The Accidental Crusader State: Armenian Cilicia

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  • @levongeorge6677
    @levongeorge6677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    It is incredibly astonishing to learn each time about Armenians and their history. A nation that existed from prehistoric times and went through all possible hardships in their native lands ( existential fighting, genocide, territorial losses etc. ) is the only one that still stands as a survival nation in 21st century.
    Amazing video. Thanks 😊

    • @antibaathism
      @antibaathism 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Its not the only one but yes certainly armenians are such a resilient people!I wonder if any fantasy writers ever took inspiration from the history and civilization of armenia?

    • @MisterDanger01
      @MisterDanger01 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@antibaathism George RR martin based the character of Thoros of Myr on the Armenian prince Thoros the lion, due his bravery.

  • @OccasionalMaps
    @OccasionalMaps 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I’m glad the Armenian story didn’t end here, in 1199 the Georgians liberated Armenia and recaptured Ani, and defeated the eldiguzids, and welcomed the Armenians back to their land. Amazing video!

    • @mEtalec
      @mEtalec 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s not as if the Georgians acted entirely on their own under some altruistic guise. Many members of the Armenian high nobility were involved, and Armenians fought alongside the Georgians. When these two nations are united, they can achieve remarkable things. Unfortunately, their enemies are adept at preventing such unity and even attempting to turn them against each other.

    • @georgehagop6718
      @georgehagop6718 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your reply saying that Georgians recaptured the city of Ani later. This is true. However, it was too late since the capital city of Ani was completely destroyed at this time. Furthermore, most Armenians (who were left after the massacres) had left the city to settle in Western Armenia , Cilicia. Armenians and Georgians have many similar habits and characteristics that are imbedded in their minds which block cooperation and unity. Some of these include, ignorance, selfishness, lack of cooperation, jealousy, personal greed, respect and many other vices. It is exactly for the above reasons that we are marginal developing countries to the present. GOD help us.

    • @gmfrunzik
      @gmfrunzik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ani was already destroyed

  • @emmaeskandari3922
    @emmaeskandari3922 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Amazing Armenia. Thanks for video.

  • @kristaporkhach
    @kristaporkhach 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wanted to add that Armenian Cilicia didn’t end here, Leo had other sons, Toros reestablished the principality in 1145 and his nephew Leo II who became prince in 1187 would be crowned King in 1189. The kingdom would last until 1375 when the Mamluks of Egypt took Sis. As another commenter here said, the Catholicos of Cilicia would remain in Sis until 1921 when the Catholicos relocated to Syria and in 1929 settled in Antelias (north of Beirut) at a US-run Armenian orphanage and has remained in Antelias since then. We Cilician Armenians are still here and proud!

  • @atcamci
    @atcamci 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Turk from Adana here. Thank you very much for this comprehensive work shedding light on the Armenian side of the Cilician history. It is fascinating that the Armenians stood up even against the Byzantines and captured the shore line at their expense.
    Apparently the land of Cilicia often had an exceptional level of autonomy compared to the rest of Anatolia even when the region was ruled by great empires. Similarly, the Turkish beylik of Ramazanoglu ruled Cilicia for two and a half centuries, and managed to preserve its autonomy until the early 17th century. It was the last Anatolian state to eventually join the Ottoman Empire.

  • @Lafuerza_V
    @Lafuerza_V 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Love Armenian history, subscribed

  • @theMOCmaster
    @theMOCmaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Worth mentioning that there is still an Armenian Cilician Church denomination that is the remnant of this kingdom

    • @MiqoARMO
      @MiqoARMO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah the Church is in Lebanon 🇱🇧 Aram is Catholicoses name that is onather story on its own

    • @araxykherlopian1573
      @araxykherlopian1573 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since there was no royalties or governments in existence - also the Church would represent the ethnic identity as the protector - the Church was the official representative and protector . At least the Cilician church remained free when the Etchmiadzin was under Soviet rule . After the Genocide the Armenians were placed in the Middle East where there is historical continuity and the governments recognized the Armenian Church as the official representative of the community .

  • @armenpoghosyan4998
    @armenpoghosyan4998 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Wonderful job as always! I hope you continue the Armenian Cilicia series.

