Very interesting project! This engine is a later one, made by Ducati. The right crank leads to an elder engine made by Siata. If a Ducati engine is installed, then the crank must also show the Siata / Ducati brand. Some parts don't even belong on this chassis. Manuals are available already for free. The front hub have to be a "Rolex" too. [I can offer one...] 😃
Does it say "Rolex" in a cursive script on the rear hub ? .. also wondering if the rear fender is high to allow for suspension travel.. Thank you for sharing this journey !
Yes, the rear hub is a Rolex. Do you know anything about these? The operating mechanism for the gears is not in a very good shape and parts are missing. So if you can help us out in any way... let me know. The rear mudguard travels with the suspended wheel so there's no need for it being so high around the rear wheel.
I inherited a ducacti siatd 65cc with three speed in the engine and three speeds in the back wheel and a racing frame my father lived those bikes my mother has the rest of them in Italy
Always good that Cucciolo's are receiving attention.... However, a few things plainly wrong. Siata designed the T1 Cucciolo, not Ducati. Aldo Leoni is credited. Farinelli had nothing to do with it other than being either Commercial Manager and/or Siata's Lawyer. Siata started design in 1943 with a 2-stroke, binned the idea and went for a 4-stroke, reputedly producing up to 10 prototypes. One went on to be the T1-a 45' and was redesigned as the T1-a 46' before being retooled again into the T1-b, made by Siata, and the T1D, licenced to Ducati. Before that, another prototype was first given to Cansa with the vertically split case; the Cansa SC (Now the T2-SC). This pre-dated Ducati by 15 to 18 months. Cansa was forcibly closed, Ducati bought up it's stock, tooling and moulds. It used these to produce its T2, the T2-V1 "Primo". Ducati designed nothing, just a few casting details. Siata certainly did not take the Cucciolo from Ducati as the presenter attests - that is plainly a wrong assertion and there is a lot of garbled information on Cucciolo's. It was certainly not the case that Siata "Could not cope"; the built a new factory in 1946 and spent two years designing what was a commercial success. Lastly, 'Operation Pancake', the 8th Airforce bombing did not destroy production. You can see from the photograph it plainly did not "destroy" Borgo Pegnale. That factory was producing optical components. Ducati had eleven other production facilities that were untouched. A lot of Ducati's history is hideously distorted and cherry-piked. It needs a lot of disentangling but the Museum and Institute have no intention of exposing what the real history is. The engine mounted is a T2-V1/2h "Hybrid"; it has a V1 case but with parallel rockers. It was from a period of transition between the single cam V1's and the twin cam V2's; >16.961 made, all in 1949. Serial number in the early 200,000's. The crank arm is from a T1-b and repaired. The frame is identifiable; I've catalogued about 400 of them, just don't have time here to specifically identify.
Thanks for your comment. I don't believe I ever claimed that the Cucciolo design was done by Ducati. Instead, we are very much in agreement that the design was by Siata. I hope that comes accross in the video well. You are obviously very knowledgable when it comes to these Cucciolo bikes and engines. We would very much like to hear more about what you can tell us about our project. Can you please e-mail us at info@backtoclassics.nl? We are very much looking forward to our conversation!
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Hallo Mannen, goed en compleet verhaal, leuk. Ik ga jullie volgen. Lang leve de Old Day's
thats cool. love to get my hands on one. love your content and look forward always
hi i have most of a motor for one of these loverly little bikes i will be watching this project with interest thanks
Very interesting project! This engine is a later one, made by Ducati. The right crank leads to an elder engine made by Siata. If a Ducati engine is installed, then the crank must also show the Siata / Ducati brand. Some parts don't even belong on this chassis. Manuals are available already for free. The front hub have to be a "Rolex" too. [I can offer one...] 😃
Fabulous! Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Look forward to seeing this project progressing.
Very interresting tnx. alot! 👍🏻
Does it say "Rolex" in a cursive script on the rear hub ?
.. also wondering if the rear fender is high to allow for suspension travel..
Thank you for sharing this journey !
Yes, the rear hub is a Rolex. Do you know anything about these? The operating mechanism for the gears is not in a very good shape and parts are missing. So if you can help us out in any way... let me know.
The rear mudguard travels with the suspended wheel so there's no need for it being so high around the rear wheel.
I inherited a ducacti siatd 65cc with three speed in the engine and three speeds in the back wheel and a racing frame my father lived those bikes my mother has the rest of them in Italy
Great story, thanks for sharing!
Always good that Cucciolo's are receiving attention.... However, a few things plainly wrong. Siata designed the T1 Cucciolo, not Ducati. Aldo Leoni is credited. Farinelli had nothing to do with it other than being either Commercial Manager and/or Siata's Lawyer. Siata started design in 1943 with a 2-stroke, binned the idea and went for a 4-stroke, reputedly producing up to 10 prototypes. One went on to be the T1-a 45' and was redesigned as the T1-a 46' before being retooled again into the T1-b, made by Siata, and the T1D, licenced to Ducati. Before that, another prototype was first given to Cansa with the vertically split case; the Cansa SC (Now the T2-SC). This pre-dated Ducati by 15 to 18 months. Cansa was forcibly closed, Ducati bought up it's stock, tooling and moulds. It used these to produce its T2, the T2-V1 "Primo". Ducati designed nothing, just a few casting details. Siata certainly did not take the Cucciolo from Ducati as the presenter attests - that is plainly a wrong assertion and there is a lot of garbled information on Cucciolo's. It was certainly not the case that Siata "Could not cope"; the built a new factory in 1946 and spent two years designing what was a commercial success. Lastly, 'Operation Pancake', the 8th Airforce bombing did not destroy production. You can see from the photograph it plainly did not "destroy" Borgo Pegnale. That factory was producing optical components. Ducati had eleven other production facilities that were untouched. A lot of Ducati's history is hideously distorted and cherry-piked. It needs a lot of disentangling but the Museum and Institute have no intention of exposing what the real history is. The engine mounted is a T2-V1/2h "Hybrid"; it has a V1 case but with parallel rockers. It was from a period of transition between the single cam V1's and the twin cam V2's; >16.961 made, all in 1949. Serial number in the early 200,000's. The crank arm is from a T1-b and repaired. The frame is identifiable; I've catalogued about 400 of them, just don't have time here to specifically identify.
Thanks for your comment. I don't believe I ever claimed that the Cucciolo design was done by Ducati. Instead, we are very much in agreement that the design was by Siata. I hope that comes accross in the video well.
You are obviously very knowledgable when it comes to these Cucciolo bikes and engines. We would very much like to hear more about what you can tell us about our project. Can you please e-mail us at info@backtoclassics.nl? We are very much looking forward to our conversation!