do when he was changing his swing
This is also what Speith is currently doing pre shot
Yes, that's true. I experimented several years ago but didn't understand what I was going for.
OK, so can someone tell me in detail what this move encompasses? I keep hearing OTT, but not 100% sure what we’re talking about here
Swing down over the backswing plane
christo check out KJ Choi swing
Exactly! It is KJ Choi's swing. Allows his upper body to rotate hard and make no effort stay on or under the backswing plane. His swing always looked over the top to me, but it was due him being less lower body focused than the typical PGA television star swing. The commentators used to always explain his swing as 'self taught' and started golf later in life, etc... All implying... don't swing like this... see your PGA instructor and pay alot of money to try and swing like the television stars, and we know you won't be able to and you will seek salvation with new modern equipment and keep that business going too. You may have uncovered the biggest racket going (and not a tennis reference). Christo you better sleep with one eye open!
Sam Snead said he felt like his through swing was on the same path as his backswing. Do you feel the same thing or do you feel a loop?
Christo, is this swing the same as I have always swung naturally - BUT due to conventional teaching and trying to get 'on plane' I was sabotaging this natural move I was already making???
No matter how you call the move, your swing is fun to watch and sound of impact butter.
Isn't it just the greatest when your onto something and it makes you just smack the ball with ease (for a while at least)? It's addictive and one reason we go out there. Keep going, i really enjoy your vids.
Christo what’s your club face look like at address. I’m closed, but today I opened it a bit and it seems to make a huge difference.
I'm trying to open my more as well. I can hit a pull if I'm not careful. That's the shot I fight.
I noticed on your previous swings....they look fantastic but the start of your downswing probably needs more left side hip sitting motion to slide in
Those swings don’t look over the top ??
Ott swing been around way back
Yes, my last video I show that it was the dominant style for decades!
Christo you have rode the gravy train long enough my friend .
Allow me to differ with the terminology. This swing looks like an inside (backswing) and on-plane (downswing) swing. Sorry.
Sure. It’s over the backswing plane
Check out moe Norman’s swing. He takes it inside. And downswings above the plane he took it back on- hence OTT over the top of the inside takeaway. It’s inside and over and out to strike the ball.
@@teddythodo3302 100%
OTT from the inside...agree?
Hips back, full shoulder turn
That's my key. I have to really open up on the backswing. That way I can go over without fear.
@@MiracleSwingExperience what does it mean to open up on the backswing?
@@swisstrader have your back facing the target
@@MiracleSwingExperience tough for me in that when I do back to the target, I lose sight of the ball
@@swisstrader your not turning then your are swaying off the ball of you are losing sight
Go out for u.s open great swing
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A good illustration here from my other favorite channel of why the under the plane loop they promote today just isn't natural.
Your Swing now reminds of the days you worked with Martin Ayers 🤔
OMG! That's interesting you say that. I had much more downward force with my clubs back then! Great observation.
Be good to have a launch monitor
Hi Christo. You do know the PGA won’t be happy with you. Don’t you?
Enjoy reading all the wonderful accolades you are receiving. You deserve all of them, ❤️😃⛳️👍🥂Cheers
Gracias my amigo 🙏🏻
your driver set-up looks like “single plane” ( correct me , if i’m wrong ).
I've hit some skanky shots that have gone in my hands, up my arms, and into my heart. I bet Mr. Hogan never felt those. :)
Christo, I’m 65 years old, with a 72 swing speed, tweaking my swing for over a year, and have gotten worse, I got re-fitted, so I’m good with my clubs, next I’m set to have a swing analysis, next week, then I seen this video, will OTT help me? thank you.
Your speed drill is way more over the top than your actual swing.
Can’t see an over the top swing. OTT results in an out to in swing; Christo’s is NOT out to in but IN TO OUT. Very nice swing, but, not OTT.
agreed, He's trying to put a 'revolutionary' spin on the golf swing which everything has been done since the inception of the game. This channel has turned into a giant advert. Not knocking his hustle, though, he has some good ideas.
This makes no sense to me. So if feeling OTT is on plane, how would you actually swing OTT?
Christo your sound recrption isn't high enough. Sort it now and you will have more subscribers.
Sorry I can't tell much of a difference between your old swing and your ott swing. Very frustrating for me. Your swing looks great either way. Glad for you! I'm 79 and my body is failing.
This sounds like John Wright’s “Hale Irwin” move from a few years ago. He used it to square his path. Let’s see your numbers on FlightScope. I’d bet your path has become neutral.
It is not over the top, your back shoulder is staying in it's not flying out.
How about "the swing swung round the swirled."
"shot heard round the world" is the Sarazen headline.
You're too creative for that.
Ooh, you’re right. I forgot about that. Probably why it snuck into my head!
But your club head doesn't move over the top
Trace the path or your hands. See when they start going left.
This isn't an OTT swing. I don't get it.
No explanations
Band aid. Swinging left is nothing new it puts your low point further forward. The real secret id how to use youf body as a gyroscope to go low left
I'm not seeing it. That doesn't look over the top.