  • @llysHomeCooking
    @llysHomeCooking 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Amazing video! Sadly Turks in Adana are never taught about this part of the history of the region! It is as if it never happened even though Armenian castle dot the landscape

    • @BlazingFlame69
      @BlazingFlame69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Propably because the Turkish government wants you to think these lands were never Armenian

    • @koksalceylan9032
      @koksalceylan9032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Its not correct.we Turks in Turkey know very well the history of the Roman, Armenian past in Anatolia and see it as part of own history of Turkey and are proud of it too. The Glorieus Armenian and Roman and Seljuck and Ottoman times are part Ower glorious history

    • @alexander63736
      @alexander63736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know about it lol, tf

    • @vanS808
      @vanS808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I travelled through Turkey 10 years ago, in Kars all Armenian historical sites have a Turkish flag mounted nearby, and on the writings of the site not a SINGLE WORD is written about Armenians. The most common explanation we got was " These lands were occuppied by many people " The denial of the Armenian history in the region is astounding .

  • @mhermovsisyan515
    @mhermovsisyan515 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The quality of these videos is exceptional.

  • @asadalmahrezi9695
    @asadalmahrezi9695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Very useful information. I have Armenian Cilician DNA. ☺

    • @lawlessfrontiercam
      @lawlessfrontiercam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice, my mothers side are from a bit north, Tigranocerta & Sasson.

  • @jackstepanian-l2m
    @jackstepanian-l2m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brilliant and well researched- keep up the great work- need more of same

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jackstepanian-l2m thank you, come back in an hour for another video!

  • @GhostCountries
    @GhostCountries 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Hey, I’m a bit late here, but really liked the video man! It seems to be doing well too and, like you said, Armenian history is just so fascinating - there’s plenty of different chapters to explore. I don’t know why, but after Nagorno-Karabakh, I find myself wanting to know more the Defense of Van in 1915 and Nakhchivan.

  • @perhistoria7546
    @perhistoria7546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really enjoy videos on Armenian history! Thanks.

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is the only deep dive into this region in this time period I have ever seen and it's an excellent one at that.
    Kudos my friend for a job well done!

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks! Really appreciate that!

    • @lourias
      @lourias 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I LOVE REAL voices!

  • @gar0188
    @gar0188 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Kilikia(Cilicia) has always been a part of historic Armenia and has been continuously inhabited by Armenians for thousands of years.

  • @nickmat994
    @nickmat994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    It's crazy to me how these Armenian kings don't hold these meetings in their own court. "Yeah sure I'll meet you where my forces and I are completely surrounded and will likely be taken prisoner." I can understand leading from the front, but after what happened to Gagik II, how does Leo fall for the same trap, TWICE.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I know right, trustworthy to fault I suppose😂

    • @levongevorgyan6789
      @levongevorgyan6789 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It happened before Gagik too. Arshak II of the Arascida went to a meeting with the Persian King, he was captured and his right hand man, Vasak Mamikonian was flayed alive.

    • @Lafuerza_V
      @Lafuerza_V 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I feel like throughout Armenian history there is always a blind spot for betrayal. They are smart, adaptable and financially successful, but naive to treachery. Not meant to be a shot at Armenians, just an observation.

    • @CrusaderMapper
      @CrusaderMapper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The Armenians actually did that, with Bohemond III in 1194. They called him to meet with them but instead imprisoned him; he was eventually freed in 1195 after negotiations.

    • @TigranHakobyan-jh8ue
      @TigranHakobyan-jh8ue 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thats just our nature. I even notice it in my dad and myself. We trust way too easily and I am saying that as an Armenian

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
    @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Your channel is very underated. Awesome stuff.

  • @jakecraftlawrance7206
    @jakecraftlawrance7206 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for the video. It was a good review with some new knowledge.

  • @alexhatfield4448
    @alexhatfield4448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love it dude, keep the videos coming! I love these obscure history topics.

  • @yunusakyuz5372
    @yunusakyuz5372 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for your efforts to generate this video first of all but i wish you could have spoken in British English Accent. It would really be great!

  • @vagramvardanyan9407
    @vagramvardanyan9407 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great video and one of the best if not the best Ive seen on Cilician Armenia, every time I watch a video of Stoic historian I always learn a great deal on a subject I thought I knew almost everything about, great story teller, he really breaks down what was going on at the time in great detail.
    Stoic Historian is the Documentarian of Documentarians, would have been a King of Kings in those days : )
    շատ Մերսի

  • @LordJordanXVII
    @LordJordanXVII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Top notch!

  • @djvel1587
    @djvel1587 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Fantastic video as always

  • @messeuravril540
    @messeuravril540 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    5:53 It was Romanos Diogenes, not Doukas. The Doukids brought Romanos into power then betrayed and killed him after Manzikert.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apologies, got my romanos’s mixed up there

  • @Namesaredangerous
    @Namesaredangerous 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video so far! Looking forward to watching your backlog and seeing future content.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear!!

    • @Khachakirner1992
      @Khachakirner1992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StoicHistorian A History of the Crusades by Steven Runciman - Tells all about the Armenian Cilicia and its roll during the history of the Crusaders en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_Crusades

  • @nickmat994
    @nickmat994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Amazing video. It filled a lot of the gaps I had for this period. Do you recommend any books you've found in your studies so I can read more about this topic?

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “Armenian Cilicia” is the main one I’m using

  • @Cheesymomo
    @Cheesymomo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Now we fast-forward today where the world allowed the total erasure of Armenian culture in Azeri occupied lands.

    • @Octavionjarqaviousriddles
      @Octavionjarqaviousriddles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We fast forward to 🇹🇷 Talaat Niggol Pashayan 🇹🇷 Armenia- 1st CIA Country.. We used to be Christians. Talaat Mustafa Pashayan "Give the Sultan what they want, or they won't like us anymore."
      We went from General Antranik Ozanian 🇦🇲✝️🇦🇲 to Secretary Anthony Blinking 🇪🇺🤡🇺🇲 in one generation. Armenia, the next Ukraine led by Talaat Pashayan.

  • @mrXOwarrior
    @mrXOwarrior 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is great. I would love to see the rest of the Lesser Armenian story.

  • @gambocco
    @gambocco 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:23 can you please write down the name? Thanks.

  • @TK-js7yz
    @TK-js7yz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is there a continuation planned? Cilician Armenia survived Byzantine treachery to exist until 1375...

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might take a few months to a year tho

  • @marquliss3216
    @marquliss3216 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Based Video, Keep it going

  • @GodsStrength617
    @GodsStrength617 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Bleeesss ya my akhperr 🙌🏻

  • @Riftrender
    @Riftrender 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    No one has suffered as badly as the Jews and Armenians.

    • @patrioticamerican1484
      @patrioticamerican1484 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jews had it coming

    • @talfriedman1265
      @talfriedman1265 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the jews suffered more but it's sad to see two groups that suffered hate each other

    • @BlazingFlame69
      @BlazingFlame69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think you can add a whole lot more to the list

    • @talfriedman1265
      @talfriedman1265 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      most of the ones you can add are realy small groups so it does't really matter@@BlazingFlame69

    • @MiqoARMO
      @MiqoARMO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@talfriedman1265 as Armenian I can add to the list Native Americans and and Black people , Irish, Greeks, Assyrians, Yezidis, Palestinians recent past as far as I leave I'm 35, but yeah I can agree we suffered a lot but we kinda dislike each other but in Armenian 3 nation names always fascinated me
      Հայ-Hay(Armenian)
      Հույն-Huyn (Greek)
      Հրեա-Hrea (Jew)
      There is connection in-between our names all of them starts with letter H only them is not a just coincidence

  • @mikepennington9057
    @mikepennington9057 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @Stoic Historian At Manzikert, it was Romanos Diogenes who was the emperor. And he was betrayed by the Doukas family, but that was because he'd married the Empress who was a Doukas widow and was a political rival to the Doukas family.

  • @ancientaramean6929
    @ancientaramean6929 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's crazy how the Levantine Arameans are never mentioned in those documentaries. They were an important group in the Kingdom of Cilicia as follow Christians.

  • @roubenamirbekian
    @roubenamirbekian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    After Rubenids came Herumids and Armenian Cilicia survives until 1380 or something like that. Do you have a story about that. Hetumids had alliance with Mongols

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah gonna do the whole story about cilician armenia

  • @koksalceylan9032
    @koksalceylan9032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Im Turkish Whit Armenian roots and 2de generation immigrant living in Belgium the country Were the currusaders came from.🎉😊

    • @aartur1254
      @aartur1254 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So does your Turkish part hate the Armenian part and vise versa lol?

    • @aramb5482
      @aramb5482 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      So you’re Armenian but you call yourself Turkish

  • @yamakarki6777
    @yamakarki6777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Tough bunch these Armenians

    • @lambert801
      @lambert801 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They're amazing people. Just the fact that they still exist (and exist as an independent nation and state) after all they went through, makes me think they're one of the toughest people on earth.

    • @Lev_cs
      @Lev_cs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lambert801 appreciate you, but we are being chipped away slowly by the hands of the turks and azeris.

    • @КристинаАйрапетян-р9л
      @КристинаАйрапетян-р9л 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@lambert801мы не сильные. Вера Христу ведёт нас по этой земле

    • @marquliss3216
      @marquliss3216 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What​@@КристинаАйрапетян-р9л

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    thanks

  • @MisterDanger01
    @MisterDanger01 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Cilician Armenia was the only christian safe haven for the crusaders from europe, even the Lusignans ruled as kings of cilicia and made Armenian kings to hold the title of Kings of Jerusalem, Lusignan were a french dynasty but trough intermarriage they became kings of cilicia and were regarded as Armenians, after the fall of cilicia many armenian nobles fled to byzantine where they became emperors, the entire Macedonian and Lekapenos dynasty of emperors were all of Armenian descent. Its sad to see this people of such heritage beeing downgraded to Kardashians,. Armenians are truly the masters of survival, the only country in the world that appeared with the same name on Roman maps and still is there after 2000 years with the same name.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MisterDanger01 great observations here!

  • @levongevorgyan6789
    @levongevorgyan6789 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I get that you ended the story at a point to continue it later, but you kind of give the wrong impression. The Byzantine occupation was brief, Thoros II, Leo’s third son was able to reconquer Cilicia and hold it seven years later.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah but he was imprisoned by the Byzantines for most of those 7 years. I just felt like Thoros II deserved his own video

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Right place at the right time.

  • @ARIES9327
    @ARIES9327 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Doing business with those westerners was a pure joy 😉 they were like Armenians very similar mentality

  • @cyclonemc7915
    @cyclonemc7915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

  • @emmaeskandari3922
    @emmaeskandari3922 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Մեր հայերին կենաց

  • @armanhayrapetyan3312
    @armanhayrapetyan3312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    🇦🇲✊️✌️

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    It's a beautiful place amazing castles I would love to visit it as a Christian land.

    • @aslanlovett4059
      @aslanlovett4059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Deus Vult

    • @Storm-1.
      @Storm-1. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pl dont as long the turks live there you do nothing else than Support muslim opression when you go there. The money that you spent will be better in christian hands.

    • @SultanBrokenClock
      @SultanBrokenClock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Christian land? That is the heart gods church and heaven

    • @Storm-1.
      @Storm-1. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SultanBrokenClock ruled by muslims.

    • @dennettshane1929
      @dennettshane1929 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very weird christo-fascist comment makes me want to block this channel for liking it

  • @TrajGreekFire
    @TrajGreekFire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    omg Thoros the Great

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys, remember that time we accidentally a country?

  • @invinciblereason2005
    @invinciblereason2005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hoping to get the continuation of the story of Cilician Armenia! and of course an important point is that the Byzantine Empire was Eastern Orthodox (dyophysite, Chalcedonian), while Armenian Apostolic Church (miaphysite/anti-Chalcedonian) is part of Oriental Orthodox churches and they have little to do each other. In fact, Byzantines considered Armenian Church as heretical. It's just that when people say Orthodox in everyday situations they automatically mean Eastern Orthodox but in reality there is no Christian denomination called Orthodox.

  • @jeffreyvenier3245
    @jeffreyvenier3245 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Were the Armenians the truth behind the Prester John stories

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I feel like it was either them or the Georgians, but they knew about them, so I think prester John was simply a made up story, unless you count Ethiopia

    • @iskanderaga-ali3353
      @iskanderaga-ali3353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were Christian communities in India since the 5th century. It's not impossible that some carved out a small polity that the Christians found out about through Indian ocean trade (and added all of the superficial details as a result)

  • @emmaeskandari3922
    @emmaeskandari3922 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kilikia not Silicia

  • @GRAYR-64
    @GRAYR-64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍✌️✌️✌️✌️🤝🇦🇲

  • @bryant-fr7sr
    @bryant-fr7sr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Megusta

  • @masterklass8654
    @masterklass8654 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s nice to have another perspective on this rather than the strictly Catholic interpretations.

  • @ZenionPlay
    @ZenionPlay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its pronounce Kilikia not Silisia.

    • @StoicHistorian
      @StoicHistorian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ive never heard of that, is that the armenian pronunciation?

    • @ZenionPlay
      @ZenionPlay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@StoicHistorian The confusion began when English speakers read Latin words in English. To be correct you have to create your own alphabet that’s why there are many misunderstandings in map reading or in names. Kilikia is well know region with it’s history. And yes it is pronounced the same way in Armenian, Greek, Latin and all other languages normal languages.

    • @duy-anhdang705
      @duy-anhdang705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Both pronunciations have merit. I personally lean more toward “Kee-lee-kee-ah” than “Se-lees-see-ah”, but we must also admit that the original Latin/Greek pronunciations do not dictate English pronunciation, or else we’d call the phonetically similar Sicily “See-kee-lee” instead of “Sis-sil-lee”.

    • @ZenionPlay
      @ZenionPlay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@duy-anhdang705 well if you have so many Italians in the USA that they can correct you well yes you will learn. But if there are not many people from that region you start thinking that it was written in your language not in Latin or other one. For example how you pronounce Regina?

    • @duy-anhdang705
      @duy-anhdang705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZenionPlay but that’s the thing, the Greeks who originally established colonies there called it Sikelia, but now Italians pronounce it like Si-chi-lya, it’s Si-si-ly in English because we learned that from the French, so who’s right? Who’s wrong?

  • @josh656
    @josh656 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The guy @ 2:30 has a Beetlejuice head.

  • @KNOAH0
    @KNOAH0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "accidental"a babota

  • @larrywave
    @larrywave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😄👍

  • @Hayk6666
    @Hayk6666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Armenians have exited there before any Muslim population and the pagan times

  • @arcanios806
    @arcanios806 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else here thanks to the new Age 2 DLC? ^^

  • @cold1895
    @cold1895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I take it these Cilecian Armenians are the ones the Turks genocided in WW1?

    • @jacobpyne5999
      @jacobpyne5999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      These Armenians got expelled/massacred in the 1890s during the hamidian massacres, the ones that survived fled or were killed during the 1910s

    • @lucyounjian5235
      @lucyounjian5235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not only the cilecian armenians, but also the ones living in six other native western armenian states which are part of eastern turkey now

    • @vanshires
      @vanshires 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even after WW1 through the 20's both the turks and azeris were chasing Armenians across the land committing atrocities.

  • @rod9829
    @rod9829 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Turks punching the air rn

  • @RealUvane
    @RealUvane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They were part of the kingdom of Iberia (Ebro) in the 3rd century bc.

  • @AlbertNadjaryan
    @AlbertNadjaryan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guys literally started the holy crusades

  • @Pipicrit
    @Pipicrit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    nice but you victimized islam throught the first part😐 the armenians left because the calliphate burned there capital to the ground.

  • @ilijas3041
    @ilijas3041 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Romanos Doukas? 😂

  • @az694
    @az694 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I followed in the footsteps of those Frankish Crusaders by marrying an Armenian beauty!
    Being blessed by her past, roots, Christian heritage and beauty (true that) and my Germanic Frisian Viking heritage!
    Mer Hayarin Kenats!

  • @sig7948
    @sig7948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    nothing is by accident. also armeninas lived as far west as cappadocia since before the assyrian networks that went to hatti. several armenian kingdoms, and their remnants existed west of the greater armenia. bunch of offshoots that made the main body weak, in the east there were 4 to 5 kingdoms liek arran syunik karabakh nachichivan only came from necessity but was always loyal to ani. Cappadocia edessa sophene Commagene. filled with armeninas, who all predate the persians and greeks western centric baby brain books pretend were always there ahahahahhaahhahahaha nice try though

  • @Khachakirner1992
    @Khachakirner1992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A History of the Crusades by Steven Runciman - Tells all about the Armenian Cilicia and its roll during the history of the Crusaders en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_Crusades

    • @Fourops
      @Fourops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but Runciman is a bit prejudiced

  • @Sargis-tq5hz
    @Sargis-tq5hz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Великим Армения легендарнии Киликия